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00:14.43theoddone33I like the new activity feed
00:14.51theoddone33kind of funny to see how you spent your time
00:14.54theoddone33possibly depressing as well
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00:19.43Xinhuanand there are no options to disable anything you don't want people to see
00:19.55Xinhuanin the feed
00:20.03theoddone33like how I don't want people to know that I spent all of yesterday finishing loremaster of outalnd?
00:20.20theoddone33they might think I have no life
00:22.54ShefkiSo I was looking at this one guys armmory and he spent all day yesterday questing in outland.  Who does that on a Saturday, he must have no life.
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00:26.36theoddone33exactly
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00:39.23BribriI think a bigger problem would be if a coworker/boss used it to see that you were playing wow when you were supposed to be working
00:39.49Bribripeople who play wow judging other people who play wow as not having a life is kind of pointless
00:41.31Ingelaif you have more achievmetn points then me you don't have any life
00:41.35Ingelaif you ahve lower you're a noob!
00:43.37koaschten_didnt they say they buffed 25 putricide because some spell was bugged at 10man level? for some reason i saw a raid one-shot it today without any practice o.O
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01:10.36Ancuany one here interested in talking about ancient calendars?
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01:54.58ShadowedAnyone an engineer?
01:57.47AeyanHave one
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01:58.28ShadowedAeyan: Do you know what the cast bar shows when you salvage from a mob corpse
01:58.31Shadowedto get engineering materials
01:58.42AeyanAh, no, not offhand
01:58.52AeyanCould check though
01:58.53orionshockisn't it the std cast bar?
01:59.19ShadowedAeyan: If you were really bored and wouldn't mind, otherwise don't worry about it sure I can find the name somewhere
01:59.27Shadowedit's just not any of the obvious ones like salvaging, tooling or engineering
01:59.29AeyanNah, my mage is in Borean
01:59.31AeyanSo it's fine
01:59.37Repo10nrt: 03Rabbit * r137 NRT.lua: Add Saurfang and Bronzebeard yells.
01:59.45AeyanJust been waiting on my raid to start
01:59.58ShadowedWould love you then :p
02:00.24Repo10incubator2: 03Morgalm * r4 .pkgmeta: Incubator2
02:00.26Repo-fix .pkgmeta LibBars-1.0 reference
02:01.06Ancurepo? what are you going on about? Are you a bot?
02:01.21orionshockAncu, u new here?
02:01.40orionshockRepo is the repository commit bot
02:01.44Ancuno, but this is the first time I have seen repo
02:01.58Ancurepository commit bot?
02:02.03pompyyes
02:02.18Ancuill tell him help
02:02.32AeyanShadowed: Shows 'Engineering'
02:02.33orionshockyes, when a project get's a commit on the repo it posts here
02:02.39ShadowedAeyan hrm, alright thanks
02:03.05Repo10broker_control: 03Morgalm 04v1.3 * r9 : Tagging as v1.3
02:03.29Aeyanhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=49383
02:03.30AeyanThat
02:03.32Ancuacctualy, yes I am new to this chat, I thought I was looking at wow uidev
02:04.10ShadowedOdd wonder why I couldn't search that out
02:04.12Shadowedthanks Aeyan
02:04.17AeyanNo problem
02:05.06Ancuso, what does repo do? help just gives me the command for help, and considering I thought help was the command, yeah....
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02:05.28orionshock@project Sick-of-clicking-dailies
02:05.29Repoorionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sick-of-clicking-dailies/. Sick Of Clicking Dailies. Game: WoW. OrionShock (Manager/Author), Cinedelle (Translator), cremor (Translator), Kepi (Translator). Updated: 17 hours ago. Tickets: 4/61
02:05.36orionshock@describe sick-of-clicking-dailies
02:05.37Repoorionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sick-of-clicking-dailies/. Sick Of Clicking Dailies. AutoMagicly clicks though Daily Quests, and Turns them In.
02:06.19Ancuoh
02:06.32Ancuhow do you set it up with a new project?
02:06.39orionshockwww.wowace.com
02:06.49Ancuokay
02:07.05Ancusorry, Im still trying to plug my way throught he tutorial
02:07.31Ancufor wow ace I mean
02:10.54Repo10incubator2: 03Morgalm * r5 Core.lua: Incubator2
02:10.56Repo-change tooltip display slightly
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02:17.58Repo10incubator2: 03Morgalm 04v1.0 * r6 : Tagging as v1.0
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02:35.37digmousemorning there
02:36.18AeyanMorning
02:36.28quiescensfeign death
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03:18.37digmouseneed a clarify: does Lana'thel add another 5 attempts to your total attempts?
03:18.58digmouselike 15 attempts total on professor and lanathel?
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03:28.40RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/incubator2/. Incubator2. Morgalm (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
03:28.43RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/deadly-assistant-mods/. Deadly Assistant mods. wolftus (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis.
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04:00.59orionshock@describe tekdebug
04:01.00Repoorionshock: No project found that matches 'tekdebug'
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04:48.47Repo10magic-targets: 03dhedbor * r96 MagicTargets.lua: Fixed typo.
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05:20.28orionshockanyone know if there are any unique events that fire at the end of an instance to indicate it's complete?
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05:42.32Repo10tomquest2: 03kc305chen * r280 tomQuest2_Config/locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW.lua updated.
05:44.56Repo10tomquest2: 03kc305chen * r281 locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW.lua updated.
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06:02.07Mikkorionshock: well, ones you enter through the LFG tool at least have a completion event
06:02.20Mikksince blizzard's UI picks up on it and displays the completion banner
06:02.35Mikki'm unsure if that happens with ones you just run into though?
06:04.44SilowyiYou could probably table the last bosses and look for a kill event on it
06:05.02Silowyisort of vulgar, but it would work.
06:07.54orionshockMikk, that's what im currently doing
06:08.08orionshockSilowyi, true, how most addons do it, but was hoping to avoid it
06:08.45Mikkyeah it should totally be avoidable these days
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06:09.15Mikkwouldn't surprise me if you get to see the completion event even if you arent in range for the kill
06:09.22Mikkso it'd arguably be a lot better
06:09.36orionshockMikk, sadly that only works for the random dungeon only
06:09.41Mikkawww
06:10.04MikkONLY random, or ones you enter using lfg tool?
06:10.07orionshockwalkin or specific que dosn't give badges
06:10.42Mikktrue
06:10.47Mikkwas just wondering if you got a completion event anyway
06:11.02orionshocknope... i tried and checked
06:11.11Mikkmeh
06:11.22Mikkand i guess you want it to work for nonheroics also
06:11.29Mikkso can't just look for killcounts in your saved instances
06:11.39orionshocktrue
06:12.21orionshockkill count to saved instance would still require a lookup table, granted it would be static
06:12.45MikkWhy?
06:13.09MikkWouldn't the zone name always match an entry in the LFG tool table, regardless of locale?
06:13.30orionshockwell, first would have to translate the zone to non-locale, then would have to match the non-locale to the stat ID to look up
06:13.30MikkAnd blizzard's UI seems to know how many bosses there are in every instance
06:13.44orionshockMikk, how does bilzzards ui know?
06:13.47Mikkidk? =)
06:13.57ShefkiProbably gets told when it shows that display.
06:13.59MikkCan't say I've read their code for this
06:14.05MikkBut if they can get to it
06:14.09orionshockhumm, none of the screens i've seen show how many bosses are left
06:14.11MikkChances are you can too
06:14.16Mikkuhh yes they do
06:14.30orionshockwhere?
06:14.32Mikkthey even list which ones are alive
06:14.38Shefkiorionshock: The accept screen for LFG does and so does the get saved confirmation dialog.
06:14.48Mikkthe "enter dungeon" dialog shows "Bosses killed: 1/3"
06:14.50Mikkand if you mouseover it
06:14.51ShefkiAnd if you mouseover it tells you which ones are alived.
06:14.52Mikkyou get names and status
06:15.03orionshocki think that's all on demand
06:15.31ShefkiThat would be my guess as well.
06:15.32MikkI'm pretty damn sure this info is queriable
06:15.41MikkSo yes on-demand
06:15.47MikkAnd you were looking for an event
06:15.57orionshockand either nil or unreliable otherwise
06:16.04MikkHey can we turn the question around for a bit?
06:16.06MikkWhat are you doing?
06:16.32orionshock@describe dungeonspeedrunner
06:16.33Repoorionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. Timer for Random PuG Dungeons Runs
06:17.15Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r233 modules (4 files in 1 directory): Added requested procs.
06:19.32Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.1-6-g0cd4593 modules/movers.lua: [+2 commits]
06:19.33Repo0cd4593: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/shadowed-unit-frames/mainline
06:19.34Repo0046ead: Fixed config mode error when using a custom tag that calls for a specific aura not an index
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06:21.30Mikkorionshock: well, if i wrote that for my own entertainment, i'd only be arsed to track heroics
06:21.36Mikkwhich means saves
06:21.50Mikkwhich means you could trigger off of leaving combat, prolly start a short timer, and poll the killcounts
06:22.14Mikkbut yeah if you want to track whatever, i highly suspect you will need a last boss unitguid table
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06:26.50Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 041.6.9 * r234 : Proculas 1.6.9
06:26.52Repo- More Procs.
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06:32.17asmodairofl, you can stealth underwater, it's amazing :D
06:36.53asmodaiAlso funny to see how mobs, when you are standing too close together, will now back off a bit before resuming fighting.
06:37.01asmodaitanks must be happy
06:41.51Repo10tomquest2: 03kc305chen * r282 tomQuest2_Config/locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW.lua updated.
06:44.05asmodaigrrrr, I don't mind dying, I do mind dying because some mob flees through the bloody wall and calls in two companions and they all come back THROUGH the wall
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06:48.48asmodaiheh
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07:00.04orionshockMikk, GetLFGProposal() gives dead/total  & GetLFGProposalEncounter(i) gives name, status ; but both are on demand only and nil otherwise
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07:14.52orionshock--The more icons with absolute sizes in a certain fontstring, the higher up the text goes. This offsets it to make the icons be in line with the text.
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08:11.08Mikkorionshock: ummm i could have sworn i could access that info elsewhere
08:11.51orionshockthere was an addon that keeps track of it independently, but it keeps a list manually, dosn't pull it out of the API
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08:13.39Repo10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r110 / (4 files in 1 directory): first version
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08:32.18orionshockfrack
08:32.26orionshockthis is going to take some work..
08:32.29quiescenso.o
08:32.58orionshocki find myself needing to complile a list of instance id's (internal to blizzard) and a mapping to the last boss that dies
08:33.05orionshock>.>
08:33.13quiescens1+1=3
08:33.22orionshock1-1 = 4 ?
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08:43.42asmodaiI'm partial to 2,75
08:44.35winkillerorionshock: for?
08:45.19Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.5-12-g5d5919f / (12 files in 3 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated)
08:45.21Repo5d5919f: Fixed leaked global
08:45.22Repo02855c3: Added advanced search to the database list, works the same as who: n-"Foo" finds everyone with foo in their name, n-"foo" c-"Druid" 30-60 will find all people matching foo who are druids and between level 30 - 60
08:45.22Repoa0daa52: Raid and party notes have been merged into the same file for sanity, you will need to restart your game to use them again
08:45.24Repoa7cbc57: Fixed inspection color codes being broken occasionally
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08:50.19asmodaiShadowed++
08:50.39Shadowedtoo hard to add stupid options
08:50.47Shadowedeasier to just write a query builder
08:53.10orionshockwinkiller, for my addon
08:53.17orionshock@describe DungeonSpeedRunner
08:53.20Repoorionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. Timer for Random PuG Dungeons Runs
08:54.04winkillerty :)
08:59.19Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 072.0 * r235 / (3 files in 2 directories): Some more work on 2.0
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09:01.56asmodairofl
09:01.57asmodaihttp://tweakers.net/ext/i/imagenormal/1263741601.gif
09:05.24orionshockhehe... im gonna go have a death stick then re think some of this....
09:11.18orionshockasmodai, Fuck Off and Die In a Fire ?
09:11.22orionshockis that what it means?
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09:15.12asmodaiorionshock: yea
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09:20.13Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r316 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update deDE. Thanks Vilogity.
09:20.14RepoFixes Ticket 73.
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09:48.41Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.5-13-g842ebd0 modules/sync.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed an error when requesting main data without any main data set
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10:05.45asmodaiShadowed: is EG in general where you want it to be and needs just finetuning or is there still a large part missing?
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10:27.32Repo10links: 03jerry * r111 Links.lua:
10:27.34RepoUse the OnTooltipSet/Cleared handler from ItemRefTooltip. This should make most addons compatible with Links without change or special support.
10:27.35RepoDeprecate RegisterHookFrame() API as a result.
10:37.38Shadowedasmodai: It's pretty much where I want it to be
10:38.18Repo10links: 03jerry * r112 Links.lua: Remove tooltip auto-anchoring code. It was fun but useless.
10:38.37ShadowedI'd like to implement http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/tickets/37-tabs-priority-tracking/ into core. I'm probably going to write some sort of separate plugin to make it faster for people to form raids and use EG
10:38.55Shadowedbut overall, v1.5 got the last big feature which was the code for syncing user or note database
10:39.15ShadowedSome small things like chat output etc, but overall nothing big that I can think of
10:39.20asmodaiShadowed: It sure seemed to stabilize quickly over the past few weeks yea
10:39.26asmodaiWhich is quite nice :)
10:39.36ShadowedIt helps when you don't have class and can dump hours into code
10:39.54asmodaimmm, interesting ticket
10:40.15ShadowedIt's a fairly simple idea, it'll probably be split into 4 rows
10:40.24ShadowedTanks, Healers, Physical DPS, Caster DPS
10:40.30asmodaiShadowed: btw, when does it trigger the pop up for rating? Only when all bosses got killed?
10:40.41Shadowedwhen the LFD event fires
10:40.42asmodaiYeah, spare time helps a lot.
10:40.50Shadowedso the thing that pops up saying dungeon complete
10:41.24asmodaiMmm, wonder why it didn't trigger for this random instance. Feck, what's the name with Moorabi in it? Drak'tar?
10:41.32ShadowedGun'Drak
10:41.47ShadowedIf you're using the alpha you didn't restart
10:43.45Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r66 / (2 files in 1 directory): correct open options
10:43.57asmodaiShadowed: Sorry, restart what specifically?
10:45.05Shadowedthe game
10:46.32asmodaiShadowed: I never update addons during playing. Only before or after.
10:47.08asmodaiBut it's not biggie. Was just curious what triggered it.
10:47.24Shadowedah hrm
10:47.41Shadowedwell the alpha I changed the files to merge the rating stuff into one layout so if you hadn't restarted that'd be why
10:47.57Shadowedalso I moved some configurations and reset the auto popup option
10:48.13Shadowedbut basically in a LFD dungeon, when the "Dungeon Complete" window pops, the rating window will pop unless you are in combat then it waits till you drop combat
10:48.27SunTsuShadowed: I had it not showing up, too, but only every now and then
10:48.31asmodaiOk, good to know.
10:48.52SunTsuCouldn't figure out what might be the reason
10:49.03Shadowedif you were in combat that might be why
10:49.05ShadowedI never really tested it
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10:58.43asmodaiOh noes, we're alpha testing ;)
10:59.22Repo10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r111 / (3 files in 1 directory): first version
11:01.02profalbert@project splitter
11:01.03Repoprofalbert: http://www.wowace.com/addons/splitter/. Splitter. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. Grayal (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 hours ago
11:02.14winkillerloot rools? :P
11:02.30Fiskeri.e. rules
11:02.34Fiskerl2l
11:03.30winkilleror rolls!
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11:05.54Fiskernot if he's doing it right winkiller
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11:15.39Fiskerah great
11:15.42Fiskershould've seen that coming
11:15.59Fiskerwas in a pug forge of souls
11:16.11Fiskerat the end boss needle-encrusted scorpion dropped
11:16.16Fiskerand everyone including the healer rolled on it
11:16.28Fiskerturns out the other 4 was from the same guild and server
11:16.30Fiskerfuckers
11:19.16asmodaiwtf does a healer need it for
11:19.59Fisker"turns out the other 4 was from the same guild and server"
11:20.05Fiskertake a guess asmodai
11:20.18asmodaiYeah, to maximize their chance of course.
11:20.23asmodaiBut still bullshit.
11:20.29Fiskeryes
11:20.30asmodaiMy guild wouldn't do shit like that.
11:20.35Fiskerwhich is why i put them on the ignore list
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11:20.55Fiskerwhich, btw, elitistgroup should have an option for
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11:23.26Repo10nrt: 03Rabbit * r138 NRT.lua:
11:23.28RepoAdd a boss whitelist, entries will always trigger a attendance popup when killed even if they are not the 'worldboss' unitclassification.
11:23.39asmodaiFisker: shitlisting an entire guild?
11:24.03Fiskerno
11:24.17Fiskerputting retards like that on ignore
11:24.38Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7044 Northrend/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update
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12:10.09orionshockquestion about git, how do u reset a perticular file back to it's previous rev?
12:10.30Brunersgit checkout file
12:11.35orionshockthanks
12:12.48Grumthat actualy puts it back to the last; not the previous one
12:12.55Repo10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.5-beta-3-g1c546e4 DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+2 commits]
12:12.57Repo1c546e4: clean up file
12:12.58Repo2673e50: add methods to manually start and end a run timer
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12:42.16Fiskeryeah you heard me Shadowed
12:42.29Fisker@project blessed
12:42.30RepoFisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 13 days ago
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12:47.21sb|workmeh, morning
12:47.38Fiskerno you're a morning sb|work
12:49.13sb|workhmmm why? :/
12:49.44Fiskerbecause i hate you
12:49.51sb|workokayx
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12:50.17orionshocksb|work, Fisker is prone to Random Acts of Violence and hate
12:50.23Fiskerno!
12:50.42sb|workwell i know
12:51.25Fiskeryou wouldn't
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13:20.06Torhal_Fisker: Your rage face is slipping.
13:23.12SunTsuTorhal: like in Face/off?
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13:24.57TorhalSunTsu: Far worse
13:30.22Fiskermy head has a headache Torhal
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13:36.41TorhalFisker: You must need a couple of shrinks.
13:39.40Fiskerbut why Torhal ?
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13:58.02Fisker~seen orionshock
13:58.03purlorionshock <n=orionsho@ip24-56-62-178.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 7m 46s ago, saying: 'sb|work, Fisker is prone to Random Acts of Violence and hate'.
14:02.44Torhal_Fisker: Are you inebriated by the exuberance of your own verbosity?
14:06.57Fiskeroh no you don't
14:07.14Torhal_Too late!
14:08.16KriLL3bah, my chat frames keep resetting themselves
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14:47.22asmodaiw00p
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15:29.48Repo10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r112 / (2 files in 1 directory): first version
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15:32.09SunTsuAh, Grayal still knows how to it
15:35.01asmodaifirst version? :)
15:36.21olafski@project splitter
15:36.22Repoolafski: http://www.wowace.com/addons/splitter/. Splitter. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. Grayal (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 hours ago
15:36.35olafskinice description too
15:37.59SunTsuasmodai: just look at all the other commit messages
15:38.36olafskiwtf :P
15:40.14Ackis@describe splitter
15:40.15RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/splitter/. Splitter. GetDKP Clone
15:40.21Ackiscool
15:40.25Ackisexperimental however
15:40.49asmodairofl
15:40.53asmodaioh wait
15:41.02asmodaihe has one 'created toc'
15:41.20SunTsuwooohoo
15:46.51GagorianIs there any AoE attacks unaffected by the "10 target damage cap"?
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15:47.27arkanesmob ones :(
15:48.01ckknightoh, how I wish there was a Mob ID to name mapping
15:48.23ckknightthat doesn't exist yet, does it?
15:48.30Grumckknight: dont make a lib for that :(
15:48.44ckknightwhy do you say that?
15:48.51ckknightwasn't planning to, anyway
15:49.14Grumplease dont .. some fool will include that for a moronic reason and bloat everyones wow with useless stuff ;(
15:49.41ckknightwe already have LibBabble-Boss-3.0
15:49.43GagorianThere's always the possibility of not using the addons that include stuff for moronic reasons :)
15:49.47ckknightthis'd really just be another way to index
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15:50.37AckisGrum: ARL has a huge localization file because of mob names :(
15:50.41Torhalckknight: That'd be a HUGE-ass lookup table.
15:50.42Fiskerhey i need some help with making libraries
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15:50.48Fiskerneed to make a library that maps mob ids to names
15:50.54GrumAckis: yeah ... i know ;(
15:50.57TorhalFisker: Don't make Ackis piss on you. He will, you know.
15:51.00ckknightTorhal: true. I mostly just need bosses, though
15:51.04pompyAckis: but only ones arl cares about
15:51.05GrumFisker: i love you
15:51.11Ackispompy: I know
15:51.13Torhal@project lib-bossid
15:51.14RepoTorhal: No project found that matches 'lib-bossid'
15:51.16Fiskeri would do it in a heartbeat Torhal
15:51.19ckknightnot the same thing, Torhal
15:51.22Fiskerbtw Ackis you like dlc?
15:51.30AckisFisker: DLC == teh devil
15:51.32ckknightI need the name of the boss from their ID
15:51.37FiskerAckis http://i50.tinypic.com/2cqmype.png
15:51.49AckisFisker: wtf?
15:52.05Fiskerindeed
15:52.10Fiskerhope it's just a test of some kind :o
15:52.15AckisDLC == good when it's free and released over the lifespan of a project, terrible when it's hella expensive and released all at once
15:52.37pompy@project libbossids-1-0
15:52.38Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbossids-1-0/. LibBossIDs-1.0. Game: WoW. Elsia (Manager/Author), yoshimo (Author). Updated: 3 days ago
15:52.50olafskiwhy.. it increases a game's lifespan
15:52.57olafskinothing wrong with paying for some extra content imo
15:53.10Ackisolafski: $40 for 30 hours of game time, versus $5 for 1 hour of game time...
15:53.53olafskiwell, that's wrong pricing at best
15:53.55olafskidoesn't make the entire concept bad :P
15:54.08olafskithe DLC for crackdown for instance was quite good
15:54.13olafskior Overlord
15:54.32olafskiI also like how they made the DLC for beautiful katamari into very small bits that were relatively cheap
15:54.33Ackisolafski: that was the latest DLC for Dragon Age
15:54.44olafskiah.. never played that so don't really care ,)
15:54.51Ackisthe DLC for oblivion makes me wish I knew it better before buying it :(
15:54.54olafskiapparently the DLC bits for fallout were quite good too
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15:55.10olafskiof course, if you buy an old game like BK now, the DLC is relatively expensive ;)
15:55.17Ackisyeah but to play the whole game for fallout 3 you would've paid $120ish total
15:55.43olafskisure, but apparently it's a good game and takes a while to finish ;)
15:55.54olafskidepending on the price for the AC2 DLC, I'll get that too
15:56.22AckisAC2 DLC is supposedly cheap, however it's content they removed from the original game to make into DLC
15:57.12olafskioh noes :P
15:57.29olafskiit's still extra gameplay
15:57.32olafskiso I wants it ;)
15:57.38XtekCoooooookies.
15:57.41XtekMornin'
16:05.33Repo10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r714 sRaidFrames.lua: Replace LibTalentQuery-1.0 with LibGroupTalents-1.0
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16:08.31Repo10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r715 sRaidFrames.lua: Show both spec and role
16:09.15ckknightuh-oh
16:09.19ckknightwho is tomsummer?
16:09.24ckknighthe just did a license violation
16:09.30ckknightnevcairiel: ping
16:09.34Ackisckknight: no
16:09.43ckknightno?
16:09.47Ackisckknight: tomsommer == saroz
16:09.54ckknightyea, but nevcairiel is on the project
16:10.08ckknightgonna PM him
16:10.18Ackissrf was his mod before the transition to the new site
16:10.28AckisI didn't know nevcairiel started working on it
16:10.47winkillerlicence violation how?
16:10.56ckknightLibGroupTalents-1.0 is GPLv3
16:11.05ckknightsRaidFrames is All Rights Reserved
16:11.23ckknightincompatible until LibGroupTalents-1.0 is removed or sRaidFrames is relicensed as GPLv3
16:13.14steevmmm
16:13.25steevno
16:13.34ckknightyes
16:14.20steevyou've got the legal department not me :)
16:14.55Repo10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r716 sRaidFrames.lua: Fix Typo
16:15.14ckknightdoes Saroz come on IRC?
16:15.16ckknight~seen Saroz
16:15.18purlsaroz <n=mail@0x5da37c9a.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 190d 42m 21s ago, saying: 'nevcairiel, you got any admin privs on curse?'.
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16:16.32Ingela190 d :D
16:19.46AckisI have 83 unscratched wow loot cards O_o
16:20.07Ingelagif!
16:20.11IngelaRogue - Ranged Damage:
16:20.12Ingelalol
16:20.24Ackis7 are the medium rare ones, the rest are the common ones... crazy
16:22.01Gnarfozckknight: do you have triggers set up for that kind of stuff, or did you just investigate based on Repo spam? :>
16:22.10ckknightI just noticed it.
16:22.15ckknightsince I was looking at the lib the other day
16:22.21ckknightand decided not to use it because of its license
16:22.27Gnarfozi see
16:22.31ckknighti.e. it disgusted me to put a library under that license
16:23.08arkanesall rights reserved is a pretty crazy license for an addon anyway
16:23.16ckknightI respectfully disagree
16:23.24arkanesits unusable
16:23.26ckknightI don't want assholes like WowMatrix distributing my addons
16:23.29arkanesthats fine
16:23.49ckknightif you place your addons on wowace or curseforge, you agree to license terms to allow curse to distribute them and for curse's users to use them
16:23.49arkanesbut if you go with unqualified all rights reserved even an end user can't use it
16:24.03arkanesah, so not *really* all rights reserved then
16:24.06ckknighton your removal from wowace or curseforge, curse agrees to remove your addons from curse.com
16:24.20ckknightbut any users who have downloaded cannot be sued by you under the agreement
16:24.27ckknightit's in the terms of service
16:24.34arkanesthats reasonable
16:24.41ckknightit's very nice to authors seeing as Kaelten and myself painstaking went over it
16:30.41Repo10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r717 sRaidFrames.toc: Add LibGroupTalents-1.0 to .toc
16:31.01steevheh
16:32.16steevjust sitting in dal and got a random tell "wanna join a 3v3 team?"
16:35.02pentium166do it, you can get gladiator before the season ends on tuesday/wednesday
16:35.17steevheh
16:35.33Ingelasteev, i run around with arena master title and every other day some dude asks me "wanna go glad we got imba setup just need priest"
16:35.49Ingelai should change that
16:35.50Ingela<.<
16:36.24steevblerg
16:36.27stolenlegacyposer titles are out
16:36.29steevi want to use my new pants
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16:36.46steevcan't until i get 2 more pieces of t10
16:36.57Ingela:(
16:37.03stolenlegacyIngela: i use Elder instead of TV on my druid
16:37.18stolenlegacysince it fits the calss
16:37.22stolenlegacys/calss/class/
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16:38.02olafskiI use loremaster because people seem to think it's weird to get that on a DK
16:38.31stolenlegacyi'm working on getting the undying on my DK
16:38.34stolenlegacyit's just pro for a tnak
16:38.35stolenlegacytank*
16:38.41Ingelayou will never get it
16:38.48stolenlegacypugs suck on dancing
16:38.50stolenlegacyso true :)
16:39.55stolenlegacyckknight: should i revert it back?
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16:42.55nevcairieljust lart zeksie to change the license :P
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16:44.17stolenlegacynevcairiel: do it yourself ;)
16:45.44ckknighthe made it GPLv3 for a reason
16:45.47ckknightand it is his right
16:46.12ckknightnevcairiel, stolenlegacy: there's a PM on wowace about it.
16:46.14nevcairielthe reason being that no-one is using it? :P
16:46.28Ingelawhat's wrong with asking him to reconsider
16:46.40ckknightI think it's worth asking
16:47.01ckknightbut that's up to Saroz, stolenlegacy, or nevcairiel
16:51.06yoshimoingela, im only displaying my titles for screenshots of bosskills , might save me a few seconds in pvp if the dont see the large title when im hiding in bushes ^^
16:53.10olafski:D
16:53.25olafskiI have titles turned off for dungeons and battleground/arena
16:53.30olafskiother people's titles that is
16:54.01olafskiguildnames too
16:59.54steevi have all of it turned off
16:59.58steevALL OF IT
17:00.13yoshimotheres nothing wrong with guildnames and names and titles for a bosskillphoto ;)
17:00.35olafskiI don't see the point of bosskillphoto's unless they're world first though
17:00.44GnarfozI only enable my name + other names for killshots
17:01.03olafskiwho is going to look at that except your own guild :<
17:01.25Gnarfozindeed, that's why the guild name is superfluous. :D
17:01.35Repo10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r718 sRaidFrames.lua: Add installed version to the top of the tooltip
17:01.37steevolafski: is it less of an achievement when your guild downs it for their first time?
17:01.49olafskiprobably not, but that was not the point
17:01.56olafskinobody will look at the picture if it's not a world first
17:02.01steevthe point is to commemorate the kill
17:02.20olafskiblegh.. if I was present at a first kill for a boss I'll probably remember it :P
17:02.22steevill be honest, i don't look at the world first screenshots
17:02.30steevi do look at our guilds though
17:03.02Ingelahaha i run with MY name on the screen all the time
17:03.13Ingelaand everyone elses too ofc lol
17:03.23steevIngela: your name on so you can remember it?
17:03.25Ingelayea
17:03.32Ingelayou never know if you get instant memory loss!
17:03.43steevwait, i lied
17:03.52steevi do show opposing faction
17:05.18olafskiI only look if they're by ensidia since a few of my ex guildies are in there
17:05.25olafskidon't really care about world firsts other than that
17:05.39steevpremo is on the server i play on :/
17:05.40olafskibut I sure as hell don't care about any kills made by guilds other than my own ,)
17:06.04steevcan always tell when there's a world first coming up cuz the server gets lagged as hell
17:06.32steevlag lag lag lag lag <WORLD FIRST 25 MAN TO PREMO> nolag
17:07.00steevactually
17:07.03steevlag lag lag lag lag <WORLD FIRST 25 MAN TO PREMO>x25 nolag
17:07.38steevthen there are the "Grats" in trade chat (wha!? they're still in the instance...)
17:07.55Gnarfozhm? it still bugs out and shows it 25 times?
17:08.13steevonce for each person who gets it
17:08.19Gnarfozit should only show once for each guild present
17:08.23Gnarfozlike the armory does it
17:08.39olafskireally, once for each?
17:08.42steevwell its been a while since server first
17:08.47steevs/server/world
17:08.51olafskia guild on my server got a realm first (duh :P) and I saw it like 12 times
17:09.01steevand actually - its both, you get server first and world first when premo does it
17:09.20olafskibut perhaps they went with another guild.. sucks to be the guild who has less members in that run then ,)
17:10.01Gnarfozsteev: uhm there are no world first messages
17:10.03Gnarfozonly realm first
17:10.26Gnarfoz(simply enough because US servers don't know about EU servers and TW and KR and so on)
17:10.39olafskimaybe they mean zone first then ,)
17:10.48steevGnarfoz: mmm, i thought it was both last time i saw it
17:11.00steevbut that was back with dedicated insanity or whatever
17:11.43GnarfozRealm First is the highest the game knows =)
17:12.16steevthen realm first
17:12.21Gnarfozhttps://eu.wowarmory.com/achievement-firsts.xml <
17:12.24steevweirdness
17:12.32steevlast night i was doing voa 10 on my spare dk
17:12.38Gnarfozlove the "Musikantenstadl" (1) and "Ensidia" (24) ones
17:12.42steevi was tanking
17:12.54steevdied, figured it was a wipe... released
17:13.01steevtried to run back in - encounter still in progress
17:13.05steev2 seconds later
17:13.18steevi get emblems of frost, and saved message... while standing outside
17:13.24Gnarfoznice
17:13.31nevcairieli had that too
17:13.47steevthen ran back in and was able to roll on the loot
17:13.52steevnot that anything DK dropped
17:13.52Ingelaso you got frost emblem in voa?!
17:14.09steevisn't that what koralon drops?
17:14.13Gnarfozno
17:14.15nevcairieldont think so
17:14.15Ingelano
17:14.20steevoh, well whatever
17:14.21Ingelahe only drops triuhmps
17:14.25nevcairielbut the point was getting the stuff while you're outside :P
17:14.26steevi got emblems while outside the instance
17:14.32steevstop focusing on the inconsequentials
17:14.36Ingelasorry =(
17:15.51steevso i'm thinking the sigil of the hanged man just wasn't worth it
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17:25.02Repo10big-wigs: 03onyxmaster * r7045 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU fix for Putricide: experiment_message, gasbomb_message
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17:25.54Repo10charscanner: 03kunda * r32 / (6 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
17:25.57Repoadded: Left click on 'Minimap-Button' or 'LDB Icon' shows now a menu with options for Single Scan, Group Scan (add), Group Scan (new) and Options.
17:25.58Reposlightly changed GUI Design:
17:25.59Repo- Unified textures.
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17:33.02Gnarfozsigh
17:33.06Gnarfozwhy is Jerry never on IRC :(
17:33.08Gnarfoz~seen jerry
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17:39.51Repo10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r113 AddonSpamFu.lua: Added:
17:39.53Repo- Party Ability Bars (what beautiful prefixes here..)
17:39.54Repo- Pet Shop
17:39.56Repo- MoveItMoveIt
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17:47.02pompyyoshimo: i know right.. i mean... local CommPrefix2 = "PAB935ndd8xid" -- Send GUID for syncing .... how ugly
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17:49.40yoshimovgcomms and classchannels are 2 other addons that are ugly as well ;)
17:50.27yoshimodgks killshot, might be a problem too, but i havent looked at it
18:01.56Repo10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r114 AddonSpamFu.lua: Added:
18:01.58Repo- epgp (dkp reloaded)
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18:06.22asmodaiKILL THEM ALL yoshimo
18:06.44yoshimoi only kill the alliance asmodai^^
18:07.47Grumbtw omg what does GhostRecon spamalot!
18:09.13yoshimogrum, wasnt ghostrecon another computer game?
18:09.24Grumalso an addon which tracks boss abilities
18:09.36asmodaiyoshimo: I am alliance >_<
18:10.03yoshimois it similiar to mobspells or something else?
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18:10.36Grumyoshimo: think so
18:11.45Ingelayoshimo, can you add http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fls.aspx
18:11.54Ingelaand also, what's up with the colors? all of a sudden everything is red now :(
18:12.04Ingelais it becasue i have SAM?
18:12.40yoshimogrum, according to ghost recons website you can turn it off
18:13.37yoshimoingela, ASFU and SAM are two seperate addons, although SAM has an outdated hardcopy of asfus prefix table ;)
18:13.58Ingelayeah i know i know but is taht why the addon spam listenings got all red?
18:14.10Ingelaor why is that =(
18:14.41yoshimoyou mean red in the tooltip or a red message in your chattabs?
18:15.12Grumyoshimo: yeah but it should be optin, not optout:(
18:15.33Ingelared on when i take mouse over addonspam on the broker thing, all listenings are red...
18:15.36yoshimoSAM prints a message for each new prefix it hasnt seen before, and i think that was a red text in you chat as well
18:15.49yoshimoingela, which revision of sam and asfu do you have?
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18:16.03Ingelalatest
18:16.04Ingelai have auto update
18:16.13Ingelawith alpha settings
18:17.02yoshimolet me activate sam again and check it, might be the ace3comm handling he added
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18:36.28[SW]Dodgesomeone knows how to set zomgbuff to selfbuff single blessing when not grouped?
18:37.03[SW]Dodgeaah ok found -.- /shy
18:38.10Gnarfozeeek
18:38.22GnarfozLinks, SickOfClickingDailies, ElitistGroup... all exploding all over the place :X
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18:54.52asmodaiwtf, a dart is a small hand thrown missile, right? wth is that heavy bronze dart a bloody javelin? :|
18:58.13GagorianIs it just me or is Star Trek Online pretty demanding on your system?
18:58.58GagorianAnd doesn't even look that good
19:02.05nevcairielasmodai: if its long and heavy enough, i guess it could qualify
19:02.29nevcairiela javelin is a thrown spear .. so i guess it works :d
19:04.30asmodainevcairiel: yeah, but a dart ain't so big? :|
19:06.28Adremmamaybe it's a tauren dart
19:08.04nevcairielheh
19:16.45KriLL3big enough to squish gnomes
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19:19.54asmodaiI wonder if it scales with the gnome wielding it XD
19:36.41KriLL3always fun to see gnomes wield tiny versions of huge weapons
19:36.50KriLL3pvp swords were especially fun
19:37.03KriLL3longer than the tauren holding it, but it's like a pocket knife for gnomes
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19:43.00yoshimomy tauren warrior has lots of gnomes under his hoofes
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20:14.20ckknight~seen elsia
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20:20.15Repo10dr-damage: 03zarquan * r1202 Data/Druid.lua: Fix Rejuvenation duration
20:20.42asmodaijeez
20:20.47asmodaiBattered Hilt going for 9k g
20:21.17Pneumatuswish they were that cheap on my server
20:22.33nicoli_sso fisker, hows yer nexus 1?
20:22.41Ingelawe just oneshotted putricide
20:22.45steevIngela: grats
20:22.48Ingelahttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/jzohy2v4ylclw0wy/sum/healingDone/
20:22.54Ingelawas probably to my awesome healing
20:23.09steev2 of our 10 man teams down him, the third one... (one i was in *sigh*) couldn't get past festergut
20:23.20Ingelait was 25man lolo
20:23.32steevand in 25, our best attempt has been 13% last week
20:23.51Pneumatusyoshimo: are you planning on doing a broker version of asfu?
20:23.56yoshimowell my guild has 1 try left now, and it looks bad...
20:24.06yoshimopneumatus, yes i do.
20:24.13steevsithel needs to kick it up a notch there Ingela
20:24.15Pneumatusfair enough, i wont bother then :P
20:24.25Pneumatusam trying to decide what i'm gonna code next :)
20:24.29Ingelasteev, :O
20:24.57PneumatusIngela: 5 healers :o
20:25.08steev...
20:25.14steevcobalt frag bomb?
20:25.18steevand 0 ghoul?
20:25.24steevwtf kinda unholy dk is this!?
20:25.54Pneumatushe's not using hand rockets either
20:26.02Pneumatuswhich you'd expect from a dps engineer
20:26.09Pneumatusunless he has hyperspeed i guess
20:26.16yoshimopneumatus, im sorry ;) But i cant think of anything useful that doesnt already exist
20:26.38Pneumatusa new raidtracer that isn't as poorly maintained as headcount
20:26.48Pneumatusbut thats gonna be a massive undertaking
20:28.19yoshimoindeed
20:28.20NeoTron_MagicDKP! :P
20:28.54Pneumatusi was toying with the idea of boss kill times for bigwigs, a-la-dbm
20:28.54yoshimopneumatus, there are a lot of dkp-addons and whatever lootsystem you can think of...
20:29.39Pneumatusbut i don't really know where to start re: hooking into bigwigs to use the boss event start/end notifications etc
20:30.00yoshimodoes simplebosswhisper still work?
20:30.55Pneumatusguess so, nothing on the curse comments etc to indicate it doesnt
20:32.32Pneumatusthe logic used in that is a bit simple to accurately record boss kill times though
20:32.38Pneumatusas it just waits for you to drop out of combat
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20:33.32NeoTron_clearly what WoW needs are more fart apps
20:33.44NeoTron_just look at the iphone
20:34.16genetik-yoshimo: i've heard from friends that sometimes it gives weird boss health numbers.. aside from that, i think it works fine
20:35.21Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r455 IceHUD.lua:
20:35.23Repo- close the config window if the user tries to open it when it's already open (http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/tickets/33-toggle-ice-hud-on-and-off/)
20:35.37Pneumatussimplebosswhisperer wont work on deathwhisper eiter
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20:35.44Pneumatusbecause she's elite not worldboss
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20:42.26sb|workblahblahblah
20:42.29sb|work2% wipe putricide sucks :?
20:42.33sb|work2 tries left
20:42.38Ingelaouch
20:42.40Ingela=(
20:43.23Jagobahknow what's even worse?
20:43.27Jagobah0% wipe
20:43.41Jagobahhe had 30k health at one point
20:43.48Jagobahthen healed whena tank died
20:43.53Megalonwhich, obivously is more then 0%
20:44.09Megalonthan
20:44.12Ingelanever seen that one before, OMG BOSS IS AT 1% EVERYONE DPS INCLUDING HEALERS
20:44.12yoshimogenetik- , i guess it might be maxhealth vs hp%tage
20:44.18genetik-possibly
20:45.00yoshimoPneumatus , people still run the old dbm3 module for arathi :D
20:45.09genetik-i've never looked at the sbw code
20:45.32yoshimome neither
20:46.55yoshimowill you be able to do the third wing of icc without killing putricide?
20:47.10pentium166yes
20:48.15yoshimoim disappointed
20:49.16NeoTron_much like Naxx... or the watchers
20:49.16yoshimoit would have been nice if you couldnt access wing 3 without putricidekill :D
20:49.18NeoTron_etc
20:50.42Repo10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.5-beta-5-g7452f26 DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+2 commits]
20:50.44Repo7452f26: move blocks around
20:50.45Repo8ac250f: only start timer when there is a full group.
20:53.38profalbert@project dungeonspeedrunner
20:53.40Repoprofalbert: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. Game: WoW. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Updated: 8 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1
20:54.27orionshock:)
20:54.27SroshWhich icons does BigWigs use for the penetrating cold debuff on Anub in ToC? They're always the same, right?
20:54.32Fiskerorionshockmen
20:54.47orionshockFisker, that was creepy for you to say
20:56.21Fiskerno
20:57.07yoshimoSrosh, http://www.wowace.com/addons/bigwigs-anubhealassist/
20:57.17SroshThanks!
20:57.23yoshimobut if the raidlead hasnt the addon, its more likely dbm
20:57.45yoshimodoes healbot show raidicons by default?
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21:01.16SroshNo idea, I set up my grid to show them.
21:02.22yoshimome too, but some people still use the other addon^^
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21:09.34sb|workIngela: we failed :/
21:09.42Ingelaawwhhh sb|work :(
21:09.53Ingelawhat tactic are you going
21:12.07sb|workuhm... tactic? :p
21:12.16Ingelayeah
21:12.24Ingelawe did the one where you just stand on the right side all the time
21:12.25sb|workkill oozes, dps putricide :p
21:12.29sb|workno, move
21:12.37Ingelatanking the boss near the green one
21:12.41sb|worki see
21:12.47Ingelahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbxmVMfkbfg
21:12.49Ingelayes you do!
21:12.53sb|workso green hits like instantly?
21:12.53sb|workmhh
21:13.44Ingelayes it does sometimes sb|work put doesn't matters, we get it to like 60-70% before it even moves and then it dies next time it's going for someone
21:13.52Ingelait's very easy healable damage
21:14.20sb|workhmm right, you can dps it when it spawns
21:14.22sb|workthats not that bad
21:14.42NeoTronIngela: the new and hot way of doing it. The amount of dps difference with that strategy is amazing
21:14.50Ingelayeap NeoTron
21:15.03NeoTronalso you don't slow the green one but use the energy for dps instead
21:15.08Ingelait's like dk tanking on second last boss in lolduar
21:15.18Ingeladon't evne need to move him!
21:15.39NeoTronit moves most of the effort from being raw dps output to being not standing in bouncy ooze explosions :P
21:15.49Ingelayeah exactly
21:15.59Ingelathey don't have to figure out that they have to run to some add
21:16.12Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1203 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Reverted changes in last commit
21:16.15Ingelathey can actually focus on dodging flying shit in the air now!
21:16.18NeoTronwhich still is not trivial. In certain angles it's hard to see them at all, or if you see them, hard to know if they are going at you, away from you or somewhere else
21:17.07Ingelawe where quite surprised how much dps you really got by it
21:17.08Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r267 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added missing optional dependencies
21:17.20NeoTronphase 3 is still rough. I think at 1% we had like mostly everyone alive and at his death at least 1/3 of the raid had died
21:17.22Ingelalike when we started we got it to 80% and the orange add spawned
21:17.32Vilkkuis there a autocomplete file for wow lua functions for notepad++?
21:17.41Ingelawe where like errrr we need to kite him 3-4 more times before he hits 80!
21:18.31NeoTronyeah. We now get him to 80% right about when the first gas ooze spawns
21:18.46Ingelayeh we where like "O.O"
21:18.57NeoTronnot sure what it was before though but.. more
21:19.47Repo10analyst: 03Bethink * r66 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added missing optional dependencies
21:21.10NeoTronhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/f477l46z2m5dxncz/sum/damageDone/?s=6073&e=6594
21:21.17NeoTroncheck the last few seconds there, all the bars.. :P
21:21.41NeoTronI died literally one second before putricide (aminai)
21:21.51NeoTronI hadn't hit the floor yet when he died!
21:24.01IngelaNeoTron, omg you have no disc priest
21:24.04Ingelaand 2 holy ones
21:24.17Ingelai don't get why all priests isn't fighting to be disc
21:24.22Ingelaclearly the best specc
21:24.47NivFreakwe have a disc priest
21:24.51NivFreakhe was just holy for that fight
21:24.59Ingelalol is he stupid :D
21:25.10NivFreakit was against his will
21:25.13NivFreakand explain the major advantage
21:25.18Ingelalol is your raidleader stupid :D
21:25.23NivFreakthere's enough raid dmg going around to have him falling back to PoH a lot
21:25.32NivFreakdue to weakened soul
21:25.34Ingelaor he can just shield everything
21:26.09Ingela1 disc 1 holy is by far the best setup you can go if you have 2 priests
21:26.11Ingelafor any fight basicly
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21:26.33NivFreakI don't know that I agree, but that's generally what we run
21:26.47Ingelagood
21:26.51NivFreakbut we run 1 resto druid, 1 resto shaman, 1 holy priest, 1 disc priest, 2xholy paladin
21:27.02NivFreakthe disc priest flexes
21:27.07NivFreak(against his will)
21:27.28Ingelareplace the holy priest with a shaman and you have the setup in my guild
21:27.44Ingelaand i swap for holy for fights that are better
21:27.46Ingelaso far in icc: none!
21:27.47Pneumatuswe have the same setup as above, except we have another holy priest
21:27.52Pneumatus7 healers total
21:28.01NivFreakwe have a 7th ele/resto shaman
21:28.01Pneumatuswe dont use 7 though :<
21:28.05NivFreakfor if we need 7 healers (rare)
21:28.13Ingelawe ran 5 healers for putri lol
21:28.14orionshock... 40min hold time for blizzard billing >.>
21:28.29Pneumatusdont remember the last time all 7 of us were in
21:28.33Pneumatususually 5/6
21:28.41NivFreakwe also don't swap people out much
21:28.59NivFreakmaybe 1 person ends up on standby
21:29.08Pneumatuswe have 5/6 raiders total sitting
21:29.10NivFreakof our raider ranks
21:29.12Pneumatuswe have 32 in the pool i think
21:29.20NivFreakwe also raid 6-7 hours a week ;)
21:35.02sb|workPneumatus: 5-6? phew... :p
21:35.14sb|work37 signups last thursday here :/
21:35.30Pneumatuswe keep our raid pool that lean intentionally
21:35.51sb|workwell i think its okay, 35-40 people is fine
21:36.36sb|workif not now, wait 6 months until summer - thats when you need more people ;)
21:37.11Pneumatusthese are basically the people we were left with after the summer escapades
21:37.12Pneumatusw
21:37.20Pneumatuswe were at about 37 total i think
21:39.04Ingelawe have 30
21:39.06Ingelaand that's our cap
21:39.27Ingelaif we don't have enough people for a raid, we start demoting people that isn't showing up
21:39.36Ingelaonly been a problem once though
21:39.37Ingela:)
21:39.51Ingelaactive raiders iz the win
21:40.27GnarfozAntiarc: when hovering over EG's icon: http://paste.wowace.com/1648/
21:40.36Gnarfozor Shadowed --^
21:40.40Primerheh, my guild had a falling out and we're down to running 10 mans
21:40.56IngelaGnarfoz, i got that too! :O
21:41.06Ingelathe first line
21:42.28sb|workIngela: nah, we are fine with that
21:42.52Ingela37 signups is crazy
21:43.01Ingelaunless you're playing in vanilla
21:43.12sb|workthats "worst case"
21:43.42NeoTronsb|work: how would you even get down to making the raid? Does those signups include standby or lower priority?
21:44.02NeoTronseems like a nightmare
21:44.03steevfirst come first serve
21:44.03sb|workyea some lower priority
21:44.10NeoTronsteev: I was in a guild like that. it's horrible in all respects
21:44.10sb|workand as i said, its worst case, normal is like 32
21:44.12sb|work30-32
21:44.18steevNeoTron: afaik, thats how we work
21:44.25NeoTronone week good raid, the other you get a scrub raid. entirely worthless way of making raids
21:44.38steevNeoTron: eh, we keep our ranks lean as well
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21:44.45steevwe have maybe 2-3 standby max
21:44.56NeoTronwell that's fine. I was combining it with the "37 signups" :P
21:45.07NeoTronwhich is the kind of guild I was referring to (in vanilla work of all things)
21:45.13Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.5-15-g135e849 ElitistGroup.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed error when using LDB plugin
21:45.32NeoTronone week Maexxna died, the other week we spent a whole night trying to get back the twins in AQ40
21:45.54PProvostIt all depends if you think of the guild as existing to do raid progression, or existing to provide a social environment for people who like to raid together.
21:46.11PProvostFor the former, lean and mean is the only way to go.
21:46.26PProvostFor the latter, you can expand but it takes lots of planning to keep it working.
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21:46.55sb|workworked fine for the last 4 years :p
21:48.12NeoTronunless you have universally good players and means to prevent bad players to raid, first come first serve is mediocracy at best
21:48.19NeoTronof course some guilds are happy with that
21:48.35ShadowedGnarfoz ^
21:49.42GnarfozShadowed: much <3
21:49.52steevours is tha latter :(
21:50.01Gnarfozalso, can anyone explain why we got Immortal without doing the spider wing? o_O
21:50.31Pneumatuswas done immortal by someone else on the same id
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21:55.13steevso
21:55.43Repo10nrt: 03Zidomo * r139 NRT.lua: Typo fix.
21:55.50steevanyone know of an app that is like, rawr, khalories, and mr robot combined?
21:56.12sb|workwhats khalories?
21:56.18steevdk simulator
21:56.34steevhttp://elitistjerks.com/f72/t50274-kahories_dk_simulator_1_2_a/
21:56.41steevsorry, kahories*
21:57.45steevthe biggest thing i dislike about kahorie's dk sim is no way to import from the armory
21:57.53steevYES I AM THAT LAZY
21:58.26steevthat and, the machine i run it on doesn't always have internets access
21:58.30Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7046 Naxxramas (2 files in 1 directory): Naxxramas/Faerlina: Bugfix.
22:03.49sb|worksteev: simcraft :p
22:05.22Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.5-17-g69ed677 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
22:05.24Repo69ed677: Removed Personal Electromagnetic Pulse Generator flaggings, it's not like they matter since you can't really enchant your belt with anything useful
22:05.25Repoe0ccb22: Fixed ignore database option stepping in decimals not one day
22:05.25yoshimosteev, i know what rawr does, but what do the other 2 programs?
22:06.40AeyanKahorie's DK simulator is about what it sounds like. Program and GUI that lets you run tests with specificed gear, talent builds, rotations and buffs
22:06.41asmodaidk sim sounds like enhsim
22:06.58AeyanThe robot one is an alternative to Kahorie's
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22:07.39yoshimoso whats the difference to rawr`?
22:08.03AeyanWell, rawr is more of a gear comparison tool
22:08.15AeyanKahorie's is far more precise for actual sim stuff
22:08.57AeyanWhich spec/rotation is best, EP calculation based on that and your gear, etc
22:09.54yoshimoEP?
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22:34.02SunTsuI like altoholic's upgrade search. Searching for an upgrade to a trinket my lvl 57 sp uses - shows icc25 stuff
22:34.21SunTsuyeah, sure, that _would_ be an upgrade, but...
22:34.40asmodai:)
22:34.45asmodaiGo get it
22:35.05asmodaiIt's the problem of most apps that have upgrade paths, they never keep levelling in mind. :(
22:35.54yoshimorawr only works for maxlvl , but i understand that its easier that way
22:35.55NechcknLevel who?  Pfft, no one levels, everyone is 80 now.
22:36.03Nechckn;-)
22:36.25NechcknI say this as I sit with a nearly full account of sub-80s.
22:36.35Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r268 / (8 files in 2 directories): Added a minimap icon
22:37.15yoshimowell not really, but most of them wear heirlooms, and the players which dont  do that, can assume that almost each questreward is an upgrade, cant they?
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22:37.30NechcknWhat I don't like is the very rare times you  may ask someone on your server about an upgrade or stat and they're like "You'll level out of it too soon, don't worry about it."
22:38.25SunTsuyoshimo: I just wanted to see what other trinkets are available at that level and where to get them
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22:38.43yoshimoah ok
22:39.24NechcknDoes the Armory one work for that?
22:39.46asmodaiBattered Hilt, 10k g now XD
22:39.49NechcknI know it is not in-game, but... perhaps an option.
22:40.40SunTsuNechckn: I'm going to try that, I just found altoholic's upgrade proposals quite absurd
22:40.49Nechcknagreed
22:41.28yoshimoasmodai we can still sell it at 17k and more :)
22:41.30NechcknJust run that fella to ICC and you will be all set.   =P
22:41.38yoshimounfortunately i need it myself^^
22:42.19SunTsuI've been to the icc heroics for nearly fourty times, and I saw that damn thing TWICE
22:42.42yoshimoare they still messing with the droprate?^^
22:42.51steevaccording to the mrrobot tool, if i switch to the legplates of painful death, and lose the t9.3 bonus, i'll gain ~11 dps +/- 41.8 :-P
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22:43.24SunTsusteev: doesn't look like something to be desired
22:44.15steevSunTsu: supposedly, i should be around 9117.9 +/- 38.2
22:45.06steevin reality i sit anywhere from 5-18k depending on fight
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22:46.18steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/3y1fu5fwz7c4wxrp/sum/damageDone/?s=1581&e=1722 <3
22:46.22steev638 baby
22:46.43yoshimoi think calculating works only for static fights with perfect latency and a non moving target like the training targets in the main cities
22:46.52SunTsusteev: yeah, that's what I meant. 11 dps is something that can be wasted and gained in any fight in a blink
22:47.24Megalonif the gain is more then the error range of the sim
22:47.26Megalonwell ;)
22:47.32Megalonerm less :x
22:48.05Aeyan9k sounds about right for an optimally buffed/debuffed 25 raid single target no gimmicks
22:48.05AeyanRarely happens =P
22:48.39SunTsu18k sounds like an unholy dk doing AoE in 25 raid
22:49.07steevSunTsu: yeah, ony
22:49.18steevloves me some whelps
22:49.36steev2 pestilence, blood tap, dnd
22:51.31steevwhen did they put in that dnd damage spike stop
22:51.33steever
22:51.36steevaoe damage spike stop
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22:52.54SunTsusteev: yeah, but I perfectly can understand reasons for that after seeing my utterly bad equipped warlock peaking to 30k dps on skadi shotgun
22:53.02steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/bhoca2nur3h7ms9y/sum/damageDone/?s=4393&e=4889 :D
22:53.29Repo10analyst: 03Bethink * r67 / (8 files in 2 directories): Added a minimap icon
22:54.08steevi spiked up to 135537.7 on whelps heh
22:54.36steevthat was also the attempt where we did Many Whelps achieve
22:55.13steevAeyan: i'm okay with not doing 9, but i'm not okay with not doing as well as the other dk in our guild :/
22:55.20Repo10analyst: 03Bethink * r68 / (2 files in 1 directory): Version number
22:55.29SunTsumy warlock's average ilevel hasn't even reached 200
22:57.03steevwell Indifferent uses a non-reaping build because he doesn't have 2p t10
22:57.20steevhe does however have shadow's edge and i'm still using Justicebringer (normal)
22:58.17steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/2lf5y7c2m63ucntk/sum/damageDone/
22:59.05steevi still dunno what i'm doing wrong
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23:05.31steevthese numbers are interesting
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23:07.56steevVirulence/9.3 - 9125+/-35.4, HM/9.3 - 9184.8+/-41.0, PD/HM - 9197.8+/-40, PD/Vir - 9168.3+/-38.4, CSD/Vir/PD - 9149.7+/-35.3, CSD/HM/PD - 9223.2+/-43.1
23:10.55steevhrm, if i switch out the titanium razorplate for the 9.3 chest, HM/PD/CSD becomes 9417.5+/-43.0, and CSD/PD/Vir becomes 9363.4+/-44.8
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23:11.57steev9417.5 - 43 > 9363.4
23:12.07steevwe has a possible winna!
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23:14.42NeoTronwarlocks spike below the dps on many classes ftw
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23:20.04Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.5.1-5-g3e76400 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
23:20.06Repo3e76400: - Updated .TOC "Notes:" translations from the ABOUT_NOTES local.
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23:25.19taledenanyone know of a way to get an appropriate icon for a temporary weapon buff, rather than using the weapon's own icon?
23:25.44PProvostYou mean the icon for the spell?
23:26.10taledenaye, spell for things like rockbiter, item for things like crippling poison
23:26.18taledennot an easy problem I know, hoping someone has a clever trick for this
23:27.40Ingelajust do /macro and randomly search for an good icon?
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23:28.08taledenthis is for an addon, which reacts to temp weapon buffs, so i don't know beforehand what buff will be found
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23:28.27taledeni have the name of the buff as shown on the tooltip, i.e. "Rockbiter 1" or "Crippling Poison" or whatever
23:31.48Pneumatustootlip scan then GetSpellInfo() on the name?
23:32.47taledendon't suppose there's a way to get the spellid of a temporary weapon enchant?
23:32.58Gnarfoztaleden: PB4 has an option to do it, afair, check it's code?
23:33.08taledeni assume if there was, people wouldn't have to do crazy tooltip scanning to get the name
23:33.13Pneumatusthe aura must have a spellid
23:33.15Gnarfozhow do you check for temporary weapon enchants anyway?
23:33.20Gnarfozare they auras?
23:33.31taledenno, that's the problem, they work totally separate from regular buffs/debuffs
23:33.45taledenand there's no api function to directly get the name of the applied buff, you can see whether there is one, and its duration
23:34.08taledenbut to get the name i had to copy some wacky tooltip comparison routine.. i've looked at 4 addons that deal with temp enchants, they all have to use tooltip scanning
23:34.14arkaneswhats PB4?
23:34.25taledengnarfoz: i'll look at pb4, thanks
23:34.27arkanestaleden: yeah it's the only way, the API doesn't return the spell info
23:34.48PProvostI think the best you can do is tooltip scanning
23:34.49taledenwill GetSpellInfo("Rockbiter 1") work? or does it need just "Rockbiter" ?
23:35.17arkanesare you making a buff mod that shows the spell info in the tooltip rather than the items tooltip?
23:35.27arkanesI've been meaning to patch EKB to do that for so long
23:35.35arkanesbzr status
23:35.37taledeni'm adding weapon enchant support to my addon that already monitors regular buffs/debuffs
23:35.43arkaneswoops
23:36.10taledenso it will watch whenever the temp enchant changes, see if the new enchant matches any of the ones it's configured to look for, then update some visuals accordingly
23:36.23arkanesthere's an event for the enchant changing
23:36.32taledenUNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED is all I could find
23:36.34arkanesI forget what it is
23:36.43taledenbut apparently that's pretty spammy sometimes so I bucketed it
23:36.54arkanesyeah that might be all you have
23:37.06taledenthe whole api for temp enchants is ridiculously sparse
23:37.09arkaneslast time I messed with this wa sthe 2.0 days
23:38.11taledenoh well, i'll see if pb4 has any clever tricks up its sleeve, thanks all
23:47.03Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r112 changelog.txt: updated changelog
23:47.45Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny 042.6.3 * r113 : Tagging as 2.6.3
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