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| 00:33.36 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r288 / (3 files in 2 directories): fix tickets 107, 109, 110, 111, 112 |
| 00:33.38 | Repo | fix WatchFrame_Update infinite OnUpdate causing memory leak |
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| 02:23.25 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r7106-release * r7106 : Push new/fixed Citadel timers. |
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| 02:43.41 | steev | argh |
| 02:45.09 | steev | haste: happen to know what might be causing this? - http://dpaste.com/150979/ every time i hop in the gun in the gunship battle... i get spammed with that error |
| 02:52.32 | Shefki | steev: My guess is he doesn't have power colors setup for the heat power type. |
| 02:54.22 | steev | mmm |
| 02:54.29 | steev | you're right - i see POWER_TYPE_STEAM and PYRITE |
| 02:54.36 | steev | so i guess i just add a _HEAT ? |
| 02:57.29 | Shefki | steev: See the stuff in Main.lua of PB4. |
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| 02:57.50 | Shefki | There's more than just HEAT to add. |
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| 03:23.56 | steev | Shefki: are repos browsable online yet? |
| 03:24.52 | ckknight | nope. |
| 03:25.13 | steev | :( |
| 03:25.18 | steev | i don't wanna download pb4 just to look |
| 03:25.24 | ckknight | DO EET |
| 03:26.55 | steev | ahh i see |
| 03:27.02 | steev | blood_power and ooze |
| 03:28.01 | Ingela | so, what's the awesomest unit frames |
| 03:28.11 | Ingela | don't care much about functionallity, only about design |
| 03:28.16 | Ingela | need them for tanking! |
| 03:28.19 | steev | pitbull4 |
| 03:28.21 | steev | just sayin |
| 03:28.33 | Ingela | was thinking more about like ouf_somerandomguy |
| 03:28.43 | Ingela | because pitbull is just "do your own shit dude" |
| 03:28.44 | steev | i'm using oUF_Freeb myself |
| 03:28.59 | syeren | So if it's 'Do your own shit dude'. |
| 03:29.00 | steev | slightly modified |
| 03:29.04 | syeren | Then you can make the best design possible. |
| 03:29.19 | Ingela | nope i can't |
| 03:29.28 | steev | ckknight: where did you come up with these numbers for the colors? |
| 03:29.45 | ckknight | which colors? |
| 03:29.49 | Ingela | since i'm a perfectionist in my own doings, if everything isn't perfect it isn't complete and i need to change it |
| 03:29.56 | steev | http://dpaste.com/150979/ |
| 03:29.58 | steev | feh |
| 03:30.03 | steev | DATABASE_DEFAULTS.profile.colors.power["POWER_TYPE_BLOOD_POWER"] = { 0.73725494556129, 0, 1 } |
| 03:30.14 | Nechckn | ckknight hired my cat to code the colors, steev. Why do you not like them? |
| 03:30.15 | steev | thats some hard core decimal action |
| 03:30.47 | Nechckn | If you were spaced out on catnip, they'd make purrrfect sense. |
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| 03:35.52 | Ingela | thanks steev though i'm gonna try that one out |
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| 03:36.39 | steev | you'll have to edit ftags and add some power types |
| 03:36.46 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.47 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.47 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:37.26 | Ingela | why is a that?! |
| 03:38.00 | steev | cuz it doesn't have them |
| 03:38.05 | steev | and if you hop in a gun |
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| 03:38.13 | steev | you'll start getting spammed with some errors |
| 03:38.41 | Groktar | yay 25m on a boat |
| 03:38.45 | ckknight | steev: sorry, I didn't come up with those. |
| 03:38.48 | steev | bastard |
| 03:38.54 | steev | we didn't get it yet again |
| 03:39.05 | Ingela | where should i add those steev |
| 03:39.17 | steev | then again, the team over there didn't expect their boat to die on the third mage |
| 03:39.28 | WobWork | Groktar: You're on a boat? |
| 03:39.34 | steev | Ingela: around like 29 |
| 03:39.37 | steev | line* |
| 03:39.42 | Ingela | in which file |
| 03:39.47 | Ingela | i never used ouf before |
| 03:39.51 | Groktar | the stupid achievement |
| 03:40.34 | Ingela | rather steev, can you please just post yours in a pastebin/wowace paste because i guess there's other shit i need to fix :) |
| 03:40.37 | steev | ftags.lua |
| 03:40.42 | steev | inside oUF_Freeb |
| 03:41.01 | Ingela | ah |
| 03:41.04 | Ingela | it's just that? |
| 03:41.05 | Ingela | nvm then |
| 03:41.08 | Ingela | thanks :) |
| 03:42.31 | steev | Ingela: as far as i can tell from what pb4 has in it |
| 03:43.17 | Ingela | ok! |
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| 03:45.41 | Groktar | yesss |
| 03:45.52 | Groktar | i convinced a rogue to sunder on saurfang |
| 03:46.54 | Ingela | n1 |
| 03:51.05 | steev | wtf |
| 03:51.11 | steev | we've wiped twice on festergut now |
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| 03:51.22 | steev | we've never had a problem on him before |
| 03:51.52 | Ingela | hmm steev no party frames? |
| 03:52.38 | steev | Ingela: nope, i use oUF_Freebgrid for that :) |
| 03:52.47 | Ingela | ew grid |
| 03:52.53 | koaschten_ | http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11866 how can they ship worldwide for free o.O |
| 03:52.55 | steev | no, not grid |
| 03:53.07 | Ingela | it's still grid |
| 03:53.08 | Ingela | to me |
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| 04:01.07 | steev | eesh |
| 04:01.16 | steev | 132k raid dps and still barely beat enrage |
| 04:01.27 | Ingela | on what boss |
| 04:03.13 | koaschten_ | Groktar if you are a warrior then you are stupid. |
| 04:03.47 | steev | festergut |
| 04:04.03 | steev | we're on rotface now |
| 04:13.28 | steev | eesh, we're doing not so good tonight |
| 04:30.51 | steev | p3 on our first attempt at putricide for the night however... we did it right as he cast an orange slime :/ |
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| 05:01.08 | steev | argh |
| 05:01.09 | steev | 3% |
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| 05:02.35 | steev | whats the verdict on using vanish/invis on teargas? |
| 05:02.46 | steev | exploit or working as intended? |
| 05:06.28 | WobWork | is teargas aoe? |
| 05:06.30 | Shefki | I'd say it's a bug but it's not an exploit. |
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| 05:12.08 | Repo | 10lockdots: 03Xocide 07master * v0.1-3-ge5dd680 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added more spells to track. |
| 05:13.28 | steev | WobWork: aoe afaik |
| 05:15.35 | Repo | 10lockdots: 03Xocide 04v0.2 * b1d21b0 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.2 |
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| 05:17.40 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-30-g3eb4f90 Modules/LuaTexts/LuaTexts.lua: [+1 commit] Fix an error in LuaTexts default Health texts. The wrong event was |
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| 05:19.28 | ulic | the wrong event was what? the suspense is killing me! |
| 05:19.55 | ulic | doh, it said that twice huh? sorry about that, still ident message tricked me. |
| 05:22.48 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta2-13-g9cec97a Spamalyzer.lua: [+12 commits] (8 truncated) |
| 05:22.50 | Repo | 9cec97a: In Spamalyzer:UpdateTooltip(): Cancel timers.tooltip_update then nil it out instead of simply calling CancelAllTimers(). Also, in the case of a nil tooltip, set LDB_anchor and elapsed_line to nil. |
| 05:22.51 | Repo | f66a645: In Spamalyzer:StoreMessage(): If not tracking this message type, and there is no output_frame, abort immediately. |
| 05:22.53 | Repo | a3f145a: In Spamalyzer:StoreMessage(): Don't try to assign a class to a player who is already known. |
| 05:22.54 | Repo | 0a66df7: In data_obj.OnEnter(): Check for timers.tooltip_update before drawing the tooltip or scheduling the tooltip update timer. |
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| 05:52.25 | steev | hooray! |
| 05:52.46 | steev | the other dk switched to t9-2+t10-2 and now we're like 300 dps apart on most fights |
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| 06:20.39 | Repo | 10goblinvendorfilter: 03Torhal 07master * 0.7.2b-1-gdd8eab1 GoblinVendorFilter.lua: [+1 commit] In ShowMerchantSellCursor(): If GetMerchantNumItems() is not higher than zero, do nothing. |
| 06:23.51 | asmodai | steev: That's a good thing? :) |
| 06:29.26 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe * r131 GridStatusHots.toc: toc-update |
| 06:30.48 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r90 Defaults.lua: Fixed Druids' Rebirth announce. |
| 06:31.42 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe 043.3 * r132 : Tagging as 3.3 |
| 06:34.30 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r91 modules/Source_Spellcasts.lua: |
| 06:34.32 | Repo | Spellcasts: do not trigger "instantCast" announces for non-instant spells. |
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| 07:02.04 | asmodai | Why the hell do people include trash in boss kill tactics videos >_< |
| 07:03.01 | nevcairiel | because trash is hard, hmkay! |
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| 07:06.10 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Not to mention shitty taste in music :( |
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| 07:07.46 | nevcairiel | thats a given in kill videos |
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| 07:08.01 | Repo | 10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 * r44 Ammo-matique.lua: |
| 07:08.05 | Repo | * Prevent running SetAttribute while in combat lockdown, as that seems to |
| 07:08.06 | Repo | cause taint. |
| 07:12.07 | Repo | 10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 041.9beta2 * r45 : Tagging as 1.9beta2 |
| 07:16.27 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-31-ga872402 Modules/LuaTexts/LuaTexts.lua: [+1 commit] Hmm so I guess somehow a text can exist without the events table. |
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| 07:22.02 | orionshock | Shefki, you know i found some PB FS being regions of the UIParent.... |
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| 08:02.28 | vhaarr | gah, maintenance |
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| 08:02.42 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/categories/ |
| 08:03.06 | digmouse | ooh thanks |
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| 08:25.55 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 08:25.57 | Repo | - Added Arcane Empowerment and modified rule for Improved scorch |
| 08:25.58 | Repo | - Hopefully fixed the lib not loading problem |
| 08:27.58 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar 04v1.5.4 * r59 : Tagging as v1.5.4 |
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| 08:35.17 | Groktar | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r8vfjifah9itgb2r/sum/damageDone/?s=6313&e=6513 |
| 08:35.19 | Groktar | rawr! |
| 08:38.01 | asmodai | Groktar: only 7th?! |
| 08:38.05 | Groktar | :( |
| 08:38.38 | asmodai | Groktar: *grin* |
| 08:38.43 | asmodai | Good warrior *pat pat* |
| 08:39.18 | Groktar | was just looking at our damage in general |
| 08:39.23 | Groktar | Fureon was a frost death knight |
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| 08:43.15 | evl | Is there any way to apply a filter to CHAT_MSG_ADDON? |
| 08:43.34 | evl | Was running spamalyzer in yesterdays raid and the amount of messages from LibHealComm is just insane |
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| 08:44.35 | Kuosi | is your shadowpriest afk half of the fight Groktar oO |
| 08:45.50 | Groktar | haha |
| 08:46.10 | Groktar | yeah, we're raging about him in vent |
| 08:46.32 | evl | Actually, I have problems beating our shadowpriest on some fights, I'm a rogue |
| 08:46.56 | Kuosi | depends on fight |
| 08:47.03 | Kuosi | if it's pure single target and no movement |
| 08:47.07 | Kuosi | rogue comes out top |
| 08:47.39 | evl | or if you're a blood sucking vampire! |
| 08:48.17 | Kuosi | did 17k on 10man blood queen :P |
| 08:48.27 | Kuosi | while doing 4.7k hps |
| 08:48.33 | Kuosi | shahdow is pretty sex there |
| 08:48.48 | Kuosi | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/lb9jmwclkmk0qg1x/sum/damageDone/ |
| 08:48.54 | Kuosi | got pretty close on festergut |
| 08:49.05 | Kuosi | getting 4p t10 today tho! |
| 08:49.21 | evl | The golden days of melees are long gone |
| 08:49.35 | asmodai | Groktar: Malfureon? *badum tsshhhh* |
| 08:50.03 | evl | Move from green shit, move from vials, move from jumping shit, move from bone storm, jump from ship to ship, move with spores, move from slime spray, move from flames on the ground, move to link, move to flaming orb, move from vortex |
| 08:50.14 | evl | I probably forgot a few there |
| 08:50.21 | evl | my biggest DPS increase is probably +movement speed |
| 08:50.36 | Kuosi | you dont move from bone storm |
| 08:50.47 | evl | Why not? |
| 08:50.57 | Kuosi | because then you do less dmg ofc |
| 08:51.00 | evl | It's going to kill you in Heroic better to get used to it |
| 08:51.39 | Kuosi | melee might have to move more than ranged on some fights |
| 08:51.48 | Kuosi | melee also does way more dmg while moving |
| 08:52.48 | evl | I just think the whole raid-wide ticking damage + movement mechanic is getting so oooold in ICC |
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| 08:54.10 | olafski | we didn't have to move for Lucifron! |
| 08:54.10 | Wobin | Kuosi, I'd say warlocks do more damage when moving =P |
| 08:54.10 | Kuosi | blood queen hardmode |
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| 08:54.31 | Kuosi | Wobin: well that depends if the boss is moved along with the melee :P |
| 08:54.42 | Kuosi | + affliction warlock actually suffers the most from movement |
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| 08:55.40 | Kuosi | :( |
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| 09:00.08 | Groktar | i had to convince Zaub to expose armor for that attempt |
| 09:00.21 | Groktar | "please? just this ONE fight?" |
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| 09:03.47 | olafski | that's just like adding 20% arp isn't it? or does it work in a different way |
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| 09:06.30 | asmodai | Groktar: Why wouldn't you want to do that? |
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| 09:11.02 | vhaarr | ~seen Calebv |
| 09:11.04 | purl | i haven't seen 'calebv', vhaarr |
| 09:11.04 | vhaarr | ~seen Calebv| |
| 09:11.05 | purl | i haven't seen 'calebv|', vhaarr |
| 09:13.10 | Fisker | hey vhaarr |
| 09:13.18 | vhaarr | hello |
| 09:18.11 | asmodai | rofl |
| 09:18.13 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/byeYZ.jpg |
| 09:18.22 | asmodai | healer was bored and started reading reddit, this is the result |
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| 09:19.39 | nevcairiel | thats what you get for being a boring group |
| 09:25.14 | Wobin | <@GaidinBDJ> Wanna feel old? Just think, if they remade Back to the Future now, they would be travelling back to 1980. |
| 09:25.17 | Wobin | >< |
| 09:26.04 | krka_ | yeah that's scary :( |
| 09:26.24 | Wobin | PS |
| 09:26.28 | Fisker | i'm going to hurt you Wobin |
| 09:26.33 | Wobin | Psychonauts for 1 pound |
| 09:26.36 | Wobin | GO BUY |
| 09:26.40 | Wobin | if you have not already |
| 09:26.51 | Wobin | http://store.steampowered.com/app/3830/ |
| 09:26.55 | Wobin | $2 USD! |
| 09:26.58 | Fisker | i'm not UK Wobin |
| 09:27.01 | Fisker | NOT UK |
| 09:27.08 | Wobin | 2 Euro! |
| 09:27.14 | Wobin | or something |
| 09:27.20 | nevcairiel | wth is that game |
| 09:27.27 | Wobin | It's an awesome game! |
| 09:27.41 | Wobin | released in 2005 |
| 09:29.37 | Fisker | it's an old game |
| 09:32.37 | nevcairiel | that silly game is nearly 4gb? |
| 09:32.58 | Fisker | your mom is 4GB |
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| 09:37.38 | Wobin | nevcairiel, that's almost 50c per gig! |
| 09:37.56 | [Ammo] | and you get a game that looks like utter shit on a stick |
| 09:38.06 | Wobin | pft, it's a great game |
| 09:38.15 | Wobin | they don't write them like that nowadays |
| 09:38.23 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 09:38.28 | nevcairiel | no, they do it with better gfx =P |
| 09:38.51 | Wobin | nevcairiel, I'm talking about story =P and gameplay |
| 09:38.54 | Wobin | not 3d |
| 09:39.14 | Wobin | I'll happily play a game with shit graphics, if the gameplay and the story is good |
| 09:39.26 | Wobin | cause fuck if I'm going to pay good money just for a pretty movie |
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| 09:44.35 | [Ammo] | I spent 3 hours last night hitting my affliction rotation on a target dummy and reloading ui |
| 09:44.49 | [Ammo] | but I think my rotation helper is starting to work pretty damn well |
| 09:45.23 | Fisker | what is your rotation helper? |
| 09:46.01 | [Ammo] | shows me what button to press |
| 09:46.04 | [Ammo] | I am teh lazy |
| 09:46.19 | Yivry | he be a onebutton lock :p |
| 09:46.24 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 09:46.27 | Wobin | like Ovale? |
| 09:46.39 | [Ammo] | ovale? |
| 09:46.54 | Wobin | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ovale.aspx |
| 09:47.30 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 09:47.34 | [Ammo] | checking |
| 09:47.52 | [Ammo] | I started out writing a clcret for my lock |
| 09:48.27 | Fisker | owned :( |
| 09:48.41 | [Ammo] | definately not like ovale |
| 09:48.57 | [Ammo] | ovale is way too complicated |
| 09:49.35 | [Ammo] | not to mention in french! |
| 09:51.11 | Yivry | both french and english if you look again ;) |
| 09:52.12 | [Ammo] | all the code has french all over it |
| 09:52.52 | Fisker | so you can't steal it! |
| 09:53.02 | [Ammo] | I don't need to |
| 09:53.11 | [Ammo] | I don't need a compiler in a scripting language thank you very much |
| 09:53.39 | Fisker | that's what you say now |
| 09:55.40 | Fisker | my steam folder is growing out of control [Ammo] :( |
| 09:55.57 | Fisker | 373 GB (400.695.789.121 bytes) |
| 09:55.58 | Fisker | 311.406 Files, 15.126 Folders |
| 09:56.00 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:56.06 | Yivry | ouch |
| 09:56.08 | Fisker | yay |
| 09:56.11 | Fisker | first EU servers coming up |
| 09:56.14 | [Ammo] | delete |
| 09:56.17 | [Ammo] | everything |
| 09:56.17 | asmodai | http://toomanyannas.com/wallpapers/ |
| 09:56.18 | [Ammo] | now |
| 09:56.32 | Fisker | i'm a sucker for storing everything [Ammo] |
| 09:56.34 | asmodai | People are starting to preserve old Azeroth XD |
| 09:57.20 | [Ammo] | oh and hiding your porn in your steam folder is also a bad idea |
| 09:58.27 | Kuosi | whee server up |
| 09:58.34 | Kuosi | lfm 10man icc to get 4p t10 |
| 09:58.54 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 09:59.19 | Fisker | need 95 emblems for 4p T10 :o |
| 10:01.39 | Fisker | Wish they had kept the same 45/75 costs as with T9 |
| 10:02.03 | Yivry | anyone experience with the blizz billing and account team? how long does it usually take for them to respond to webform reports? |
| 10:02.13 | Fisker | a billion years |
| 10:02.19 | Fisker | call instead |
| 10:02.21 | asmodai | Fisker: Your Shephard probably looked like http://imgur.com/0pCVx ? mmm |
| 10:02.37 | asmodai | Yivry: calling > mailing/webform |
| 10:02.44 | Fisker | no asmodai |
| 10:02.52 | Fisker | i was first btw asmodai |
| 10:03.12 | Fisker | anyways depending on the work load it can take anywhere from a week to a month |
| 10:03.18 | Fisker | atleast as far as EU are concerned |
| 10:03.31 | Fisker | beats EA though lol! |
| 10:04.03 | Yivry | damn I hate calling :/ |
| 10:04.30 | Grum | Kemayo: |
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| 10:05.34 | Fisker | but i hate you Yivry :( |
| 10:05.48 | Fisker | oh cool lag |
| 10:06.41 | Fisker | i will hurt you Grum |
| 10:06.55 | Grum | you will try |
| 10:06.56 | Fisker | why does Blizzard have to fail Grum ? |
| 10:07.08 | Grum | they know you play the game, they make you qq |
| 10:08.12 | Fisker | i want some fermi now |
| 10:10.30 | Yivry | why dont I feel like having breakfast? :/ |
| 10:12.16 | nevcairiel | So some idiot on the forums wants to fix cartographer, and people are actually telling him how to get access to svn, fail! |
| 10:12.36 | Fisker | fml |
| 10:13.01 | Yivry | doesnt matter... "how can you kill that, which has no life?" |
| 10:15.14 | nevcairiel | you burn it with fire |
| 10:17.35 | Yivry | bwahaha from that thread "Especially absolutely no software that somehow links my windows/internet explorer to the internet." |
| 10:17.46 | Yivry | so, what about his firefox huh? |
| 10:18.03 | Yivry | and probably he uses msn or some sort too |
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| 10:18.19 | Yivry | oh and not forget he plays wow... yes the interwebz are a scary place :p |
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| 10:20.50 | Wobin | Yivry, WoW is probably safe |
| 10:20.54 | Wobin | Cause he has an Authenticator |
| 10:21.18 | Yivry | doesnt matter, it still connects "his windows" to "the internet" :p |
| 10:21.33 | Wobin | But Blizzard told him the authenticator would be SAFE |
| 10:21.39 | Wobin | are you saying Blizzard LIED TO HIM? |
| 10:21.45 | Yivry | duh |
| 10:22.07 | Yivry | Bliezzard :p |
| 10:22.18 | Wobin | terrible |
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| 10:24.21 | Megalon | B. Lizzard speaks with forked tongue |
| 10:25.33 | nevcairiel | lizard is spelled with one z :d |
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| 10:27.44 | Megalon | but the company is spelled with two, you know |
| 10:28.06 | Kalroth | LIZARD LIES TO US AGAIN |
| 10:28.38 | Wobin | wizzard |
| 10:28.50 | nevcairiel | bwizzard? |
| 10:29.12 | Kalroth | its a wizzing guy that goes bwahaha |
| 10:30.34 | asmodai | cool, Spyker bought Saab |
| 10:30.49 | haste | steev: one of his tags is doing something wrong |
| 10:35.38 | Torhal | Just so you know, Fisker will kill you all. |
| 10:36.06 | Yivry | not if we kill him first ;) |
| 10:36.23 | Torhal | You wouldn't kill a Fisker. |
| 10:37.23 | nevcairiel | a fisker? does that imply there are more of him? |
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| 10:39.37 | Kalroth | We got a barrel full of him |
| 10:41.07 | Wobin | we got a good volume deal on some factory seconds |
| 10:43.11 | Kalroth | With great power comes great responsibility. Fisker wisely. |
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| 10:49.23 | SunTsu | There can't be more than one Fisker, and if there is they never should come to the same place, because it would be akin to a black hole, common sense wise |
| 10:50.23 | Yivry | Fiskers cancel eachother out? |
| 10:50.58 | Kalroth | Fiskerlander |
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| 10:52.28 | SunTsu | Yivry: No, they'd suck all common sense in the area into themselves, destroying it |
| 10:55.35 | asmodai | For those interested: Many of you were wondering if Google Summer of Code 2010 is on for 2010 and the answer is yes! We will begin accepting application from would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC. Students can apply between 19:00 UTC on March 29th to 19:00 UTC on April 9th. |
| 10:56.54 | nevcairiel | I shouldve signed up as a student last year |
| 10:57.10 | nevcairiel | this year i'm no student anymore at those dates =P |
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| 10:57.39 | Xinhuan | whats that |
| 10:57.48 | nevcairiel | you don't know GSoC? |
| 10:57.53 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:58.07 | nevcairiel | google basically pays you to work on a specific task for some open source project |
| 10:58.48 | nevcairiel | i believe it was 5000 USD last year, 500 to the project, and 4500 to you |
| 11:00.03 | Xinhuan | what kind of projects? |
| 11:00.28 | nevcairiel | depends who signs up, usually a wide range of well-known open source projects sign up |
| 11:00.43 | asmodai | There's KDE, FreeBSD, Gnome, NetBSD |
| 11:00.51 | asmodai | and a shitload of other smaller and bigger ones |
| 11:01.29 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2528 Core/AtlasLoot.lua: - Set non heroic to default |
| 11:01.30 | asmodai | Heh, even Lua had some |
| 11:01.35 | nevcairiel | http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 11:01.38 | nevcairiel | that the list of 2009 |
| 11:01.45 | asmodai | Xinhuan: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 11:01.49 | asmodai | oh |
| 11:01.52 | asmodai | nevcairiel: lol |
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| 11:10.27 | Fisker | lol |
| 11:10.38 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12304322914&postId=123030263482&sid=1#0 <-fucking hilarious |
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| 11:12.20 | Grum | did you rename your char again Fisker? :D |
| 11:12.28 | Grum | isnt that actually you? |
| 11:12.57 | Fisker | i don't have a druid |
| 11:18.37 | Grum | you suck! |
| 11:18.46 | Grum | wtm someone to level my remaining 7 chars to 80 ;( |
| 11:21.45 | SunTsu | Grum: leveling is fun, I really like it. And I still don't know what to do as soon as all my toons are 80 finally |
| 11:24.31 | nevcairiel | i've been trying to get into a freaking battleground to test some reported mapster issues, but nothing opens this time of day, ftl |
| 11:25.24 | Grum | SunTsu: leveling fun? you do the same content 10 times over :( |
| 11:25.30 | Grum | its not that fun, its like doing dailies |
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| 11:28.22 | Grum | so SunTsu; how do you make it more fun for yourself? maybe i can learn and make it fun to level my remaining 7 lvl60s up to 80 |
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| 11:32.27 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/dear_gnome/480715.html |
| 11:34.01 | asmodai | Grum: I guess you might not be the type to find levelling fun ;P |
| 11:34.22 | evl | Is there any way to apply a filter to CHAT_MSG_ADDON? |
| 11:34.24 | Grum | i'm sortof into rushing things so yeah :( |
| 11:34.35 | asmodai | You insta-gratification fooks. |
| 11:34.37 | asmodai | :P |
| 11:34.56 | Grum | ey i took the time to level one of each class to 60! |
| 11:35.02 | Grum | well .. not completely true |
| 11:35.31 | Grum | i raffed my rogue+warrior+mage from 30,15,30 up |
| 11:35.45 | olafski | suntsu: I have the same problem :( |
| 11:35.55 | yoshimo | it might be too early nev, and the new queuing system is bad especially before 4pm ;) |
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| 11:38.06 | Grum | SunTsu: i guess getting gear ... :P |
| 11:38.21 | Grum | i think i'll just leave most of my toons at 80 (whenever i get em there) until 4.0 |
| 11:38.45 | SunTsu | Grum: not exactly, no, you can vary in zones, and you always have to do new solutions to problems, because you have different means in doing so |
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| 11:39.22 | Grum | SunTsu: mmm i sofar grind the 'lowest level' areas first |
| 11:39.32 | olafski | I have a lvl 60 of each class, and am still not bored of leveling :> |
| 11:39.40 | SunTsu | Grum: yeah, I'm gearing up all my lvl80 toons at the moment, still 3.5 to go |
| 11:39.41 | Grum | so 2+2 levels in fjord+whatsitcalled |
| 11:40.00 | Grum | SunTsu: til what level of gear? ~232 stuff or actually raiding? 245+? |
| 11:40.12 | SunTsu | I'm at 8xlvl80 and 2xlvl60 |
| 11:40.19 | Grum | mad shit :) |
| 11:40.27 | Grum | 2x80,77,7x60 atm |
| 11:40.38 | Grum | and that 77 has ben 77 for sooooooooooooo long ;D |
| 11:40.43 | olafski | ha I knew there had to be someone more insane than me |
| 11:40.56 | olafski | 6x 80, 72, 70, 62, 62 here :> |
| 11:41.02 | olafski | I started 2 weeks before wotlk came out |
| 11:41.03 | nevcairiel | i'm at 2x80 and 2x70 :P |
| 11:41.10 | Grum | oh i lied |
| 11:41.16 | Grum | i have 7 lvl70 shamans as well |
| 11:41.20 | SunTsu | Grum: 232 + badge stuff - because my guild is nearly extinct, maybe I'd start some pug raiding, now that I can do more than 12 fps in 10 man raids |
| 11:41.21 | Grum | erm 5 |
| 11:41.54 | Grum | i found most classes to become rather unplayable after the massive changes in recent patches |
| 11:42.00 | Yivry | "only" 2x80 1x75 1x70 1x63 and some more lowbies here :p |
| 11:42.05 | Grum | i have absolutely no idea how to play my lvl77 hunter now for example |
| 11:42.17 | Grum | (which is the reason its 77) |
| 11:42.19 | Yivry | just hit autoshot :p |
| 11:42.21 | olafski | you could.. try |
| 11:42.24 | SunTsu | the only class I'll probably not gear is my druid, sick of playing him |
| 11:42.37 | Grum | druid would seem like a fun class to play imho |
| 11:42.38 | olafski | gearing up is boring imo.. I just like the leveling |
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| 11:42.45 | olafski | which is why I'll run into a problem when I have 10x 80 :< |
| 11:42.47 | Grum | that with lock+mage i'm looking forward to the most |
| 11:43.03 | Grum | olafski: buy another account! |
| 11:43.06 | olafski | or I'll just start leveling on another server |
| 11:43.13 | olafski | already started a paladin and a warrior on another realm |
| 11:44.42 | SunTsu | my DK already has 2 251 weapons and a 264 cloak, and I really would like to do some more ICC, but without clear achievements you don't get into pugs |
| 11:45.10 | Yivry | WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 11:45.11 | Kalroth | "ICC10 PUG, MUST HAVE KILLED ARTHAS" |
| 11:45.13 | Yivry | Parteh!!!! |
| 11:45.24 | Yivry | got my account back! |
| 11:45.35 | SunTsu | on a side note, Quel'Delar looks too small to be two-handed |
| 11:45.40 | Yivry | fu nev :p |
| 11:46.01 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: you should have waited until he filled it up again |
| 11:46.20 | SunTsu | Yivry: how did they compromise it? |
| 11:46.23 | olafski | gz yivry :) |
| 11:46.29 | olafski | very much so suntsu :( |
| 11:46.37 | olafski | it still looks nice though |
| 11:46.54 | Yivry | got hacked first, and banned for illegal trading short after |
| 11:47.15 | SunTsu | We recently got robbed of stuff in our guild bank of out ex guild leader - who was compromised, too |
| 11:47.45 | SunTsu | Yivry: my question basically was how your account was getting "hacked" |
| 11:47.53 | Yivry | oh right |
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| 11:48.23 | Yivry | I have no clue, scans found no malware and Im always very careful with passwords |
| 11:48.39 | nevcairiel | So you will actually get hacked again :D |
| 11:48.41 | Grum | you use the same password anywhere else? |
| 11:48.47 | Grum | you read mail? |
| 11:48.48 | SunTsu | with my ex guild leader it was some malicious dll which no AV did notice |
| 11:48.52 | olafski | same as me then yivry ;) |
| 11:48.54 | Grum | you use internet exploder? or flash? |
| 11:48.59 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: yeah, that was what I was thinking |
| 11:49.02 | Grum | people getting hacked sortof do it to themselves :) |
| 11:49.09 | Yivry | chrome/ff no ie |
| 11:49.26 | Yivry | nev: thats why i will be adding an authenticator asap :p |
| 11:49.42 | CrazyBenny | mobile authenticators ftw ;) |
| 11:49.44 | nevcairiel | I dont understand people that don't have one yet |
| 11:49.54 | olafski | did you get your stuff back yivry? |
| 11:50.02 | Yivry | dunno, have yet to login :p |
| 11:50.02 | SunTsu | I'd like to get one, too, but blizz shop only lets me buy with credit card, which I don't own - and don't want |
| 11:50.20 | nevcairiel | get a mobile authenticator then |
| 11:50.33 | olafski | you'd need a phone that supports it |
| 11:50.39 | Yivry | is there a mobile authenticator for android yet? |
| 11:50.43 | SunTsu | olafski: exactly |
| 11:50.46 | CrazyBenny | even my old motorola can run it :P |
| 11:50.52 | Grum | SunTsu: get someone else to buy it for you? |
| 11:50.59 | olafski | my nokia can't I think |
| 11:51.44 | nevcairiel | any phone that can run those java-for-mobile apps can run it |
| 11:51.50 | olafski | exactly |
| 11:51.51 | olafski | mine can't |
| 11:52.03 | olafski | I think I'd be more likely to lose my authenticator than have my password compromised :< |
| 11:52.22 | SunTsu | Grum: I'd probably buy a Nokia E71 next month, so mobile authenticator coming up next ;) |
| 11:55.35 | nevcairiel | You can run the j2me based authenticator on android if you use install the j2me environment, Yivry |
| 11:56.18 | nevcairiel | -use |
| 11:56.20 | olafski | why don't they just make a software version of it to un on your pc!: P |
| 11:56.22 | Bruners | getting hacked most likely means you have been dum enough to use any of the phising sites |
| 11:56.46 | Yivry | luckily "most likely" isnt always ;) |
| 11:56.51 | SunTsu | Bruners: or you trusted your AV software way too much |
| 11:57.54 | Bruners | i really doubt everyone getting hacked got a keylogger on their system and the only thing that got stolen was their wow account |
| 11:58.54 | SunTsu | Bruners: no, not everyone, of course, but as I said before, my ex guild leader had a malicious dll that did key logging |
| 11:59.52 | Bruners | and you did see this with your own eyes or something he told you ? |
| 12:02.48 | Bruners | i know of examples where people have been keylogged |
| 12:03.20 | SunTsu | Bruners: She told me, yeah. And I believe her, she normally knows what she is talking about. She caught xml_inc.dll and you may look that one up yourself |
| 12:03.30 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: how do you get the authenticator if your phone is not supported |
| 12:03.42 | [Ammo] | I have an SE X1 and I can't get it |
| 12:04.25 | nevcairiel | thats a windows mobile, isnt it? |
| 12:05.02 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:05.15 | [Ammo] | well it runs android as well, but that's slightly buggy still |
| 12:05.22 | orionshock | what's that one addon that simplifies recount spam into a simple link? |
| 12:05.31 | Yivry | spamagemeters |
| 12:05.37 | nevcairiel | http://deathcoil.net/authguide.html |
| 12:05.40 | Fisker | [Ammo] just get the .jar |
| 12:05.42 | Fisker | works fine |
| 12:05.43 | nevcairiel | guide to get it for windows mobile ^ |
| 12:06.55 | [Ammo] | hm nice |
| 12:06.57 | [Ammo] | neeeeds |
| 12:08.11 | nevcairiel | the guide also works for android, you just need to get the appropriate midlet manager |
| 12:08.26 | [Ammo] | I'll try getting it now |
| 12:08.27 | nevcairiel | (free in android market) |
| 12:09.48 | Bruners | SunTsu: and she doesn't know where and how she got it? |
| 12:11.10 | nevcairiel | usually its flash or IE exploits |
| 12:11.20 | SunTsu | Bruners: nope, not the slightest idea, she say she only uses that machine for playing WoW, visiting forums and such |
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| 12:13.20 | olafski | yivry: spamagemeters looks cool, cheers ,) |
| 12:13.32 | Yivry | 2 friends of mine made it :p |
| 12:14.06 | Yivry | (basically just for the free premium, but hey they seemed to get lots of people happy) |
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| 12:15.19 | olafski | ;) |
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| 12:23.56 | yoshimo | they underestimaded the amount of people using it i guess ;) |
| 12:24.43 | yoshimo | there is a rogue in my guild that brags with his dmg a lot, and spamagemeters keeps my chat readable^^ |
| 12:25.38 | asmodai | [Ammo_]: Using the SMS payment method? |
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| 12:25.39 | Grum | yoshimo: easier to just ignore the bloke :P |
| 12:28.05 | [Ammo] | asmodai: preferably |
| 12:28.41 | asmodai | [Ammo]: Sent my SMS in, waiting for a reply |
| 12:29.14 | [Ammo] | I went for lunch, just setting up the requirements now |
| 12:29.34 | yoshimo | indeed, i sometimes do it in teamspeak^^ his talking is too much sometimes.. |
| 12:29.58 | olafski | man if I started doing that I might as well not log into ventrilo ;p |
| 12:29.59 | asmodai | [Ammo]: Android as well? |
| 12:30.14 | olafski | 80% of the text said in ventrilo in the one raid I've been on with my new guild was BS |
| 12:30.25 | [Ammo] | windows mobile |
| 12:36.31 | evl | What stat could possibly trumph Agility? http://vitnavernd.rlr.is/tmp/IMG_0113.JPG |
| 12:37.24 | Kalroth | awility! |
| 12:37.25 | Bruners | "Spotify has been paused because your account is used somewhere else" ffffuuuuuu |
| 12:39.39 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Bowfisker <-my hunter lol'd all the way from VoA |
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| 12:40.29 | evl | felipe`: I didn't get it |
| 12:40.32 | evl | Fisker* |
| 12:40.39 | Fisker | Obtained [Windrunner's Legguards of Triumph]. (Equipped) 13 minutes ago |
| 12:40.39 | Fisker | Obtained [Windrunner's Handguards of Triumph]. (Equipped) 13 minutes ago |
| 12:40.39 | Fisker | 4 Koralon the Flame Watcher kills (Wintergrasp 25 player). 14 minutes ago |
| 12:40.51 | Fisker | GEDDIT?! |
| 12:40.53 | evl | Isn't that T9? |
| 12:41.06 | Fisker | yeah |
| 12:41.12 | evl | What's cool about T9? |
| 12:41.21 | Bruners | Fisker: stop using my account! |
| 12:41.31 | Fisker | evl what isn't cool about it? |
| 12:42.03 | evl | Fisker: damnit, I thought you had lots of T10 and you somehow secretly had unlocked new boss in VOA |
| 12:42.35 | Fisker | i made out with your mother |
| 12:42.54 | Fisker | it's my third alt so pretty happy with the 3 new pieces of gear i got :P |
| 12:43.24 | Fisker | just need the bow from ICC25 |
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| 12:44.11 | Megalon | ow |
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| 12:44.51 | [Ammo] | asmodai: its saying failed to install the midlet |
| 12:44.52 | [Ammo] | meh |
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| 12:46.43 | [Ammo] | didn't require the midlet |
| 12:46.51 | [Ammo] | it runs fine with the default java install on SE X1 |
| 12:46.53 | [Ammo] | \o/ |
| 12:50.15 | Fisker | old |
| 12:51.06 | asmodai | [Ammo]: So you got the SMS back? |
| 12:51.38 | [Ammo] | YEAH |
| 12:51.42 | [Ammo] | woops caps |
| 12:51.48 | [Ammo] | I sent an sms to 3555 |
| 12:51.50 | asmodai | mmm, wonder why I did not get it |
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| 12:51.54 | asmodai | [Ammo]: Yeah, same here |
| 12:51.54 | [Ammo] | with BMA5001 |
| 12:52.00 | [Ammo] | and I got the sms back instantly |
| 12:52.11 | [Ammo] | attached to my account |
| 12:52.14 | [Ammo] | now to try it out :) |
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| 12:55.09 | [Ammo] | well, that works :) |
| 12:55.18 | Fisker | it worked with no fooling around? |
| 12:56.39 | asmodai | Wonder why it's not sending any SMS back to my phone though. |
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| 13:04.04 | Fisker | i figured it was because it didn't support the phone |
| 13:04.21 | Fisker | When i tried to hax it i tried SMS which didn't work |
| 13:04.29 | Fisker | but then i paid over paypal lulz |
| 13:05.38 | evl | Tainting UnitAura, horrible/livable? I'd like to do some custom consolidation of buffs |
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| 13:06.14 | asmodai | Fisker: That would be silly, since SMS doesn't send along any phone details |
| 13:06.39 | evl | IT does send the number |
| 13:07.01 | evl | If you have access to a regular SMS gateway you could send a message from Santa Claus <911> |
| 13:07.43 | asmodai | number != phone details |
| 13:08.02 | Fisker | Well the carrier could easily pass along the info |
| 13:08.48 | Arrowmaster | the carriers themselves alter the info |
| 13:11.35 | Repo | 10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 * r46 Ammo-matique.lua: |
| 13:11.37 | Repo | * Fixed brokeness that was jamming up the choosing of low-grade ammo once |
| 13:11.38 | Repo | premium had been picked (bug introduced in 1.9beta1). |
| 13:11.51 | Repo | 10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 041.9beta3 * r47 : Tagging as 1.9beta3 |
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| 13:19.51 | yoshimo | can you seperate the chattext you get from changing talents from the one that occurs at login and tells you blizznews? |
| 13:20.26 | koaschten | wohoo snwoing again .... |
| 13:20.42 | nevcairiel | keep your snow up there! |
| 13:21.06 | yoshimo | its snowing here too, unfortunately |
| 13:21.16 | nevcairiel | here not, and i dont want it |
| 13:21.23 | nevcairiel | the snow from 3 weeks ago is still around |
| 13:22.34 | koaschten | i am glad we had one afternoon with positive temperatures, so i could flush the water on those cleaning noozles on my car to get antifreeze in the tubes... |
| 13:22.43 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:23.06 | koaschten | looking in the backyard there are ~30cm of snow |
| 13:23.41 | nevcairiel | our street is pure ice now, its no fun walking there, or driving, for that matter |
| 13:24.00 | koaschten | but hey, i am on semester break and no call back when to work from my regular semester break job on when to come in for work ^^ |
| 13:24.28 | koaschten | (this post was brought to you from the ministry of redundancy) |
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| 13:33.42 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I need some spikes for my shoes, too, our parking space is covered with a thick ice layer |
| 13:35.51 | Gagorian | I just ride my bicycle all winter, better traction than when walking |
| 13:36.20 | SunTsu | Gagorian: I refuse to buy a bike to get from my car to the door |
| 13:36.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:36.43 | nevcairiel | at least the way to the car is without ice now |
| 13:36.48 | nevcairiel | but the streets .. |
| 13:37.05 | nevcairiel | have to crawl until you reach one of the bigger streets thats actually without ice |
| 13:37.14 | SunTsu | streets are ice free actually |
| 13:37.39 | krka_ | my bike tires can't handle the icy roads here anyway :/ |
| 13:37.50 | nevcairiel | they ran out of salt a while ago =P |
| 13:37.56 | Gagorian | SunTsu: Well don't use the car at all! |
| 13:38.00 | Gagorian | :P |
| 13:38.05 | nevcairiel | wonder if they actually have new salt for the upcoming snow |
| 13:38.15 | SunTsu | Gagorian: yeah, and bike all 80km to my working place? ;) |
| 13:38.24 | Gagorian | Why not ;) |
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| 13:39.21 | Gagorian | Only like 3-4 hours |
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| 13:39.22 | Gagorian | Summertime probably under 3 |
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| 13:41.17 | SunTsu | Gagorian: yeah, sounds great, so only 8 hours of work and 8 hours of driving there and back ;) I can hold myself back barely ;) |
| 13:41.34 | sb|work | nevcairiel: tomorrow + weekend is going to be some snow fun :p |
| 13:41.49 | nevcairiel | and 8 hours sleep, day planned SunTsu |
| 13:42.17 | sb|work | fun as in lots of accidents, no chance ot get to work/university in < 2 hours etc. :p |
| 13:42.45 | nevcairiel | keep your snow in the south there! |
| 13:42.45 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: 8 hours of sleep? Who the hell even sleeps that long? |
| 13:43.06 | sb|work | nevcairiel: err we dont have any snow, i think its coming to you first :p |
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| 13:43.24 | sb|work | 8 hours of sleep? i dont even have time to sleep that long... :p |
| 13:43.30 | Fisker | sb|work |
| 13:43.31 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 13:43.36 | sb|work | okay |
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| 13:45.29 | Fisker | you better be ok with it |
| 13:46.46 | Yivry | argh! |
| 13:46.54 | Yivry | I cant get that damn thing to work |
| 13:49.16 | koaschten | nevcairiel want some? http://i47.tinypic.com/2m2yw6q.jpg |
| 13:51.27 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 13:51.38 | nevcairiel | engage heat shield, noaw! |
| 13:53.01 | koaschten | i am considering turning up the heater |
| 13:53.19 | koaschten | the radiator of my watercooling rig isnt putting out enough warm air to my feet :( |
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| 13:54.23 | koaschten | on a sidenote, the system is at 33°C under load, i really should turn up the heater ^^ |
| 13:55.40 | sb|work | koaschten: bah :p |
| 13:55.46 | sb|work | put it away ;) |
| 13:56.14 | koaschten | i guess i could see how far i could overclock under this conditions though |
| 13:56.14 | sb|work | http://neubau.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/neubau.jpg <-- its "okay" here :o |
| 13:56.43 | koaschten | no snow in the parking lot |
| 13:56.46 | koaschten | pussies :X |
| 13:56.54 | sb|work | ;) |
| 13:58.00 | Megalon | haha |
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| 13:58.04 | Megalon | yea, germans |
| 13:58.09 | Megalon | if snow > 1mm |
| 13:58.18 | Megalon | they call out state of emergency |
| 13:58.23 | Megalon | and everything stalls |
| 13:59.29 | SunTsu | Megalon: people forget how to drive if there is a white paper bag on the street |
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| 14:04.08 | SunTsu | koaschten: what kind of cpu is that? |
| 14:04.17 | koaschten | q9550 |
| 14:05.06 | SunTsu | ah, should be much room for overclocking, then |
| 14:05.06 | sb|work | koaschten: giev i9 nao :/ |
| 14:05.19 | sb|work | i don't want to get old i7 stuff ;) |
| 14:05.33 | koaschten | naah |
| 14:05.58 | koaschten | xeon, on this board: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bit-tech/all/~3/uXyXxzOUX4I/1 |
| 14:06.22 | sb|work | why xeon? i9 will be great... (i think... :p) |
| 14:06.57 | sb|work | do you need 20gb ram? :/ |
| 14:08.33 | nevcairiel | 24, clearly |
| 14:08.45 | nevcairiel | one gb per cpu thread with gulftowns :d |
| 14:08.46 | koaschten | probably not, but 12 real cores once the 6core xeons are out ! |
| 14:09.11 | koaschten | and obviously i need 7 fermi based gfx cards |
| 14:09.16 | sb|work | well, i9 will also be 6 cores, right? |
| 14:09.27 | koaschten | for true surround gaming on 3 30" screens |
| 14:09.32 | Fisker | naw sb|work |
| 14:09.56 | koaschten | sure, but i9 doesnt come with dual cpu board flavor |
| 14:10.02 | Fisker | i9 doesn't exist |
| 14:11.00 | sb|work | honestly, i dont know the difference betweek xeon (4 core/6 core) and i7/i9 :p |
| 14:11.17 | Fisker | i9 doesn't exist |
| 14:11.26 | sb|work | shut up Fisker |
| 14:11.35 | nevcairiel | xeons are basically the same, except that they have a second QPI link for multi-cpu systems |
| 14:11.41 | Pucmel | xeon is server branded isomething |
| 14:11.49 | Fisker | i9 doesn't exist sb|work |
| 14:11.49 | sb|work | and like +200 eur :p |
| 14:12.00 | Pucmel | nehalem based xeons i mean |
| 14:12.46 | Pucmel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_%28microarchitecture%29 |
| 14:13.11 | Fisker | hey sb|work |
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| 14:13.19 | Fisker | does the Intel Core i9 exist? |
| 14:13.23 | Pucmel | no |
| 14:13.34 | Pucmel | on the paper that is |
| 14:13.45 | nevcairiel | I still wonder what for anyone would buy this board |
| 14:14.08 | nevcairiel | If you need a server, you wouldnt buy this board |
| 14:14.09 | sb|work | big ramdisk :p |
| 14:14.24 | nevcairiel | If you need a high-performance desktop, it doesnt make much sense either |
| 14:14.41 | Pucmel | desktop and server workloads are ... ahem quite different |
| 14:15.32 | nevcairiel | having many threads on a gaming desktop doesnt make much sense, as the stuff isnt designed for that yet |
| 14:15.44 | nevcairiel | what can really use everything a i7 has to offer? |
| 14:15.54 | Pucmel | seti at home |
| 14:15.54 | krka_ | nevcairiel: why is it bad for a server? |
| 14:16.10 | nevcairiel | krka_: which server needs that many pci-express lanes? |
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| 14:16.28 | nevcairiel | unless you really want to build a GPGPU server |
| 14:16.33 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 14:16.33 | krka_ | good point i suppose |
| 14:16.38 | Fisker | there's also a thing called workstation |
| 14:16.41 | krka_ | unless you put other stuff than graphics on those |
| 14:16.46 | Fisker | and it doesn't matter if games support it or not anyways |
| 14:16.55 | Pucmel | well ... 10gbps nics ... 8gpbs fc hbas |
| 14:17.01 | Pucmel | put there a few |
| 14:17.29 | nevcairiel | Fisker: sure it does, if there is nothing that uses it, you dont have to buy it =P |
| 14:18.07 | nevcairiel | real server hardware is still mostly focused around pci-x .. pci-e is only slowly invading that sector |
| 14:18.07 | Fisker | Who said there was nothing that uses it? |
| 14:18.12 | Fisker | You said games don't use it |
| 14:18.14 | Fisker | But Windows do |
| 14:18.18 | Fisker | which in turn improve games as well |
| 14:18.41 | nevcairiel | I doubt that installing a second cpu will actually improve your performance in games |
| 14:18.43 | Pucmel | eh pci-x .... last time i saw it in new server was few years ago :) |
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| 14:20.59 | Fisker | Then that is because you do not know how a computer system works then nevcairiel |
| 14:21.11 | nevcairiel | I'm pretty sure i know more then you :P |
| 14:21.24 | Fisker | it doesn't appear that you do |
| 14:22.07 | arkanes | more games than used to leverage multithreading |
| 14:22.36 | arkanes | but as cost effective optimizations go, multicore isn't even close to MOAR RAM or a new graphics card or an SSD |
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| 14:23.18 | nevcairiel | ssds dont improve performance, they merely improve loading times .. they only improve performance if either the game sucks, or you need more ram |
| 14:23.29 | arkanes | loading time is, of course, performance |
| 14:23.48 | Fisker | or the game is big enough nevcairiel |
| 14:23.56 | Megalon | I like it when it only takes 2s for wow to present me the loginscreen |
| 14:23.59 | nevcairiel | then the game sucks for not coming in 64bit! |
| 14:24.09 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:24.17 | arkanes | nevcairiel is being a little disingenuous and saying that if you had enough ram to hold your entire system in phsyical ram, the SSD wouldn't matter |
| 14:24.20 | Megalon | instead of percieved 2mins |
| 14:24.42 | nevcairiel | You don't need the full system in ram, obviously |
| 14:24.47 | nevcairiel | but loading time is not performance |
| 14:24.54 | arkanes | of course it is |
| 14:24.58 | arkanes | don't be ridiculous |
| 14:25.07 | Megalon | loading time is annoyance |
| 14:25.11 | arkanes | FPS is what isn't performance |
| 14:25.13 | nevcairiel | and if a game has lower performance because it needs to load stuff *while playing*, it either needs a better pre-fetch tech, or it sucks in other ways |
| 14:25.21 | arkanes | and thats stupid also |
| 14:25.30 | arkanes | assets take a lot of ram |
| 14:25.34 | arkanes | er, memory |
| 14:25.34 | arkanes | space |
| 14:26.05 | arkanes | you can't fit an entire games worth of assets into the ram of any system you could buy today |
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| 14:26.33 | nevcairiel | How did i say entire game? |
| 14:26.35 | arkanes | and of course you can have extremely clever streaming and prefetching algorithms, but those are compromises for the performance of the system |
| 14:26.44 | nevcairiel | I just said it shouldnt lower performance because its not finished loading |
| 14:26.59 | Megalon | don't need much ram for that! |
| 14:27.00 | nevcairiel | it should be smart and know what to pre-load |
| 14:27.22 | arkanes | which is great and all, unless there's more to load than it can hold in memory |
| 14:27.46 | arkanes | and of course handwaving about "it should be smart" is hardly actually addressing the problem |
| 14:28.04 | Pucmel | its a fight ! |
| 14:28.09 | asmodai | Megalon: There's even content? |
| 14:28.14 | nevcairiel | If there really is a problem that it can't fit everything it currently needs into memory, its not designed for a current system |
| 14:28.25 | arkanes | that's bullshit |
| 14:28.42 | nevcairiel | If a game needs to load textures from hdd when i turn my character around, its a failed design |
| 14:29.06 | arkanes | whats that got to do with anythign? |
| 14:29.20 | Megalon | asmodai: it's all nil :( |
| 14:29.24 | arkanes | how about if it has to load a texture from a drive because an enemy spawned |
| 14:29.36 | arkanes | and now you're going to say that it should know the enemy is going to spawn, and preload it |
| 14:29.44 | asmodai | Megalon: Don't dereference him then |
| 14:29.47 | nevcairiel | Of course it should |
| 14:29.50 | arkanes | but that, of course, is the exact same problem - it cant render stuff thats not loaded |
| 14:30.01 | arkanes | so if it cant load fast enough, it cant render the enemy |
| 14:30.14 | arkanes | and therefore, the speed with whcih it can load textures affects the performance of the game |
| 14:30.17 | arkanes | qed |
| 14:30.49 | koaschten | 15:23
@nevcairiel: then the game sucks for not coming in 64bit! |
| 14:30.53 | nevcairiel | Your proof lacks, a game knows whats going to happen "soon" |
| 14:30.57 | koaschten | which reminds me off... |
| 14:31.01 | arkanes | nevcairiel: it doesn't matter |
| 14:31.08 | koaschten | where is my 64bit wow executable |
| 14:31.12 | arkanes | nevcairiel: I'm playing some FPS and the level designer wants to spawn 900 different enemies |
| 14:31.15 | koaschten | and why doesnt it have multi-threading! |
| 14:31.17 | arkanes | nevcairiel: it *cant* preload that many |
| 14:31.25 | arkanes | nevcairiel: so it can't spawn them all at once, end of story |
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| 14:31.38 | arkanes | nevcairiel: the performance of the system is limiting the capability of the game |
| 14:31.52 | arkanes | you're saying the HDD shouldn't matter because the game should be limited to doing things where the hdd doesn't matter |
| 14:31.56 | nevcairiel | If the 900 enemies are visible at the same time, it has to fit them in memory anyway |
| 14:32.09 | nevcairiel | if they are not, it can know which are going to be visible first |
| 14:32.14 | arkanes | no it really can't |
| 14:32.23 | arkanes | it can't know if I'm going to look right or left first |
| 14:32.40 | nevcairiel | [15:28:42] <nevcairiel> If a game needs to load textures from hdd when i turn my character around, its a failed design |
| 14:32.42 | arkanes | and besides, didn't you just say that it has to load it from disk when you turn around, it's stupid? |
| 14:33.03 | arkanes | anything that can be made immediately visible needs to be ready to be instantly rendered |
| 14:33.46 | nevcairiel | ready to be instantly rendered = not on hdd |
| 14:33.49 | arkanes | right |
| 14:33.49 | steev | ugh |
| 14:33.52 | steev | just got home |
| 14:34.14 | steev | had a datacenter move - left at 12:30 |
| 14:34.24 | evl | move it faster |
| 14:34.31 | arkanes | steev: :( |
| 14:34.41 | steev | evl: wasn't the move that was bad |
| 14:34.45 | nevcairiel | some people just have crap hdds, energy saving 5400's and stuff, you just can't rely on loading stuff from hdd in realtime if you want proper performance, is all i'm saying |
| 14:34.56 | steev | was the firewall and dns servers dying after they were put in the new racks that killed it |
| 14:34.56 | arkanes | of course you can't, because everyone doesn't have SSDs |
| 14:35.06 | krka_ | i love my energy saving harddrive filled with media :) |
| 14:35.10 | Repo | 10head-count: 03JerryBlade * r112 / (5 files in 2 directories): HeadCount: |
| 14:35.12 | Repo | - Added Aliases for Blood Princes Encounter |
| 14:35.12 | arkanes | that is why people who DO have them experience superior performance |
| 14:35.22 | nevcairiel | that doesnt make sense |
| 14:35.31 | nevcairiel | you say games don't rely on hdd's to be fast enough |
| 14:35.36 | nevcairiel | then how does a ssd boost performance? |
| 14:35.46 | arkanes | what? |
| 14:35.49 | evl | nevcairiel: like laptops, which need 5400 for battery performance / heat i gues |
| 14:36.00 | arkanes | They don't "relyon HDDs to be fast enough" by simply not being fast enough |
| 14:36.12 | arkanes | texture load times will slow down your performance |
| 14:36.19 | Xtek | Mornin' |
| 14:36.32 | arkanes | engine and level designers work hard to make that not happen, but it still does |
| 14:36.49 | arkanes | and the fact that they need to do that work is why we have load times and load screens, which is still, of course, performance |
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| 14:37.15 | nevcairiel | loading screens are annoying, but not directly related to the performance |
| 14:37.25 | arkanes | if you mean FPS you should say it |
| 14:37.35 | arkanes | because performance is a much broader word |
| 14:37.52 | steev | performance is all about perception |
| 14:38.03 | arkanes | and it's hard to understand how a mechanism that's specifically designed to allow the game to perform better is not related to "the performance" |
| 14:38.13 | evl | Does CHAT_MSG_ADDON affect performance? |
| 14:38.14 | Fisker | i'm sure combatlogging and chatlogging take some cycles as well |
| 14:38.15 | arkanes | if you didn't have the load screen, the performance would be shitty |
| 14:38.16 | evl | In any noticable way? |
| 14:38.31 | Yivry | argh stupid android app |
| 14:38.34 | arkanes | evl: if you send too many of them it can disconnect you |
| 14:38.44 | [Ammo] | evl: only if you have lots of listeners parsing the messages |
| 14:39.02 | Yivry | trying to get the blizz mobile authenticator on android using that website |
| 14:39.11 | [Ammo] | but the unfiltered combatlog is probably worse |
| 14:39.17 | Yivry | finally got it running after trying for well hours now |
| 14:39.41 | Yivry | get a parsing error while trying to "convert" the bma |
| 14:39.44 | arkanes | is there any real mechanical difference between the filtered and unfiltered combat log? |
| 14:39.53 | arkanes | or is it just that unfiltered is called more |
| 14:40.03 | [Ammo] | unfiltered has all the info |
| 14:40.10 | [Ammo] | filtered has the info you selected in your combatlogtab |
| 14:40.19 | arkanes | right, so there's more events |
| 14:40.50 | [Ammo] | or the same |
| 14:41.44 | nevcairiel | no addon should really ever use filtered |
| 14:41.54 | nevcairiel | unless it wants to display a combatlog or something |
| 14:42.04 | [Ammo] | unless they want to replace the default combatlog yeah |
| 14:47.50 | nevcairiel | koaschten: now it started snowing too :( |
| 14:47.59 | Thaoky | I have a doubt, does Blizzard allow the two guilds to have the exact same name on the same realm (one in each faction) ? |
| 14:48.11 | nevcairiel | no, of course not |
| 14:48.29 | Thaoky | that's what I thought, just wanted to be sure, thanks :) |
| 14:48.45 | evl | Do hunters gain anything from mangle? |
| 14:49.01 | krka_ | no, they lose hitpoints and start to bleed from it |
| 14:49.25 | krka_ | hunters generally dislike being mangled by druids |
| 14:49.52 | nevcairiel | i dont think hunters have bleed effects themself, do they? |
| 14:50.02 | koaschten | it started snowing even more here now :( |
| 14:50.10 | koaschten | recall that car from that photo earlier? |
| 14:50.15 | koaschten | i barely can see it anymore |
| 14:50.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:51.02 | nevcairiel | that means getting up a few minutes earlier tomorrow and shovling the snow away |
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| 14:55.13 | krka_ | seems like these are all bleed spells: http://www.wowhead.com/?spells&filter=me=15;cr=9:9:9;crs=8:6:10;crv=0:0:0;ma=1 |
| 14:55.33 | krka_ | so warrior, druid and rogue only |
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| 14:56.11 | Yivry | meh looks like I cant add an authenticator before the physical ones arrive :( |
| 14:57.14 | Fisker | why not? |
| 14:57.34 | *** part/#wowace Brandon_ (n=rbarreir@87-196-38-42.net.novis.pt) |
| 14:57.39 | Yivry | because the mobile one doesnt work (for me) on android |
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| 14:57.48 | Fisker | pwnt |
| 14:57.58 | Bribri | you could run it in a VM |
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| 14:59.35 | yoshimo | how about http://blog.kynox.org/?p=151 Blizzard Authenticator Emulator ? |
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| 15:01.14 | Bribri | you can just run the official blizzard java app with the sun java wireless toolkit (or any other java/phone emulator) |
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| 15:02.46 | Bribri | I think nihilum has a bundled package for doing just that as well |
| 15:03.17 | winkiller | I wonder what the sense is though |
| 15:03.36 | winkiller | defeating a keylogger by letting yet another 3rd party app run on your computer |
| 15:03.37 | winkiller | whee! |
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| 15:04.09 | Bribri | you don't have to run it on the computer you play wow with |
| 15:04.10 | winkiller | well, ok, I'd set up that software authenticator on my linux netbook |
| 15:04.26 | nevcairiel | I wonder when trojans start scanning for those emulators, get your authenticator serial, and have full access again ;) |
| 15:04.49 | winkiller | yeah, only sensible thing is putting it on another comp |
| 15:05.03 | Bribri | and you'd defeat non-keylogging account violations as well |
| 15:05.04 | winkiller | but hey, OF COURSE it makes sense to run a second comp for this. instead of using a key fob |
| 15:05.43 | winkiller | with java it may run on an android phone |
| 15:05.48 | winkiller | I'd agree with this |
| 15:05.48 | Bribri | nevcairiel: they need more than just the serial, they need the secondary hash along with it but yeah both are stored in plaintext |
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| 15:07.17 | Bribri | but anyway, people give out their account info, their guild websites get database info stolen and use the same info for everything, etc |
| 15:07.46 | nevcairiel | websites shall not save user passwords in plain text |
| 15:08.09 | nevcairiel | if they post their account details in the forum itself, its their own damn fault again |
| 15:08.30 | winkiller | o_O |
| 15:08.33 | winkiller | who would do that? |
| 15:09.04 | Bribri | not post it on the forum itself |
| 15:09.05 | Bribri | for example |
| 15:09.10 | nevcairiel | alot of people do that "Hey i won't be around today, can you login for <boss> and for <item>?" |
| 15:09.16 | Bribri | a while back eqdkp had a vulnerability that allowed full database dumps |
| 15:09.17 | winkiller | wow |
| 15:09.32 | winkiller | never seen anything like this in the few guilds I were in |
| 15:09.35 | nevcairiel | even eqdkp md5's passwords, afaik |
| 15:09.53 | Bribri | md5 is so not that secure, especially without a salt |
| 15:09.55 | winkiller | actually the only thing coming close is "hi, it's X on my wife's toon, need to craft" |
| 15:10.10 | nevcairiel | winkiller: well maybe not publicly, but at least in private message that happens |
| 15:10.24 | Bribri | how many md5 lookup databases are there on the web now? |
| 15:10.25 | winkiller | well, then I never noticed :P |
| 15:10.42 | winkiller | and after 1-2 years you can tell if people are at the keyboard themselves mostly |
| 15:10.42 | evl | loot council! yes! |
| 15:10.55 | winkiller | hm, anyway |
| 15:11.00 | winkiller | still no BMA app for android |
| 15:11.18 | Fisker | Blizzard are iphone fags |
| 15:11.46 | winkiller | I just wrote a python app to change file extension icons in the windows registry |
| 15:11.53 | Kalroth | is BMA different from BME? |
| 15:11.59 | winkiller | wtf is BME? |
| 15:12.07 | Fisker | iphone should be outlawed btw |
| 15:12.08 | winkiller | I only know BMI |
| 15:12.10 | SunTsu | winkiller: people that chat a lot can do that, other's prolly not |
| 15:12.15 | Kalroth | BME: Body Modification Ezine |
| 15:12.24 | winkiller | o_O |
| 15:12.31 | evl | Fisker: if you wanted to write something that biggest majority of your smartphone uses could enjoy, iPhone seems like a pretty good way to go |
| 15:12.43 | winkiller | iphone users suck |
| 15:12.59 | Kalroth | winkiller: it could be Methyl tert-butyl ether too |
| 15:13.06 | evl | seeing how many of them there are it would create an almost infinite vacuum if they all sucked |
| 15:13.23 | winkiller | I feel a slight breeze |
| 15:13.32 | winkiller | it's getting stronger on a daily basis |
| 15:13.45 | evl | because someone made a smart phone actual people can use |
| 15:15.08 | winkiller | it creates an aura of "oh look at my shiny new phone, I has an app.. oh sorry, what did you say?" |
| 15:15.19 | winkiller | and the vendor lock-in was pretty annoying |
| 15:15.30 | winkiller | the thing itself isn't so bad |
| 15:15.32 | evl | so was the initial DRM in itunes |
| 15:15.38 | winkiller | just the horrible, horrible hype |
| 15:15.45 | evl | but they shoehorned the record companies into opening up |
| 15:15.46 | winkiller | and apple in general |
| 15:15.55 | nevcairiel | I like how every iPhone user was defending apples obvious design flaws in the iPhone, and now they are going to fix exactly those in the next iPhone :P |
| 15:16.03 | Fisker | evl l2p imo |
| 15:16.15 | evl | I have a friend, he was going to call me but he's busy compiling the latest android kernel wtf it's a fucking phone |
| 15:16.32 | Fisker | so what? |
| 15:16.36 | winkiller | mine has no root yet :( |
| 15:16.43 | evl | I'm just saying some people like tinkering some people like using |
| 15:16.46 | nevcairiel | some people are just OCD to have to manually update their kernel all the time |
| 15:16.47 | evl | great there's products for everyone |
| 15:17.00 | Fisker | Android does both |
| 15:17.01 | nevcairiel | but you can "just use" Android as well, you dont have to tinker :P |
| 15:17.09 | evl | Android is probably great :) |
| 15:17.23 | winkiller | you don't "use" an iphone, you invent things to do because it can |
| 15:17.42 | winkiller | last time I saw someone just using google maps to find the way.. it's been a while |
| 15:17.47 | evl | i like the maps, I like how I can find a subway station in london in an app according to where I am |
| 15:17.51 | evl | practical things |
| 15:17.51 | winkiller | and he still got lost |
| 15:17.54 | evl | stuff that just isn't "an app" |
| 15:17.58 | arkanes | I use my iphone all the time :( |
| 15:18.19 | evl | yes there's 90% gimmick apps but the remaining 10% are actually pretty useful |
| 15:18.28 | arkanes | I have hardly any apps on it |
| 15:18.45 | arkanes | mines jailbroken and I have a couple of the banned ones |
| 15:18.45 | winkiller | see, I couldn't tether my android to a google account yet |
| 15:18.57 | arkanes | huh, I have my iphone attached to a google account |
| 15:18.58 | winkiller | atm I have a phone with as many features as an 6110 |
| 15:19.00 | winkiller | :) |
| 15:19.02 | arkanes | I GUESS I AM BETTER |
| 15:19.11 | nevcairiel | lets see, custom apps that i installed and use frequently .. eh .. not many |
| 15:19.13 | arkanes | *preen* |
| 15:19.22 | evl | nevcairiel: authenticator? :) |
| 15:19.27 | arkanes | also mine can make lightsaber noises |
| 15:19.29 | nevcairiel | no, i have a hw token |
| 15:19.38 | evl | so do I |
| 15:19.42 | winkiller | got the Tattoo/Click - that has the nasty bug that you can't connect to google if you don't do that during the initial setup |
| 15:19.54 | winkiller | and without root I can't export numbers and appointments now |
| 15:19.58 | evl | But I always have my phone, but I always kept forgetting that token when I was going to friends |
| 15:20.01 | nevcairiel | i have a app from my bank to check my balance |
| 15:20.06 | winkiller | so at some point it's jotting down and factory reset |
| 15:20.07 | winkiller | \o/ |
| 15:20.12 | nevcairiel | thats about all i use in custom apps |
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| 15:20.17 | nevcairiel | otherwise just browser, mail, maps |
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| 15:20.32 | nevcairiel | the google maps app is mighty powerful already |
| 15:21.14 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:21.18 | evl | Let's see what apps I have that I use: Google Docs offline (shopping etc), Spotify, Tweetie, Authetnicator, London City, London Tube, Time Out, Rent-a-bike Realtime, Real time public transport |
| 15:21.23 | Wobin | I use it for Stanza, Google Maps and Weather |
| 15:21.25 | Wobin | and that's about it |
| 15:21.33 | Wobin | oh and Authenticator |
| 15:21.47 | nevcairiel | i have another app that searches for specific places like public transport or restaurants in my area based on gps and all, but i only really used it on vacation last year :P |
| 15:22.00 | evl | google maps is godlike on vacation |
| 15:22.06 | Wobin | I've got one that lists all the resteraunts in the area that have health code violations =P |
| 15:22.08 | evl | plot in all the places you are going, directions hoooi |
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| 15:22.22 | Wobin | it's awesome to find out where to avoid =P |
| 15:22.27 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 15:22.41 | nevcairiel | mine pulls comments and ratings from some website |
| 15:22.46 | nevcairiel | its good |
| 15:23.13 | evl | oh |
| 15:23.18 | evl | I forgot Stachetastic |
| 15:23.22 | evl | Best app |
| 15:23.32 | Wobin | virtual mo'? |
| 15:23.37 | nevcairiel | i also have barcode reader, but i dont use it that often :d |
| 15:23.50 | arkanes | I have a thing called aroundme that lets me list stores near my location |
| 15:23.58 | evl | arkanes: eyes?! :D |
| 15:24.07 | arkanes | basically a front end on google maps, but it's handy |
| 15:24.14 | arkanes | evl: broader than that, obviously :P |
| 15:24.17 | evl | :D |
| 15:24.47 | Fisker | google maps > * |
| 15:24.50 | Fisker | also free gps |
| 15:24.50 | arkanes | oh, and I have a thing that will randomly choose a nearby restraunt |
| 15:24.51 | Fisker | bawww |
| 15:25.08 | arkanes | which is great when nobody will decide where we are going to eat |
| 15:25.18 | nevcairiel | they should really just unlock google maps navigation in europe already so i dont have to root and unlock myself |
| 15:25.37 | Fisker | licenses nevcairiel |
| 15:25.41 | winkiller | oh, HTC rocks |
| 15:25.42 | winkiller | * Software-Herunterladung |
| 15:25.51 | Fisker | probably going to be here soon though nevcairiel |
| 15:25.57 | Fisker | since the google cars are spreading |
| 15:25.58 | winkiller | (translate FAIL) |
| 15:26.17 | AckisWork | oh Fisker |
| 15:26.19 | AckisWork | you can talk here? |
| 15:26.31 | nevcairiel | Fisker: the cars have been driving around here for quite a while, still we have no street view due to privacy issues :D |
| 15:26.33 | Fisker | what country you from Ackis? |
| 15:26.40 | Fisker | just launched in dkdk |
| 15:26.50 | Ackis | I'm Canadian eh |
| 15:27.06 | nevcairiel | although i've personally never seen one |
| 15:27.09 | arkanes | nevcairiel: you mean turn-by-turn, or the pathfinding itself is turned off? |
| 15:27.13 | Wobin | They just unveiled a GoogleMaps Trike here |
| 15:27.19 | nevcairiel | turn by turn is off in europe |
| 15:27.27 | Wobin | they're going to Street View Taronga Zoo |
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| 15:27.30 | Wobin | it'll be awesome |
| 15:27.31 | arkanes | we don't have it on hte iphone, either :( |
| 15:27.45 | arkanes | because there's some stupid licensing deal with apple and at&t and garmin |
| 15:29.10 | Fisker | tep |
| 15:29.11 | Fisker | yep |
| 15:29.19 | Fisker | Google have to use their own map data |
| 15:29.34 | arkanes | oh google has plenty of map data |
| 15:29.57 | arkanes | and you can get directions, but the app won't update them in real time |
| 15:30.12 | Fisker | The mapdata isn't theirs |
| 15:30.14 | arkanes | of course its trivial to write a wrapper that does |
| 15:30.17 | nevcairiel | the turn by turn is really nice, especially because its free |
| 15:30.24 | Fisker | only in the US it's all theirs |
| 15:30.29 | Fisker | which is why they can enable it |
| 15:30.36 | arkanes | Fisker: I don't know about world wide, but the US map data is almost entirely googles own now |
| 15:30.45 | Fisker | exactly |
| 15:31.00 | arkanes | the point is that the maps *application* doesnt do turn by turn |
| 15:31.13 | arkanes | because of suckiness |
| 15:31.15 | Fisker | yep |
| 15:31.16 | Fisker | no |
| 15:31.19 | arkanes | yes |
| 15:31.27 | Fisker | no |
| 15:31.38 | arkanes | how can it not be because of suckiness :( |
| 15:31.38 | nevcairiel | he is talking about the iPhone app, which is fail anyway |
| 15:31.55 | Fisker | oh |
| 15:31.57 | nevcairiel | the android app has it just disabled on europe phones, and if you have a rooted phone, you can just enable it easily |
| 15:32.16 | nevcairiel | well easily, you just install a version that has it enabled :P |
| 15:32.30 | arkanes | mines jailbroken so I have a free GPS navigation app anyway of course |
| 15:34.40 | arkanes | I'm thinking about getting a nexus one |
| 15:35.41 | Fisker | we don't want your kind and so forth |
| 15:36.32 | arkanes | $529 :\ |
| 15:36.53 | arkanes | oh but no 3g |
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| 15:37.05 | arkanes | so not worth my time to get the unlocked one |
| 15:37.25 | nevcairiel | no 3g? what broken phones do they sell in the US? |
| 15:37.34 | Fisker | does have 3G |
| 15:37.40 | arkanes | I misspoke |
| 15:37.44 | Fisker | just only T-Mobile that uses the same baseband for their 3G |
| 15:37.47 | arkanes | wrong type of 3g, doesn't work with at&t |
| 15:37.59 | nevcairiel | the us is so broken |
| 15:38.01 | nevcairiel | i mean |
| 15:38.07 | nevcairiel | i can get a phone here, and it works with all providers |
| 15:38.07 | arkanes | yes it is |
| 15:38.28 | nevcairiel | i dont have to worry about GSM vs CDMA, or different types of UMTS |
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| 15:40.10 | Fisker | europe = win nevcairiel |
| 15:40.18 | arkanes | Fisker: you have a nexus? |
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| 15:43.25 | Fisker | yes |
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| 15:59.44 | nevcairiel | Hm damn, i have a problem .. i want to run two screens and a tv of one pc .. i guess i need a second card for that :( |
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| 16:00.11 | pentium166 | buy a new ati card :D |
| 16:00.19 | nevcairiel | i dont ever buy ati cards |
| 16:00.37 | nevcairiel | i mean the second card doesnt have to do much |
| 16:00.42 | Ackis | matrox cards were the shit |
| 16:01.10 | Fisker | new nvidia cards support it as well |
| 16:01.21 | nevcairiel | just show a 1920x1080 for a TV, preferably directly with a hdmi out, optionally with the option to stream sound through hdmi directly |
| 16:01.21 | Fisker | and since it's more of a driver issue it's probably going to be backwards compatible |
| 16:01.36 | nevcairiel | except i need 3 outs on my card, then :P |
| 16:01.42 | Fisker | LOL |
| 16:01.51 | Fisker | Looking for people to totc25 2 bosses down |
| 16:01.55 | Fisker | "which ones?" |
| 16:01.58 | Fisker | DERP DERP DERP |
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| 16:02.34 | pentium166 | i'd respond with broodlord and garr |
| 16:02.48 | nevcairiel | anyone ever used hdmi with sound on nvidia cards? i noticed there is a connector for the spdif out on the card.. does that actually work? |
| 16:03.17 | nevcairiel | i know ati instead installs a new sound device |
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| 16:03.55 | Fisker | well there's no output for it |
| 16:04.19 | nevcairiel | googling revealed that it should just work if i connect my spdif out to the card |
| 16:04.42 | Fisker | how do you transfer the audio then |
| 16:04.43 | Fisker | magic? |
| 16:04.48 | pentium166 | over hdmi? |
| 16:04.57 | nevcairiel | yeah, over hdmi :P |
| 16:05.08 | nevcairiel | sadly i have no hdmi audio device to test it |
| 16:05.12 | nevcairiel | but getting a tv soon |
| 16:05.18 | Fisker | but if you have a hdmi port your question is irrelevant |
| 16:05.47 | Fisker | what nvidia card has hdmi port anyway? |
| 16:06.08 | nevcairiel | i dont have a hdmi port, i just have dvi ports, but according to googling the hdmi converter that came with the card also managed to get the sound in there |
| 16:06.23 | nevcairiel | but there are nvidia cards with hdmi, fwiw |
| 16:06.36 | Fisker | i know but they're like low-range pos only for media pc's |
| 16:06.55 | nevcairiel | i could get one of those as second card just for tv output =P |
| 16:07.16 | nevcairiel | could recycle it when i decide to build a proper media pc at some point |
| 16:07.35 | Fisker | oh well wikipedia says you're right |
| 16:07.35 | Fisker | :O |
| 16:08.24 | Fisker | probably should take a look at that then |
| 16:10.33 | nevcairiel | I wonder how well windows handles playing on the main screen and playing full screen video on a second screen |
| 16:11.12 | pentium166 | youtube doesn't handle it very well because it's stupid :( |
| 16:11.21 | nevcairiel | i'm talking about real videos |
| 16:11.25 | nevcairiel | like blu rays |
| 16:11.27 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:11.32 | pentium166 | "oh, you clicked on another window? time to exit fullscreen!" |
| 16:11.53 | nevcairiel | yeah stuff like that |
| 16:12.29 | nevcairiel | i guess it would be easier to get a media pc for that, but i cant afford that right now :d |
| 16:13.20 | pentium166 | if you have two monitors right now you could check fairly easily, i think |
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| 16:14.04 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:32.25 | Ackis | anyone want to go to the store, buy some dr pepper that has the EA game codes on it, and trade me the codes for some points? :P |
| 16:32.59 | nevcairiel | they dont sell dr pepper around here :P |
| 16:33.09 | Ackis | US only :P |
| 16:33.47 | olafski | no dr pepper? |
| 16:33.48 | olafski | how do you get by |
| 16:34.08 | Megalon | by drinking things that taste good |
| 16:34.16 | Megalon | like |
| 16:34.17 | olafski | oh, clever! |
| 16:34.19 | Megalon | real beer |
| 16:34.29 | olafski | as opposed to dr pepper, which is fake beer? |
| 16:34.52 | olafski | I guess they share a major ingreidnet |
| 16:34.55 | olafski | ingredient* oops |
| 16:34.56 | Megalon | as opposed to any us beer |
| 16:35.12 | nevcairiel | dr pepper isnt really beer, though =P |
| 16:35.19 | olafski | indeed :P |
| 16:35.24 | olafski | oh we've got a beerlitist here :P |
| 16:35.56 | nevcairiel | but he is right, us beer is just crap |
| 16:36.09 | Megalon | well, if you read what i said |
| 16:36.20 | Megalon | you see that i never said dr pepper is beer :x |
| 16:36.29 | Mikk | nevcairiel: most countries brew crap beer, even |
| 16:36.40 | nevcairiel | your comments implied a comparison to drpepper, though |
| 16:36.45 | Megalon | is there even alcohol in us beers? |
| 16:37.08 | Fisker | get me some too Ackis |
| 16:37.16 | nevcairiel | Mikk: i usually only drink german or irish beer, anything else doesnt taste right :D |
| 16:37.16 | Fisker | oh awit |
| 16:37.19 | Fisker | wait* |
| 16:37.22 | Fisker | I have a PC Ackis |
| 16:37.25 | Fisker | you know what that means? |
| 16:37.29 | Mikk | nevcairiel: czhech |
| 16:37.54 | olafski | elitism I say nevcairiel :P |
| 16:38.04 | Megalon | Fisker, from your mouth that sounds like a STD |
| 16:38.06 | olafski | any "normal" beer I buy in a store works for me :P |
| 16:38.08 | nevcairiel | i'm german, not allowed to drink german beer? :P |
| 16:38.21 | olafski | you're allowed! :P |
| 16:38.21 | yoshimo | depends on the beer^^ |
| 16:38.43 | olafski | I'm dutch.. but I really don't have a problem with beers from any country I think |
| 16:38.46 | nevcairiel | becks, of course :P |
| 16:38.59 | Fisker | http://i50.tinypic.com/214plrl.jpg <-awww Ackis |
| 16:39.00 | Fisker | AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 16:39.02 | Fisker | also |
| 16:39.04 | Fisker | BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 16:39.26 | Stanzilla | http://www.bier-index.de/biere/images/products/konig-ludwig-dunkel/konig-ludwig-dunkel_3.jpg < best |
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| 16:39.50 | nevcairiel | i dunno, if i want something dark, i usually go for irish |
| 16:40.00 | olafski | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grolsch <-- :) |
| 16:40.18 | Ackis | Fisker: r u thomas? |
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| 16:42.04 | Megalon | once? |
| 16:42.09 | Megalon | once you go black, you never go back |
| 16:42.13 | Megalon | everyone knows that |
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| 16:48.01 | winkiller | ahaha, that's so awesome |
| 16:48.01 | winkiller | Finding yourself behind a little old lady in the Sainsbury?s check out queue, do you bounce up and down behind her yelling ?gogogogogo FOR FUCK?S SAKE!? |
| 16:48.01 | winkiller | No, you don?t. |
| 16:48.02 | Fisker | do you understand Ackis |
| 16:48.02 | Fisker | ? |
| 16:48.02 | winkiller | olafski: when I last had that I has such a huge headache them orning after |
| 16:48.02 | olafski | no problems here :) |
| 16:48.06 | Ackis | Fisker: it's the DLC for ME2 right? :P |
| 16:48.28 | winkiller | the case of reissdorf kölsch was ok. then the keg of other kölsch as well. but the case of grolsch after that.. HEADACHE |
| 16:48.46 | Fisker | yes Ackis |
| 16:49.11 | Ackis | so, what's your point? |
| 16:49.19 | Ackis | you don't have to validate against the EA servers? |
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| 16:49.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7107 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 16:49.52 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:49.57 | Repo | * Add in the raiding tips from Ensidia and Premonition. Still waiting on the submissions from stratfu.com, but I won't hold back any longer. |
| 16:49.59 | Repo | * Pass the current instance difficulty to OnEngage, since hard modes are toggleable per engage in ICC. |
| 16:50.00 | Fisker | we r evuul haxers |
| 16:50.18 | Ackis | why would you pirate ME2? |
| 16:50.19 | Fisker | i wont hold back either |
| 16:50.30 | Fisker | who said anything about pirating ME2 |
| 16:50.39 | Ackis | you did :P |
| 16:50.40 | Fisker | ? |
| 16:50.41 | Fisker | naw |
| 16:50.45 | Ackis | your screenshot :P |
| 16:50.51 | Fisker | naw |
| 16:52.36 | Fisker | man |
| 16:52.41 | Fisker | this server is stupid |
| 16:53.04 | Fisker | when people ask which bosses we killed in totc25 in response to "LFM TOTC25 2 bosses down" something is wrong |
| 16:53.25 | Fisker | But when people get summoned and say "Lol you already killed x bosses? I'm out of here" |
| 16:53.30 | SunTsu | Fisker: yeah, and it's - you? |
| 16:53.37 | Fisker | what the fuck is so hard to understand about "x bosses down" :( |
| 16:55.58 | yoshimo | fisker, people cant read^^ |
| 16:57.09 | SunTsu | Maybe they assumed that you skipped some bosses and went straight forAnub |
| 16:59.16 | yoshimo | how can you skip bosses in totc25?^^ |
| 16:59.25 | nevcairiel | you cannot |
| 16:59.31 | nevcairiel | but that doesnt stop people from assuming |
| 17:00.07 | yoshimo | people are stupid, especially in wow^... |
| 17:00.19 | winkiller | i hate the blizzard named to{crusader,champion} |
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| 17:01.24 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I know that it's not possible. They still might have assumed that in spite of common sense, though |
| 17:01.39 | nevcairiel | yeah thats what i mean |
| 17:02.04 | Repo | 10head-count: 03JerryBlade * r113 / (5 files in 2 directories): HeadCount: |
| 17:02.06 | Repo | - Fixed Blood Princes Issue |
| 17:02.07 | Repo | - Added Yell Trigger to Alias Mapping for Gunship Battle |
| 17:02.08 | Repo | - Cleaned out Non-Working Boss Kill Detections |
| 17:02.56 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1246 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:02.58 | Repo | - Added crit depression option to apply to melee type attacks calculated in the caster module |
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| 17:27.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03onyxmaster * r7108 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU spelling/capitalization |
| 17:27.21 | asmodai | sb|work: yo! |
| 17:28.12 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1247 / (6 files in 2 directories): - Patch 3.3.2 changes |
| 17:28.47 | sb|work | asmodai: what? :o |
| 17:29.44 | asmodai | sb|work: received it |
| 17:30.09 | sb|work | asmodai: hmm - have to check again, but i think i don't have it yet |
| 17:32.37 | asmodai | I did today I meant |
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| 17:36.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7109 Plugins/modules.xml: Enable the tip module. |
| 17:37.27 | sb|work | meh, maybe tomorrow... |
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| 18:13.11 | ckknight | iPodTouchPhonePadBook! |
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| 18:24.03 | sb|work | well its a big ipod, so whats the deal? :/ |
| 18:24.45 | ckknight | sb|work: it's like an iPod Touch |
| 18:24.47 | ckknight | but bigger |
| 18:24.58 | ckknight | pricewise, expect it to scale with size. |
| 18:25.52 | sb|work | yea, thats what i said... |
| 18:26.28 | sb|work | maybe nice for ebooks, email or mobile internet - but thats it :o |
| 18:27.08 | ckknight | no Flash |
| 18:27.23 | ckknight | despite my hatred for Flash, that's pretty necessary |
| 18:28.13 | sb|work | no flash? wtf |
| 18:28.20 | sb|work | its going to fail then :/ |
| 18:28.50 | sb|work | and only really usable with mobile flat |
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| 18:30.47 | Megalon | fail? |
| 18:30.55 | Megalon | it has an apple logo on the back/front |
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| 18:31.32 | sb|work | ah, right... |
| 18:31.35 | Megalon | they buy it to be hip and cool |
| 18:31.40 | Megalon | not to use it |
| 18:33.54 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r449 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update |
| 18:38.45 | Ackis | ckknight: they came out with the iPad, when's the iTampon coming out? :P |
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| 18:40.08 | nevcairiel | koaschten: we're at about 15cm new snow by now, its crazy :( |
| 18:40.23 | koaschten | we haave rain for 4 hours now |
| 18:40.26 | koaschten | awesome sliding outside |
| 18:40.35 | nevcairiel | its that warm up there? |
| 18:40.56 | nevcairiel | we're still at -6 or so |
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| 18:42.17 | koaschten | hoovering around 0°C |
| 18:42.46 | Ackis | it was -20 here this morning, haven't bothered checking lately |
| 18:43.39 | koaschten | well we started off with -7 and 5cm new snow in the morning and went to 0° and rain in the afternoon making traffic a mess |
| 18:43.56 | nevcairiel | the 15cm snow is making quite a mess as well |
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| 18:47.46 | Grum | gah! the +R shit is annoying when for some reason you do not have your right nick :) |
| 18:47.49 | Grum | Anyone know of any LDB plugin which can show some simple char stats? (spellpower/crit/haste etc?) |
| 18:48.35 | nevcairiel | i havent seen a drive by hit all day anyway |
| 18:48.41 | *** mode/#wowace [-R] by nevcairiel |
| 18:48.54 | Grum | the thing is, you cant change your nick while being on a channel with +R >< |
| 18:48.54 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.1.0.3 * r450 : Tagging as v4.1.0.3 |
| 18:48.59 | Grum | so you have to leave all those channels :D |
| 18:49.10 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1248 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 18:49.12 | nevcairiel | you could just register your fallback nick |
| 18:49.12 | Repo | - Altered Shield Slam diminishing returns formula for 3.3.2. Currently I'm assuming it's linear, but in reality it probably isn't. Until I get more information this will have to do. |
| 18:49.14 | Grum | anyhow, anyone got any 'stat' addon for LDB? |
| 18:49.17 | Grum | ah |
| 18:49.38 | nevcairiel | you can link multiple nicks to one account :d |
| 18:55.45 | pentium166 | you still have to leave channels to change to your normal nick though |
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| 18:56.42 | koaschten | grum you can identify using the registered nick + password |
| 18:56.57 | Grum | koaschten: yeah but some other fucktard takes my nick when i loose it |
| 18:56.58 | koaschten | . /msg nickserv identify nick password |
| 18:57.04 | Grum | so i kinda have to ghost first |
| 18:57.10 | Grum | but at that time i am already on the channel with a wrong nick |
| 18:57.15 | koaschten | no you can identify as yourself without changing nick |
| 18:57.19 | Grum | and i cant change the nick on a channel with +R |
| 18:57.26 | koaschten | and autoghost when you change nick after you authed |
| 18:57.35 | koaschten | you dont need to if you want to identify |
| 18:57.41 | koaschten | i used to register with daemona |
| 18:57.46 | koaschten | but run by koaschten |
| 18:58.02 | koaschten | i just identify with /msg nickserv identify daemona <password> |
| 18:58.04 | Grum | i dont want to autoghost |
| 18:59.31 | Grum | the whole problem lies in that the IRCD doesnt allow nickchanges on channels with +R; no idea if it is smart/integrated enough with nickserv to work :D |
| 18:59.55 | Primer | I say we boycott freeload! |
| 19:02.35 | Funkeh` | ckknight, is there curse maintenance work going on? Every addon page errors |
| 19:05.27 | Funkeh` | working now |
| 19:09.09 | nevcairiel | Grum: it only doesnt allow nick changes by people that are muted by it, too. so once you auth, you can nick change |
| 19:09.41 | Grum | will register later then :D |
| 19:09.43 | Grum | have to rename again =) |
| 19:13.02 | nevcairiel | the time it took to clean the whole drive way of the snow, there were about 1-2cm new snow at the end i started with, wtf |
| 19:14.37 | Repo | 10gridstatusfocus: 03chicogrande * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Initial revision |
| 19:14.54 | Pneumatus | nrgh, spamazlyer's sorting is weird :< |
| 19:15.49 | Fisker | hey vhaarr |
| 19:15.54 | Fisker | i want one of my tips in bigwigs :( |
| 19:16.37 | vhaarr | :P |
| 19:16.53 | vhaarr | perhaps I will accept it, you can't know until you submit it to me |
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| 19:19.10 | Pneumatus | does someone have to "announce" a tip, or are they displayed through some other mechanism? |
| 19:20.43 | Fisker | "Use addons to fake your GearScore and achievements" |
| 19:20.45 | Fisker | The moar you know |
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| 19:32.50 | olafski | nice.. joined a group for random dungeon, no more instances can be launched.. one by one everyone got bored of waiting and left, now I'm stuck with 8 minutes left of "you cannot queue for a new dungeon" :< |
| 19:33.26 | olafski | good tip fisker |
| 19:37.08 | Pneumatus | you should have just requeued for the same instance |
| 19:38.31 | olafski | I want a random though, specific instances don't give me a goodiebag :) |
| 19:39.29 | sb|work | meh, bought another game that i will play for like 1-2 weeks *head -> desk* :p |
| 19:39.41 | koaschten | for some reason i am absolutely not thrilled by the ipad :/ |
| 19:39.42 | sb|work | so is ME2 good? :p |
| 19:39.44 | koaschten | not for that price |
| 19:40.19 | koaschten | 499$ for an oversized ipod touch with a 130$ option for 3g |
| 19:40.25 | koaschten | at 16gb storage |
| 19:41.15 | durcyn | should've been 64gb |
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| 19:41.53 | koaschten | you can get 32 for 599 and 64 for 699 |
| 19:41.57 | olafski | sb|work: what's wrong with that? oO |
| 19:42.49 | sb|work | well its okay for a single player game i guess |
| 19:43.02 | durcyn | no, should've just been 64gb for $499, NAND flash is cheap. |
| 19:43.18 | olafski | yeah it's not bad |
| 19:48.49 | koaschten | well its 9.7" IPS |
| 19:48.53 | koaschten | someone gotta pay THAT ;) |
| 19:49.17 | durcyn | still, hard to shake the feeling they're subsidizing the 16gb with the $200 price jump to the 64 |
| 19:49.48 | NeoTron | sb|work: I think it's good but it's a different game really. I find that the gear/loot aspect is almost missing |
| 19:50.02 | NeoTron | so it's more of a shooter with abilities than an rpg. this isn't necessarily bad |
| 19:51.26 | NeoTron | durcyn: which is pretty clever |
| 19:51.54 | durcyn | clever? even selling a 16gb model is disengenuous |
| 19:52.22 | durcyn | unless they're offering cloud storage for content |
| 19:52.27 | NeoTron | it's likely sufficient for 95% of the users that'll buy it |
| 19:52.40 | NeoTron | I mean my 16 GB iphone has like 80% or more free :P |
| 19:55.46 | olafski | neotron: which game was he talking about then? ,) oh. ME2 blegh |
| 19:57.37 | durcyn | as action rpgs go, it's good, but you're right about the first game having more rpg than the second |
| 19:57.46 | durcyn | the only thing i outright hate is the new ammo system |
| 19:57.51 | arkanes | durcyn: the new iWork has cloud storage stuff |
| 19:58.07 | durcyn | arkanes: i'm thinking epub books, what size do they clock in at currently>? |
| 19:58.10 | arkanes | durcyn: ME2? Yeah I hate the ammo system too |
| 19:58.22 | durcyn | also, do you have to pay for MobileMe to get said cloud storage? |
| 19:58.31 | arkanes | durcyn: it'll depend on the format, but small. 10s of MB |
| 19:58.35 | arkanes | durcyn: I don't know they details |
| 19:59.33 | NeoTron | ammo is kind of annoying since I can't just use my preferred weapon |
| 19:59.48 | NeoTron | also you there are no weapon skills so fighting is entirely skill rather than having an rpg aspect |
| 19:59.49 | durcyn | what was the retcon for the ammo change anyway? i get simplifying armor/weaponry, but "hey we went from these cool guns that fabricated their own ammo on demand with element zero" to "oh by the way you have to scrounge these heatsinks from dead enemies" |
| 19:59.59 | NeoTron | I initially thought it was just heavy weapons that had ammo |
| 20:00.23 | arkanes | durcyn: the new clips let you keep from being rate-limited when you fire |
| 20:00.26 | NeoTron | the unlimited ammo + heat consideration was more interesting (and unique) than infinite ammo |
| 20:00.37 | durcyn | and seriously, limiting ammo on the sniper rifle to discourage using it? fucking balls to that, i did an entire playthrough of ME1 with nothing but headshots |
| 20:00.43 | arkanes | I don't like the de-empahasis on skills |
| 20:00.49 | durcyn | arkanes: overheating was actually a great mechanic |
| 20:00.56 | arkanes | durcyn: yeah I really preferred that in ME1 |
| 20:01.26 | arkanes | durcyn: and I dont like how there's only like 7 skills total or whatever. Ammo being a skill is a little interesting, and I do like the greater utility of biotics, but eh |
| 20:01.51 | durcyn | arkanes: you can train henchmen loyalty skills for 5000 ezo later on, so there's that |
| 20:01.59 | arkanes | durcyn: even including those |
| 20:02.11 | durcyn | and don't forget the level 4 specializations |
| 20:02.20 | durcyn | because choosing between increased damage and AOE is so, uh, novel. |
| 20:02.20 | arkanes | the new hacking is much better though, I like not having an inventory and navigating the normandy is way nicer |
| 20:02.38 | durcyn | yeah, no more Elevator Simulator |
| 20:02.44 | durcyn | so there's that, at least |
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| 20:03.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 20:03.11 | arkanes | durcyn: did you do a gamestop preorder? |
| 20:03.19 | durcyn | hell no. steam 4 lyfe. |
| 20:03.24 | arkanes | hmph |
| 20:03.25 | *** join/#wowace Groktard (n=rg@c-98-192-171-122.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:03.34 | arkanes | I think I got gypped out of my special exclusive DLC |
| 20:03.41 | arkanes | not that I care a lot, but still |
| 20:03.45 | durcyn | gypped? |
| 20:03.49 | arkanes | robbed |
| 20:03.55 | durcyn | you have to put the keys into social.bioware.com and download the installer for it |
| 20:03.59 | arkanes | it's really a racial slur, I suppose I shouldn't use it |
| 20:04.01 | durcyn | it's not automatic like DA:o |
| 20:04.07 | arkanes | yeah, I didn't get a key |
| 20:04.21 | durcyn | should've at least gotten a cerberus key |
| 20:04.22 | arkanes | there were 2 cards in the game box for the unlocking the cerebus network thing |
| 20:04.28 | arkanes | but none for the gamestop stuff |
| 20:04.31 | durcyn | oh, yeah, you got fucked |
| 20:04.44 | arkanes | I'm trying to decide if I care enough to drive over there |
| 20:04.50 | durcyn | call 'em? |
| 20:05.18 | Fisker | how can they fail like that durcyn ? |
| 20:05.24 | arkanes | on the other hand, that cerebus unlock card is worth 15 bucks :P |
| 20:05.30 | durcyn | anyway, what it boils down to, is i really don't like the oversimplification of ME2 or the excessive micromanagement in Dragon Age, i just wish they'd meet in the middle like NWN again :( |
| 20:05.41 | durcyn | henchmen that actually have non-retarded AI would be nice |
| 20:05.51 | arkanes | man |
| 20:05.53 | durcyn | and maybe more than one of a particular type of weapon i can play with, oh please? |
| 20:06.08 | arkanes | durcyn: its even worse with the limited ammo now |
| 20:06.25 | arkanes | durcyn: in ME 1, having a squadmate jump into your sniper shot was only somewhat annoying |
| 20:06.37 | durcyn | it hasn't been -terrible- on my infiltrator, because i can least get headshots with my pistol after i use all _10_ of my sniper rifle shots |
| 20:06.49 | durcyn | but yeah, moar clips please? those heatsinks can't be that heavy |
| 20:07.21 | arkanes | yeah they want you to diversify |
| 20:07.32 | arkanes | I suppose that makes some sort of sense form some perspective |
| 20:07.45 | Fisker | s/diversify/be a soldier/ |
| 20:07.46 | Fisker | fixed |
| 20:07.49 | durcyn | "stop doing what you're good at and spray the room with your submachine gun" |
| 20:07.53 | durcyn | yeah, no. |
| 20:08.02 | arkanes | notice that your squadmates don't have ammo restrictions? |
| 20:08.09 | Fisker | duh |
| 20:08.12 | Fisker | it's a console game |
| 20:08.26 | Fisker | if it had that, all magazines would be rating it 1/10 |
| 20:08.30 | Fisker | OMG BIOWARE PLZ |
| 20:08.45 | durcyn | you know, it is probably meant to encourage power use, come to think of it |
| 20:09.04 | durcyn | and one-shotting motherfuckers with Heavy Incinerate is disturbingly satisfying |
| 20:09.08 | arkanes | and powers recharge way faster and are generally more cooler than in ME1 |
| 20:09.13 | arkanes | yeah I use incinerate a ton |
| 20:09.20 | arkanes | also it can shoot around corners |
| 20:09.24 | durcyn | they only recharge faster because of the shared cooldown, though |
| 20:09.29 | durcyn | same net result |
| 20:09.44 | arkanes | well tactical cloak is pretty meh |
| 20:09.57 | arkanes | so i don't have much to do except set people on fire |
| 20:09.59 | durcyn | yeah, i need to re-train and get rid of that gobshite |
| 20:10.10 | durcyn | even fully upgraded it's only what, 10 seconds? |
| 20:10.16 | arkanes | I use it if I'm under fire to make a teammate take the shots for me instead |
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| 20:10.56 | durcyn | heh, yeah, i got miranda killed doing that against a geth turret, it was great |
| 20:15.15 | Fisker | oh nos |
| 20:15.24 | durcyn | i wish i could get fisker killed |
| 20:15.46 | Fisker | i wish those guys responsible for our public transportation cards also were responsible for credit cards |
| 20:15.49 | Fisker | free money, please. |
| 20:18.22 | durcyn | asmodai: wait, whom |
| 20:18.26 | Fisker | agreed durcyn? |
| 20:18.47 | durcyn | you ride the bus |
| 20:19.15 | Fisker | no durcyn |
| 20:19.24 | durcyn | yes fisker |
| 20:19.25 | durcyn | yes |
| 20:19.53 | Fisker | no durcyn |
| 20:19.53 | Fisker | no. |
| 20:19.57 | arkanes | megashark vs giant octopus is a really, really, really bad movie |
| 20:20.00 | Fisker | but it's nice durcyn |
| 20:20.13 | durcyn | arkanes: Shark Attack 3: Megalodon. |
| 20:20.21 | arkanes | durcyn: thats up next |
| 20:20.35 | Fisker | they designed a plastic card that you can use for public transportation, i.e. kinda like a creditcard, just for public transportation |
| 20:20.40 | durcyn | "yeah, me too, but i'm really wired... whaddya say i take you home and eat your pussy?" |
| 20:20.40 | Grum | ~seen zeksie |
| 20:20.44 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 42d 20h 52m 17s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'. |
| 20:20.44 | Grum | mmm |
| 20:20.45 | durcyn | worst. line. ever. |
| 20:20.46 | Fisker | But these geniuses made it so you can hack the card and put money on it |
| 20:20.48 | Fisker | hohohoho |
| 20:20.56 | durcyn | wait |
| 20:21.02 | durcyn | the total is kept ON THE CARD? |
| 20:21.08 | Fisker | apparently |
| 20:21.17 | durcyn | or are they just changing it to someone else's number |
| 20:21.18 | olafski | as is normal with chip cards |
| 20:21.30 | Fisker | nope durcyn |
| 20:21.34 | asmodai | Fisker: Sounds like our card |
| 20:21.41 | arkanes | thats not an uncommon way to do things |
| 20:21.42 | asmodai | Fisker: you guys bought it from us? |
| 20:21.45 | olafski | ours too asmodai ;) |
| 20:21.50 | Fisker | heh asmodai |
| 20:21.54 | asmodai | >_< |
| 20:21.55 | Fisker | they actually referenced netherlands |
| 20:21.59 | Fisker | as having done the same mistake in 2007 |
| 20:22.05 | olafski | aye we did |
| 20:22.06 | asmodai | Ours uses that bloody Mirage chip or what's its name |
| 20:22.06 | durcyn | silly europeans |
| 20:22.08 | olafski | now we have a NEW system |
| 20:22.09 | Fisker | and arkanes are you batshit insane? |
| 20:22.12 | olafski | that still sucks monkeyballs |
| 20:22.12 | arkanes | to do anything else you need a network of all the busses and terminals, and all the infrastructure and errors those apply |
| 20:22.26 | durcyn | uh, no you don't |
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| 20:22.30 | arkanes | Fisker: it's actually a reasonable tradeoff |
| 20:22.36 | durcyn | you capture the number and pass it off for billing later, it doesn't have to be real-time |
| 20:22.47 | nevcairiel | then they can overcharge the card |
| 20:22.47 | arkanes | that's even worse |
| 20:22.50 | arkanes | and yes, that |
| 20:22.57 | olafski | we have pre-paid cards for public transport too |
| 20:22.58 | NeoTron | these are prepaid, not paid after the fact |
| 20:23.01 | Fisker | wooptie doo they overcharged 50 cents |
| 20:23.13 | Fisker | besides even busses have internet now |
| 20:23.17 | Fisker | so i don't see the issue |
| 20:23.23 | durcyn | if it's good enough for toll tags, i don't see how it's not good enough for busses |
| 20:23.23 | arkanes | well I tell you what |
| 20:23.36 | olafski | you design a better system and get rich! |
| 20:23.36 | arkanes | you go ahead and get yourself put in charge of the bus system, and see how muhc everyone likes your system |
| 20:23.54 | arkanes | durcyn: toll booths are stationary locations with wiring and other such things |
| 20:23.57 | durcyn | no thanks, your continent has french people on it |
| 20:24.03 | Fisker | arkanes maybe you don't understand |
| 20:24.06 | arkanes | durcyn: it's not hard to put connectivity to the toll booths |
| 20:24.09 | arkanes | Fisker: I bet I do |
| 20:24.10 | Fisker | every freaking station will have a billion of those terminals |
| 20:24.19 | Fisker | put in the ground |
| 20:24.32 | arkanes | Fisker: since I use to work for a mass transit system, with little prepaid cards that had the balance kept on them |
| 20:24.32 | Fisker | stops which doesn't have stations will rely on the ones in the bus |
| 20:24.50 | arkanes | and yes, the cards can be hacked and faked |
| 20:25.06 | olafski | I would like a hack that makes the system not suck :( |
| 20:25.16 | Fisker | keeping the balance on the card is still totally unnessecary |
| 20:25.24 | arkanes | it's not like people haven't been getting free bus rides since there were busses |
| 20:25.37 | arkanes | the system accepts fraud in the interest of existing at all, much less usability |
| 20:25.56 | arkanes | when they had the coin slot things people used slugs |
| 20:26.12 | olafski | wouldn't it be nice if I checked in in a bus and would have to wait 5 seconds while my card was being verified? ;) |
| 20:26.12 | arkanes | when it was all on the driver, people traded passes or friends of the driver got free rides |
| 20:26.15 | nevcairiel | we just have people pay for tickets with money or the already establish EC cards everyone here has anyway =P |
| 20:26.33 | arkanes | and in our system, the cards are dirt cheap little paper things with a magstripe |
| 20:26.33 | Fisker | olafski you don't have to wait 5 seconds |
| 20:26.35 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r185 / (2 files in 1 directory): -experimental! careful if you use this version |
| 20:26.37 | Repo | -remove Readiness comms, pure combat log detection |
| 20:26.38 | Repo | -this is untested and highly experimental |
| 20:26.41 | olafski | fisker: indeed, because the money is stored on the card |
| 20:26.48 | olafski | what if the bus's internet connection doesn't work? |
| 20:26.54 | olafski | fallback to the "bill later" option? |
| 20:26.54 | Fisker | it doesn't have to |
| 20:26.59 | arkanes | they cost nothing and they only cary small balances, whcih is way better than having to try to pass out smart cards to everyone who rides a subway or bus |
| 20:26.59 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:27.01 | olafski | seems like a lot of extra work |
| 20:27.10 | arkanes | its a ton of extra work |
| 20:27.18 | Fisker | if you do something, do it properly |
| 20:27.27 | arkanes | and "bill later" of course still doesn't work, because then you need accoutns and account management and all that shit |
| 20:27.29 | olafski | the current solution works and as long as a small percentage of the people rides for free it's fine |
| 20:27.34 | arkanes | Fisker: well your solution sucks even more |
| 20:27.38 | Fisker | how so? |
| 20:27.44 | olafski | that's been explained several times now :P |
| 20:27.44 | nevcairiel | I dont think i know any city in germany that uses such a complicated system, why not just pay with money or already established electronic cash systems? =P |
| 20:28.02 | olafski | no clue nevcairiel.. the new system in holland sucks, but I think it is to make throughput quicker or something |
| 20:28.07 | NeoTron | so yeah. iPad @ youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:28.09 | Fisker | not other than you seem to try and suggest that it's impossible |
| 20:28.12 | Fisker | how is it in reality worse |
| 20:28.15 | olafski | so that people enter a bus and sit down right away rather than pay with coins |
| 20:28.21 | arkanes | Fisker: I just gave you a bunch of failure cases |
| 20:28.25 | arkanes | Fisker: and problems with it |
| 20:28.33 | olafski | asmodai: nice :P which city was that again, rotterdam? |
| 20:28.34 | asmodai | apparently in about 1-2 weeks we'll switch completely to the card |
| 20:28.36 | asmodai | Aye |
| 20:28.43 | arkanes | Fisker: the system they actually used, and that pretty much everyone else in the world uses, doesn't have that failure case at the cost of a small amount of fraud |
| 20:28.44 | olafski | so you can't use the paper tickets anymore? |
| 20:28.49 | asmodai | Nope |
| 20:28.53 | arkanes | Fisker: fraud that is going to happen anyway |
| 20:28.55 | olafski | ack |
| 20:28.56 | asmodai | Metro was already like that |
| 20:28.56 | nevcairiel | olafski: i dunno, i rarely see people pay for a ticket in bus, most people just have tickets, or get them at the bigger stations |
| 20:28.58 | asmodai | Now tram and bus too |
| 20:29.04 | olafski | I really hate this new system asmodai :P so much confusion about it |
| 20:29.15 | asmodai | It works decently well to be honest. |
| 20:29.19 | asmodai | People are just tools |
| 20:29.20 | arkanes | Fisker: so you can see how, given X amount of fraud or X amount of fraud + hugely more expensive and failure prone system, they chose option A |
| 20:29.23 | asmodai | And change is hard. |
| 20:29.29 | olafski | asmodai: what if I go from my town to rotterdam and back on a single day |
| 20:29.32 | asmodai | But they also fucked up some things. |
| 20:29.34 | olafski | you'd expect I get billed for a "return ticket" |
| 20:29.39 | olafski | but no.. it's two oneway tickets |
| 20:29.53 | asmodai | Yeah, there's some idiocy in the pricing. |
| 20:29.55 | arkanes | return tickets are terrible things |
| 20:30.09 | arkanes | nobody actually has them anymore |
| 20:30.12 | olafski | there's also a time component in it.. from the central station to the university differs in price each day here, depending how fast the bus drives |
| 20:30.16 | olafski | arkanes: sure, but the dutch were used to them |
| 20:30.23 | olafski | arkanes: now we have to pay 25% extra all of a sudden |
| 20:30.26 | Fisker | you mean X amount of fraud or Y amount of fraud + an undetermined more expensive solution |
| 20:30.27 | arkanes | I work (now) for an airline |
| 20:30.31 | olafski | eh.. 33% |
| 20:30.48 | arkanes | Fisker: Lets just say I'm really glad you're not in charge |
| 20:30.59 | olafski | heh.. we can say that about a lot of things ;) |
| 20:31.00 | Lysithea | . |
| 20:31.08 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r334 modules (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:31.09 | durcyn | ad hominem solves all arguments, arkanes |
| 20:31.10 | Repo | Fix Status that where incorrectly expecting a unit from RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 20:31.12 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 20:31.13 | arkanes | Fisker: there's no promise that your system would actually prevent any fraud, since it's vulnerable in several other ways |
| 20:31.20 | Lysithea | anyone happen to know a macro to press the lfg dungeon button? |
| 20:31.23 | arkanes | durcyn: there's nothing ad hominem about that |
| 20:31.27 | Fisker | yes there is |
| 20:31.35 | nevcairiel | I still stick by my opinion that the old paper tickets just work fine |
| 20:31.37 | olafski | not exactly |
| 20:31.39 | Fisker | What several other vulnerabilities are there |
| 20:31.41 | olafski | he dislikes your solution, not you personally |
| 20:31.43 | Lysithea | additional instances message and clicking that button is starting to annoy me |
| 20:31.47 | nevcairiel | if you're in a rush you can even buy tickets through your mobile phone, fwiw |
| 20:31.50 | durcyn | no, i was being sincere |
| 20:31.52 | olafski | nevcairiel: agreed ,) but I think all of holland will soon switch |
| 20:31.58 | durcyn | hating fisker means you're probably correct |
| 20:32.04 | olafski | haha |
| 20:32.18 | asmodai | Having been to Japan quite some times I love their system. |
| 20:32.24 | olafski | nevcairiel: that's nice tho :) |
| 20:32.26 | asmodai | Would never work in NL and many other European countrie.s |
| 20:32.35 | asmodai | People nowadays lack the proper respect. |
| 20:32.40 | durcyn | what, the cell phone payments? |
| 20:32.43 | olafski | asmodai: if your card has too little cash on it, can you still pay in the bus? |
| 20:32.48 | Pneumatus | haha, 8.1k tick on 2pc t10 holy bonus |
| 20:32.52 | asmodai | Dunno, hardly ever use it |
| 20:33.08 | arkanes | olafski: the reason for all these electronic systems is really to get cash off the busses |
| 20:33.08 | Fisker | rabble rabble rabble |
| 20:33.14 | olafski | just wondering, if they don't use the paper tickets anymore |
| 20:33.17 | arkanes | olafski: they were common theft targets |
| 20:33.21 | olafski | do I have to visit a store before I can take the bus? >_< |
| 20:33.22 | nevcairiel | those card systems seem terribly confusing for a tourist that just needs one ticket or something |
| 20:33.29 | asmodai | nevcairiel: That be true |
| 20:33.33 | olafski | yer |
| 20:33.37 | arkanes | people manage in new york really easily |
| 20:33.53 | arkanes | you got an ATM style machine, you put in a card, you get out a slip of paper with 10 bucks or whatever on it |
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| 20:34.06 | durcyn | or just hop the turnstyle, either/or |
| 20:34.13 | arkanes | well tourists don't do that :P |
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| 20:34.23 | olafski | what be a turnstyle :( |
| 20:34.28 | nevcairiel | oh right, in the US they actually have turnstyles to check tickets |
| 20:34.40 | arkanes | nevcairiel: depends on the location |
| 20:34.53 | nevcairiel | here they just randomly check in trains |
| 20:35.04 | nevcairiel | i've actually never seen a check in a bus, fwiw |
| 20:35.08 | arkanes | nevcairiel: commuter rail has conductors that take tickets on the journey |
| 20:35.22 | arkanes | the subway has turnstiles and no conductors |
| 20:35.37 | olafski | oh that's a turnstyle |
| 20:35.41 | Torhal | Shadowed: Why do some people who are new to writing AddOns decide, after being repeatedly shown that they are pretty damn clueless, that they need to "write a library to make your life easier!" which in all actually is a heaping pile of inefficient and ill-devised shit? |
| 20:35.49 | Shadowed | I hate them |
| 20:35.49 | Torhal | ... |
| 20:35.50 | arkanes | long bus trips, like greyhound and stuff have conductors to |
| 20:35.52 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.58 | Shadowed | Nightcracker is the worst |
| 20:36.00 | Torhal | Yes |
| 20:36.07 | Shadowed | He's only like 12, so I feel bad. But he really is delusional when it comes to this |
| 20:36.07 | nevcairiel | our subway has neither turnstyles nor real "conductors", randomly people come in and check |
| 20:36.17 | arkanes | nevcairiel: odd |
| 20:36.24 | Torhal | I've told him on more than one occasion that he was not only wrong, but grossly so and he trudges on like he knows everything |
| 20:36.31 | arkanes | the random people would be what we call conductors I'm sure |
| 20:36.34 | durcyn | Torhal: with the increasing popularity of an activity, also increases the amount of human stupidity applied to it, you see |
| 20:36.34 | olafski | nevcairiel: they use that in trams here too I think |
| 20:36.37 | olafski | some trams anyway |
| 20:36.51 | Torhal | durcyn: Is that why jackass was a popular show? |
| 20:37.07 | arkanes | nevcairiel: many of our subway hops are only 5 minutes, or less |
| 20:37.09 | nevcairiel | i dunno, when i think about a conductor, i think about a permanent presence, like on real trains |
| 20:37.10 | durcyn | think of it like this |
| 20:37.11 | Shefki | Just let them write their libraries and don't bother them. Who are they hurting? Nobody is going to use the library but themselves anyway. |
| 20:37.17 | arkanes | nevcairiel: does that imply that nobody bothers to check on those short hops? |
| 20:37.18 | durcyn | out of any given population, 50% are below average |
| 20:37.20 | Shadowed | Shefki: Did you see what he wanted to do? |
| 20:37.26 | Shadowed | He wants to attach a metatable to every UIObject |
| 20:37.35 | Shefki | Every? |
| 20:37.36 | Shadowed | in the library |
| 20:37.37 | Shadowed | yes |
| 20:37.44 | Shadowed | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=176355 |
| 20:37.45 | olafski | shadowed: but if nobody uses it what's the problem :( |
| 20:37.52 | Shefki | WTH for? |
| 20:37.57 | Shadowed | exactly |
| 20:38.01 | Shadowed | That's what's stupid |
| 20:38.03 | Torhal | olafski: The problem is, someone will think "make my life easier? YAY!" |
| 20:38.12 | nevcairiel | arkanes: our subway is split in relatively small cars, they come in with usually 3 people or so, that manage to check one car in those small stops .. and yeah, they are pretty short too, 5 min would actually be long :P |
| 20:38.14 | arkanes | he's adding functions to widgets, apparently |
| 20:38.36 | Torhal | And the AddOn that uses it will most likely become extremely popular. That seems to be the pattern. Very bad code = Godlike popularity |
| 20:38.37 | asmodai | Jesus, didn't know that old WoW had 5 rested levels. I knew you had to rest but a -75% XP penalty when you're "exhausted" ... |
| 20:38.39 | Shadowed | He basically wants to expand the available functions usable in UIObjects. He wants to do it by attaching a metatable to every UIObject |
| 20:38.44 | arkanes | nevcairiel: what do they do with people who don't have tickets? |
| 20:38.54 | durcyn | Torhal: hu... fetal alcohol syndrome? |
| 20:39.04 | Torhal | durcyn: Most likely. |
| 20:39.07 | Shadowed | Technically he can do it by just creating one of every UIObject and attaching a metatable to that... but it's still a terrible practice |
| 20:39.11 | olafski | asmodai: how long ago was that? |
| 20:39.26 | asmodai | April 2004 |
| 20:39.28 | Shadowed | Torhal: That's the best pattern of all |
| 20:39.30 | olafski | hm |
| 20:39.37 | asmodai | Which is when they also got a hearthstone for the first time |
| 20:39.39 | arkanes | I believe it was gone before the actual launch |
| 20:39.51 | arkanes | if not, it was certainly shortely after |
| 20:40.06 | olafski | I guess this metatable business goes beyond me |
| 20:40.09 | olafski | I'll just believe that the idea sucks :( |
| 20:40.20 | olafski | definitely gone before launch |
| 20:40.20 | Shefki | What's he trying to do build a recycling library that adds a Destroy function on every UIObject? |
| 20:40.32 | olafski | it wasn't there in the beta's I did either |
| 20:40.37 | nevcairiel | arkanes: either they pay a fine directly, or they get an id and write down details and mail them the fine later |
| 20:41.12 | asmodai | jeez |
| 20:41.19 | asmodai | meeting stones only came in March 2005 |
| 20:41.28 | nevcairiel | the initial meeting stones also sucked |
| 20:41.28 | Shadowed | Shefki: he's delusional basically |
| 20:41.30 | arkanes | and they were worthless anyway |
| 20:41.40 | olafski | yeah meeting stones were pretty dire :P |
| 20:41.41 | Shadowed | He just doesn't know what he's doing so he does stupid things like this, but he refuses to listen |
| 20:41.47 | arkanes | meeting stones, when first introduced, were basically LFG |
| 20:41.59 | nevcairiel | except that you had to go there to queue <.< |
| 20:41.59 | arkanes | except you had to go out to the instance and click on the stone to queue, so nobody bothered |
| 20:42.05 | olafski | the global LFG channel was nice |
| 20:42.13 | nevcairiel | a patch later they allowed innkeepers to act as meeting stones |
| 20:42.17 | nevcairiel | but people didnt use that either |
| 20:42.21 | Shefki | Ohh wow he's not even recycling he's just removing Show and hiding it/unregistering events. |
| 20:43.02 | nevcairiel | I think only with BC it was able to port you |
| 20:43.10 | nevcairiel | or was that earlier? |
| 20:43.16 | arkanes | pretty sure it was BC |
| 20:43.32 | arkanes | and even some time into that |
| 20:43.48 | nevcairiel | no, it was on release, i remember using that in the BC beta already |
| 20:43.50 | olafski | Patch 2.0.1 (2006-12-05): Meeting Stones now function similar to a Warlock Summon spell. |
| 20:44.09 | Shefki | Shadowed: I still think it's a waste of time to bother him. If he asks for advice then give it. But chasing people around telling them they're stupid even if they are is a waste of time. |
| 20:44.12 | nevcairiel | they removed the level restriction on the summoning later |
| 20:44.24 | olafski | yes |
| 20:44.26 | olafski | Patch 3.3.0 (2009-12-08): To use any Meeting Stone, it is only required that the characterâs minimum level be 15. There is no maximum character level requirement for any Meeting Stone. |
| 20:44.40 | nevcairiel | nah, that was earlier |
| 20:45.00 | Shefki | nevcairiel: They removed it, then they put it back, then they removed it again. |
| 20:45.06 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 20:45.06 | Shefki | It's like the WoW version of tides. |
| 20:45.08 | nevcairiel | silly them |
| 20:45.32 | durcyn | Torhal: basically, stupid people are like windmills. |
| 20:45.49 | Pneumatus | the internet is like a series of tubes |
| 20:48.48 | Pneumatus | Torhal: wtb sorting of individual prefixes in the spamalyzer tooltip |
| 20:48.52 | Shefki | GetClassByColor(red, green, blue) |
| 20:48.57 | Shefki | lol why would anyone need that? |
| 20:49.09 | Pneumatus | so if i sort by bytes, the individual user lists are sorted too |
| 20:49.10 | nevcairiel | because people are silly |
| 20:49.18 | Torhal | durcyn: Howso? |
| 20:49.22 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Planned feature |
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| 20:49.40 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Already added an "addons" and "sorted_addons" table |
| 20:50.07 | Shadowed | durcyn: Because they are stuck on a direction until the wind blows them to something new? :p |
| 20:50.13 | Shadowed | s/something/somewhere/ |
| 20:50.18 | Torhal | Ah |
| 20:50.21 | Shadowed | Although something is probably accurate too |
| 20:51.38 | Torhal | Shadowed: Here's one of my favorites: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29611&page=2 |
| 20:51.59 | durcyn | no, i meant in the quixotic sense |
| 20:52.04 | Shadowed | I can understand the _ issue Torhal |
| 20:52.06 | durcyn | tilt at them all you like, they're not likely to move |
| 20:52.22 | Torhal | Shadowed: This, though, from a guy who is writing a magical library |
| 20:52.22 | Shadowed | It's not really obvious that it's a variable since pretty much everyone uses _ as a dummy |
| 20:52.51 | Shadowed | Torhal: I'm not contesting that he's not delusional, haste yelled at him a month or two ago when he was trying to super optimize to save memory :p |
| 20:52.55 | nevcairiel | just assuming its something "special" is rather silly, still |
| 20:53.06 | Shadowed | it is |
| 20:53.11 | Shadowed | But that's at least more understandable |
| 20:53.32 | Shadowed | Especially because he's new to programming |
| 20:53.47 | Shadowed | durcyn: What if you burn them, windmills are weak to fire! |
| 20:53.51 | haste | Shadowed: wat |
| 20:54.08 | Shadowed | The wall of text you wrote telling nightcracker he was wrong about memory |
| 20:54.13 | durcyn | Shadowed: not the ones built out of brick, and i think we can agree that in our analogy, the people involved have the intelligence thereof |
| 20:54.20 | haste | \I did :D ? |
| 20:54.23 | olafski | nevcairiel: if you've done any prolog I'd say it's a reasonable assumption |
| 20:54.25 | Shadowed | Brick is pretty smart |
| 20:54.40 | Shadowed | haste: You said you hated how oUF contributed to the whole omg memory fad :p |
| 20:54.43 | Shadowed | do I have to go find the post |
| 20:54.50 | asmodai | yes yes yes |
| 20:55.09 | Torhal | Shadowed: BTW: I specifically told him to NOT do what he's now doing with this library and he was all "Oh, yeah, you're right." |
| 20:55.27 | asmodai | Do any of you know people who even play the TCG of Warcraft? |
| 20:55.35 | olafski | asmodai: I think ackis does |
| 20:55.40 | asmodai | oh wow |
| 20:55.43 | durcyn | no, i don't associate with neckbearded aspergers victims |
| 20:55.46 | durcyn | i mean, hi Ackis |
| 20:55.47 | Pneumatus | a couple in our guild do |
| 20:55.52 | asmodai | Only card game going well here is still M:TG |
| 20:56.21 | Shadowed | haste: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=167611&postcount=20 |
| 20:57.25 | Torhal | Shadowed: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=163940 -- specifically posts 18 and 19 |
| 20:57.40 | Shadowed | Oh this one, I remember this |
| 20:57.51 | Torhal | And now he's doing it. |
| 20:57.58 | haste | Shadowed: oh hey, my memory fails and such |
| 20:58.24 | olafski | nice post :) |
| 20:59.02 | olafski | I generally equal "lightweight" to "not many features you're not going to use" though it's obviously something different |
| 20:59.05 | haste | and such awesome typos :D |
| 20:59.15 | olafski | I would prefer if some addons had a lot less features.. or split up into several addons |
| 20:59.38 | asmodai | Feature creep |
| 20:59.44 | Shadowed | yea |
| 20:59.51 | Torhal | I prefer the term "soup sandwich". |
| 20:59.52 | asmodai | WoW addons are notorious for it. |
| 20:59.53 | Shadowed | Unfortunately, lightweight means "I can use 1 KB of memory cause I have no options" |
| 21:00.07 | Shadowed | asmodai: That's where the Worst coding = More popular formula is from :p |
| 21:00.21 | asmodai | rofl |
| 21:02.10 | olafski | well, I like the options being loaded on demand and such |
| 21:02.42 | durcyn | why? it's static heap usage, who cares |
| 21:02.49 | Shadowed | LoD options aren't very useful |
| 21:02.50 | durcyn | just don't fucking leak memory |
| 21:03.02 | olafski | hm I guess i've been indoctrinated then |
| 21:03.15 | Shadowed | Most configurations aren't complicated enough to even be worth it |
| 21:03.15 | olafski | my options frame is included with my addon, without any LOD stuff :> |
| 21:03.19 | olafski | indeed |
| 21:03.23 | haste | same in mine |
| 21:03.25 | olafski | the SUF ones are complicated enough tho ;) |
| 21:03.27 | haste | I just create them when they are used |
| 21:03.29 | Shadowed | You don't have configurations haste :p |
| 21:03.34 | haste | I do! |
| 21:03.39 | Shadowed | variables do not count! |
| 21:03.45 | haste | I have that in one add-on! |
| 21:04.06 | Shadowed | I think SUF hit like 10k lines, although a lot of that is acetable format |
| 21:04.23 | arkanes | glpyh has a blog post which is relevant to this conversation |
| 21:04.25 | olafski | me likey SUF.. :D |
| 21:04.25 | Shadowed | oh wait 5k |
| 21:04.26 | arkanes | but I can't find it now :( |
| 21:04.34 | haste | not counting libraries! |
| 21:05.03 | Shadowed | ~lart haste |
| 21:05.10 | Gagorian | Anyone know how the the white melee critical cap works in conjuction with raid boss crit depression? |
| 21:05.19 | Torhal | Shadowed: "So be it." |
| 21:05.28 | Shadowed | Gagorian: magic |
| 21:05.39 | Shadowed | Antiarc: might know |
| 21:05.44 | olafski | some guy told me my addon uses too much memory, 500kb or so, so he won't use it :( |
| 21:05.52 | Torhal | olafski: Tell him "Good." |
| 21:05.54 | olafski | I took that seriously for a bit too |
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| 21:06.17 | olafski | but on my "profiler" my addon only uses like 3kb so it's his loss ;) |
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| 21:06.39 | olafski | well, 500kb would be kinda odd for something like this.. whether it's bad or not is something else |
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| 21:06.59 | durcyn | should answer with "you should see how much memory i can get it to use after an hour" |
| 21:07.04 | Gagorian | The question is basically that some sources state the crit cap is lowered by the entire crit depression amount (4.8%), but my question is that can't that just be compensated by having 4.8% higher crit? |
| 21:07.37 | olafski | durcyn: hopefully the same amount.. but I think his profiler added the ace libraries to my addon |
| 21:07.41 | Shadowed | durcyn: Too bad measuring garbage created is a bitch :P |
| 21:07.45 | olafski | whereas in my wow they're counted separately |
| 21:08.35 | Shadowed | Unless you stop the GCer, but I think that could end poorly depending on the addons used |
| 21:09.53 | Torhal | olafski: L["user"] |
| 21:09.55 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:09.56 | olafski | heh I like the last comment on "Random LFG Acceptor" |
| 21:10.13 | olafski | torhal: what? :( I don't get it |
| 21:10.28 | Torhal | Eh, convoluted joke. |
| 21:10.38 | olafski | looks like it had something to do with localization |
| 21:10.42 | olafski | other than that I didn't get it :( |
| 21:11.09 | Torhal | loser + user = luser. L["user"] = translation for "user", which could possibly be "luser" or "loser" |
| 21:11.11 | olafski | I think I'll remove the comments that guy wrote now though.. even though it's BS it will reflect poorly on my addon ;p |
| 21:11.16 | durcyn | he's telling you that the next time you get a complaint like that, you need to hunt down the guy and beat him with a table. |
| 21:11.19 | olafski | torhal: oh :) |
| 21:11.23 | Antiarc | Gagorian: You can't overcome the crit depression with additional crit |
| 21:11.39 | Antiarc | Crit cap on a boss is glance - dodge - miss - crit depression |
| 21:11.47 | Antiarc | rather, all that from 100 |
| 21:12.48 | Shadowed | Antiarc: knows all! |
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| 21:16.21 | Fisker | @project blessed |
| 21:16.22 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 22 days ago |
| 21:19.17 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Alright, thanks |
| 21:19.42 | Antiarc | Man, there are some really passive-aggressive people in this channel |
| 21:19.46 | Antiarc | But I don't want to name names |
| 21:20.36 | durcyn | i see what you did |
| 21:22.36 | Gagorian | Fisker wanna play roshambo? I'll have the first kicking turn. |
| 21:22.44 | Fisker | no? |
| 21:22.51 | Pneumatus | good old rock, nothing beats rock |
| 21:23.48 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Also, while we're at it.. White melee one-roll, specials two-roll? |
| 21:23.55 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 21:24.25 | Gagorian | I've assumed huntards have also two-roll |
| 21:24.43 | Antiarc | I think they have one-roll on white damage, but they're not subject to glances |
| 21:25.00 | Antiarc | As far as I know, all white damage is one-roll |
| 21:25.09 | Antiarc | Hunters just get a different hit table |
| 21:25.11 | Antiarc | No glance, no dodge |
| 21:25.20 | Gagorian | Yeah |
| 21:25.27 | Gagorian | That's what I'm doing in DrDamage |
| 21:25.36 | Fisker | i roll you |
| 21:30.07 | Mikk | s/roll/troll/ |
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| 21:34.26 | koaschten | rep++ Mikk |
| 21:34.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7110 Citadel/Locales/deDE.lua: Fix a deDE formating error. |
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| 21:38.50 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1249 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:38.52 | Repo | - Now displays the crit cap in the white melee tooltip. An additional note is displayed when crit cap is reached. |
| 21:38.53 | Repo | - Two roll settings are default now |
| 21:38.54 | Repo | - Improved dodge/parry formulas for targets +1 and +2 levels higher than the player |
| 21:38.57 | Repo | - Added Expertise Rating to manually modifiable stats |
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| 21:47.43 | Xtek | *nudge* |
| 21:51.18 | steev | *wink* |
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| 21:55.22 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1250 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:55.24 | Repo | - Correction to crit depression formula for +1 and +2 level mobs |
| 21:56.19 | Gagorian | Fisker, is it that time of the month? |
| 21:56.27 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNQE_TzQNI |
| 21:56.30 | olafski | it's always that time of the month for him |
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| 21:57.28 | Fisker | old Antiarc |
| 21:57.39 | Fisker | btw vhaarr is it just general raid tips or actual tips for bosses and shit? |
| 21:57.58 | vhaarr | general |
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| 21:58.15 | vhaarr | although boss-specific tips _could_ be acceptable if they were funny enough or something |
| 21:58.24 | vhaarr | but they would never show up in context |
| 21:58.39 | Fisker | oh nos vhaarr |
| 21:58.54 | Fisker | need disable for /proximity |
| 21:59.11 | Fisker | and i was thinking moar like showing "tactics" |
| 21:59.19 | Fisker | like "Don't stand in the fires" etc. |
| 22:00.13 | Fisker | "Don't be afraid to dish out criticism!1" |
| 22:00.15 | Fisker | next tip |
| 22:00.21 | Fisker | "Don't worry if you're a timmy" |
| 22:00.22 | Fisker | :o |
| 22:00.26 | arkanes | "Ladies love emoticons" |
| 22:00.46 | durcyn | "If you like someone in your party, add them to your friends list!" |
| 22:00.53 | durcyn | oh, wait, that's a real one. |
| 22:02.13 | olafski | I liked the "use an addon to fake achievements and gearscore" tip :( |
| 22:03.15 | Fisker | yeah |
| 22:03.31 | Fisker | that guy should get a bunch of money |
| 22:03.38 | Fisker | for being so awesome |
| 22:03.41 | olafski | well let's not go too far |
| 22:03.50 | olafski | let's say he doesn't go on the ignore list for a few more weeks ,) |
| 22:04.06 | arkanes | in my country we show our appreciation of good ideas with groin-kicks |
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| 22:29.34 | WobWork | arkanes: http://my.spill.com/photo/deadpool-explains-rochambeau |
| 22:32.01 | Pneumatus | nothing beats rock. |
| 22:32.44 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Hey |
| 22:32.46 | Torhal | New commit |
| 22:33.03 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta2-14-gba064ae / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] There is now an AddOn-centric tooltip mode - Middle-click to toggle. |
| 22:33.17 | Pneumatus | i have no middle click :< |
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| 22:33.30 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Your mouse is from 1995? |
| 22:33.45 | Pneumatus | no, pressing my mousewheel button is not "middle click" |
| 22:33.57 | Torhal | ...how odd... |
| 22:34.18 | steev | Torhal: not entirely |
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| 22:34.58 | Torhal | Hrm |
| 22:35.06 | Torhal | Well, shit. |
| 22:35.09 | steev | it *should* respond as it |
| 22:35.24 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Try it? |
| 22:35.55 | steev | Pneumatus: and then try your other mouse buttons to see which one is replying as middle click (and then fix your drivers) |
| 22:36.07 | kenlyric | I had a mouse a few years ago that would respond to middle click as alt-tab or something. But that was the driver software the mouse came with |
| 22:36.27 | steev | kenlyric: yeah, the logitech mouse software is wack like that too |
| 22:36.41 | Pneumatus | i have a logitech mouse :P |
| 22:36.48 | Torhal | So do I |
| 22:36.53 | Torhal | TrackMan, actually... |
| 22:37.01 | Torhal | But mousewheel-click = MiddleButton |
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| 22:37.58 | steev | i have 2 logitech mice, and 1 razer deathadder or some such |
| 22:39.57 | Repo | 10stackings: 03profalbert 07master * 5255147 / (17 files in 2 directories): [new, +1 commit] initial commit |
| 22:41.00 | Pneumatus | bql down |
| 22:41.08 | Pneumatus | ill take a look to confirm after raid Torhal |
| 22:41.14 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Danke |
| 22:41.20 | Pneumatus | but i cant middleclick my transcriptor widget with any of my many buttons |
| 22:41.25 | Pneumatus | so i expect this will be the same |
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| 22:42.06 | Torhal | Pneumatus: If it is, I suppose I'll have to do some mouse config stuff. Bleargh. |
| 22:46.24 | cralor | How can I hide the alpha background from the PitBull totem timers? |
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| 22:48.16 | Repo | 10emblemwatch (experimental): 03Silmano 04r003 * 0a26cd8 /: [new tag, +1 commits] r003: |
| 22:51.01 | Gnarfoz | @describe stackings |
| 22:51.02 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/stackings/. StacKings. Shows stacking buffs as bars |
| 22:52.54 | laz1 | if I call frame:CreateFontString how do I get the reference to the new FontString object? |
| 22:54.26 | Torhal | local fontstring_name = frame:CreateFontString() |
| 22:55.40 | laz1 | is there any other way to derive the reference to the FontString from the Frame? |
| 22:56.25 | Repo | 10stackings: 03profalbert 07master * c6b332f / (5 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 22:56.27 | Repo | c6b332f: add the libs-folder |
| 22:56.28 | Repo | 756b432: add LibDataBroker-1.1 and CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 22:56.30 | Repo | 7ab9c95: add .pkgmeta |
| 22:56.31 | Repo | 3b07870: add .gitignore |
| 22:57.46 | Mikk | laz1: i THINK you can get a list of children |
| 22:57.50 | Mikk | but unsure if fontstrings are in that list |
| 22:57.59 | Mikk | read widget api on wowwiki =) |
| 22:58.33 | laz1 | children didn't work, it said nil value |
| 22:59.40 | yoshimo | @describe stackings |
| 22:59.41 | Repo | yoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/stackings/. StacKings. Shows stacking buffs as bars |
| 22:59.44 | Mikk | Frame:GetRegions() - Return the "regions" (fontstrings, textures) of the frame (multiple return values) belonging to this frame. |
| 22:59.46 | Mikk | this is the one you want |
| 22:59.53 | Mikk | but it'll give you all of em |
| 22:59.59 | Torhal | laz1: frame.FontStringName = frame:CreateFontString() |
| 23:00.05 | Mikk | as r1,r2,r3,r4,...= GetRegions() |
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| 23:09.06 | cralor | anyone fluent with PitBull functionality? |
| 23:09.46 | yoshimo | no, only suf |
| 23:14.04 | Mikk | shadowedUF = seeeeeeeeeex |
| 23:15.12 | Nechckn | Both hands on the keyboard, Mikk! |
| 23:15.16 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 23:15.26 | Mikk | i tank just find onehanded tyvm |
| 23:15.56 | Nechckn | Ha.. the sad part is that you can do just about all of WoW that way. Wonder if it is intended, hmm.. |
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| 23:18.23 | cralor | suf is nice, but this set up was done in pitbull so... meh |
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| 23:26.32 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta2-15-ga8340c8 Spamalyzer.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed an accidental global. |
| 23:30.50 | Mikk | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/findglobals/ bound to a function key in your favourite text editor |
| 23:32.22 | yoshimo | well why do you think so many female bloodelfs are in the game? even as blacksmiths ;) Nechckn? ;) |
| 23:32.44 | Torhal | Mikk: I keep meaning to check that out...been using "luac -l|grep GLOBAL|less" |
| 23:33.08 | Mikk | aye that gets annoying though |
| 23:33.12 | Torhal | Yah |
| 23:33.31 | Mikk | i just have this bound to an F-key in my editor |
| 23:33.35 | Repo | 10stackings: 03profalbert 07master * fe2d26d DB.lua: [+1 commit] fix error when logging on to a class that has no defaults |
| 23:33.37 | Mikk | syntax + global check in a second |
| 23:33.44 | Mikk | before wasting a reload to find out you fucked up :P |
| 23:35.07 | Torhal | Mikk: I'll check it out. Thankye. |
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| 23:37.37 | Dark_Elf | anybody know if the curse client v4 saves zip files to harddrive and if so, where on win xp? |
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| 23:41.23 | koaschten | semi-nsfw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs |
| 23:42.45 | Megalon | hrhr |
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| 23:46.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7111 Plugins/Tips.lua: |
| 23:46.26 | Repo | Never show the tip if you log right into a raid instance (or reload UI in one). |
| 23:46.33 | vhaarr | actually that might not work with LoD |
| 23:46.58 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: do you run lod or something, someone needs to test this |
| 23:46.59 | yoshimo | is it intended that i get a tip as soon as i die?^^ |
| 23:47.03 | vhaarr | no |
| 23:47.18 | vhaarr | well if it hasn't shown you a tip previously that session, sure |
| 23:51.18 | yoshimo | when does it show the tip usually? |
| 23:51.35 | vhaarr | when you zone in to a raid instance and have more than 9 people in the raid and you are not in combat |
| 23:51.58 | vhaarr | then it will show one tip and then never again that session |
| 23:52.09 | vhaarr | next session, if you reloaded or logged into a raid, it should never show either |
| 23:52.12 | Mikk | why the >9 people? |
| 23:52.20 | vhaarr | since raids have 10 or more |
| 23:52.32 | Mikk | not if you run in while the raid is forming |
| 23:52.43 | vhaarr | yeah then it will wait until the raid has 9 or more then show you a tip |
| 23:52.47 | vhaarr | unless you are in combat |
| 23:52.48 | Mikk | oh ok |
| 23:53.20 | yoshimo | will they remain english or will we translators have more work? |
| 23:53.26 | vhaarr | I haven't decided yet |
| 23:53.31 | vhaarr | anyway someone needs to test this with LoD |
| 23:53.42 | vhaarr | change line 398 to a print() instead of a comment |
| 23:53.48 | vhaarr | and zone into a raid instance with one other person in the raid |
| 23:54.01 | vhaarr | if it prints then with LoD (a zip bigwigs), I need to fix that |
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| 23:54.24 | vhaarr | err not zone, but reload ui or relog inside the instance |
| 23:55.37 | Mikk | you COULD just mv the folder out too :P |
| 23:56.00 | vhaarr | but I'm so lazy :/ |
| 23:56.05 | Mikk | hehe |
| 23:56.10 | Mikk | i suspected as much, hence needling you ;) |
| 23:56.11 | vhaarr | surely someone here runs zip builds and can test :P |
| 23:56.46 | vhaarr | FINE |
| 23:57.03 | Mikk | ~mikk++ |
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| 23:57.17 | Mikk | "purl: please don't karma yourself" |
| 23:57.20 | Mikk | whiner :P |
| 23:57.33 | vhaarr | :P |
| 23:59.48 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r289 / (2 files in 2 directories): rewrote questInformation module |
| 23:59.50 | Repo | fix tickets 114, 115, 116, 117, 119 and few other errors |
