| 00:03.02 | Groktar | best random heroic ever |
| 00:03.10 | Groktar | i queued as tank and got oculus |
| 00:03.14 | Groktar | and we were on the last boss |
| 00:03.25 | Groktar | and my sack of gems had two cardinal rubies and a drake |
| 00:04.34 | vhaarr | god dammit there's no apparent way to solve this |
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| 00:15.18 | Ingela | rofl Groktar |
| 00:15.22 | Ingela | that's a nice heroic |
| 00:17.21 | Lienne | Thought I was lucky yesterday when I got my drake |
| 00:17.22 | Lienne | but wow |
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| 00:53.25 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7112 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 00:53.27 | Repo | Awful hacks to not show TotR if you log into (or reload in) a raid instance with a LoD BW. |
| 00:55.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7113 Plugins/Tips.lua: |
| 00:55.36 | Repo | Actually check whether we are inside a raid instance or not before doing anything. |
| 00:57.44 | Stanzilla | Groktar: I hate you |
| 00:58.41 | WobWork | vhaarr: what sort of tips are these? |
| 00:58.45 | WobWork | "Don't stand in the fire"? |
| 00:58.48 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 01:00.57 | Groktar | Stanzilla: :( |
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| 02:02.15 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 07cataclysm * r2529 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Fix back button bug |
| 02:02.17 | Repo | - Default frame now automatic select the first loottable on Module/Instance change |
| 02:02.18 | Repo | - Some other small fixes |
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| 02:41.43 | cralor | Is this wrong: |
| 02:41.45 | cralor | elseif (event == "PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED") and (... == UnitName("player")) then |
| 02:42.53 | cralor | Oh! |
| 02:42.58 | cralor | arg1 is "player".. not the name :P |
| 02:53.12 | BWMerlin | In pitbull4 is it possible to make new units? |
| 02:56.38 | Repo | 10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 07master * 0.7.2b-2-g66b92d2 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] experimental version (we hook almost everything at the very last second(at the first GetMerchantNumItems call)) this should get us to the very end of any hook chain going on ensuring that the filtered values are preserved until GVF sends them directly to the client) |
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| 03:55.34 | Venara | @describe goblinvendorfilter |
| 03:55.35 | Repo | Venara: http://www.wowace.com/addons/goblinvendorfilter/. GoblinVendorFilter. Enables the filtering of items when you visit a vendor |
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| 04:07.52 | sylvaan | the iPad simulator needs to have apps on it |
| 04:08.02 | sylvaan | how annoying |
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| 04:10.19 | sylvnaar | whatever |
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| 04:16.47 | Groktar | we have one of fifteen attempts left on blood queen |
| 04:16.51 | Groktar | after we two shot her last week |
| 04:16.52 | Groktar | :( |
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| 05:07.45 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk: ping |
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| 05:07.54 | Shirik | or nevcairiel or tem etc. |
| 05:08.17 | quiesense | I considered trying to wake someone but its too much effort working out who is likely to be alive |
| 05:08.40 | Shirik | And this is why they should just let me put Shiibot in here :P |
| 05:09.11 | Nechckn | I said the same for wowhead, Shirik |
| 05:09.18 | Nechckn | but... no takers |
| 05:09.30 | Nechckn | s/said/suggested/ |
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| 05:11.12 | Shirik | oops... |
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| 05:11.25 | Shirik | I tried to figure out his client, I may have contributed to the problem :( |
| 05:11.31 | Shirik | (00:10:16) - [CTCP to Droolio]: VERSION |
| 05:11.31 | Shirik | (00:10:24) - Quit: Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) (Excess Flood) |
| 05:11.46 | quiesense | bad shirik |
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| 05:12.04 | Shirik | fail Droolio for having a poor client imo |
| 05:12.22 | quiesense | any client that responds to a ctcp request without some form of throttling or otherwise is susceptible |
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| 05:13.07 | Shirik | (00:11:51) - [CTCP/VERSION] from dzse (n=pmthnze@115-64-183-105.static.tpgi.com.au) (Ignored) <-- :) |
| 05:13.29 | Shirik | and, because of distributed attacks, (00:11:53) - CTCP protection: ignoring CTCPs for 60 seconds |
| 05:13.32 | Aeyan | yawn |
| 05:13.37 | Droolio | it's mirc |
| 05:13.45 | Droolio | but do me a fav and stop that :) |
| 05:13.52 | Shirik | Uh... it's not me :P |
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| 05:13.57 | Shirik | And I'm using mirc too |
| 05:14.19 | Droolio | you said i have a poor client? |
| 05:14.20 | quiesense | technically there are probably quite a few clients susceptible |
| 05:14.40 | Shirik | are you using an old version of mirc? |
| 05:14.43 | Droolio | come to think of it, there hasn't been a new version of mirc in a while |
| 05:14.44 | Shirik | Or perhaps it's my script that handles it |
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| 05:14.48 | quiesense | but people with say, scripts that use multiline version responses are probably especially easy to get flooded off |
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| 05:15.02 | Droolio | nope i'm using v6.35 |
| 05:15.41 | quiesense | a lot of the scripts people use like to add their own little touches onto the stock version reply, and then those additional bits count towards the flood limits |
| 05:15.45 | quiesense | o.o |
| 05:16.50 | Shirik | well teh only thing different between me and you is that I use nbs-irc, so I guess it's the script handling the CTCP flood |
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| 05:16.58 | Droolio | ah my flood protection isn't enabled |
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| 05:17.15 | Shirik | not in time! |
| 05:17.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:17.17 | Aeyan | Here we go again |
| 05:17.23 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 05:17.24 | quiesense | I really think we should wake an op |
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| 05:17.28 | quiesense | maybe we should poke them all |
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| 05:17.35 | Aeyan | lol |
| 05:17.40 | Shirik | Shiibot never sleeps |
| 05:17.49 | Droolio | right, just enabled ;) |
| 05:17.54 | Shirik | Droolio :P |
| 05:18.05 | Droolio | dunno if the built-in mirc flood prot works |
| 05:18.21 | Shirik | make sure you turned on CTCP reply protection |
| 05:18.22 | quiesense | any bets on which op is most likely to be alive? |
| 05:18.27 | Droolio | been a looooong while since i did a fresh install of mirc. all my settings are from like 1997 |
| 05:18.30 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk, but she's not, so you're screwed |
| 05:18.57 | Droolio | aye seems to be enabled |
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| 05:20.43 | Shirik | lolfail. I disconnected, but I don't know why |
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| 05:20.51 | Shirik | I blame brighthouse |
| 05:21.14 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:21.23 | Shirik | ? |
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| 05:38.59 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client v4: http://clientupdate.curse.com/setup.exe | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | http://wowace.com/a/author-store-is-launched | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ | Happy New Year! |
| 05:40.06 | Torhal | ckknight: That "rawr" caused a sunspot. |
| 05:40.14 | ckknight | k |
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| 05:53.51 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client v4: http://clientupdate.curse.com/setup.exe | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | http://wowace.com/a/author-store-is-launched | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ | Happy New Year! |
| 05:53.52 | ckknight | no, I do, that's why I gave you ops. |
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| 05:53.55 | Shirik | <3 |
| 05:54.03 | ckknight | gonna be going to bed soon |
| 05:54.16 | quiescens | for what its worth +R on this is, unregisted users can join but not talk |
| 05:54.24 | quiescens | unregistered* |
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| 06:03.16 | WobWork | quiescens: the CTCP floods don't require voice, do they? |
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| 06:05.14 | quiescens | ? |
| 06:05.38 | Shirik | WobWork: no |
| 06:05.41 | quiescens | they're sending them to channel, so yes at the moment they need to be able to "talk" |
| 06:05.51 | Shirik | well they do if the channel is +R |
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| 06:21.44 | Torhal | Shadowed: This kid needs his legs knocked out from under him. http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=176371#post176371 |
| 06:22.11 | Torhal | Still acting like he knows everything there is to know about Lua simply because he's smart enough to grasp certain concepts. |
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| 06:22.53 | Shadowed | The problem is, he doesn't grasp the concepts |
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| 06:23.12 | Torhal | I said "certain". :D |
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| 06:23.28 | Shadowed | he has a very crude grasp on it |
| 06:23.38 | Torhal | Yes. But that makes him omniscient. |
| 06:23.55 | Shadowed | He's 12, every 12 year old thinks they know everything :p |
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| 06:24.20 | Torhal | I thought that was only the semi-intelligent ones. Alas. |
| 06:24.23 | Shadowed | Although most of them aren't quite so stubborn |
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| 06:24.44 | ckknight | yea, that Torhal guy's a dick |
| 06:24.51 | Shadowed | we already knew that |
| 06:24.55 | Torhal | I think we should get him interested in Physics, so he can say Einstein was wrong. |
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| 06:25.06 | Shadowed | haha |
| 06:25.14 | Torhal | ckknight: You mean "fuckhead", right? |
| 06:25.16 | winkiller | yay, snow chaos |
| 06:25.32 | ckknight | Torhal: ur mom |
| 06:25.34 | ckknight | hey-o |
| 06:25.46 | Torhal | Mommy! |
| 06:28.30 | Torhal | Amended the post to drive the point home. |
| 06:28.33 | Torhal | Bleargh. |
| 06:29.46 | ckknight | Torhal: looking at the global table will be both faster cpu-wise and more memory-efficient than initializing a new closure. |
| 06:30.32 | Shadowed | Which is irrelevant because the CPU cost is so small that if it matters you're doing something crazyly wrong :p |
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| 06:31.08 | Torhal | Shadowed: He thinks Knuth is an idiot, too, apparently. |
| 06:31.13 | Shadowed | who is Knuth |
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| 06:32.04 | Torhal | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth |
| 06:32.16 | Torhal | He made the observation that "Premature optimization is the root of all evil." |
| 06:32.36 | Torhal | Actually - "We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: premature optimization is the root of all evil" |
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| 06:33.23 | Shadowed | oh that |
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| 06:34.59 | ckknight | Donald Knuth, international sex symbol |
| 06:35.26 | Torhal | ckknight: rawr? |
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| 07:10.48 | nevcairiel | that nightcracker guy is seriously funny |
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| 07:16.58 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Yes |
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| 07:22.24 | nevcairiel | are there no classes left where that actiually makes sense? |
| 07:23.09 | nevcairiel | druids can basically get by with a full-tree-spec :P |
| 07:23.20 | nevcairiel | its not perfect, but not really bad either |
| 07:23.50 | Shadowed | not really :p |
| 07:23.55 | Shadowed | there's no reaosn for a Druid to go full tree |
| 07:23.56 | Shadowed | reason* |
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| 07:26.07 | nevcairiel | hm i can only place 68 points in restoration before it goes pvp or doesnt make sense, bah :P |
| 07:26.42 | Shadowed | yea |
| 07:26.57 | nevcairiel | 0/0/61 was a valid spec back in the day! |
| 07:26.58 | Shadowed | Really you can only place around ~60 |
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| 07:27.59 | nevcairiel | most druids i know go 11/0/60 or possibly 14/0/57 |
| 07:28.02 | Shadowed | yea |
| 07:28.51 | Shadowed | It's probably not as bad for Druids to go 71 as other classes, but it's pretty much a weird and bad thing to do anyway |
| 07:31.07 | nevcairiel | a moonkin can pretty much go 71 without a obvious bad talent |
| 07:32.06 | Hjalte | Resto is pretty good for moonkins though, compared to the filler talents that he'd have to take otherwise. |
| 07:32.33 | nevcairiel | i didnt say it was perfect, but there are no talents in that build that directly scream pvp, for example |
| 07:33.34 | nevcairiel | but yeah a sane druid wouldnt spec like that |
| 07:33.34 | quiescens | still |
| 07:33.45 | nevcairiel | although moonkins are insane by design |
| 07:34.52 | quiescens | some of the stuff in the [balance/resto] tree are worthwhile when you're [resto/balance] enough that they should probably be taken instead |
| 07:34.56 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 07:35.17 | nevcairiel | every druid spec basically starts with some stuff in resto |
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| 07:46.11 | koaschten | Antiarc: Chatter -> Name completion in non-existance chat channels will error out. e.g. chat in /2, join random lfg, enter dungeon, try tab completion in /2 instead of /p -> http://ace.pastey.net/132129 |
| 07:48.01 | Arrowmaster | Grum: ^^ |
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| 09:06.59 | winkiller | mhm, anyone knows of a (commercially) free windows image viewer ala irfanview/xnview? |
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| 09:15.34 | CrazyBenny | I¨ve settled to FastStone image viewer, but its not exactly awesome |
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| 10:03.59 | mitch0 | I use opera fot that :) |
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| 10:09.57 | Kalroth | whats wrong with irfanview? |
| 10:10.12 | nevcairiel | it has a "personal only" license |
| 10:10.31 | Kalroth | oh, for work |
| 10:10.44 | nevcairiel | freeware only for non-commercial use |
| 10:11.29 | Kalroth | sure, it's $12 if you want to use it at work |
| 10:14.31 | Zyn | XnView is winrar |
| 10:14.43 | Kalroth | same issue |
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| 10:23.05 | haste | winkiller: you could always use one of the GTK/KDE ports on windows |
| 10:23.18 | winkiller | only solution methinks |
| 10:23.22 | asmodai | http://www.xnview.com/ |
| 10:23.36 | asmodai | what's wrong with that? |
| 10:23.37 | winkiller | asmodai: read licence |
| 10:24.26 | asmodai | ah |
| 10:24.27 | winkiller | actually, looking around, we got 60, so would probably need ~50 licences |
| 10:24.43 | haste | winkiller: how is it a bad solution tho'? |
| 10:24.45 | asmodai | winkiller: Can't you just use Picasa then? |
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| 10:25.18 | winkiller | asmodai: can you open and browse through all in one folder with space or something |
| 10:25.37 | winkiller | my perception of picasa was: not much better than the windows viewer for "quick viewing" |
| 10:25.40 | haste | picasa is more for album organization |
| 10:26.01 | winkiller | haste: got any names of stuff? |
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| 10:26.15 | winkiller | think I've never thought much about on linux, I just... use it |
| 10:26.25 | winkiller | whatever distro/wm I have running |
| 10:27.08 | haste | I just use feh under linux, so dunno about the GTK/Qt ones |
| 10:27.19 | haste | take a look at KDE's stuff |
| 10:27.25 | mitch0 | kuickshow is the kde one afaik |
| 10:27.27 | haste | they tend to provide windows ports as well |
| 10:27.52 | winkiller | ok will do, thanks |
| 10:28.00 | winkiller | (imgv is horrible, btw) |
| 10:28.03 | haste | http://windows.kde.org/ |
| 10:28.06 | winkiller | so id dia |
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| 10:48.35 | Repo | 10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r27 / (5 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
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| 10:50.19 | Repo | 10moncaiqt: 03Moncai 04v0.1.2-beta * r28 : Tagging for beta. |
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| 10:58.40 | Fisker | @project blessed |
| 10:58.42 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 23 days ago |
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| 11:01.30 | SunTsu | whoa, 23 days? That's what I call rapid development :> |
| 11:02.02 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:02.04 | yoshimo | basic stuff is working ;) |
| 11:02.04 | Fisker | he's lazy! |
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| 11:08.30 | yoshimo | ~seen Antiarc |
| 11:08.31 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNQE_TzQNI'. |
| 11:08.51 | yoshimo | Fisker, Zeksie is even more lazy^^ |
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| 11:11.51 | Fisker | yes |
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| 11:19.53 | SunTsu | I was hoping on blessed because PallyPower/ZOMGBuffs-Interaction seems to be faulty |
| 11:21.33 | yoshimo | zomg doesnt send talents , which blessings you skilled and so on , me thinks |
| 11:21.54 | arkanes | there's certainly some issues, the other pallies I run with that use PP are always complaining |
| 11:22.08 | arkanes | PP wire protocol is frigging terrible :\ |
| 11:23.20 | yoshimo | zomg also doesnt accept assignments from the pp autoconfig button because you dont have to be promoted to press that button |
| 11:24.38 | yoshimo | Zeksie and Antiarc could replace PP easily if they were around and coding^^ |
| 11:25.05 | arkanes | well PP is practically universal |
| 11:25.17 | arkanes | so just not using its protocol is not a real option at this point |
| 11:26.13 | yoshimo | blessed is missing real commcode yet, isnt it? |
| 11:26.18 | orionshock | i've always been a fan of - one or the other, unless the 2 authors sit down and hash out the protocols to work togeather, then don't mix it |
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| 11:26.58 | arkanes | my understanding is that blessings has no comms, because PP is terrible but nothing else works :P |
| 11:31.09 | Fisker | now i have saronites for shadow's edge :o |
| 11:31.18 | yoshimo | im still missing a few |
| 11:34.15 | yoshimo | orionshock, why do you think im hoping that Zeksie comes back?^^ |
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| 11:35.19 | Fisker | but it's like iPhone yoshimo |
| 11:35.23 | Fisker | you know it's inferior |
| 11:35.29 | Fisker | but yet these retards keep wasting money on it |
| 11:35.39 | Fisker | so until PP dies, there'll still be retards using it :( |
| 11:35.58 | Fisker | i wish we never fixed that exploit that allowed you to disconnect PP users |
| 11:36.03 | Fisker | should've been a feature in blessed |
| 11:37.43 | yoshimo | how could you disconnect them?^^ |
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| 11:41.23 | SunTsu | ~seen Zeksie |
| 11:41.24 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 43d 12h 12m 57s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'. |
| 11:41.43 | yoshimo | joy? not really^^ |
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| 11:42.54 | yoshimo | ~seen Zek |
| 11:42.55 | purl | zek <n=zeksie@cpc1-nott9-0-0-cust756.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 94d 19h 12m 51s ago, saying: 'moo'. |
| 11:43.44 | Xinhuan | ~seen Xinhuan |
| 11:43.44 | purl | xinhuan is currently on #wowhead (41s) #wowuidev (41s) #wowace (41s) #curseforge (41s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Xinhuan'. |
| 11:44.02 | Fisker | ~seen Fisker |
| 11:44.03 | purl | fisker is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Fisker'. |
| 11:44.05 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: identity crisis? |
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| 12:05.44 | yoshimo | the hallways left and right of the room of BQL, will there be respawning trash until you killed her? |
| 12:06.13 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03tatechen * r277 Locales/Locale-zhTW.lua: Traditional-Chinese update |
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| 14:13.43 | yoshimo | the wowaceforum doesnt shrink &stretch images to fit the users monitor size, does it? |
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| 14:32.27 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/wApCi.png |
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| 14:48.08 | olafski | http://i.imgur.com/Wo27t.jpg |
| 14:48.10 | olafski | while we're at it |
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| 15:04.10 | asmodai | olafski: Yea, saw that one |
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| 15:56.18 | Silowyi | ok so I have my minimap at the bottom of the screen |
| 15:56.34 | Silowyi | and a lot of the blizzard tooltips, like the dungeon finder one, display offscreen |
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| 15:57.44 | genetik- | Silowyi: which minimap addon are you using? |
| 15:57.55 | Silowyi | SexyMap |
| 15:58.27 | genetik- | i haven't used it in a while, but i'm pretty sure there's an option to unlock "movers" so you can move those types of things around |
| 15:59.16 | Silowyi | doesn't move the dungeon finder tooltip |
| 15:59.43 | genetik- | i'm not sure what you mean, then |
| 15:59.58 | Silowyi | when you're queued for the dungeon finder |
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| 16:00.16 | Silowyi | and you hover over the mini map button |
| 16:01.02 | Silowyi | It pops up with an estimated time and it says "assembling dungeon" |
| 16:01.12 | Silowyi | but this tooltip is halfway off the screen if you have your map at the bottom |
| 16:02.36 | Silowyi | on another note, pally tanks that can't hold agro make me cry |
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| 16:04.17 | yoshimo | no matter which class Silowyi, bad players make ME cry^^ |
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| 16:12.41 | Silowyi | I love it when the loot system doesn't give you items you've won but instead leaves them on the body/in the chest |
| 16:15.19 | haste | that's what you get for zoning out too fast! |
| 16:15.33 | yoshimo | or havent enough bagspace |
| 16:18.56 | SunTsu | it sometimes happens to me without any reason I can see |
| 16:19.21 | SunTsu | I sometimes just have to pick those items up myself |
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| 16:24.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7114 Plugins/Bars.lua: |
| 16:24.24 | Repo | Started works on the clickable bars, some actions remain unimplemented and others are probably bugged. Drycode. |
| 16:26.50 | olafski | suntsu: happens to me too |
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| 16:32.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Any curse guys in here? |
| 16:34.33 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2531 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Ashen Verdict change |
| 16:35.02 | Ackis | a few VonhintenHOME` |
| 16:35.29 | VonhintenHOME` | Password Reset Success? From: NCSoft Support (support@ncsoft.com) . xxxxxxxx-at-sneakemail.com |AionSource| (xxxxxx@sneakemail.com) |
| 16:35.47 | VonhintenHOME` | Someone 65.255.34.173 Aion has been reset to your game account password. If you not make the change, please contact support https://secure.ncsoft.com/login. |
| 16:35.54 | VonhintenHOME` | Of course, the link actually points to http://www.secure-ncsoft-nic.com/ |
| 16:36.21 | VonhintenHOME` | hack email list is hacked |
| 16:36.23 | Ackis | was that via a PM? |
| 16:36.40 | Ackis | it was an e-mail from aionsource? |
| 16:36.44 | VonhintenHOME` | No, that was to my sneakemail address tagged "AionSource" |
| 16:37.47 | olafski | I think I got that mail too ;) |
| 16:37.53 | VonhintenHOME` | It was a clever attempt, it almost got me, since it's aion related from an aion related email account |
| 16:38.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:38.11 | olafski | well yes, they wouldn't send aion related mail from a wow related account ;) |
| 16:38.16 | Ackis | VonhintenHOME`: resay what you just said, Kaelten wasn't here |
| 16:38.49 | VonhintenHOME` | Password Reset Success? From: NCSoft Support (support@ncsoft.com) . xxxxxxxx-at-sneakemail.com |AionSource| (xxxxxx@sneakemail.com) |
| 16:38.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Someone 65.255.34.173 Aion has been reset to your game account password. If you not make the change, please contact support https://secure.ncsoft.com/login. |
| 16:39.06 | VonhintenHOME` | Of course, the link actually points to http://www.secure-ncsoft-nic.com/ |
| 16:41.24 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 16:41.29 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNQE_TzQNI'. |
| 16:42.06 | VonhintenHOME` | olafski, they'd probably have success sending a wow one too, since a lot of people use the same email address for everything |
| 16:42.42 | olafski | yeah.. and a lot more people play wow than aion I guess ;) |
| 16:42.51 | olafski | I've only gotten one for either game so far |
| 16:43.06 | Kaelten | sorry what's up |
| 16:43.42 | Tentacled | okay, this is getting retarded. UI.xsd cannot properly validate my nice XML - though it works - as it apparently requires XML elements to be present in a specific order. And indeed there's some <xs:sequence><xs:choice> nastiness in UI.xsd, which could be replaced by <xs:all>... if it were permitted any longer by w3c. So... how to force it to allow extension of a base type without enforcing element order..? |
| 16:43.46 | VonhintenHOME` | aionsource email list is likely hacked |
| 16:43.52 | SunTsu | I sometimes wonder how some of my co-workers even make it to work - I bet there are instructions and workflow charts to tie their shoes right next to their door... |
| 16:44.34 | olafski | actually looking at my spambox, it's filled with wow related phishing |
| 16:44.57 | Kaelten | VonhintenHOME` ? |
| 16:45.16 | VonhintenHOME` | I use a single sneakemail addy for every site I have a login to, no reuse at all |
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| 16:45.47 | VonhintenHOME` | and I just got a phishing email for Aion via the AionSource addy |
| 16:46.13 | olafski | ah. seems like a lot of work :P |
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| 16:47.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 16:48.24 | Kaelten | I know the site had some bad adstuff injected into it through a vbulletin vunerability. |
| 16:48.31 | Kaelten | (aionsource that is) |
| 16:48.39 | Kaelten | we've purged the injection, and fixed the leak |
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| 16:48.53 | VonhintenHOME` | well, I haven't been to aionsource in ages, since I quit playing Aion |
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| 16:52.39 | yoshimo | can you create addons vor aion as well? |
| 16:54.11 | VonhintenHOME` | not the last time I looked |
| 16:54.28 | yoshimo | what does aionsource do then? |
| 16:54.38 | VonhintenHOME` | it's a portal for aion |
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| 17:07.44 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker |
| 17:07.57 | Fisker | derp derp derp |
| 17:08.46 | vhaarr | bork bork bork |
| 17:10.24 | Gnarfoz | ~bork |
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| 17:13.10 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 17:14.03 | ckknight | yoshimo: it's just a community site |
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| 18:03.22 | Pneumatus | Torhal / yoshimo: 1x Spamalyzer-beta2-19-g13ecbcb\Spamalyzer.lua:34: attempt to index global 'tekDebug' (a nil value) |
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| 18:07.19 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta2-20-gcb43986 Spamalyzer.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed debug declaration/definition - properly reference tekDebug. |
| 18:07.25 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Heh |
| 18:07.40 | Pneumatus | *clikety-click |
| 18:07.51 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Middle-click working for you? |
| 18:08.01 | Pneumatus | ill check when its loaded in a min :P |
| 18:10.14 | Pneumatus | well, i just reassigned the mousewheel button to middleclick in drivers |
| 18:10.16 | Pneumatus | so it does, yes |
| 18:10.24 | Torhal | Yay |
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| 18:12.05 | Pneumatus | Torhal: there still appears to be a sorting anomoly within the sub-lists, i guess that's known? |
| 18:13.00 | Pneumatus | i've sorted by bytes, but when i expand a character, the individual addons listed appear to be sorted arbitrarily |
| 18:14.45 | Torhal | Aye - at the moment it only sorts by the players' or AddOns' values, and doesn't touch their sub-values |
| 18:15.13 | Torhal | It's annoying but it isn't something I'm going to fix right away |
| 18:15.20 | Pneumatus | +1 vote for sorting sub-lists then :) |
| 18:15.23 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 18:15.32 | Torhal | Ticket or I might not remember for awhile. |
| 18:15.47 | Pneumatus | will do |
| 18:15.51 | Torhal | Right now I'm adding a third view mode - by channel |
| 18:15.52 | yoshimo | ticket or bug doesnt exist, wasnt it? |
| 18:16.00 | Torhal | yoshimo: Indeed! |
| 18:16.00 | Pneumatus | its not a bug :P |
| 18:16.07 | Torhal | Feature request, then |
| 18:16.07 | Pneumatus | well, idk, it might be |
| 18:16.25 | Torhal | It isn't, strictly speaking. It just isn't obvious that it wouldn't sort those as well |
| 18:17.18 | yoshimo | lets do it like blizzard " problem is known already and we are working on it" , we dont have to say how long we will work in it ;) |
| 18:18.00 | NivFreak | Antiarc: so we gave mumble a go last night, with pretty misrable results |
| 18:18.07 | Antiarc | oh? |
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| 18:18.36 | yoshimo | antiarc, when will blessed be worked on again? |
| 18:18.39 | NivFreak | lots of audio artifacts, about an hour of people fucking with the audio wizard/settings to try and end up at a reasonable volume level |
| 18:18.47 | NivFreak | lots of issues with mouse keybinds |
| 18:18.55 | NivFreak | we ended up dumping it and going back to vent for th enight |
| 18:19.47 | Antiarc | Gimme a sec, tanking a heroic |
| 18:20.02 | Antiarc | What kind of bandwidth was the server on? |
| 18:20.11 | Antiarc | CELT suffers if you don't have appropriate server BW |
| 18:20.12 | NivFreak | something 10mbit+ |
| 18:20.20 | NivFreak | I'll have to ask specifics |
| 18:20.22 | Antiarc | that should be fine |
| 18:21.40 | yoshimo | i was trying CELT with ts3, but the client bandwith was too low^^ sounded bad as well |
| 18:23.03 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Have time to jump on a server with me? I can probably help you iron out the audio issues |
| 18:23.34 | NivFreak | I'm at work atm |
| 18:23.44 | Antiarc | Ping me when you're home, I'll help you config it |
| 18:23.44 | NivFreak | I suspect some of it was client related |
| 18:24.02 | Antiarc | It sounds fantastic if you get it configured right. Some of the defaults aren't quite right though. |
| 18:24.06 | NivFreak | but my concern is, about half our raiders will never figure out advanced config |
| 18:24.14 | Antiarc | Well, it's really easy if you give step-by-step |
| 18:24.14 | Pneumatus | hmm, i never realised wowprogress was able to be accurate to the minute |
| 18:24.24 | Antiarc | I have almost 80 people using Mumble on a regular basis :P |
| 18:24.35 | Antiarc | yoshimo: When I get time for addons, heh |
| 18:24.36 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: armory started timestamping achieves at some point |
| 18:24.42 | Ackis | Antiarc: did you see the $5 babys r us thing? |
| 18:24.47 | Antiarc | Ackis: yup, thanks! |
| 18:24.54 | Pneumatus | NivFreak: yeh, just been looking at page sources and noticed full timestamps |
| 18:25.16 | Funkeh` | Torhal, Message: Interface\AddOns\Spamalyzer\Spamalyzer.lua:34: attempt to index global 'tekDebug' (a nil value) |
| 18:25.27 | Pneumatus | update! |
| 18:25.39 | yoshimo | antiarc, it would be great if you could find zeksie and get him to use the blessed protocol as well^^ |
| 18:25.41 | Funkeh` | i just did an alpha update... |
| 18:25.45 | Antiarc | yoshimo: I may, heh |
| 18:26.00 | Funkeh` | gah |
| 18:26.02 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Definitely feel free to poke me when you get some time to play with it. It's a great product, its config just suffers a bit from open-source-itis. |
| 18:26.05 | Pneumatus | Funkeh`: new one got pushed about 5 mins ago |
| 18:26.05 | Funkeh` | useless |
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| 18:26.09 | Funkeh` | ! |
| 18:26.20 | Pneumatus | shame armory doesnt have a guild feed like the char feeds |
| 18:26.41 | Ackis | Torhal, Message: Interface\AddOns\Spamalyzer\Spamalyzer.lua:34: attempt to index global 'tekDebug' (a nil value) |
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| 18:28.14 | Pneumatus | Ackis: 1x <string>:"return Ackis:logDemKeys()":1: attempt to index global 'Ackis' (a nil value) |
| 18:29.10 | Ackis | rolfz |
| 18:29.47 | Ackis | I posted that error on Torhal's facebook |
| 18:30.01 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 072.0 * r236 / (3 files in 2 directories): Started working on the Options. |
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| 18:34.18 | Gnarfoz | <yoshimo> i was trying CELT with ts3, but the client bandwith was too low^^ sounded bad as well <-- wheee 19kbyte/s for voip, that leaves... -2kbyte/s for WoW! :D |
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| 18:38.15 | yoshimo | Adsl sucks^^ especially if you cant get more than a 2000 connection... |
| 18:39.29 | Torhal | Funkeh`: I'm assuming you updated before I pushed again? |
| 18:40.02 | Funkeh` | its working now yes |
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| 18:45.20 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 072.0 * r237 / (2 files in 1 directory): Few tweaks, move along... |
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| 18:57.31 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta2-21-gffffa8b Spamalyzer.lua: [+1 commit] Added Channel-view tooltip mode. The tooltip now displays the mode name in the header. |
| 18:58.19 | Torhal | Now you can easily see how badly your guild is spamming you with GearScore and Carbonite. |
| 18:58.23 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:58.35 | genetik- | fun stuff |
| 18:59.08 | Megalon | carbonite even spams to those on your friendslist? |
| 18:59.12 | Adremma | I already know how bad it is, the people who have those addons installed tend not to have any other addons with comms installed, even though they should |
| 18:59.28 | Megalon | because I get random people I don't know on spamalyzer, reporting message from carbonite :x |
| 18:59.48 | pompy | Megalon: ppl have u on their friends list then ;p |
| 18:59.51 | Pneumatus | put them on ignore |
| 19:00.24 | Torhal | Megalon: Channel-view will show if Carbonite is coming in on Whispers |
| 19:00.27 | Megalon | well what baffles me |
| 19:00.35 | Megalon | is more the fact, that I'm on peoples friendslist! |
| 19:00.40 | Torhal | Haha |
| 19:01.08 | genetik- | stalkers |
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| 19:03.51 | koaschten | @describe biteme |
| 19:03.52 | Repo | koaschten: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/biteme/. BiteMe. Mark and Raid announce for Bite targets on Blood Queen Lana'thel boss encounter |
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| 19:06.32 | Pneumatus | organising bites for BQL is so trivial |
| 19:06.41 | Pneumatus | the thought of using an addon for it... |
| 19:07.15 | genetik- | heh.. it's not like you have a whole minute to plan ahead who you're going to bite or anything... |
| 19:07.46 | Pneumatus | there's a stupidly trivial stratergy for biting that only requires you know what 1 other person is biting on any cycle |
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| 19:08.36 | VonhintenHOME` | planning bites is srs bsns |
| 19:09.10 | Pneumatus | 8 melee, 8 casters split into 4 groups of 4, trivialness ensures |
| 19:09.38 | VonhintenHOME` | We know who's highest DPS, and we just call it out |
| 19:10.54 | genetik- | i'm still trying to get my raid to learn how to not fail on the blood pact link thing.. people are overly stupid for some reason |
| 19:11.10 | Pneumatus | run to the diamond in the middle of the room |
| 19:11.12 | Pneumatus | problem solved |
| 19:11.13 | genetik- | yep |
| 19:11.20 | genetik- | that's how it _should_ be solved |
| 19:11.27 | genetik- | but there's always one person who's got tunnel vision |
| 19:11.38 | Pneumatus | replace them, problem solved |
| 19:11.44 | genetik- | first night we worked on here i had flashbacks to mother shahraz |
| 19:12.25 | genetik- | not practical/possible to replace a third the raid, unfortunately |
| 19:13.15 | genetik- | we're actually getting better at it, though.. it's just every now and then someone will not pay attention |
| 19:13.24 | genetik- | usually melee |
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| 19:14.25 | Fisker | well marking people is still neat |
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| 19:15.51 | Pneumatus | and completely unneccesary! |
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| 19:21.23 | ckknight | http://img.skitch.com/20100128-b1ppcsa7662wbsdimr648tiar4.png |
| 19:21.41 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 19:24.00 | Fisker | give me the one with 4 iphones taped together |
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| 19:29.30 | pompy | Hm, what could be causing this, http://pastebin.com/d53bc76c4 |
| 19:30.05 | Stanzilla | pompy: got questhelper? |
| 19:30.22 | pompy | Stanzilla: nope |
| 19:30.29 | pompy | Stanzilla: quest guru tho. |
| 19:30.53 | Stanzilla | hm I got those errors with questhelper |
| 19:31.28 | pompy | quest gurus quest tracker shows the quest item provided next to it and u can click it to use it.. so idk if its maybe refering to that |
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| 19:45.19 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta2-23-g0ab99ed Spamalyzer.lua: [+2 commits] |
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| 19:45.37 | Repo | 0ab99ed: Sorting by category will now also sort sub-sections. |
| 19:45.38 | Repo | 789992c: Moved Debug() above all other code. |
| 19:45.40 | Torhal | Pneumatus: ^^ |
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| 19:47.51 | Ingela^ | great |
| 19:47.52 | Ingela^ | Remove all the oRA2-3 main tank import magic stuff |
| 19:47.56 | Ingela^ | stupid tomsommer <.< |
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| 19:59.40 | Xtek | hola |
| 20:00.30 | Ackis | olla |
| 20:00.41 | Ackis | i'm eating pudding |
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| 20:01.59 | yoshimo | why should you remove support for ora?^^ |
| 20:02.40 | nevcairiel | because it was done crappy |
| 20:03.29 | pompy | @describe gearscore |
| 20:03.30 | Repo | pompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/project-21509/. GearScore. What is GearScore? GearScore is an addon for World of Warcraft that allows you to quickly and easily judge a player's level o... |
| 20:03.31 | pompy | lol |
| 20:03.42 | nevcairiel | huh was it deleted? |
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| 20:04.02 | nevcairiel | oh someone else uploaded it |
| 20:06.51 | pompy | @describe nvgearscore |
| 20:06.51 | Repo | pompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/nvgearscore/. GearScore. New GearScore 3.1.13! This is the new super awsome GearScore addon. If you want to see a video on how to use it watch: http:/... |
| 20:07.09 | sb|work | wtf |
| 20:07.17 | yoshimo | same author as the old one |
| 20:07.19 | Ingela^ | yoshimo, that's a very good question, tomsommer decided to do it |
| 20:07.19 | yoshimo | ? |
| 20:08.01 | yoshimo | @project nvgearscore |
| 20:08.02 | Repo | yoshimo: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/nvgearscore/. GearScore. Game: WoW. mirrikat45 (Manager/Author), fyrye (Documenter). Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 54/59 |
| 20:08.44 | pompy | that is a lot of tickets |
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| 20:15.06 | VonhintenHOME` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs |
| 20:18.04 | yoshimo | pompy, some people care about the tickettracker some people dont even look at it |
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| 20:32.53 | Repo | bef4f1b: Channel names in the tooltip and the ChatFrame output are now localized. |
| 20:32.54 | Repo | 3ab0ba9: Fixed message counts in channel view. |
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| 20:42.42 | Repo | - fixed ARL.scan_button placement (yeah torhal messed it up) |
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| 20:55.12 | Repo | - fixed emtpy search text bug (pompy included that in r2677) |
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| 21:16.02 | Gnarfoz | ~seen saroz |
| 21:16.05 | purl | saroz <n=mail@0x5da37c9a.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 200d 5h 43m 8s ago, saying: 'nevcairiel, you got any admin privs on curse?'. |
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| 21:35.45 | CrazyBenny | ICC pugs ftw...hunters damage on Rotface consists of 55% Volley, 30% Melee and rest is serpent sting :o |
| 21:37.12 | yoshimo | ye, 25man first wing done, second wing fail, 10man only the first 3 bosses... sometimes i hate not having a qualified raid with skilled players |
| 21:37.15 | Gnarfoz | volley? rotface? wtf |
| 21:37.30 | yoshimo | 30% melee? |
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| 21:37.44 | CrazyBenny | apparently he didnt know that he dont have to hug the boss, since rest of the group did |
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| 21:42.18 | yoshimo | gnarfoz i hope you have high armor, i looted bryntroll today^^ |
| 21:42.37 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: Shadow's Edge will eat yo' soul |
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| 21:42.53 | Gnarfoz | (and yes, I have high armor~) |
| 21:43.10 | Groktar | wtb blood princes mace so i can put brnytroll in the bank where it belongs |
| 21:43.25 | Groktar | right now i'm offhanding my shadow's edge |
| 21:43.26 | Groktar | :( |
| 21:43.35 | yoshimo | titans grip and warrior? ;) |
| 21:43.49 | Groktar | yeah |
| 21:44.39 | yoshimo | can you dualwield 2 shadowmournes or is it unique? |
| 21:48.02 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta3 Spamalyzer.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 21:48.04 | Repo | 84d3a55: In DrawTooltip(): Only sort sub-sections when the main section is open. |
| 21:48.05 | Repo | ca43392: When wiping data, also wipe addons and channels. |
| 21:48.09 | Repo | 8233841: Removed COLOR_YELLOW since it isn't used, and upvalued some globals. |
| 21:48.32 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 04beta3 * 61e84b6 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta3. |
| 21:49.23 | Megalon | they are unique |
| 21:50.40 | yoshimo | in that case i try with shadows edge + shadowmourne^^ |
| 21:52.30 | Megalon | quests tend to be not repeatable by default I think ;o |
| 21:53.08 | yoshimo | let me dream a bit, wont you? |
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| 21:56.06 | yoshimo | are those sweet dreams or a beautiful nightmare? |
| 21:57.25 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7116 Citadel/Festergut.lua: Citadel/Festergut: Add shake when you have the spore. |
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| 21:58.35 | yoshimo | is immunity against arcane torrent, hammer of justice per spell or per mob? |
| 21:58.59 | Megalon | per diminishing return category i'd think |
| 21:59.02 | yoshimo | im talking about intterrupting in general |
| 22:00.10 | Megalon | hoj should always interrupt npc's, at least form reading the tooltip, but on the other hand, blizzard and tooltips :x |
| 22:00.41 | yoshimo | what is a diminishing return category in comparison to spellschool? |
| 22:01.16 | nicoli_s | you mean whats the difference between them? diminishing returns category are spells that share the same diminishing returns |
| 22:01.39 | nicoli_s | so like multiple fear spells would work the same, so each time you cast, regardless of which fear spell it is, will have the same diminishing returns |
| 22:01.47 | nicoli_s | spell school is just like fire, arcane, nature, etc |
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| 22:04.55 | yoshimo | how do i know which spells belong in one category ^?^^ |
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| 22:07.16 | nicoli_s | the data is probably in the dbc files, so whoever made the addon probably got the info from there |
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| 22:16.25 | yoshimo | which addon? |
| 22:16.46 | Bribri | are there actually good reasons to use curse client 4 over curse client 3? |
| 22:16.54 | Bribri | besides prettier ui |
| 22:17.09 | Pneumatus | generally better at handling everything |
| 22:17.14 | nicoli_s | i dunno, addons that use the data, i dunno if there are any |
| 22:17.32 | nicoli_s | bribri: there are def more features, and like pneumatus said, its pretty much better at everything that v3 could do |
| 22:17.42 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: offhanding the slower of two weapons? that makes sense these days? |
| 22:18.09 | Torhal | Bribri: Unless you're using Linux, get CC4 |
| 22:18.19 | Torhal | Otherwise, you're screwed |
| 22:18.44 | Bribri | define screwed |
| 22:20.18 | Torhal | Linux doesn't handle .NET very well. Mostly, at all. |
| 22:20.30 | Torhal | Mono isn't compatible with the latest in .NET |
| 22:20.36 | nicoli_s | and it uses wpf, that mono cant do yet |
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| 22:26.30 | Shadowed | Gagorian: You found the T10 2 piece Holy Paladin set was multiplied not added then? |
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| 22:29.52 | yoshimo | rawr still doesnt handle t9 and t10 bonuses for holypaladins, does it? |
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| 22:39.44 | Tentacled | Hmm. Any of you guys ever did support for an Asian-locale client? zhTW or zhCN? A player is reporting that my addon is showing massive "?"s instead of proper Kanji that's in the localization files, so I'm suspecting my font choice might not support Kanji over at their end... |
| 22:40.17 | VonhintenHOME` | probably |
| 22:40.57 | Tentacled | So do all the GameFontHighlightSmall and gang have different font definitions for different locales? |
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| 22:45.22 | ckknight | yes, Tentacled |
| 22:45.37 | Tentacled | STANDARD_TEXT_FONT and bunch, let me guess. |
| 22:45.44 | ckknight | use LibSharedMedia |
| 22:45.45 | ckknight | seriously. |
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| 22:48.44 | Tentacled | and... how can SharedMedia find the default font used on a Taiwanese client..? |
| 22:53.36 | Tentacled | Is there a site that could have the FrameXML files browseable in different locales..? |
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| 22:55.23 | Gagorian | Shadowed: I haven't confirmed it either way, I initially had it multiplicative and haven't changed it since |
| 22:55.35 | Shadowed | One of us is wrong, one of us is right! |
| 22:56.27 | Gagorian | Indeed ;) |
| 22:56.42 | Gagorian | But it's more likely to be additive I'd think |
| 22:56.52 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 22:57.58 | Shadowed | lua> print(1.05 * 1.12); print(1.05 * 1.12 * 1.35) |
| 22:57.58 | lua_bot | Shadowed: 1.176, 1.5876 |
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| 22:58.23 | Shadowed | So 8% off depending on which |
| 22:58.37 | Shadowed | That's not too bad |
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| 22:59.15 | Gagorian | I only found one reference on elitistjerks with a quick google search, and it was a guess about being multiplicative |
| 22:59.21 | Gagorian | But nothing conclusive |
| 23:01.48 | Gagorian | Would be real easy to test if you just had a char with the set... |
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| 23:03.23 | Shadowed | I certainly don't |
| 23:05.05 | yoshimo | Gagorian what do you need exactly? |
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| 23:08.14 | Gagorian | yoshimo: Well, basically to see if holy set T10 2p 35% healing increase is multiplied or added to the talents when divine illumination is active |
| 23:08.41 | Shadowed | you'd have to be Holy when you test it thought |
| 23:09.27 | Gagorian | Well yeah, you need Divine Illumination to test :) |
| 23:09.53 | Shadowed | I was thinking more you need healing modifiers because 1 * 1.35 is still 1.35, but that's a good point too :p |
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| 23:10.08 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta3-1-g67eb7d9 Spamalyzer.lua: [+1 commit] In Spamalyzer:StoreMessage(): If an addon doesn't have an entry for a player, insert that player's name into its sorted list. Yoshimo was right - I tagged a beta then found a bug. |
| 23:10.13 | Gagorian | Indeed, you'd need a modifier that's known to be additive |
| 23:10.18 | Gagorian | actually two of them |
| 23:10.21 | Torhal | yoshimo: ^^ |
| 23:10.30 | Gagorian | or well, one is enough |
| 23:10.39 | Gagorian | Plus divine illumination |
| 23:11.18 | Shadowed | do Paladins have additive modifiers? |
| 23:11.26 | Gagorian | Healing Light should be afaik? |
| 23:11.30 | Shadowed | I thought healing light wasn't |
| 23:11.57 | Shadowed | Seal of Light was |
| 23:12.07 | Shadowed | rest were additive was my understanding |
| 23:13.34 | Gagorian | I've put in Seal of Light as multiplicative |
| 23:13.50 | Shadowed | I have Seal of Light as being done first, so it doesn't really matter technically |
| 23:13.53 | Gagorian | Divinity is at least multiplicative |
| 23:14.02 | Shadowed | yea Divinity is multiplicative |
| 23:14.29 | Shadowed | oh wait I guess I have SoL as multiplicative oops |
| 23:14.38 | Shadowed | I can't remember half of these formulas |
| 23:14.45 | Gagorian | Yeah I usually have to check too |
| 23:15.10 | Gagorian | It seems everything else I have is multiplicative but Healing Light, which means it's exactly the same if Healing Light is considered multiplicative or not |
| 23:15.12 | Gagorian | as the rest still is |
| 23:15.17 | Fisker | @project blessed |
| 23:15.18 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 23 days ago |
| 23:16.10 | Gagorian | If Healing Light is actually multiplicative then it doesn't make any difference what the 2p T10 is |
| 23:19.45 | Gagorian | yoshimo: You have 2p T10 holy set? |
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| 23:20.49 | Gagorian | Basically the easiest way to test is download DrDamage if you don't have it. Make sure you have healing light and divine illumination.. then spam flash of light for example with the buff on |
| 23:21.14 | Gagorian | If DrDamage predicts too high values then it's additive and not multiplicative. |
| 23:21.27 | Shadowed | Holy Light would probably be more obvious wouldn't it? |
| 23:21.58 | Gagorian | Well the problem is that 15s effect on a 3min cooldown you'll get a lot more flash of lights in |
| 23:22.16 | Shadowed | ah true |
| 23:22.19 | Gagorian | More chance to get a cast outside the calculated range? |
| 23:23.33 | Gagorian | lua> print(1.05*(1.12+0.35)); print(1.05*1.12*1.35) |
| 23:23.34 | lua_bot | Gagorian: 1.5435, 1.5876 |
| 23:23.58 | yoshimo | so i have a paladin with 2 pieces of t10, what shall i do now? |
| 23:24.13 | Gagorian | Read the instructions above :) |
| 23:24.59 | yoshimo | fail at scrolling^^ |
| 23:25.39 | Megalon | hehe |
| 23:25.50 | yoshimo | complete naked except t10 so no trinket interferes i guess? |
| 23:26.01 | Megalon | more spellpower is better |
| 23:26.05 | Gagorian | Well more spelldamage is better, but procs are bad |
| 23:26.06 | WobWork | one of these days I'll make a pally |
| 23:26.13 | WobWork | probably when I can make a tauren pally |
| 23:26.17 | Gagorian | So remove any procs if possible |
| 23:26.29 | WobWork | I just wish "RetBull" wasn't taken on my server =( |
| 23:26.49 | yoshimo | this idea a few in my guild already had^^ |
| 23:27.02 | Torhal | yoshimo: You cursed me. :D |
| 23:27.05 | VonhintenHOME` | I created Douchebagalo the other day, I was shocked and surprised no one had it |
| 23:27.11 | Megalon | 1.05*(1.12+0.35) or 1.05*(1.12*1.35) |
| 23:27.26 | yoshimo | torhal, did you find another bug? ;) |
| 23:27.29 | Megalon | the only possibilities? |
| 23:27.57 | Torhal | yoshimo: Just the one. But it was after tagging, as you said |
| 23:27.58 | Gagorian | Megalon: Well in fact if you heal yourself you'll get another divinity stack |
| 23:28.26 | Megalon | yoshiom, just fire 2p bonus, spamheal yourself |
| 23:28.29 | Megalon | and pastey the combatlog |
| 23:28.33 | Megalon | and you spellpower ;) |
| 23:29.41 | Megalon | kind of remembers me, when I had to do that for every druid balance talent |
| 23:29.59 | Megalon | because noone on EJ ever tested it as it seemed :x |
| 23:30.00 | Gagorian | And no Seal of Light active or Imp. devotion aura |
| 23:31.15 | VonhintenHOME` | do people use seal of light over wisdom these days? |
| 23:31.25 | Shadowed | paladins run out of mana? |
| 23:32.22 | yoshimo | yes, if the second healer dies on markgar like i had it earlier^^ |
| 23:33.01 | Gagorian | yoshimo: You going to test it now or a bit later? |
| 23:33.07 | VonhintenHOME` | I run glyph of seal of wisdom and Libram of Renewal still |
| 23:33.20 | VonhintenHOME` | and I still run low every now and then |
| 23:33.23 | arkanes | paladins run out of mana all the time |
| 23:33.45 | yoshimo | of course we do |
| 23:33.55 | VonhintenHOME` | I really hate the paladin mana regen mechanic actually |
| 23:33.59 | arkanes | the only reason we're even moderately capable healers (at least in our HL incarnation) is that we gear and spec almost exlusively to not run out of mana |
| 23:34.31 | arkanes | if you think "rely entirely on replenishment" counts as a mechanic |
| 23:34.35 | VonhintenHOME` | that 50% healing debuff is way overkill |
| 23:34.37 | yoshimo | you reg mana with divine plea, arcane torrent and manapotions^^ |
| 23:34.46 | yoshimo | and loh |
| 23:35.13 | VonhintenHOME` | There's never a good time to plea, while main tank healing, imo |
| 23:35.24 | VonhintenHOME` | even with trinket/wings going |
| 23:35.26 | arkanes | not entirely true |
| 23:35.39 | arkanes | bonestorm on marrowgar is a good time |
| 23:35.47 | arkanes | boat has plenty of down time, of course |
| 23:36.02 | VonhintenHOME` | ok, I'm talking fights that aren't a cake walk already :) |
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| 23:36.23 | Megalon | like council! |
| 23:36.28 | VonhintenHOME` | blood queen |
| 23:36.33 | arkanes | i really hate the way people choose one fight as the "hard one" and then ignore mechanics for anything else |
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| 23:37.02 | WobWork | arkanes: welcome to WotLK =P |
| 23:37.12 | arkanes | WobWork: it dates back much farther than that |
| 23:37.14 | arkanes | I still hate it |
| 23:37.17 | VonhintenHOME` | point is, pally's have a mana mechanic that doesn't work well in all cases, where the others have a mechanic that does |
| 23:37.21 | Gagorian | yoshimo: Well, I'm off to bed. If you have time to run some tests bother Shadowed with the math :P |
| 23:37.34 | Shadowed | later Gagorian |
| 23:37.50 | arkanes | pallies try to fight too many mechanics into wierd pegs |
| 23:38.09 | arkanes | you can't up the CD on DP and get rid of the penalty to make more like other healers CDs, because that screws prot & ret |
| 23:38.21 | yoshimo | i should do that too gagorian, but im still messing with math^^ |
| 23:39.21 | VonhintenHOME` | the other angle is, pally's have been taught to gear int, and that puts them at a natural disadvantage on the throughput front |
| 23:39.26 | VonhintenHOME` | since they aren't gearing SP |
| 23:39.48 | arkanes | except it doesn't, because HL has ridiculous througput with nearly 0 spellpower |
| 23:39.54 | arkanes | it's all about extremens |
| 23:40.49 | arkanes | but every time we get to a place where spamming HL nonstop for an entire fight is a reasonable proposition, our regen is nerged |
| 23:40.58 | VonhintenHOME` | btw, that the hell is the story with Libram of Blinding Light |
| 23:41.09 | arkanes | because HL is tremendous throughput |
| 23:41.13 | yoshimo | dammit, who invented 3minutes cd for that ability... |
| 23:41.15 | VonhintenHOME` | is it just me, or is that a retarded libram |
| 23:41.25 | arkanes | the stacking sp one? |
| 23:41.35 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, on Holy Shock |
| 23:41.49 | arkanes | well they want pallies to do healing combos |
| 23:41.59 | yoshimo | i still use the old one^^ |
| 23:42.05 | arkanes | so does everyone |
| 23:42.10 | VonhintenHOME` | They should have made it good then, lol |
| 23:42.29 | arkanes | the only way to make it good is to somehow nerf HL spam |
| 23:42.31 | yoshimo | ruins my average ilvl and the even more retarded GS, but that doesnt matter^^ |
| 23:42.59 | yoshimo | arkanes, they should give us a better libram instead^^ |
| 23:43.01 | arkanes | and they keep trying to do that with regen, but it's such a strong way to heal that players ignore the hints and gear for it anyway |
| 23:43.30 | arkanes | we'll see what things look like in cat, I guess, when all healers have the same core regen mechanic |
| 23:43.50 | VonhintenHOME` | the problem is, that libram introduces ANOTHER thing to upkeep |
| 23:44.27 | arkanes | hitting HS on cooldown is actually a pretty good thing |
| 23:44.30 | VonhintenHOME` | shield, beacon, judgement, holy light buff, Flash hot... |
| 23:44.37 | Megalon | Australia has banned mainstream pornography from showing women with A-cup breasts, apparently on the grounds that they encourage paedophilia, and in spite of the fact this is a normal breast size for many adult women. |
| 23:44.48 | Megalon | yea, aussies show 'em them titties |
| 23:45.00 | VonhintenHOME` | and then add to it holy shock, on a very unforgiving timer |
| 23:45.15 | WobWork | why are they doing this to our country =( |
| 23:45.20 | arkanes | VonhintenHOME`: HS on cooldown is technically an HPS increase |
| 23:45.31 | arkanes | VonhintenHOME`: and if you're a FoL pally its excellent |
| 23:45.31 | VonhintenHOME` | and expensive |
| 23:45.32 | Fisker | so if you like women with a-cups you're a pedophile |
| 23:45.33 | Fisker | nice |
| 23:45.46 | WobWork | Female ejaculation is also a myth |
| 23:45.54 | arkanes | not a myth, just disgusting |
| 23:45.58 | arkanes | (so they say) |
| 23:46.00 | WobWork | it's classified as urine |
| 23:46.13 | WobWork | I'm not quite sure what biologists they got to verify that |
| 23:46.27 | yoshimo | what about man with b cups then?^^ |
| 23:46.34 | yoshimo | but back to topic |
| 23:46.38 | WobWork | yoshimo: that's fine, see |
| 23:46.45 | WobWork | unless it's a fat kid |
| 23:46.45 | arkanes | you're supposing they actually give a damn what a biologist says |
| 23:47.03 | WobWork | arkanes: I'm hoping that logic and scientific fact would have -some- impact on the laws |
| 23:47.03 | yoshimo | is it possible to refresh the divine illumination buff so it lasts longer than 15 seconds? |
| 23:47.05 | arkanes | or anyone, for that matter |
| 23:47.12 | arkanes | yoshimo: no |
| 23:47.34 | yoshimo | that will take ages to collect data then, 3m cd... |
| 23:47.59 | arkanes | ~12 casts or so per cooldown |
| 23:48.13 | arkanes | how big is the difference you're tring to detect? |
| 23:48.17 | VonhintenHOME` | pop a haste pot on first cast |
| 23:48.21 | VonhintenHOME` | might get a couple more in |
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| 23:49.16 | VonhintenHOME` | It's worded like a 35% boost to the heal value, post calculation |
| 23:49.39 | Megalon | arkanes: depends on your spellpower levels |
| 23:50.02 | arkanes | pretty much all the percentage based bonuses have the same wording |
| 23:50.16 | yoshimo | 2437 without procs |
| 23:51.07 | Fisker | i have hate yoshimo |
| 23:51.40 | Megalon | healing yourself? |
| 23:51.48 | Megalon | so an additional 5% from divinity? |
| 23:52.17 | yoshimo | im talking about plain spellpower megalon, removed rings and trinkets |
| 23:52.44 | arkanes | use your on use trinket |
| 23:52.50 | Megalon | k |
| 23:52.58 | arkanes | it lasts longer than the DI does |
| 23:53.08 | Megalon | which talents do you have |
| 23:53.14 | Megalon | that increase the healing done? |
| 23:53.25 | Megalon | divinty I think |
| 23:53.29 | Megalon | and something with +12% |
| 23:53.49 | arkanes | healing light |
| 23:53.52 | arkanes | l2scrollback :P |
| 23:54.31 | Megalon | name is irrelevant :P |
| 23:55.42 | arkanes | I really like the way festergut plays out in 10 man |
| 23:55.57 | arkanes | I wish all boss healing (at least where tank death is intended to be the danger) was like that |
| 23:56.28 | arkanes | although I suppose it only feels so right to me because when we first did it we were at exactly the gear level it was tuned for |
| 23:56.40 | Megalon | yoshimo: got a value > 3120 or one below < 3045 |
| 23:56.44 | Megalon | when healing yourself |
| 23:57.43 | yoshimo | i have to split my logfile first^^ |
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| 23:59.34 | Megalon | well, one cd should be more then enough |
