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00:20.02Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03Torhal 07master * v1.2.6-1-g444488e InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory_Fix.lua: [+1 commit] Updated compatibleVersion since this is still required in 3.3.2
00:33.46Repo10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.0-1.0.1-2-g4526df2 Spamalyzer.lua: [+1 commit] Wait a few seconds after OnEnable(), then manually grab channel colors - it appears that not using a chat AddOn delays this indefinitely.
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01:27.55Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7178 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories):
01:27.59RepoCitadel/Sindragosa: Rewrite 'Chilled' function, add frost breath.
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01:28.11NeoTronSo are there any games like Mass Effect 2 other than Mass Effect? I.e in short: 3p shooter with rpg elements and a significant story and some level of free play rather than just doing levels?
01:29.10WobWorkSTO?
01:29.23WobWorkFallout3?
01:30.32NechcknDon't yell at me... bioshock  =)
01:30.34NeoTronSTO? :P
01:30.42NeoTronFallout 3 - sure but already played that :P
01:30.57NeoTronNechckn: it's a 1p shooter with minimal rpg elements
01:31.00NeoTronis it not?
01:31.02NechcknAlthough surely limited in RPG, it has "some" and is pretty adarn fun
01:31.27NeoTronI don't really like the first person (only) in first person shooters
01:31.29WobWorkwell STO has 3pshooting
01:31.34WobWorkand rp
01:31.42WobWorkfreeplay
01:31.43WobWorkand lore
01:31.53Nechcknlol... and foreplay, too!
01:31.57NeoTronsure but based on the beta, it's not very good? It definitely has other elements though
01:32.01WobWorkso it fufills all the requirements =P
01:32.08WobWorkwell, you didn't ask for -good- =P
01:32.14NeoTronI guess "doesn't suck" wasn't on the list :)
01:32.29NeoTronbut yes, I kind of liked, in theory, the combat in STO
01:33.04WobWorkexecution is a bit iffy
01:33.13WobWorkbut maybe I'm just not used to it
01:33.19NeoTronIt does seem like games combining all of the mass effect parts is rare
01:33.39NeoTroneither you have a shooter, with no or litle rpg, or you have and rpg that's not a shooter or it's a shooter with rpg elements but no story etc
01:34.09Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1287 / (5 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 7 lines)
01:34.39Repo- Check for Winter's Chill applications instead of assuming 5% crit
01:34.40Repo- Apply hit penalty to the dot portion (due to main spell not hitting -> dot not applying) of abilities after aoe calculation
01:34.41Repo- You can now manually enable Arcane Blast debuffs (assumes max stacks)
01:34.43Repo- Blizzard coefficient now slightly more accurate
01:47.57PrimerGagorian: I remember when mages would yell at me for dispelling arcane blast :)
01:48.05PrimerI recall you asked about it earlier
01:48.15PrimerI was going to say "because it's a debuff"
01:48.24Primernowadays it seems that pitbull filters this
01:48.36Primeror maybe I'm just on crack
01:50.12Primeror something
01:51.36BrybryI thought it was a buff now
01:52.46Brybryactually I guess that wouldn't make sense
01:54.32Gagorianit's a debuff
01:57.27Repo10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r35 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated TOC for 3.3
01:57.28RepoAdded Emblems of Frost to item ignore list.
01:59.26harlhaha.. http://epicwinftw.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/129083415705532207.jpg
02:03.47Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7179 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): Citadel/Sindragosa: Comment clean-up.
02:07.49Repo10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r36 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added ability to export data to a CSV document.
02:17.48GagorianNeoTron: Hey can you check another thing for me?
02:17.54GagorianRegarding 4p T10
02:18.01Gagorianerr T9
02:21.04Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7180 / (6 files in 4 directories): Bump toc, unload/disable some stuff
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02:25.11GagorianNeoTron: For some reason the 2p T8 buffs even shadowflame conflag, I'm wondering if 4p T9 does the same :)
02:28.10Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1288 / (3 files in 2 directories):
02:28.11Repo- Remove tooltip caching from abilities with secondary tooltip display to prevent weird behaviour
02:28.11Repo- Warlock 2p T8 also increases Shadowflame conflagrate damage
02:31.15Repo10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added ability to use item links to ignore items.
02:42.40Groktar6:41 kill of putricide today
02:50.51Repo10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r38 enUS.lua: Fixed localization bugs.
02:57.54Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1289 Changelog.txt: - Updated Changelog.txt
02:58.58Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.5_release * r1290 : Tagging as 1.7.5_release
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03:07.06Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1291 Data/Priest.lua:
03:07.08Repo- Include Spiritual Healing in Glyph of Power Word: Shield calculation
03:07.24Shadowedhrm
03:07.26Shadowedbah MT
03:08.11Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2835 Database (5 files in 1 directory): Fixed some variable declarations
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03:13.15Groktarhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-lt1used0yp7wpae3/sum/damageDone/?s=2490&e=2813
03:13.24Groktari went defensive stance and stole the first bite
03:13.25Groktar:d
03:15.36Stanzillasneaky
03:15.41Stanzillajust dps harder!
03:17.24steevwoot!
03:17.26steevwe got putricide
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03:21.15Hjaltesteev: We wiped at 500k health on 25-man last week because of a tank death. Meh.
03:21.18steevand our other dk got the quest part finished for him
03:21.51GroktarStanzilla: i have no shot of beating the hunters/mages on threat
03:22.36Stanzillahmm :/ I can do it as a shadowpriest
03:23.15Groktarwhat's wrong with your mages and hunters then
03:23.16Groktar:(
03:25.27Stanzillanothing, I just pulled :p
03:25.44Stanzillabursting with 5k spellpower is fun
03:27.49Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7181 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: Lots of changes, too angry to list them.
03:28.40pompy~pat vhaarr
03:28.41purlACTION pats vhaarr and says "Nicely Done!"
03:28.53vhaarr:P
03:29.17steevand i won cryptmaker go me
03:29.28steevof course, i was the only one to roll on it but still
03:30.39JagobahSindragosa took off at 44% hitpoints, please notify the developers in #bigwigs on freenode if possible.
03:30.42Jagobahrofl
03:30.55Groktarlolwhat
03:30.56vhaarrcan stop that now I don't know who added that or what
03:30.58vhaarrbut it wasn't me
03:31.09vhaarrs/or what/or why/
03:31.52Funkeh`anyone using flash 10.1 beta without problems?
03:32.49Jagobah:p
03:33.02Jagobahnot without problems sorry
03:33.11Funkeh`bah
03:33.13Jagobahit'll randomly bug out and i have to restart my browser
03:33.17vhaarranyone using any flash version without problems?
03:33.21Funkeh`i'll pass then
03:35.33Jagobahstable flash 10 works ok for me
03:37.56steevhooray, 343 hit
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03:41.16Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7182 Options/author-list.lua: Author list update.
03:46.38Repo10bigwigs_sindragosaicons: 03Rabbit * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Puts icons on tombed players. Initial commit.
03:47.45steevour first attempts at bql
03:49.15steevwe've got 19
03:49.20steevcuz we wiped once on PP
03:50.29Groktarsindragosa to 18% first try
03:50.40steevnice
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03:54.33Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r7183-release * r7183 : Pushing new/fixed Citadel/3.2.2 timers.
03:54.42steevso someone who's downed bql
03:54.45steevarmy safe?
03:56.20Groktaryes
03:56.25Groktarsafe
03:56.35vhaarrpop it during the 2nd air phase
03:57.23Groktarhopefully this attempt is a kill
03:57.27steev...
03:57.52steevthat attempt was not good :P
03:57.57Groktarhehe
03:58.00steevshe had 43m health still when we called it
03:58.06Groktarlol
03:58.10Groktarwe two shot her the first week
04:00.41steevi don't think many other people looked up this fight at all
04:01.07vhaarr"removed of Blood Power gain from Mark of the Fallen Champion damage."
04:01.09vhaarrlolwut
04:01.24vhaarrpugs will faceroll him as well then
04:02.56steevthey didn't already?
04:03.03steevthey do on our server
04:03.05vhaarrnot on my server
04:03.19steevthey need to buff up the new boss in VoA
04:03.27steevthat was a wtf faceroll fight
04:03.35steevi didn't even know wtf was going on before he was dead
04:03.44vhaarrindeed
04:04.09Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7184 Plugins (2 files in 1 directory): Re-add modules that were unloaded/disabled for release.
04:04.54Funkeh`steev, lol...
04:04.59Funkeh`had the same feeling
04:05.01Funkeh`still dont know
04:07.23steevwas like, okay avoid the aoe of...
04:08.11Groktar20%
04:08.12Groktar:(
04:08.25steevoy
04:08.32steevwtf are the valkyr linked to?
04:08.52Groktaron arthas?
04:08.59steevno
04:09.04steevin the center of upper spire
04:09.09Groktaro
04:09.12Groktaridk
04:09.26Groktarthey might just always respawn
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04:16.25steevbleh
04:16.34steevlinked right as she feared
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04:17.34Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2836 / (3 files in 2 directories):
04:17.37RepoFixed a bunch of formatting fuck-ups in the SPELL_ITEM table, then gave up on the NO_PLAYER_FLAG table. I'm not that self-destructive.
04:17.38RepoChanged a bunch of numbers in the Enchanting DB to constants.
04:17.39RepoAdded a veritible fuckton of code which allows the dumping of a profession to the copy/paste buffer so that it can be pasted back into the database files in more of a human-readable format. Usage: /script ARL:DumpProfession("alchemy") (for example).
04:17.40RepoIn addon:addTradeSkill(): Add the spell_id to the table for sorting purposes (profession dumps).
04:23.50Repo10gnome-charmer: 03Rabbit * r37 GnomeCharmer.lua:
04:23.52RepoAllow gnomecharmer to work even if you are not the party leader in 5mans.
04:27.23Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2837 Database/Engineering.lua: spaces!
04:34.46steev50% that time
04:35.33steev14 attempts left
04:36.02Groktar14%
04:36.02Groktar:(
04:39.19Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7185 Citadel (7 files in 2 directories): Citadel/BloodCouncil: tweaks
04:49.17steevwe are failing, epicly
04:49.45Groktarstill haven't made it past 14%
04:49.46Groktar:(
04:49.56steevat least you're on sindragosa :P
04:50.02Groktarhehe
04:50.17Groktarwishing that one rogue hadn't blown us up on putricide
04:50.20orionshockmorning all
04:50.22Groktarand wasted one of our attempts
04:52.27Funkeh`oh boy
04:52.32Funkeh`http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1135549
04:52.36Funkeh`I lol'd so hard
04:53.37Repo10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r278 FlightHUD.lua: Continuted development.
04:54.05PrimerI wish there was a way to commit and have it NOT appear on repo
04:54.29Arrowmasteryou can disable the annoucements per project
04:54.39Primerwell, I want to see some, but not all
04:54.46Primers/see/announce/
04:55.03steevwoo we got her under 50% that time
05:01.37Groktarsigh that was going to well
05:01.38Groktar*so well
05:01.55steevguess premo downed arthas
05:02.11steevthere be statues in the fountain in the center of dal
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05:13.59Groktarsindragosa doon!
05:14.00Groktarwoot woot
05:18.12PrimerHrmm, I've setup eclipse in windows, with svn+ssh in subclipse. Eclipse knows that I have cygwin, and runs ssh.exe to connect, but asks for the passphrase every time, despite ssh-agent running
05:18.34PrimerAnyone know how to make eclipse see the ssh agent?
05:24.23Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r1118 Tracker.lua:
05:24.25Repo- Annotate hits in the offensive details which also have a partial block associated with then. It will now look like this: Hit (Blocked)
05:26.41Repo10recountguessedabsorbs: 03Elsia * r24 GuessedAbsorbs_Mode.lua: - Add proper proc for Scarab Brooch.
05:35.25Groktarjust need music now
05:45.54digmousesimple English question: what is IA stands for? a spell
05:46.06Groktarhmm
05:46.26digmousedepending on the fight involved (and how much the mages benefit from IA)
05:46.28digmousein a blue
05:47.00Groktaryou mean the buff mages put on people to give them crit?
05:47.09digmouseah it's Incanter's Absorption
05:47.11digmousegot it
05:47.26digmouseGroktar: that's Focus Magic
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06:00.36Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2838 Datamine.lua:
06:00.38RepoIn the FILTER_STRINGS table for the profession dumps, fixed indices 39 through 43.
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06:20.25steevso whats this about paladin nerfs and dk buffs?
06:20.28spottedHello, can anyone suggest me an alternative to cartographer?
06:20.40spottedThere was one but I don't remember its name
06:21.56Wobinmapster?
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06:23.38spottedyeah
06:23.39spottedthanks
06:23.54spottedI quit wow some time ago and now I'm starting to play again. I forgot some names
06:24.00spotted:p
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06:26.06spottedwhat for the notes?
06:27.05asmodaia lot of people use handynotes
06:29.37spotteddone thanks
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06:40.31steevhttp://i47.tinypic.com/295rg5i.jpg
06:40.33steevhaha
06:40.44steevyou can tell half the raid are like f screenshots, lets go get bql
06:46.34Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7186 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: Citadel/Sindragosa: Add 10min berserk
07:01.53Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7187 Citadel (7 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Deathwhisper: Change deformed trigger
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07:43.31Raydenso what gear lists do people use for bears now?
07:43.40Raydeni'm trying to find good values to plug into wowhead, but i can't seem to find them
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08:14.10asmodaihttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/5/
08:18.13Fiskeryou wouldn't asmodai
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08:19.57olafskigiggle
08:20.00WobinI probably would totally play iHeal =P
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08:20.49olafskitakes away a lot of the clutter healers normally get on screen
08:20.58olafskithough I think I'd prefer it to be like grid
08:21.05olafskie.g. show all 25 people at once and just tap to heal them
08:24.23Fiskerthey nerfed me Wobin :(
08:24.29Fisker:( :(
08:24.38Fiskerlost 1,3k hp
08:24.40Fiskerbastards
08:24.50Raydenby clutter you mean a visual of the boss?
08:27.32Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7188 Citadel (8 files in 2 directories): Citadel/BloodCouncil: tweak icon description
08:27.34RepoCitadel/Festergut: Set icons on spores, viewable through the boss among other helpful things
08:28.37olafskifor instance rayden
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08:28.46olafskiother people, spell effects, sounds etc
08:30.43krkait's sort of sad when animations, effects, bosses, et.c. are all considered clutter compared to important raid frames, cooldown counters and actionbuttons
08:31.10olafskieven as a non healer I hardly look at the surroundings though
08:31.11krkasince looking at a boss is much less important than monitoring all your frames
08:31.21krkayeah same here
08:31.26olafskilast week I noticed something that should've been really obvious
08:31.29olafskiforgot what it was now though :/
08:31.30krkai only look at party frames any my rotations
08:32.20olafskiI only noticed that there is a really large dead pit lord in hellfire peninsula when I did the quests there on my 7th character or so
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08:40.05Repo10spamalyzer: 03yoshimo 07master * 3.3.0-1.0.1-4-gf2c641b Prefixes.lua: [+2 commits]
08:40.07Repof2c641b: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/spamalyzer/mainline
08:40.08Repo4c48f3b: Added Raid Roll
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08:47.30krkaolafski: who was it? that guy grom killed or something?
08:47.55olafskino clue.. aggonar or something I guess
08:47.58Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2839 / (15 files in 2 directories):
08:48.00olafskithe place is called pools of aggonar
08:48.00RepoNew file: Constants.lua - at the moment this only contains filter and acquire flags and their strings.
08:48.01RepoRe-worked every profession file to use the new flag tables.
08:48.08krkaah right
08:48.24olafskiseeing as the default view is slightly downward I had never noticed that
08:48.31olafskionly saw it because you can fly at lvl 60 nowadays :)
08:48.46olafskiI also have no idea how many legs anub'arak has for instance
08:49.16robotusch7
08:50.22olafskiwhen I first did molten core I took the time to look at the bosses :)
08:56.03nevcairielI still remember exploring TBC for the first time, it was so amazing. classic wow was usually so boring in landscape design, and then you run into zanga with the big mushrooms and the completly different landscapes, was really nice :P
08:56.21quiescensyou just like mushrooms
08:57.06olafskiI'm not sure if I even noticed there were mushrooms the first time
08:57.14olafskijust wanted to get to 70 in time for wotlk
08:57.57nevcairieli explored in tbc beta, so alot of time
08:58.04yoshimoi think tbc was a step up in design, i even liked doing 5mans ;)
08:58.34quiescensor so you think
08:58.45olafskiI loved 5mans in vanilla :<
08:59.00nevcairiel5mans in vanilla were kinda un-puggable
08:59.05olafskithe tbc ones aren't bad either though
08:59.07quiescensall 4 of them?
08:59.10nevcairielthey were all too long, so in the middle always one guy had to leave
08:59.19olafskiyeah that's kind of an issue :)
08:59.43olafskiI count about 7, quiescens.. not counting BRD I guess
08:59.53nevcairielhow is BRD not a dungeon?
08:59.59olafskinot a lvl 60 dungeon
09:00.04olafskiwell I guess it was back then
09:00.35nevcairielif you count stuff like diremaul as 3 instances with its 3 entrances, you get alot, too :d
09:00.49quiescenshow was it 7?
09:00.53olafskiI did count dire maul as 3
09:00.55olafskiand stratholme as 2
09:01.06quiescensthat's cheating!
09:01.11olafskimeh
09:01.13olafskidire maul is clearly 3
09:01.18olafskistratholme can be debated
09:01.23nevcairiel2 BRS, 3 DM, 2 Strat, 1 scholo, 1 BRD
09:01.26olafskibut both sides were long enough to count as a single one
09:01.27nevcairieldid i forget something?
09:01.32quiescensubrs
09:01.33olafskinevcairiel: UBRS isn't a 5man
09:01.34quiescenswasn't 5 man
09:01.37nevcairieloh right
09:01.43quiescensfine
09:01.46nevcairielbut back then people didnt think of it as a raid
09:01.55olafskino but they did do it with 15 people
09:02.06nevcairielwas kinda fun when they reduced it to 10
09:02.17nevcairielin the early days, people did scholomance with 10
09:02.20olafskiwhen we first went there we wiped a lot, even with 15 people
09:02.21nevcairielwhen it was still possible
09:02.26olafskiand yeah, strat/scholo also with 10 :)
09:02.36nevcairielwas kinda glad they reduced it to 5
09:02.42nevcairieland ubrs to 10
09:02.50olafskiyeah it was hard to find a 5man group to do the quests with ,)
09:03.21quiescensall you need to do is bring 3 mages to polymorph everything!
09:03.30olafskioO
09:03.45quiescenswhat is a sindragosa
09:03.52nevcairielsome dragon
09:04.02quiescensoh another dragon
09:04.05nevcairielGroktar is into that kind of thing
09:04.19Groktarwe still have 14 attempts for the lich king, too
09:04.25olafskibe sure to bring plenty of bombs
09:04.35yoshimohotfixed already olafski ;)
09:04.49olafskiyer I know :<
09:05.03olafskimy gf did icc with her new guild yesterday.. she looked like she had fun so I guess it's not a bad dungeon :P
09:05.20quiescensthe ban was probably a bit silly
09:05.33quiescensguess it depends on how um
09:05.36olafskiagreed.. but it seems the people who think that are a minority
09:05.40quiescensobvious it was that they were breaking something
09:06.36olafskioh nice, DK tank buffs
09:06.49Groktarif i accept ensidia's story, then i agree
09:06.50GroktarBUT
09:06.56Fiskerit's word against word
09:06.59Groktarthey didn't release the video
09:07.06Fiskerand given the history i'll trust Blizzard moar
09:07.07Groktarwhich concerns me
09:07.18Fiskeralso that Groktar
09:07.33Groktarif they were still tanking him in the middle and burning down valkyrs, then it's not much of an exploit
09:07.48olafskiif you notice you don't have to kill the valkyrs, why would you do it anyway
09:07.51Groktarand they won't show they did
09:07.54Groktaryeah
09:08.03quiescenshard to say but unless its obvious that it was completely intentional and they knew it wasn't meant to work that way
09:08.10nevcairielI'm sure they just ignored the valkyrs, considering how they didnt really kill anyone
09:08.12quiescensI would think the worst should be, removal of the kill
09:08.23Groktaroh, there's no way they didn't know it was bugged
09:08.34olafskiapparently some of them powerleveled engineering that day too
09:08.38olafskiI guess that's kinda obvious
09:08.56FiskerIt's also weird how he delays the bomb 30 seconds sometimes
09:09.06Fiskerof course not entirely sure what's in the encounter, but it's weird atleast
09:09.16quiescensanyway
09:09.31quiescensthis is why everything needs to be tested these days
09:09.40TorhalPeople are freaking out about Blessed. Not just Fisker.
09:09.49Fiskerwhat? :P
09:09.57nevcairielpeople are just stupid
09:10.19yoshimofisker is asking repo for that thing every 5m  ;)
09:10.27Fiskernaaaaaaaaaaaaw
09:11.00TorhalI suppose it's a good thing I'm a Warlock, then.
09:11.12quiescensreroll paladin
09:11.31robotuschhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Grochtar > Groktar imo
09:12.00robotuschjust need to find a decent armory pose :(
09:12.23Kuosiyou cant really go wrong with paladin these days
09:12.46Kuosilol big hps as holy, best tanking class and about the best hybrid dps
09:13.01Kuosiwhen you account all the buffs ret brings to the table
09:13.08nevcairieladditionally, no-one likes you
09:13.11nevcairielisnt it all great :D
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09:13.42Kuosihey all want a piece of my alt pala
09:14.02Kuosigot paid 2k to tank anub 25 on it:o
09:14.05yoshimobeing killed by four s7 retribution pallies on my t10 holy pally in wsg isnt really great ;)
09:14.25Kuosiok ret pala in pvp is just dire
09:14.38Kuosishould just bend over and roll holy or prot+ret if you still want to do dmg
09:14.51quiescensthey are nerfing prot hp
09:14.55quiescensnodnod
09:14.56Kuosialready did
09:15.02Kuosibut that doesnt really change anything
09:15.18Kuosiwith argent defender pala still has higher ehp than warrior and dk
09:15.20nevcairieli spontanely feel like playing my DK tank a bit
09:15.27Kuosinevcairiel: dont go there
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09:15.50Kuosithey might have given you a cookie, but it's all hollow inside
09:15.57olafskime too nevcairiel =)
09:15.58nevcairieli liked playing him before
09:15.59olafskithen again I play him daily
09:16.08nevcairielits not like i do raiding or anything
09:16.18KuosiMy dk doesnt have tank spec atm
09:16.25Kuosiand I'm about to vendor all the tank gear it has
09:16.37nevcairielI don't like playing DPS, its so boring
09:16.40nevcairielon any class, fwiw
09:16.58Kuosiit gets dull
09:17.07olafskiare those changes live already?
09:17.10Kuosiye
09:17.15KuosiI lost hum
09:17.22Kuosibit below 2k hp on pala i think
09:17.31olafskithat's quite a bit
09:17.36olafskilet's see how much hp I have now :<
09:17.37Kuosi47.4->45.8
09:17.41Kuosito be exact
09:17.58olafskiI assume the tooltips aren't updated yet?
09:18.08Kuosinot for the talents
09:18.27krkadruid dps is fairly fun, you never know when you need to switch to panic mode and do some healing or tanking
09:18.52olafskiguess I gained 56 stamina then
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09:20.58olafskinot a whole lot :P
09:23.23WobinKuosi, druid dps is JFM
09:23.36quiescenswhat is jfm
09:23.51nevcairieli interpreted that as just f'ing mad
09:25.02WobinJohn Fucking Madden
09:25.18Wobinhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3525757995_fd00d31d80_o.jpg
09:25.40olafskiI don't even recognise that center icon :$
09:25.50olafskiis that the lvl 75 skill that gives +X% damage?
09:25.54WobinSavage Roar
09:26.02Wobinyeah
09:26.11olafskiah
09:26.16olafskiI'm lvl 70, that would explain ;)
09:26.16Wobinor possibly more seriously: http://media.photobucket.com/image/kitty%20dps/slivers/KittyDPSRotation.jpg
09:26.28olafskiwell that first one seemed quite accurate
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09:26.53ReporuRU Festergut Spore icons & Lady Deathwhisper Deformed Fanatic messages
09:27.07WobinIt's just as accurate =)
09:27.23Funkeh`can you actually download an alpha copy of firefoz with the new gui
09:27.27Funkeh`cause i can't find one
09:27.28Wobincause despite how well it's laid out, there are very very few kitties that can pull it of precisely
09:27.29olafskiFFF UP? -no-> FFF UP? -->
09:27.31Fiskerfirefox sucks
09:27.43olafskithat should be FFF UP? -no-> FFF -->
09:27.50Wobinprobably =P
09:28.00Wobinso how did they nerf you Fisker?
09:28.05olafskilooks like it can be put it in an addon quite efficiently
09:28.12Fiskerour stamina talent got halved
09:28.23Fiskerlost somewhere around 1300-1500 hp
09:28.29olafskigg
09:28.32olafskiI gained some stamina
09:28.35olafskican you guess which class I play?
09:28.41Fiskerdk durr
09:28.41Wobindruid?
09:28.45olafskiclose wobin
09:28.49olafskibut no cigar
09:29.03olafskigained 56 stamina unbuffed
09:29.16olafskiand my tanking cd got improved a little ,)
09:29.58quiescensits a bit messy when you have to factor in movement and phase changes and adds and melee specific thingies
09:30.30olafskisure, this thing only works for singletarget I guess
09:30.39yoshimowhy do i get elitistgroup messages if im not grouped not in a guild and never have seen the person that sent it?
09:33.16mojosdojorepo is so slooooow
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09:34.48Wobinawsome DK changes
09:34.57olafskiyes :)
09:36.08WobinI might even play a bit more on him
09:38.14olafskiI always wonder if such a small buff will make guilds pass encounters they couldn't before
09:38.21olafskibut I can't complain when my class gets buffed
09:39.08Wobinwell it's a change that scales
09:39.45yoshimomhm i was invited to join a group, and the other one said i invited him.. but neither of us did it
09:40.58asmodaiOh, sweet
09:41.00asmodaihttp://blog.llvm.org/2010/02/clang-successfully-self-hosts.html
09:42.17olafskiwobin: aye but still, 2% more hp :<
09:42.34nevcairieloi so clang is basically usable now
09:42.50asmodainevcairiel: been for a while to be honest, I could compile quite a fair number of userland tools in BSD with it
09:44.58olafskido those cat dps charts generally have Cower in them btw?
09:45.26nevcairielif you need cower, you need a better tank
09:46.01olafskithought so
09:46.07olafskiwonder why they've given them that ability then :P
09:46.19nevcairielrogues have one too, and they dont use it either
09:46.27olafskiyet hunters have to use theirs
09:46.31olafskiand warlocks too I think
09:46.35nevcairielhunters are just fail :d
09:46.48nevcairielno idea why they produce so much threat
09:47.02olafskifor starters, no -threat talent
09:47.09olafskibut I guess druids don't have that either
09:47.23nevcairielbut in cat form the typical 20% reduction, or so
09:47.26nevcairiellike rogues
09:47.35Fiskerwhat is that asmodai ?
09:48.11olafskiseems cat form it's 0.71 threat
09:48.22olafskifor hunters it doesn't say anything so I assume it's 1.0
09:48.43olafskirogues 0.71 too, death knights get 0.8
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09:49.43olafskidestro and affliction both have talents to reduce threat by 10/20%
09:51.11olafskiso there you have it, hunters do 1 threat for every point of damage caused while most other dps classes do at most 0.8 threat ;)
09:51.23mojosdojofeign death anyone?
09:51.42asmodaiFisker: C/C++ compiler
09:51.55asmodaiFisker: But much more accurate than bloated and buggy GCC.
09:52.10Fiskeroh
09:53.08olafskimojosdojo: yes.. but we were talking about why they need that while other classes don't
09:53.44Brybryif a druid or rogue needed cower/feint they would be screwed
09:53.55Kuosicower/feint
09:53.57mojosdojoyeah, i get that
09:53.59quiescensfeint is worthwhile
09:54.02Kuosithey dont reduce threat for shit
09:54.06quiescensjust, not for the reason you think
09:54.09quiescenser
09:54.11quiescensthingy
09:54.14mojosdojosometimes they need to kite around
09:54.16quiescensnot for threat
09:54.16Kuosithe main reduction really comes from using the energy on non dmg ability
09:54.24Kuosinot from the ability itself
09:54.34quiescensfeint is good because of the big aoe damage taken reduction
09:54.36Brybrywell yeah, feint aoe damage reduction is amazing
09:54.42Kuosiy feint is good for the aoe part
09:54.44Brybrybut druids have that built in
09:54.50Kuosibut for threat
09:54.55Kuosiit's the same as autoattacking
09:55.08quiescensfor the purposes of the aoe damage reduction its a good damage boost
09:55.09quiescensnodnod
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09:56.00Kuosihunters could use some love on the threat
09:56.08Brybryor not
09:56.11Kuosior atleast make feign threat reset work quicker
09:56.45quiescensi would imagine a lot of people would argue that with feign and misdirect they have one of the better threat management options
09:56.54Brybry^
09:57.08Kuosion a standstill fight where you md something to the tank it's really no biggie
09:57.14Kuosibut when you have to swap targets etc
09:57.18Kuosihunter threat is kinda nasty
09:57.42Brybryonly if you're single targeting something the tank isn't
09:58.05Kuosidk tank + dreamwalker
09:58.08Kuositry that
09:58.25Kuosihorrible snap threat on tank
09:58.30Kuosiconstant target swapping
09:59.07Kuosinot saying there are many encounters where hunter threat is a problem
09:59.13quiescensits just that on balance, a lot of people would prefer that
09:59.16Kuosijust pointing out there are some
09:59.43quiescensrather than simply not having any viable threat control at all
10:00.02Kuosibut then again any reasonable guild doing those encounters wont use dk tank anyway!
10:00.22quiescensin return for talentable -10,20% threat
10:00.29quiescensthat a lot of people don't end up getting anyway
10:00.48Kuosifor affli it's simply not needed atleast
10:00.53Kuosionly for seed spam
10:01.00Kuosibig dmg ramp up time
10:01.12Kuosiand not like you're going to pull aggro half way to fight with soulshatter
10:01.46Brybrybefore soulshatter and % talents warlocks used to =)
10:02.02quiescens"before soulshatter" everyone used to
10:02.26Kuosiyou should have played horde fury war in vanilla
10:02.39Kuosi20% passive threat redu was absolutely nothing :(
10:05.24BrybryI pretty much only remember mages and locks wiping raids
10:05.41Brybrydps warriors just got quick swipe instagibbed
10:05.58nevcairielwarriors just get zomgfacesmashed and boss returns to tank
10:06.01Brybrydruids/shaman didn't do enough dps to pull aggro and hunters/rogues had pretty much the same aggro utilities then as now
10:06.13Kuosifury wars had the best threat reset
10:06.15Kuosisoulstone
10:06.40orionshocklol
10:06.53Brybrythat's what out of combat rezzers were for!
10:07.00orionshockKuosi, thought their aggro drop was called a repair bill
10:07.31orionshockiirc, even in the old days dps warriors didn't do enough dmg to warnt using a combat rez :P
10:08.09orionshock<PROTECTED>
10:09.36Brybryalso hunters kind of have built in % decrease aggro wise by being a pet class
10:10.17Brybryexcepting the unfortunate event in which the pet dies >_>
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10:12.31Kuosiorionshock: in naxx?
10:12.37Kuosifury war was tearing it up
10:12.47Kuosionly mage that stole all the ignites could do the same
10:13.27olafskiyer we had a few fury warriors in AQ that were nice too
10:13.59olafskibrybry: good point.. but even if the pet dies the hunter has less aggro though
10:14.18orionshockim from the old days of "If it tanks or heals then that's all it will ever be good for" ... sometimes i wish wow could go back to it.
10:14.28orionshockthings where much simpler back then
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10:31.42olafskisame orionshock :P
10:31.49olafskiI still giggle at shadowpriests
10:31.57olafskithough even in vanilla there were good shadowpriests
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10:33.06nevcairielhm shadow priests in vanilla .. did we actually have those
10:33.21olafskiwe did
10:33.32olafskithe same guy who said yesterday he'll quit wow now ;)
10:34.10nevcairieli think we had one or two
10:34.20olafskihe healed back then, but always in shadow spec
10:34.38olafskiI actually played shadow for a while too because of the +10% shadow damage buff
10:34.44olafskikilled our warlocks ;)
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10:46.14RepoHand-updated most of the Smelting database - still things to be done.
10:46.15RepoAdded support for specialties and reputation vendors to the profession dump.
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11:43.36olafskiwhere'd you find it?
11:45.50Groktaroh, in the back seat of your car
11:46.00Groktaryou should be more careful
11:46.05Groktarsomeone might steal it
11:46.06Groktaror nom it
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12:08.49RepoConvert all the recipe databases to the new format, thanks to Torhal's skillz.
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12:14.34RepoFixed an issue with the profession dump where reputation levels after the first were not converted to a human-readable form.
12:17.10winkI'm not exactly getting why ARL takes up 3-4MB of RAM and if that's just the ace tax
12:17.42winkmaybe I always find it horrible when the functions I use of an addon translate to formatting of a few hundred strings :P
12:19.07TorhalA few thousand.
12:19.19TorhalAnd it's static memory, for the most part.
12:19.45TorhalI've taken great pains to get rid of as much garbage as possible - roll back to a version from april of last year and compare :)
12:20.45winkTorhal: well, I have 2 profs at most. so several hundred "needed"
12:20.57winkand no, not starting a discussion, I love it and it's fine
12:21.19winkbut it's the same why I endlessly rant that my irc client uses up 70MB
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12:21.48winkthe /key/ part is channels*buffer size. - which in plain text is 5 MB
12:22.27winkjust because I have 4GB does NOT mean I'm willing to give up 100 per trivial app
12:22.37quiescenssure it does
12:22.56quiescenswhat use is free memory!
12:23.06winkI can use it for the big app I'm starting later
12:23.12TorhalOh, ARL only loads professions for which you actually open a tradeskill window for.
12:23.20TorhalAnywho - bed.
12:23.23winkbb
12:24.30olafskino version reply .. which irc client are you using wink?
12:24.45quiescenstelnet
12:24.58olafskisomehow I doubt that
12:25.20quiescens):
12:25.26olafskimine's taking up 3.5MB.. but maybe that's cheating ;)
12:25.36hasteseveral people have turned of CTCP version replies due to the CTCP version spam earlier
12:25.44olafskioh yeah
12:25.48olafskimyself included *headdesk*
12:25.58hasteneeds more f's
12:26.10quiescensclearly they're using the same client as you since you have no version reply either!
12:26.20olafskithat sounds.. sound
12:26.26olafskimust be then!
12:26.36olafskineither does mine
12:26.45quiescenso.O
12:26.49olafskiI believe mine would say 'lol wut' if I hadn't turned ctcp off
12:26.58hastemine says irssi!
12:27.02hastebut I'm using weechat
12:27.08quiescensgasp
12:27.08olafskiyou haxxer!
12:27.30hastether's a irssi proxy down the line tho' :P
12:27.31olafskiwe clearly need a "REAL_VERSION" ctcp command
12:28.06olafskiirssi proxy sounds funky
12:28.11olafskiI guess I should read up about that
12:29.36olafskihm. so I could use any client with a persistent connection
12:29.53olafskibut I guess I wouldn't have the advantage of being able to see what's said when I connect, like I do now
12:31.37quiescensexcuses
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12:35.37Fiskerswap wink
12:35.53winkswap what
12:36.27Fiskerswap memory
12:37.12winkolafski: oh, sorry. it's KVIrc - behind irrsi-proxy
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12:37.44olafskihmkay.. don't know that one, 70MB sounds a bit much for non-mirc
12:37.44winkirssi even
12:37.58olafskiI've been using just irssi for years, I like it ;)
12:38.19winkolafski: well, this one does not :) 10MB with 11 channels on 5 networks
12:38.29winkbut basically all I tried before
12:38.30olafskidoesn't look like this irssi has irssiproxy included, so I can't even test that
12:38.54winkbut tweetdeck for example - 110 MB
12:38.59winkI blame AIR
12:39.17Fiskerno
12:39.20Fiskeryou should blame yourself
12:39.27Fiskerstop being a retard, don't use twitter.
12:39.28winkthe general trend is that people waste memory nowadays like you wouldn't multitask
12:39.43winkFisker: I've used other AIR apps - it's the same!
12:39.58winkmiranda - 3mb, lovely.
12:40.11robotuschI propose that we blame Fisker instead
12:40.21vhaarrKemayo: bankstack is acting weird with the guild bank again
12:40.45vhaarrKemayo: I do /sort guild1, and then it says like "80 moves left", or whatever, then it just performs an arbitrary number of moves and says "Complete"
12:41.10vhaarrKemayo: I can repeat /sort guild1 until everything is sorted but I had to run it 7 times for tab1
12:41.18vhaarrand 5 times for tab2
12:41.19vhaarretc
12:41.29Fisker3 millibit?
12:41.32Fiskerthat's not a lot
12:42.58vhaarrhaste: haha, I remember I had mine set to some ancient mIRC version, that was fun when you entered large channels
12:43.07vhaarrall those weird CTCPs you got
12:43.23Fiskeroh yeah
12:43.26Fiskercrash bugs ftw
12:43.27winklol
12:43.29olafskiI wanted to do that but I could never be bothered to look up the version string for old mirc :P
12:43.39winkthink I didn't use mirc for 8 years now
12:44.04winkstill got a 6.16 laying round here though
12:44.17winkif some idiot decides to need mrc script bugfixing help :P
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12:56.53yoshimoim running v 6.35 of mirc and i dont think its that bad
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13:14.12AdamonWelps, that was fun fishing in SW.
13:14.18AdamonNow its time for me to sleep.
13:14.21AdamonGn all.
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13:46.40Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1292 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Ice Bound Fortitude is being hotfixed to -30%
13:46.42Repo- Devastate sunder portion is being icreased by 20% as well
13:46.43Repo- Quick fix for error on line 2395
13:48.49Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.5_release-2 * r1293 : Tagging as 1.7.5_release-2
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14:49.37steevah crap
14:49.46steevi agree with something Fisker said
14:50.53Fiskerbrr?
14:51.32Fiskerk steev
14:51.33FiskerK
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15:03.02Fiskertalk to me steev
15:12.20XtekMore cookies!
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15:18.48AbstractHwhat does the !Spellname do in a macro?
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15:18.56AbstractHNormally, it means not.
15:20.50LysitheaAbstractH my /cast !Mass Dispel prevents me from deactivating the targeting circle
15:21.02Lysitheaso if I spam it I dont acidently untoggle the targeting
15:22.19olafskiit means "cast if not already active"
15:22.28Megalonfor spells which you toggle with each cast
15:22.30AbstractHah! wonderful to know.
15:22.32olafskivery useful for "next attack" abilities
15:22.35Megalonit prevents it from untoggling
15:22.39olafskior or things such as hunter aspects
15:22.41AbstractHMakes sense for rune strike.
15:22.42olafski-or
15:22.43Fiskerdon't nerf me bro
15:22.47AbstractHI needed to understand that.
15:22.52olafskiyep for rune strike it does that, same with maul / heroic strike
15:22.57Megalon!bear form for example
15:23.04Megalonwill powershift you into bear, even if you are already
15:24.41Fisker!monkey boy will powershift you into ballmer? :3
15:26.45Megalonnope
15:26.54Megalon!developersdevelopersdevelopers will
15:27.03asmodaiIs it 5 o'clock yet?
15:27.37haste~developers
15:27.38purldevelopers is probably http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
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15:37.04sb|workasmodai: dont ask, just go home!
15:37.22asmodaiwoot!
15:38.41sb|workmeh btw, are profession windows bugged (cant search, no categories, ...) or is it some addon messing around?
15:39.10mojosdojoblizzard failure
15:39.20mojosdojoopen the window a few times
15:39.29mojosdojoit will go away eventually
15:39.54sb|workwtf, how did they do that - there was no changed related to professions iirc :o
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15:48.30marshendo my addons allways need approval if i upload them or only if i upload via ZIP file?
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15:52.34ckknightif you upload a zip
15:52.40ckknightif you use the repo, manual approval is not needed
15:53.05quiescensBC
15:53.10quiescensoops
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15:54.18marshenthx ckknight... tried to avoid installing tortoise crap on my gaming pc =)
15:54.30ckknighthmm
15:54.47ckknightalso, marshen, if you're using wowace, you can't upload ZIPs
15:54.51ckknightZIPs are only for curseforge
15:55.31marshenim not really exerienced what i should use or not ,)
16:01.35ckknightmarshen: be strong, vigilant, smart. Use some kind of revisioning software.
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16:10.19Repo10big-wigs: 03s8095324 * r7195 Citadel/Locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update
16:14.07MegalonMS word, the save every version of the document, in the document!
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16:19.30nevcairieldurcyn: mind if i hijack your started ace3 port of quartz and finish it?
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16:28.31Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7197 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories):
16:28.33RepoCitadel/Sindragosa: change Unchained -> Instability. add Unchained warning. koKR Update
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16:40.59marshenckknight thank you for motivating me using svn ^^
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16:41.08ckknightI didn't motivate you to use svn
16:41.11ckknightsvn sucks hardcore
16:41.13ckknightI hate svn
16:41.26nevcairielhaha
16:41.53marshenlol
16:42.11marshenbetter than uploading .zip or learning how to use another repository type
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16:44.39RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bigwigs_sindragosaicons/. BigWigs_SindragosaIcons. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
16:46.40Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7198 Northrend/Toravon.lua: Toravon: Fix issue count :/
16:50.37winkwas there a pitbull update today? broken it seems
16:51.51Repo10big-wigs: 03LCF_HeLL * r7199 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: Sindragosa: ruRU update
16:52.17ckknightwink: how's it broken?
16:52.30winkI see a faint shadow of the tatrget frame
16:52.36winkand colors are totally off
16:52.50wink100% = dead gfx
16:53.46winkwill try relogging though
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16:57.04ckknightwink: fully close WoW, log back on
16:57.15winkyup
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17:01.18durcynnevcairiel: you can have it
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17:01.58durcynand if wowace.com would load, i'd assign it to you
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17:02.34nevcairieli can commit to anything anyway
17:02.38renchap/act/
17:02.48nevcairielbut yeah the page seems slow
17:03.57winkckknight: it went back to ok whn I left my random heroic :P strange
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17:13.33nevcairielany hunter around?
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17:14.21Caleb|banned hunter counts?
17:14.28nevcairielsure
17:14.42nevcairieli just need to know if there is any ability that can reset your auto-shot
17:14.52Caleb|not that I know of
17:14.56nevcairieli know aimed shot used to, but it doesnt anymore
17:15.07Fiskerthere isn't
17:15.14Caleb|there was some bugs with the new bow from ICC tho
17:15.18Fiskeryeah
17:15.20Fiskerbut it's fixed
17:15.24Caleb|yep
17:15.29nevcairielok, thanks
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17:36.38Repo10reflux: 03kagaro * r38 Reflux.lua: Fixed a possible empty table check in show command
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18:01.16Chosiis there a site that lists mmorpgs by current subscriptions?
18:01.23Chosimmorpg.com doesn't seem to have numbers
18:02.19nicoli_snah, there used to be a site but its not current
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18:05.31Fiskerwell no new numbers from Blizzard recently
18:05.35Fiskeratleast not to my knowledge
18:05.46Fiskerthey probably won't announce anything until they get china back
18:06.58Chosijust wondering how many ppl are playing RoM
18:07.33nicoli_swho knows
18:07.47Chosi2 million oct 09
18:07.54Chosii doubt it's still the same
18:07.55Chosi:)
18:08.17asmodaiRoM?
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18:09.44olafskirunes of magic or something?
18:09.54olafskirepublic of macedonia?
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18:10.14nicoli_srunes of magic
18:11.08asmodaiAh
18:11.34asmodaioh christ
18:11.37asmodaianother micro payment one?
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18:22.15Kemayovhaarr: Interesting. I wonder if they changed something in the patch. I suppose I'll have to go try sorting a guild bank.
18:22.34KemayoI should really add a shuffler to bankstack for development.
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18:25.20NeoTronFallout: New Vegas trailer if you haven't seen it - http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/videos.html
18:25.23NeoTronFisker: meow
18:26.00nicoli_slike newer than the other one?
18:27.00asmodaiTeaser trailer I reckon
18:27.24NeoTronI haven't seen it
18:27.33FiskerNeoTron woof?
18:27.43NeoTronnicoli_s: it's a new game. like Fallout 3.5 - same engine I gather, but entirely new content and starting over from level 1 I guess
18:28.08NeoTronETA on release this fall or something
18:28.29nicoli_syah i know, but the trailer is a few days old by now
18:29.48NeoTronah that I don't know
18:29.57NeoTronI haven't kept too up to date on it
18:30.06NeoTronfigure I'd know it when I know it, long before it's released :P
18:30.09Kemayovhaarr: A quick test of guild bank sorting didn't cause any problems. But there's not much in that guild bank... I'll keep prodding it, see if I can reproduce anything.
18:31.06Fiskerwhy did you meow at me NeoTron ?
18:31.11GagorianNeoTron: Hay. Did you see my latest question regarding 4p T9?
18:32.01Kemayovhaarr: Ah, there we go. Dumping a char's entire inventory in helped reproduce.
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18:40.27sb|workhm i see
18:40.33sb|work3 holy priests are useless for dreamwalker :P
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18:44.28Repo10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r106 Modules/ItemName.lua: filter regex characters in ItemName match.
18:45.37Repo10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r49 MacroBank.lua: Fix error when blizzard macro ui is loaded early.
18:46.49NeoTronGagorian: I didn't no
18:48.29GagorianNeoTron: For some reason the 2p T8 set bonus (with 10% to Immolate) is bugged and buffs also the conflagrate of shadowflame, I'm wondering if 4p T9 does the same :)
18:48.55GagorianCould you possibly check that too for me?
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18:49.26NeoTronI'll try to remember for tonight
18:49.48GagorianThe 2p T8 gives 10% to the shadowflame conflag DD, but nothing to the DoT
18:50.00GagorianSo basically that's what you should be looking out for
18:50.08james33where does pastamancer hang out these days?
18:50.15NeoTronwill do
18:50.59Fisker~seen pastamancer
18:51.02purlpastamancer is currently on #curseforge, last said: 'hahaha, epic fail'.
18:51.08Fiskerthere you go
18:51.22Axodioushey, is there an easier way to do a petattack macro for a specific target other than targetexact chains?
18:51.30Axodiousright now im doing like
18:51.45Axodioustargetexact mob1, petattack, targetexact mob2, shadow bolt
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19:40.28mitchnulllua> print(tonumber(nil), tonumber("one"))
19:40.32lua_botmitchnull: nil, nil
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19:42.07mitchnullanyone got experience with fontstring's SetWidth?
19:42.25mitchnulldo I need to set it every time I :SetText() ? or just once?
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19:48.51sb|workIngela: mh.. killed her
19:49.04Ingelanice
19:49.35Ingelayou disc or holy?
19:49.45sb|workholy
19:49.47sb|workbut it doesnt matter
19:49.59sb|workonly 1 GS really possible
19:50.14sb|workso next time i will be disc
19:50.18sb|workbut wtf, nerf shammys :)
19:50.38Ingelai had gs glyphed did it like 4-5 times
19:50.56sb|workbut theres a debuff
19:51.01sb|workthat prevents another GS for 40s
19:51.05Ingela:O?
19:51.27sb|workyea
19:51.29sb|workweakened spirit
19:51.32sb|workmaybe hotfixed in
19:51.47Ingeladoes it actually prevent you from casting it
19:51.49Ingelaor just no effect?
19:51.51sb|workyes
19:51.54sb|workprevent from casting
19:52.09Ingelamust have been hotfix then because i knew i threw a lot of them
19:52.20sb|workhttp://www2.wowhead.com/?spell=72232
19:52.22sb|workthats the one
19:52.29sb|workso more than 1 is useless
19:54.25sb|workhm, i did only 10k, wtf :/
19:55.02Ingelado you have a log for it?
19:56.22sb|workyea
19:56.25Ingelasb|work, i just looked i threw 4 gs
19:57.16sb|workhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/17ns8b7ubwpltptp/sum/healingDone/?s=6274&e=6686
19:57.59Fiskeryou can't stop me
19:58.09sb|workbut yea... you had much more guardian spirit then
19:58.38sb|workand i was killed :/
19:59.02Ingelaat least you didn't cheese it and run 10 healers
19:59.08Ingelalike some of our guilds
19:59.17Ingelaon our realm :)
19:59.28Pneumatusdoes divine hymn debuff her as well?
20:00.47Kuosinop
20:01.01KuosiIngela: why would u cheese something so trivial!
20:01.14Kuosipull collect loot and start thinking about sindragosa
20:03.38Ingela:)
20:05.55sb|workpfff ;p
20:05.59sb|workbut yea, wasnt that hard
20:10.00BaraiusDid someone break the forums?
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20:11.05BaraiusAhh there we go :-)
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20:23.19Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r133 / (4 files in 3 directories): add option to specify max text width (ticket-8) [drycode]
20:23.44mitchnullanyone care to test that ^^^ ?
20:23.53mitchnullfisker: ^^
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20:24.46Fiskeri'm watching movieeeeeeeeeeeeeees
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20:25.24mitchnullmeh
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20:37.28mitchnullfisker: if you get bored of your moveeeees, test the new bazooka alpha and gief feedback. thanksalot :)
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20:42.08Shadowedit appears curse got a realllllly high budget for points this week
20:42.13Shadoweds/week/month/
20:42.41nevcairielyeah, about 50% more then last
20:42.53Shadowedyea
20:52.07nicoli_stoo bad i get nothing from it :(
20:53.17Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.7.1-1-g9e63e05 ElitistGroup.lua: [+1 commit] Trying a fix if itemQuality returns nothing, although this shouldn't happen
20:53.29Ackisnicoli_s: you get my appreciation
20:56.50Shadowedhe appreciates the 0.0000001th of a penny you contribute!
20:56.51Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2843 Database (10 files in 1 directory): Removed the nil's for the specialties.
20:56.53RepoFixed the replevel names instead of numbers.
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20:57.52nicoli_swell thank you ackis
20:58.05Fiskerbtw mitch0
20:58.07nicoli_sitd be nice if my war and rom curseprofiler addons get my points but oh well
20:58.13FiskerText with colors = fucked up
20:58.29Ackisnicoli_s: you wouldn't get points because those don't work :P :D
20:58.39Fiskeralso if you specify a length longer than the text it's either blank or have whitespace between the icon and the text
21:00.19nicoli_sAckis: they work, their uploads are just ignored :P
21:03.17Fiskerya hear me mitchnull?
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21:07.24mitchnullfisker: sorta
21:07.30mitchnulldon't understand fully though
21:08.13mitchnullfisker: what's wrong with text and color?
21:08.42Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7201 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
21:08.44RepoCitadel/LichKing:
21:08.46Repo- Rewrite Necrotic Plague
21:08.47Repo- Fix Defile.
21:08.48Repo- Add Infest, Soul Reaper
21:09.02Fiskermy guess would be that the max witdh doesn't take into account the color code
21:09.37mitchnullwasn't the colored texts broken before r133 then?
21:09.50mitchnulls/badgrammar/goodgrammar/
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21:10.47Fiskerno it works
21:11.45Fiskerlike if i had a text like this: \124cffe5cc80\124YourMother
21:12.17FiskerThen specifying a max length of 10 would only yield "Yo..."
21:12.38mitchnullfisker: erm, that "10" is in pixels
21:12.52Fiskerwut? :o
21:13.00mitchnulllittle points on the screen
21:13.10Fiskeryarrgh
21:13.12mitchnullabout 1024 of those make a line
21:13.15Fiskeri know what it is
21:13.18mitchnullfrom left to right
21:13.19mitchnull:P
21:13.21Fiskeri might just hate you
21:14.24Fiskergot closetgnome though?
21:14.45mitchnullyeah, but I don't have a subscription presently ;)
21:14.51Fiskeroh
21:15.36Fiskerwell if the max witdh exceeds the witdh of the text itself it gets pushed to the right
21:15.51mitchnulloh
21:15.53Fiskersuck on that mitch0
21:15.57mitchnullit might be a bad default
21:16.01mitchnullof the fontsring
21:16.09Fisker:E?
21:16.18mitchnullsec
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21:17.09Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-32-g08ae2fe Modules/LuaTexts/LuaTexts.lua: [+1 commit] Fix error that occurs in some rare cases while loading.
21:18.53Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1294 / (10 files in 2 directories): - Fixed Black Ice applying incorrectly to Scourge Strike
21:18.55Repo- Fixed the DrDamage:GetModifier() function I temporarily had to disable in the last release. Now it feeds a metatable to prevent nil key errors in the future releases.
21:18.57vhaarrKemayo: ah cool, back from work now if you need help testing it
21:20.04Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r134 Bazooka.lua: hopefully fix right floating text
21:20.20mitchnullfisker: ^ try that
21:20.52mitchnullfisker: and thanks. also don't be mad at them pixelz
21:24.09mitchnullactually, I think that won't solve it :(
21:27.34durcynckknight: fix repo already
21:30.28Repo10simple-chat-mods: 03Rabbit * r117 channelnames.lua: Add dungeon guide abbrevation.
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21:39.07FiskerNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WobWork
21:41.23Fiskerfixed mitchnull
21:48.13mitchnullfixed: good. thanks
21:49.14mitchnullmeh
21:49.17mitchnullneed sleep
21:49.28mitchnulls/fixed/fisker/ :)
21:51.37Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7202 Citadel/LichKing.lua: Citadel/LichKing: fix drycoded errors.
21:55.49mitchnullrepo is teh slow today
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21:58.34Repo10big-wigs: 03onyxmaster * r7203 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU Lich King messages and triggers
21:58.35Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r135 Bazooka_Options/Options.lua:
21:58.36Arrowmasteri dont think its repo, the site has been slow too
21:58.37Repoadd the current text width to the tooltip of max text width option
22:00.17mitchnullfisker: if you're still around, would you check r135? (check the tooltip thing)
22:00.26mitchnullhopefully it'll help with the pixelz :P
22:02.39mitchnullactually, I hope it doesn't return something like 120.0030045563312
22:04.01mitchnullcan :GetStringWidth() return fugly numbers like that ^^ ? or it always returns integers?
22:04.38Fiskersure
22:06.19Fiskerwhat am i looking for mitchnull?
22:06.37mitchnullthe "Max Text Width" option should have a tooltip with the current text width in it
22:07.01mitchnulltest it on something that has label or text enabled and actually shows stuff
22:07.11Fiskernope :o
22:07.22mitchnullhrmp
22:11.10mitchnullit should show up when you move the mouse over the text area I think
22:11.27mitchnulldo you see any tooltip at all, just without a number in it?
22:11.37Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7204 Citadel/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update
22:14.41mitchnullah
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22:15.53Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r136 Bazooka_Options/Options.lua: make the tooltip show integer value always
22:16.49mitchnulllua> print(tostring(nil))
22:16.50lua_botmitchnull: nil
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22:20.36Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r137 Bazooka_Options/Options.lua: force string result for the desc function
22:26.50StanzillaShefki: any eta for bossframes in pb? :>
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22:29.15ShefkiStanzilla: *shrug* Like I've said before I want to make them as adhoc groups something we don't have the ability to do.
22:29.30ShefkiI could shove them in as singletons in 5 minutes, but that'd suck.
22:30.04Stanzillahrm :/
22:30.54ShefkiFor all practical purposes arena and boss frames are the same issue.
22:32.53steevFisker's mom is a bossframe
22:33.31steevShefki: why don't we have the ability to do adhoc groups?
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22:37.21Shefkisteev: The group support we have is entirely based around Blizzard secure templates, which are of no help with the boss mods or arena frames.
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22:39.26steevahh
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22:42.16FiskerWobin
22:42.18Fiskerdamn you
22:42.20FiskerDAMN YOU WOBIN
22:43.47mitchnullfisker: forget wobin. check r137 :) (still the tooltip thing)
22:44.55Fiskerhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=23042534104#9 <-confirmed iTards only
22:45.00nevcairielwtf is shadowstorm damage? shadow/nature?
22:45.12Fiskeri think it's arcane shadow
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22:47.14Fiskerdoesn't update mitchnull
22:47.37Fisker......
22:47.47Fisker"Scammers using VPN it seems O.o"
22:48.00Fisker"the IP when googled got me some results from UK somewhere, some other search results gave it as a VPN tunnel"
22:48.31Fisker(Note: It gave no actual results per se, but some chinese sites listed it and had "vpn" in the name)
22:48.40FiskerGm response:
22:48.42Fisker"Clearly you know you tech and it's really great to see this kind of vigilant investigation."
22:48.44Fisker.........................................
22:48.58Fiskeromg i googled an ip i must be teh wr0lds best tech
22:49.17FiskerFYI the IP was just registered to an UK host-provider
22:49.24Fiskerso could be anything
22:49.56WobinFisker, Had issues with your JC daily? =P
22:50.10Fisker4 kills :(
22:50.42WobinFisker, You should have asked if they used Tracer-T to figure that out =P
22:50.48Fiskerhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=213.229.82.116&aq=f&aqi=&oq= <-AMAGAD ITS A VPN
22:51.11Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2844 / (2 files in 1 directory):
22:51.36RepoFixed some errors when trying to expand all.  Still a problem with enchanting though.
22:51.59Ali1331Right so can anyone explain this repository thing to me? It's completely over my head
22:52.09durcynfisker i hate you for linking that thread
22:52.24durcyni can smell the ozone from evaporated brain cells just reading it
22:52.54ArrowmasterAli1331: for what purpose?
22:52.57Fiskerbtw mitch0
22:53.15Ali1331Well I wanted to put an addon of mine on wowace
22:53.22Arrowmasterput it on curseforge
22:53.31Fiskerthe huge amount of whitespace you achieve by specifying a max length doesn't change the space
22:54.31Fiskerit almost aggrevates me to be on the EU CS forums
22:54.49Ali1331Well I already 'made' the page on wowace I just haven't a clue how to upload it
22:54.58Ali1331I have to remake it on curseforge?
22:55.00Fiskeri called someone out on just making a thread with the intent of having him bypass the queue
22:55.08Fiskerand was told to remain civil lol
22:55.28Fiskerand i was just telling him that opening a ticket in-game would be quicker
22:55.30Arrowmasteryou could get it moved to curseforge then you would be allowed to upload zips
22:56.09Ali1331Is that the only difference between the two? wowace and cf I mean, one uses repo and the other direct upload?
22:56.28Arrowmastercf can use either, but zip uploads are disabled on wowace
22:57.10Ali1331How do I move it then
22:57.16Ackisi'll do it for you
22:57.53Ackishttp://wow.curseforge.com/addons/tooltiptabs/
22:58.08Ali1331Ah thank you very much
22:58.16Ackisyou're welcome
22:58.29harli'm looking for an addon that can replace the long lines of an item's tooltip with shorter versions, something like "ArP: 46" or "ArP: 3,29%".
22:58.38RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tooltiptabs/. ToolTipTabs. Ali1331 (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
22:58.47Ackisslow Repo is slow
22:58.51harlany ideas?
22:58.52Ali1331Heh
22:59.00mitchnullfisker: "the huge amount of whitespace you achieve by specifying a max length doesn't change the space" <-huh?
22:59.42RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/cooldownicons-revamped/. CooldownIcons R(evamped). xhatix (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis.
23:00.50mitchnullfisker: start making sense please
23:01.19Ackismitchnull: don't hold your breath
23:02.01mitchnullone can always hope
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23:08.59mitchnullfisker: if you were trying to say that even if you set max text width to like 1000, the display still doesn't add any extra space after the text, then it's just how it should be
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23:20.45vhaarrany curse admins around?
23:20.48vhaarrAckis?
23:26.29GagorianAnyone have any suggestions on a file search utility that allows to search the contents of the files and display the found line without actually opening the file?
23:26.42mitchnullgrep -r
23:26.44SunTsuGagorian: grep?
23:26.51SunTsuor "find" on windows
23:27.17GagorianI was thinking of something with a GUI
23:27.24mitchnullkgrep
23:27.26mitchnull:P
23:27.46GagorianAnd for windows? :p
23:27.54SunTsuwhy would you need a gui for something like that? Maybe beagle or some other desktop search
23:28.12mitchnullgrep -r "lala" . > lala.txt ; notepad lala.txt
23:29.13mitchnullgagorian: or some IDE (like eclipse)
23:29.39mitchnullthat's kinda overkill though, but it'd work. and it's GUI :)
23:30.29mitchnullhm. come to think of it, I"m not sure it displays the actual line
23:30.41Arrowmasterby limiting yourself to windows you are excluding all the acceptable answers for your question
23:30.54Gagorian!
23:31.26SunTsuArrowmaster: there is always cygwin ;)
23:31.34Arrowmasterno
23:31.37Arrowmastermsys
23:31.55Arrowmastercygwin is never an acceptable answer
23:32.11NechcknWhat about the "Find" in files option of Notepad++?
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23:33.30Repo10quartz: 03Nevcairiel 06ace3 * r50 / (6 files in 2 directories):
23:33.30Arrowmasterthat might be acceptable, i dont know about notepad++ but in SciTE that runs findstr on windows but you can make it use grep if youve got it installed
23:33.33Repo- Finished the port of the core and color configuration to Ace3
23:33.34Repo- Ported the Player module to the new core and (mostly) fixed configuration for Ace3
23:33.36Repo- Disabled all other modules until they are fixed
23:36.33NechcknGagorian  I'd say http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/download.php Via the "Search" "Find in Files"
23:36.57GagorianYeah I checked it out
23:37.02GagorianLooks like what I had in mind
23:37.06Nechckncan even use regex is you like
23:37.06GagorianThanks
23:37.30Nechckntoo bad you need the "whole" thing, but it's not too big and basically free.
23:38.17Nechcknhey, hey... leave some for everyone else!  ;-)
23:38.45GagorianMyeah, but I guess I could try using it as my editor too

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