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00:00.21Megalonjust use the feature to auth with your password as the serverpassword
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00:07.59Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r404 modules/CopyChat.lua: make x-realm chat copy work
00:12.27Repo10big-wigs_pizza-bar: 03profalbert 07master * v1.3.5-1-gb2cc19e PizzaBar.lua: [+1 commit] display custom timers started by deus-vox-encounters
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00:16.04Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r405 / (3 files in 3 directories):
00:16.06Reporestore the preprocessing tags that i messed up by checking in an output file
00:21.49sylvanaarقاف
00:25.51Tentacledwhat's the current preferred EasyMenu replacement that can do a bloody non-mindbogglingly-broken several levels deep dropdown menu..?
00:28.32Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r252 / (4 files in 4 directories): --another mining run
00:28.33Repo--more daily items
00:29.51Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v2.2 * r38 : Tagging as v2.2
00:32.12Repo10incubator2: 03Morgalm * r12 Modules/Incubator2_ICC/ICC.lua: Incubator2
00:32.13Repo-added ICC dreamwalker/sindragosa trash
00:45.04Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r159 / (7 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 7 lines)
00:46.19RepoMorgDKP2
00:46.20Repo-fix for small list dkp tab if empty
00:46.22Repo-added new member dkp to export if option enabled
00:46.23Repo-added new member dkp event name if enabled
00:46.24Repo10incubator2: 03Morgalm 04v1.03 * r13 : Tagging as v1.03
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01:02.49Repo10big-wigs_pizza-bar: 03profalbert 07master * v1.3.5-6-geea6a88 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
01:02.50Repoeea6a88: update changelog
01:02.52Repoa1f67ed: broadcast /bwpb timers to DXE as well
01:02.53Repo0950285: code cleanup
01:02.55Repo0f72cde: add /bwpb slashcommand to broadcast bars on all bossmods
01:04.25Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7233 Plugins/Tips.lua: Clean up tips.
01:10.45Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7234 / (2 files in 2 directories):
01:10.46RepoDon't use the same sound for two different abilities@Sindragosa.
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01:29.20Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7235 Plugins (2 files in 2 directories):
01:29.21RepoLast round of tip tweaks for the night, anyone promoted in the raid can now send tips.
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01:46.58Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.6-release-2-g201ad90 SickOfClickingDailies_AltTracking/core.lua: [+1 commit] local another function too
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02:23.03Groktarabout to start arthas
02:23.04Groktarwhee
02:24.19SilowyiGroktar
02:24.21Silowyiyou're late
02:24.22Silowyi:P
02:24.38NivFreakwtb sindragosa kill
02:24.43NivFreak:)
02:25.53Tentacledwtb Sindragosa human form
02:26.02Groktarwe killed her on thursday
02:26.31NivFreakwe did not even pull her in 25s this week
02:26.34NivFreakour healers had to l2dps
02:26.49NivFreakor I guess really, l2rollbuffs
02:28.37Groktarheh
02:28.53Groktardreamwalker was pretty lol
02:30.04NivFreakas I learned from razouvious
02:30.13NivFreakputting healers in control positions can be less than fun
02:30.33Groktarhehe
02:30.40Groktarwe have good dps
02:30.48Groktarso they can take their time figuring it out
02:31.10NivFreakyou treadmill when you hit soft enrage
02:31.12NivFreakhard to avoid
02:41.26Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r7236 / (5 files in 3 directories): BigWigs:
02:41.27Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
02:42.07Groktarlol phase 1 is the ultimate furry warrior phase
02:42.09Groktar14k dps...
02:42.21Groktarincluding not doing much in p2
02:43.32steevwe're failing at dreamwalker currently :/
02:43.56steevblazing skeletons are owning us cuz people aren't switching fast enough
02:44.20Groktaryeah, we wiped our first attempt from that
02:44.31Groktarone got off 3 ticks at 95%
02:44.35Groktarand we wiped at 99.8
02:45.02steevouch
02:45.42steevwe're not getting that far
02:46.21Groktar:(
02:46.34steevi think our first attempt we healed her to 54%
02:46.42Groktarthe hell
02:46.46steevi keep tryin to suggest that our 2 spriests go healy
02:47.06steevright now we're at, 3 resto druids, 1 resto shaman, 1 disc priest
02:47.08Groktarshe should be at like 60% before there are any adds worth mentioning :(
02:47.31Groktarslows down after that tho
02:47.45Groktari think?
02:47.56Groktari don't remember, only pulled her twice lol
02:48.48StanzillaAfter each region's maintenance this week, raids will no longer lose attempts on wipes in Normal mode for Professor Putricide, Blood-Queen Lana'thel, Sindragosa, and the Lich King. There will still be limited attempts in Heroic mode.
02:48.53Stanzillao m g
02:48.57Stanzillahow lame is that
02:49.12Groktaryay!
02:52.03WobWorkStanzilla: hehe you knew it was going to happen
02:52.10WobWorkand it'll happen again
02:53.45Groktarhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-2a0tkxbsdzkle4cp/sum/damageDone/?s=0&e=89
02:53.50GroktarCLEAVETAR SMASH!
03:01.32steev70% that attempt
03:01.47Groktar68% lol
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03:03.03Groktari died early :(
03:04.01Groktarwas pulling 17.5k until i died
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03:16.40Megalonoh noes, casuals will down the lich kin in a few week
03:16.51MegalonWHERE IS MY QQ TISSUE
03:22.14quiescens..
03:22.22quiescensthat's a terrible argument
03:22.41quiescenscasuals won't kill lich king because of a removal of the limited attempts mechanic
03:22.49quiescenscasuals wouldn't *do* 10+ attempts
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03:30.22steevGroktar: i'm not going in the portal :(
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03:31.21quiescensexcuses
03:33.29Groktarat least we saw the valkyrs that time
03:35.38steev*sigh*
03:35.45steevis fail
03:37.07pompyblizz made the love fool item a one time use now, thats really dumb
03:41.15WobWorkpompy: especially since it's so expensive =(
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03:43.06pompyWobWork: yeah, and the drop rate on the charms are really stupid too
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04:00.14steevpompy: invite random person, convert to raid enter uld, talk to brann, hop in demo, shoot first 3 towers, wait at bottom of ramp, mash 1
04:01.08WobWorkexactly
04:01.10WobWorkoh
04:01.16WobWorkand have 30 slots free in your bags
04:02.24steevi just drop everything in my bank but the charm collector
04:02.47WobWorkyou have space in your bank?!
04:02.49WobWorkcrazy man
04:07.04pompyyeah my bank is full
04:07.05pompylol
04:08.52steevwell sell that shit
04:08.59steevyou don't need it
04:09.28WobWorkit's sadly true
04:09.41WobWorkI keep certain pieces for reminscence
04:09.46WobWorklike my DK starter gear
04:11.00steevi have both sets in my bank of dk starter gear :)
04:11.11Killmorenice
04:11.12KillmoreAfter each region's maintenance this week, raids will no longer lose attempts on wipes in Normal mode for Professor Putricide, Blood-Queen Lana'thel, Sindragosa, and the Lich King. There will still be limited attempts in Heroic mode
04:11.23steevwelcome to the conversation an hour ago
04:11.38steevi'm a fan personally
04:11.42steevsince our guild is kinda fail
04:11.51steevbut we try, so it works
04:11.58arkanesI'm surprised they made that jump so soon
04:11.59WobWorkKillmore: where's the link for that, btw?
04:12.20arkanesI thought they were going to go with a +stats aura instead
04:12.47steevjust put some fires in randomly, that remove chill of the throne imo
04:13.06arkanesor an item you can spawn manually
04:13.15arkanesheh that'd be funny
04:13.17steevbasic cooking firex25 GO!
04:13.21arkaneshandwarmer of the argent dawn
04:13.33arkanessteev: you mean you don't use those already? +4 spirit, man
04:13.43steevi know, we're fail like that
04:14.30arkanesback when environment damage would proc reckoning and redoubt, and when those things mattered, I'd tank standing on one
04:16.35quiescenscarpet the encounter area with campfires
04:16.38quiescensfor the spirit buff
04:17.10quiescensthere should be an advanced campfire
04:17.12quiescensat 450 skill
04:17.33Killmoresteev: yeah its indead a good change, we manage to get to the lich king tonight in 25 men with 6 try left
04:18.04arkanesfrigging superbowl killed our raid schedule
04:18.10quiescensi don't think it is much of a change for the majority of people
04:18.15arkaneswe got no end wing bosses last week
04:18.44quiescensa lot of guilds are probably either good enough not to need all the attempts for normal mode
04:18.51WobWorkwhere's the link to the info for that?
04:18.58arkanestheres a blue post
04:19.07arkanesjust look at any blue tracker
04:19.09quiescensor don't have the time to do 10/15/whateveritis attempts
04:23.54pompyWobWork: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23042295833
04:26.21WobWorkpompy: much appreciated
04:29.38steev74% that time :/
04:29.48steevtime to go look at all the elitist qq
04:41.36MysticalOSwe had 20 attempts left and our sunday raid attendance was so low we didn't kill sindragosa or get any LK attempts in
04:41.55MysticalOS12 people showed up
04:42.04quiescensdamn casuals, they should make it so that if you wipe your character is lost to the lich king forever
04:42.05MysticalOSwen normally we have 5 on standby
04:42.20quiescensblizzard is making the game too easy omj
04:42.31MysticalOSwow hardcore server rawr, you die you have to start all over again, diablo style
04:42.35quiescenshardcore raiders should be the only ones allowed to see progression content
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04:43.01quiescenseveryone else should be content with seeing stuff 10 levels after its out
04:43.25quiescenswhat do you think this is, a game or something
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05:07.58steevthis is gonna be horrible
05:08.50steevuploading the logs of the fights now :/
05:09.19steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/xlyqp6pd7qv147ds/
05:10.04Megalonthat's a lot of tries
05:10.11steevi know right?
05:11.00Megalonalways happy to insult to injury!
05:11.10Megalon+add :7
05:11.15steev*shrug*
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05:11.26steevwe try, its about all one can ask
05:11.31steevi tried suggesting we add another healer or two
05:12.17steevwe don't has the dps for it
05:14.02pompyhm, didn't know facebook's source was on github, at least i think that's what im looking at, http://github.com/facebook
05:14.55WobWorksteev: is that 7.8k hps?
05:15.18steevyes
05:15.19Groktar50%
05:15.19Groktar><
05:15.23WobWorkholy crap =(
05:15.26steevallinone is a healing machine
05:15.35WobWorkI don't even want to think of the gear required to roll LB like that
05:16.03steevlb?
05:16.07steevoh
05:16.11steevlook it up
05:16.17Axodiouswoo lk 25 down
05:16.21steevhe doesn't have super spectacular gear
05:16.30Axodiouslike half the raid was dead when he hit 10%
05:16.32Megalonwell, on valithria
05:16.41Megalonyou don't need gear to roll lb on her :P
05:16.42Axodiousboth tanks
05:16.43Axodiousand enrage
05:16.44Axodious>_<
05:16.50Groktarwe just used our last attempt Axodious
05:16.52steevi was bandaging her
05:17.10Groktarfirst time we actually got valkyrs
05:17.15pompypro error message id say, http://i49.tinypic.com/6e3hh0.jpg
05:17.41steevyou've got a virus imo
05:17.42Axodioustip for your warlocks, if the valks are relatively close seed
05:17.46Axodiousthe hit box on them is HUGE
05:18.14WobWorksteev: of course, that level of gear isn't anything I'll ever get =(
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05:34.34steevWobWork: ahh
05:34.42steevWobWork: stop workin so much :P
05:34.53WobWorkI could never go in a hardcore raiding guild
05:41.16Arrowmaster?
05:42.14Bribrijust wondering if the internet is as small as it seems
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05:50.15Repo10stack-watch: 03raegx * r16 / (3 files in 1 directory): StackWatch:
05:50.16Repo-externals cleanup
05:51.21Repo10stack-watch: 03raegx 04b1.3 * r17 : Tagging b1.3 external cleanup
05:52.07sylvanaarraiding is like a part time job
05:52.23sylvanaar20+ hrs a week
06:01.59Repo10stack-watch: 03raegx * r18 core.lua: Removed AceConfig embed
06:03.04Repo10stack-watch: 03raegx 04v1.3 * r19 : Tagged v1.3 - further external cleanup
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08:04.59mitch0$
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08:09.45Megalonoh, he's starting a perl attack, RUN!!
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08:13.36Elkanomaybe he just wanted to enter a formular?
08:14.18Megalonhe got Repo once!
08:14.27Megalonand he will not stop there
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08:26.32Megalonthe golden statues in mid dalaran, where you can watch the lich king cinematic, those spawn after ic25 lich king server first?
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09:06.53Repo6be0f90: Single protection paladin puts sanctuary instead of kings on tanks.
09:06.54Repoe78122d: Added a README file.
09:06.55Repo890f9e8: Added the slash command "/raidycheck" to open the configuration GUI.
09:06.56Repo53e1d1c: Changed AddonLoader condition to load on entering instance.
09:08.22Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r349 Options (5 files in 2 directories): --Fix versioning for the basic defaults.
09:08.38Repo--Fixes bug where removing statuses would not save properly.
09:11.48Caleb|L~wowalert
09:11.49purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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09:37.53Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.5.1-10-g1901efe / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Decursive will not (or no longer) work for the specific player "Arados-Conseil des Ombres" (I don't want such [Insert appropriate word here] to benefit from my hard work.)
09:38.57Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r350 Options/GridDefaults.lua: -- Fix for ALL classes!
09:45.41TNSe|what?
09:45.56TNSe|You want to decrease performance for everyone else just to annoy 1 guy? :P
09:45.59TNSe|lol
09:48.36olafskilol
09:48.39olafskithat's hardcore :P
09:48.45olafskiwonder what he's done
09:49.05olafski@describe decursive
09:49.08Repoolafski: http://www.wowace.com/addons/decursive/. Decursive. Afflictions display and cleaning for solo, group and raids with advanced filtering and priority system.
09:49.29[1]Archarodimyeah, I really hate this guy :p
09:49.42evlWell he won atleast
09:50.01evlGold medal in trolling, since you let him get to you
09:50.27olafskiwhat did he do?
09:50.39olafskiand I assume it's a one-time check so I doubt it's much of a performance loss
09:50.56[1]ArcharodimI had the most horrible experience in a pickup-group because of him
09:51.22Megalonall hand made
09:51.26olafskithat's it? oO
09:51.50Megalonhe's just a troll/douche
09:51.52olafskidid he say he uses decursive btw? or was this just a precaution ;)
09:52.02[1]Archarodimhe pissed me off like no one did
09:52.05olafskianywho, bbl
09:52.11[1]Archarodimit's just a precaution
09:52.38[1]ArcharodimI may let the changelog line in the new release too:p
09:52.58evl[1]Archarodim: Ignore, leave group? :P
09:53.14[1]Archarodimthat's what I did but it's not enough
09:54.02Megaloncall the kindergarten cop
09:54.07Megalonwe have a serious issue here
09:54.23[1]Archarodimit's the kind of guy you would punch in real life
09:54.27evlCome with me, if you want to LIIVE
09:54.49Megalonthen get his adress
09:54.53[1]Archarodimexecpt in WoW you can't do anything against them, apart from ignoring them
09:54.54Megalonand punch him
09:54.56Megalondone
09:55.16[1]Archarodimso this is my little revenge
09:55.21evl[1]Archarodim: The world is full of assholes, but you if you don't ignore them they get to you and you're covered in their shit too :P
09:55.56[1]ArcharodimI know that, it's so true
09:57.09Repo10raidycheck: 03Adirelle 07master * 58067c9 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
09:57.11Repo58067c9: Added a readycheck button to the anchor.
09:57.12Repo3a52370: Minor README update.
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10:34.20RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/raidycheck/. RaidyCheck. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
10:35.45Fiskerno Torhal
10:35.48FiskerSC 2 BETA!
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10:38.29TorhalFisker: Your soul - it's been denied.
10:38.46asmodaiHe has one?
10:38.59Torhalasmodai: No, he applied for one.
10:39.02TorhalDenied.
10:39.13Fiskeri don't need a soul to play the beta
10:39.31Fiskeri will be playing so much sc2 beta in a few days
10:39.44asmodaiYou will be playing naught!
10:41.01Fiskeri will
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11:06.05TorhalFisker: You said that ove the summer.
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11:27.08evlanyone know a similar addon to ButtonFacade for aurasP
11:27.10evl?*
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12:13.06Repo10grid2: 03Sayclub * r351 / (3 files in 3 directories): koKR update
12:44.09Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r213 / (13 files in 2 directories): *3.02.34 (09-FEB-2010) BETA 23-37*
12:44.11Repo* fixed - openallbags (shift+b) should now work more like the blizzard version (it's not exactly the same but it is more logical)
12:44.12Repo* fixed - EraseSavedData( ) function was leaving some data intact, specifically guild bank gold
12:47.37Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7237 Plugins/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update
12:49.49Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.34 Beta 23-37 * r214 : *3.02.34 (09-FEB-2010) BETA 23-37*
12:49.51Repo* fixed - openallbags (shift+b) should now work more like the blizzard version (it's not exactly the same but it is more logical)
12:49.52Repo* fixed - EraseSavedData( ) function was leaving some data intact, specifically guild bank gold
12:49.53Repo* changed - consolidated the addon options table some more
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13:08.12Repo10youarentinapartyfix: 03Whitetooth * r8 YouArentInAPartyFix.lua:
13:08.14Repo- Fix: No longer blocks messages to guild while not in a party/raid
13:08.15Repo- Fix: No longer blocks messages to party/raid while not in a guild
13:08.17Repo- Fix: No longer allows messages to raid while only in a party
13:08.18Repo- New: Show which channel used in debug mode
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14:07.51XtekMornin'
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14:10.09Repo10raidycheck: 03Adirelle 07master * 18453b3 modules (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
14:10.11Repo18453b3: Have more events trigger status checking.
14:10.12Repo22ecc6a: Reworked blessing detection, again.
14:10.14Repob41ba0d: Dislay mana failure as the mana percentage in blue, instead of OoM.
14:11.27steevmorning sirs
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14:48.35steevhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert interesting
14:50.33quiescenswhat did you break this time
14:50.50quiescensmake it say moo instad
14:50.51pompy1testing
14:50.54quiescensinstead*
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14:58.51Brybryyeah steev, it's been like that for a while =x
14:59.49steevanyone here use windows 7 with multiple hard drives
15:01.44winkdefine USE
15:01.48winkI have windows 7
15:01.55winkand it has 3-4 disks atm
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15:21.22Repo10gladiminish: 03ananhaid * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): Gladiminish:
15:21.24Repo- zhCN add.
15:21.27yoshimois it possible to allow one tab/website  in firefox to play sound and prevent it on others instead of muting the firefox app?
15:22.27Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03s8095324 * r253 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-GearSet/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-GearSet.lua: Add Tier 9.10 Set
15:25.24asmodaiyoshimo: maybe https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1765 ?
15:28.02mitch0yoshimo: or upgrade to opera :P
15:29.17Gnarfozdon't install quicktime, works too
15:29.49mitch0I'm pretty sure browsers can play sound w/o quicktime
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15:32.10Gnarfozthat's why wikipedia has used java players forever for their audio snippets, then?
15:32.29winkthat is where flash shines
15:32.39winkembedded flash player - much better
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15:34.55steevwink: i'd like the computer to sleep, but i don't want it to power off 2 of the disks before the machine goes into sleep mode - and that doesn't seem to be the case - i can either have the hard drives sleep when they aren't in use, or always on, and thats it
15:35.37Repo10raidycheck: 03Adirelle 07master * 432d0c7 modules/ClassBuffs.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed Righteous Fury test.
15:37.37Wobinsteev, pft
15:37.42Wobinshutdown and startup is so fast
15:37.48Wobinwho needs to sleep? =P
15:38.53steevWobWork: welcome to 1990 - here in the 2010's, we use sleep as its even faster
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15:43.21Repo10mendeleev: 03s8095324 * r279 SetsGear.lua: Fix Paladin's Tier 9.10 Set name
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15:49.00AckisI hate sleep
15:49.03Ackissleep is teh devil
15:49.09Ackisbtw, what's the DLC for ME2 today?
15:49.11Ackiscerberus shit?
15:50.07Repo10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r95 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua:
15:50.09Repo- Paladin: Sacred Duty now provides 2 / 4% Stamina, down from 4 / 8% Stamina.
15:50.10Repo- Death Knight: Frost Presence now provides 8% Stamina, up from 6% Stamina.
15:50.12Repo- Death Knight: Icebound Fortitude now provides 30% base damage reduction, up from 20% damage reduction
15:50.14winksteev: no clue, sorry
15:50.55steevhooray!
15:51.57steevisn't the 8% stam, pre-frost presence nerf?
15:52.22steevalso, how does that change the frost presence sigil?
15:52.34steevglyph*
15:52.50olafski8% is the new amount
15:53.02olafskiwhat's the frost presence sigil? :$
15:53.07steevhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=43545
15:53.11steevi meant IBF glyph
15:53.14olafskiahh
15:53.18steevi fail on multiple accounts
15:53.30olafskiif that sigil doesn't change it's useless I guess
15:53.45steevit was useless before imo
15:55.19steevIn the Toravon encounter, the effect of the Whiteout debuff has been reduced. Additionally, the damage done by Frozen Orbs has been reduced.
15:55.22steevROFL
15:55.48steevthat fight was wtf easy before, did it really need to be nerfed?
15:56.21olafskinever tried it
15:56.28olafskithe glyph nor the encounter ;)
15:57.57yoshimothey also removed the limited attempts on normal mode i read somewhere...
15:58.31steevyep
15:58.54Gnarfoz@describe raidycheck
15:58.55RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/raidycheck/. RaidyCheck. Raid boss mod and buff checking.
15:59.28olafskithat's good imo.. limited attempts have no business in normal mode
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16:09.55Repo10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth 04r275 * r275 : - Update for 2010-02-05 Paladin and Death Knight changes
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16:36.55Fiskeri killed you dead nichdu
16:36.58Fiskernicoli_s *
16:38.32nicoli_snuhuh im back
16:38.34nicoli_snow wheres my sc2
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16:43.33Fiskervery soon nichdu
16:43.35Fiskernicoli_s
16:43.38Fiskernot even quarters away
16:43.51Fiskerseen teh news nicoli_s ?
16:47.25nicoli_snope
16:48.11XtekWhat news?
16:48.20Fiskershh
16:48.23Fiskeryou can't know
16:48.26Xtek:(
16:49.28Fisker:3
16:52.31Fiskeraww Xtek
16:52.41Xteknope
16:52.52Xtekdon't want to hear it
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16:54.00FiskerOMG SC2 BETA
16:54.57Fiskerit am not lies
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17:13.22ckknightnoes
17:13.28kadrahil:(
17:16.13Megalona hope you didn't use the same trout twice
17:16.44quiescenscompiz scale plugin needs to show at least an icon for minimized windows ):
17:17.19quiescenstoo easy to minimize something by accident and then you can't bring it back
17:17.21Fiskerstracarft tow bate ckknight
17:17.25Megalonthe trout is IRCs acetomorphine needle
17:17.34ckknightFisker: lol wut
17:17.39Megalonand you ain't in it Fisker
17:17.42Megalonwe already know that
17:17.45Megalonstop QQ
17:17.49Megalondon't worry
17:17.50Fiskeri will be when it starts in a few hours
17:17.51Megalonbe happy
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17:18.34Fiskerlets be lovers Megalon
17:18.54Megalonok, it's only gay if the balls touch
17:18.56Megalonyou know that
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17:21.05ckknightMegalon: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/NBCSports/Components/Slideshows-NBC_sports/_production/ss-100207-sb/ss-100207-sb-21.ss_full.jpg
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17:21.49Megalonthat's quite close
17:30.10Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r2549 AtlasLayout/instances.en.lua: Hopefully last AtlasLayout update for 1.16.0 :)
17:34.12Groktarthe new arthas bow is hawt
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17:36.19Groktarwarrior item imo
17:36.59nicoli_swarlock item
17:37.11Groktar^
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17:50.08StanzillaGroktar: you already killed him?
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17:54.02quiescensgroktar's killed him 3 times over!
17:54.22Groktar50% Stanzilla
17:54.53Groktarwe made huge progress our last few attempts
17:55.10Groktaron our last attempt we killed the first 2 waves of valkyrs
17:55.12Groktarthen let one get off
17:55.14Groktarthen 2
17:55.18Groktarthen it fell apart
17:55.40Groktarneed to get better at collapsing and spreading out
17:55.42Groktarkj style
17:55.57Groktarso we can keep the black shit out of the middle
17:56.31Groktarafter actually doing the fight i'm glad ensidia got their loot taken away
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17:56.43Groktarthat's the whole fucking fight they bypassed
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18:14.18Chosianyone know an addon that removes the damn sound that plays when an item is not ready yet?
18:14.21Chosi(to be used)
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18:17.24Groktari must have been so tired last night
18:17.55Groktar.icon_blizz vs class="icon-blizz"
18:18.16Groktarcould't figure it out ><
18:18.59AeyanChosi: I'm sure there is one out there, but I use /run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX","0") and /run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX","1") in a macro to kill it for me
18:21.13kagarowho is handling the store right now?
18:21.46Chosiah nice thanks Aeyan
18:21.53Chosiit's really annoying in my mutilate macro :/
18:22.11AeyanSure
18:22.13kagarock you there?
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19:02.07Groktaryay!
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19:24.42pompy1"We encountered some issues during the scheduled maintenance and are extending the maintenance on all realms until approximately 11:59am PST. We will provide further updates as needed at this time as well. Thank you for your patience."
19:26.08Caleb|~wowalert
19:26.09purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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19:52.45Repo- fixed some wrong skill levels (Tickets: 921,922)
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20:13.15steevmalganis is up
20:14.14steevi'm showing Alleria, Mal'Ganis, Kalecgos, Ursin, Madoran, Terokkar, and Trollbane as up
20:17.41asmodaihttp://www.google.com/buzz <-- why does this seem like Wave reinvented?
20:17.56nevcairieloh is that their new thing
20:18.12nevcairielits just wave for twitter users
20:18.38asmodaiYea
20:19.55sb|worklooks good :p
20:19.58sb|workbut doesnt work yet
20:20.36nevcairielwe don't need another microblogging or whatever shit
20:20.38nevcairielwe already have too many
20:20.58Megalonmicroblogging is like sleep
20:21.07Megalonyou can NEVER have too much
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20:33.07durcyni'd rather use buzz than lamebook, tbh
20:33.34Groktaruh oh
20:35.03Groktarheh, the armory locked me out
20:35.27Groktarmy script may have tried to load a players xml file one bajillion times over and over
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20:38.06yoshimoa bit too often ;)
20:38.13Groktaryeah
20:38.18Groktarok, about 5 minutes
20:38.20Groktarnot too bad
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20:38.38Groktari wonder what the limit is
20:39.21AbstractHHmmm.
20:39.33AbstractHI'm considiring making something for buffs.
20:40.34yoshimo@describe blessed
20:40.36Repoyoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Intelligent, slim paladin blessing management
20:40.59arkanes_blessed should be better
20:41.26AntiarcI need more time in my day :P
20:41.26arkanes_like zomgbuffs :P
20:41.38arkanes_except zomgs PP integration is funky
20:42.17arkanes_does blessed have comms and just doesn't support PP, or is it just no comms at all?
20:42.29yoshimono ppsupport as far as i know
20:42.39arkanes_I know it has no PP support
20:42.47arkanes_I'm wondering about non-PP comms, syncing with itself
20:42.51AntiarcNo comms yet
20:42.54AntiarcIt's planned
20:42.59AntiarcBut I have no free time :P
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20:43.07NivFreakzomg->PP breaks a lot it seems
20:43.16AntiarcPP's protocol is retarded
20:43.17NivFreakbut I still prefer zomg
20:43.17arkanes_NivFreak: yeah I get PP users complaining a lot
20:43.27arkanes_agreed, I just say screw them
20:43.38arkanes_I periodically look into fixing it, but then I decide that PP sucks
20:43.40NivFreakzomg has it's buggie periods, but PP is just terrible ;)
20:44.00NivFreakhonestly, I'm not sure why anyone gives a shit about PP comms
20:44.08NivFreaksomeone should just make a standard and get zomg to move to it
20:44.09arkanes_because everyone uses PP
20:44.12NivFreaknot really
20:44.16NivFreakI find more people use nothing
20:44.17arkanes_its a defacto standard
20:44.18arkanes_is on my server
20:44.26NivFreakit was once upon a time
20:44.36arkanes_many people use nothing, especially in 5 mans
20:44.40Antiarchttp://i.imgur.com/HrrnQ.jpg
20:44.40NivFreakI find that 50% of paladins use nothing
20:44.42NivFreakwhich is insane
20:44.46arkanes_but even in pug raids PP is by far the winner
20:44.47AntiarcExhibit A as to why PP sucks.
20:45.09nevcairielso get busy Antiarc :D
20:45.13AntiarcOur two paladins in the raid sent 1.16 and 1.6 MB of PP traffic over the course of one raid.
20:45.18NivFreakcrazy
20:45.26Antiarcnevcairiel: I am busy, that's the problem :P
20:45.28arkanes_it should be possible to use a lower bandwidth comms protocol
20:45.30AntiarcI have no time for modding at the moment
20:45.38arkanes_and then, if you see PP traffic from someone else, start also sending PP messaegs
20:45.42arkanes_maybe instead?
20:45.46NivFreakmumble eating your time?
20:45.59AntiarcPaying work eating my time :P
20:46.03arkanes_Antiarc: you know if PPs protocol is actually documented anywhere?
20:46.09Antiarcarkanes_: Not AFAIK.
20:46.15NivFreakhey, your mumble site might be paying, I don't know :)
20:46.24TorhalAntiarc: You're still using AddonSpamFu?
20:46.38NivFreakis there something better?
20:46.42AntiarcTorhal: Yeah. Is there a better alternative?
20:46.45Torhal@describe spamalyzer
20:46.46RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/spamalyzer/. Spamalyzer. Tracks SendAddonMessage Spam
20:46.49AntiarcNivFreak: I'm almost breaking even with mmo-mumble
20:46.58AntiarcStill a little in the hole, but only like $3/month
20:47.00arkanes_also when is that loot message going to get taken out of aceevent
20:47.06NivFreakI'll try it out
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20:47.14NivFreakAntiarc: not bad
20:47.16arkanes_silly snooping thing
20:47.18yoshimozomgbuffs needs some love really ;)
20:47.22AntiarcNope, not too bad at all
20:47.29NivFreakAntiarc: a better/easier to use client will help mumble biz
20:47.36AntiarcNivFreak: 1.2.2 is pretty nice
20:47.43NivFreakwe were trying it
20:47.55AntiarcLet me help you configure it. You've gotta be doing something massively wrong :P
20:48.03NivFreakit needs to be as easy, or ideally easier to use than vent, with superior quality results
20:48.07NivFreakif you want to get momentum
20:48.08AntiarcIt's not really that hard at all. I have over 100 people in my guild alliance using it without issues.
20:48.12arkanes_vent is terrible and I hate it
20:48.15AntiarcLatency and quality are both massively better
20:48.22arkanes_but it's barely better than nothing
20:48.29Antiarcarkanes_: Use Mumble!
20:48.35durcyncurrent mumble is insanely great
20:48.39arkanes_I might try to get my guild to switch
20:48.41NivFreakalso, it hates mousebinds for PTT ;)
20:48.46NivFreakwe had to do funky things to get them working
20:48.49Antiarcarkanes_: I'll spawn a demo server for you if you want :)
20:48.55durcynworks for me with DirectInput games, NivFreak
20:48.55arkanes_do you have cross platform clients?
20:48.56AntiarcNivFreak: Odd, mine works just fine out of the box.
20:48.58durcynand the overlay is amazing
20:49.04AntiarcYeah, it runs on Linux, Mac, and Windows
20:49.08arkanes_Antiarc: when I get home from work I'll take you up on it
20:49.28NivFreakAntiarc: but here lies the problem, 15-20 of us had no major issues, the rest had all sorts of crazy issues (half of which, is them likely failing to read)
20:49.38NivFreakand then w/ random quality issues that are one direction
20:49.46arkanes_Antiarc: you a mumble dev or just a consumer?
20:49.47NivFreakit just becomes a hassel :)
20:50.00Antiarcarkanes_: Consumer, though I'm dangerously close to contributing to the project :P
20:50.10AntiarcI've also written a bunch of support code, like interface libraries for Ruby
20:50.22arkanes_I do network programming for my job and gui programming for my hobbies so I have some interest in chat clients
20:50.22NivFreakI'd hear from 15 people that I sounded super clear, and 2 would say I sounded like I was in a tunnel
20:50.55AntiarcNivFreak: Likely their output settings, or perhaps server bandwidth tuned too high for their connection.
20:51.13NivFreakI suspect it's something like that
20:51.17arkanes_Antiarc: on feature in TS3 I really lke and wish vent had was talkover protection, where a channel owner can talk over someone else and they'll be muted
20:51.21arkanes_Antiarc: does mumble have that?
20:51.30AntiarcHrm. Not sure.
20:51.41NivFreakvent is supposed to have that, I've never gotten it working
20:51.42AntiarcI know you could probably set it up with ACLs and a bind pretty easily.
20:51.48AntiarcBut it'd be somewhat arcane
20:51.56arkanes_I've never even seen an option for it in vent
20:52.03arkanes_I could mute people manually but thats not what I want
20:52.16NivFreakwhat I always hate about vent
20:52.23NivFreakis that when I talk in our ochat bind
20:52.30NivFreakwe all hear the raid channel
20:52.40NivFreakI can set it up so that my own talk mutes everyone else
20:52.46NivFreakbut others don't hear the same thing
20:52.49arkanes_I wish my ears had proper multiplexing
20:54.09arkanes_NivFreak: from my brief reading of the mumble wiki that might be caused by some cllients falling back to speex
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20:54.34AntiarcYeah, if you have clients setting really low outbound bandwidth settings, they'll be falling back to speex
20:54.39AntiarcThat happens under 33kbps, I think?
20:54.43yoshimoantiarc, i hope you have more time soon, pp is one of the last addons that needs a replacement here ;)
20:55.36AntiarcMumble's overlay and sound attenuation are absolutely killer, though
20:55.47AntiarcLosing those makes me hate pretty much every other voice product
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20:56.09arkanes_Antiarc: you might consider a 30 or 35 slot package
20:56.20Antiarcarkanes_: You can buy by-the-slot
20:56.22arkanes_Antiarc: I know lots of guilds want "25 man raid plus a couple extra people"
20:56.25AntiarcClick that "roll your own" link
20:56.28arkanes_ah hah
20:56.30NivFreakin my brief use of it (we will be trying it again) I would say that some people sounded better than vent/speex, and some were far worse
20:56.34NivFreakand I'm sure it's a matter of settings
20:56.48AntiarcYeah, that's all config.
20:56.55AntiarcIf you can get those outliers shaped up, it's A+
20:56.57arkanes_wow, who still uses sourceforge?
20:57.01AntiarcLots of people.
20:57.02arkanes_and since when do they have git?
20:57.05AntiarcA while now.
20:57.19arkanes_and why am I not surprised that their gitweb is terribly slow :P
20:57.33AntiarcIt's pretty fast for me.
20:57.39Antiarchttp://mumble.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=mumble/mumble;a=tree
20:58.06arkanes_its just hanging here
20:58.15AntiarcComes up as soon as I click, here
20:58.35arkanes_I'll try it at home then
21:00.38arkanes_Antiarc: you need to fix your rounding, a 25 slot roll your own is 1c cheaper than the 25 slot package :P
21:00.57AntiarcBah. Probably a discrepancy between how JS and Ruby round.
21:01.02AntiarcI'll see about fixing that up.
21:01.20Antiarc(You'd get the Ruby rate anyhow, the client doesn't dictate the price :P)
21:01.32arkanes_all the ends-with-5s have the same issue
21:01.45AntiarcLovely. I'll see about getting that fixed up.
21:02.42arkanes_ooh certificate based auth
21:02.45AntiarcYup.
21:03.04AntiarcBoth servers and clients use certs
21:03.10AntiarcIt's quite slick.
21:03.16arkanes_easy to set up in the client?
21:03.20NivFreakyea
21:03.24AntiarcVery.
21:03.25arkanes_sweet
21:03.39Antiarchttp://dev.mmo-mumble.com/help/GetMumble - that has screens of the set up process.
21:03.41Antiarcerr
21:03.45Antiarchttp://mmo-mumble.com/help/GetMumble - that has screens of the set up process.
21:03.46Antiarc>_>
21:03.52AntiarcIGNORE THE SITE BEHIND THE CURTAIN
21:04.37NivFreakinteresting, the curse client I have on my windows box returns no results searching for 'spam'
21:05.53AntiarcOho. The rounding issue is because of sprintf
21:05.56AntiarcWhich JS doesn't offer.
21:05.57AntiarcBlahhhh.
21:06.10FiskerHEY Antiarc
21:06.11FiskerHEY
21:06.19Antiarchey fisker
21:07.04Fiskeri'm just hey'ing here
21:07.37Fiskermaybe i'm being passive aggressive, maybe i'm not
21:07.42Fiskermaybe you'll get me in the sc2 beta
21:08.23Repo10grid2: 03Gaff3 06options * r328 / (9 files in 5 directories): Merged r351
21:08.31Antiarcwhat
21:08.35Antiarcsince when do I have magical beta powers
21:10.55TorhalAntiarc: ?
21:11.04Antiarc?
21:11.07Fiskeryou do now
21:12.54arkanes_huh, how is positional audio with WoW supposed to work?
21:13.02arkanes_because that would be incrediawesome
21:13.03Fiskerhax
21:13.08AntiarcIt does Bad Things (TM)
21:13.12Fisker^^
21:13.12AntiarcI recommend not using it
21:13.16nevcairieldo they really do those bad thigns?
21:13.19Fiskeri reported it to blizzard :(
21:13.20AntiarcIt directly reads your position out of WoW's memory space
21:13.24AntiarcWhich is a ToS no-no
21:13.28AntiarcEven though the reason is benign
21:13.31arkanes_that was what I was about to ask
21:13.39AntiarcThe source is in the repo; it's pretty simple
21:13.48arkanes_yeah, thats a Bad Thing, having that in there as a default is probably irresponsible of them
21:14.10AntiarcI've mentioned it, but I don't think the core team are WoW players.
21:14.25AntiarcThat's a community-contributed plugin, and the guy that maintains it has apparently been using it forever without problems
21:14.25olafskiantiarc: what is "sound attenuation"?
21:14.30AntiarcBut, caveat emptor
21:14.41Antiarcolafski: It'll lower your other system sounds when people talk
21:14.46olafskioh that's awesome
21:14.57olafskiwell sounds awesome :)
21:15.00AntiarcSo you can be listening to music full-blast, and when someone says something it'll drop your music player's volume, then bring it back up when they're done talking
21:15.03AntiarcIt's amazing. I love it.
21:15.09Fiskermicrosoft did it
21:15.15olafskidoesn't that sound awkward if the music goes soft suddenly?
21:15.16AntiarcI listen to music fairly loudly when I raid, and never have issues.
21:15.24AntiarcIt's awkward for about 10 minutes
21:15.27olafskihmkay
21:15.28Fiskerneither do i
21:15.29AntiarcThen you get used to it really fast and love it.
21:15.39Fiskeri do tend to get removed after an hour of raiding or so because i can't hear them
21:15.40olafskiI'm not in a raiding guild.. would be nice to have that if I were though
21:15.44olafskibut I guess most guilds still use ventrilo
21:15.50MegalonI listen to the sound of awesomeness I emit while raiding
21:15.59AntiarcBlood Legion got their world first LK kill on one of my Mumble servers :D
21:16.13arkanes_hah cool
21:16.14olafskiwon't you get banned for reading wow's memory btw?
21:16.20AntiarcPotentially, yes
21:16.20arkanes_olafski: you could be
21:16.28AntiarcThe plugin is not wise to use, IMO.
21:16.34olafskiI guess you don't "have" to use th.. ah it's a plugin :P
21:16.37arkanes_thats exactly the sort of thing that the Warden is intended to catch and report you for
21:16.46AntiarcYeah. You can turn plugins on/off as desired.
21:16.48olafskimaybe blizzard can make an exception.. but I doubt they'll do it
21:17.13olafskilowering other volumes sounds like an awesome reason to use it though
21:17.33AntiarcBlizzard won't allow it, because that opens up all kinds of holes.
21:17.35olafskioverlay too, but ventrilo can do that too
21:17.41arkanes_if I can find a way to make the talkover stuff work I will make my guild switch this week
21:17.44AntiarcMumble's overlay spanks Vent's overlay so damn hard
21:17.47AntiarcVent's overlay is horrible.
21:17.51AntiarcHorrible horrible horrible.
21:17.53Fiskerthey both suck
21:17.58AntiarcMumble's is elegant and useful.
21:18.02olafskihm didn't bother me much :<
21:18.04arkanes_vents overlay is DX hax thing and doesn't work on OS X, does mumbles?
21:18.04yoshimooverlay wasnt banned so why should the position reading plugin for mumble be banned?
21:18.06nevcairieloverlays are overrated, the display on my G15 was perfect for that :P
21:18.11olafskihm or was that teamspeak..
21:18.15AntiarcYes, Mumble's overlay works on Mac and Linux both
21:18.20arkanes_sweet
21:18.21Fiskerbecause overlays are done through directx yoshimo
21:18.23arkanes_heading home to check it out
21:18.24AntiarcAnd Mumble has a G15 plugin too >_>
21:18.26olafskiyoshimo: does the overlay do something with wow memory? ;)
21:18.30Fiskerthey don't interfere with WoW at all
21:18.37olafskinevcairiel: why would you want to look at your keyboard while playing :<
21:18.49olafskithen again I guess you don't need to know who's talking _that_ often
21:18.58Megalonwhy would you look at the overlay while playing
21:19.00olafskiit's nice if you're new in a guild to get used to all the voices I guess
21:19.00nevcairieli only did when i didnt recognize some voice
21:19.08nevcairielbut i usually only used voice with my guild
21:19.10Megalonit's just to get those fucktards
21:19.11nevcairieland i knew everyone
21:19.13nevcairielso yeah
21:19.15Megalonwho breath through their mics
21:19.21pompy1or when someones holding down their ptt button and annoying ppl
21:19.22nevcairielwas useful when someone fel asleep on the PTT button again
21:19.28pompy1:P
21:19.34olafskiI like to know when it's the raid leader calling "wipe it" and when it's some idiot trying to be funny
21:19.49olafskimouthbreathers are annoying though
21:20.01nevcairielI can pickup voices pretty fast, even in a random group
21:20.09nevcairielso i can hear who is the raid leader :P
21:20.33yoshimoolafski, there are people that are muted as soon as they join ;) better for my heart
21:20.48pompy1ppl who actually dont use a mic when they are talking are very annoying
21:20.48olafski;)
21:20.52Fiskerso did they ever make that icecrown citadel buff they were talking about?
21:21.06olafskipompy1: what else would they be using?
21:21.14pompy1olafski: built in
21:21.17olafskifisker: I guess that will kick in "soon"
21:21.21olafskipompy1: ew.. like in a laptop or webcam?
21:21.26pompy1so when someone else qqueues the mic u hear it thru the other persons
21:21.28pompy1yeah
21:21.31Megalonbrain line-in interface, what else pompy1
21:21.31Pneumatusonce LK heroic is down, id guess
21:21.35pompy1makes the ears bleed
21:21.45olafskiand I thought people using speakers instead of a headset were annoying :P
21:22.24AntiarcMumble has echo cancellation and noise filtering, both of which are great
21:22.37AntiarcThe echo cancellation isn't perfect, but it helps with those people that set their mic right next to their speakers
21:22.42nevcairielnoise cancellation with only one mic usually makes you sound like in a can
21:22.47AntiarcThe noise cancelling and automatic normalization are really nice, though
21:22.55AntiarcIf you have a lot of background noise, it can, yeah
21:22.59Megalondoes it also have auto-tune?
21:23.03AntiarcAfraid not!
21:23.04nevcairielmy phone has two mics, one on the other side
21:23.04Megalonfor those special moments
21:23.11nevcairielits great for noise cancelation
21:23.28Antiarchttp://i.imgur.com/BzZUA.jpg - that's the overlay, ignore the froofy font, I was just showing off "hey look, I can use any font"
21:23.30kagarowish my iphone had better echo cancellation
21:23.31nevcairielsadly PCs cant do that yet
21:23.43AntiarcAlso it's showing everyone in the channel; I usually have it set up to only show people who are talking
21:24.02nevcairielit even shows their char info?
21:24.15AntiarcNo, those are custom avatars.
21:24.18nevcairielah
21:24.21AntiarcYou can set an avatar to show up rather than just text
21:24.23NivFreakwhich sounds more useful than it is
21:24.27NivFreakbtw ;)
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21:24.34AntiarcIt's fun, if not amazingly useful :P
21:24.52nevcairielthose get synced across the server?
21:24.58Antiarcyeah.
21:24.58NivFreakyes
21:25.00sztanpetheard about imvox?
21:25.08AntiarcYeah, I know about imbox.
21:25.09sztanpetthey provide servers for free
21:25.10nevcairielwell at least that
21:25.11Antiarcimvox, even.
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21:25.19AntiarcThey also lock you into their infrastructure :V
21:25.19sztanpetthe client sux ass tho
21:25.26NivFreakI believe the EJ feedback was, horrible?
21:25.28sztanpetyea
21:25.30NivFreakfor imbox
21:25.33NivFreakimvox*
21:25.41nevcairielits a common typo =P
21:25.42AntiarcYeah. EJ wasn't too impressed with it.
21:25.56sztanpetit was on hackernews too
21:26.08sztanpetbut people only gave advice about their webpage
21:26.49sztanpetthey finally added volume controls to their client, but its a global volume control, so if i mute that, the whole computer is muted
21:27.02sztanpetthat requires some hard engineering methings
21:27.04nevcairielhaha
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21:31.28ShadowedThey were the ones who wanted to modulate time to get data in-game
21:31.45Fisker@project blessed
21:31.46RepoFisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 35 days ago
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21:38.00yoshimofisker, we should get used to the fact that antiarc has no time to work on it currently ;)
21:38.31AntiarcI accept patches!
21:39.00Pneumatusmy pally is 73 now and i keep putting off having to use pp :<
21:39.14Pneumatusi just let peoples blessings fall off :>
21:40.10olafskiI don't mind pp :P
21:40.11Torhalyoshimo: Fisker is still having seizures over SC2
21:41.47Groktarer, eliseif
21:41.51Groktarelseif
21:41.55Groktar~lart Groktar
21:45.01Fiskerhey Groktar
21:45.16Groktar~kill Fisker
21:45.17purlACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-tachyon gun at Fisker
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21:46.18Pneumatusi read that as magento-ionized :<
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22:25.08arkanesAntiarc: do you still suggest Mumble 1.2.1 on OS X? Theres a 1.2.2 on the SF site
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22:25.36Antiarcarkanes: I'd use 1.2.2
22:25.50arkanesoh it was just released today
22:26.10NivFreak1.2.1 on mac had some issues
22:26.16NivFreakwe were using the dev builds of 1.2.2 over it
22:26.27AntiarcYeah, 1.2.1 had a lead on Win7 , too
22:26.49arkanesoh huh it uses Ice
22:26.57arkaneswe use that at work a lot
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22:36.02steevi'd be willing to give mumble a shot, sadly, getting an entire guild to switch... not so easy
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22:37.50Antiarcsteev: It has massively less latency than vent
22:37.53AntiarcThat's a sller by itself usually
22:39.29AntiarcVent has 500ms encode latency + network latency
22:39.41AntiarcMumble has 10ms encode latency + network latency
22:42.12Arrowmasteryeah i always found it weird how much lag vent had when you would end up hearing yourself echoing from somebody elses client
22:43.00NeoTronAntiarc: I'd rather have vent latency and good quality than the fuckup quality mumble has
22:43.13AntiarcIf Mumble has bad quality you're doing it wrong
22:43.22NeoTrondistortions galore, confusing UI, and well general suckage makes me prefer teamspeak over mumble
22:43.25NeoTronteamspeak 2
22:43.27AntiarcWhen did you try it last?
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22:43.36NeoTronwe tried a few weeks past
22:43.38AntiarcThe 1.2 series was a huge leap forward
22:43.40NeoTroneveryone sounded like shit
22:43.42Gnarfozif you expect everyone to have the bandwidth necessary to sound well with Mumble, you're sorely mistaken
22:43.45AntiarcYou had it configured wrong :P
22:43.56AntiarcMumble sounds awesome when it's configured correctly.
22:43.58NeoTronAntiarc: if it's more than "run and go" pretty much it fails
22:44.00Gnarfozand the "huge leap forward" meaning the switch to CELT, which uses *even more* bandwidth...
22:44.08AntiarcCELT with a fallback to Speex.
22:44.14Gnarfozhow's that helping anyone?
22:44.41Gnarfozspeex @ ultra-wideband has awful robot distortions ;\
22:44.51NeoTron^--- that
22:44.52GnarfozI wonder why wideband is better
22:44.54NeoTronrobot
22:45.05NeoTronit sounds like one of those voice changing apps
22:45.20AntiarcThat was the case with the early 1.2 alphas; I haven't seen that since.
22:45.21NeoTronalso I ddi the "setup wizard"
22:45.28Gnarfozwell, afaik that's how the codec compensates for missing data, but I wonder why any would be missing
22:45.40AntiarcYou should jump on one of my demo servers, I'll test it with you :P
22:45.42NeoTronand I got roundtrip distortions (i.e mic picking up sound from the speakers)... with a headset
22:45.47GnarfozAntiarc: I wasn't even talking about Mumble in this case, we're using TS3 - but they use the same codec anyway
22:46.07Arrowmasterwish i had a mic again
22:46.14NeoTronthat's so efficient at limiting noise that I can't hear someone standing behind me talking so there's no way that the mic actually picked up sound from the headphones
22:46.26Gnarfoz(when they use speex. TS3 also has CELT, but it doesn't switch by itself, channels use the codecs they're configure to use, as in ts2)
22:46.52NeoTrondamn nearly blew my ears out (and I wasn't the only one that had that issue)
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22:47.20NeoTronit's like mumble itself caused the feedback loop somehow.
22:47.21Arrowmastermy headset broke 2 years ago so i was using my xbox 360 wireless mic with the pc receiver as a pc mic for vent, cant really use that with linux now
22:47.52steevwhy not?
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22:52.01NeoTronforgot again.. but I fished up a turtle last night so it's ok. right?
22:53.56GagorianHaha, no worries :D
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22:55.21GagorianThat's like dividing by zero
22:57.56GagorianNeoTron: There's no hurry to test it, so as long as you'll get to it eventually I don't have to hunt for anyone else with 4p T9
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22:58.00PneumatusFisker is a product of dividing by zero
22:59.40arkaneshmm overlay does not seem to work
22:59.51GagorianFisker is a product of parthenogenesis
23:00.21GagorianWhich in humans I guess, is like dividing by zero
23:00.23Fiskeryou wouldn't
23:00.45durcynarkanes: you have to exit directx apps and restart them before the overlay hooking will work
23:00.57GnarfozGagorian: you mean because his mom is so ugly, nobody would ever hit that?
23:01.10Gnarfoz(in before someone saying "but I did!" :P)
23:01.14MegalonFisker is just one of those horrible gone wrong jokes
23:01.16Megalonnature does from time to time
23:01.17durcynnot true.  i fertilized fisker's mom several times last ni-- dammit, gnarfoz
23:01.24arkanesdurcyn: on OS X
23:01.31Gnarfozdurcyn: one step ahead
23:01.32GagorianGnarfoz: Yeah, it was a more clever version of "your mom is so.." joke
23:01.38durcynarkanes: oh, haven't tried osx lately
23:01.48Fiskeri'll report you all for being mean to me Megalon
23:02.47GnarfozMegalon is "you all" now? :O
23:02.52Gnarfozquite a step up on the ladder
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23:03.33Megalonyou should stop when you are on top!
23:03.40*** join/#wowace Stew-a (~Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753)
23:03.58durcyni didn't stop when i was on top of fisker's mom
23:04.09GagorianGnarfoz: I was about to comment on that but I think Fisker's mental state is fragile enough
23:04.22GagorianNo need to confront him on his psychotic delusions
23:04.37durcyn's more fun this way.
23:06.10Fiskeryeah she rode you good durcyn
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23:06.28arkanesah, there are hoops you have to jump through to get the overlay working
23:08.11Gnarfoz!8ball
23:08.16Gnarfoz~8ball
23:08.17purlACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Outlook not so good
23:08.26Gnarfozfuck
23:08.49Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7238 Citadel (7 files in 2 directories):
23:08.53Gnarfozthat was for "will I survive at the Lovely Charm farming spot beneath Dalaran"
23:09.02RepoCitadel/Valithria: Partially decrypt the blazing skeleton respawn timers /headache. WTB cookie.
23:09.19Gnarfozthey're on a timer? ;o
23:09.24Gnarfoz~cookie Funkeh`
23:09.31*** join/#wowace Higdur (~nike@fttp1-stoc.85.cust.blixtvik.net)
23:09.32Gnarfozwhat?
23:09.41Gnarfozpurl, forget cookie
23:09.46Funkeh`who raped ~cookie
23:09.56Gnarfozcan't unset, "too old"
23:11.34GagorianFisker stole the cookie from the cookie jar!
23:11.59Primerwho, me?
23:12.07GagorianNo, Fisker
23:12.13PrimerCouldn't be
23:12.18GagorianWho then?
23:12.32PrimerGagorian stole the cookie from the cookie jar
23:13.02GagorianWho me?
23:13.06Primeryes you
23:13.23GagorianCouldn't be!
23:13.28PrimerThen who?
23:13.44GagorianGnarfoz stole the cookie from the cookie jar
23:13.52GnarfozWho me? O_O
23:13.58GagorianYes you
23:14.01PrimerYes you
23:14.05GnarfozFuck you I didn't steal the fucking cookie from the cookie jar!
23:14.10Gnarfoz(fuck, where's that from)
23:14.22Gnarfoz(and it's not right, either)
23:14.23PrimerIt's something I remember from second grade
23:14.29Gnarfoz:P
23:14.33Gnarfoznot that
23:14.50Gnarfozah, it's a top100 bash quote
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23:15.00Gnarfozhttp://www.bash.org/?8102
23:15.02GagorianGnarfoz: http://www.bash.org/?8102
23:15.04Primerno
23:15.04Gagorianyeah too slow
23:15.05Gagorian:D
23:15.05Gnarfozhehe
23:15.10Primerit's from the 70's
23:15.17Primer(when I was in second grade)
23:15.17GagorianNo he mean the fuck you part of it
23:15.21Primeroh
23:15.21GnarfozPrimer: you are, too, apparently! :P
23:15.24Gagorians/mean/meant/
23:15.25Gnarfozheh
23:15.29PrimerGnarfoz: 60's
23:15.32Gnarfoz:O
23:15.38GagorianI remember it from some children's summer camp
23:15.39Primer1968, to be precise
23:15.53Gnarfozhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNzrwh2Z2hQ < ;O
23:16.03Gagorianin 1994 or so!
23:16.07PrimerI remember it from a file in second grade, where there were all these black kids (we called them black back then) singing it
23:16.14Primers/file/film/
23:16.27Primerback then there was no "video"
23:25.29XtekI just got asked if I want a SC2 beta key.
23:26.40WobWorkwell.. do you?
23:27.19GagorianXtek: Don't tell Fisker
23:27.35GagorianOr he'll gnaw his way into your house to steal it
23:28.18Xtekckknight got asked too.
23:28.30Xtekand nicoli_s
23:28.37ckknightpump it to my veins!
23:29.05Gnarfozahmagad
23:29.08Gnarfozneed sc2 beta
23:29.19Gnarfozonly thing trumping that would be d3 beta ;p
23:29.25steevtruth
23:29.39Gnarfoz(not sure where to sort in cataclysm there, but I think it's below sc2 :P)
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23:30.01GagorianI would be happy if Cataclysm never came out so I don't have to redo DrDamage
23:30.13GnarfozxD
23:30.51Fiskeryou're dead Gnarfoz
23:31.04Gnarfozbut I got to play sc2 for a little while, I'm good
23:31.13XtekAs did I.
23:31.15XtekIt was fun.
23:32.32ckknightyes
23:32.33ckknightI need more!
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23:33.55Fiskerdid you play SC2 Gnarfoz?
23:34.15steevstupid character list
23:34.17GnarfozFisker: at least that's what you'll believe!
23:34.28steevretrieve already
23:34.32Fiskeranswer should've been: "For a little while"
23:34.49steevdid i fall asleep?
23:35.25Fiskerno
23:36.02ckknightSC2 > Crack
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23:36.18Gnarfozso ckk
23:36.26Gnarfozwhere are those invites >:F
23:38.36nicoli_si had to bogart them
23:38.49nicoli_si needs them for toolz makin
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23:40.30XtekOur office ONRY
23:40.37nicoli_shey youll thank me once you have a nice sc2 model viewer
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23:42.02Grumis there any decent way to find out if MoveViewInStart() and its friends should work without userinteraction?
23:43.57ulicFree tacos from wowhead.com, just load any wowhead page and view the source, :P
23:44.59Fiskernicoli_s map editor?
23:45.03Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7240 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update
23:48.25Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7241 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update
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23:53.20steevwoot
23:53.30steevsarth is our server's weekly raid
23:54.03ulicwe had sarth the last 2 weeks.
23:55.14Gnarfozwe had anub'rekhan the last 2 :(
23:59.23Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r238 modules (3 files in 1 directory): More procs added.
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