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00:27.30Repo10bigbrother_ready: 03profalbert 07master * v0.9-13-gd78df91 Core.lua: [+1 commit] make sync a little less spamming
00:27.37Repo10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r74 DungeonMate.lua: Final prep for 1.0
00:28.18Repo10simpletankframes: 03Rabbit * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory):
00:28.20RepoOnly update the target highlight onupdate if the player is one of the tanks, use UNIT_TARGET when the player is not a tank.
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00:31.05Repo10dungeonmate: 03eblume 041.0-rc1 * r75 : Tagging as 1.0-rc1
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00:43.36Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r321 / (6 files in 2 directories):
00:43.38RepoRequest a list update when we join a group, and experiment with not showing green backgrounds any more for people who are ready; just use red for not ready.
00:57.24Repo10bigbrother_ready: 03profalbert 07master * v0.9-14-g6460daf Core.lua: [+1 commit] fix sync to work after fresh login
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01:46.53Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1325 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Fixed two nil GetSpellInfo calls on PTR
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01:47.12Repo- Tidal Waves does not apply to LHW totem
01:47.13Repo- Slightly adjusted Earth Shield coefficient
01:47.14Repo- Added remaining downranking coefficient to shaman class module (spells between 70-80)
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01:51.44Repo10simpletankframes: 03Rabbit * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add some config stuff.
01:52.08hastedid you solve your updating issue?
01:53.18vhaarrI didn't
01:53.45vhaarrthe issue is only visible until the hitpoints of the tank who relogged update somewhow
01:53.54vhaarrsomehow*
01:55.12vhaarrwhich happens frequently for the tanks I care about, so I won't bother fixing it
01:56.54haste:p
01:57.38vhaarrhaste: I think oUF "fixes" it by using the onUpdate health for this kind of units?
01:58.10vhaarror I dunno, your code is freaky
01:58.37vhaarrlike at first, I thought maybe it was related to this stuff around line 300 in ouf.lua; Enable = RegisterUnitWatch, etc
01:58.48vhaarrbut that is never triggered for any units that I show using oUF
01:58.55vhaarrwhich include all the normal units, raid, boss and tank frames
02:00.38hastevhaarr: frequentUpdates is only used when specified
02:01.28vhaarrand you do things like |self.id = value:match"^.-(%d+)"|, which I don't see used anywhere, which I also figured could be related
02:03.41vhaarrhaste: yeah but the addon I was checking out that provided the main tank display, WTFrames, did specify frequentUpdates
02:04.04vhaarrI didn't try to remove it, though, maybe your tank frames would behave just like mine if I had
02:05.29hastepossibly, I haven't gotten any reports on it tho'
02:05.45vhaarrI can't imagine there are that many oUF-based oRA3 tank displays
02:05.54vhaarrin fact, I think WTFrames was the only one until I wrote this
02:06.01hasteI'm thinking close to zero
02:06.02vhaarrerr
02:06.09vhaarrexcept mine isn't oUF-based as such
02:06.13vhaarrjust inspired :P
02:06.59vhaarrhence the amount of reports you might've gotten can't hold much towards it working properly or not without frequentUpdates
02:07.40hasteyour using the raid headers tho', which pretty much just uses the nameList as a filter
02:08.10vhaarrshould I be doing something else?
02:08.36hasteno, I'm just argumenting that the raid frames generally use the same update path as the one you are using now
02:08.44vhaarrah that explains the yells I got when people joined the raid today
02:08.51vhaarr"omg the whole raid is in the tank frames"
02:08.52vhaarretc
02:08.57vhaarr:P
02:09.45vhaarrwell I can't speak for WTFrames or what it does
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02:23.29pompyhmm, jus got done doing toc25 .. however wen we got to anub'arak...he wasn't there.
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02:31.14Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1326 Data/Shaman.lua: - T9 enhancement bonus is additive, not multiplicative
02:31.16Repo- Call of Flame and Booming Echoes are additive
02:31.51Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r322 oRA3.lua: Fix selectedTab.
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02:35.35Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1327 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Updated manual changelog
02:37.37Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Kemayo * r268 dataminer.lua:
02:37.39RepoFix dataminer so zone-locale stuff works again, and it can be run to fill empty instanceloot sets.
02:38.33Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Kemayo * r269 / (4 files in 4 directories):
02:38.34RepoAdd instanceloot entries for Icecrown Citadel, the whole Frozen Halls hub, and Trial of the Champion. Also, Light Parchment is a vendor-good.
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02:47.49arkanesany idea why RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE might be getting spammed?
03:17.29WobWorkarkanes: weird addon?
03:17.39WobWorkarkanes: get one of those addon message tracker addons
03:17.47WobWorkand see what's talking
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03:22.23Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r323 oRA3.lua: More small cleanups.
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03:56.58Sage__Quick question to those here, does anyone know of the status of Omen's development, I read on MMO-Minion's site that Omen's not being developed anymore, just wondering if someone knows one way or another.
03:59.17Sage__GET YOUR OWN SIR
03:59.28Sage__I'm guessing no one knows?
04:00.26Groktarhrm
04:00.29Groktarmy skinner is broken
04:00.34Sage__Skinner?
04:00.57Sage__Oh, that thing?
04:01.04Sage__Man, haven't used that since BC>
04:06.54Groktarthink i fixed it
04:07.14Groktarthrowing a tantrum because something was off in the enus locale
04:08.26Groktarthere we go
04:08.27Groktarall fixt
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04:17.01Ingela^lol Groktar stop playing lolduar bosses
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04:34.56Groktari can't believe how hard it is to recruit a decent rogue
04:35.04Groktarwe've been trying for a month now
04:35.05Groktar:(
04:38.03ckknighthttp://www.latinoreview.com/news/taylor-lautner-fan-letter-to-universa%20%20l-your-wolfman-ripped-off-twilight-9247
04:38.23ckknightGroktar: that's because rogues, by their very nature, suck hardcore.
04:40.33Bribriis there a way to permanently pvp flag oneself anymore? /pvp and portrait option just don't seem to do it for me anymore =(
04:42.22Arkaenckknight, you found gold
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04:42.51ckknightBribri: does it for me
04:43.05ckknightArkaen: Nosferatu also totally ripped off Twilight.
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04:43.19Arkaenand Dracula, don't forget Dracula
04:44.09Groktarckknight: we're not even getting apps
04:44.27Groktari wish this server wasn't so godawful
04:44.53Bribritoggles off all the time for me =/
04:44.59Groktari don't think we've recruited a single person from daggerspine in wotlk
04:48.39WobWorkbah, Frankenstein totally ripped off Stephanie Meyer's writing style
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04:49.35Groktari hear she uses exclamation marks very liberally
04:50.21Jyggai know Steph Meyer personally, she sells meat around the corner
04:52.42WobWorkJygga: that has to be the most obscure euphanism I've heard in quite some time =0
04:52.57WobWork*euphamism(sp?)
04:53.06WobWorkbah, no batbot
04:53.29WobWorkGroktar: never, ever read Matthew Reilly
04:53.52WobWorkHe writes like he's narrating a Hollywood Blockbuster written by a nine year old.
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04:54.56cleverhow would i go about listing all the texture images in WOW?
04:54.58cleveror atleast all those visible on the screen (the images used in ui frames)
05:00.46GroktarWobWork: oh my
05:01.56WobWorkLiberally sprinkled with "Suddenly!" and "Little did he know... but..."
05:03.24Groktareek
05:03.47WobWorkhis 'heros' are worse gary stu's than Stephanie Meyer, imo
05:03.56WobWorkheroes*
05:04.05cleversuch as Interface\\Glues\\CharacterCreate\\UI-CharacterCreate-Factions.blp
05:04.15cleverhow would i get a list of valid images
05:04.42WobWorkI want to say "Well, if you're clever..."
05:04.55WobWorkbut I think Antiarc wrote some kind of texture browser.
05:05.34clevermy current guess is to just search the MPQ files for strings or find some kind of MPQ unpacker
05:06.34Arrowmasterthere are many mpq tools out there
05:06.47cleveryeah, mpq gives off the feeling of being a standard packing format
05:08.17cleveri'm guessing it basicaly acts like .zip files
05:08.40Arrowmastermore advanced than that i think
05:09.04Arrowmasterin the past ive used this tool http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html
05:09.06Arrowmasterthe top one
05:09.06cleverhow could it be more advanced?
05:09.31Arrowmasterwell for one zip is an extremely bad format
05:09.31orionshocknevcairiel, ckknight , a channel mod:   digmouse messed up his irc client the other day and cause a flood connect/disconnect situation.. he's requesting to be unbaned. He's currently on digmouse|wtf
05:09.55ArrowmasterCairenn: ^^
05:10.01Arrowmastershes the one that did it
05:10.24orionshockah he's also banned in wowuidev too
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05:11.40Cairennnot any longer
05:11.41cleverArrowmaster: http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/namebreak.html
05:12.07cleverArrowmaster: yeah, i always use tar.gz when i can, but it seems MPQ is more of a bash table on the disk without any actual filenames
05:12.31Arrowmasterthe filenames have been included in the files for a while now, atleast with wow mpq's
05:12.56Arrowmastermpq's for older games wont depending on how far back you go
05:13.23clever'Since the game of StarCraft, programmers of Blizzard began to include listfiles in the MPQ archives'
05:13.26cleverah
05:14.03cleverbut it also seems that gives them a way to censor the file list
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05:14.27cleverthey could have data on the next 10 races they are going to introduce already in the MPQ and we wont even see it:P
05:14.33digmouse|wtfI'm baaaaack
05:16.33Arrowmasterclever: we would see it since it would be included in the db files, if they were only hiding art files they would have no reason to include them in the first place if they arent being used
05:17.18cleverArrowmaster: which db files?
05:18.49Arrowmasterthe .dbc ones
05:19.46cleverdont see any, but they may be hidden in the mpq
05:21.16Arrowmasterthey are only in certain ones
05:21.27Arrowmasterthe localized ones i think
05:21.45Arrowmasterwow loads atleast 10 .mpq's i think
05:22.02cleveryeah, i see which ones at startup
05:22.26cleverArrowmaster: http://privatepaste.com/906384674f
05:23.13cleverthats made by wow.exe before i even get the login screen
05:27.16Arrowmasterheh privatepaste
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05:35.32cleverArrowmaster: it seems like the mpq reader you linked me doesnt like wine
05:35.46cleverbut if those filelists the site also holds contain wow data, i wont really need it
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06:10.04Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r378 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- Fix ready check mark not going away
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06:38.22Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r379 Options/GridStatuses.lua: --> IterateRosterUnits
06:40.20Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r380 Options/GridFrame.lua:
06:40.22Repo--Move bar (health, heals, etc.) orientation into frame settings.
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06:44.54Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r381 Options/GridIndicators.lua:
06:44.56Repo--Move bar (health, heals, etc.) orientation into frame settings.
06:44.57Repo--Some more work on changing the type of indicator between icon text and square.  Still not functional, but should not corrupt options.
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06:51.30Repo10status-res: 03Azethoth * r30 Grid2StatusRes.lua: Fix nil conditions
06:52.12Repo10status-target-icon: 03Azethoth * r23 Grid2StatusTargetIcon.lua: --> IterateRosterUnits
06:53.47Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r382 modules/IndicatorBar.lua:
06:53.49Repo--Move bar (health, heals, etc.) orientation into frame settings.
06:57.37Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r383 modules (8 files in 1 directory): --> IterateRosterUnits
06:59.08Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r384 GridFrame.lua:
06:59.10Repo--Move bar (health, heals, etc.) orientation into frame settings.
07:00.06Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r385 / (4 files in 2 directories):
07:00.08Repo--Some more work on changing the type of indicator between icon text and square.  Still not functional, but should not corrupt options.
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07:10.14RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autotrack2/. Autotrack2. trent2 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
07:10.19RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/noted/. Noted. corylation (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
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07:56.01Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r76 / (2 files in 1 directory):
07:56.19Repo[+] Modified PlaceTracking module on suggestions of ImmortalDragon2, thanks!
07:56.22Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 04v2.8.5 * r77 : Tagging as v2.8.5
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08:07.47mitch0elkano: recycle bin? :)
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08:14.33clevermight anybody be able to help me with ScrollingMessageFrame
08:14.42cleverit seems that nomater what i do, i cant get the bloody thing to work
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08:40.02jnwhitehclever: what 'doesn't work'?
08:40.07jnwhitehyou add messages, that's it.
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08:44.56kandarzAnyone know why my handynotes plugin EveryQuest Quest Giver's tooltips wouldn't appear over the worldmap (when not using a world map addon like Mapster, so it fills the screen). Whereas the default Handynotes still show their tooltip? Would that be how I'm using LibQTip?
08:46.29orionshockcould be
08:46.39orionshockhave you tried testing with the GameTooltip ?
08:47.25kandarzI'm about to, I use QTip because of the AddHeader, the only feature I use, so looking for an alternative and just ditch QTip
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08:49.20orionshockit's nice.. but use a text difference
08:49.36orionshocklike a +  and the sub sections as an indent of 4 spaces
08:49.38orionshockworks for me
08:52.04asmodaiorionshock: btw
08:52.19asmodaiorionshock: Yes, customizable, not made public yet on how to do so (ST:O)
08:52.27cleverjnwhiteh: its not visible on the screen
08:52.44cleverjnwhiteh: no mater what i do, it doesnt have any visible effect
08:52.45jnwhitehclever: did you give it a size, anchor it somewhere, set the font, add a message?
08:52.57orionshockasmodai, ? context?
08:53.11cleverjnwhiteh: x:SetWidth(300)  x:SetHeight(300)
08:53.19asmodaiorionshock: Context at the end of the line. You asked me about Star Trek: Online and its UI customization, no?
08:53.20jnwhitehx:SetSize(300, 300)
08:53.24cleverjnwhiteh: self:SetPoint("CENTER",0,0)
08:53.25jnwhitehokay, what about the other questions?
08:53.39clever<FontString inherits="ChatFont" justifyH="LEFT"><FontHeight> <AbsValue val="12"/> </FontHeight></FontString>
08:53.43orionshockasmodai, ah
08:53.51jnwhitehself:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop())
08:53.52orionshockclever, u set a font?
08:53.55clever<PROTECTED>
08:54.07clever<PROTECTED>
08:54.18jnwhitehyou can't set a backdrop color, if you haven't set a backdrop
08:54.19jnwhitehdo what i said.
08:54.22cleverah
08:54.40cleverok, let me try that
08:55.33jnwhitehthen we can see if the frame is on screen.
08:55.36jnwhitehif not, that's your first issue.
08:55.52clever<PROTECTED>
08:55.56cleverthis turns up a '1'
08:56.00jnwhiteh..
08:56.01jnwhitehso?
08:56.04jnwhitehdo what I said =)
08:56.08cleveryeah, i am
08:56.15cleverbut the game thinks its visible
08:56.19jnwhiteh..
08:56.20jnwhitehall that means
08:56.23jnwhitehis that its shown
08:56.25jnwhitehand its parents are shown
08:56.26jnwhitehthat's it.
08:56.29cleveryeah
08:56.35cleverits loading
08:56.44jnwhitehyou didn't need to reload to do it..
08:56.51cleverit was fully closed
08:57.09cleverclosed the whole game an hour ago
08:57.34cleverok, i am seeing a red frame now
08:57.41clever<PROTECTED>
08:57.51cleverits right ontop of the other frame, just like this line said to be
08:57.52jnwhitehwell there's your frame
08:57.57cleverbut its not showing text
08:58.05jnwhitehthen the font hasn't been set correctly, or something
08:58.16jnwhitehself:SetFont(GameFontNormal)
08:58.19cleverlet me pastebin the code
08:58.22jnwhitehno
08:58.26cleveror try that
08:58.26jnwhitehi don't really want to see it
08:59.02jnwhitehthis isn't one of those issues that seeing the code is going to help fix anything.. its the behavior that matters, it doesn't sound like you're doing anytihgn wrong.
08:59.03orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:59.12jnwhitehorionshock: yes, likely
08:59.18jnwhitehand don't do that wiht reloading
08:59.19cleveryeah, i did get an error
08:59.20jnwhitehjust run the code
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08:59.28Repo10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r25 / (5 files in 3 directories):
08:59.32RepoRemove LibQTip requirement, fixes WorldMapFrame tooltip when not using a world map addon like Mapster.
08:59.45clevermy /reload is fairly fast and i'm not sure where to get the frame reference
08:59.51jnwhitehname it?
09:00.11jnwhitehreloading relies on oyur events firiing and your code not overwriting other shit you've done
09:00.20orionshockkandarz, it works for me btw :)
09:00.25cleverok, it says 'work damn you!!!' now:)
09:00.26jnwhitehwhen _troubleshooting_ it makes things more difficult.
09:00.30orionshockim running an alpha version from a few hours ago
09:00.35jnwhitehthen fix your setting of the font
09:00.40jnwhitehin your loading code
09:00.42jnwhitehand you'll be fine.
09:00.53kandarzorionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/everyquest-questgivers/tickets/14-no-tooltip-on-worldmap-in-full-screen/
09:01.41cleverjnwhiteh: http://privatepaste.com/f1e59cc41a one of the examples i found on google was setting the font like this, any reason why it didnt work?
09:01.44kandarzorionshock: I mean, http://www.wowace.com/addons/everyquest-questgivers/tickets/21-tooltip-on-full-screen-world-map-not-fixed/
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09:02.37jnwhitehperhaps the font isn't set yet at that point
09:02.39jnwhitehnot likely
09:02.40jnwhitehnot sure
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09:02.53kandarzI don't use EQ:QG so I don't care all that much, I've never updated the database for that addon
09:03.00jnwhitehI think you can inherit at the scrolling message frame level
09:03.30cleverit seems to work when i use self:SetFont(GameFontNormal:GetFont() ) inside kashi_chatframe_onload
09:03.37jnwhitehsure
09:03.39cleverwhich seems like the right place for that
09:03.43jnwhitehnot really
09:03.46jnwhitehconsidering you can do it in the XML
09:03.54nevcairielfwiw, we have :SetFontObject so you dont need to do that :GetFont dealy
09:04.57cleveryep, that works also:)
09:05.28cleverand its alot easyer to remember then the font_string:SetFont("Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF", 11, "OUTLINE, MONOCHROME") i was given ages ago
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09:13.01cleverjnwhiteh: thanks
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09:21.34Repo10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm 04v3.4 * r70 : Tagging as v3.4
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09:50.44asmodaihahaha
09:53.53olafskioO
09:54.12olafskiI bet it won't last :(
09:56.00nevcairielnah, he'll notice sooner or later
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09:57.45olafskiis there no "quit and format [requested by nevcairiel] ?
09:57.50olafski+"
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10:38.03Adirellehaste, are you there ?
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10:40.31Fiskerfuck whoever used remove on me
10:41.56Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r324 modules/Cooldowns.lua:
10:42.11RepoTrack paladins Ardent Defender proc and use bitflags to check if people are in our group instead of scanning the roster.
10:44.20Adirellehaste, ok, just in case you get this later: in vehicle.lua, we have to track the unit GUID to detect when the player jumps from a vehicle directly into a another one, see http://github.com/Adirelle/oUF/blob/master/elements/vehicle.lua
10:45.21nevcairielwhy does the frame care about the guid?
10:45.26nevcairielyou cant use it for any lookup functions
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10:50.22Fiskerbtw nevcairiel
10:50.22Fiskerhttp://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/02/22/gtx-470-price-and-psu-requirement/
10:51.56olafskican't all users get the remove ability just on fisker?
10:52.50nevcairielThe price is refreshingly low
10:53.41olafskinot bad, no clue whether that's a high end card or not though :>
10:53.47Fiskergoing to be moar like 299€ though in europe
10:53.59Fiskerit's the equilivant to ati's 2nd best
10:54.06Fiskerthough it's probably gonna be better than their best
10:54.12Fiskersingle-gpu wise that is
10:54.20olafskihm
10:54.34olafskiit costs about half of what my current GPU cost back when I bought it.. probably still a lot faster :P
10:54.40TorhalYou cannot deny the power, Fisker
10:55.18Fisker?
10:55.34Kalroththe power of the Fisker
10:59.07asmodaiOh hey, Fisker found his way back
11:00.04MegalonDAMNIT YOU, way back
11:01.37Repo10pitbull4: 03vangual 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-34-g67499c0 Modules/CastBarLatency/CastBarLatency.lua: [+1 commit] Also consider GCD in Latency.
11:04.49hasteAdirelle: directly into another one how?
11:05.25Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2580 / (4 files in 4 directories): PvP section revamp
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11:12.27ramozSo - any recommended cooldown watcher?
11:12.54ramozneed to keep track of my Chaos Bolt and Conflagerate cooldowns..
11:13.43olafskinever had much trouble just looking at my actionbars (with OmniCC).. but I hear event horizon is good?
11:13.48sztanpetput an actionbar in the middle of your screen, set it to click-through and be done with it
11:13.59ramozi dont use actionbars =(
11:14.06sztanpetnows the time!
11:14.07sztanpet:D
11:14.11ramozeventhorizon
11:14.18ramoznoes - zey take up much space!
11:14.18olafskievery single ability is bound to a hotkey? impressive
11:15.09ramozwell, i have a hidden bar for stuff i dont use in combat, like summons etc
11:15.11Adirellehaste, yes, that's possible in toc
11:15.14Megalonlogout is bound to alt-f4
11:15.23ramoz:P
11:15.41Adirelleyou can jump from a wolf on top of another one without touching the ground
11:16.03olafskifrom horse to horse too ;)
11:16.25WobinAdirelle, 'sawesome
11:16.26Adirelleso the modified unit never changes, it is vehicle before and vehicle after, but the vehicle GUID changes
11:16.29olafskiand you can jump between positions in some vehicles, dunno if that counts
11:18.06Adirelledunno, but with regard to updating the unit frame, tracking the modified unit is insufficiant
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11:28.58RepoCitadel/LichKing: Add spellID(heroic). Fix shadow trap CD & icon(Square).
11:29.26Vilkkuhmm
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11:51.07hasteAdirelle: so, wouldn't just doing a full update on UNIT_PET work?
12:00.15Torhalramoz: SexyCooldown
12:00.37phyber#
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12:23.33Adirellehaste, not sure, we're talking about the player frame dealing with vehicle to vehicle update
12:23.56Adirellehad to test it
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12:29.10Funkeh`ouch
12:29.15Adirellehaste, UNIT_PET is fired as is UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE, the issue is that the modified unit does not change, so whatever event triggers it, the frame isn't refreshed using PEW
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12:30.19ramozTorhal: Sounds like something Antiarc did? :P
12:30.50hasteAdirelle: so the best solution would probably be to simplify the update to just update when the event fire, and not block "unneeded" updates as they seem to be needed for such special cases
12:31.26Groktarhaha
12:31.32Groktar"hot tub time machine"
12:31.41Groktarapparently it's a real movie
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12:32.21ramozTorhal: sweet, thanks! looks great
12:34.50lebqzzhmm isnt it illegal to add a model ingame that shows on ground how far 30 yards is?
12:35.04lebqzzjust for visual range at all times
12:35.11Adirellehaste, maybe
12:35.38Adirellethe only issue is that every frame every event
12:36.11Adirelleso it will update every frame on any UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE (or UNIT_EXITED_VEHICLE) sent for any raid member
12:40.40hasteAdirelle: the events fire with a unit, so we could just use that to check if it equals the modUnit/realUnit
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12:56.18Torhalramoz: np
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13:01.57FiskerGroktar
13:02.01Fiskeri'm better than you
13:02.11Groktarhey
13:02.15Groktarwhatever makes you feel good
13:02.48Fiskeri wish
13:02.52Fiskerit's lonely at the top
13:07.32Megalonperhaps you should come down from the dungheap then
13:07.54FiskerDidn't know you considered yourself dung
13:07.58Fiskerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5woNs9WRE
13:08.21BrunersFisker is the best
13:08.25Fiskerhey Bruners
13:10.14Megalonyou don't seem to know a lot of people Bruners
13:10.24Megalonprobably just Fisker and his mom
13:10.45Brunersi know enough to know that Fisker is better than you
13:11.03Megalonthe tapir is better than me
13:11.10Megalonbut fisker, not really :7
13:14.28FiskerThat's odd
13:14.45FiskerBecause no less than 10 minutes ago you agreed with me being better than yourself
13:14.57FiskerAs i recall it you described yourself as "dung"
13:18.46Megalonyou always mix it up
13:18.59Megalondung is your mothers maiden name
13:19.02Megalonget over it
13:19.30Megalonand we all agree
13:19.32Megalonshe is quite a heap
13:36.33cleverwtf, wow keeps setting its home dir to read only
13:36.36cleverand locking itself out
13:37.17cleverd---r-x--- 8 clever clever 4096 Feb 16 01:33 .wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft
13:37.20hasteclever: don't use the launcher
13:37.30cleverit hasnt done this to me before
13:37.33hasteand afaik it's fixed with later versions of wine
13:37.45haste.26+ or so, can't really remember
13:38.05cleverwine-1.1.34
13:39.11haste.39 is the latest, so I would update then
13:39.15hasteor just avoid the launcher
13:39.33Fiskeranyone mad an addon that overlaps the quest area blobs onto the minimap?
13:39.42hasteclever: it was fixed in .36
13:40.12hasteFisker: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16023-QuestRouterLite.html does it at least
13:40.26hasteclever: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20643
13:40.53cleveri'll read it once i close wow
13:40.58clevernot enough ram for wow&ff
13:41.01nevcairiel@project questpointer
13:41.03Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/questpointer/. QuestPointer. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago
13:41.08nevcairielFisker:  ^
13:41.33Fiskerwhy are you playing final fantasy clever?
13:42.13cleverFisker: firefox
13:42.28hasteclever: firefox is shortened fx :3
13:42.46hasteclever: also, there isn't much to read really, it just discusses the issue and says it's fixed in .36
13:42.48cleveryeah, fx is the official way, but everybody uses ff
13:43.07FiskerAnd it is my job to make sure you don't
13:43.08Fisker:3
13:43.18cleverlol
13:43.40cleverFisker: is it your job to help make fx suck less ram?, it practicaly cripples my system when resuming my tabs
13:43.50Fiskernaw
13:44.28olafskicripples while loading or after it's loaded?
13:44.39cleverolafski: a little of both
13:44.56Groktarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0zt4opqL18&feature=popt18us02
13:44.59cleverwhen resuming it takes lots of cpu, and then its taking a constant large ammount of ram
13:45.12clevermost minor things like changing tabs cause alot of swapping
13:45.20Groktari had this call at least 100 times when i was doing sony vaio tech support
13:45.21Groktarkek
13:45.59olafskihow much ram do you have clever? :s
13:46.19nevcairielsounds like 1gb
13:46.21cleverolafski: ~512mb
13:46.33nevcairieleven worse :P
13:46.40haste512M is pretty bad :P
13:47.11olafskiyou play wow with 512MB memory? that sounds horrible :P
13:47.11hastefirefox is idling at 400M RES here atm :V
13:47.26cleverolafski: it is
13:47.29olafski250M it says here.. though I dunno what RES means
13:47.48clever271mb res for wow.exe
13:47.54hasteit's the value which is the closest to the real memory usage
13:48.01nevcairielram is really cheap, fwiw
13:48.12clever55-60% is about average when things begin to slow to a crawl
13:48.13hasteeven DDR3 is starting to become cheap these days
13:48.21cleverlaptop
13:49.07Adirellehaste, after some more testing on oUF' vehicle switching, I came to this: http://github.com/Adirelle/oUF/blob/master/elements/vehicle.lua#L14
13:49.17cleverprice == price * 10
13:49.19Repo10pokedex: 03stencil * r44 / (5 files in 1 directory):
13:49.20RepoRELEASE v.3.3.02 - Replaced "/pd squire" command and keybind with "/pd vendor". If you have a Traveler's Tundra Mammoth and mounts can be summoned, then we'll summon that. Otherwise we'll call an Argent Squire or Gruntling (sorry for that little oversight horde players).
13:49.49olafskihm, given that they are changing "usually always up anyway" abilities to "aura", why would the relics from triumph emblems still be procs?
13:49.50Adirellei.e. fully refresh the frame if the unit actually changed, or if we got an UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE about self.unit or self.realUnit
13:51.03hasteyou really need to start using branches so I can cherry-pick/merge the end-result :P
13:51.03nevcairielwouldnt it be easier to just screw all those special case handlign code and just update the unit one more time?
13:51.34hasteyeh, what I suggested was simply to just check realUnit and modUnit
13:51.50hastenarrowing it down to events and unit relations are pretty error-prone
13:52.48Adirelleisn't refreshing the whole frame every costly ?
13:52.55Adirelleevery time*
13:53.13hastethe *_VEHICLE events don't fire too often
13:53.23hasteI'd rather refresh it more than needed, than less than needed
13:53.44hasteespecially for vehicles as we can get stuck in a unfixable state :P
13:54.04Repo10pokedex: 03stencil 04RELEASE v3.3.02 * r45 :
13:54.06Adirellethe other way would be to "if(unit ~= self.unit and unit ~= self.realUnit) then return end" at top of update
13:54.06RepoTagging as RELEASE v3.3.02 - Replaced "/pd squire" command and keybind with "/pd vendor". If you have a Traveler's Tundra Mammoth and mounts can be summoned, then we'll summon that. Otherwise we'll call an Argent Squire or Gruntling (sorry for that little oversight horde players).
13:54.31hastethat's really what I had in mind
13:55.41Adirelleerm, wait, I think there was a reason we didn't do this
13:55.41hastethe next problem is that your branch is too dirty for merging, and even cherry-picking of commits when it comes to attribution
13:56.31nevcairielhaste: some people just fail the concepts of feature branches if they expect upstream merges
13:56.32hastemost likely the frame swapping on pets
13:56.43hastenevcairiel: yes, oUF has several of those :P
13:56.49haste(failures that is)
13:56.56Adirelleyes, it's more my own draft than a clear branch
13:57.19Adirellenevcairiel, actually I didn't really expected haste to merge my work, he asked to
13:57.32hastedo that work in a branch, then merge it into your master (or a feature branch) as a single-commit
13:57.57hastethe only reason I ask you to do this is attribution for the patch
13:58.45hastethese changes are generally so small that I can do it manually
13:58.48nevcairieli usually keep master sycned to upstream master, keep changes in individual branches, and have a big branch where i merge all my stuff in for usage
14:00.18nevcairielworked out pretty good so far =)
14:01.38AdirelleI don't mind if main oUF log says you did the change instead of me
14:01.41hasteonly have four entries in git stash atm :P
14:01.51nevcairieli try to not need stash
14:02.12hasteI use stash when I'm working on something and suddenly get dragged into a raid or so
14:02.58nevcairieli usually just commit that and ammend the commit later :d
14:03.34hasteyeh, that's also possible, but I'd rather just stash it so I don't forget :P
14:03.59nevcairieli would probably forget the stash after a few hours surprise-raid
14:04.24hasteI'd notice it when my changes are missing from the branch :P
14:04.39hasteif I had committed I would just continue on top of that and having to rewrite history later on
14:04.53nevcairielheh
14:05.06nevcairielthats how our minds work differently!
14:05.23hasteand why git is awesome
14:06.18nevcairielindeed, that was so annoying with svn
14:06.32nevcairielno stash or ammending commits, switching branches is so evil
14:06.36nevcairielhell, branches are so evil
14:07.01hasteyeh, I always use git-svn these days when working towards SVN repos
14:07.15hasteI barely remember how to use svn directly these days
14:07.17nevcairielpeople that are like "svn is enough for my single person project" never used git with a proper workflow :
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14:08.46asmodaiFisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUxF4XWtj4g&hd=1
14:09.42Axodiousgahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
14:09.46Adirellehrm, would rebasing help cleaning up my branch ?
14:09.55Axodiousso just finished reformatting one of my clients network
14:09.59Axodiousnew server isntall etc etc
14:10.03hasterebase will just move your changes on-top of my master
14:10.09Axodiousso one of the clients calls me this morning
14:10.32Axodiousapparently he has been storing ALL of his documents in the recycle bin
14:10.39clever...
14:10.40hastehttp://github.com/haste/oUF/network should give you a good overview of how you branch differs from mine :p
14:11.23Megalonhm, what a neat idea
14:11.28Megaloneverything in one place
14:11.30Megalon:7
14:11.32cleverAxodious: as always, if you make something idiot proof, the universe will make a better idiot
14:11.47Megalonand you can move everything there with a single button!
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14:12.12cleverMegalon: if you use 'sent to' right, you can move anything anywhere with 2 clicks
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14:14.40Repooptimizations, code updates, checking for released units fix.
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14:22.38Megalonbut the recycle bin offers an option to send the items back!
14:27.15Adirellehaste, you should be able to cherry-pick from my "haste" branch
14:27.41Adirelleuntil I find a way to clean up my master branch somehow
14:28.07AdirelleBTW there isn't so many differences, I'm wondering if I should not simply ditch and start over
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14:31.16hasteAdirelle: pushed :)
14:31.50nevcairielI dunno why you would run your own branch anyway
14:32.03nevcairielIf something is missing, i usually implement it, and get haste to merge it
14:32.32hasteI don't really follow what changes people make in their branches
14:32.48hasteif they aren't saying anything I just guess it's something stupid p3limish
14:32.58nevcairielwhy would you, anyway
14:33.48nevcairielwell i guess most addon authors don't really know the usual  open source workflow and just cook their own soup, but meh
14:34.31hasteI'm always semi-lazy pushing things upstream :P
14:34.39hasteI usually just do patches to unit tests anyway
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14:35.27nevcairielwhen i "fix" some software, i usually just do it in a way that suits my needs, and not clean enough to merge upstream :D
14:35.45nevcairielbut hey, occasionally it happens
14:35.55SunTsunevcairiel: so you admit that you're lazy ;)
14:36.21hasteI usually just patch stuff to behave nicely under network sandboxing
14:36.27nevcairielI'm in IT, what else would i be?
14:36.31hasteso it isn't that important to push it upstream
14:36.53harlhi
14:41.05Fiskerhttp://www.sabrepc.com/p-174-xfx-geforce-gtx-480-2gb-gddr5-pci-express-x16-retail.aspx
14:41.09Fiskernom nom nom
14:41.37Adirellenevcairiel, I have the same issue as you, e.g. sometimes the way I change the stuff doesn't please the original author, so it barely gets merged in upstream
14:42.09Adirellesometimes the author just doesn't care to what I did and ask me not to annoy him with it
14:42.24hasteupstream has good reasons for being picky like that tho'
14:43.20Adirelleright, but it depends more on people actually
14:44.45Adirelleit seems some author are not willing to work with others
14:44.51AdirelleauthorS*
14:45.26Adirelleand begin to be unpleasant when you tell them about your changes
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14:53.58purlACTION takes a big bite out of Adirelle's jugular vein
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14:54.34hasteor is she?!
14:54.40Adirelleouch, this seems painly
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15:22.28digmousewhat the heck
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15:43.20ckknighthey all
15:44.30digmousehey ck
15:51.44ckknightso I'm contemplating getting a new laptop
15:52.01ckknightmy current one is a MacBook Pro, and the big issue is heat issues
15:52.03Fisker(So he can play SC2 beta)
15:52.08Fiskeri disagree ckknight
15:52.14Fiskerthe big issue is being a mac ;3
15:52.45ckknightyea, I've had SC2 make my laptop shut down due to heat
15:52.54nevcairieli want a new laptop too, but probably not going to happen this year
15:52.56Fiskeri'm a jerk though
15:53.01FiskerJust rushed a poor zerg
15:54.20mitch0does anyone know if it's possible to do an anonymous checkout from google-code via https?
15:54.49nevcairielno
15:55.05nevcairielhttps requires login
15:55.15nevcairielhttp is for anon
15:55.19mitch0hm
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15:55.37mitch0and then it depends on the project whether the checkout is allowed?
15:55.49mitch0(I'm not quite sure if my gmail acc works as a "login" here)
15:56.09nevcairielthe login into https requires you to be added to the project
15:56.30mitch0hrmp
15:56.33mitch0thannks
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16:00.33|ckknight|rawr
16:00.34|ckknight|back now
16:00.44mitch0your nick is all fsckd up
16:00.47|ckknight|yes
16:00.56steevhe's kickin it old school
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16:03.07ckknightdid anyone provide any advice wrt my question?
16:03.41Fiskerwell i did
16:03.42Fiskerhoho
16:04.18ckknight:P
16:04.57arkaneswell, do you want a mac, or something else?
16:05.49ckknightprobably something else
16:05.54arkanesmy new work laptop is an hp elitebook 6930p and I'm really happy with it
16:06.00ckknightboth this and my previous macs have had heat issues
16:06.05pentium166stupid hp
16:06.17arkanesthis is the first hp laptop I haven't hated
16:06.24ckknightI went to dell and was able to customize a pretty sweet comp for $6100
16:06.34arkanesbut they appear to have totally ripped off whoever was designing dells, so its okay
16:06.34ckknightstill, I worry about heat issue with that
16:06.50ckknightdo they have anything like water cooling for notebooks now?
16:06.50arkanesmine barely even gets warm
16:07.01ckknightarkanes: even under 3d load?
16:07.16arkaneswell, its a work machine so its got a low end video card
16:07.17pentium166i live in canada so i can't customize hp computers or get them shipped from the states
16:07.26pentium166i want to give them my money but they don't want it, apparently
16:07.32arkanesbut I played psychonaughts and it was fine
16:07.45arkanesand I do compiles and such and it doesn't twitch
16:08.06arkanesalso 6100 feels very excessive for a laptop
16:09.14arkanesI've seen liquid cooled laptops before (closed system mineral oil, not water) and my older laptop had this giant copper heat pipe thing
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16:09.38arkanesbut you'd be looking at a portable desktop, not a traditional notebook for that sort of thing
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16:11.02nevcairielyeah, those are way too big to call a notebook still
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16:11.46arkanesheat problems!
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16:12.21ckknightrawr
16:13.15pentium166woof
16:29.06Fiskerckknight i troll u
16:29.17ckknightyou try and fail
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17:03.31Fiskerffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu
17:03.38Fiskerannouncement was the announcement of their announcement :P
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17:06.28nevcairielhahaha
17:06.33nevcairielin your fiskerface!
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18:43.04nevcairielwtf, 3 people in 5 minutes voted one ticket
18:43.11nevcairielsomeone wants to spam me
18:43.22nevcairielKaelten: can has better subscription fun?
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18:45.26lebqzz?
18:45.35lebqzzgot a question
18:45.44lebqzzthe pvp takeoverbar.
18:45.53lebqzzsince my minimap is moved.
18:46.00lebqzzi cant see it.. anyone know the name?
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18:46.58Fiskeryeah you're totally spammed nevcairiel omg
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18:48.10asmodaihttp://www.sublimetext.com/
18:48.11asmodaioh wow
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18:48.45nevcairielhm looks nice
18:49.03asmodaiyeah, sort of a Windows editor in the vein of TextMate
18:49.45nevcairielwait, they sell that thing?
18:49.46nevcairielbah
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18:51.53asmodaiwell
18:51.57asmodaitheoretically
18:51.59asmodaiSublime Text may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use. There is no enforced time limit for the evaluation.
18:52.22nevcairielif it reminds me constantly i'll be annoyed
18:53.34nevcairieli like how it comes with a dark theme by default
18:54.06Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r725 Dalaran/The_Violet_Hold.lua: Fix bogus bitflag
18:54.11nevcairielheh the preferences are just a editor for the file
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18:59.10lebqzzwhy not use context
19:00.28mitchnullnothing beats vim :)
19:00.34Fiskernotepad does
19:00.41lebqzzvim?
19:00.47hastevim.org
19:01.02mitchnullthat ^
19:01.19genetik-in before emacs argument
19:01.24nevcairielvim is for masochists
19:01.52mitchnullthat's what the lazy ppl say
19:02.16mitchnullit takes about 2 days to learn the basics, and after that you'd never want to go back to anything else :)
19:02.25nevcairielbeing lazy and still doing the stuff at the same speed is really a good deal
19:02.34hastelet me correct that one for you mitchnull
19:02.41hasteafter that you can't go back to anything else.
19:03.14nevcairielI have a mouse, and i know how to use it!
19:03.18mitchnullhaste: nah, that hits in after about 1 week of use :)
19:03.59asmodaimitchnull: I'm a die hard vim user, but vim is definitely not adequate in all situations.
19:04.47durcynvim is more than adequate in most situations, is what you mean.
19:04.57mitchnullyeah, for driving my car, I woudln't use it :)
19:05.15hastewat
19:05.24hastebut all you have to do is: :drive <destination>
19:05.53mitchnullbtw, for eclipse users: http://vrapper.sourceforge.net/home/
19:06.05mitchnullbestest vi plugin I found so far
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19:06.37nevcairielwouldnt it be easier to get a java compiler hooked into vim proper
19:07.27mitchnullnot really
19:07.36mitchnullat least those attempts are kinda failed
19:07.53mitchnulleclipse's code assist stuff is pretty good. would be hard to duplicate in vim
19:08.15mitchnullvrapper just sortof hooks the default editor and changes keys and stuff
19:09.30asmodaibtw
19:09.34asmodaianyone use pydev in eclipse?
19:09.41nevcairieli do
19:09.53mitchnullpython is overrated
19:09.54mitchnull:P
19:10.30asmodainevcairiel: did you configure pylint?
19:10.38nevcairieldont think so
19:10.57asmodainevcairiel: shite. Had it working before my reinstall, but can't for the heck of me make it work now.
19:11.10nevcairieldidnt even know it integrated
19:12.17asmodaiIt has an option for it.
19:12.29asmodaiApparently it's supposed to trigger on build.
19:12.52mitchnull"A Git Vim Plugin for Nerds." <- eh :)
19:15.36Grumvrapper is nice indeed
19:15.52Grummakes that horrible eclipse ide slightly bearable :D
19:16.10FiskerZarhan
19:16.11Fiskerbah
19:16.12FiskerZarnivoop
19:16.13GrumjVi for netbeans is better though
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19:16.59Fiskerhey kd3
19:17.01Fiskeri am hating you
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19:27.58Fiskerlol opera
19:28.10Fiskeri should stop using bazooka for that reason alone
19:28.23mitchnullhaha, I bet you use opera on your stupid phone :P
19:28.29mitchnullif not, you're a loozer
19:28.46Fiskernaw
19:29.06hastethe last version opera had on android was beyond shit
19:29.17hasteit was just some emulated version ontop of some shit
19:29.32hasteit didn't even use the native IME on android
19:29.43nevcairielI tried various browsers, but the built-in still feels like the best
19:29.55Fiskerbesides i'm not sure the mobile version of opera is a valid argument to use the desktop version
19:30.07mitchnullsame codebase (almost)
19:30.23Fiskerbesides it's not as much their product as it is their product statement that bothers
19:30.23Fiskerme
19:30.25mitchnullbesides, the desktop version is EVEN BETTER
19:30.48nevcairielbetter then shit is no challenge
19:30.48hastethe android version is pure shit, so that isn't too hard :P
19:31.06mitchnulldunno about android
19:31.07Fiskeropera = whining bunch of pussies
19:31.17hasteonly thing I like about Opera under linux is the responsiveness of the UI
19:31.34nevcairielwebkit browsers are fine like that too
19:31.42nevcairieljust firefox on linux is damn slow
19:31.43mitchnullthe thing I like about opera is that _it works_ out of the box...
19:31.56hasteso does every other browser
19:32.05mitchnullyeah, like ff?
19:32.10nevcairielinstall, start, works
19:32.13nevcairieldont see the issues
19:32.14mitchnullno gestures, no proper download manager, not nothing
19:32.15hasteI wouldn't consider switching to opera until it supported tabs in a tree anyway
19:32.20nevcairielgestures are sucky
19:32.22Fiskerthe thing i hate about opera is having to turn off shit to get a browser i want to use
19:32.22hasteI don't need gestures
19:32.24nevcairielhate them
19:32.25Fiskerrather than turn them on
19:32.26Fisker:3
19:32.27hastenor do I need a download manager
19:32.45nevcairielall plugins i install are pure convenience
19:32.47nevcairiellike adblock
19:33.01hastehttp://beverpung.net/images/nix/2010-02-22-041250_1680x1050_scrot.png it's like... hi2u fail
19:33.12hasteit event doesn't do font AA correctly under lniux
19:33.17nevcairielyour menu isnt readable :d
19:33.19hastenor is my typing good atm!
19:33.29hastenevcairiel: it's opera trying to use system colors :V
19:34.06nevcairielI wish they would just design a unified extension interface so lightweight linux browsers could use all of them too
19:34.16nevcairielbut hey, chromium is nice too
19:34.21mitchnullI have zero issues with opera under freebsd...
19:34.55hasteI still need tree style tabs in any browser :P
19:35.18hasteJS works fine as an extension language for me, since all I do is site edits anyway
19:35.34nevcairielthe browser i use needs a firebug extension
19:35.56mitchnullnev: have you seen opera's "debugger"? (dragonfly or whatsitsname)
19:36.06hastedragonfly for opera, firebug for firefox, inspector for webkit browser
19:36.11nevcairielnot seen, not care
19:36.12hasteall major browser have one
19:36.25nevcairielyeah but firebug is still superior to the webkit thing
19:36.31nevcairielbut it works mostly
19:36.57nevcairielthe extension interface in chrome is still growing, so it will get better :)
19:37.35nevcairielI need to setup a new gentoo when i'm done with my thesis and the last programming task for university
19:37.52nevcairieli kinda broke mine :(
19:38.36mitchnullnev: I just switched to freebsd from linux. I think it's worth a try (especially if you're a gentoo type)
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19:39.01nevcairielthere is gentoo for freebsd!
19:39.06hastelol.
19:39.11hasteisn't that project dead?
19:39.15nevcairieldunno
19:39.16nevcairielprobably
19:39.48durcynthe bsd and osx projects have been merged into the alternate-root stuff, which has one developer who's easily distracted
19:40.17nevcairielyeah the gentoo-prefix project
19:45.34Pneumatuswru event that tells you who's changed a raid mark
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19:46.44Pneumatusanyone know if DXE overwrites marks already on a person?
19:47.15genetik-it did at one point
19:48.05Fiskerhey nevcairiel
19:52.49Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1328 / (3 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
19:52.51Repo- Glyph of Lightning Shield is additive
19:52.53Repo- Slightly adjusted Lightning Shield and Thunderstorm coefficients to more accurate values
19:52.54Repo- Fixed Frozen Power
19:52.55Repo- Fixed Improved Earth Shield to stack additvely with Improved Shields
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20:12.40arkanesits a little wierd than plan b is advertising on hulu
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20:27.36EthanCentauraiAdirelle: ping! there's an error in your current oUF layout alpha
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20:36.27NeglectedGot a question; I'm trying to set up a slash command (/ga [achievementlink]) to capture what achievement was linked. I've got the basic slash command, but I'm unsure on how to check to see if the linked thing was actually an achievement and not.. say, a spell. Any ideas would be gratefully accepted :)
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20:38.35EthanCentauraicheck the hyperlink
20:38.44genetik-on p3 of putricide, do casters suffer spell pushback from the tanks' aoe damage?
20:38.58EthanCentauraiachievements start with |Hachievement, while spells start with |Hspell
20:39.12NeglectedThanks, Ethen =)
20:39.41NeglectedEthan* god my typing is horrible today
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20:59.00AdirelleEthanCentaurai, I've seen that, something with party pets
20:59.14Adirellethere's also a typo in the oUF alpha
20:59.20AdirelleI'm in raid ATM, 'ill fix that later
21:00.20EthanCentauraiI've not seen anything about party pets, only vehicles
21:00.54EthanCentauraian "and" should be an "end"
21:01.06EthanCentauraiI guess that's the typo you mentioned
21:02.24Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r31 / (2 files in 1 directory): Performance optimizations and lib update
21:03.08Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai 04v0.1.2.2-beta * r32 : Tagging as 1.2.2 beta
21:03.29AdirelleEthanCentaurai, it is
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21:13.13Repo10ldb-pitchspeed: 03Allara * r7 LDB_PitchSpeed.lua: - Add label and icon
21:13.21Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-35-ga577e55 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix Ticket #704: PTR error due to removed function.
21:13.51Repo10ldb-pitchspeed: 03Allara 04r7-release * r8 : Tagging as r7-release
21:15.39AdirelleEthanCentaurai, the bug about party pets only occurs on the source checkouts
21:17.04EthanCentauraithat might be why then, I use the Curse Client, not source checkouts :)
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21:29.27nevcairielanyone any experience with sata raid controllers? I'm looking to get something in the 8 port range, pci-express, any recommendations?
21:31.04durcynnevcairiel: areca 1220
21:31.44durcynor, to be more specific: 05:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1220 8-Port PCI-Express to SATA RAID Controller
21:32.19durcynworks in linux and bsd, userspace management utilities exist but suck, other than that good cards
21:32.37nevcairielI've also been wondering if there is a real big advantage in a hardware controller if i can spare the cpu cycles to just do raid 5 in software
21:33.01durcynin a word?  yes.
21:33.06durcynsoftware raid5 blows
21:33.51durcyni've got 8x WD 2TB caviar green drives hanging off of that one, comes out to 13TiB formatted =)
21:34.02Repo10castbars: 03xbeeps * r87 Castbars.lua:
21:34.04RepoReplace hooking with direct control of the scripts invoked by the frames to avoid other addons that reuse CastingBarFrame_OnEvent calling into Castbars code.
21:34.05RepoAdd handling of PLAYER_FOCUS_CHANGED.
21:34.06RepoTidy up the event handling slightly. Only Player CastBar can show the pushback.
21:35.46nevcairielheh you really went for capacity over performance, eh
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21:36.29nevcairielcan the bios extend the raid when adding new drives later on?
21:36.43nevcairieli would probably get 4 drives to start with, and upgrade later
21:38.06durcynhmm, not sure, never tried it with this firmware
21:38.25durcynand honestly for a big file store, the 5400rpm drives are fine
21:38.46durcynif you can find a cheap aacraid that'd be a good option too, but they're usually expensive :(
21:39.08durcynand have those obnoxious dell logos on them, etc
21:39.17nevcairielaacraid? thats adaptec, isnt it?
21:39.26nevcairiela friend of mine has a 3ware and is pretty happy with that
21:39.40durcynyeah, at least the ones that get used for PERCs
21:41.08nevcairielOnline RAID capacity expansion and RAID level migration simultaneously
21:41.12nevcairielapparently it does that
21:42.59durcyni'd be more worried about the drives tbqh
21:43.56durcynfucking hd manufacturers are starting to disable delayed error correction in their consumer drives, which fucks up parity and causes constant resyncs
21:44.39nevcairieland don't really want to get a raid-edition drive
21:44.57durcynyou mean "pay double" :|
21:45.05nevcairielindeed
21:54.47sylvanaarmorning folks
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21:58.21Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-37-gc32ec6e / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
21:58.23Repoc32ec6e: Fix Ticket #704: PTR error due to removed function.  Without extra stuff
21:58.24Repocb53d42: Revert "Fix Ticket #704: PTR error due to removed function."
21:59.43Repo10wholib: 03sylvanaar 042.0.113 * r113 : Tagging as 2.0.113
22:02.15Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r290 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fix that new rank option.
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22:10.21Arrowmasternevcairiel, durcyn: i paid the extra and think it was worth it
22:10.40Arrowmasterthey come with much longer warranties too
22:11.16durcynextra for what
22:11.23durcynoh the drives?
22:11.24Arrowmasterraid class drives
22:11.30Repo10fubar_wholibfu: 03sylvanaar 042.0.50 * r50 : Tagging as 2.0.50
22:13.33Repo10census-wholib-version (experimental): 03sylvanaar 07wholib * r9 CensusPlus.toc: touch for library update
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22:16.12harlwtf.. i'm seeing my party members fighting invisible enemies
22:16.49CrazyBenny_maybe phased out?
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22:30.29Fiskerfhey Zarnivoop
22:30.53Zarnivoophello
22:31.21Fiskershouldn't memory usage be somewhat the same regardless of how many windows you use?
22:32.35Zarnivoopyes
22:32.42Fiskerit isn't apparently :o
22:33.25Zarnivoopweird(o)
22:33.44arkanesdidnt' quartz used to have an enemy swing timer?
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22:34.07Fiskerno
22:34.17arkaneshmph
22:34.18durcynnever
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22:44.41harli'd definitely been phased out somehwere. it's started when i was looting and then just solved itself about 2 minutes after that.
22:46.31harljust watched my mates fighting along meanwhile
22:46.41Pneumatusanyone got any suggestions for software to monitor multiple servers, best option i've come up with so far is nagios
22:47.08vhaarrhaste: 1x oUF-1.3.28\elements\vehicle.lua:14: unexpected symbol near 'and'
22:48.00vhaarrshould be 'end', I guess
22:48.02vhaarr:p
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23:03.05steevboo
23:03.10steevaccording to be.imba.hu
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23:04.40vhaarrnevcairiel: on the last two characters I created, the world map does not work when I have Mapster enabled
23:04.46vhaarrnevcairiel: on all my old characters it works fine
23:04.48Fiskerso what steev ?
23:04.55Fiskerwould you jump off a cliff if be.imba.hu did?
23:05.22Fiskeryeah that's what i thought
23:05.39vhaarrnevcairiel: I first noticed it when I recently made a DK and the map didn't work in the starting area; I figured it wasn't supposed to - then when I got to Hellfire Peninsula, it still wasn't working, so I relogged. Still nothing. I disabled Mapster, and now it works fine.
23:05.48vhaarrthe other character is a banker, so I never tested it on him before now
23:05.56vhaarrbut the map does indeed not work on him either
23:05.57steevFisker: it says there is no challenging content for me :(
23:06.31arkanesI guess you won!
23:07.00arkaneslets see what it says about me
23:07.10Fiskersame here steev
23:07.43arkanesit says my blood drinking enchant is "improper" :(
23:08.58arkanesno challenging content for me either
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23:20.57Gagorianseems like Blizzard has broken Lightwell on PTR, I wonder if anyone would ever notice it on live
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23:25.45FiskerYes Gagorian
23:25.57Fiskerbecause there's more players testing live content than ptr content
23:25.59Fiskersimples!
23:28.15GagorianBut lolwell :C
23:30.26arkanesGagorian: hey, what does the "crit depression" option do?
23:37.15Primerdamn, curse.com throws a ton of js errors
23:37.46Primeranyhow, I found myself in the position of having to defend curse.com against a guildy who claimed to have received a virus from curse client
23:38.03PrimerFirst question I asked: What browser do you use?
23:38.10PrimerAnd he replied: The Internet
23:41.05Primerat which point I gave up
23:41.38winklol
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