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00:01.23ckknightyea, I use PitBull4
00:01.26ckknightit works for seeing aggro
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00:01.36ckknightI just got TankPoints
00:01.39ckknightseems pretty cool
00:01.51ckknightcurrently I'm 23.42% hittable
00:02.03ckknightwell, and 1.12% crittable
00:02.32Superfly_and i have powerauras, to remind me, buff up divine plea, sacred shield
00:02.54ckknightI've been using ZOMGBuffs
00:02.59ckknightis something better?
00:03.12Superfly_i have zomgbuffs too
00:03.22Stanzillai guess Antiarc's blessed is not really finished
00:03.40Superfly_powerauras isnt a buff addon, its just a tracker addon, so you can set up visual alerts on particular buffs
00:03.46ckknighthmm
00:04.08Superfly_http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw12556.jpg
00:07.27Superfly_nowadays pallypower users cant configure my zomgbuffs, in the last 2-3 raids i had to configure it myself, dont know whats the problem with that
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00:09.48GagorianDamn, EU PTR still down. :(
00:18.48Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r329 / (2 files in 2 directories):
00:18.48RepoReadyCheck module was reading a global 'db', so this might've caused some issues.
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00:20.40arkanesSuperfly_: theres some glitch where it gets stuck in spam-announce mode
00:21.11arkanesSuperfly_: I wasn't able to recreate it in testing, sadly, but I just commented out the announce call in the RRU event handler and it seems to work fine still
00:22.35Superfly_hm, good to know
00:31.13Repo10bigbrother_ready: 03profalbert 07master * v0.9-17-gddda9b7 Core.lua: [+2 commits]
00:31.15Repoddda9b7: add options (to modify the expiration-threshold)
00:31.16Repoe2172c6: add proper tooltip
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00:46.20Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r330 oRA3.lua: Make sure the contentFrame is the right size.
00:47.11vhaarrhmz
00:47.23vhaarrdidn't they add in some utf8-aware string utils?
00:51.14sylvanaarwell
00:51.33sylvanaarlower and upper work
00:52.15Aeyanckknight: I dunno about Paladin specific, but I enjoy MagicMarker now that I've got it set up properly. Keeps overgeared DPS from going batshit on something I've barely touched yet.
00:52.18AeyanWell, most of the time.
00:52.29Repo10simpletankframes: 03Rabbit * r13 frames.lua: Shorten the name if longer than 12 chars.
00:52.31ckknightAeyan: I've been using LuckyCharms for marking people
00:52.37AeyanAh, no worries then.
00:54.40sylvanaarok wow opera is fast
00:54.53Brunerscompared to
00:54.58sylvanaarfirefail
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00:56.21sylvanaarits still slower than safari imho
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01:00.43vhaarrsafari is a native application and they do lots of ugly hacks to speed up things
01:00.59vhaarrlike microsoft used to do, hiding API and stuff that only they could use in order to have a competitive advantage
01:01.19vhaarrbut Apple was called on it a year or two ago and they opened up a bit I think
01:01.40vhaarrin any case Firefox and Opera are not native applications which naturally induces some overhead
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01:02.34Brunersvhaarr: kinda depends if he is running safari on windows or a mac
01:03.11vhaarrif he was running it on windows he would not be praising its speed :P
01:03.26Bruners:P
01:04.02Brunersis there safari for linux?
01:06.22eidolarrI don't think so
01:06.28eidolarris there any of the apple suite for linux?
01:07.59Repo10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r40 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added code to detect and ignore Wintergrasp raids.
01:08.24Brunersno idea, i keep far away from apple products
01:10.50eidolarrit's hard to do, they are crafty
01:10.58steev"the apple suite"
01:11.17eidolarrI remember once quicktime autoupdated and I missed have missed a checkbox because my desktop had itunes and safari icons all over it
01:13.33Brunersi remember not installing quicktime
01:25.32eidolarri had a few games that required it back in the day
01:25.42eidolarrwhich i still play
01:25.58Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r298 / (2 files in 2 directories): few fixes
01:26.00Repolocalize some funtions and variables and add scope
01:27.06WobWork=(
01:27.13WobWorkI read that as "Localize some futons"
01:29.18Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r331 oRA3.lua:
01:29.20RepoMake sure the disband button is enabled if we are promoted at the time of frame creation.
01:51.05steeveidolarr: so what is this "apple suite" that you want to know if its available for linux?
01:52.10eidolarrsafari, itunes, xcode, all that jazz
01:52.19eidolarrBruners was asking not me
01:52.43steev19:06 < eidolarr> is there any of the apple suite for linux?
01:53.06steevoh got ya
01:54.18steevBruners: you don't need safari, you have webkit already (konqeror or whatever for kde, epiphany supports webkit, chrome/chromium, midori) - safari uses cocoa though, which isn't available outside the macintosh domain
01:56.40Brunersnot needing was not the point :)
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02:01.33eidolarris there any sort of cocoa emulation project?
02:02.17WobWorkif there is
02:02.22WobWorkit totally should be called Carob
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02:17.49steeveidolarr: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2006/Dec-23.html
02:19.21steevnot sure how up to date it is
02:19.26steevbut apparently it does exist
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02:24.08eidolarrsteev: it seems redundant since cocoa is so platform specific and mac can run ELF np anyway
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02:32.09Bribrihmm, i wonder if i could theoretically hack aspell support into chatter
02:32.48Brunerswouldnt that require a fuckton of data ?
02:33.55Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7406 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Citadel/LichKing: Fix a bit flag, deDE stuff.
02:35.12Bribrithe english dictionary probably isn't that big
02:38.32Brunersbut the english, us, german, esmx, what ever combined is
02:39.03Bribriyes well, if i'm putting it together for myself I only care about me
02:39.04Brunerstab completion for known wow names could be cool
02:48.26Groktarbleh
02:48.29Groktarsaurfang 13%
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03:34.53Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v456-15-g01e4253 / (9 files in 8 directories): [+2 commits]
03:34.55Repo01e4253: Putricide: Add Unbound Plague cooldown and adjust 25h transition
03:34.56Repo5ba6932: Strip trailing whitespaces
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03:36.32Myrroddinhello all!
03:43.29Repo10smartres2: 03myrroddin * r87 / (2 files in 1 directory): waiting for accept collision colour picker
03:43.31Repoalteration to test bars
03:43.32Reposeparate visible bars and collision chat setting code: you now can use one, the other, both, or neither
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04:27.53BWMerlinwhat is the command to get purl to give you API links
04:28.20Myrroddin~lua
04:28.21purlLua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. It is the Portuguese word for "moon".
04:28.26Myrroddin@lua
04:28.46Myrroddinhmm not sure
04:29.06Shefki~wowprogramming
04:29.07purlrumour has it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com
04:34.25pompy!api
04:34.30pompythats it
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04:34.40pompyadn its lua_bot
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05:14.55Myrroddin!api unitcastinginfo
05:14.57lua_botUnitCastingInfo: Returns information about the spell a unit is currently casting (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitCastingInfo)
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06:16.53Myrroddinis unitcastinginfo() 's endtime adjusted by haste?
06:22.24ShefkiMyrroddin: Not sure.
06:22.44Myrroddini'm hoping so....
06:25.06Repo10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.2-1.0.3-2-g2e6b69d Prefixes.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed prefix and name for FuBar_WintergraspFu
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06:42.58Groktarrawr
06:43.02Groktar10k average
06:43.06Groktarwith no heroism most attempts
06:43.08Groktar>.>
06:45.48quiescensexcuses
06:46.44SunTsuI'd still like to see "drum of heroism/bloodlust"
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07:01.17theoddone33how do you guys ensure that you don't end up with a necrotic plague on the raid
07:01.25theoddone33in the transition phase
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07:10.42Groktarmm
07:10.45Groktarwe don't
07:11.04Groktardo you have a disc priest madly bubbling?
07:11.11theoddone33yeah
07:11.17theoddone33we always end up with an extra plague somehow
07:11.23Groktarooo
07:11.24Groktaric
07:11.47Groktari was thinking of the wrong debuff
07:11.54Groktarusually we push him with about 10 seconds left before the third shambling
07:12.01Groktarand the timing seems to work ok
07:16.43nevcairielMyrroddin: the casting info is the actual info, when the cast will really finish, it accounts for delays due to being hit, and of course hast and everything
07:16.55nevcairiels/hast/haste/
07:17.30MyrroddinLOL at purl
07:17.45nevcairielwhat? it did what it was supposed to do :D
07:18.16Myrroddinthat is opposed to getting the endtime from getspellinfo() which probably isn't adjusted
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07:19.17nevcairieleh, i think cast times in that even are haste adjusted
07:19.23nevcairielbut could be wrong
07:19.46theoddone33yeah we're doing it in 2 shamblings in 25
07:19.54theoddone33we always got 3 when we were trying it in 10
07:26.50Repo10keepers-prio (experimental): 03Gilt000 * r16 / (4 files in 1 directory): neuer Versuch, Roman s.o.
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07:58.23Repo10smartres2: 03myrroddin * r88 / (2 files in 1 directory): zhTW update
07:58.25RepoA couple of minor code tweaks
07:58.26RepoTest bars now show a good res, a collision, and a collision on someone already ressed but hadn't accepted. (Green, red, orange, for those of you at home)
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08:05.30ElkanoAntiarc / Shadowed ping?
08:05.34ShadowedElkano: ?
08:05.49Elkanois it possible that EG has problems with DKs?
08:06.02ShadowedWell, I can't tell you if it has problems if all you tell me is it has problems :p
08:06.32Elkanowell, I mean with considering the role for their spec
08:07.18ShadowedDKs need 5/5 Anticipation, Toughness and Blade Barrier to be considered tanks
08:07.22Shadowedif they don't have those, they are basically failing
08:07.44Elkanowell, I have one considered tank and thus being blamed wrong items since he's DPS ^^
08:08.08ShadowedThen he's failing for having all the tank talents :p
08:08.22Elkano^^
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08:11.16Repo10smartres2: 03myrroddin 04Beta 1.01 * r89 : Tagging as Beta 1.01
08:11.43AdirelleShadowed, do you mind tagging DRData-1.0 ? (see http://www.wowace.com/addons/drdata-1-0/files/8466-r2-1-2-g4fbf1ae/)
08:11.52Shadowedoh yea I meant to do that
08:11.54Shadowed(Can't you tag?)
08:12.10AdirelleI could, but you are the project manager
08:12.26Adirelleso I won't do it before asking you before
08:12.37Shadowedfair
08:12.41Shadoweddone
08:12.45Repo10drdata-1-0: 03Shadowed 04v2.2 * dfbcd92 /: [new tag] Tagging as release 2.2
08:13.05Adirellety
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08:15.48Adirellehrm, is there something broken with the CC3 ?
08:16.06Adirellenvm
08:18.17Myrroddini found a possible bug, or omission on curse.com: the search for addons isn't finding some of them. has the db not been updated in a while?
08:20.06Elkanobtw, Shadowed, as a suggestion for the raid overview, you could add another column for the zone's achievments
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08:20.17ShadowedElkano: huh?
08:21.22ShadowedI don't plan on showing the "trash" achievements that only the really achievement-whorey people go for
08:22.20Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2866 Database/Engineering.lua: Fixed "Mekgineer's Chopper" Acquire
08:26.49Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r7407 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update
08:28.57krkalike loremaster?
08:29.35ShadowedWell in this case more like Dwarfageddon :p
08:30.20Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r161-release * r161 : Created tag r161-release.
08:31.10ElkanoShadowed, well, I ment those for the bosses
08:31.16ShadowedNot sure what you mean still
08:32.06Elkanoeg in Archavon's chamber it would show a 3/4 and in the tooltip it would tell that the player has killed all besides Archavon
08:32.32Shadowedah
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08:32.43ShadowedNot really something I want to do, no
08:32.47Elkanook ^^
08:32.50ShadowedI dislike tooltip modifications, they're ugly
08:33.06Elkanono, wasn't ment as tooltip mod
08:33.40Elkanowas ment as additional column to EG's raid overview (x% equip, x% enchant, x% gems, x% bosses)
08:34.21MyrroddinI've been hacking away at LibRoster-3.0 just so PallyPower can go Ace3. I don't know enough (not even close) to make it fully functional. Anyway, that's besides the point. Question is: is there a desire elsewhere to get that lib updated to CallbackHandler-1.0 and LibStub, or is this an exercise in pointlessness?
08:34.44Shadowedthen no :p
08:34.58Shadowed@project pallypower
08:34.59RepoShadowed: No project found that matches 'pallypower'
08:35.08Myrroddinit's on curseforge
08:35.09mitch0didum
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08:35.37ShadowedIt seems rather pointless to just update it to Ace3
08:35.38Myrroddinhttp://wow.curseforge.com/addons/pally-power/
08:36.41Myrroddineven with the quasi-expected death of ace2 sooner or later?
08:36.53Myrroddinnvm the possible performance gains?
08:37.05ShadowedWell, are you the author of PP?
08:37.36Myrroddinno.. although the author has mentioned he'd go ace3 if rosterlib was updated
08:37.49Shadowedlazy author
08:37.58Shadowed@project libroster-30
08:38.01Myrroddini was wondering if that lib's functionality couldn't be duplicated with blizz apis
08:38.06RepoShadowed: No project found that matches 'libroster-30'
08:38.07Shadowedpretty sure LibRoster isn't necessary
08:38.31Myrroddinhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/rosterlib/
08:39.25ShadowedPersonally I'd say it's pretty useless and Aznamir is just being lazy
08:42.41Torhal<PROTECTED>
08:42.43Myrroddini'm just curious why searching for smartres on curse doesn't also turn up smartres2 .....
08:42.54ShadowedCurse search is the devil
08:43.04TorhalMyrroddin: Because Curse is ultimately broken.
08:43.23Myrroddinoh, well that's living in a perfect world LOL
08:43.26TorhalShadowed: What the hell did you do to be saddled with WoWI mod status? :)
08:43.59ShadowedCairenn|afk said if I didn't, she'd drug me and i'd end up in mexico at Blizzcon
08:44.04TorhalAh
08:44.10Shadowedseemed like the wiser choice toa ccept
08:44.21TorhalI still have no clue what happened regarding me and WoWAce/CF
08:44.58Shadowed?
08:48.19Repo10raidycheck: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0-beta-5 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
08:48.21Repof811a9c: Locales updated.
08:48.25Repod66ea42: Changed the way panel is updated so it doesn't show empty columns anymore.
08:48.27Repobd0788d: Enhanced a bit the multi-column layout.
08:48.28Repo7759416: Revamped configuration a bit.
08:48.37Repo10raidycheck: 03Adirelle 041.0-beta-5 * 1203682 /: [new tag] Tagging as "1.0-beta-5".
08:48.38TorhalShadowed: Oh, as far as how I was saddled
08:48.48Shadowedahh
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08:58.27Repo10autopartybuttons (experimental): 03OrionShock 07master * v0.1-beta-21-g39b81eb / (6 files in 1 directory): [+13 commits] (9 truncated)
08:58.28orionshock... another round of OCD updates to my addon :)
08:58.28Repo39b81eb: update generic file to new format and methods
08:58.30Repo777c986: another typo
08:58.31Repob1980e6: fix typo
08:58.31Repo3517481: more formatting to priest module
08:59.06orionshockping Torhal , can i get AutoPartyButtons upgraded from experimental status
09:01.24Repo10autopartybuttons (experimental): 03OrionShock 04v0.2-beta * 0823d75 /: [new tag] tag v0.2 beta, lots of changes, added pally module. Need more ideas for buttons now that there are options
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09:06.01RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autopartybuttons/. AutoPartyButtons. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
09:06.09Torhalorionshock: Next time, edit the project - "Resubmit for approval" :)
09:06.31TorhalThat is, if it's experimental
09:14.25orionshockah, didn't see that
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09:25.42Myrroddinis it possible, using svn, to update the locales without committing a new version altogether? for example, if you have MyAddon v1.0 and someone kindly updates the deDE, can you commit MyAddon 1.0 with the update, or must you tag MyAddon 1.01?
09:26.04orionshockMyrroddin, have to tag
09:26.14Myrroddind'oh. was afraid of that
09:26.16Myrroddinthanks
09:26.42orionshockthat's why i always wait on tags, so the translators can have their go at it
09:28.02Myrroddinin my case, they can go nuts now. i will be adding new stuff to smartres2, but unless a critical fix needs to happen now-ish, i'm taking a break and playing the game
09:29.42Myrroddinand if anyone is in here that has helped me along the way, i'd like to take a moment to say THANK YOU! i did my best to give credit where credit is due within the addon itself
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09:37.58sylvanaar_atworkgood morning
09:42.54quiescensgo to sleep
09:43.06sylvanaar_atworki did
09:43.12Myrroddinyep. g'night everybody
09:43.25sylvanaar_atworknight Myrroddin
09:43.43Myrroddinnight sylvanaar
09:45.25sylvanaar_atworkquiescens: you were telling Myrroddin to go to sleep weren't you
09:51.28Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2867 Frame.lua: Moved last remnants of "F_WHATEVER" to "F.WHATEVER".
09:52.43ArrowmasterTorhal: fail, classic example would have been FOO_BAR to FOO.BAR
09:53.11TorhalArrowmaster: I couldn't work in BAZ, so I said fuck it.
09:53.14Torhal:D
09:54.47TorhalWhat I really need to do is properly section these filter "flags" and make them proper bit flags.
09:54.51olafskiMoved last remnants of "FOO_BAR to FOO.BAR". BAZ.
09:54.52olafski:-)
09:55.03olafskieh. damn I messed up the ""
09:56.17Torhal128 booleans in a table for every recipe versus four bit fields would cut down some unnecessary memory methinks.
09:56.34Torhals/memory/memory usage/
10:01.03wink128 booleans for every recipe?
10:02.48pompywink: theres 128 flags and they are either true of false
10:03.12pompyit checks for each function call of the recipe if the flag is set or not
10:03.52winkpompy: you win 100 internets for the most useless, albeit correct, answer I read this year
10:05.08Repo10mendeleev: 03pompachomp * r284 Set_Instances_WotLK.lua:
10:05.10RepoPit of Saron Heroic should have the sets for that instance bosses.. not Heroic Azjol'Nerub's bosses
10:05.35sylvanaar_atworkCan someone rename the Prat 3.0 thread so it doesnt say (Alpha Version) on it?
10:05.44sylvanaar_atworkTorhal: are you a forum admin?
10:06.05wink"alpha version" vs. "alpha male" - coincidence
10:06.35[Ammo]editted sylv
10:07.22sylvanaar_atworkthanks [Ammo]
10:13.54Torhalwink: Yes. I didn't do the initial code, so there is fun to be had.
10:20.44Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r332 oRA3.lua: Don't try to adjust our contentFrame in combat.
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10:28.02sylvanaar_atworkBTW, I'm not sure most of you will care, but  Prat introduced a 'new' chat type PARTY_GUIDE, and CHAT_MSG_PARTY_GUIDE since blizzard didn't
10:29.36sylvanaar_atworkblizzard refers to it only as CHAT_PARTY_GUIDE_GET so they can format it in a special case test in ChatFrameMEH
10:30.30sylvanaar_atworktheir new programmers are slackers
10:32.10kandarzwas there no CHAT_MSG_PARTY_LEADER? I thought it was just a rename
10:34.55sylvanaar_atworkthere is PARTY_LEADER yes
10:36.03sylvanaar_atworkhttp://paste.wowace.com/1755/
10:39.46sylvanaar_atworkidk how other chat addons handle reformatting dungeon guide vs party leader, or maybe they dont
10:40.16sylvanaar_atworksince both dungeon guide and party leader have the same chat type
10:42.42sylvanaar_atworkbut i needed some way to reformat [PL] and [DG] separately
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10:59.44sylvanaar_atworkcan anyone think of a clever way to prevent checking in the preprocessed source files?
11:00.21sylvanaar_atworki keep doing that
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11:03.26SunTsusylvanaar_atwork: which rcs?
11:03.39SunTsuor vcs, whaever you like to call them
11:04.03sylvanaar_atworkwell, all of them really, but svn and mercurial
11:04.13sylvanaar_atworki have these in my code --[===[@debug@
11:04.30sylvanaar_atworkin my working copy
11:05.08SunTsucall them something else, like .pre and make a Makefile that preprocesses to the code file you need to check in?
11:06.59SunTsuor let make check them in ("make checkin" or such) and test whether they are processed or not
11:08.28SunTsuyou could even do that in a universal wrapper script to the actual checkin command, thereby checking whether it's mercurial or svn and check in accordingly
11:08.48SunTsuso many ways to achieve that ;)
11:09.29sylvanaar_atworkregex: (--@end-debug@)\]===\]|(--)\[===\[(@debug@)  replace: \1\2\3
11:10.34sylvanaar_atworkwhat i'd like is some way to make it a syntax error so the pre-commit hook would catch it
11:13.16Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r414 addon/addon.lua: fix an incorrect --@debug@ token
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11:13.52Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r333 / (8 files in 2 directories): add help and tooltips to maintank screen
11:16.41sylvanaar_atworkSunTsu: maybe i can talk ckknight into adding where the syntax check is being done
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11:19.31SunTsusylvanaar_atwork: that would be nice, yeah.
11:20.12SunTsumaybe with an additional marker wether it is left in the source intentionally or not
11:20.41Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.3.5 * r415 :
11:20.43RepoTagging as 3.3.5, support for GROUP_LEAD in the sounds module
11:21.02sylvanaar_atworkwell if its intentional you can use --[====[@debug@  instead of --[===[@debug@
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11:30.27Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r334 / (2 files in 2 directories): Some wording changes.
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12:25.40Repo10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz 04r28-beta * r28 : Created tag r28-beta.
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13:22.23Repo10kg-panels: 03kagaro * r348 kgPanels.lua:
13:22.25RepoAttempting fix for Stans reported error, GameCard expired and waiting on new one so cant test in game yet.
13:30.11Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r335 / (2 files in 2 directories):
13:30.13RepoTiny wording tweaks and properly disable/enable the buttons.
13:36.50sylvanaar_workAntiarc: ping
13:38.46sylvanaar_worksomeone is saying that the fonts i added to prat messed up something
13:38.58sylvanaar_work"The font module is set to Calibri, which is the font I want it to use, and still the description text on things, people and NPCs show up as Bazooka. I use Fontain to change my other fonts but it says Calibri on all fonts as well. If I install an older version of Prat the problem goes away. "
13:39.30sylvanaar_workis calibri even in any of the font packs anymore?
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13:48.23Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r336 modules/Tanks.lua:
13:48.25RepoRemove the up/down buttons and make clicking the tank name move him one spot up.
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13:54.21Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r337 / (2 files in 2 directories): locale schmocale
13:54.27mitch0push the little daizy and make them come up
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14:02.37nevcairiel!api createtexture
14:02.37lua_botFrame:CreateTexture: Creates a new [[docs/widgets/Texture|`Texture`]] as a child of the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateTexture)
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14:16.36Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r338 / (9 files in 3 directories): nuke the version module, it's really not needed
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14:28.41Fiskeri needed it [Ammo] :(
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14:34.07hasteFisker: trade your sc2 key!
14:35.18Fiskeri don't have one
14:37.02hastebut you will!
14:37.41Fiskerno!
14:37.51Fiskeri don't know where your baby is
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14:57.35GagorianEU PTR still down? Or has it been up at any point since yesterday?
15:00.02Repo10keepers-prio (experimental): 03Gilt000 * r17 prio.lua:
15:00.04RepoWeniger COMBAT_LOG_EVENTS abfangen um ein bisschen Performance raus zu holen
15:00.19Kalrothraus zu holen!
15:01.22nevcairielAckis: you should write english commit logs into that project requirements :D
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15:02.07GagorianPerformance raus
15:02.12hasteRAUS
15:02.13GagorianHe took the performance out of it?
15:02.34GagorianI DONT UNDERSTAND
15:02.42hasteI'm going to start writing commti messages in norwegian, yeah!
15:02.54GagorianI'll write them in Finnish
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15:03.20GagorianLess COMBAT_LOG_EVENTS out to catch a bit of performance fetch
15:03.26hasteI honestly don't think I could write them properly in norwegian :p
15:03.29Gagorianthat's what google translate says
15:03.30stupiddigmouseI'll use Chinese
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15:12.09olafskigagorian: "catch less COMBAT_LOG_EVENTS in order to save a bit of performance"
15:12.23olafskiis what translateski says
15:13.10Megalon"SAURKRAUT, SAAAAAAAAAURKRAAAAAAAAUT und SAURRRRRRRRRRRKRRRRRRRRAUT"
15:13.17Megalonsays my tanslat0r
15:13.52GagorianI belive it's sauerkraut
15:13.52olafskiit's "sauerkraut" actually
15:13.55olafski:)
15:13.58Gagorian:D
15:15.29mojosdojodefinitely Saurkraut!
15:16.26Megalonbut I refer to the 4th boss of IC
15:16.32Megalondeathbringer saurkraut
15:17.09olafskithat reminds me I had a nice recipe for sauerkraut.. gotta make that soon before I forget I had it
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15:18.10GagorianDo PvE retridins use pvp gloves for crusader strike bonus?
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15:18.59mojosdojoI think they have Saurkraut strike bonus!
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15:25.27GagorianWhy isn't FISKER answering
15:26.05mojosdojovomits
15:26.42mojosdojothanks Gnarfoz
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15:29.20Fiskerhey Gagorian
15:29.25Fiskerbeat the music video kids
15:30.02Fiskeranyway they don\t
15:30.06Fiskerdon't*
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15:34.18RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/packaging-an-addon/ by Ackis
15:36.35Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/tickets/934-windows-seven/
15:36.37Ackiswtf
15:36.39AckisI hate people
15:37.13nevcairielsubmitting tickets through the client is really bad
15:37.45mitch0also, wtb notifications on ticket status changes (both owner and submitter)
15:38.10mitch0ackis: what's new in the kb article?
15:38.44nevcairielclick history and compare
15:41.28Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2868 Database/Leatherworking.lua:
15:41.30RepoAll the BT zone drops got flagged as world drops.  No idea how that happened, but they're back to being marked as BT drops. Fixes ticket 929
15:41.41Ackismitch0: just fixed a couple typos
15:41.52Fiskerwhy won't you answer me GAGORIAN ?
15:42.33Ackisnevcairiel: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2177-disallow-tickets-through-curse-client/
15:43.19nevcairielI had to turn off the ticketing system on 3.3 patch day
15:43.35nevcairieli pushed the 3.3 version in tuesday, and all the EU users posted tickets through the client
15:43.37nevcairielit was annoying
15:43.53AckisIt's on Kaelten's list of things to fix once he starts back on CF dev
15:44.09nevcairieltbh i would ratehr have some wowace love
15:44.12nevcairielbetter subscriptions!
15:44.26Kaeltenindeed
15:44.28Kaeltenbetter subs
15:44.30TorhalAckis: Don't make me Fisker you.
15:44.45AckisTorhal: I'm fixing bugs :P
15:45.01TorhalKaelten: Ackis should probably get a Mac.
15:45.13Kaeltenhe'd be happier
15:45.18Ackisdoubt it
15:45.28AckisI wouldn't be able to play good games
15:45.35kagarolol @ackis
15:45.51olafskiyou still have your 360 ackis
15:45.58olafskican play MUA on that!
15:46.06AckisMUA sucks though
15:46.07Ackis:(
15:46.10AckisTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/tickets/898-just-installed-issue-with-mini-map/#comments
15:46.15olafskiyou suck! :(
15:46.42hastenevcairiel: it's the ACEFORGE curse you know
15:47.16quiescenso.o
15:47.23quiescensmoo
15:47.35TorhalAckis: Bastard. I was going to keep ignoring it since it was the only complaint of its type and, thereby, highly suspect.
15:47.57olafskithat horrible language switching feature is the first thing I disable when I install windows
15:48.00olafskitogether with sticky keys
15:48.03Ackisno I understand what he means
15:48.16Ackisby default when you set your locale to Canadian it adds english/french keyboards
15:48.41quiescensreroll english
15:48.53mitch0ackis: that ticket is epic :)
15:49.02Ackisanyways, afk meeting
15:49.19olafskibai
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15:51.22quiescensgasp
15:51.24quiescensso violent
15:51.40Torhalquiescens: Don't make me show you the photos.
15:51.56quiescensviolence is bad ):
15:52.24TNSefucktard huntard
15:52.38Torhalquiescens: Violence is never the answer. Unless, of course, the question is "What does V. I. O. L. E. N. C. E. spell?"
15:52.46TNSeI come out of ICC and he's nuking me down while I have load time, I respawn, mount up and he tries to outrun me with his puny 280% mount.
15:53.03TNSeand then he dismounts in an attempt to deflect with deterrence and dies.
15:53.05TNSefrom fall damage.
15:55.12Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r186 SimpleMD.lua: Comment cleanups, additions
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17:44.55Repo10ora3: 03Pettigrow * r341 locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update
17:46.18Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Kemayo * r271 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot (2 files in 2 directories):
17:46.20RepoSilly me, I forgot to add the stubs to instanceloot/heroic before I ran compresssplit.
17:54.10Stanzillavhaarr: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/7f6ffb7ba6f91f25ef95061869a5573f.png :>
17:54.29nevcairielthe pixel monkey has pixel overflow! :D
17:54.38Stanzillaheh :p
17:54.58Stanzillajust forgot to substract the width of those blizz tabs
17:55.11Stanzillai guess
17:57.02Stanzillauhhh I found more :D
17:57.16[Ammo]no those buttons don't get their width reset when the panel inset is changed
17:58.06Stanzillathe right margin is too small now for other panels
17:58.08Stanzillalike invite
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18:13.37Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Kemayo * r272 / (3 files in 3 directories): A few handy metas
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18:26.15Killmoreanyone here have a beta invite for Heroes of Newerth ? :P
18:26.19Repo10mendeleev: 03Kemayo * r285 Set_Instances_WotLK.lua:
18:26.21RepoTotC. Update will catch a new version of LibPT which will include assorted other instance bosses, also.
18:27.16AckisKillmore: PM me your e-mail
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18:43.16Repo10ora3: 03mojosdojo * r342 locales/deDE.lua: deDE update.
18:45.17Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r343 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: Fix readycheck options.
18:46.53Pneumatusare any of you lot in guilds, or know of guilds that make authenticators mandatory?
18:47.18Killmoreus, only for advisors and officers
18:47.25arkanes_I made one of our officers get one after the second time he got hacked
18:47.50Killmorebut we stricly recommend it for every raiders
18:48.18Pneumatuswish there was a way to validate if people have authenticators though, rather than going by their word :<
18:48.21nevcairielIf i were in charge, i would only give people gbank access that have a authenticator
18:48.29arkanes_Pneumatus: core hound pet
18:48.34Pneumatusoh, good call
18:48.35nevcairielPneumatus: ask for their account name .. or that :d
18:49.07arkanes_you lose the pet if you remove the auth from your account, too
18:49.15arkanes_so it's as good of an indicator as it gets
18:49.24Pneumatusyeh, pro idea, hadn't thought of that
18:49.52arkanes_now you can be all SHOW ME YOUR CORE HOUND and they'll be all STOP SEXUALLY HARASSING ME
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18:55.53yoshimowhats the price for an authenticator these days?
18:55.53Pneumatus7 EUR, or 50c for mobile auth
18:55.53olafski7 euro or so?
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18:56.18arkanes_the iphone app is free, at least in the us
18:56.33Pneumatusyeh, the iphone and android authenticators are free to everyone afaik
18:56.47Pneumatusthe java mobile auth is 50c to cover the wap push, i think
18:56.54nevcairielyou basically just pay for the text to order the java things
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18:57.45arkanes_there's the forum warriors who get all up in arms about how blizz is trying to force the authenticators on us so they can make huge money off them, but its pretty ridiculous
18:57.47ckknightdo you get a core hound if you use the iPhone authenticator?
18:57.50arkanes_ckknight: yes
18:57.53ckknightokay
18:57.55arkanes_thats the one I use
18:58.01arkanes_I'm pretty sure you get it for any type
18:58.12ckknightI have a hardware one
18:58.54arkanes_if the prices blizz is charging for them even covers their costs, it's just barely (at least direct costs)
18:59.06quiescensmoo
19:00.15quiescensoverrated
19:00.32quiescensalways seems to be the same people getting compromised anyway
19:00.50Gnarfozsylvanaar_work: argh... prat spams the raid lead sound all the time, even if set to none
19:01.54steevarkanes_: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=digipass+go+6+price&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=12171703582017422677&ei=BMmGS6SSDcWUtgef6dS9Dw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBMQ8wIwAw#ps-sellers
19:02.08steevi'm sure there is a discount for bulk orders
19:02.09arkanes_oooh, givin' away yuor secrets
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19:02.37steevthat i'm using ubuntu's firefox?  kinda a given since i've said multiple times that i use ubuntu at work :P
19:03.06quiescensreported
19:03.14arkanes_steev: right, and a blizzard auth (in the US) is just under half that price
19:03.25arkanes_with free shipping, even
19:04.00steevhrm
19:05.31arkanes_when they were first made available, they were about $15
19:06.17steevi'd say they lose a bit of money on the authenticators, but make it up in subs
19:07.13arkanes_well, they make everything up on subs, really :P
19:08.24genetik-arkanes_: authenticators were always ~$6 USD
19:08.57Gnarfozany prat users here? :X
19:09.00arkanes_I distinctly remember the total price, with tax/s&h/etc coming out to be just about 20 bucks when they were first released
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19:09.18genetik-don't make me look up my checking account history :P
19:09.20Pneumatusanyone know if you lose server first <race> if you race change?
19:09.35arkanes_it'd be kinda weird
19:09.37genetik-i bought mine the day they were released
19:10.22arkanes_well, I didnt, so I'll bow to your experience here
19:10.29quiescensi don't have one, yay~
19:10.54arkanes_I try to spread the good word by keeping my core hound pup out when I do my daily random
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19:12.15genetik-arkanes_: that's good
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19:16.14genetik-arkanes_: http://web.archive.org/web/20080822031244/http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080626-auth.html
19:16.27bluspacecowits a kitteh !
19:16.29genetik-couldn't find the press release on their current site
19:16.37bluspacecowa kitteh burrito !
19:17.03arkanes_hmph!
19:17.10bluspacecowwoops wrong channel
19:17.42genetik-bluspacecow: yet surprisingly not entirely irrelevant
19:18.03bluspacecowIo
19:18.05bluspacecowwin!
19:21.58arkanes_hmm anyone use tankspot? Their captcha doesnt seem to work in chrome
19:23.32genetik-i use tankspot, but not chrome
19:23.41yoshimodito
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19:43.56Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r345 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: bugfix gui update
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20:05.29Repo10avr (experimental): 03olog * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed a few bugs in range warning and bigwigs scene
20:05.31Repo- added frost beacon and festergut spores to bigwigs scene
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20:07.29Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 07cataclysm * r2585 / (5 files in 3 directories):
20:07.31Repo- Change DefaultFrame (very first beta and only a save-upload)
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20:23.24yoshimocan an addon tell the difference between the different playerpositions in a vehicle?
20:23.58arkanes_presumably
20:24.01arkanes_since the UI can
20:24.47arkanes_dash is not used to public speaking!
20:24.58arkanes_bah mischan
20:29.24ShadowedWhat do you mean yoshimo ?
20:29.31Superfly_does anybody use bigbrother_readycheck?
20:34.37Pneumatusyoshimo: UnitVehicleSeatInfo
20:34.51yoshimono raidbuffstatus Superfly_
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20:36.07Superfly_the latest update made all my addons to fail, guess its embeds.xml but im not sure about that, i dropped rbs, i suspect some fps issue from that
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20:41.50Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r416 modules/Sounds.lua:
20:41.52Repofix an error which was preventing the changing of the group_leader sound option
20:43.05arkanes_huh AVR is ambitious
20:47.41Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.3.6 * r417 : Tagging as 3.3.6
20:50.07Fiskerin b4 nerf arkanes
20:50.45yoshimoarkanes, it is, but the height is a problem , i had a few drawings floating if i move the camera into the ground ;)
20:52.48yoshimofisker, i dont think they nerf it.
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20:59.45yoshimo@describe range-display
20:59.52Repoyoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/range-display/. RangeDisplay. Estimated range display. Type /rangedisplay for config
21:05.38Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.2.5-7-g9e46df7 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
21:05.40Repo9e46df7: Fixed upgrade typo
21:05.41Repo5d56dc7: Fader events are now unregistered while in combat, and re-registered when leaving combat. No sense in watching them in combat, we don't care about them
21:05.42Repod859229: Fixed prioritize not working if debuffs are prioritized over buffs
21:05.43Repo59edbc5: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/shadowed-unit-frames/mainline
21:05.52Superfly_the bigwigs module in avr will show where to run with defile/goo?
21:08.39Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.2.5-8-gc77f7e2 ShadowedUnitFrames.lua: [+1 commit] Added groupsPerRow upgrade
21:09.23yoshimoi havent tested it yet
21:10.15Superfly_just checked the sourcecode, but it does nothing ingame, maybe i missed something
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21:15.30Superfly_ah, it will show filledcircle when you get defile, so you can see how big will it be, or a goo is dropped on a fix place, so you can easily dodge it
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21:23.32Repo2100c28: Location: cleanup.
21:23.33Repob2ba377: Core: removed a useless gsub() call.
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21:25.15Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r299 tomQuest2.lua: fix a few things
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21:33.46Repoceaedff: Ping: cleanup.
21:33.47Repoa765ad9: All Modules: removed a fuckton of useless nils.
21:36.57ShadowedDid someone make an addon that shows percent of play time by release date in your region?
21:37.04ShadowedTrying to search for play/played on wowace ends poorly
21:44.37Repo10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.1-12-g0601893 Chinchilla.lua: [+1 commit] Core: typo fix.
21:45.18TentacledOkay, maybe a stupid question... How is the sequence of event handler firings decided? If I register for, say, WORLD_MAP_UPDATE, am I in any way guaranteed to run after builtin handlers, or is it undefined?
21:45.50nevcairielundefined
21:46.09Repo10census-wholib-version: 03sylvanaar 07default, original * r13 / (3 files in 1 directory): Merged in changes from original version
21:46.11Repobranch to track changes to the original censusplus
21:46.26TentacledI guess better to hook on frame script handlers...
21:46.34sylvanaar<3 mercurial
21:47.32nevcairielif you need a defined order, hooking is your best bet
21:49.39EthanCentauraiShadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lifepercent/
21:49.42EthanCentauraifound it
21:49.46Shadowedaha!
21:49.46Shadowedt
21:49.46Shadowedhank
21:49.46Shadoweds
21:49.46Shadowed<PROTECTED>
21:49.48Shadowed!@#$
21:49.50Shadowedthanks EthanCentaurai
21:50.19EthanCentaurailol
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21:52.03Shadowedhrm
21:52.05Shadowed~seen rabb
21:52.08purlShadowed: i haven't seen 'rabb'
21:52.09Shadowed~seen rabbit
21:52.09purlrabbit <n=rabbit@pussycast.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 505d 8h 45m 33s ago, saying: 'anyone using kde 4.x or still sticking to 3.5.x ?'.
21:52.18nevcairielvhaarr is rabbit
21:52.21EthanCentaurairofl 505 days
21:52.28vhaarrhello
21:53.20Shadowedoh hi
21:53.36Shadowedvhaarr: For Lifepercent, is there a reason you use GetLocale to find their region, rather than realmList?
21:53.38ShadowedOr do you not remember
21:53.53vhaarrhrm
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21:53.58vhaarryeah there was a reason
21:54.05vhaarrI remember there was, definetely
21:54.15ShadowedkoKR/zhCN/zhTW use locale checks, EU/US use the realmlist
21:54.24vhaarractually if you check the svn history I am fairly certain I changed it at some point
21:54.27vhaarrah right
21:54.35vhaarrGetLocale doesn't tell the difference between EU and US
21:55.18ShefkiTentacled: For his purposes there is.
21:55.19ShadowedRight, but can't you just check for the CN/TW/KR realms by realmList CVar?
21:56.20vhaarrShadowed: ah, I don't think I actually added the zh/kr support, that was done by someone else
21:56.24Shadowedahh
21:56.43ShadowedOh well, this is good enough
21:57.24nevcairieltoo bad that they actually changed GetLocale to return enUS in EU clients, eh :)
21:57.52ShadowedHeh did they?
21:58.05nevcairielback in classic it returned enGB
21:58.15Shadowedoh that
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22:01.42vhaarrShadowed: how did you find lifepercent anyway, I didn't think anyone knew about that addon :P
22:01.59vhaarrand whattcha making?
22:02.01ShadowedArrowmaster vaguely remembered it, and EthanCentaurai tracked it down somehow :p
22:02.18EthanCentauraiI had a brainwave
22:02.29EthanCentauraiit doesn't happen very often :p
22:02.29ShadowedJust adding ElitistArmory URLs into ElitistGroup, but I need the region to know which region to pull from
22:02.42vhaarrah
22:02.53olafskithere's an elitistarmory? :O hope that does what I think it does :D
22:03.32ShadowedWork in progress still, but yes: http://elitistarmory.com/US/Mal'Ganis/Shadow
22:04.09Arrowmastervhaarr: i remember everything, how well i remember is a whole different story though
22:04.34Ackislol
22:04.40AckisWe're sorry, but something went wrong.
22:04.54Shadowedmmm worked for me
22:05.12AckisI loaded my own toon into it
22:05.17AckisI refreshed and it worked
22:05.17Shadowedah
22:05.30ShadowedIt might not be auto loading new characters if you go to the URL directly
22:06.03AckisI typed it in the the boxes, it processed and then redirected me, at which point that error popped up. Pressing F5 loaded my toon
22:06.12Ackishttp://elitistarmory.com/US/Thunderlord/Ackis apparently I'm elite even though I haven't played in 3-4 months
22:06.32ShadowedExcept for your chest enchant!
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22:06.51ShadowedStill a few checks that have to go in
22:06.57Ackisyeah I don't know why I didn't have one tbh... oh wait, shadow is my offspec :P
22:07.20ShadowedYou have one, you just have 10 MP5 on it :P
22:07.46Repo10castbars: 03xbeeps 042.35 * r90 : Tagging as 2.35
22:08.37Ackisthat's considered "bad"? I know + stats is better, but this was offspec :P
22:08.57Ackisyou like my trinket? :D
22:08.59nevcairielfor dps thats bad
22:09.18ArrowmasterShadowed: it wont load my character
22:09.22Shadowedlink
22:09.39Arrowmasterhttp://elitistarmory.com/US/Burning%20Legion/Tokrim
22:09.48Ackiswth is arcanum of burning mysteries?
22:09.51Repo10castbars: 03xbeeps * r91 Castbars.lua:
22:09.52Ackisit says I have one
22:09.52RepoAdd option to increase number of decimals on the total cast time (by popular demand!).
22:10.24genetik-Ackis: is that the helm enchant?
22:10.27Ackisyeah
22:10.28Groktarlol @ this ptr patch
22:10.33Ackisdoes it do gem checking Shadowed?
22:10.36Groktarno ptr for people with authenticators
22:10.43nevcairielAckis: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44159
22:10.47Shadowedyes, gem, enchant, gear
22:11.09ArrowmasterShadowed: it probably hates what i have equiped doesnt it
22:11.13Ackisnevcairiel: I never bought any boa stuff before :(
22:11.17ShadowedArrowmaster: No I think it hates yours pec
22:11.20Shadowedspec*
22:11.29AckisShadowed: it's not QQing that I have green gems btw
22:11.32Arrowmasteroh having one 0/0/0
22:11.34Ackis(uncommon)
22:11.34nevcairielGroktar: works for me
22:11.38ShadowedI know, that's one of the checks I didn't implement
22:11.41ShadowedAh, that would do it Arrowmaster
22:11.44Shadowedfixing
22:11.50Arrowmastermy first spec is 0/0/0
22:11.54Groktarmm
22:12.12Groktarmaybe it's no ptr for people with more than one account on their bnet account?
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22:12.21AckisI wonder if Shadowed wanted feedback or not heh
22:12.28nevcairieldid you recently change your authenticator?
22:12.31ShadowedI do yes :p
22:12.35nevcairieli have to use my old hw token on ptr
22:12.37ShadowedIt's still only about a week into testing
22:12.42nevcairielits not using my new mobile authenticator
22:12.47Groktari get a big "cancel" box over the window where i select my account
22:12.54Groktarit's kinda funny
22:12.56AckisShadowed: it looks really good btw, just nitpicking the small things
22:12.56Groktarscreenshot inc
22:13.11ShadowedAckis: Given that I haven't written HTML for maybe 4-5 years, I'm pretty happy with the layout
22:13.13nevcairielits probably the multiple accounts thing then
22:13.19Shadowedeven if W3C says it has like 500 errors
22:13.28Shadowedbut W3C are jerks
22:14.06Ackisnevcairiel: "As of Patch 3.3, all head and shoulder enchants that require a kind of reputation level to purchase are now Bind on Account." <-- that's what confused me
22:14.39Arrowmastercool i can put my +7 all resist on any character now?
22:14.49Arrowmasteri think its +7, might be +5
22:15.02nevcairieli doubt they changed it for those too
22:15.12Arrowmasterwhy the fuck not?
22:16.43nevcairielits still bop :d
22:17.28ShadowedHaha that's amusing
22:17.35ShadowedI didn't realize they returned a seal icon if you have a 0/0/0 spec
22:17.42Pneumatuswoot sc2 beta
22:18.23NivFreaknow you too, can stomp all over me
22:18.35NivFreakmarines+mauraders go
22:18.54EthanCentauraiI also has SC2 beta, but there's no Mac client yet :(
22:19.06NivFreakbets on there never being one? :)
22:19.10NivFreakfor beta
22:19.22Groktarfrost dks are going to be nuts next patch
22:19.25ArrowmasterShadowed: btw when you write out a url with a & in it in html you are supposed to use &amp;
22:19.32NivFreakGroktar: if that goes live, yes
22:19.32EthanCentauraithey said they're working on one so here's hoping :p
22:19.37ShadowedYea it's not even supposed to be there
22:19.44nevcairielthey'll eventually want to test it, but it'll take a while
22:19.46ShadowedI just didn't make it strip on the adder-thing
22:19.59Groktarit should go live
22:20.07Groktareven if they have to nerf them somewhere else
22:20.22Groktarno windfury for frost dks was bizarre
22:20.55ArrowmasterShadowed: i just fead ackis' page into w3c validator and theres only like 100 errors but most of them are fairly simple to fix
22:21.05Shadowedyea
22:21.18ShadowedI'm slowly dealing with those, but W3C is still evil
22:21.27nevcairielalso, XHTML is shit
22:21.31nevcairielswitch to html5 imho
22:21.46Arrowmasterlike '<a href="http://db.mmo-champion.com/g/268/"><p>Shadow Word: Death</p></a>' should be '<p><a href="http://db.mmo-champion.com/g/268/">Shadow Word: Death</a></p>'
22:21.48Shadowednevcairiel: I barely remembered how to write HTML, I'm not switching it to something that's even newer right now :P
22:21.58nevcairielxhtml is just extra stupid
22:22.02nevcairielhtml5 is easy
22:22.26Shadowedalso http://elitistarmory.com/US/Burning%20Legion/Tokrim
22:22.49Arrowmasterive been out of web development so long i dont even know what most of the changes in html5 are, other than i know it uses a fucking retarded doctype
22:23.11Shadowedhuh amusing
22:23.19ShadowedIt actually accurately identifies level 60 items
22:23.41nevcairielArrowmaster: retarded? they finally simplified that thing
22:23.50arkaneswow that is a stupid doctype
22:23.57Arrowmasternevcairiel: but it doesnt identify it as html5 at all
22:23.57nevcairiel<!DOCTYPE html>
22:23.58nevcairieldone
22:23.58arkanesI understand the motivation
22:24.07Arrowmasterarkanes: no you dont
22:24.09arkanesbut all it's going to do is make it stupider when we need html5.1
22:24.30ShadowedHaha what, it's really <!DOCTYPE html> for HTML5?
22:24.38nevcairielyes
22:24.44Arrowmasterthey originally were using something that actually said html5 but were forced to change it because some browsers without html5 support were reading it incorrectly
22:25.05Shadowedahh
22:25.11nevcairielits not like html5 changed much
22:25.14nevcairielit just adds new things
22:25.20nevcairielso it works fine
22:26.00ArrowmasterShadowed: it thinks my ony scale cloak is a tank item =(
22:26.09arkanesShadowed: are you running your actual EG code to create that, or did you port it all to some other language?
22:26.18Shadowedarkanes: No it's all done in Ruby on Rails
22:26.29ShadowedI ported all of the EG data, but it's new code
22:26.52ShadowedArrowmaster: Well not perfectly, but pretty good identification given it's meant for 80 items with more than 2 stats :P
22:27.14arkanesusing a lua bridge and using the same code would be pretty spiffy
22:27.23nevcairielpretty stupid, imho
22:27.30Shadowedwell
22:27.57ShadowedI was going to originally write it in Lua, but the two aren't really compatible. I have access to an insane amount of data compared to in-game, so instead I'm going to write a script to convert EAs format to EGs
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22:28.16Shadowedthat won't matter too much till Cataclysm thought
22:28.27arkaneshow much more info do you have access to?
22:28.51arkanesglyphes, I suppose
22:29.05nevcairielyou have all the databases all around
22:29.05ShadowedGlyphs, enchant item id, enchant details without tooltip scanning, XML format for *all* stats
22:29.28ShadowedPlayer stats too
22:29.34Shadowedprofessions
22:29.46ShadowedDrop locations, etc :p
22:29.58Shadowedhttp://www.wowarmory.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=48188 for item data is pretty nice too for reducing code complexity
22:30.25ArrowmasterShadowed: it says my tailoring requires two hand axes
22:30.32ShadowedArrowmaster: where?
22:30.38Arrowmastertooltip
22:30.47Shadowedoh weird
22:30.50arkaneshuh my vault experience isn't correct
22:30.55ShadowedAh the URL is wonky
22:30.59Arrowmasterneither is mine
22:30.59Shadowedlink arkanes ?
22:31.12arkaneslet me check if my achives are wrong on armory first
22:31.16Arrowmastersince ive done vault, just not since they made it have more than 1 boss
22:31.19ShadowedI reweighted it to basically require either Icewatcher or Fire-dude
22:32.06arkanesit looks like these kills are only tracked since most recent patch
22:32.07ShadowedArchavon and Emalon are 0 points. Koralon is 1 point, Toravon is 30. Need 90 points to be experienced
22:32.21arkanesoh, I see
22:32.28arkanesthat makes sense, its just misleading in the tooltip
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22:32.33ShadowedYea that's bugged
22:32.47nevcairielso i need multiple kills for 100% or wut?
22:32.51Shadowedyea
22:33.14ShadowedBasically all the experience numbers are weighted to require roughly 3 clears. Or you need 1-2 clears if you have "harder" acheivements like the Immortal or the insanities
22:33.30arkanesonyxia appears to only require 1 kill
22:33.35Shadowedyea Onyxia is easy
22:33.44Ackisyour mom is easy
22:33.44ShadowedVault is too, I should reweight that to 2
22:33.44arkanesso is toravon :P
22:33.56Ackisanyone want to play my account for me so I can become elite?
22:33.58Ackis:P
22:33.59ShadowedShe is, but you're cheap so she won't see you
22:34.04arkanesnot being stupid on ony is harder than not being stupid on toravon, I'd think
22:34.11nevcairielhum, only 77% ulduar with just algalon missing? seems like a heavy weight
22:34.18arkanesthere's 3 whole mechanics to deal with, not just 2!
22:34.27arkanesI have 100% on ulduar with algalon missing
22:34.27Shadowednevcairiel: link?
22:34.37ShadowedIf you mouseover the percent, it'll break it down
22:34.54nevcairielalthough i'm not sure how many yogg kills i've actually participated in
22:35.02nevcairielhttp://elitistarmory.com/EU/Antonidas/Nevcairiel
22:35.10arkanesShadowed: I'm not sure you shuld be able to get 100% hard mode ulduar with a low-lights yogg kill
22:35.16arkaneser, without
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22:35.26Shadowedwell
22:35.33ShadowedYou mean 0 or 1 lights?
22:35.42arkanesjust any low lights kill, I'd think
22:35.51nevcairiel1 is in the meta, isnt it?
22:35.57arkanesI have all the keeper HMs, and apparently thats enough for 100 but I've never done yogg with even 3 keepers
22:36.40arkanesyes, 1 is in the meta
22:36.49nevcairielimho 1 should be required for 100% then
22:36.55arkanesI guess it depends on what you think 100% is supposed to indicate
22:36.57Pneumatushttp://elitistarmory.com/EU/Turalyon/Ismo
22:37.05Pneumatussuch 12% VoA 10man
22:38.05Shadowedhmmm why does that say 12%
22:38.09Shadowedoh
22:38.13Pneumatushavnt killed toravon
22:38.14ShadowedStatistic identification is bugged
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22:38.54Shadowedlua> print(15 + 5 + 10 + 25 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 25)
22:38.59lua_botShadowed: 125
22:39.54ShadowedReweighted, requires 1 full clear of all hard modes + 1 lights. Or 0 lights + feeds on your tears
22:39.56ShadowedSeem fair?
22:40.17Shadowed(Or 0 lights + combination of heroics, or feeds on tears + combination of heroics)
22:40.21arkanesShadowed: it didn't detect my 25 sarth hard mode achievs
22:40.36arkanesShadowed: unless you're only counting a 3 drake kill?
22:40.40Shadowed3 drake
22:40.44ShadowedI should probably reweight that
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22:40.50Shadowedsecond
22:40.55Pneumatusalso, show total mana
22:41.05ShadowedI didn't see much point in total mana honestly
22:41.05nevcairielonly 3 drake is something you can really consider hard :P
22:41.27arkanesI haven't done 25 sarth since 3.1
22:41.29ShadowedI'd reweight it so like 1 drake = 20% experience,2 drake = 3040% experienced
22:41.34arkaneswhen we were on 2 drake
22:41.38Shadowed40%*
22:41.57arkanesheck maybe 3.0, I don't really remember
22:42.02nevcairielman i'm so behind in content now
22:42.06Arrowmasteris 3drake even hard anymore?
22:42.08nevcairielwhat about 9 month break do to you
22:42.18nevcairielArrowmaster: now? no, just burn through them
22:42.24arkanesArrowmaster: it can be tricky if you don't do a zerg
22:42.37arkanesif you zerg it, it's easy. 25 requires a substantial amount of DPS to do that though
22:43.11nevcairielthe whole fight really gets trivial if you have loads of dps
22:43.14nevcairieleven without zerg
22:43.32arkaneswe 4 manned 0 drake for the weekly and its astonishing how easy it was
22:43.48nevcairielyou kill the dragons so fast, so that they dont bother you anymore
22:43.49arkanesI mean the fight was never super hard or anything but it was just stupidly easy
22:43.56nevcairielof course, your tank needs to survive that still
22:44.01Shadowed3 drakes was hard the first month or so
22:44.15Shadowedmaybe two
22:44.19nevcairiel3 drake 10-man was hard all of 3.0
22:44.25ArrowmasterThe Twilight Zone (25 player)
22:44.25ArrowmasterWith all three Twilight Drakes still alive, engage and defeat Sartharion the Onyx Guardian in 25-player mode.
22:44.27Shadowed25
22:44.28Arrowmaster01-12-2009
22:44.28arkanesdoing 3 drake legit is still hard
22:44.33arkanesmoderately so, anyway
22:44.35Arrowmasterthe date on that alone should be worth something
22:44.39Groktarmeh
22:44.41Shadowedeh
22:44.49ShadowedDates are too subjective imo which is why I don't calculate them
22:44.52Groktaryou kill all the drakes before the next ones land
22:45.04Groktarso you never really get the huge breaths
22:45.13Arrowmasterno we didnt on that kill
22:45.16ShadowedExperience is more, "Have you done this fight?" not "What version of the fight did you do?"
22:45.31Arrowmasterwe got the huge breaths
22:45.32Shadowed(and if you did it early on, you probably are going to be set as experienced anyway)
22:46.10Arrowmasterthe 1 shot tank so use that priest uber talent big breaths
22:46.10nevcairieli still prefered the 10man version, it was way more intense, imho
22:47.01Arrowmasterour fucking tank got 'Gonna Go When the Volcano Blows (25 player)' on our first kill, the fucking tank
22:47.14nevcairielits actually easier for tanks
22:47.59nevcairieli think it doesnt hit tanks, unless some other guy stands next to him
22:48.14nevcairiels/tanks/the main tank/
22:48.38nevcairielor he runs into one when moving away from the wall
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22:56.49arkanesit definitely hits tanks
22:57.01arkanesI never got it in any of our "real" kills
22:57.15arkaneswasn't until many months later when we did a zerg that I got it
23:00.41arkanesmitigation calculation doesn't seem to be accurate
23:00.54Shadowedarkanes: ?
23:01.04arkanesits' showing me as 57.55
23:01.04ShadowedMitigation is just uhhh
23:01.08Shadowedlink
23:01.14arkaneswhereas I am 69.48
23:01.18arkaneshttp://elitistarmory.com/US/Turalyon/Morelore
23:01.54arkanesoddly, the wow armory has yet a third value
23:02.05arkanesoh I have mark on in-game
23:02.26arkanes68.97 unbuffed, is what armory & in-game agree on
23:02.44Shadowedsecond
23:03.32ShadowedIt should just be parry + dodge + block
23:03.54arkanesoh, thats not what people normally mean when they say mitigation
23:04.06Shadowedlua> print(26.45 + 20.05 + 11.08)
23:04.10lua_botShadowed: 57.58
23:04.10ShadowedYou thought it meant armor?
23:04.12arkanesyes
23:04.20ShadowedI've got room for armor, hang on
23:04.28arkanesit's not quite avoidance if you add block in there
23:04.38ShadowedI need to add more tooltips to things too
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23:04.45Shadowedwhen I did a lot of this I didn't have AJAX-y tooltips
23:05.19arkanesprobably do something like (parry + dodge) / (+block) and call it avoidance
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23:05.33ShadowedThat seems weird
23:05.56arkanesAvoidance: 46.47(57.58)
23:05.58arkanesis what I mean
23:06.07Shadowedoh
23:06.35arkanesor even not put the block in the regular value, just have it in the tooltip
23:07.14Shadowedyea I'll do that
23:08.02arkanesdo you want to get into more complicated stuff like EH and total damage reduction, ttl caclulations or anything like that?
23:09.17arkanesprofession tooltips are wrong but thats probably the same bug Arrowmaster said above, right?
23:09.37ShadowedYea, thats just cause I need to update the URL
23:09.39Shadowedno I don't
23:11.42arkanesyay core hound pup teaches another person about authenticators
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23:16.34vhaarrgod dammit there STILL isn't any combat log event for a shaman using ankh
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23:27.28profalbertvhaarr: is that why bigwigs sometimes thinks we wiped when I used my ankh?
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23:39.45RepoNew way to detect shamans ankhing. Drycoded and untested. Someone test it please.
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23:45.53profalbertvhaarr: should the ankh-cd-bar work when I jump down from dalaran (in a raid ofc)
23:46.26vhaarreh
23:46.37vhaarrif you die at the bottom and then use your ankh, yes
23:46.49profalbertwell, it doesn't :(
23:46.54profalbertother CDs work
23:46.56vhaarrdo you have the ankh cooldown shown?
23:46.58vhaarrin the options
23:47.00profalbertyes
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23:47.35profalbertI can try make a transcript in about 27 minutes
23:47.49vhaarrI got mad, smashed my keyboard and hit the close window keycombo somehow
23:47.57vhaarrtranscripts are useless there are no fucking events for it
23:48.12arkaneshow are detecting ankhing now? inventory change to consume an ankh?
23:48.21vhaarrprofalbert: type /print GetSpellCooldown(20608)
23:48.31vhaarrarkanes: that's the whole point it doesn't work any more with that damn glyph
23:48.38arkanesah
23:48.42profalbertarkanes:I don't have ankhs in Inv ;)
23:49.01vhaarrprofalbert: PRINT!
23:49.03vhaarrwhat does it say?
23:49.22profalbert3568.878, 1800, 1
23:49.31vhaarr<PROTECTED>
23:49.40profalbertGetTime() 3830.879
23:50.38vhaarrasdfglinj
23:50.44vhaarrokay sec
23:52.06Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r347 modules/Cooldowns.lua: Add debug prints.
23:52.07vhaarrprofalbert: okay update and test again when you can please
23:52.15vhaarrthen I will be able to see what the problem is hopefully
23:53.03profalbertwill do
23:56.10Shadowedk those previous EA bugs should be fixed
23:57.04Shadowedoh right, now I remember why I only required one Onyxia kill
23:57.11Shadowedno stat for Onyxia, you can only tell if they killed her or not

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