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| 00:05.03 | Primer | Shefki: why must self:GetLayoutDB be passed a frame? |
| 00:06.17 | Primer | moreover, why can't there just be a global db variable? |
| 00:06.32 | Primer | trying to find an example of that |
| 00:07.05 | Primer | ok, I guess I guess I can see why it needs to be passed a frame |
| 00:07.25 | Primer | as each layout has its own settings |
| 00:08.37 | Thrae | nicklozon: I am curteous, not punctual. |
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| 00:12.53 | cralor | What's simplest way to tell if a player is online? |
| 00:14.25 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1374 Data/Rogue.lua: - Added missing local for math.max in rogue module |
| 00:16.57 | PProvost | cralor: UnitIsConnected() |
| 00:17.13 | cralor | thanks |
| 00:19.15 | PProvost | Always look here first: http://wowprogramming.com/ |
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| 00:35.33 | cralor | I just didn't know what to search :P |
| 00:35.50 | cralor | thanks again though |
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| 01:34.43 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r464 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-phishing update |
| 01:35.25 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.2.0.4 * r465 : Tagging as v4.2.0.4 |
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| 02:02.54 | Daduke1 | hey quick question about equiping item macros |
| 02:03.09 | Daduke1 | I have two of the same weapons, want to equip them in my main and offhand |
| 02:03.29 | Daduke1 | but /equipslot 16 weapon /equipslot 17 weapon doesn't work |
| 02:03.38 | Daduke1 | it equips my main hand and thats all |
| 02:03.51 | WobWork | maybe try the other way around? |
| 02:05.30 | Daduke1 | I'm open to suggestions |
| 02:11.14 | Antiarc | If they're the same weapons you may be SOL |
| 02:11.50 | Antiarc | There's no good way to distinguish one copy of a weapon from another, AFAIK |
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| 02:23.28 | Repo | 10xperl: 03s8095324 * r356 XPerl_CustomHighlight/XPerl_CustomHighlight.lua: Add new casting |
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| 03:37.31 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/rezzmon/. RezzMon. Finghin (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 03:39.07 | Torhal | Shadowed: I haven't looked myself, but I was told that LHC broadcasts to RAID when in a BG... |
| 03:39.19 | Shadowed | they're probably wrong |
| 03:39.20 | Shadowed | but hang on |
| 03:39.20 | Torhal | Figured you'd want to look into changing that if so. |
| 03:39.22 | Torhal | Ok |
| 03:39.55 | Shadowed | !api SendAddonMessage |
| 03:39.56 | lua_bot | SendAddonMessage: Sends a chat-like message receivable by other addons (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendAddonMessage) |
| 03:41.19 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 03:41.26 | Shadowed | looks like it only does it if you reload in a battlegroup |
| 03:42.12 | Torhal | So it's an edge case. |
| 03:42.48 | Shadowed | was |
| 03:46.06 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.6.2-3-gbf47647 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed an edge case where LHC would send to raid if you reloaded while in a battleground |
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| 03:59.38 | elec29a | hi hi could someone help me with an off opic question how could golfarmer make http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4631/wowscrnshot030810045659.jpg on our server ? |
| 04:01.10 | PProvost | Either a bot or much patience |
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| 04:02.39 | elec29a | ok thx |
| 04:06.50 | WobWork | the more impressive ones are the one where they have all the orcs alive and in formation |
| 04:06.53 | WobWork | in midair |
| 04:06.59 | WobWork | doing simultanous emotes |
| 04:09.14 | orionshock | IMO, cn IP's should not be able to connect to US Realms for trial accounts |
| 04:09.59 | orionshock | or use a proxy service for trial accts |
| 04:15.49 | WobWork | er that would be terrible to block them |
| 04:15.58 | WobWork | I would have been bereft! |
| 04:16.21 | WobWork | of course, I was already tunnelling from Beijing to Sydney via putty to play the game -anyway-... |
| 04:16.38 | orionshock | for normal paied accounts, it's all ok |
| 04:16.43 | orionshock | just trial accts f'ed |
| 04:16.58 | WobWork | eh, all the gold farmers have proper accounts |
| 04:18.47 | orionshock | true |
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| 04:23.02 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 6244ef2 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 04:23.04 | Repo | 6244ef2: Included a string to give more information how "Wispcloak" and "Deathchill Cloak" is acquired and added Charles Worth to the acquire for those two recipes |
| 04:23.05 | Repo | 2542e1a: Added two new custom strings to the custom database. |
| 04:24.30 | WobWork | http://charlemagneproductions.org/ |
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| 04:34.49 | PProvost | WobWork: Is that for real? |
| 04:35.24 | PProvost | Can't be |
| 04:35.25 | PProvost | lol |
| 04:35.28 | WobWork | PProvost: yes =) |
| 04:37.39 | WobWork | and just to prove that Christopher Lee is awesome... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8W2fkhfFPc |
| 04:48.03 | PProvost | LOL that is terrible |
| 04:49.03 | WobWork | Anyone who can do that and hold a straight face, is a brilliant actor =P |
| 05:00.18 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 04f0379 Database/Tailoring.lua: [+1 commit] Removed F.WORLD_DROP from some recipes and instead added F.RAID. |
| 05:01.29 | quiescens | raid, world drop, same difference |
| 05:10.42 | Torhal | quiescens: o.O |
| 05:11.28 | quiescens | O.o |
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| 05:21.38 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03s8095324 * r287 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add Icecrown Citadel |
| 05:24.52 | WobWork | Torhal, quiescens: O.O |
| 05:25.02 | quiescens | wobwork: o.o |
| 05:25.08 | Torhal | WobWork: Woor? |
| 05:25.26 | WobWork | Torhal, quiescens: >.< |
| 05:25.38 | Torhal | WobWork: <.> |
| 05:25.59 | WobWork | wall eyed? =P |
| 05:26.06 | Torhal | I call that "pain" |
| 05:28.06 | Thrae | What happens if you hit an ability still cooling down in a /castsequence? Does it stop until that ability is ready? |
| 05:28.17 | quiescens | yes |
| 05:28.39 | quiescens | i think castsequence stops at anything that fails to cast for whatever reason |
| 05:28.52 | Thrae | Hmmm |
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| 05:29.46 | Thrae | But it'll still reset, right? |
| 05:30.16 | quiescens | it'll reset based on your reset conditions |
| 05:30.33 | quiescens | but remember that a reset time is time since the macro was last activated |
| 05:30.44 | quiescens | not the time since the last spell was successfully cast |
| 05:30.47 | Thrae | Right |
| 05:31.43 | Thrae | So I have /castsequence reset=7/target/combat Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Mangle (Bear)(), Enrage, Mangle (Bear)(). Usually this works but sometimes I need to manually Mangle. |
| 05:32.29 | quiescens | I would imagine it gets stuck at enrage |
| 05:32.53 | quiescens | and then you would have to wait 7 seconds without pressing it at all in order for it to reset |
| 05:33.27 | Thrae | I thought it was 7 seconds no matter what part of the sequence its in? |
| 05:33.34 | quiescens | no |
| 05:33.40 | quiescens | its 7 seconds since you last used it |
| 05:33.49 | quiescens | not 7 seconds since you first used it |
| 05:33.56 | WobWork | really? |
| 05:33.56 | WobWork | hm |
| 05:34.03 | WobWork | I had the same impression Thrae did |
| 05:35.27 | quiescens | 7 seconds since you last used the macro, regardless of whether it was successful last time |
| 05:35.42 | quiescens | so if you keep pressing that, when its stuck at enrage, it will just stay stuck at enrage forever |
| 05:36.09 | WobWork | "Note that this is not the time since the first spell in the sequence was cast, but rather the time since the macro was last called (to cast any of the spells in the sequence). This is a very important distinction because it means you cannot use a reset timer to account for cooldown." |
| 05:36.31 | quiescens | wobwork: o.o |
| 05:36.47 | WobWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_a_macro#Sequencing_spells_and_items |
| 05:36.54 | WobWork | I'm agreeing =P |
| 05:37.16 | quiescens | o.O |
| 05:37.38 | WobWork | O.o |
| 05:41.58 | Thrae | WobWork: Hmmm you have a Bear, any ideas on more spammable Enrage? |
| 05:42.48 | WobWork | I don't usually spam it =\ |
| 05:42.52 | Thrae | Maybe if I go back to a macro for Swipe and Lacerate too that includes Enrage... |
| 05:42.56 | WobWork | I prod it for rage, or for extra damage |
| 05:43.33 | quiescens | prod the angry bair |
| 05:45.32 | Thrae | WobWork: Most fights I don't have Rage problems so I usually have it up as much as possible (especially bosses), especially with the T10 bonus |
| 05:45.50 | WobWork | I keep it for pugs |
| 05:46.04 | WobWork | in case they go fullbore before I get some rage to swipe |
| 05:46.09 | WobWork | which they often do |
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| 05:49.44 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03s8095324 * r273 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot (2 files in 2 directories): Add Icecrown Citadel.Lord Marrowgar.10 Man Items |
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| 06:09.11 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03s8095324 * r289 Set_Instances_WotLK.lua: Fix Bugs. |
| 06:10.19 | quiescens | you could probably technically make a macro do that sort of thing by doing um |
| 06:10.30 | quiescens | fancy manipulations of the actionbar |
| 06:10.38 | quiescens | lol |
| 06:11.00 | quiescens | it would probably be really messy and unreliable though |
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| 07:22.01 | orionshock | what's the current ptr rev? |
| 07:22.05 | orionshock | ~ptr |
| 07:22.06 | purl | ptr is probably pointer |
| 07:22.30 | nevcairiel | 11623 |
| 07:26.44 | orionshock | anyone else find it odd that blizzard is finally adding auctioneer to the default interface (or part of it) |
| 07:27.29 | nevcairiel | just small parts |
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| 07:30.42 | Shadowed | All they really did was make it easier to post, it's not really an Auctioneer only thing |
| 07:31.16 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.2-1.0.2-1-g83f283d / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Beginning of transition to use client-passed AddOn name and table. Converted all file encodings to UTF-8. |
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| 07:37.16 | orionshock | (in my experience) features are often referred to by the first addon or oldest addon in use that implemented it :) |
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| 07:47.29 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libnameplate-1-0/. LibNameplate-1.0. Cyprias (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 07:47.46 | Cyprias | nice |
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| 07:57.33 | Arrowmaster | LibNameplate-1.0 also links GUID's with nameplates allowing you to differentiate nameplates with the same name. |
| 07:57.37 | Arrowmaster | i call bullshit |
| 08:00.07 | SunTsu | So, no need to differentiate between nameplate for pet "paul" from the nameplate for player "paul" or boss "paul"? |
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| 08:01.23 | orionshock | Arrowmaster, it could be scanning the unit on mouseover and updating indexes on the name plate frame accordingly.. |
| 08:01.38 | orionshock | tho that would be more broken magic than useful |
| 08:01.45 | Arrowmaster | except the nameplate frames are reused on every OnUpdate i think |
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| 08:02.28 | Arrowmaster | also who the fuck is s8095324, i feel im going to have to smack somebody |
| 08:03.11 | Torhal | Ooh. I didn't notice the "Fix bugs." commit. |
| 08:03.15 | Torhal | Particularly nasty. |
| 08:03.48 | Arrowmaster | well the libpt commits are broken, they didnt make any changes at all to the data file so they will be erased the next time somebody runs the dataminer |
| 08:04.17 | Arrowmaster | and i thought there was still some debate going on about the format for loot tables |
| 08:05.10 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.27 | Arrowmaster | which with nameplates can happen a lot |
| 08:05.41 | orionshock | yep |
| 08:06.20 | orionshock | Cyprias, your detection of if a frame is a nameplate is faulty, there are nameplate addons out there that will / can change the default texture your looking for |
| 08:06.47 | Cyprias | true, it only works for the default nameplates right now |
| 08:07.32 | orionshock | instead should check for the parent being the world frame. or just itterate the world frame children and add a marker index |
| 08:08.00 | Cyprias | market index? |
| 08:08.15 | orionshock | like frame.isNameplate = true |
| 08:08.21 | Arrowmaster | why is your 'library' embedding Ace3 |
| 08:08.28 | orionshock | that way when you check it checks for that value on the frame |
| 08:08.38 | orionshock | Arrowmaster, AceHook |
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| 08:09.05 | Arrowmaster | better to just manually hook for a library |
| 08:09.21 | Torhal | Libraries should be as low-level as possible, |
| 08:09.31 | Cyprias | yeah I wasn't sure about that. |
| 08:09.36 | orionshock | Arrowmaster, ever think about writing a "general guide" on how to write new libs? |
| 08:09.40 | Torhal | Unless there is absolute NEED to use another library - which, for hooking, there isn't. |
| 08:10.05 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: no because anybody that would read a guide is probably better of getting a lot more experience before attempting it |
| 08:10.16 | Arrowmaster | plus i dont write |
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| 08:11.16 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r190 SimpleMD.lua: -adjust a comment to be more accurate about program flow |
| 08:11.46 | orionshock | Cyprias, also local upvalues, it's usually a leading _ most methods seen don't make a distinction between the global and upvalue |
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| 08:29.43 | mitch0 | ulic ? |
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| 08:36.12 | orionshock | mitch0, not usually at this time |
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| 10:11.44 | asmodai | Android users, open beta of Swype @ www.swype.com |
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| 10:38.52 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 073.3.3 * 1.3.7-5-g0161bb1 / (30 files in 3 directories): [new, +5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 10:38.54 | Repo | 0161bb1: Remove some checks that caused POIs to be misaligned. |
| 10:38.59 | Repo | 93dd38e: Moved the Options Button out of the way of the Track Checkbox. |
| 10:39.01 | Repo | 54b3332: Fix alignment of the detail frame in minimized mode. |
| 10:39.02 | Repo | 2baed30: Updated Quest POI integration for 3.3.3 |
| 10:39.09 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.7-1-geb5763d Mapster.lua: [+1 commit] Use "true" instead of "Default" to be locale independent. |
| 10:44.37 | Repo | 10ora3: 03yleaf * r374 locales (2 files in 1 directory): zhTW & zhCN updated |
| 10:44.46 | Repo | 10classtimer-eclipse: 03rindy * r5 ClassTimer_Eclipse.toc: TOC interface version |
| 10:49.13 | Repo | 10classtimer-eclipse: 03rindy 04v1.0 relase * r6 : Tagging as release |
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| 11:06.46 | sztanphet | @describe classtimer-eclipse |
| 11:06.48 | Repo | sztanphet: http://www.wowace.com/addons/classtimer-eclipse/. ClassTimer Eclipse. Displays the internal cooldown of Eclipse as a ClassTimer bar |
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| 11:16.55 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03s8095324 * r276 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot (2 files in 2 directories): Update The Lower Spire of Icecrown Citadel Items |
| 11:17.35 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03s8095324 * r290 Set_Instances_WotLK.lua: Update Icecrown Citadel Items |
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| 11:26.02 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03s8095324 * r727 Frozen_Halls/Locales (8 files in 1 directory): Update Bronjahm name |
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| 11:49.57 | Gagorian | Cyprias: http://paste.wowace.com/1791/ you should probably check at least combatByColor (should be defined in the file before it's called) and frame |
| 11:50.58 | Cyprias | ah, it was lower down the file. Good find |
| 11:52.53 | Gagorian | The line 652 global is an underscore, no clue why the pastey seems to have removed it |
| 11:53.10 | Gagorian | Or then _ |
| 11:53.19 | Gagorian | err.. yeah it's under the red box for me |
| 11:54.46 | Gagorian | I recommend http://www.wowace.com/addons/findglobals/ and bind it to a hotkey in your texteditor |
| 11:56.00 | Cyprias | Not sure if I can bind hotkeys in the editor. I'm using SciTE |
| 11:56.10 | Cyprias | I'll checkout the link though |
| 11:57.10 | haste | SciTE most likely allows that just fine |
| 11:57.18 | haste | especially as it uses Lua for extensions |
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| 12:03.55 | TNSe| | zomgevilnesszomg |
| 12:09.29 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r914 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 12:09.31 | Repo | AceDB-3.0: Remove empty sections on logout, keeping the SV clean of more useless informations. |
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| 12:11.00 | nevcairiel | wee, less useless metadata saved |
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| 12:14.11 | Fisker | [13:13:09][Cihaeru] whispers: hey o.O |
| 12:14.11 | Fisker | [13:13:12][Cihaeru] whispers: Sorry to bother you ,but do you wish to buy some gold ? we will give you a nice bonus depending on how much you would like to buy:) |
| 12:14.13 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
| 12:14.36 | nevcairiel | buy it, now! |
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| 12:21.55 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.2-1.0.2-2-gf5acab6 Panel.lua: [+1 commit] Replaced manually-created list_font with GameFontWhiteSmall - fixes issue with Chinese and probably others. |
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| 13:03.52 | Repo | 10classtimer-eclipse: 03rindy 04v1.0 release * r7 : Hopefully without typos this time |
| 13:13.11 | Adirelle|work | ok, so I used a hacky workaround for unit frame menus |
| 13:13.41 | Adirelle|work | it sudddenly stopped working this morning though there wasn't any update, either to blizzard or my code |
| 13:14.18 | mitch0 | it's nev's fault |
| 13:14.31 | nevcairiel | clearly |
| 13:14.52 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1375 Data/Priest.lua: |
| 13:14.54 | Repo | - Corrected error with PW:S average Divine Aegis calculation |
| 13:15.47 | Adirelle|work | I was doing something like this : 1) anchor PlayerFrame to my frame, 2) SetAttribute('*type2', 'click') 3) SetAttribute('*clickbutton2', PlayerFrame) |
| 13:15.48 | mitch0 | "<Repo> Ace3: Nevcairiel * r6666 Ace3/Core.lua: Break Adirelle's hack" |
| 13:16.18 | Adirelle|work | now it works with shift-rightbutton, but not bare rightbutton |
| 13:16.45 | Adirelle|work | dumping modified type on preclick lists "menu" |
| 13:17.07 | Adirelle|work | so I hooked "onattributechanged" to see who is changing the "type2" attribute and ... nothing |
| 13:17.48 | Adirelle|work | er... |
| 13:18.20 | Adirelle|work | fuck |
| 13:18.21 | Adirelle|work | got it |
| 13:19.24 | Adirelle|work | tried click2cast the other day, and forgot to remove it |
| 13:19.43 | Adirelle|work | and by default it defines a special binding on rightbutton that always map it to "menu" |
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| 13:42.56 | orionshock | sob, latest ptr patch has same glitch with file permissions on linux as a few patches ago did... fubaring everything |
| 13:44.14 | SunTsu | orionshock: -v, please |
| 13:44.22 | Torhal | It should only affect the main folder. Just chmod 755 it. |
| 13:45.07 | orionshock | well everytime it crashes it fubars the permissions |
| 13:45.27 | Torhal | Just don't use the launcher. |
| 13:45.48 | orionshock | client not launcher :P |
| 13:45.55 | Torhal | Ick |
| 13:46.15 | orionshock | yeah, will ts later tho.. |
| 13:46.23 | orionshock | sleep now |
| 13:48.59 | nevcairiel | the latest ptr patch is severly broken anyway |
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| 14:00.45 | nevcairiel | wut |
| 14:01.19 | Elkano | wuut wut? |
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| 14:12.44 | Chosi | mew |
| 14:13.02 | Chosi | u wonder if there's a way to expand the wow addon layer to another screen |
| 14:13.08 | Chosi | without expanding the game itself |
| 14:13.09 | Chosi | :S |
| 14:13.20 | sztanpet | wot |
| 14:13.26 | Chosi | so i can have like...unitframes, recount and stuff on another monitor :D |
| 14:13.33 | sztanpet | oh sure you can |
| 14:13.41 | Chosi | and only play on the main one |
| 14:13.44 | sztanpet | you just set the viewport so |
| 14:13.46 | koaschten | thats what the viewport stuff is for |
| 14:13.57 | sztanpet | @describe viewporter |
| 14:13.58 | koaschten | it limits the rendered area |
| 14:13.58 | Repo | sztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/addons/viewporter/. Viewporter. Very basic viewport setter |
| 14:14.10 | Chosi | ah didn't think about viewport stuff |
| 14:14.11 | Chosi | nice |
| 14:14.12 | Chosi | :) |
| 14:15.04 | Chosi | thanks a lot |
| 14:15.16 | Chosi | i wonder if there will be problems with different resolutions |
| 14:16.08 | sztanpet | probably |
| 14:16.12 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1376 Data (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:16.14 | Repo | - Focused Power now seems to increase Glyph of PW:S heals on targets other than yourself as well |
| 14:16.21 | sztanpet | i never managed to make wow run on 2 monitors |
| 14:17.23 | olafski | why would you want unitframes on another monitor btw? ;) I can understand recount, but unitframes are generally important |
| 14:17.29 | Chosi | rogue. |
| 14:17.33 | Chosi | no need for unit frames :) |
| 14:17.34 | koaschten | you need spanning on the windows desktop and have wow think its 1 screen |
| 14:17.36 | koaschten | basically |
| 14:17.39 | pentium166 | the problem is that it scales up the in-world combat text and that isn't affected by viewport size |
| 14:17.44 | olafski | I usually still want unitframes on my rogue |
| 14:18.04 | koaschten | player, target, focus |
| 14:18.05 | Chosi | i dunno what i would need them for, well i needed them last night @ blood queen |
| 14:18.08 | koaschten | thats all you need as a rogue |
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| 14:18.15 | olafski | I like to know what's going on |
| 14:18.22 | olafski | then again I don't really like playing a pure dps class to begin with |
| 14:18.26 | Chosi | you can't do anything about it anyways |
| 14:18.30 | Chosi | :) |
| 14:18.35 | Chosi | if they die, they die |
| 14:18.48 | Chosi | oh well you could yell "THAT PRIEST IS DEAD" |
| 14:18.50 | Chosi | :> |
| 14:18.50 | olafski | if the healer is getting attacked I could stun the mob that attacks them :P |
| 14:19.00 | olafski | or if I see an incoming wipe I could vanish.. :) |
| 14:19.59 | sztanpet | firendly nameplates make that easier imo, they show aggro too its quite awesome |
| 14:20.09 | quiescens | be honest, that's the real reason you want it |
| 14:20.10 | olafski | oh.. I have those disabled, so much clutter :( |
| 14:20.18 | quiescens | to see people dying and vanish |
| 14:20.23 | sztanpet | in a raid your probably right |
| 14:20.23 | olafski | I've always shown unitframes on all my chars.. both party and raid |
| 14:20.38 | olafski | to be honest I've never had vanish save me from wiping in a group so far quiescens ;) |
| 14:20.48 | quiescens | all that "i might be able to help" is just what you say to feel good about it |
| 14:21.17 | olafski | my rogue is only lvl 73 I think.. or 72.. I tend to use vanish in the first couple of seconds of a fight because I'm getting aggro by then :/ |
| 14:21.29 | Chosi | you're doing it wrong |
| 14:21.32 | Chosi | :) |
| 14:21.40 | olafski | obviously |
| 14:21.42 | olafski | or the tanks are |
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| 14:22.09 | quiescens | its okay, you get tricks of the trade in a couple levels |
| 14:22.09 | olafski | if I ever get this char to 80 it's likely that I will abandon it that very same day anyway :) |
| 14:22.17 | olafski | yeah, that'll be nice :) |
| 14:22.24 | quiescens | then you can be like all the other rogues and callously pull things onto the group |
| 14:22.45 | olafski | shame I have to wait until 80 for fan of knives |
| 14:22.52 | olafski | while druids get their cat aoe ability at 71 :( |
| 14:24.00 | pentium166 | druids don't get their cat "my damage doesn't suck" ability until 80 though |
| 14:24.12 | olafski | :P |
| 14:24.17 | olafski | I wouldn't know about that.. leveled as a tank |
| 14:24.27 | olafski | well, tank/healer.. still am |
| 14:24.50 | Megalon | which ability would be that pentium166? |
| 14:25.30 | Megalon | though I don't know if nourish helps your dps |
| 14:25.43 | olafski | I thought savage roar seemed like a nice boost |
| 14:25.48 | olafski | that's at 75 though |
| 14:25.51 | quiescens | I think they're just being facetious |
| 14:25.59 | olafski | I guess he's saying their damage just sucks until 80 |
| 14:26.06 | olafski | though I don't really see why it would suddenly change at 80 |
| 14:26.18 | Megalon | in quest greens at 79 |
| 14:26.18 | olafski | apart from gear improvements, which all classes get |
| 14:26.23 | Megalon | compared to ic25 gear at 80 |
| 14:26.30 | Megalon | ! |
| 14:26.51 | Megalon | he probably meant sr yea |
| 14:27.29 | pentium166 | oh, i did mean savage roar |
| 14:28.34 | olafski | :) |
| 14:28.42 | pentium166 | it doesn't really make a difference while soloing because you either refresh SR or use FB and everything's dead after a couple mangles in the face anway |
| 14:29.30 | olafski | I find rip a lot better than FB for now.. seems FB hardly does more damage than mangle, I guess if I get more armor penetration that'll be different though |
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| 14:38.34 | koaschten | is it just me or am i amazed by how Sandra Bullock can win the prize for the best and the worst role within 24h? |
| 14:39.25 | SunTsu | koaschten: no, and she rocks, because she received them both personally |
| 14:39.36 | SunTsu | takes a lot of courage |
| 14:39.42 | koaschten | definitly |
| 14:39.52 | koaschten | would have been more awesome if it was for the same role :D |
| 14:42.04 | SunTsu | yeah, that's what I thought immediatly |
| 14:42.25 | koaschten | i gotta admit, i didnt know she was married to Jesse james... |
| 14:43.06 | SunTsu | I didn't know either - and the only Jesse James I know would be way too old to be married to him |
| 14:43.23 | nevcairiel | Oh hey, mediamarkt has the AV-Receiver i want for 299 right now, thats currently 200 less then what amazon wants o.O |
| 14:43.52 | koaschten | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_G._James |
| 14:44.16 | koaschten | nevcairiel a pity you cant make use of the ... buy 1 500+ item get one 100- for free |
| 14:44.32 | nevcairiel | not buying a receiver for over 500 =P |
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| 14:44.35 | koaschten | ;) |
| 14:44.55 | nevcairiel | but, i'm driving to MM now and buying that sucker |
| 14:44.57 | nevcairiel | laters |
| 14:45.13 | wink | why a receiver anyway? |
| 14:45.14 | Megalon | get ready to be blöd |
| 14:45.28 | Megalon | he needs one exclusively for adult video |
| 14:45.33 | Megalon | therefor: av-reciever |
| 14:45.33 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 14:47.54 | nevcairiel | wink: need something to play sound for my homecinema from, don't i! |
| 14:48.15 | wink | don't techconfuse me |
| 14:48.23 | wink | I'm not watching TV, mine has SCART |
| 14:48.34 | wink | that's how much I know about HiFi stuff :P |
| 14:48.53 | wink | if my TV was a person, he'd legally drink soon |
| 14:48.56 | koaschten | at least you are not in for notebook shopping currently :( |
| 14:49.04 | wink | no, gladly not |
| 14:49.07 | nevcairiel | technically i would be, but i have no money |
| 14:49.08 | koaschten | thats a total mess if you want certain features for a fixed budget |
| 14:49.10 | wink | waiting for my replacement battery |
| 14:49.20 | nevcairiel | i pushed notebook to 2011 |
| 14:49.24 | nevcairiel | mine has to hold until then |
| 14:49.29 | wink | gaming laptop? gaming capable or just work? |
| 14:49.30 | koaschten | i pushed it for too long |
| 14:49.35 | koaschten | mine broke 2 weeks ago |
| 14:49.37 | wink | mine's from 2004 :D |
| 14:49.47 | koaschten | after 5 years |
| 14:49.50 | nevcairiel | mine is from 2005, but it still works |
| 14:49.53 | Megalon | hm, broke laptop |
| 14:50.13 | koaschten | nevcairiel power circuit broke, had humming twitching coils for month now |
| 14:50.20 | nevcairiel | ouch |
| 14:50.25 | koaschten | just failed booting one day |
| 14:50.30 | koaschten | i shouldnt have powered it off ;) |
| 14:50.36 | harl | http://www.misterhonk.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dRMby.png |
| 14:50.38 | koaschten | had 4 weeks uptime at that point |
| 14:51.26 | wink | harl: awesome |
| 14:51.30 | koaschten | and now i am trying to get my fingers onto something with dualcore, 2gb+ and a somewhat gaming capable gpu with 720p capable display |
| 14:51.45 | koaschten | on a limited budget obviously >:( |
| 14:52.08 | nevcairiel | anyway off to the train |
| 14:52.15 | harl | gl |
| 14:52.15 | Megalon | choochoo |
| 14:52.16 | nevcairiel | hope i can carry that 12kg thing home :P |
| 14:52.17 | koaschten | have fun, dont break your back ;) |
| 14:52.19 | sb|work | get a car imo :p |
| 14:52.31 | koaschten | saturn offers "koffer rollis" ;) |
| 14:52.42 | sb|work | for free? |
| 14:52.46 | koaschten | yep |
| 14:54.06 | wink | nevcairiel: stop living so remotely, I'd gladly give you a lift :P to the MM 500m from here |
| 14:54.08 | koaschten | i'd estimate the value at ~5eu |
| 14:54.33 | koaschten | and they seem to hand them out for any bulky stuff thats 300eu+ |
| 14:54.36 | ckknight | does anyone else think that AceGUI's EditBox and Sliders' lack of a GetText/GetValue is a massive oversight? |
| 14:54.37 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-gui-3-0-widgets/ |
| 14:54.37 | koaschten | quite a nice service |
| 14:55.29 | harl | what's the fuzz about, when its weight's just around 12 kg |
| 14:56.11 | koaschten | harl the fact that poor nevcairiel goes there by train and feet ;) |
| 14:56.13 | wink | maybe he's 1.50m and has tiny programmer hand |
| 14:56.19 | wink | *s |
| 14:57.02 | sb|work | and we still have snow/ice here! :P |
| 14:57.35 | wink | the ice stones have smelted, sb|work |
| 14:57.37 | harl | well, not here. |
| 14:57.38 | wink | at least in Munich |
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| 16:01.47 | arkanes | whats a good event to detect a talent spec change? Preferably something after its been completed |
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| 16:03.00 | Gnarfoz | !api talent |
| 16:03.01 | lua_bot | Found 31 possible matches for 'talent'. Please be more specific |
| 16:03.04 | Gnarfoz | :X |
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| 16:05.35 | profalbert | !api player_talents_changed |
| 16:05.35 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'player_talents_changed'. |
| 16:05.46 | profalbert | !api player_talents_updated |
| 16:05.47 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'player_talents_updated'. |
| 16:06.10 | profalbert | !api PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE |
| 16:06.11 | lua_bot | PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE: Fires when the player gains or spends talent points (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE) |
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| 16:06.35 | profalbert | !api GetActiveTalentGroup |
| 16:06.35 | lua_bot | GetActiveTalentGroup: Returns the index of the active talent specialization (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetActiveTalentGroup) |
| 16:06.58 | profalbert | arkanes: there you go |
| 16:07.05 | arkanes | hmm |
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| 16:07.33 | arkanes | thanks |
| 16:20.07 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03xilcoy * r436 modules/WarnFrame.lua: |
| 16:20.08 | Repo | Save warnframe location in database as requested by fyre 6 months ago |
| 16:20.10 | Repo | ticket #24 |
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| 16:21.18 | arkanes | hooray addon patched |
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| 16:41.19 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03xilcoy * r437 modules/PortraitContextMenu.lua: |
| 16:41.21 | Repo | Added hack from fyrye to enable context menu support for pitbull4 |
| 16:41.22 | Repo | Suggested 7 months ago in Ticket #22 |
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| 16:47.52 | nevcairiel | wink: turns out it was 14kg and i have to walk about 1km to the train station, carrying that thing around was no fun :) |
| 16:48.03 | wink | hehe |
| 16:48.21 | wink | but you have one! |
| 16:49.29 | nevcairiel | indeed |
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| 16:53.37 | Repo | 10avr (experimental): 03olog * r9 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Optimized drawing |
| 16:53.39 | Repo | - Rotface ooze explosion in bigwigs scene |
| 16:53.40 | Repo | - Bug fixes |
| 16:59.02 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: whatchatalkinabout? :o |
| 16:59.52 | nevcairiel | the AV Receiver i wanted, mediamarkt had it in a good offer |
| 16:59.55 | nevcairiel | but i had to carry it home :P |
| 17:00.53 | nevcairiel | ckknight: we basically added APIs as they were needed and/or requested, so yeah, widgets sometimes lack apis that would make sense |
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| 17:02.04 | quiescens | moo |
| 17:09.41 | [Ammo] | wouldn't call it a massive oversigh though |
| 17:09.49 | [Ammo] | just a 'we didn't need it yet' |
| 17:18.34 | Killmore | olog: any demo of what AVR can do yet ?! :P |
| 17:18.42 | Olog | download it |
| 17:19.32 | Gnarfoz | it's quite awesome, although I haven't tried it in a raid, yet |
| 17:19.54 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ah. good offer meaning... how much? ;p also, black or silver? :P |
| 17:20.00 | quiescens | what is an avr o.o |
| 17:20.10 | Superfly_ | to activate bigwigs scene, do you have to install bigwigs? |
| 17:20.13 | Gnarfoz | augmented virtual reality |
| 17:20.13 | [Ammo] | Augmented Virtual Reality |
| 17:20.28 | Gnarfoz | see above, repo just reported a commit to it ;) |
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| 17:20.37 | Olog | yeah, it listens to bigwigs messages so it needs that |
| 17:20.47 | [Ammo] | besides that bigwigs is teh awesome :) |
| 17:20.53 | Superfly_ | :D |
| 17:21.04 | Killmore | so to try it I need to install AVR + bigwigs ? |
| 17:21.07 | Superfly_ | thanks for the confirmation olog, can we expect other bossmods to work wit that? |
| 17:21.13 | Gnarfoz | only if you want to use the bigwigs integration stuff |
| 17:21.34 | Olog | you can draw stuff and share it with others without bigwigs |
| 17:21.54 | Olog | I doubt I'll make any modules for other boss mods |
| 17:22.04 | Superfly_ | well my question was more about like goo locations on putricide fights and stuff |
| 17:22.14 | Olog | but I'll try to get it cleaned up so that it wouldn't be too hard for someone else to do it |
| 17:22.21 | Superfly_ | cheers |
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| 17:22.29 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: 299, and black of course |
| 17:23.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that's a good offer indeed. although of course you can't use your curse points at mediamarkt :D |
| 17:23.42 | nevcairiel | nah, but can convert them to ⬠next month |
| 17:24.08 | Gnarfoz | how so? |
| 17:24.09 | wink | ~describe avr |
| 17:24.20 | Gnarfoz | wink: repo, not purl |
| 17:24.29 | wink | too late, I fired up a browser |
| 17:24.29 | Gnarfoz | @describe avr |
| 17:24.31 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/avr/. AVR. Augmented Virtual Reality. Draw and add markers in the 3d world. |
| 17:24.31 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 17:25.17 | wink | lol |
| 17:25.19 | wink | nice idea |
| 17:28.07 | Zyn | my guild has started using AVR :p |
| 17:28.11 | Zyn | I made them do it |
| 17:28.38 | Olog | for planning or boss mods? |
| 17:28.52 | Zyn | helps A LOT @ Sindragosa heroic |
| 17:28.59 | Zyn | for ice tomb positions |
| 17:31.27 | Zyn | this : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3688889/AVR.jpg |
| 17:32.27 | Olog | Stairs are just a bit annoying there |
| 17:32.55 | Zyn | I know, but when one gets a mark, just turn the camera so you look straight down |
| 17:34.10 | Zyn | light blue is for MOON mark, and dark blue is for SQUARE mark ... still, people appear colorblind and ran to the wrong spot, and bitched that you should be able to make squares in AVR :[ |
| 17:34.26 | Zyn | I solved that by writing "<-- SQUARE" next to it :P |
| 17:34.31 | wink | they played I bet |
| 17:34.34 | wink | *CS |
| 17:34.37 | Olog | make a circle with 4 segments |
| 17:34.41 | wink | *tag* *Tagh* *tag* |
| 17:35.33 | Zyn | figures, I just don't like inconsistency :P |
| 17:36.37 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r421 Options/GridIndicators.lua: Fix bad setup of new text-color indicator. |
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| 17:38.47 | Megalon | zyn: just place them all on top of each other, problem solved! |
| 17:39.53 | Zyn | if I want to give my raidleader grey hair, then yes |
| 17:39.53 | Megalon | ;O |
| 17:41.02 | Gnarfoz | I hate pixelfonts :F |
| 17:43.02 | Ackis | how the hell can ARL be causing the quest log to not update when I don't dick around with the quest log at all? :| |
| 17:43.58 | Megalon | because you dick with Fisker in your sparetime |
| 17:44.24 | koaschten | haha http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/fqPTBlJLnjQ/Energizer-USB-Battery-Charger-Software-Infects-PCs |
| 17:45.55 | Fisker | http://i48.tinypic.com/abt85c.png <-Blizzard keeps calling it MITM, and i found out why |
| 17:46.24 | Fisker | in b4 nerf Zyn |
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| 17:58.45 | Pneumatus^ | Ackis: you're to blame for that?! |
| 17:58.56 | Pneumatus^ | i was wondering what was breaking it |
| 18:02.28 | pompy | ive had that problem with not seeing the daily appear in the quuest log after i accepted gretta teh arbiters daily...but i dont think i can say its cause of arl |
| 18:02.53 | Ackis | Pneumatus^: people are saying I'm to blame, but I have no idea why/how |
| 18:02.56 | Ackis | I'm not leaking globals |
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| 18:03.00 | Ackis | I don't touch the quest log |
| 18:03.26 | Pneumatus^ | i've noticed my quest log get broken every now and again where the quest text is never displayed, no idea who's actually to blame for it though |
| 18:03.32 | Ackis | I might be touching the quest ID's tooltip but that's it, I don't even think I do that |
| 18:03.48 | Ackis | any chance you can give me your taint log? |
| 18:04.37 | Pneumatus^ | only one entry, not from ARL |
| 18:04.38 | Pneumatus^ | An action was blocked in combat because of taint from Auctionator - RaidFrame:Hide() |
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| 18:05.33 | Ackis | like there's an issue with collectinator that causes you to get booted from the game (DCed) but I have no idea why/how it happens |
| 18:06.24 | Pneumatus | im still not sure why i use ARL, ive got every pattern im ever gonna bother getting :o |
| 18:06.38 | Ackis | because you like me? |
| 18:07.06 | Pneumatus | who knows |
| 18:07.41 | Ackis | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12829753559&sid=1 |
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| 18:08.02 | Ackis | the only thing I could think of is somehow my tomtom integration is buggered and then I can just blame it on jnwhiteh |
| 18:10.55 | Megalon | http://asset.soup.io/asset/0679/8911_8fa7.jpeg |
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| 18:42.04 | Pneumatus | hmm, i can't decide what icon to use as a generic icon for non-combat pets :< |
| 18:42.31 | Pneumatus | maybe the cage icon |
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| 18:49.01 | Ackis | for a mod? |
| 18:49.04 | Ackis | or macro? |
| 18:49.17 | Pneumatus | unitframe icon |
| 18:52.25 | Pneumatus | i've gone with Interface\\Icons\\INV_Box_PetCarrier_01 |
| 18:52.47 | Ackis | I think that's what I used for my macro, I had custom icons drawn for Collectinator however |
| 18:52.57 | Ackis | (I wonder if I can use that as a tax write off?) |
| 18:53.00 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 18:53.15 | Pneumatus | well, i just realised that simpleunitframes doesn't have an icon for non-combat pet or gas cloud |
| 18:53.38 | Ackis | I need a gas cloud icon for RL |
| 18:53.58 | Pneumatus | i've used the Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Nature_AbolishMagic |
| 18:54.01 | Pneumatus | aka druid Wrath |
| 18:54.02 | Pneumatus | wrc |
| 18:54.04 | Pneumatus | *etc |
| 18:54.10 | Pneumatus | although |
| 18:54.15 | Pneumatus | hmm, mote of air might be better |
| 18:54.37 | Pneumatus | yes, mote of air! |
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| 19:21.21 | sb|work | lf druid/pally healers icc25, horde eu :p |
| 19:23.41 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps * r96 / (3 files in 1 directory): Add slash command /castbars to open configuration panel. |
| 19:23.43 | Repo | Remove two unused variables. |
| 19:23.44 | Repo | Use latest tag on LibStub/CallbackHandler-1.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets. |
| 19:24.10 | Pneumatus | i need another LK25 kill :< |
| 19:25.23 | Pneumatus | and, who the hell let paladins in world top 20 healers on LK25 :< |
| 19:25.44 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps 042.38 * r97 : Tagging as 2.38 |
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| 19:35.37 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r422 modules/StatusVehicle.lua: Check if owner has vehicle UI as well |
| 19:35.39 | Repo | Return owner name if the actual vehicle, otherwise "vehicle" |
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| 19:53.04 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1377 / (7 files in 2 directories): - Fixed Shiv poison proc chance |
| 19:53.06 | Repo | - Ambush, Garrote and Shiv apparently cannot be dodged or parried |
| 19:53.07 | Repo | - Lethality also applies to Riposte |
| 19:53.08 | Repo | - Added metagem crit bonus to Frostbrand and Flametongue |
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| 20:22.42 | ckknight | btw, if any of you don't know about SC2Mapster, we have an IRC channel at #sc2mapster. For now, it's mostly a place to hang out and talk about SC2 and win against Shirik in 1v1s. So feel free to come join us whether you're a map enthusiast or otherwise. |
| 20:41.43 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: do you offer complimentary beta invites? :p |
| 20:41.53 | ckknight | sadly, no, not currently |
| 20:42.37 | sb|work | yea giev sc2 beta :/ |
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| 20:46.48 | ckknight | if we had extra, they'd go to community members based on who we feel deserved them most |
| 20:47.35 | sb|work | so, fisker, right? |
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| 20:48.23 | Gnarfoz | he's got his share already, for whatever reason |
| 20:48.25 | ckknight | sb|work: Fisker already has one |
| 20:48.50 | sb|work | *sigh*! |
| 20:48.54 | ckknight | and actually I'd probably give it to whoever was most willing to help with sc2mapster in some way |
| 20:49.18 | Gnarfoz | do you still have hope for that as a mapping site, actually? |
| 20:49.36 | ckknight | it's a site for map developers and enthusiasts |
| 20:49.52 | ckknight | not as a map distribution site |
| 20:49.58 | Gnarfoz | didn't Blizzard announce some kind of tied-into-bnet microtransaction marketplace that would probably hog 90% of what's going on with maps |
| 20:50.01 | Gnarfoz | hmm ok |
| 20:50.09 | Gnarfoz | I thought it was supposed to be a distribution site^_^ |
| 20:50.11 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r423 modules/StatusClassColor.lua: Remove vehicled units from "charmed" status. |
| 20:50.27 | nevcairiel | so its basically just a forum and a irc channel? =P |
| 20:50.30 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: that was part of the idea initially, but now we're just focusing on developers |
| 20:50.32 | ckknight | nevcairiel: and a wiki |
| 20:50.39 | ckknight | http://kb.sc2mapster.com/sc2-api/ |
| 20:50.46 | Gnarfoz | evul sc2 hax0rz |
| 20:51.06 | nevcairiel | haha, you documented boolean logic |
| 20:51.27 | nevcairiel | you want to teach non-programmers sc2 programming, or what? :P |
| 20:51.29 | ckknight | nevcairiel: that was mostly a test to check if the red/blue links on the wiki were working properly |
| 20:51.54 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yea, basically someone who hasn't attended any programming courses but was willing to learn should be able to. |
| 20:52.43 | orionshock | looks like it's all in C |
| 20:52.50 | ckknight | that's Galaxy, not C |
| 20:52.52 | ckknight | it's C-like |
| 20:53.02 | nevcairiel | wonder why they didnt just go with Lua |
| 20:53.17 | nevcairiel | but guess different teams and all |
| 20:53.21 | ckknight | nevcairiel: different teams, yea |
| 20:53.25 | ckknight | also, Galaxy has multithreading |
| 20:53.29 | ckknight | each trigger occurs in its own thread |
| 20:53.35 | wink | still a bit silly |
| 20:53.52 | ckknight | oh yea, if I were to do it, it'd be in Lua |
| 20:54.00 | ckknight | still, the ability to define structs and all is kinda nice |
| 20:54.16 | wink | let me guess, there's also pointers? |
| 20:54.26 | wink | structs aren't good per se :P |
| 20:54.28 | ckknight | Hello World: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/199-how-to-load-a-map/ |
| 20:54.35 | ckknight | yes, there's pointers, but they seem pretty limited |
| 20:54.46 | wink | HOLY SHIT |
| 20:54.55 | wink | what mad javascript is that |
| 20:55.00 | wink | when I mouse over the right image |
| 20:55.04 | wink | and it zooms |
| 20:55.10 | wink | and when I move my mouse it unzooms |
| 20:55.13 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:55.19 | wink | depending on mousepointer position? |
| 20:55.20 | wink | wtf |
| 20:55.21 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:55.23 | durcyn | lightbox hover, how godamn obnoxious. |
| 20:55.44 | wink | that makes my head spin :( |
| 20:55.59 | Gnarfoz | noscript :< |
| 20:56.08 | wink | it's especially fail because I wanted to move the image |
| 20:56.12 | wink | so it fits on the screen |
| 20:56.21 | wink | instead it zooms and still shows only the right 80% :P |
| 20:56.34 | nevcairiel | hehe yeah, its only being displayed as long as your mouse is ov er the small img |
| 20:56.47 | ckknight | just click |
| 20:56.49 | ckknight | see it full-screen |
| 20:56.53 | wink | and positioning is totally random |
| 20:57.01 | Gnarfoz | it is 80% outside the viewport (downward) for me, too ^^ |
| 20:57.11 | nevcairiel | clicking should open a real lightbox, and not go to the pic url, umho |
| 20:57.19 | nevcairiel | imho* |
| 20:57.19 | Gnarfoz | what nev said |
| 20:57.20 | wink | yea |
| 20:57.23 | Gnarfoz | that, and remove the hovering thing |
| 20:57.24 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:57.43 | durcyn | it also just sits there when you scroll off of it with the mousewheel |
| 20:57.48 | Gnarfoz | (same applies to wowace and cf, tbh) |
| 20:58.05 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: yea, it's all the same code |
| 20:58.06 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:58.14 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware |
| 20:58.34 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh my, floor tiles against Erdstrahlen :D |
| 20:58.39 | Gnarfoz | http://www.natco-kork.de/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=11 |
| 20:58.53 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 20:58.58 | wink | ckknight: http://kb.sc2mapster.com/sc2-api/types/int/ <- sure it doesn't have +0 and -0? |
| 20:59.18 | ckknight | wink: I mentioned that to vjeux (he's been documenting) and he didn't know how to test it |
| 20:59.27 | wink | yeah no clue either |
| 20:59.50 | nevcairiel | btw ckk while you're there, can has gift certs? :) |
| 20:59.51 | wink | go look up c++ specs I guess :P |
| 21:00.05 | ckknight | wink: it differs from C++ |
| 21:00.10 | ckknight | C++ only has 0 |
| 21:00.27 | wink | mhm, really? |
| 21:00.31 | wink | where'd I get that from then? |
| 21:00.53 | ckknight | floating point numbers have positive and negative 0 |
| 21:01.05 | ckknight | fun note: Galaxy doesn't have floating point numbers |
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| 21:01.09 | ckknight | just fixed-point |
| 21:01.14 | wink | see, your javascript made me totally dizzy in my poor head |
| 21:01.47 | ckknight | now whose fault is that? |
| 21:01.54 | wink | JS |
| 21:01.56 | wink | always JS |
| 21:02.12 | wink | ever tried to do WSH stuff? |
| 21:02.12 | ckknight | hehe |
| 21:02.19 | wink | it makes real men cry |
| 21:02.24 | ckknight | no thank you. |
| 21:02.40 | wink | but no floats.. is interesting |
| 21:02.48 | wink | I've never even heard of thisgalaxy thing |
| 21:02.59 | wink | don't tell me they invented it |
| 21:03.03 | ckknight | they did. |
| 21:03.05 | ckknight | for SC2 |
| 21:03.13 | ckknight | good note, though: it's better than JASS |
| 21:03.15 | ckknight | apparently. |
| 21:03.18 | wink | JASS? |
| 21:03.21 | Megalon | WC3 |
| 21:03.23 | ckknight | it was used in WC3 |
| 21:03.34 | Megalon | and you know |
| 21:03.34 | wink | still, they should've stuck to lua |
| 21:03.37 | Megalon | you can't spell JASS |
| 21:03.39 | Megalon | without ass |
| 21:03.45 | sb|work | haha you said ass! |
| 21:03.52 | wink | there's not many reasons to invent a new language |
| 21:04.09 | wink | least of all using it for a game |
| 21:05.02 | ckknight | wink: the WoW and SC teams are completely separate |
| 21:05.10 | Megalon | yea, but who knows when that decision was made |
| 21:05.11 | wink | it's the same company |
| 21:05.21 | ckknight | wink: yea, but they don't talk. |
| 21:05.26 | wink | lol |
| 21:05.26 | Megalon | and yet there are people that have never met ;p |
| 21:05.35 | wink | it's not about the people |
| 21:05.54 | wink | it's just sad |
| 21:06.05 | wink | and I know, they probably had their reasons |
| 21:06.10 | wink | probably even some valid ones |
| 21:06.22 | wink | but why not use a language that people already use? |
| 21:06.34 | wink | or at least.. know a bit |
| 21:06.43 | wink | wowapi is also weird lua, but it's still lua |
| 21:06.44 | Kaelten | wink: I still like to imagine that it's an evolution based thing, but who knows |
| 21:06.57 | wink | Kaelten: evolution? |
| 21:07.26 | Kaelten | ya as in they started with something similar to what those teams used before, and it evolved into what we're using now |
| 21:07.35 | Megalon | i wonder which language they'll invent for their next lost vikings game! |
| 21:07.47 | wink | Megalon: they'll use ook? |
| 21:07.53 | wink | Ook! |
| 21:08.01 | Megalon | i fear so |
| 21:08.20 | wink | Ook. OOk. |
| 21:08.35 | Megalon | lets not get into hello world! |
| 21:09.02 | wink | that's more than a line of irc can handle |
| 21:09.15 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r424 Options/GridDefaults.lua: Add vehicle status to text-down and text-down-color |
| 21:09.19 | wink | anyway, we'll see |
| 21:09.26 | wink | how much the stuff will be adopted |
| 21:09.47 | Megalon | I'll just buy it |
| 21:09.55 | Megalon | and then wait for the first team micro arena maps |
| 21:09.57 | Megalon | ;O |
| 21:10.03 | wink | microwhat? |
| 21:10.10 | wink | think I haven't played SC for 10 years |
| 21:10.15 | wink | or 8, at least |
| 21:10.35 | Megalon | team battles |
| 21:10.44 | Megalon | you have pools of units |
| 21:10.57 | ckknight | Megalon: the trick is to write one yourself. |
| 21:11.04 | Megalon | eg 8zergs, or 4r+1bat, etc. |
| 21:11.13 | Megalon | just predefined groups you can spawn |
| 21:11.22 | Megalon | if all die, you have to wait a few seconds |
| 21:11.30 | Megalon | with hero units |
| 21:11.40 | Megalon | 2-3 tiers of groups etc |
| 21:12.08 | Megalon | just like dota |
| 21:12.10 | Megalon | but fun :P |
| 21:16.15 | wink | didn't like the one game of dota I played |
| 21:18.39 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r425 GridRoster.lua: GetOwnerUnitByUnit |
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| 21:30.23 | orionshock | grr, blizzard needs to rebase their PTR client from the live client.. they have alot of changes they fubared and missed |
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| 21:50.04 | Pneumatus | anyone know how to download alphas with cc4 on mac? |
| 21:52.55 | Fisker | rightclick? |
| 21:53.16 | Pneumatus | on investigation, it looks like its not supported |
| 21:53.41 | Pneumatus | according the the project page, anyway |
| 21:54.18 | Fisker | >:O |
| 22:03.19 | Kalroth | http://www.sadtrombone.com/ its the fisker sound |
| 22:11.05 | Pneumatus | bigwigs totally needs to play that on a wipe |
| 22:12.07 | steev | i thought there was one that played the sound from price is right |
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| 22:29.06 | Repo | 10incubator2: 03Morgalm * r16 Modules/Incubator2_ICC/ICC.lua: Incubator2 |
| 22:29.08 | Repo | -fix Sindragosa uid |
| 22:32.04 | Killmore | Pneumatus: no, the should use this sound on a wipe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn27GEzEsU8 :P |
| 22:33.28 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm 04v3.5 * r72 : Tagging as v3.5 |
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| 22:50.30 | Kemayo | ckknight: Points dead for longer than normal this month? |
| 22:51.12 | ckknight | yea, I guess so |
| 22:51.16 | ckknight | I'm not sure the deal |
| 22:53.05 | Kemayo | I was about to buy some speakers, so I wondered. :) |
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| 23:05.09 | Primer | All addons that implement unit frames do so in a generic way? Meaning, I could write a "unit frame addon", which should work for PitBull, Grid, Xperl, and the likes? |
| 23:05.27 | Primer | as well as the default UI, of course |
| 23:05.53 | haste | I totally don't get your question! |
| 23:06.47 | Primer | Perhaps it may be obvious to those who have been doing this for a while |
| 23:07.00 | Gnarfoz | I've not written a unitframe addon and I have no clue what you're trying to say ;> |
| 23:07.16 | Primer | sigh |
| 23:07.48 | Primer | s/"unit frame addon"/"an addon that interfaces with unit frames"/ |
| 23:07.57 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 23:08.17 | Primer | hooks to unit frame events |
| 23:08.20 | Gnarfoz | how about instead of that, you read addon code? |
| 23:08.45 | Primer | reading addon code is what got me here in the first place |
| 23:08.48 | Gnarfoz | addons don't "interface with unit frames" |
| 23:08.50 | profalbert | All unit-frames are derived from a unitframe-template |
| 23:08.53 | Gnarfoz | they provide unitframes |
| 23:09.07 | Primer | it seems there's a million ways of doing things |
| 23:09.10 | Gnarfoz | if you don't have an addon that does it, you don't have unitframes |
| 23:09.23 | profalbert | maybe look at clique, it can list all unit-frames from all addons (including the default-interface) |
| 23:09.28 | Primer | Gnarfoz: and you're counting the default UI as an addon? |
| 23:09.31 | Gnarfoz | actually for unitframes, there are quite limited ways of doing anything, because of the requirement to use secure frames |
| 23:09.32 | haste | Primer: there pretty much is |
| 23:09.38 | Gnarfoz | Primer: I am, because it is nothing more |
| 23:09.45 | haste | Primer: most add-ons use the same functions, but the design on the top can differ |
| 23:09.51 | haste | especially when it comes to unit frames :) |
| 23:09.51 | Shefki | Primer: I told you how to do this yesterday. |
| 23:10.04 | Primer | Shefki: yes, and this is the path I'm following |
| 23:10.16 | Primer | except, I don't get the concepts behind most things in addons |
| 23:10.17 | Gnarfoz | of course, Blizzard can do whatever they want, so their code is probably not what you want to read |
| 23:10.42 | profalbert | there are addons that provide functionality for any unit-frame (like clique). They iterate over all frames derived from the template, and hook scritps |
| 23:10.52 | haste | profalbert: no they don't |
| 23:10.55 | Shefki | profalbert: That's not how Clique works. |
| 23:11.04 | haste | profalbert: Clique define a global that unit frames addons add their frames to |
| 23:11.15 | profalbert | oh, sorry |
| 23:11.19 | haste | it's just a common standard we support |
| 23:11.35 | Shefki | Primer: Just use mouseover to do what you want. |
| 23:11.40 | Shefki | Don't worry about the frame. |
| 23:11.59 | Primer | so just hook to mouseover, if frame, do my thing |
| 23:12.03 | Shefki | Make your arrow frame, let the user place it where they want and use the mouseover unit. |
| 23:12.35 | haste | what Shefki says is true! |
| 23:12.38 | Primer | except I'd like to anchor the arrow frame to the unit frame |
| 23:12.41 | haste | if you are interested in frames that way |
| 23:12.59 | Shefki | Primer: Doing that really would need to be UF specific. |
| 23:13.36 | Primer | Shefki: ok, THAT answers my question, in a roundabout way |
| 23:13.48 | Primer | luckily Shefki is also a mindreader :) |
| 23:14.05 | Shefki | It could probably be done but isn't really worth the effort. |
| 23:14.38 | haste | not like there are that many unit frames out there! :----D |
| 23:14.55 | Repo | 10chatraidicontranslator: 03Mokhtar * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 23:14.56 | Shefki | haste: There's a lot more than you might think. |
| 23:14.56 | Repo | - Removed AceHook as apparently what it does is not worth the 75kB it costs |
| 23:15.09 | haste | Shefki: hi, I pretty much only write on oUF -- I kinda know :P |
| 23:15.31 | ArrowmasterClass | wtf is with the wowace servers |
| 23:15.38 | Gnarfoz | they're run by curse |
| 23:15.44 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.45 | Repo | 10chatraidicontranslator: 03Mokhtar 04v1.2.1 * r9 : Tagging as v1.2.1 |
| 23:15.50 | Gnarfoz | does that answer your question, albeit in a generic way? :p |
| 23:16.09 | haste | yes |
| 23:16.35 | haste | a more educated guess would be that the web servres have hit their client limit |
| 23:16.58 | haste | that's what it seems like at least, since the transfer rates aren't bad at all |
| 23:19.02 | ArrowmasterClass | '504 Gateway Time-out' seems like an internal problem |
| 23:19.19 | haste | not been getting those :P |
| 23:19.28 | haste | then again, I barely surf wowace |
| 23:19.51 | ArrowmasterClass | im in class so im bored |
| 23:20.46 | haste | closing in to 1AM, so I should go to bed :V |
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| 23:21.36 | Gnarfoz | closing in, it's 40 minutes away :o |
| 23:21.51 | Gnarfoz | or are you in some weird +n:30 time zone |
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| 23:22.07 | haste | I'm not, but my mind tends to drift and BAM 3AM :V |
| 23:22.09 | Gnarfoz | ...or just aware of how long it can take to stop doing shit and go to bed |
| 23:23.28 | haste | but I'm finally done ripping the march stack of CDs |
| 23:23.31 | haste | (yay) |
| 23:23.36 | haste | only two left to tag :( |
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