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| 01:45.28 | Stan_ | Tuller: how usable is the new omnicc? |
| 01:45.49 | Tuller | the tag works, at least it should |
| 01:45.59 | Tuller | just no config yet |
| 01:47.16 | Stan_ | ok cool |
| 01:47.38 | Stan_ | but the latest "trunk" does not work, right? |
| 01:48.17 | Tuller | it should be about the same |
| 01:49.12 | Tuller | i'm using it during a raid right now |
| 01:51.52 | Xinhuan | new? |
| 01:52.45 | Tuller | i rewrote omnicc to use a single onupdate handler like tullarange |
| 01:54.01 | Xinhuan | ah, are there other changes? |
| 01:55.16 | Tuller | that's pretty much the main thing |
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| 02:02.24 | Tuller | its also my main github experiment |
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| 02:15.43 | Siku | So, an even more lightweight OmniCC? That's interesting |
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| 02:17.41 | Xinhuan | omnicc can easily add an exclusion frames list |
| 02:18.06 | Xinhuan | a list of all frames affected can be listed and user can uncheck some of them |
| 02:18.21 | Xinhuan | (if its named) |
| 02:18.28 | Tuller | and that's a big if :P |
| 02:19.38 | Shefki | The Cooldown frame or the frame it's parented to? |
| 02:20.17 | Xinhuan | the frame its parented to |
| 02:20.38 | Xinhuan | well, either is possible |
| 02:20.49 | Tuller | I just wish we could tell what addon created a frame |
| 02:20.51 | Xinhuan | or get both and grab the non-nil one |
| 02:21.24 | Xinhuan | u can i think |
| 02:21.24 | Shefki | I find it funny that this discussion is being had. |
| 02:21.45 | Xinhuan | issecurevariable(t, "key") should return the addon that tainted it |
| 02:21.50 | Shefki | Because I've bitched about OmniCC not having this ability and was told by multiple people that it would be a huge performance impediment for OmniCC to do this. |
| 02:22.08 | Tuller | to blacklist? |
| 02:22.14 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 02:22.30 | Tuller | its a regex match, plus maybe a cache |
| 02:22.35 | Xinhuan | i doubt it'll affect performance, you only have to check a frame against a black list once, and mark the cooldown frame with a true/false flag |
| 02:22.54 | Tuller | I don't do it because of non named frames |
| 02:22.55 | Xinhuan | true = display, false = skip |
| 02:23.01 | Xinhuan | and skipping the frame will improve performanc |
| 02:23.06 | Tuller | if I recall, pitbull was one of those |
| 02:23.06 | Shefki | I realize that. People kept bitching at me to put in a config in PB4's Aura module for OmniCC. |
| 02:23.16 | Shefki | I kept saying that I shouldn't be providing configuration for another adodn. |
| 02:23.31 | Shefki | I finally gave up and wrote a specific addon to disable OmniCC for PB4's aura module. |
| 02:23.35 | Tuller | well technically its .noCooldownCount |
| 02:23.38 | Xinhuan | tuller, i think, if you add in the blacklist ability, authors will start naming their frames |
| 02:23.55 | Shefki | My frames have always been named |
| 02:24.02 | Tuller | where my intention was that that be a global thingy |
| 02:24.03 | Shefki | PitBull4_Aura_1 |
| 02:24.05 | Shefki | and so on. |
| 02:24.23 | Xinhuan | i'm thinking it something like Clique's approach |
| 02:24.33 | Shefki | *nod* |
| 02:24.35 | Xinhuan | it lists a big list of frames it can click cast on and all are on by default |
| 02:24.46 | Shefki | I'd be fine with that. |
| 02:25.34 | Tuller | optincc was my other theory |
| 02:26.39 | Shefki | My issue has always been if I start adding configuration for other addons behaviors, then where does it end. That's always been my complaint. |
| 02:27.29 | Shefki | Since I wrote the addon to disable it for people I haven't heard any more of the whining about it. My big complaint now is bloody HealBot. |
| 02:27.44 | Tuller | well, omnicc I always consider a different thingy |
| 02:27.57 | Stan_ | why healbot? because it's ugly? :P |
| 02:28.19 | Tuller | since omnicc is more "adds functionality to a specific widget type" |
| 02:28.33 | Shefki | Because it thinks that its config setting for hiding blizzard frames is authoritative and SHOWS them on every login/zone if they aren't shown. |
| 02:28.52 | Shefki | So then I get people complaining to me that my HideBlizzard module is busted when they just don't have HealBot configured right. |
| 02:29.15 | Torhal | Answer: If you use HealBot, GTFO. |
| 02:29.17 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:29.50 | Shefki | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/pages/faq/#w-i-have-the-blizzard-player-and-target-frames-set-to |
| 02:32.22 | Stan_ | btw, big ass feature commit soon, shefki? :P |
| 02:33.53 | Tuller | hrm, how about CooldownCountFrames = CooldownCountFrames or {} CooldownCountFrames[ParentFrame] = true |
| 02:34.58 | kadrahil | infest |
| 02:34.58 | kadrahil | hurts |
| 02:35.04 | kadrahil | on hardmode |
| 02:35.52 | Shefki | kadrahil: Disc Priests = lol |
| 02:36.01 | Tuller | then I can plop in a "only show on things registered with cooldowncountframes" option or something |
| 02:36.02 | kadrahil | yeah they're getting it |
| 02:36.10 | kadrahil | and i'm amsing it |
| 02:36.10 | Shefki | Stan_: Hopefully. |
| 02:36.48 | Stan_ | Shefki: do you have a screenshot of the new default layout? |
| 02:37.06 | Shefki | No |
| 02:37.15 | Stan_ | mkay |
| 02:37.32 | WobWork | Shefki: mmm Passive agressive FAQs =P |
| 02:37.40 | Shefki | WobWork: YEs. |
| 02:39.47 | Shefki | Stan_: I just haven't taken any and I'm not in a position where I can take any atm. |
| 02:40.44 | Stan_ | no problem, I just thought you want some feedback pre-release but it will be alpha anyway and you'll get it soon enough :p |
| 02:41.33 | Stan_ | aaand I'm bored and need some new addon stuff to play with |
| 02:41.37 | Shefki | It's mostly just putting frames over where the default UI would put the same frame. |
| 02:41.49 | Shefki | There's some exceptions that don't make sense. |
| 02:42.06 | Stan_ | and I hope you turn off some modules on units/groups by default |
| 02:42.11 | Stan_ | like runes in the party group or so |
| 02:45.40 | Stan_ | or combopoints |
| 02:47.32 | Shefki | combopoints have always been limited to target frames anyway. |
| 02:48.24 | WobWork | Shadowed: for some reason, sUF doesn't hide the raid frames for me |
| 02:48.40 | WobWork | (sUF's raid frames, that is) |
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| 02:51.22 | Repo | c3dc46c: Added a new slash command to print out the generated tradeskill links. (/arl tradelinks) Suggested by rumpl3d4skin, Ticket 1008 |
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| 03:44.44 | Xinhuan | yep pompy, they are sort of migrating databases |
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| 06:55.20 | steev | hopefully i get to do normal 10 tomorrow on my holy paladin |
| 06:55.47 | steev | and hope that sin drops the shield, and i win it, cuz god knows bql won't drop the fucking dps neck in 25 for my dk |
| 06:57.27 | evl | Is PallyPower still the weapon of choice for paladin buffs? I downloaded it but I noticed it was stil Ace2 |
| 06:57.38 | steev | zomgbuffs is what some people swear by |
| 06:57.49 | steev | "its less chatty than pally power" |
| 06:58.24 | steev | which reminds me |
| 06:58.39 | Elkano | evl, there is nothing bad about Ace2... |
| 06:58.40 | steev | i need to figure out why the hell i get an error on my paladin but not my dk when the same addons are enabled |
| 06:58.40 | evl | steev: thanks :) |
| 06:58.51 | steev | evl: fwiw, i use PP |
| 06:58.55 | Elkano | EBB still is Ace2, too |
| 06:59.14 | steev | i didn't like zomg's interface |
| 06:59.25 | steev | not that i'm a particular fan of pp |
| 06:59.36 | evl | I'm not a fan of PP's interface |
| 06:59.41 | evl | it's huge |
| 06:59.56 | steev | well zomg isn't exactly tiny |
| 07:01.26 | steev | just that all the other paladins except one (and she never plays anymore) all use PP |
| 07:01.43 | steev | assuming they even use PP (in pugs its rare to find PP) |
| 07:06.33 | steev | interesting |
| 07:06.47 | steev | wow just crashed because it needed 3456 gb of memory? |
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| 07:12.56 | Siku | if (var1) then myVar = var1 else myVar = var2 end |
| 07:13.02 | Siku | it's the same as myVar = var1 or var2 . right? |
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| 07:18.00 | papyros | Looks correct to me Siku |
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| 07:23.49 | Torhal | Siku: That is correct |
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| 07:40.43 | Siku | Oh that's interesting... the author of the StatFrameLib i just found (which has a pretty close goal of what i want to do), hasnt been seen in years. I guess i'll have to figure out how to modify it myself, fun times ahead :/ |
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| 10:09.25 | koaschten | kagaro ? |
| 10:13.49 | koaschten | No idea what i did wrong yesterday with my openMP stuff, but i went from http://tinyurl.com/2wr32t5 (without openmp, 2 threads, 4 threads) to http://tinyurl.com/34g4ukn (without openmp vs 4 threads) |
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| 12:10.08 | stolenlegacy | anybody knows for sure what the INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT event does and when it fires? it's undocumented both on wowprogramming and wowwiki |
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| 12:21.22 | jnwhiteh | stolenlegacy: probably when you engage a boss during an instance encounter |
| 12:21.46 | stolenlegacy | jnwhiteh: yes, but does it fire for all bosses? and if so, is there the name or id of the boss passed as an arg? |
| 12:21.51 | jnwhiteh | no idea |
| 12:21.56 | jnwhiteh | try and use eventtrace and find out =) |
| 12:22.03 | stolenlegacy | yeah, guessed so |
| 12:22.06 | jnwhiteh | a druid or rogue should be able to do it |
| 12:22.11 | jnwhiteh | without much difficulty at all |
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| 12:43.18 | Adirelle|work | stolenlegacy, this event is used in Blizzard's TargetFrame code to update the boss frames they introduced in 3.3 |
| 12:43.47 | stolenlegacy | Adirelle|work: so it only fires when a unit that has a boss frame appears? |
| 12:44.06 | Adirelle|work | not sure, but it could be the case |
| 12:44.13 | stolenlegacy | ty |
| 12:44.22 | Adirelle|work | that would make sense |
| 12:44.24 | stolenlegacy | then what is the best way to track boss engaging for old-world bosses? |
| 12:44.35 | stolenlegacy | most bc/wotlk bosses have a yell i can track |
| 12:44.40 | stolenlegacy | but old-world often does not |
| 12:45.19 | Adirelle|work | some people listen to the combatlog event to detect the guid of the boss |
| 12:45.26 | Adirelle|work | s/people/addon/ |
| 12:48.04 | stolenlegacy | does bodypulling fire clog events? |
| 12:48.16 | Adirelle|work | I don't think so |
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| 12:48.35 | stolenlegacy | well, but probably the first damage anyone does would fire one |
| 12:48.37 | Adirelle|work | I guess it depends on the mob though |
| 12:48.41 | stolenlegacy | so that's acceptable i think |
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| 12:49.21 | Adirelle|work | yes, actually the first people starting to cast something on the boss (or conversely, when the boss starts to cast) should do the trick |
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| 16:07.49 | Repo | fix errors when typing /raidinfo without having opened the raidframe before |
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| 16:34.58 | harl | likes how his firefox turned out - http://www.windwolf.de/ff_0610.png |
| 16:39.39 | sbu | http://gizmodo.com/5561035/google-street-view-captures-couples-first-dry-hump |
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| 17:03.08 | wink | ugh |
| 17:03.16 | wink | bit minimalistic for my liking :P |
| 17:06.05 | sbu | hm? |
| 17:06.19 | sbu | ah, firefox, not the other one |
| 17:07.10 | sbu | harl: what happened to your superbar and whats that app bar (bottom right) |
| 17:07.54 | sbu | okay, notification area |
| 17:08.56 | harl | what's a "superbar" |
| 17:09.20 | sbu | the win7 task bar :) |
| 17:09.49 | harl | i've never user win7 |
| 17:09.49 | harl | *used |
| 17:09.49 | sbu | oh... :) |
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| 17:18.52 | koaschten_ | stupid question http://pastey.net/137595 ... this kills the for loop, in case the if statement is true, right? *augh* |
| 17:19.30 | kagaro | do you intend to exit the loop or just skip an interation? |
| 17:19.39 | sbu | break exists the loop, yes |
| 17:19.45 | sbu | skip iteration would be "continue" |
| 17:20.24 | koaschten_ | yeah, so i can't parallel execute it, because break would end the loop at an unpredictable point *sigh* |
| 17:20.37 | koaschten_ | and before you ask, this is not my source, i am just modifying it |
| 17:26.54 | wink | koaschten_: do... while xYZ <4 ? |
| 17:26.58 | wink | no break needed |
| 17:27.08 | wink | or just while |
| 17:29.16 | koaschten_ | wink yeah might be a solution, but i can't parallelize while either with openMP |
| 17:29.25 | wink | eh? |
| 17:29.39 | wink | how are you supposed to write sensible code without for or while? |
| 17:30.08 | koaschten_ | openMP can parallelize for, but it does not allow break; statements in the loop |
| 17:30.29 | wink | oh, I know. a singleton calculationfactory that hands out the single iterations! |
| 17:33.28 | wink | koaschten_: and... maybe try to get the 2 assignment statements before the check and instead of break do a "maxIterations = whaterver your i is"? |
| 17:33.42 | wink | unless they aren't needed anymore, then just do that. |
| 17:35.12 | koaschten_ | yeah the obvious problem at hand is, it's not my code so i don't know the odds of it and just try to squeeze as much performance out of it by parallisation with openMP |
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| 17:41.06 | wink | well... shopuld work nevertheless |
| 17:41.16 | wink | unless your method is insanely long :P |
| 17:41.30 | wink | you can use a temp var for maxIter and only have to think about x and y |
| 17:42.54 | wink | c++ is for loonies anyway :D |
| 17:48.16 | koaschten_ | -.- |
| 17:48.21 | koaschten_ | wasn't my choice |
| 17:49.14 | wink | man up |
| 17:49.18 | wink | and refactor :D |
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| 18:39.50 | steev | woot |
| 18:39.58 | steev | getting carried through arenas is fun |
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| 20:00.28 | asmodai | So, everybody in hibernation until Cataclysm? |
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| 20:10.20 | wink | why? |
| 20:10.37 | asmodai | Channel's been quite dead. ^^ |
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| 20:25.30 | genetik- | asmodai: friday night :P |
| 20:25.46 | genetik- | well.. friday in general |
| 20:57.20 | Siku | what's different on fridays? |
| 21:03.53 | steev | bleh |
| 21:03.57 | steev | instance servers down |
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| 21:13.36 | steev | anyone have a decent sin video from a healers perspective (preferably something where you can actually SEE what is going on instead of a video that seems to be shot at 320x240 and you can't see shit on the screen) |
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| 21:34.43 | koaschten_ | what do you want to see? |
| 21:34.53 | koaschten_ | how to stand behind an iceblock and being able to heal? ;) |
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| 22:06.36 | Repo | 10asmodeusraidtracker: 03Mokhtar * r10 / (8 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:06.38 | Repo | - Hopefully fixed instability (no more need of officer list) |
| 22:06.39 | Repo | - Added a LDB Broker |
| 22:06.40 | Repo | - Enlarged some columns that were not readable in inviter |
| 22:21.43 | Repo | 10asmodeusraidtracker: 03Mokhtar * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:21.45 | Repo | - Added check to not create LDB data object if no display exists |
| 22:23.55 | Repo | 10asmodeusraidtracker: 03Mokhtar 04v1.1 * r12 : Tagging as v1.1 |
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| 23:48.09 | SunTsu | yay, tank ilevel ~ 230, healer ilevel ~ 220, we wipe because the tank pulls a second group at the beginning of Gundrak heroic. Healer: "There was nothing I could so!" - maybe healing the tank would have been an option |
| 23:51.21 | Funkeh` | where the fuck is my part 2 of incursion |
| 23:53.14 | Funkeh` | has sgu aired in america yet? |
| 23:53.41 | Torhal | Funkeh`: It won't air for about two and a half hours. |
| 23:53.50 | Torhal | Actually, closer to two |
| 23:53.50 | Funkeh` | bollocks |
| 23:54.12 | Torhal | Oh, one hour |
| 23:54.32 | Torhal | http://lilx.net/tv/calendar |
| 23:54.57 | steev | SunTsu: not everyone is awesome at healing |
| 23:55.00 | Funkeh` | so probably get it at around 3am or later online |
| 23:55.02 | Funkeh` | gah |
| 23:55.11 | Kalroth | Funkeh`: get a rss going for the tv section of dup3.me :P |
| 23:55.30 | nevcairiel | the german version of it aired |
| 23:55.33 | nevcairiel | for some arcane reason |
| 23:55.37 | nevcairiel | but i refused to watch it |
| 23:55.45 | Kalroth | why |
| 23:56.08 | Kalroth | also ep 19 and 20 were leaked in russian weeks ago |
| 23:56.08 | SunTsu | steev: yeah, 6 mobs do HELL of a damage, I know |
| 23:56.58 | nevcairiel | the dub to russian? |
| 23:57.12 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 23:57.19 | Funkeh` | i have https://www.ezrss.it/feed/ rss but it doesn't tel me schedules |
| 23:57.29 | Kalroth | oh |
| 23:57.32 | nevcairiel | I just got used to cehcking in the morning |
| 23:57.37 | nevcairiel | speaking of mornings |
| 23:57.39 | nevcairiel | good night! |
| 23:57.44 | Kalroth | yeah i should go too |
| 23:57.45 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 23:57.52 | Kalroth | but i dont wanna |
| 23:59.18 | steev | SunTsu: they can if the tank has shitty avoidance |
| 23:59.29 | steev | hate healing dks that pull all 3 of those first groups |
| 23:59.35 | steev | they are so squishy |
