| 00:00.03 | Niv | thanks again |
| 00:01.01 | Niv | you have to manually fill these 1 by 1 when you get your keys, don't you |
| 00:01.38 | ckknight | no, actually |
| 00:01.43 | Niv | oh nice |
| 00:01.43 | ckknight | we already have a system for distributing keys |
| 00:01.51 | Odlaw | nice |
| 00:01.53 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/how-to-queue-for-an-addon-author-cataclysm-beta-key/ |
| 00:01.54 | ckknight | so it's 2 clicks per order |
| 00:01.56 | ckknight | which isn't bad |
| 00:01.57 | Niv | oh, so it'll hook into the same beta system |
| 00:01.57 | Niv | nice |
| 00:02.17 | ckknight | click on order, cancel or approve |
| 00:02.21 | ckknight | if approved, it'll send out an email |
| 00:02.30 | Niv | cool |
| 00:02.32 | ckknight | and it'll exist as an item code on the server you can check any time |
| 00:02.36 | ckknight | same as the amazon gift cards |
| 00:02.38 | Adirelle | the store still lacks mugs and tee-shirts |
| 00:02.47 | ckknight | sure does, Adirelle |
| 00:02.48 | Niv | I assume you guys are waiting for delivery on keys then? |
| 00:02.49 | ckknight | which is lame. |
| 00:02.55 | ckknight | Niv: actually we might have em |
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| 00:02.57 | ckknight | not sure |
| 00:03.00 | Niv | haha |
| 00:03.01 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 00:03.05 | Niv | cool |
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| 00:03.55 | Adirelle | g'night folks |
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| 00:34.43 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r575 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-goldspam update |
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| 00:59.44 | Torhal | Yay - OpenGL Hardware Cursor support has been added. |
| 00:59.49 | Niv | I hope they take the level cap up to 85 fairly early in beta, if they don't get enough testing on heroic leap again, I will cry |
| 01:02.36 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-50-g3a9a3af / (2 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 01:02.38 | Repo | 3a9a3af: Moved filter table definitions out of CanDisplayRecipe() and cleaned the function up a bit. |
| 01:02.39 | Repo | f463bc2: Merged UpdateFilters() into ListFrame:Initialize() |
| 01:02.41 | Repo | a5c15ba: Added check for existence of addon.Frame to addon:TRADE_SKILL_CLOSE() |
| 01:15.42 | orionshock | woot got my beta invite :) |
| 01:16.06 | Wobin | nice! |
| 01:16.09 | Niv | nice |
| 01:16.27 | Wobin | I'd complain, but I honestly wouldn't do too much with a beta invite |
| 01:19.28 | Torhal | Wobin: s/with a beta invite// |
| 01:19.38 | Shefki | Ouch. |
| 01:19.42 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:20.15 | Torhal | Wobin: I've been seeing more people ask about HeyFu since 3.3.5 |
| 01:24.04 | orionshock | well lets see how cata does on crosovergames :) |
| 01:25.37 | harl | healadin set bonuses are kinda crap |
| 01:26.48 | harl | can't they add something that is actually useful? something that i can count on? something that makes me say "hell, yeah, that set bonus is damn cool. i'll get the set instead of <other crap items>!" |
| 01:27.50 | Wobin | Torhal: really? =) |
| 01:27.51 | orionshock | harl, that would be counter intuitive... |
| 01:28.00 | Wobin | I need to rewrite it to defu it |
| 01:28.03 | Wobin | but I'd need another name |
| 01:28.49 | harl | orionshock: lol.. |
| 01:32.31 | Torhal | Wobin: Yah - the new ChatFrame stuff did a number on it apparently. |
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| 16:30.23 | asmodai | Ackis: just one sentence or? |
| 16:30.50 | Ackis | asmodai: was a paragraph, got it dealt with |
| 16:30.59 | asmodai | cool |
| 16:32.03 | wink | Mein Luftkissenboot ist voller Aale. |
| 16:32.23 | wink | really all you need to know |
| 16:32.42 | sbu | mhhh |
| 16:32.57 | asmodai | O_O |
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| 16:53.50 | Repo | 10hexagrid (experimental): 03slaren * r2 / (25 files in 4 directories): - Svn import |
| 17:02.43 | steev | bah |
| 17:02.52 | steev | latest wine nightly broked me bejeweled :( |
| 17:03.03 | steev | now i'm gonna have to work... at work |
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| 17:03.28 | Funkeh` | don't use alphas at work |
| 17:03.36 | Niv | heh |
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| 17:04.59 | orionshock | sub Vangual the 11am source is from the wow status ingame where u login |
| 17:05.13 | Vangual | k thanks |
| 17:05.27 | sbu | orionshock: yea i think its the live server maintenance, nothing to do with beta |
| 17:05.40 | sbu | there is something wrong with our accounts/keys at the moment |
| 17:05.48 | orionshock | sylvanaar_atwork, still need the beta installer? |
| 17:05.49 | sbu | it seems to only affect wowi keys |
| 17:06.16 | Vangual | the account is considered frozen to the cata auth |
| 17:06.50 | orionshock | are u guys able to login? |
| 17:06.52 | Niv | no |
| 17:07.00 | Niv | 7/13 09:10:24.409 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_FAILED result: LOGIN_AUTH_OUTAGE |
| 17:07.11 | orionshock | i can check the logs agin but it'll prolly say the same as niv |
| 17:07.16 | Vangual | there's a similar live post discussing the same AUTH_OUTAGE that affected newly unfrozen accounts only |
| 17:07.49 | Niv | there are all sorts of issues over time with that error |
| 17:07.56 | Niv | many of which they didn't understand for a while |
| 17:08.42 | sbu | orionshock: its the same |
| 17:08.53 | sbu | see also http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33899 |
| 17:10.16 | sbu | Vangual: so they have to fix it... :p |
| 17:10.25 | Vangual | yes of course |
| 17:11.06 | Vangual | i'm expecting them to update the auth snapshot with adjusted data at the end of this login maintenance, fingers crossed :) |
| 17:11.34 | sbu | the maintenance that should be over for 4 hours now? yea.. me too... :p |
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| 17:12.11 | Vangual | the maintenance that should have had its post updated when new info is available 4 hours ago, yes indeed. |
| 17:12.23 | sbu | uhm? its not :) |
| 17:12.37 | Vangual | hence the use of "should have" |
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| 17:12.45 | sbu | ah... yea |
| 17:13.08 | Vangual | so I'm assuming they don't have any new info available yet, like the "it's done." info. |
| 17:13.15 | sbu | yep |
| 17:15.54 | Vangual | as a pure gues, according to their announcement of another wave later this week, the keys were probably handed out a little too early for them being ready for new accounts. |
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| 17:18.10 | Niv | you guys realize they are always quite late on beta maintenance right? |
| 17:18.36 | sbu | no :) |
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| 17:19.32 | durcyn | i wouldn't expect the beta servers to be usable until thursday, personally. |
| 17:20.40 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik * r112 SmartMount.lua: SmartMount: |
| 17:20.43 | Repo | - updated the mounts table |
| 17:21.10 | sbu | durcyn: they are usable for "regular" beta users ;) |
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| 17:54.47 | orionshock | grr, they pushed it back again another hour. |
| 17:56.20 | orionshock | >Our regularly scheduled Tuesday maintenance will begin at 05:00 AM PDT, July, 13 and end at approximately 11:00 AM PDT. During this time all realms will be down and not accessible for play. Thank you for your patienc |
| 17:57.38 | orionshock | July 13, 2010, 10:35AM PDT -- We will be extending our regularly scheduled maintenance by one hour and expect all realms to be available by approximately 12:00 PM PDT |
| 17:59.11 | Niv | they never learn their lesson |
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| 18:02.13 | Ac-town | oh well |
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| 18:04.10 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03tatechen * r303 Locales/Locale-zhTW.lua: Traditional Chinese update |
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| 18:07.07 | Primer | What could possibly take so long? |
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| 18:07.32 | steev | mysql is rebuilding the indexes? |
| 18:07.44 | Primer | Surely they don't use mysql |
| 18:07.57 | Megalon | they use CSV files |
| 18:08.07 | Ac-town | lol |
| 18:08.13 | steev | access databse? |
| 18:08.26 | Megalon | one huge instance of access |
| 18:08.30 | Megalon | running on windows ME |
| 18:08.45 | Primer | seriously though...I wonder where all this time is spent |
| 18:08.47 | steev | i thought it was mysql though |
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| 18:09.13 | genetik- | relational database would be way too slow |
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| 18:09.19 | Ac-town | Primer: im sure its trying to get all the servers working in sync |
| 18:09.33 | genetik- | i'm sure it's some sort of flat file system |
| 18:09.47 | Ac-town | cause nothing is ever the same when you bring up a large network |
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| 18:10.12 | Megalon | i heard Clipit maintains it himself |
| 18:10.41 | Primer | Ac-town: uhhh, no |
| 18:10.55 | steev | at&t maintains it, so, that could explain a bit |
| 18:11.09 | Ac-town | Primer: have you ever tried to manage 100+ servers? |
| 18:11.09 | steev | Blizzard hosts its gaming infrastructure with AT&T, which provides data center space, network monitoring and management. |
| 18:11.25 | Ac-town | steev: they just provide the racks I bet |
| 18:11.33 | steev | # Blizzard uses 20,000 systems and 1.3 petabytes of storage to power its gaming operations. |
| 18:11.33 | Primer | Ac-town: yes |
| 18:11.34 | Ac-town | racks, power, network |
| 18:11.36 | steev | # WoWâs infrastructure includes 13,250 server blades, 75,000 CPU cores, and 112.5 terabytes of blade RAM. |
| 18:11.39 | steev | # The Blizzard network is managed by a staff of 68 people. |
| 18:11.44 | steev | i think the last one is the most telling |
| 18:11.49 | Primer | you turn them on, they boot, services start...takes about 10 minutes |
| 18:12.05 | Ac-town | Primer: but usually there are a few issues here and there |
| 18:12.09 | Ac-town | I see it all the time :) |
| 18:12.13 | Primer | not if they're managed well |
| 18:12.22 | Primer | you must run windows servers |
| 18:12.24 | steev | iirc, they are HP blades |
| 18:12.29 | durcyn | Primer: so does blizzard |
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| 18:12.34 | steev | durcyn: no |
| 18:12.34 | durcyn | QED |
| 18:12.37 | Ac-town | Primer: I run linux servers lol |
| 18:12.46 | Ac-town | who in their right mind would run a windows server |
| 18:12.53 | steev | Ac-town: microsoft |
| 18:13.02 | Primer | durcyn: surely blizzard's realm infrastructure is NOT windows? |
| 18:13.12 | durcyn | Primer: portions are, i guarantee it |
| 18:13.19 | durcyn | all of EVE is run on windows server, as well |
| 18:13.30 | steev | which explains a ton |
| 18:14.01 | durcyn | you're letting your zealoty cloud your recollection of how stupid/lazy most developers are |
| 18:14.05 | durcyn | zealotry* |
| 18:14.16 | Ac-town | ^ |
| 18:14.24 | steev | http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2010/06/16/closer-look-eve-onlines-new-server-cluster/ |
| 18:14.25 | Ac-town | systems run fine, programs dont |
| 18:14.30 | Primer | I'd like to think that I'm not nearly as much of a zealot as I once was...but it seems not |
| 18:15.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | orionshock: yeah |
| 18:17.06 | arkanes_ | people really do run real stuff on windows |
| 18:17.17 | steev | it makes it much cheaper too |
| 18:17.18 | arkanes_ | and honestly it's not actually that bad |
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| 18:17.23 | arkanes_ | nah |
| 18:17.33 | steev | pay someone who can point and click is much less than paying someone who knows what they are doing |
| 18:17.49 | Primer | except for the downtime |
| 18:18.01 | Ac-town | steev: but when your data is at risk, the person who knows what they are doing are the ones that shine |
| 18:18.02 | arkanes_ | admins who can work on 20k node clusters aren't cheap no matter what OS you're running |
| 18:18.22 | steev | nor is the cost of 20k windows licenses (even with datacenter edition) |
| 18:18.26 | arkanes_ | Primer: when you run a network that serves 6 million customers on 20k blades then you can talk about how shitty windows admins are |
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| 18:18.48 | steev | arkanes_: i dunno, i like my clusterssh sessions that connect to 20k systems at once :P |
| 18:18.52 | arkanes_ | steev: we only have a few thousand nodes and our licenses are nearly free. Nobody pays retail for datacenter windows. |
| 18:18.56 | Ac-town | mcollective |
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| 18:19.10 | arkanes_ | the OS license really is the least of your issues |
| 18:19.20 | arkanes_ | even managing them isn't much of a problem |
| 18:19.20 | Primer | the downtime is |
| 18:19.21 | steev | we're nowhere near that but for our specific purpose, windows didn't make sense |
| 18:19.37 | arkanes_ | theres plenty of reasons not to use windows |
| 18:19.50 | arkanes_ | some guy on IRC talking about your downtime isn't one of them though |
| 18:19.51 | steev | http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2010/after.png i want that interface :( |
| 18:20.24 | Primer | you're right...there are plenty of other reasons....PLENTY |
| 18:20.33 | arkanes_ | sure |
| 18:20.44 | arkanes_ | like you already have an extensive in house sysadmin staff who knows something else |
| 18:21.00 | arkanes_ | or you otherwise have established infrastructure thats not windows friendly |
| 18:21.16 | arkanes_ | or maybe you're a startup, who doesn't have the close connections to MS that a company like mine does |
| 18:21.29 | Ac-town | linux can be windows friendly |
| 18:21.43 | Primer | or perhaps because MS has you by the balls |
| 18:21.49 | Primer | vendor lock-in |
| 18:22.01 | arkanes_ | there are more reasons not to choose any particular platform than there are to choose it |
| 18:22.09 | arkanes_ | Primer: thats a reason *to* choose windows, obviously |
| 18:22.14 | arkanes_ | and it happens with every platform |
| 18:22.29 | Primer | or maybe your boss said "We need to use microsoft, because that's what everyone uses...right?" |
| 18:22.37 | arkanes_ | yeah that happens too |
| 18:22.50 | arkanes_ | except s/your boss/the guy who is responsible for paying the money/ |
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| 18:23.02 | Primer | I've seen that happen |
| 18:23.04 | arkanes_ | sometimes they say "we're going to use HP-UX" too |
| 18:23.10 | Primer | sure |
| 18:23.23 | arkanes_ | so lets do some comparisons |
| 18:23.31 | arkanes_ | what kind of network are you in charge of? |
| 18:24.14 | Primer | I've seen that happen too...spend $1m on an IBM OS-400 for a proprietary software system that wouldn't work unless you hired an in-house consultant |
| 18:24.27 | Primer | arkanes_: Surely not as big as yours |
| 18:24.45 | Primer | But I used to work at a hosting company with 100+ servers, some windows |
| 18:24.48 | arkanes_ | I'm not actually a sysadmin, so I'm only *directly* responsible for relatively few servers |
| 18:24.59 | arkanes_ | about a dozen |
| 18:25.06 | Primer | luckily we had a dedicated windows person that was not me |
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| 18:25.26 | Primer | it was comical watching him schedule reboots |
| 18:25.32 | arkanes_ | company wide, we've got a couple linux servers, but most of it's windows |
| 18:26.08 | arkanes_ | our oracle instances run on hp-ux superdomes |
| 18:26.24 | Primer | at my old work I was the oracle dba |
| 18:26.28 | Primer | it ran on Linu |
| 18:26.30 | Primer | x |
| 18:26.40 | arkanes_ | yeah thats not uncommon |
| 18:26.49 | Primer | granted, it wasn't that big of an operation |
| 18:26.54 | arkanes_ | I'm not sure why we chose hp-ux for these honestly |
| 18:26.59 | Primer | just a single instance with a hot standby using log shipping |
| 18:27.05 | arkanes_ | we're not huge, a few 10s of terrabytes |
| 18:27.06 | Primer | surely some vendor |
| 18:27.17 | arkanes_ | nah our dba staff is all in house |
| 18:27.19 | asmodai | HP-UX on PA-RISC -- for if you want to walk backwards since you won't get performance |
| 18:27.33 | asmodai | Tru64 on Alpha was great |
| 18:27.53 | arkanes_ | we're IO limited in our performance |
| 18:27.58 | arkanes_ | which shouldn't really be surprising |
| 18:28.00 | Primer | most databases are |
| 18:28.15 | arkanes_ | have a couple rooms of very expensive san |
| 18:28.30 | arkanes_ | but that disk io is still the bottleneck |
| 18:28.46 | asmodai | is glad to be a dev nowadays |
| 18:29.07 | arkanes_ | I'm a dev but I have to work pretty closely with our db team |
| 18:29.14 | Primer | I'm still a sysadmin...and dba...and dev |
| 18:29.19 | Primer | same as my last gig |
| 18:29.26 | Ac-town | is only a sysadmin |
| 18:29.29 | Primer | but now I manage an EC2 cluster |
| 18:29.34 | arkanes_ | there's a ton of problems with our infrastructure of course |
| 18:29.37 | Primer | except now I also program in...gulp...java |
| 18:29.51 | arkanes_ | sigh, someone told upper management about cloud computing |
| 18:30.00 | Primer | I fucking hate java |
| 18:30.11 | Primer | Cloud is not that bad |
| 18:30.11 | arkanes_ | but instead of putting some of our stuff on EC2 they've decided to partner with MS for the new azure stuff |
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| 18:30.55 | arkanes_ | and they contracted HP to manage our virtualization effort so instead of efficient, nearly costless spin up of new servers, it takes 3 weeks and 2 separate RFC processes |
| 18:30.58 | Primer | I'm hoping to have our system on EC2's load balancer some time this year |
| 18:31.00 | arkanes_ | I'm not claiming we're perfect :) |
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| 18:31.14 | Primer | but I inherited this app that was very poorly thought out |
| 18:32.16 | orionshock | Anyone else need the beta installer while we wait for the wizzards |
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| 18:37.20 | koaschten | goes hmpf. |
| 18:37.39 | koaschten | whoever designed a quest where you ride a vehicle to kill 50 mobs and the ranged ability of the mobs hit the player instead of the vehicle ... deserves to get their real id posted on the forums |
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| 18:41.00 | steev | orionshock: i need the beta invite+installer, kthx |
| 18:41.14 | orionshock | pm me your email addy |
| 18:41.43 | orionshock | can't give you an invite, but if your signed up for one i can send u the installer while the battle.net site is down |
| 18:45.57 | koaschten | save your time orionshock |
| 18:46.03 | koaschten | i already got it uploaded |
| 18:46.10 | koaschten | just query me if you need a link steev |
| 18:46.22 | koaschten | (assuming its euro enGB ;) ) |
| 18:46.39 | asmodai | steev's US for all I know :D |
| 18:46.46 | orionshock | koaschten, i got the US one :) |
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| 19:01.14 | manorton | Hello. Is there a way to change our displayed username on wowace.com? The handle I have is a toon I do not use anymore and wish to change it to the nick I have used for years. Thanks. |
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| 19:02.13 | Groktar | want ssds NAO |
| 19:02.49 | orionshock | well noon now in PDT, still not working, no update/ |
| 19:02.51 | Zyn | buy me an SSD, Groktar .. makes me feel better, and your wallet lighter, it's a win-win |
| 19:03.11 | orionshock | Groktar, while ur sharing the love, me too :) |
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| 19:06.54 | asmodai | manorton: Ask Kaelten or Ackis I guess. |
| 19:07.14 | manorton | asmodai: Thank you. . Ill give that a try. |
| 19:08.34 | orionshock | manorton, there used to be a link to request a name change |
| 19:09.27 | koaschten | you can have mine for 300 + shipping/handling |
| 19:09.28 | pompy | it doesnt work |
| 19:09.33 | manorton | I will go search a little closer to see if I can find one. If not ill send a PM. |
| 19:10.57 | manorton | Hmm, the big question is how tied are the wowace.com to the curseforge site and if that may be my trouble in locating it? |
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| 19:13.41 | kagaro | battle.net is still down? |
| 19:14.41 | Thaoky | dunno for the US, but the EU client download is painfully slow |
| 19:15.08 | manorton | Looks that way. Cant disconect my droid from my authenticator till it comes back up so I can install Froyo :P |
| 19:15.40 | koaschten | well if painfully slow is your definition for 500kb/sec? ^^ |
| 19:16.03 | Thaoky | nah :p |
| 19:16.15 | Thaoky | it took about 20 minutes to go from 66% to 69% |
| 19:16.29 | koaschten | initial install or 1 of the 7 patches? |
| 19:16.33 | Thaoky | but it did download at 450kb/s prior to that :) |
| 19:16.37 | Ackis | I heard my name? |
| 19:16.42 | Thaoky | one of the latest I guess |
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| 19:16.51 | koaschten | points at manorton and mentions name change on wowace. |
| 19:17.05 | manorton | :) Yes. . |
| 19:17.25 | manorton | Ackis: Can I change my displayed name? |
| 19:19.19 | Ackis | no |
| 19:19.28 | Ackis | that was the short answer |
| 19:19.33 | Ackis | long answer is soon (TM) |
| 19:19.36 | manorton | :( Ok. |
| 19:19.40 | Megalon | manorton: http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 19:20.02 | manorton | wow thanks! |
| 19:20.10 | Ackis | that goes into a queue |
| 19:20.18 | Ackis | which gets ignored since there's no way to actually do it |
| 19:20.23 | Ackis | (to put it bluntly) |
| 19:20.23 | Megalon | nice! |
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| 19:20.58 | Megalon | so it is bureaucracy in its pure form? :P |
| 19:21.01 | manorton | I see |
| 19:21.14 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:21.20 | manorton | No monkies to hack a MySQL table eh? :P |
| 19:21.21 | Ackis | there were good intentions |
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| 19:21.38 | Thaoky | You receive loot [Essence of Bureaucracy]x1 |
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| 19:22.48 | manorton | Ill just have to post our guide under my old name then and wait for the option. Had the account for a while |
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| 19:25.09 | Ackis | if it were just a wowace/CF name change, that would be easy but there's this massive authentication system behind the scenes that eats babies |
| 19:25.43 | manorton | *nods* |
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| 19:45.22 | Repo | Remove some semi colons. |
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| 19:51.32 | kagaro | wow that sucked WG comes up, and horde got 8 seige in 3 mins .. rolled the fort completly |
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| 20:00.30 | orion-driod | morning all. did the auth servers come back up? |
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| 20:04.31 | sbu | orion-driod: well we cant login, but login servers are still working (they were up all the time...) :p |
| 20:04.52 | Kaelten | hi guys :) |
| 20:05.00 | orion-driod | lol. story of our lives |
| 20:05.02 | Niv | afternoon |
| 20:05.59 | sbu | orion-driod: yup - no idea, thres something wrong with our keys/accounts.. *shrug* |
| 20:06.43 | durcyn | though 45 out of the 50 keys are still downloading the client at this point |
| 20:06.47 | durcyn | i wish that was a joke |
| 20:06.59 | Funkeh` | lolwut |
| 20:07.00 | Funkeh` | http://paste.wowace.com/2177/ |
| 20:07.02 | Funkeh` | wtf..? |
| 20:07.17 | Funkeh` | blizzard's taint tracing system ftl |
| 20:07.41 | Niv | heh |
| 20:07.42 | sbu | durcyn: huh? :o |
| 20:08.15 | durcyn | sbu: 20GiB takes a while, shrug |
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| 20:08.19 | Niv | durcyn: I think that's a gross exageration |
| 20:08.29 | durcyn | yes, hyperbole is still legal in this state. |
| 20:08.35 | Niv | lies |
| 20:08.50 | sbu | durcyn: installing took longer for me ;) although i was capped at 1.5mb/s |
| 20:09.17 | durcyn | sbu: yeah, no shit. some of those texture updates were hideously slow to write to the mpqs |
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| 20:09.25 | Niv | I wonder if blizzard has noticed that there isn't any forum traffic, and that battle.net is down |
| 20:09.27 | sbu | those .skin thingies |
| 20:09.29 | Niv | ;) |
| 20:09.36 | sbu | its like 10000000 files for 2% ;) |
| 20:10.22 | orion-driod | it will install "soon" |
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| 20:10.50 | Niv | turning off AV made it go a LOT faster |
| 20:10.51 | Niv | for me |
| 20:11.14 | durcyn | on-access scanners, urk, what is this, 1995 |
| 20:11.23 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik 04v3.3-113 * r113 : Tagging as v3.3-113 |
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| 20:14.45 | Kaelten | bah thing crashed |
| 20:14.47 | Kaelten | hi again |
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| 20:21.45 | orion-driod | so what are y'all doing while u wait for the realms to come back up? |
| 20:22.49 | steev | the realms are up |
| 20:22.55 | steev | at least, Proudmoore is |
| 20:23.11 | steev | sweet |
| 20:23.11 | manorton | Scryers is |
| 20:23.12 | Niv | yea, everything is up afaik |
| 20:23.19 | steev | my buddy passed his CCNA with 910/1000 |
| 20:23.54 | durcyn | memorizing ios syntax, ugh |
| 20:24.03 | Niv | heh |
| 20:24.09 | orion-driod | grrr I'm stuck @ the dmv... |
| 20:24.09 | sbu | ugh indeed |
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| 20:28.52 | manorton | I need foooood |
| 20:30.46 | steev | bah, not enough pvpers |
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| 20:37.45 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r126 PT3-RaidLoot.lua: - Re-mine all WotLK instances |
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| 20:38.26 | Kaelten | who still needs a key? |
| 20:38.33 | profalbert | me |
| 20:38.45 | Niv | have one that works? :P |
| 20:39.40 | Stanzilla | status: placed :p |
| 20:40.00 | manorton | Would love one. |
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| 20:42.06 | Megalon | gief! |
| 20:42.07 | Xtek | I made you a beta key... |
| 20:42.10 | Xtek | ... but I eated it. |
| 20:42.19 | manorton | nom nom nom |
| 20:42.24 | Megalon | :[ |
| 20:42.35 | pompy | oh noes |
| 20:43.01 | Xtek | But first, I used it. |
| 20:43.35 | sbu | Kaelten: working key or "server busy" key? :p |
| 20:43.40 | Niv | haha |
| 20:43.43 | Niv | I want a working key |
| 20:44.29 | durcyn | it's far more likely to do with either 1) your account or 2) accounts flagged for beta access in a given time period than keys from a particular source being invalid |
| 20:44.36 | pompy | anyone set up the MoH mp beta? |
| 20:44.47 | Xtek | pompy, I tried it... thought it was meh. |
| 20:44.48 | Xtek | Buggy. |
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| 20:45.37 | Niv | oh nice, someone with a non-wowi key is having hte same problem |
| 20:45.47 | Niv | so it's likely more general |
| 20:46.02 | sbu | Niv: mh.. server busy or another eror message? |
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| 20:46.08 | Niv | server busy |
| 20:46.11 | Niv | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968569687&sid=2000 |
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| 20:46.41 | sbu | err well |
| 20:46.53 | sbu | its "frFR", thats another problem :p |
| 20:47.01 | Pneumatus | omg, tortoise svn finally has context menus in win7 libraries |
| 20:47.56 | Niv | I do wonder if that forum gets much attention though |
| 20:48.42 | Pneumatus | yeh, it does |
| 20:48.45 | Pneumatus | r4inb0w23 |
| 20:48.48 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 20:49.35 | Pneumatus | most threads tend to get a reply, which is more than can be said for in-game GM tickets |
| 20:49.43 | Pneumatus | hint: don't get stuck somewhere |
| 20:49.46 | Niv | hehe |
| 20:50.17 | Niv | I know they get responses, but I'm not sure how frequently they are checke d;) |
| 20:50.38 | Pneumatus | they tend to only respond to issues they can answer though :< |
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| 20:51.50 | Pneumatus | bnet servers being tanked probably doesnt help anyway |
| 20:53.24 | Niv | they are up at this point |
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| 20:53.55 | Aens|Superiority | Is there an accurate alternative to Skada? Combination threat meter/damage meter? |
| 20:54.17 | kagaro | ok thats jacked, now i cant post ont he live realms anymore |
| 20:54.18 | Aens|Superiority | skada's damage meter component is terribly inaccurate but I dont want to run omen and recount. |
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| 20:57.56 | Pneumatus | if it's any consollation, old accounts can still get in :P |
| 20:58.06 | profalbert | well, I have no problem running omen (actually prefer it), but I still can't find any better recount-alternative than skada |
| 20:58.26 | kagaro | well now my live forum access is ok, but beta forums stil jacked |
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| 21:05.33 | Groktar | er |
| 21:05.42 | Groktar | i made a mistake and the company website died for 3 hours |
| 21:05.44 | Groktar | is this bad? |
| 21:06.15 | Pneumatus | it's bad that it took you 3 hours to notice/rectify |
| 21:06.19 | Groktar | D: |
| 21:07.02 | Ac-town | nagios, use it |
| 21:07.31 | Shadowed | yea |
| 21:07.41 | Shadowed | There are any number of services for this :p |
| 21:07.47 | Shadowed | monit too depending on the mistake you made |
| 21:08.47 | Pneumatus | problem is when its your nagios server you tank :< |
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| 21:09.38 | sbu | monitoring-monitoring :p |
| 21:10.06 | Shadowed | well |
| 21:10.16 | Shadowed | If you tank your nagios server, and don't notice that, you are probably doing something wrong :P |
| 21:10.22 | Repo | 10yata: 03kaytikat * r88 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed button gap issues |
| 21:10.31 | Groktar | D: |
| 21:10.38 | Repo | 10yata: 03kaytikat 043.0-RC4 * r89 : Tagging as RC4 |
| 21:11.24 | Pneumatus | probably, our nagios is sat alongside our corporate website, source control and tracking system |
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| 21:11.35 | Pneumatus | if it goes down its noticed pretty quick :) |
| 21:12.38 | kagaro | i wonder if my forum access on the beta is jacke casue i had a ptr account as well. char select shows 2 accounts both blank mind you |
| 21:13.07 | sbu | no |
| 21:13.11 | cralor | i have found that if you switch between official/beta you have to relog |
| 21:13.53 | kagaro | ya |
| 21:14.02 | kagaro | it gives me bad account as i switch around |
| 21:15.39 | cralor | yeah :S |
| 21:16.05 | kagaro | and the char copy lies, it says successful, but i dont think it really finished |
| 21:16.35 | cralor | exactly |
| 21:16.51 | cralor | i believe it is something wrong with the keys that they have given us. |
| 21:17.12 | cralor | the system just isn't setup correctly with the self-flagging system |
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| 21:18.00 | Pneumatus | sounds plausable as these are the first accounts flagged with keys i guess |
| 21:18.03 | Kaelten | ugh manually approved over 70 keys so far |
| 21:18.04 | Kaelten | ugh |
| 21:18.37 | Mikk | how strategic of you to announce it AFTER wowi then, so most of us got our stuff from there :P |
| 21:18.49 | Groktar | can you approve one for me Kaelten?!?!?! |
| 21:18.58 | Groktar | bats his eyes seductively at Kaelten |
| 21:19.09 | Kaelten | have you ordered one then? |
| 21:19.12 | Mikk | yeah i need one for eBaying too |
| 21:19.15 | Mikk | oops did i say that out loud |
| 21:19.19 | Kaelten | ~lart Mikk |
| 21:19.19 | purl | drops a baby grand on Mikk |
| 21:19.22 | cralor | nvm. it's just this week's keys that suck! |
| 21:19.22 | kagaro | rofl Mikk |
| 21:19.24 | vhaarr | I need one to auction out to my guild! |
| 21:19.26 | wink | who in their right mind would buy one on ebay? |
| 21:19.33 | wink | no wait, you don't need to answer |
| 21:19.40 | Groktar | are we talking about something other than wow beta keys? |
| 21:19.41 | vhaarr | wink: what does it matter as long as you get the green? |
| 21:19.47 | wink | green? |
| 21:19.53 | Mikk | money |
| 21:19.55 | cralor | Kaelten: are you allowed to have 2? :D |
| 21:19.56 | Mikk | dollars are green... ish |
| 21:19.57 | kagaro | I would guess the batch curse got is out of the same batch blizz had set aside so same issues .. |
| 21:19.57 | Groktar | i'm confused with this ordering and ebay talk |
| 21:19.59 | wink | it's not green here: P |
| 21:20.02 | wink | hehe |
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| 21:20.39 | wink | @project guildnamegenerator |
| 21:20.39 | cralor | most likely, kagaro :( |
| 21:20.42 | Repo | wink: http://www.wowace.com/addons/guildnamegenerator/. GuildnameGenerator. Game: WoW. Armagone (Manager/Author). Updated: 215 days ago |
| 21:20.47 | wink | I suppose I'm ot eligible |
| 21:20.49 | wink | :P |
| 21:21.04 | asmodai | Promise Kaelten some cookies. |
| 21:21.09 | Pneumatus | kagaro|food: has headcount been officially abandoned yet? :< |
| 21:21.23 | asmodai | might qualify if Kaelten used more of my Python projects :P |
| 21:21.26 | Mikk | <Punch the Keys> - there you go, freebie. i wanted that but got overruled =( |
| 21:21.40 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:22.11 | wink | asmodai: are they interesting at least? |
| 21:22.55 | asmodai | wink: Think so. |
| 21:23.06 | wink | tell me more, tell me more |
| 21:23.07 | asmodai | Trac on the one side, Babel on the other. |
| 21:23.11 | asmodai | Oh, and Python committer :P |
| 21:23.20 | Mikk | we still scream it a lot when something is about to die and half the raid is dead.. PUUUNCH THEEE KEEEEEYS!!!!!! |
| 21:23.41 | wink | trac is kind of evil |
| 21:23.46 | wink | and I never heard of Babel |
| 21:23.51 | asmodai | wink: babel.edgewall.org |
| 21:23.54 | wink | Python is ok, though |
| 21:24.01 | asmodai | It's only interesting if you're into L10N/i18n |
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| 21:24.25 | wink | I don't share your fetishes |
| 21:24.31 | wink | although we're using symfony i18n atm |
| 21:24.33 | Pneumatus | i love trac :< |
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| 21:25.24 | asmodai | Pneumatus: Thanks. |
| 21:25.30 | asmodai | I love beta ptr: |
| 21:25.38 | asmodai | copy char Average Wait Time: 1 hour |
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| 21:25.44 | asmodai | copy premade: Average Wait Time: 11 hours |
| 21:25.48 | asmodai | Wait... what? |
| 21:25.50 | wink | hehe |
| 21:25.52 | Ali1331 | I remembered... |
| 21:25.58 | asmodai | Wouldn't a premade be simpler to copy? |
| 21:26.00 | Niv | and the char copy takes about 2 minutes |
| 21:26.01 | Kaelten | asmodai: where were you when we used to run trac |
| 21:26.06 | Kaelten | gods I had so many issues with that |
| 21:26.08 | Pneumatus | premades can gtfo, i refuse to group with retarded templates |
| 21:26.18 | asmodai | Kaelten: I was part of Trac from 0.9 up to close to 0.12's release. |
| 21:26.20 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (~Megalon@d86-32-5-86.cust.tele2.at) |
| 21:26.31 | Pneumatus | one day ill upgrade from .11 to .12 |
| 21:26.32 | Kaelten | we had sever server load issues related to trac |
| 21:26.40 | asmodai | Pneumatus: but still - you'd think database wise it would be faster. |
| 21:26.42 | Kaelten | but I can't remember the version |
| 21:26.46 | asmodai | Kaelten: We solved alot of them by now |
| 21:26.51 | asmodai | Kaelten: Part of the problem was Python itself |
| 21:26.57 | Kaelten | still is probably |
| 21:27.00 | asmodai | Kaelten: If you use Python, use 2.5, preferably 2.6 |
| 21:27.02 | Kaelten | python really needs to ditch the GIL |
| 21:27.07 | asmodai | Nah, not just that. |
| 21:27.17 | asmodai | It was caching a shitload of stuff in memory. |
| 21:27.23 | Kaelten | I personally consider threading it's weakest aspect |
| 21:27.30 | asmodai | A lot of that has been curbed and reduced. |
| 21:27.31 | asmodai | And yes. |
| 21:27.33 | Megalon | <3 Kaelten! |
| 21:27.37 | asmodai | GIL/threading is an issue. |
| 21:27.40 | Kaelten | Megalon: :D |
| 21:27.49 | Megalon | Congratulations, fellow author! |
| 21:27.52 | Megalon | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 21:27.54 | asmodai | Kaelten: In fact, on the dev list and recent PyCon talks the GIL has been scrutinized like crazy |
| 21:28.12 | Kaelten | asmodai: but if I'm not mistaken people have been scrutinizing it for _years_ |
| 21:28.22 | Kaelten | and every time it's been backbburnered |
| 21:28.39 | asmodai | Kaelten: looking at it and go "meh" |
| 21:28.45 | asmodai | Kaelten: This time people are putting code out. |
| 21:28.58 | asmodai | Kaelten: One project, at least, was unladen swallow by Google. |
| 21:29.03 | Pneumatus | my only real beef with trac is lack of multi-repo support, but thats been sorted in .12 |
| 21:29.21 | asmodai | Pneumatus: Aye |
| 21:29.33 | asmodai | Pneumatus: And my contribution to 0.12 is the internationalization and localization |
| 21:29.44 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (~sylvanaar@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 21:29.55 | asmodai | Including better support for timezones and such stuff. |
| 21:30.13 | Groktar | mmm |
| 21:30.22 | Xtek | I've used trac for a long, long time. I've liked it's simplicity and such though it was missing some features. So I tried out redmine and it's pretty much trac... but better. |
| 21:30.26 | Groktar | i guess i need to go write an addon then |
| 21:30.32 | Groktar | quick, someone give me an idea |
| 21:30.51 | asmodai | Xtek: Things might pick up with Trac now again though. |
| 21:30.55 | wink | Groktar: I've no idea, BUT I know you need a co-author |
| 21:30.57 | asmodai | Xtek: Was a bit of a deadlock for a while. |
| 21:31.16 | Groktar | D: |
| 21:31.23 | Pneumatus | saying that, i wish I could use a single trac instance but have a segregation between internal development and customer support |
| 21:31.24 | wink | I'm not very fond of redmine |
| 21:31.26 | Xtek | asmodai, well in the meantime I find redmine to be everything I wanted from trac. |
| 21:31.35 | Xtek | It's so similar |
| 21:31.36 | nevcairiel | redmine is so awful |
| 21:31.38 | asmodai | Xtek: *nod* |
| 21:31.49 | wink | is using JIRA lately and likes it |
| 21:31.51 | Xtek | nevcairiel, I don't mind it. |
| 21:31.58 | asmodai | Honestly, I like their CSS more than Trac's |
| 21:32.24 | asmodai | wink: yeah, we use it at work |
| 21:32.51 | wink | we're transitioning atm |
| 21:33.19 | Pneumatus | finding a cms/knowledgebase platform that has the extensibilty to add something like support ticket tracking, along with the facility to release control publishing content to the CMS is a nightmare i've given up on :< |
| 21:33.28 | wink | plus I'm at a customer's office now and they use th full spectrum, Confluence, JIRA, Fisheye, Bamboo |
| 21:33.42 | Kaelten | asmodai: ya I saw unladen swallow and that looked very neat |
| 21:34.18 | Xtek | wink, have you seen the Greenhopper thing? |
| 21:34.27 | Xtek | If you're into agile development it's pretty neat. |
| 21:34.36 | wink | Xtek: I installed it, but not used it yet :P |
| 21:34.50 | Groktar | wink: if you came up with something not terrible i'd let you coauthor |
| 21:35.05 | Groktar | i'm assuming you want to coauthor since you don't know lua |
| 21:35.06 | Groktar | :p |
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| 21:35.25 | wink | Groktar: actually I'm just always out of time to start a new project |
| 21:35.27 | Ac-town | ugh, trac |
| 21:35.32 | wink | plus I can learn :P |
| 21:35.35 | asmodai | Kaelten: Didn't yield the results they wanted |
| 21:35.43 | wink | my lua is horrible, but not nonexistant |
| 21:35.58 | wink | Groktar: a better, working tellmewhen |
| 21:36.04 | wink | is what I'm missing |
| 21:36.09 | vhaarr | Kaelten: can't you just get a list of the author names and number of projects active on curseforge/wowace, sort by number of projects and start at the top? |
| 21:36.23 | vhaarr | Kaelten: if it's taking a long time to do it manually, I mean, seems like that would make it easier |
| 21:36.41 | Mikk | but lol |
| 21:36.46 | Mikk | beta installer isn't jsut a little bit silly |
| 21:36.53 | Mikk | if you minimize it, it starts using 100% cpu |
| 21:37.09 | vhaarr | yeah it's insane, and crashed my wine 10+ times |
| 21:37.13 | Pneumatus | shutdown in 10's make me :sadface: |
| 21:37.25 | Niv | talent patch should make you smike |
| 21:37.28 | nevcairiel | nah Pneumatus, means talent patch! |
| 21:37.32 | Pneumatus | i hope so |
| 21:37.36 | Mikk | ohwell at least it doesnt play the bloody music while backgrounded |
| 21:37.40 | Pneumatus | well, i actually hope it means worgens getting flagged in outland |
| 21:37.55 | Niv | quests are still neutral? |
| 21:37.56 | vhaarr | Mikk: pulseaudio makes it easy to mute processes from playing, I just mute wine/* |
| 21:37.59 | Megalon | Mikk: oh? it does not peak on cpu use when i minimize |
| 21:38.00 | Megalon | it |
| 21:38.09 | Megalon | oh wine :x |
| 21:38.22 | Pneumatus | Niv: can hardly pick any quests up from the start, get the intro to the dark portal then the flight master wont even fly you to HH |
| 21:38.42 | Niv | so run like we used to? :) |
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| 21:38.53 | Pneumatus | and then when you get to HH you get 1 dead-end chain |
| 21:39.01 | Pneumatus | most quests arent offered |
| 21:39.41 | NeoTron | well at least you can get mounts now right? |
| 21:39.48 | Niv | hehe |
| 21:39.48 | Pneumatus | they just need to flag worgen/goblins as eligable for them all |
| 21:39.53 | Niv | deathknight mounts I hear? |
| 21:39.55 | Niv | or was it warlock |
| 21:39.56 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: yer, worgen can ride nelf mounts |
| 21:40.03 | NeoTron | it's weird - wouldn't you just have a flag "faction" on each race or some shit? |
| 21:40.12 | Pneumatus | apparently not |
| 21:40.19 | durcyn | NeoTron: legacy design fuckups |
| 21:40.24 | asmodai | Can one copy parts from normal WOW to the beta folder to speed up downloading? |
| 21:40.25 | NeoTron | there are things ike this that makes you wonder about the core design of WoW |
| 21:40.31 | durcyn | asmodai: no |
| 21:40.37 | NeoTron | my guess is that it's a horribly complex and badly written piece of software |
| 21:40.42 | Ali1331 | most the gear cata.wowhead is pulling has race requirements on it, of everything except worgen so same problem I guess |
| 21:40.57 | NeoTron | from what I've seen of game code, it's among the worst most hacky code ever written |
| 21:40.57 | asmodai | durcyn: feck |
| 21:41.03 | NeoTron | I can imagine an MMO is worse :P |
| 21:41.08 | durcyn | NeoTron: you're talking about a 10+-year-old codebase dating back to the original Warcraft Adventures codebase, not every design decision was forward-thinking |
| 21:41.24 | durcyn | i dare you do do better |
| 21:41.33 | wink | I wonder if there were design decisions :P |
| 21:41.38 | NeoTron | I do do better at work :P |
| 21:41.59 | NeoTron | dare I say "crunch times" where people work 10-12 hours per day 6-7 days per week for months |
| 21:42.10 | NeoTron | that sort of things breeds bad code |
| 21:42.35 | NeoTron | it was actually very noticeable in the original alpha/beta - the closer to launch, the worse the quality of patches were |
| 21:43.23 | Pneumatus | having a level 1 with full 24-slot bags makes me smile |
| 21:43.27 | Mytos | and more patches to fix stuff that got broke by bad patches |
| 21:43.29 | Pneumatus | i wonder if they will fix that bug in the patch |
| 21:43.36 | NeoTron | my friend @ blizzard posts regular updates on Saturdays and Sundays about his day at work |
| 21:43.49 | NeoTron | and once posted an amazing news post that he had a normal 8 hour day for once |
| 21:43.59 | sylvanaar | did you guys have to babysit the ptr download? |
| 21:44.07 | Ali1331 | no |
| 21:44.07 | durcyn | babysit? |
| 21:44.09 | Ali1331 | just let it run |
| 21:44.25 | durcyn | just fire and forget, i think it even loads the launcher to autopatch after install |
| 21:44.26 | sylvanaar | so it doesnt need restarting after the first 2G |
| 21:44.32 | sylvanaar | cool |
| 21:44.34 | durcyn | no, it writes it out directly now |
| 21:44.36 | Pneumatus | so, i'm assuming now isn't a good time to think about downloading the EU set of patches so i can uninstall the US client? |
| 21:44.51 | durcyn | or, i guess the best way to say is that it installs from the torrent instead of an intermediate installer now |
| 21:44.54 | sylvanaar | i had to log into bnet in order to get the downloader to work |
| 21:45.04 | sbu | Pneumatus: why? |
| 21:45.18 | Pneumatus | people moaning its slow, etc |
| 21:45.32 | durcyn | Pneumatus: the mpq patches take hours |
| 21:46.21 | wink | sylvanaar! what is this small column of black in Prat since 3.3.5 (below the social button) and why can't I find how to turn it off? :P |
| 21:46.39 | Pneumatus | ooh, there's a blue post, it must be a patch! |
| 21:46.46 | Pneumatus | *crosses fingers* |
| 21:46.48 | Niv | you're slow :) |
| 21:46.54 | wink | quick! to the torrentmobile |
| 21:47.12 | Ali1331 | maintainence? |
| 21:47.16 | NeoTron | it won't be up until late tonight most likely |
| 21:47.21 | Pneumatus | as long as it isn't another bloody 2gb one |
| 21:47.27 | Niv | I hope it's a 2G one |
| 21:47.51 | Niv | more shit fixed/done if os |
| 21:47.52 | Niv | so* |
| 21:47.57 | Pneumatus | although, if it is a huge one, it may come with another zone being unlocked and a cap increase |
| 21:48.23 | Ali1331 | the last big patch, 1.1 or so didnt seem to have much in it |
| 21:48.35 | Ali1331 | 1.1gb that is |
| 21:49.18 | Pneumatus | the 1.1gb patch was when a load more 1-60 zones got patched in iirc |
| 21:49.27 | Pneumatus | like 3 patches ago |
| 21:49.33 | Groktar | doesn't a 2 gigabyte patch just mean they had more opportunities to break stuff? |
| 21:49.34 | Groktar | >.> |
| 21:49.49 | NeoTron | Groktar: no that usually happens in the small ones! |
| 21:50.13 | NeoTron | Changes: Fixed issue with npc in Dalaran, bugs: Al'ar now goes meteor 10 times per minute |
| 21:50.18 | NeoTron | that sort of thing :P |
| 21:50.22 | Mikk | hahahaha |
| 21:50.31 | Pneumatus | onyxia deep breaths more, etc |
| 21:50.38 | Niv | man |
| 21:50.39 | NeoTron | remember when Alar did do that? |
| 21:50.42 | Niv | the best one is still the orc shoulders |
| 21:50.42 | NeoTron | it was crazy |
| 21:50.56 | NeoTron | meteor, boom, meteor, boom, meteor, boom |
| 21:50.59 | NeoTron | we almost got him too |
| 21:51.06 | Pneumatus | might even get bnet hooked up properly in this patch |
| 21:51.12 | Groktar | i remember the first hour of attempts where our RL wanted everyone to help on adds in p2 |
| 21:51.17 | NeoTron | I suppose now when it's open they can do that |
| 21:51.21 | Groktar | never seen a boss's hp drop that slowly |
| 21:51.41 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: well, they could have done it in the last patch too, the NDA was lifted before it |
| 21:51.58 | Pneumatus | they added in the bnet tab at that point, but it isnt wired up properly |
| 21:51.59 | Mikk | i imagine it's not on the list of prioritized stuff they want tested |
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| 21:52.37 | Pneumatus | probably not, the mid-late classic content isn't getting much attention either |
| 21:52.43 | Pneumatus | because people are too lazy to level |
| 21:53.03 | Mikk | well bluh allow us to turn RAF levels of +xp on :P |
| 21:53.22 | NeoTron | maybe they will add a guild ui |
| 21:53.36 | Pneumatus | getting the guild gui back would definatly be nice |
| 21:53.44 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: are you sure? I do't recall any patches after the nda was lifted |
| 21:54.16 | Ali1331 | there havent been any since NDA was lifted |
| 21:54.34 | Pneumatus | nda was lifted on the 30th, i downloaded the latest patch on the 2nd |
| 21:54.38 | Pneumatus | maybe i was late |
| 21:54.43 | Ali1331 | ye |
| 21:55.32 | NeoTron | -rwx------+ 1 neotron None 549507460 2010-06-30 19:47 WoW-4.0.0.12266-to-4.0.0.12319-enUS-patch.exe |
| 21:55.39 | NeoTron | latest patch I have |
| 21:55.42 | Niv | same |
| 21:55.53 | Pneumatus | so you downloaded on the same day as nda lift |
| 21:56.08 | NeoTron | I don't think I did it on the day of the release though |
| 21:56.20 | Ali1331 | It was released day before or maybe 2 days |
| 21:56.27 | Ali1331 | to kinda get everything working for beta |
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| 21:57.14 | Pneumatus | 11927 on the 7th May :< |
| 22:01.24 | SunTsu | ~ugt |
| 22:01.25 | purl | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 22:01.46 | Ac-town | NeoTron: ls -lah WoW* |
| 22:02.05 | orionshock | wtb beta login to work |
| 22:02.46 | Pneumatus | orionshock: server is down anyway |
| 22:03.06 | NeoTron | Ac-town: why? :P |
| 22:03.23 | Pneumatus | -h is for people that can't read big numbers |
| 22:03.25 | orionshock | im still getting the login outage |
| 22:03.28 | Ac-town | Pneumatus: yep |
| 22:03.32 | Ac-town | I wanted to be lazy lol |
| 22:03.44 | Pneumatus | 525M anyway |
| 22:03.46 | Groktar | quick orionshock, make me coauthor on one of your projects so i can get invite |
| 22:03.57 | Ac-town | yeah, I took the time to figure it out |
| 22:03.58 | orionshock | Groktar, lol |
| 22:03.59 | Ali1331 | lol |
| 22:04.09 | Ac-town | lol |
| 22:04.15 | Groktar | offers to be totally productive |
| 22:04.18 | Ac-town | wait addon devs get keys? |
| 22:04.22 | Pneumatus | biggest was ~1.2GB, smallest is 162M |
| 22:04.22 | orionshock | Groktar, i add translators to my author list when they accept it |
| 22:04.32 | orionshock | Ac-town, yep, wowi and curse do that |
| 22:04.39 | NeoTron | I was mostly concerned about the date ,not the size :P |
| 22:04.41 | Ac-town | orionshock: all of them? |
| 22:04.50 | sbu | Ac-town: yes |
| 22:04.59 | orionshock | Ac-town, it's practically a guaranteed invite provided u have an update addon for the latest patch |
| 22:05.02 | Ali1331 | 12025->12065 was 131mb |
| 22:05.07 | Ac-town | wow |
| 22:05.19 | Niv | in fact, you can pick your site |
| 22:05.21 | Ac-town | I wish I got around to learning lua lol |
| 22:05.24 | Pneumatus | i used to be on the ARL authors list till ackis infuriated me with constant @project ARL'ing |
| 22:05.25 | Niv | curse or wowi are both giving out keys |
| 22:05.30 | Groktar | :p |
| 22:05.31 | orionshock | Bizzard is nice about doing that. they reilized that we addon authors make the game turn round |
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| 22:05.53 | Pneumatus | oyer, 12025-12065 is the smallest |
| 22:06.19 | NeoTron | although I'm not exactly amazingly active right now I'd likely quit wow years ago if it wasn't for custom UI's |
| 22:06.28 | Pneumatus | http://failblog.org/2010/07/13/epic-fail-photos-amazon-fail/ |
| 22:06.33 | Pneumatus | this is why we cant have nice things :< |
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| 22:06.50 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki * r272 Fu/Fu.lua: Fix an error with Fu Module when a friend is on Starcraft2. |
| 22:06.51 | *** join/#wowace Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:07.38 | harl | why do i need to have an active account on the us realms array to be allowed the creation of entries in the us forums.. |
| 22:08.07 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: love it |
| 22:08.37 | *** join/#wowace Adys_ (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:10.28 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: http://amzn.com/dp/0802139272/ still there (not surprising) |
| 22:13.07 | Pneumatus | in unrelated news, wtb a decent iplayer app for android :< |
| 22:13.51 | Ali1331 | what do people get when they try and login to beta atm btw? |
| 22:13.53 | ckknight | I believe P ? NP, prove me wrong! |
| 22:14.17 | Pneumatus | Ali1331: a list of offline realms |
| 22:14.47 | Ali1331 | mmm |
| 22:14.53 | koaschten | p:np is awesome ckknight :) |
| 22:15.16 | koaschten | my prof loves to loose the topic of a lecture and just go nuts on p np |
| 22:15.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:15.53 | ckknight | it's a fun topic |
| 22:16.41 | harl | hm, bbc, bb cool.. telling me on their site that the reason for me not being allowed to watch stuff using the online bbc broadcast/iplayer is that i'm just not allowed to do so. d'oh. |
| 22:17.09 | Mirrormn | I believe P is more complex than NP |
| 22:17.39 | Xtek | hey Adys_ :P |
| 22:17.48 | Adys_ | hi! |
| 22:17.53 | Ali1331 | hello |
| 22:19.08 | koaschten | harl which is far worse, there was this post on getting hulu to work from anywhere in the world using some port blocking and a html header modifier... which just doesnt work for me :( |
| 22:19.17 | ckknight | Adys_, my nemesis |
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| 22:20.25 | Groktar | grovels at ckknight's feet for a beta invite |
| 22:20.43 | Niv | don't feel too rushed |
| 22:20.48 | sbu | Groktar: go to wowace + order one :p |
| 22:20.49 | ckknight | Groktar: rawr! |
| 22:20.50 | Kaelten | Groktar: ? |
| 22:20.52 | Kaelten | have you ordered one? |
| 22:20.53 | Niv | servers are down, and you likely can't login with the keys anyway :) |
| 22:20.54 | ckknight | yea, just order one, Groktar |
| 22:21.07 | Groktar | i'd have to actually write an addon |
| 22:21.14 | Groktar | and i don't have an idea for one |
| 22:21.17 | Kaelten | Groktar, ahve you contributed to any? |
| 22:21.36 | Groktar | not in very long time |
| 22:21.43 | Groktar | like tbc |
| 22:21.54 | vhaarr | jnwhiteh: is http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CombatLog_Object_IsA up to date? CombatLog_Object_IsA(sGUID, COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS) returns 1 when my character is the sGUID |
| 22:22.20 | Niv | you can localize mine |
| 22:22.22 | Niv | hehe |
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| 22:22.29 | Niv | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.46 | koaschten | which language Niv? |
| 22:22.46 | Niv | dirty euros ;) |
| 22:22.53 | Niv | english would be a start, haha |
| 22:22.59 | Niv | I just haven't plumbed it |
| 22:23.04 | Niv | was just a joke |
| 22:23.13 | koaschten | i have a key, just curious |
| 22:23.38 | Groktar | lol |
| 22:23.38 | Niv | I might even fix it this week |
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| 22:28.14 | Pneumatus | lol http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1595/topsecretp.png arms has imp bandage! |
| 22:28.19 | Groktar | o sweet |
| 22:28.25 | Groktar | there's a lua plugin for eclipse |
| 22:28.25 | vhaarr | jnwhiteh: ah for gods sake nevermind |
| 22:28.26 | Groktar | installs |
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| 22:28.37 | Pneumatus | (this may be fake, or something) |
| 22:29.42 | jnwhiteh | vhaarr: nevermind? |
| 22:29.51 | jnwhiteh | now I have to ask you what |
| 22:29.56 | Mirrormn | he probably realized you're supposed to use flags instead of GUID |
| 22:29.56 | jnwhiteh | since I didn't see anything from you before :P |
| 22:30.05 | vhaarr | jnwhiteh: 8min ago I said this; |
| 22:30.08 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> jnwhiteh: is http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CombatLog_Object_IsA up to date? CombatLog_Object_IsA(sGUID, COMBATLOG_FILTER_HOSTILE_UNITS) returns 1 when my character is the sGUID |
| 22:30.17 | jnwhiteh | ah okay |
| 22:30.43 | vhaarr | how come you didn't see that though? |
| 22:30.59 | Mirrormn | though that does lead to the question, could the functionality be duplicated through GUID... |
| 22:31.03 | jnwhiteh | oh I do now |
| 22:31.06 | jnwhiteh | i scrolled past it |
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| 22:37.56 | orionshock | is it confermed that "Login Server Busy" errors for beta are only affecting WoWI keys? |
| 22:37.56 | Niv | seems like a large number of people who have gotten their keys this week |
| 22:38.00 | Niv | but not everyone |
| 22:38.12 | orionshock | any tricks that work? |
| 22:38.39 | Niv | nope |
| 22:38.54 | kagaro | yo Ackis you around? |
| 22:40.12 | orionshock | kinda irrirating, when i copy a char over, it uses a transfer, but dosn't show it even happening / pending / posted |
| 22:42.11 | quiescens | the character copy gnomes must have run off with it |
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| 23:03.08 | Nickenyfiken | Hmmhmm damn tainting. Is there a easy way to find out what addon is causing a taint? The taint happens when i try to set focus on a unit. I know it is not the UF addon because it works fine alone. If I have Ace3 installed it is blamed, if I don't there is just some random addon getting blamed. |
| 23:03.42 | Niv | turn taint log on? |
| 23:03.45 | Shefki | Nickenyfiken: That can't be fixed. |
| 23:04.01 | Shefki | All unit frame addons taint the Set Focus menu option. |
| 23:04.06 | Shefki | There's nothing we can do to fix it. |
| 23:04.23 | Shefki | And if you're bothered to search at all about this you would have found the 100 posts a day about this. |
| 23:04.59 | Nickenyfiken | Uhm well it is working just fine if I have all other addons disabled. |
| 23:05.23 | Shefki | Read what I said. |
| 23:06.22 | Nickenyfiken | Niv: Thanks ill try that. |
| 23:06.40 | Mytos | ......... |
| 23:06.47 | Niv | hehe |
| 23:06.58 | Mytos | man talk about not seeing the forest but for the trees |
| 23:07.07 | Shefki | Have fun spending hours debugging something we already know you can't fix. |
| 23:07.35 | Nickenyfiken | Shefki: Well I wont. But I can set focus if all other addons is disabled except the UF addon. |
| 23:07.46 | Shefki | Nickenyfiken: Try /focus |
| 23:07.49 | Shefki | Or setting a keybinding |
| 23:08.54 | Shefki | Dear UnitFrame authors, how long is it going to take you to get tired of this complaint and do what PitBull4 did and just remove the bloody menu option. |
| 23:09.14 | Niv | haha |
| 23:09.33 | Nickenyfiken | Haha |
| 23:09.43 | Nickenyfiken | Well I'm not complaining :-) |
| 23:09.56 | Stanzilla | Dear Shefki, wtb Boss Frames commit :p |
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| 23:10.16 | Shefki | Dear Stanzilla, find a way to create more time in a day. |
| 23:10.27 | sylvanaar | wtb more time in a day |
| 23:10.33 | Nickenyfiken | I just think it is weird that it is working just fine alone but not with other addons... |
| 23:10.35 | Stanzilla | Dear God, give Shefki more time in a day. |
| 23:10.59 | Shefki | Nickenyfiken: Ok here let me walk you through this. |
| 23:11.08 | Shefki | Nickenyfiken: The unit frame addon has to trigger the mneu to be shown. |
| 23:11.18 | Shefki | Blizzard has no secure path for menus. |
| 23:11.20 | Shefki | Thus.... |
| 23:11.36 | Nickenyfiken | Ah I see. |
| 23:11.45 | Shefki | No way to click a menu and execute a secure menu option, unless the menu is created and displayed from within entirely Blizzard code. |
| 23:11.59 | Shefki | Thus all unit frame addons break the Set Focus menu option. |
| 23:12.46 | koaschten | do people really "rightclick -> focus" on target frames? |
| 23:12.53 | koaschten | i find it faster to just /focus |
| 23:12.53 | Shefki | koaschten: Apparently. |
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| 23:16.22 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r538 / (2 files in 2 directories): #RaidWatch_Core/BasePlugins/CombatScanner: |
| 23:16.23 | Repo | - Only warn for possible broken combatlog while fighting bosses. |
| 23:16.24 | Repo | #RaidWatch_Plugins/Controller: |
| 23:16.25 | Repo | - Clean up the title a little. |
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| 23:19.06 | Stanzilla | anyone here had the issue where you character is stuck in auto-run? |
| 23:19.44 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7526 Plugins/Tips.lua: Make the output to chat option work. Drycoded. |
| 23:19.49 | Shefki | Stanzilla: Yup. |
| 23:20.15 | Stanzilla | I can even reproduce it |
| 23:20.20 | Stanzilla | shift+turn left triggers it |
| 23:20.22 | Shefki | Long standing bug. |
| 23:21.27 | Stanzilla | so I guess there is no fix for it, right? |
| 23:22.00 | koaschten | sure, press forward |
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| 23:25.04 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 23:25.12 | Kaelten | how's it going guys? |
| 23:25.14 | Shefki | Stanzilla: Dick around until eventually it fixes or hold down s while logging out. |
| 23:25.39 | Stanzilla | s? |
| 23:25.41 | Stanzilla | why s? O.o |
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| 23:25.48 | Shefki | It'll stop you from moving. |
| 23:25.52 | koaschten | beta maintenance makes your day suck ;) |
| 23:25.56 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 23:26.10 | Stanzilla | it stops after mashing random buttons, too |
| 23:26.16 | Shefki | Right. |
| 23:26.17 | Stanzilla | but that's no real solution |
| 23:26.22 | Stanzilla | if that happensi n boss fights.. |
| 23:26.35 | Shefki | It usually happens when you're tabbing out of the game. |
| 23:26.49 | Shefki | Because the game gets a keydown event but never the corresponding keyup. |
| 23:27.44 | sylvanaar | man they are gettin rowdy on the prat thread... |
| 23:27.48 | sylvanaar | is scared |
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| 23:29.43 | sylvanaar | is making some homemade Android 2.2 |
| 23:33.28 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 07master * 3.3.5.8 BlizzBugsSuck.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 23:33.30 | Repo | 707c202: Remove an unnecessary anonymous function. |
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| 23:33.41 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 043.3.5.8 * 91ddf97 /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.5.8 |
| 23:35.27 | Stanzilla | turning "NUM" off, fixes it |
| 23:35.29 | Stanzilla | amazing.. |
| 23:36.04 | pompy | u didnt know that? |
| 23:36.05 | pompy | :O |
| 23:37.06 | Stanzilla | :p |
| 23:37.20 | Stanzilla | auto run is not bound |
| 23:39.44 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/blog=163198 |
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| 23:48.34 | Kaelten | hey guys |
| 23:48.39 | Kaelten | can people take a look at http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/cancel/ |
| 23:49.01 | Shefki | What do you want me to look at? |
| 23:49.58 | Kaelten | I'm trying to take an extra look at anyone who's requesting a beta key who before it was announced wasn't part of the site at all |
| 23:50.20 | Shefki | Kaelten: http://www.wowace.com/addons/deus-vox-encounters/tickets/163-installation-failed/ |
| 23:50.25 | Shefki | Kaelten: Curse Client bug. |
| 23:50.33 | Shefki | Please move. |
| 23:50.38 | orionshock | Kaelten, that addon seems mighty small... |
| 23:50.52 | Kaelten | Shefki: they need to report it here: http://clientsupport.curse.com/ |
| 23:50.58 | Shefki | Can't move it? |
| 23:51.08 | Kaelten | no, they systems aren't related at all :( |
| 23:51.23 | Kaelten | got another new comer here: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/friend-or-foe/ |
| 23:51.26 | Shefki | Why do you guys have to design a new bloody system for everything. |
| 23:52.18 | WobWork | orionshock: it looks viable from the code |
| 23:52.33 | Kaelten | Shefki: beats me |
| 23:53.03 | orionshock | WobWork, yes, but written like an asshat imo.. my impressions from the formatting of the code says "newbie here from another prog lang trying to fake it" |
| 23:53.30 | WobWork | Kaelten: do you have a limit on beta keys? |
| 23:53.42 | Shefki | Kaelten: That Cancel addon looks like it would work. Pretty sure it would leak globals and stuff. |
| 23:53.51 | Groktar | orionshock: why would anyone do such a thing? |
| 23:53.57 | Groktar | /innocent |
| 23:54.52 | Stanzilla | why the hell can't I bind "5" on the num block to "move forward" when num is disabled? all other keys work, just 5 doesn't |
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| 23:54.54 | Shefki | orionshock: I'm not fond of his formatting, but other than leaking glboals I don't see what's wrong with it. |
| 23:55.12 | Shefki | All that said, needing to edit the code makes it useless to pretty much anyone but the author. |
| 23:55.13 | Kaelten | sec phone call |
| 23:55.14 | orionshock | Kaelten, the friend of foe one looks like someone trying to expand a 10 line function in to a 60 line pice of code. |
| 23:55.36 | WobWork | well, if you do have a limit on keys |
| 23:55.47 | WobWork | just hand them out to people with a longer history first |
| 23:56.30 | Kaelten | back |
| 23:56.55 | orionshock | WobWork has got a good point |
| 23:57.12 | Kaelten | WobWork: they are limited, but I'll get more after a while, so I'm going to prefer established members of the community over new comers, but I'm also having to be careful about people uploading things just for the sake of getting a key |
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| 23:57.34 | Groktar | /innocent |
| 23:57.35 | Kaelten | last year we had someone upload OneBag with a new folder name |
| 23:57.36 | WobWork | I've signed up with wowi's distribution, so I won't do it on curse.. not sure about doubling up =) |
| 23:57.57 | WobWork | Kaelten: what sort of history can you get? |
| 23:58.01 | orionshock | WobWork, they talk to each other, so no doubles |
| 23:58.13 | Kaelten | WobWork: ? |
| 23:59.00 | Shefki | I think it would be fair to say if you just uploaded your addon after this was in place to reject giving them keys. |
| 23:59.13 | WobWork | Shefki: not so |
| 23:59.19 | Shefki | Both major sites are doing it. |
| 23:59.22 | Kaelten | Shefki: na, but they'll get last pick |
| 23:59.25 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 23:59.46 | WobWork | uploading your addon -now- shouldn't eliminate you from contention |
| 23:59.49 | Shefki | If you haven't uploaded to either of them before... Then you're not really part of the community so it's not really a benefit to the community to give them a key. |
| 23:59.53 | WobWork | *consideration |
