| 00:00.16 | flexd | NeoTron: yea |
| 00:00.27 | flexd | silly that wow does not give proper error messages though |
| 00:03.20 | kadrahil | yes, it just does things like let the blue bar fill up completely then cease to do anything else. |
| 00:12.09 | NeoTron | flexd: that was my point though - I don't recall the error messages being incorrect (like the wrong line) |
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| 00:13.05 | flexd | NeoTron: luac gave a good error message |
| 00:13.12 | flexd | wow just complained about something with line 1 |
| 00:13.20 | flexd | when it was really a if missing a 'then' |
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| 00:19.23 | NeoTron | just saying I never had an issue like that. :P |
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| 00:34.27 | flexd | anyhow |
| 00:34.28 | flexd | it works! |
| 00:34.35 | flexd | just need to add/change the other files |
| 00:35.35 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r524 RaidDebuffs/Grid2StatusRaidDebuffs.lua: split out Necrotic Plague to own indicator |
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| 03:16.46 | binder | hmm |
| 03:17.00 | binder | somehow I broke fubar_experience workin with bazooka |
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| 03:27.13 | Yssaril | binder: get a broker plugin for bazooka instead of trying to shoehorn a fubar plugin into broker |
| 03:34.02 | Primer | Ok, I have a guildy on a level 1 trial account claiming that his toon, who's been parked in Setthek Halls for 12 hours, is a hacker |
| 03:34.07 | Primer | and he has authenticator |
| 03:34.13 | Primer | how the fuck does that happen? |
| 03:34.59 | Torhal | What the hell would a hacker get out of SH anyway? |
| 03:35.01 | Torhal | Hehe |
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| 03:35.13 | Primer | I don't know |
| 03:35.35 | pompy2 | the mount? lol |
| 03:35.37 | quiescens | moo? |
| 03:35.56 | Torhal | pompy2: What did you do with the original pompy? HACKER! |
| 03:36.10 | quiescens | they seem to like sethekk halls for some reason |
| 03:36.26 | quiescens | it seems to be a common occurence |
| 03:36.26 | pompy2 | ~lart Torhal |
| 03:36.26 | purl | judo chops Torhal |
| 03:36.38 | quiescens | so violent ): |
| 03:37.19 | Torhal | shoves pompy2 feet first into an electric-powered meat grinder. |
| 03:37.36 | Torhal | quiescens: That better? |
| 03:37.41 | binder | Yssaril: I haven't found an replacement for fubar_experience otherwise I wouldn't be :/ |
| 03:38.05 | binder | Primer: that's weird you say that |
| 03:38.25 | binder | I had a person in my guild that never talked and was in setthekk halls like 24/7 on his druid |
| 03:38.31 | Primer | ok, so he fessed up |
| 03:38.35 | Primer | he doesn't have authenticator |
| 03:38.55 | Torhal | Primer: Why the fuck would he lie about that? Weird dude. |
| 03:39.07 | Primer | indeed |
| 03:39.18 | Primer | so it seems the dude's still logged in...in SH...idle |
| 03:39.36 | Torhal | Can't be truly idle or he'd be force-disconnected |
| 03:41.21 | Primer | right |
| 03:41.29 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r120 / (2 files in 1 directory): Improved resizing. |
| 03:41.31 | Repo | Fixed some tool tips not being styled correctly. |
| 03:42.55 | Torhal | binder: Xparky? |
| 03:43.26 | binder | I'll check it out |
| 03:43.36 | binder | I've been searching curse client for "xp" "experience" |
| 03:44.38 | binder | nope |
| 03:45.24 | Primer | hrmm, recently a few people have reported being hacked...one thing in common they have: gmail.com accounts on their battle.net real id |
| 03:45.41 | binder | I do, but I have an iphone |
| 03:46.43 | Torhal | Primer: My GF quit about a year ago. Around six months ago, her Mage was logged in at Borean Tundra. |
| 03:46.46 | Torhal | No gmail account |
| 03:47.05 | Torhal | They had added an authenticator to her account, too. Bastards. |
| 03:47.55 | Primer | ok, he's just confirmed that someone accessed his gmail from a remote location |
| 03:49.40 | kagaro | is the mental training quest broken? |
| 03:51.33 | pompy2 | are u using the action bar? |
| 03:51.38 | pompy2 | i fell for that at first too |
| 03:51.48 | kagaro | my bar doesnt switch |
| 03:51.58 | pompy2 | hmm |
| 03:57.38 | kagaro | ya bars dont switch i filed a bug, but then again I also cant train the new spells form the trainer either |
| 03:57.56 | pompy2 | did u try the quest b4 today? |
| 03:59.11 | kagaro | no |
| 04:03.08 | pompy2 | blizzard gave me a free ride the last 40% xp through level 81.. weird. |
| 04:03.26 | Primer | it seems I had the story wrong. The hacker ADDED authenticator to his account! |
| 04:03.56 | Primer | and the blizz person he talked to forgot to remove it... |
| 04:04.07 | kagaro | ya pompy some poepl have posted it doesnt work, im guessing its a bugged for some people |
| 04:04.49 | kagaro | ill check tommarrow im heading to bed |
| 04:04.50 | pompy2 | kagaro: when i first started the quest, i kept dieing bc my eyes didnt focus that there was sa new action bar u had to use :) |
| 04:04.58 | pompy2 | night |
| 04:07.00 | Torhal | Primer: Yeah, that's the new thing they do to try to stall for more time. |
| 04:07.02 | Primer | wow, and now blizz is closed |
| 04:07.05 | Primer | and they can't do anything |
| 04:07.12 | Torhal | Urk. |
| 04:07.22 | Primer | they changed the email and password, but didn't remove the authenticator or log the dude out |
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| 04:09.44 | arkanes | beta keys still not fixed :( |
| 04:10.03 | arkanes | tomorrow! |
| 04:10.27 | Primer | yeah, I just tried mine again just now |
| 04:14.20 | DesertDwarf | JunkDrop-LDB will (kinda obviously) need to have JunkDrop.lua loaded (separate addon). In my JunkDrop-LDB.toc, do I want to list JunkDrop-LDB.lua and JunkDrop.lua in a particular order or will it not matter? |
| 04:15.54 | orionshock | DesertDwarf, order maters |
| 04:16.25 | orionshock | DesertDwarf, if JunkDrop-LDB.lua makes any reference to JunkDrop.lua then you want it to load after. |
| 04:16.47 | DesertDwarf | Other addon first and then the LDB. OK, that's what I was suspecting. |
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| 04:17.31 | orionshock | load order always matters. you don't want to load a file that makes reference to a file loaded after it |
| 04:19.11 | DesertDwarf | orionshock: Thanks. |
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| 04:42.14 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r106 ComboPointsRedux.toc: -add AddonLoader support |
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| 05:27.10 | sbu | oh |
| 05:27.20 | sbu | guild ui working now!? |
| 05:27.59 | sbu | hm no... |
| 05:28.02 | Megalon | yes |
| 05:28.07 | Megalon | no? :o |
| 05:28.19 | sbu | i cant see it |
| 05:28.31 | Megalon | it is there though ;o |
| 05:29.37 | quiescens | maybe you're just seeing things |
| 05:30.49 | Torhal | I see many things. |
| 05:32.51 | sbu | you have to click on the social button, keybinding doesnt work :p |
| 05:33.09 | Fisker | i disagee sbu |
| 05:33.18 | Fisker | if it can't support more than 500 players it doesn't work |
| 05:33.20 | Fisker | period. |
| 05:33.31 | quiescens | kick people |
| 05:33.58 | Fisker | bitch |
| 05:36.07 | Torhal | Fisker: Release the hounds! |
| 05:36.35 | Megalon | but he is already released Torhal |
| 05:39.11 | Megalon | pompy: i know why you had the XP boost |
| 05:39.28 | Megalon | 80>81 is 1,6M now, instead of 3M |
| 05:39.51 | quiescens | hax |
| 05:40.10 | Megalon | indeed |
| 05:42.03 | Torhal | Megalon: I tried to tell him that, but was told "no, dude" so I just nodded and smiled. |
| 05:42.19 | quiescens | smiles and nods. |
| 05:44.28 | Megalon | oh |
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| 05:49.46 | Repo | 10character-notes: 03talryn1 04v0.4 * r6 : Tagging as v0.4 |
| 05:53.03 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r42 LKAnnounce.lua: |
| 05:53.05 | Repo | Fixed a bug which kept Plague tracking announcements from being properly downgraded from RAID_WARNING to RAID. Again. |
| 05:53.06 | Repo | Battle-tested with a Heroic Lich King 25 kill! |
| 05:56.13 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn 041.0 * r43 : Tagging as 1.0 |
| 06:11.37 | sbu | Fiskers Megalon |
| 06:12.21 | Megalon | hawt |
| 06:13.01 | Fisker | looks like the blizzcon stream page will be up soon as well |
| 06:13.22 | Torhal | Lies. |
| 06:13.23 | sbu | oh, $$$ |
| 06:13.36 | sbu | i dont want to buy 2 streams again... *sigh* :p |
| 06:17.05 | Fisker | 2 streams? |
| 06:18.31 | Fisker | fucks up sbu |
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| 06:21.56 | Repo | 10guild-search: 03talryn1 * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): Initial version |
| 06:24.01 | sbu | Fisker: yup... because gf is like "giev pet!!!" ;) |
| 06:25.12 | Fisker | she can pay her own shit |
| 06:30.10 | Megalon | indeed |
| 06:30.40 | Torhal | No money, no honey Fisker |
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| 07:02.34 | Primer | Anyone the addon that reports "Healing and Absorbs for _charactername_"? |
| 07:03.00 | Primer | in a recount-like fashion? |
| 07:03.03 | Torhal | Primer: Recount? |
| 07:03.09 | Primer | I saw some output like that recently |
| 07:03.15 | Primer | I can't find it in recount for the life of me |
| 07:03.18 | Torhal | I believe there's a Recount module for that |
| 07:03.23 | sbu | recount + skada module |
| 07:03.26 | sbu | + = or |
| 07:03.31 | Wobin | recount guessed + absorbs |
| 07:03.48 | Primer | So what is it? |
| 07:03.54 | Torhal | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/recounthealandabsorbs.aspx |
| 07:03.58 | Torhal | Google FTW |
| 07:04.05 | Torhal | I don't use Recount |
| 07:04.06 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 07:04.12 | Torhal | Or any damage meter, come to thinnk of it |
| 07:04.14 | Wobin | LetMeTorhalThatForYou.com |
| 07:04.19 | Torhal | Haha |
| 07:04.34 | Torhal | I also have a penchant for obscure knowledge |
| 07:04.43 | Torhal | ...since I knew that existed before I Googled |
| 07:04.49 | Wobin | Torhal: it's the disc shields that a lot of the damage meters don't measure by default |
| 07:04.58 | Wobin | oh so did I, I use it, for one =) |
| 07:05.02 | Torhal | Hah |
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| 07:21.49 | asmodai | Wobin: That's a better site suggest than LetMeFiskerYou.com |
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| 07:51.50 | vhaarr | anyone else having problems validating game version on beta login? |
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| 08:10.55 | Megalon | vhaarr: you have to edit the file again |
| 08:11.02 | vhaarr | ah damn |
| 08:12.09 | vhaarr | yeah works now *headdesk* |
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| 08:23.35 | Repo | 108e188: Fix "Glyph of Raise Dead" showing it was obtained from Northrend Inscription Research when it's really from Minor Inscription Research. |
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| 08:37.29 | Repo | 10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r7 / (5 files in 1 directory): Added minimap icon option |
| 08:42.55 | Repo | 10character-notes: 03talryn1 04v0.5 * r8 : Tagging as v0.5 |
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| 08:55.47 | asmodai | Bibi: on wowtal.com - Shaman's Convection has a broken icon. Not a caching issue. |
| 08:56.43 | Bibi | yeah well |
| 08:56.46 | Bibi | maybe you re a broken icon |
| 08:57.57 | asmodai | :( |
| 08:58.14 | asmodai | Bibi: Is this how you treat me? Even after I sent you love on the reddit AMA thread? </3 |
| 08:59.05 | asmodai | sniffs and scratches Bibi from his Christmas card list |
| 09:01.10 | Bibi | there, uploading, will be fixed in a min |
| 09:01.37 | asmodai | Bibi: Cool, thanks. |
| 09:02.00 | asmodai | wonders if db.mmoc will replace/augment wowdb.com ;) |
| 09:03.05 | Bibi | didn't discuss it |
| 09:03.15 | Bibi | Adys is away for one more week |
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| 09:04.17 | asmodai | Bibi: But I reckon you must be a happy camper. ^^ |
| 09:04.56 | asmodai | Bibi: Thanks, works now btw. |
| 09:04.58 | Bibi | not yet |
| 09:05.04 | Bibi | there is a shitload of work to stabilize everything |
| 09:05.12 | Bibi | trust me, beta builds still make me cry |
| 09:05.43 | asmodai | Bibi: as a beta tester it is also making me cry. |
| 09:06.11 | Kalroth | I'm not a beta tester and I cry because of that |
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| 09:11.39 | Repo | 10guild-search: 03talryn1 * r3 / (5 files in 1 directory): Added minimap button |
| 09:12.24 | Fisker | slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:18.14 | asmodai | Bibi: But what causes you to lie awake at night due to the beta builds? |
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| 09:30.56 | harl | wuff |
| 09:31.13 | asmodai | arf? |
| 09:31.26 | harl | rawr |
| 09:31.44 | asmodai | arufff! |
| 09:32.55 | harl | nods. |
| 09:33.07 | Repo | 10priorityqueue: 03NeonKnightmare * r69 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 09:33.09 | Repo | PriorityQueue: |
| 09:33.10 | Repo | PriorityQueue.lua: |
| 09:33.11 | Repo | - Added self-event detection code for time since player last dodged, parried, or blocked an attack. |
| 09:33.12 | Repo | - Factored self-event reset code into its own function. |
| 09:39.30 | quiescens | moo |
| 10:02.42 | sbu | yay <3 blizzard |
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| 10:03.03 | sbu | shop was broken yesterday when i tried to order starcraft1 multiple times |
| 10:03.19 | sbu | but they charged my credit card every time (8x 14.99).... |
| 10:03.45 | Fisker | slaps sbu around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:03.47 | Fisker | ownt |
| 10:03.53 | Fisker | why did you buy starcraft 1 jerk? |
| 10:04.52 | sbu | why not? |
| 10:04.54 | sbu | its fun |
| 10:05.08 | Fisker | it's 14.99 |
| 10:05.12 | sbu | so? |
| 10:05.20 | sbu | SC2 is 40eur |
| 10:05.23 | Fisker | You could just as well have bought the SC2 CE |
| 10:05.40 | sbu | hm i could change my amazon order |
| 10:05.42 | sbu | from normal to ce |
| 10:06.07 | Fisker | don't bother with that |
| 10:06.11 | Fisker | amazon overbooks anyway |
| 10:06.24 | sbu | mh? |
| 10:06.34 | Fisker | selling more copies than they have |
| 10:06.37 | sbu | dont think so |
| 10:06.57 | Fisker | oh they do |
| 10:07.02 | sbu | ah nevermind |
| 10:07.11 | sbu | cant cancel anymore |
| 10:07.13 | Fisker | you got SC1 already anyway :P |
| 10:07.28 | sbu | because its they are already preparing for shipping |
| 10:07.39 | Fisker | amazon? |
| 10:07.43 | sbu | yea |
| 10:08.19 | Fisker | would've punked you if you bought SC1 boxed from Blizzard |
| 10:08.33 | sbu | why should i do that? |
| 10:08.38 | Fisker | exactly |
| 10:09.10 | sbu | but SC2 amazon is like 40 eur - blizz digital download is 60 eur |
| 10:09.17 | Fisker | of course |
| 10:15.26 | Fisker | slaps sbu around a bit with a large trout |
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| 12:22.02 | sbu | oh |
| 12:22.27 | sbu | SC2 delivery tomorrow, i think i should preorder cataclysm there.. thats fast :p |
| 12:25.03 | Fisker | rage sbu |
| 12:25.07 | Megalon | hehe, mine got shipped one hour ago too :) |
| 12:25.27 | Fisker | i hate you all |
| 12:25.45 | Megalon | how about telling us something we don't know |
| 12:25.47 | Megalon | fiskerino |
| 12:25.54 | Fisker | and it looks like mine will arrive at tuesday at the earliest |
| 12:26.05 | Fisker | because if it doesn't ship today they'll have to use monday, tuesday, etc. on packing |
| 12:26.10 | Fisker | They can't pack all preorders in one day |
| 12:26.34 | Fisker | so with my luck i'll probably have it sometime in 2011 |
| 12:26.48 | Fisker | wtf |
| 12:27.02 | Fisker | why did they just reduce the exp requirements by a half? :P |
| 12:27.22 | sbu | they did not |
| 12:27.26 | sbu | well they did for 80 > 81 |
| 12:27.35 | Fisker | sweet for me |
| 12:27.42 | Fisker | since they let me keep the experience |
| 12:27.50 | Megalon | 83>84 got lowered to |
| 12:27.50 | sbu | but 82 > 83 and 83 > 84 is more actually |
| 12:27.54 | Fisker | 81 to 82 as well |
| 12:27.55 | sbu | it is? |
| 12:28.02 | Megalon | >84 was ~7.6 |
| 12:28.03 | Fisker | because i am level 81 |
| 12:28.09 | Fisker | and i needed 4 million for 82 |
| 12:28.09 | Megalon | now it shows me 6.5 |
| 12:28.13 | Fisker | now i need 1,7 |
| 12:28.15 | Megalon | but i heard >83 is 6.2 |
| 12:28.21 | Megalon | but is was 5.7 before |
| 12:28.22 | sbu | Megalon: yup, thats why i'm thinking about amazon preorder for cataclysm :p |
| 12:31.10 | Megalon | yea, quite nice |
| 12:31.25 | Megalon | best would be if blizzard store just had prices like amazon |
| 12:32.07 | sbu | yup |
| 12:32.20 | sbu | digital download > * :p |
| 12:32.25 | Megalon | or at least less then the stores |
| 12:32.34 | sbu | thats why i like direct2drive.co.uk |
| 12:32.37 | Megalon | i was like wtf when i saw digital download was also 60⬠|
| 12:32.39 | sbu | buy + download = win ;) |
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| 12:33.13 | Megalon | Fisker, level teh guild |
| 12:33.19 | Megalon | i want 5% mountspeed |
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| 12:36.56 | Fisker | i generally want the guild experience to work |
| 12:37.17 | Fisker | ok i like how my game crashed |
| 12:37.23 | Fisker | i sent the crash popup |
| 12:37.27 | Fisker | and then it brought me back to the game |
| 12:37.32 | Fisker | and it had only disconnected from server |
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| 12:48.57 | kagaro | rofl add new spells to beta.. trainer dont work .. win! |
| 12:50.04 | phyber | Fisker: i see you posting about new functions on the beta forum. you generate a diff yourself or do you have a link to a site with diffs? |
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| 12:50.04 | Megalon | they were just added to tease you |
| 12:50.11 | phyber | can't download patch yet to look himself |
| 12:50.15 | phyber | /sadface |
| 12:53.12 | Fisker | i use notepad phyber |
| 12:53.26 | phyber | hardcore. |
| 12:53.38 | Megalon | a useful post by Fisker |
| 12:53.44 | Megalon | it has to be |
| 12:53.45 | Megalon | omg |
| 12:53.50 | Megalon | THE LANGOLIERS ARE ATTACKING |
| 12:54.47 | kagaro | lies! link or it didnt happen |
| 12:55.10 | Fisker | dick Megalon |
| 12:57.44 | Megalon | pix or gtfo |
| 12:58.23 | sbu | whats with those new armor buffs |
| 12:58.27 | sbu | are they in yet? |
| 12:58.36 | sbu | (clothies get 5% bonus from wearing cloth etc.) |
| 12:59.04 | arkanes | mmo-champ needs to set up a Fisker tracker |
| 13:00.50 | Zyn | LANGOLIERS?! |
| 13:01.10 | Zyn | hides in a corner, and slowly tears sheets of paper apart, and rolls his eyes back |
| 13:06.11 | sbu | meh, 3M xp was just fine |
| 13:06.36 | sbu | its way too fast now |
| 13:09.43 | arkanes | bah I don't like the new prot pally tree :( |
| 13:09.55 | arkanes | proc effects all tied to our AOE abilities? |
| 13:10.32 | sbu | wah! cant learn mindspike :o |
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| 13:20.14 | Fisker | arkanes is a fisker tracker |
| 13:25.00 | Stanzilla | fisker |
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| 13:26.26 | Fisker | denied Stanzilla |
| 13:28.08 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 13:28.42 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 13:29.30 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 13:29.57 | steev | Fisker: 23. |
| 13:30.07 | steev | yes, that number hasn't changed, i love my luck |
| 13:31.16 | Fisker | :3 |
| 13:33.22 | steev | although we only did 2 bosses |
| 13:33.30 | Fisker | i steev u |
| 13:33.32 | steev | pp normal, and dreamwalker heroic |
| 13:33.37 | arkanes | graaah where is my xcode 4 download |
| 13:33.41 | steev | then we attempted princes twice |
| 13:33.46 | steev | arkanes: developer.apple.com |
| 13:33.51 | arkanes | steev: it's not up :( |
| 13:34.04 | steev | then go to developer.apple.com |
| 13:34.21 | arkanes | there's no download, is what I'm saying |
| 13:34.29 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 13:34.30 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (5h 36m 13s) #wowace (5h 36m 13s) #curseforge (5h 36m 13s), last said: 'I should fix that'. |
| 13:34.31 | Stanzilla | sbu: yeah that's annoying :( |
| 13:34.38 | Fisker | i will find you Antiarc |
| 13:35.47 | Stanzilla | sbu: and shadow orbs are missing, too |
| 13:36.35 | sbu | errr Megalon |
| 13:37.06 | steev | arkanes: grab the iOS 4.0.1 sdk? i dunno |
| 13:40.03 | Fisker | bitches Stanzilla |
| 13:41.33 | sbu | urg wtf stat-decay.-.. |
| 13:42.52 | Stanzilla | Fisker: yeah wtb |
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| 13:44.06 | Fisker | naw Stanzilla |
| 13:44.06 | Fisker | robokitty |
| 13:44.06 | Fisker | BRR |
| 13:44.24 | Stanzilla | love my pala wings http://i.imgur.com/5nMXj.jpg |
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| 13:46.37 | arkanes | Stanzilla: thats archangel? |
| 13:48.39 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 13:50.57 | harl | why is it that this whole thing that's supposed to create multiple auctions with one click isn't working at all and blizzard doesn't seem to bother? |
| 13:51.01 | sbu | arkanes: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_eXcGpUxDdAQ/TESYx8QmMOI/AAAAAAAABUw/ZRkmg31rJM4/s1280/WoWScrnShot_071910_185325.jpg |
| 13:52.11 | arkanes | sbu: its a well known fact that healing is about BRIGHT SHINIES |
| 13:52.22 | arkanes | and for that reason I approve of that talent |
| 13:52.35 | sbu | yup :p |
| 13:52.48 | arkanes | I still think it's a better talent for holy than disc though |
| 13:53.01 | sbu | *shrug* |
| 13:53.10 | arkanes | surge of light |
| 13:53.38 | harl | spooge of light |
| 13:53.42 | sbu | stat decay: 80: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_eXcGpUxDdAQ/TEktOvjtsBI/AAAAAAAABWk/vh6dwcQAlJ4/s1280/WoWScrnShot_072310_074815.jpg 81: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_eXcGpUxDdAQ/TEmbV2WVuRI/AAAAAAAABXY/bbEPjDu28aY/s1280/WoWScrnShot_072310_153758.jpg |
| 13:54.16 | arkanes | sbu: you've got 50% more haste |
| 13:54.36 | sbu | more? |
| 13:54.41 | arkanes | oh you linked them backwards |
| 13:54.50 | arkanes | or I opened them backwards or something |
| 13:54.54 | sbu | yes you did :p |
| 13:55.08 | arkanes | yeah the decay is pretty brutal |
| 13:55.30 | Repo | 10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r56 Modules/Options.lua: Fixed bug 17 |
| 13:55.43 | sbu | +200 spellpower is also "wtf" :p |
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| 14:22.20 | harl | i would prefer that leveling was much harder instead of raids continuing to be a pain in the ass for healers and tanks. |
| 14:22.51 | harl | stat decay also sucks in relation to that, it's just bad and that's it. |
| 14:25.49 | lozon | Immutable String question: Using a string variable but assigning a new value 1000's of time would take a hit on performance, but StringBuilder does not allow re-assignment...anyway way to make a String mutable? |
| 14:27.30 | lozon | wow, wrong channel, lmao |
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| 16:52.08 | sbu | meh, dont play with "HostMan" on win7 ;) |
| 16:52.15 | sbu | HostsMan even |
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| 16:53.07 | flexd | nekoh: oh |
| 16:54.26 | flexd | I can't find a table#append() though |
| 16:54.29 | flexd | just insert hrm |
| 16:54.43 | flexd | oh nvm |
| 16:57.25 | flexd | nekoh: i thought it would just append to L.enUS |
| 17:01.26 | nekoh | yeah well it doesn't ;P |
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| 17:18.39 | flexd | silly hrm |
| 17:18.55 | flexd | World of Warcraft Ruby API |
| 17:18.58 | flexd | That would be awesome |
| 17:19.00 | flexd | Gogo blizzard :-) |
| 17:19.10 | flexd | Anyhow |
| 17:20.19 | flexd | hrm, this addon coding business is putting a serious dent in my XP gain per day... perhaps i should wait until im 80 heh |
| 17:21.07 | Zyn | 80 years old |
| 17:21.11 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/answerbot/. AnswerBot. Azxiana (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 17:21.16 | nevcairiel | leveling is overrated |
| 17:21.24 | flexd | yea |
| 17:21.32 | flexd | and i don't think cataclysm is coming that soon |
| 17:21.40 | flexd | i'm 76, just want to be 80 before TBC |
| 17:21.41 | flexd | err |
| 17:21.42 | flexd | cata |
| 17:21.44 | nevcairiel | next week, actually |
| 17:21.49 | flexd | what ? |
| 17:22.00 | nevcairiel | jk =P |
| 17:22.05 | flexd | heh |
| 17:22.10 | flexd | Not like i couldn't make it in time anyway :P |
| 17:22.27 | flexd | anyhow |
| 17:22.37 | flexd | err, i say that a lot don't i. |
| 17:23.24 | flexd | What is the proper protocol for finding a addon thats horrible coded and 1200+ lines and fixing it down to 196~Â lines or less plus making it a whole lot better? :P |
| 17:23.55 | ulic | flexd: you could code until you reach full rest, then level, rinse and repeat. |
| 17:24.36 | flexd | heh |
| 17:24.37 | flexd | good plan |
| 17:24.52 | ulic | that way you're at least levelling efficently |
| 17:28.27 | flexd | Hrm |
| 17:28.48 | flexd | Maybe i should just go back to using L["Profession_skinning_0"] for instance |
| 17:28.54 | flexd | No need for the categories? |
| 17:29.05 | flexd | except that will screw up the plan hm |
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| 17:30.47 | flexd | perhaps i can ask some advice from you guys: If you needed to load a lot of text into your addon, how would you do it ? |
| 17:31.03 | vhaarr | depends how much "a lot" is |
| 17:31.18 | vhaarr | and how it would be used, when it would be used, et |
| 17:31.18 | vhaarr | c |
| 17:31.26 | vhaarr | basically, don't worry |
| 17:31.55 | vhaarr | what problem are you having now? |
| 17:32.35 | flexd | "a lot" is about the amount of text you would need to write a 1-450 guide for every profession |
| 17:33.27 | flexd | The texts for each profession would only be used for those chaacters that have it.. Can't read the guide for enchanting if you do not have it. |
| 17:33.31 | nevcairiel | just put it in some dedicated file, using multiline string tokens, should be fine |
| 17:33.41 | vhaarr | yeah it's fine |
| 17:34.11 | vhaarr | if you were a nazi and want to make life hard for your users with regards to managing your addon, you can put every profession in a dedicated load-on-demand addon separate from the "core" |
| 17:34.22 | vhaarr | and someone is bound to recommend that here |
| 17:34.31 | nevcairiel | that time is kinda over |
| 17:34.32 | vhaarr | but fuck them, do what nev said |
| 17:34.45 | flexd | yeah i have each profession in a dedicated file |
| 17:34.54 | vhaarr | then why are you creating a problem that doesn't exist |
| 17:34.57 | vhaarr | does your addon work now? |
| 17:35.02 | flexd | and multiline string tokens (if that is [[Â text ]])Â |
| 17:35.03 | flexd | Heh no |
| 17:35.06 | vhaarr | then fix that |
| 17:35.31 | sbu | Fisker |
| 17:35.32 | flexd | The problem arose when i decided it would be nice to use the same metatable for localized strings for the entire addon, not just profession guides |
| 17:35.57 | vhaarr | flexd: use AceLocale-3.0 for the actual localization |
| 17:36.11 | sbu | Fisker Fisker Fisker! |
| 17:36.22 | vhaarr | and maybe the wowace project localization app |
| 17:38.33 | flexd | ah |
| 17:38.49 | flexd | Don't see why i didn't think to check if there was a library for this |
| 17:39.02 | flexd | Reinventing the wheel is not needed :/ |
| 17:39.23 | nevcairiel | all the really common tasks are covered here |
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| 17:40.20 | flexd | ooh |
| 17:40.23 | flexd | I sense a rewrite coming :-) |
| 17:40.34 | vhaarr | don't rewrite |
| 17:40.44 | vhaarr | make it work first, then rewrite |
| 17:40.55 | Repo | 10wtetrinet (experimental): 03slaren * r15 / (30 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
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| 17:40.59 | Repo | - Added options UI with configurable controls and some other options |
| 17:41.00 | Repo | - Improved key handling |
| 17:41.00 | flexd | Yea but the basic functionality work |
| 17:41.01 | Repo | - Show icon on the game leader |
| 17:41.02 | Repo | - Sounds effects converted from WAV to MP3 to save some space |
| 17:41.08 | flexd | The entire problem lies with the localization/metatable |
| 17:41.13 | vhaarr | you don't need any other libs to use AceLocale-3.0 |
| 17:41.17 | vhaarr | the metatable you have is fine |
| 17:41.33 | vhaarr | use AL3 for localization and set up the web application for translations |
| 17:41.42 | vhaarr | (I assume your project is on wowace) |
| 17:41.55 | flexd | No, since i am editing someone elses horribly coded project. |
| 17:42.05 | flexd | Good idea, 1300 lines of code did less than what i have done now in 196~ |
| 17:42.22 | vhaarr | how long since the original author updated it? |
| 17:42.28 | vhaarr | and is the original hosted on wowace? |
| 17:42.29 | flexd | june |
| 17:42.34 | flexd | its on curse atleast, hold on |
| 17:42.48 | vhaarr | june, haha |
| 17:42.49 | flexd | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/professional/ |
| 17:43.04 | flexd | I sent him a PM a few days ago, no reply |
| 17:43.23 | flexd | Which was basically me saying 'I improved your stuff', and a link to github where i have the source |
| 17:43.42 | vhaarr | license is "All Rights Reserved", which means you can't do anything without explicit permission |
| 17:43.48 | flexd | >_< |
| 17:44.02 | flexd | New name and new guides could work though |
| 17:44.12 | flexd | It's not like the concept is trademarked |
| 17:44.21 | vhaarr | it's too late for that really |
| 17:44.29 | vhaarr | everyone in this channel knows now that your addon is based on his |
| 17:44.33 | flexd | yea |
| 17:44.33 | vhaarr | you need his permission |
| 17:44.43 | flexd | Yep |
| 17:44.47 | flexd | I hope he replies then |
| 17:44.56 | flexd | also, 'based on' |
| 17:45.00 | flexd | that doesn't describe it |
| 17:45.06 | vhaarr | remake |
| 17:45.18 | flexd | yea, the only thing that actually remains from his version is the .xml file |
| 17:45.23 | vhaarr | doesn't matter how you say it, the essence remains |
| 17:45.34 | flexd | anyhow |
| 17:45.42 | flexd | i'm going to play with basing it on ace3 stuff |
| 17:45.47 | flexd | while i wait for him to return |
| 17:45.57 | flexd | and if he doesn't say yes i'll just make something else |
| 17:46.05 | vhaarr | there's lots of tutorials on wowace for it |
| 17:46.11 | flexd | Or make it for myself and keep it private, i just wanted a working app to begin with |
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| 17:46.22 | vhaarr | the libraries, that is |
| 17:46.33 | flexd | The version he has doesn't recognize professions properly, and only when the professsion window is open. That was the cause for me to work on it :/ |
| 17:46.38 | flexd | awesome, i'll read there |
| 17:46.40 | vhaarr | and if you are looking for a project, all projects on wowace.com are open by default with free commit access |
| 17:46.53 | vhaarr | and require the use of a source code repository |
| 17:47.11 | vhaarr | whileas curseforge.com is closed by default and allows projects without a repository (direct ZIP uploads of releases) |
| 17:47.13 | flexd | cool |
| 17:47.33 | vhaarr | my name is Rabbit, and you can take any of my addons and start committing freely |
| 17:47.39 | vhaarr | on wowace, that is |
| 17:48.51 | vhaarr | being on wowace does not require one to use any of the libraries either, just to clear that up |
| 17:48.56 | vhaarr | but they are useful in many cases |
| 17:49.04 | vhaarr | bbl |
| 17:49.56 | flexd | yea seems great |
| 17:49.58 | flexd | thanks |
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| 18:03.09 | Repo | - Stop/start music if the setting is changed during a game |
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| 18:41.49 | asmodai | WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEND |
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| 18:48.29 | Repo | 10wtetrinet (experimental): 03slaren * r17 Options.lua: - Fix repeat rate option step amount |
| 18:49.10 | stolenlegacy | Kaelten: ping |
| 18:49.36 | asmodai | Kaelten: Nice, python-dev talk on research being done on PhD level wrt Python interpretive optimizations. |
| 18:49.40 | Repo | 10guild-search: 03talryn1 04v0.1 * r4 : Tagging as v0.1 |
| 18:49.55 | Kaelten | stolenlegacy: pong |
| 18:49.57 | Kaelten | asmodai: neat |
| 18:50.14 | asmodai | Kaelten: Yeah, working code too :) |
| 18:50.22 | asmodai | Kaelten: Which apparently unladen swallow can leverage. |
| 18:50.25 | asmodai | Good times. |
| 18:50.46 | stolenlegacy | Kaelten, ordered a author beta key and got my order confirmed, but didn't get the mail containing the key - think windows live mail filtered it as spam and deleted it right away |
| 18:50.53 | stolenlegacy | think you can re-send the key to another mail of mine? |
| 18:51.09 | Kaelten | stolenlegacy: /home/item-codes/ iirc |
| 18:51.18 | Kaelten | it's retrievable on the website |
| 18:51.25 | Kaelten | asmodai: very nice |
| 18:51.40 | Kaelten | playing around with a new toy atm |
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| 18:53.09 | Kaelten | and I'll have to say, I'm really digging with what they did to the ide |
| 18:57.15 | flexd | Uh perhaps this is a stupid question |
| 18:57.52 | flexd | But do i need to actually have a copy of each Ace3 addon/lib i use within my addons folder ? Or can i just automagically use them from the Ace3 folder i have in my Addons folder ? |
| 18:58.00 | flexd | Using LibStub from the tutorial |
| 18:58.41 | durcyn | as long as it's loaded somewhere in the dep tree, you're covered |
| 18:59.12 | flexd | Yea but how would i load them, using embeds.xml for instance |
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| 18:59.29 | flexd | Seems i need to specify a direct path to the lib |
| 18:59.31 | Kaelten | flexd: during development it's more than fine to just have Ace3 running standalone. But when you deploy you should actually embed them |
| 18:59.42 | flexd | Kk |
| 18:59.47 | flexd | will just embed from the start then |
| 18:59.48 | durcyn | either a toc reference, an xml <Script> reference, or an OptionalDep / RequiredDep to an addon that loads it. |
| 18:59.52 | flexd | Or just make a symlink while im developing |
| 19:00.09 | durcyn | or both, as the case may be. |
| 19:00.46 | flexd | so i could just do RequiredDep Ace3 in the toc and it should be good for development? |
| 19:01.02 | profalbert | OptionalDep should be enough |
| 19:01.04 | durcyn | no, Optional |
| 19:01.14 | flexd | oh |
| 19:01.15 | durcyn | Required will prevent your addon from loading if the user runs fully embedded |
| 19:01.16 | flexd | okay |
| 19:01.30 | durcyn | whereas Optional just fixes the load order |
| 19:02.15 | flexd | Right |
| 19:05.42 | Stanzilla | anyone else having problems with chrome 6.0.472.0 not loading pages? |
| 19:06.30 | durcyn | 6.0.472.4 is working fine on osx here, check your proxy settings |
| 19:07.07 | Stanzilla | I'm not using one |
| 19:07.55 | durcyn | that would be shorthand for "hey, maybe you have some kind of overly helpful security software or particularly malicious compromise that is changing them, why not take a peek to make sure" |
| 19:08.29 | Stanzilla | I don't even have a software firewall or antivirus installed :p |
| 19:10.44 | flexd | then check^^ |
| 19:10.44 | Gnarfoz | placebo security software |
| 19:11.24 | quiescens | moo? |
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| 19:11.58 | quiescens | moo |
| 19:12.27 | arkanes | Stanzilla: any page in particular? |
| 19:12.52 | Stanzilla | seems random |
| 19:12.57 | Stanzilla | some neowin threads |
| 19:13.02 | Stanzilla | a youtube video |
| 19:13.12 | durcyn | you didn't say it was intermittent |
| 19:13.14 | arkanes | I just updated about 10 seconds ago |
| 19:13.21 | arkanes | so I guess I'll see |
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| 19:13.53 | Stanzilla | even the chromerelease blog haha |
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| 19:15.25 | flexd | Uh another question. When using AceGUI, what is the actual practise of windows? I assumed it was like this: Create it, then hide/show when needed. But i guess it has to be created/destroyed each time its needed ? |
| 19:15.28 | Stanzilla | works with the latest chromium nightly tho |
| 19:15.36 | Stanzilla | which has the home button removed btw O.o |
| 19:15.37 | Repo | 10guild-search: 03talryn1 * r5 GuildSearch.lua: Verifying the player is in a guild before making any calls |
| 19:16.03 | flexd | And it would be better to have the gui stuff in its own file, but how can i then handle creating/destroying that window from the main file ? |
| 19:16.18 | quiescens | very carefully |
| 19:19.41 | flexd | I see. |
| 19:25.36 | flexd | Well, is there a better way of debugging addons then? |
| 19:35.00 | vhaarr | flexd: debugging what, and you should really learn to use AceEvents, Timer, Addon and Locale before you start with AceGUI |
| 19:35.05 | vhaarr | and AceConfig before AceGUI as well |
| 19:35.23 | flexd | Yea i'm just looking at it, not planning a dive into it |
| 19:35.35 | flexd | But you sort of answered my question did you not? ;) |
| 19:35.36 | vhaarr | understand the concept of "scope" first |
| 19:35.40 | vhaarr | I did? |
| 19:35.44 | vhaarr | I didn't read your question I think |
| 19:36.01 | flexd | I was basically wondering what i would need to understand to use AceGUI |
| 19:36.09 | flexd | and you told me a bunch of things i should learn first. |
| 19:37.39 | vhaarr | basically AceGUI is the most complicated library you could pick |
| 19:37.55 | vhaarr | AceConfig is the primary user of AceGUI, and is a lot easier to learn |
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| 19:39.00 | flexd | Yea |
| 19:39.41 | vhaarr | several addons exist with easy AceConfig examples, like AuraToChat and ErrorMonster, to name some of my own |
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| 19:39.48 | flexd | will read a bit more about lua scoping, basically how i should go about using the same variables in different files. (If use AceAddon to create MyAddon in Core.lua, how it will be accessible or what to do in Whatever.lua) |
| 19:40.06 | vhaarr | exactly, you need to learn that stuff first |
| 19:40.10 | vhaarr | and it's really simple |
| 19:40.11 | Ali1331 | AceAddons are global references |
| 19:40.16 | vhaarr | no they're not |
| 19:40.18 | Ali1331 | damn |
| 19:40.19 | flexd | yea, learning by looking at others code is good |
| 19:40.27 | flexd | Ali1331: slight burn :D |
| 19:41.16 | flexd | uh-oh, I'm getting to the 'i have a shitload of tabs open and now firefox is melting down'-stage of the day |
| 19:42.04 | vhaarr | flexd: do you understand what 'local' means in lua? |
| 19:42.15 | flexd | uh yea i think so |
| 19:42.44 | flexd | whatevervar = "blah" would be for all of the loaded lua files, but local whatever = "wh" would be just for that file ? |
| 19:42.53 | flexd | I'm reading about it on lua-users.org |
| 19:42.54 | flexd | atm |
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| 19:43.51 | vhaarr | let me write a small sample for you |
| 19:45.03 | flexd | a = 1 |
| 19:45.07 | flexd | function foo() |
| 19:45.10 | flexd | b = 2 |
| 19:45.12 | flexd | local c = 3 |
| 19:45.13 | flexd | end |
| 19:45.25 | flexd | b and c are nil before calling foo(), c is nil after calling foo |
| 19:45.29 | vhaarr | can you stop talking |
| 19:45.34 | vhaarr | I am typing |
| 19:45.36 | flexd | ^^ |
| 19:48.18 | vhaarr | http://paste.wowace.com/2256/ |
| 19:49.06 | vhaarr | err |
| 19:49.35 | vhaarr | s/AFTER/BEFORE/ on line 18 |
| 19:50.21 | flexd | yea i understand it |
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| 19:52.00 | vhaarr | note that _G automatically exists in wow addons |
| 19:52.20 | flexd | right, i've used that before |
| 19:52.25 | vhaarr | and anything that is not declared local in the file scope is automatically put in the global scope |
| 19:52.37 | vhaarr | we just like to use _G explicitly |
| 19:53.31 | vhaarr | s/in the file scope// |
| 19:54.49 | flexd | the global scope becomes/is the file scope, if i understand it correctly |
| 19:58.13 | Xinhuan | no you didn't understand it correctly |
| 19:59.05 | nevcairiel | Lua itself doesnt really have a concept of "file scope", a file is just another scope, like it was wrapped in do..end or in a function call |
| 19:59.23 | Xinhuan | any variable without the word "local" in front of it is basically in global scope |
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| 20:00.21 | flexd | yea, i mean the global scope is basically global to the file. So the "file scope" is global as the global scope is the scope of the file? |
| 20:00.25 | Xinhuan | and any variable with the word "local" in front of it, is in the scope of the enclosing do-end block/function/file whichever is applicable |
| 20:00.48 | Xinhuan | global scope and file scope are not the same |
| 20:01.05 | Xinhuan | global scope means ANY and ALL addons can see it |
| 20:01.12 | Xinhuan | from any and all files |
| 20:01.39 | flexd | and local blah = "blah2" limits it to the file/scope |
| 20:01.47 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:01.56 | flexd | Okay |
| 20:01.59 | Xinhuan | it limits it to the scope of the enclosing "thing" |
| 20:02.01 | flexd | Then i understand |
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| 20:02.04 | Xinhuan | where thing could be a block of code |
| 20:02.07 | Xinhuan | or it could be a function |
| 20:02.09 | Xinhuan | or a file |
| 20:02.18 | flexd | yea |
| 20:03.08 | Xinhuan | whenever you reference a variable, Lua looks for it in increasingly larger scopes until global |
| 20:08.17 | flexd | It's not that different from how ruby does it hrm |
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| 20:10.39 | asmodai | hands Xinhuan some cookies |
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| 20:12.06 | flexd | Thanks for all the help, i'll get reading and understanding and coding something now :-) |
| 20:12.35 | flexd | ha, i think i broke lua! |
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| 20:13.13 | asmodai | hands Xinhuan some cookies again |
| 20:13.28 | Xinhuan | alien swarm keeps hardlocking my pc =.= |
| 20:14.28 | asmodai | Xinhuan: :( |
| 20:14.39 | asmodai | I swear, the builtin support in this G19 for WoW is funny |
| 20:19.38 | flexd | wtf |
| 20:20.02 | flexd | I just got a end of subscription email from Warhammer Age of Reckoning |
| 20:20.07 | flexd | I've never played the gma |
| 20:20.08 | flexd | game* |
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| 20:25.04 | flexd | oh well, shit happens when you party naked. |
| 20:27.03 | flexd | ..\AddOns\MyAddon\Something.lua line 3: |
| 20:27.04 | flexd | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.08 | flexd | fun times |
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| 20:31.39 | Ali1331 | o.O |
| 20:34.18 | arkanes | _G is a global |
| 20:34.30 | arkanes | which might have something to do with that |
| 20:36.49 | flexd | yes i know |
| 20:36.58 | flexd | But it shouldn't be nil |
| 20:37.15 | flexd | all the file is doing is |
| 20:37.27 | flexd | http://pastie.org/1057573 |
| 20:37.33 | flexd | Just like vhaarr did in his example |
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| 20:40.08 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 20:40.10 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (12h 41m 53s) #wowace (12h 41m 53s) #curseforge (12h 41m 53s), last said: 'I should fix that'. |
| 20:40.17 | Fisker | i will so much find you Antiarc |
| 20:42.12 | flexd | uh nevermind me. |
| 20:42.43 | koaschten | fisker try gamesurge irc and #elitistjerks ;) |
| 20:48.08 | Fisker | no koaschten |
| 20:48.12 | Fisker | i will not resort to gamesurge |
| 20:48.46 | Fisker | But i will find Antiarc |
| 20:49.21 | AKX | So uh, anyone else having trouble redeeming the beta keys? |
| 20:49.35 | Fisker | everyone is |
| 20:49.38 | AKX | Okay, good. |
| 20:49.49 | AKX | The mail I got this morning said there was problems that may get resolved, but I gather they haven't been resolved then. |
| 20:50.45 | Gnarfoz | AKX: watch this space: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/how-to-queue-for-an-addon-author-cataclysm-beta-key/ |
| 20:51.09 | Gnarfoz | or don't and don't lose your sanity to your F5 key |
| 20:51.22 | AKX | Thank you, Gnarfoz. |
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| 20:57.24 | flexd | okay, un nevermind me. No idea why _G is nil now |
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| 21:03.07 | Ali1331 | try getfenv() instead of getglobal() |
| 21:03.38 | nevcairiel | you dont need to use either |
| 21:03.57 | Ali1331 | true |
| 21:04.08 | flexd | Just a quick question which might be silly related to toc. My main addon file is Core.lua. And a second addon file is called Something.lua (i'm not making anything specific just learning). |
| 21:04.31 | flexd | Something.lua has a function addon:TestMe() Core.lua is going to call that. |
| 21:04.41 | flexd | but addon is made in Core.lua |
| 21:04.48 | flexd | Which should be first loaded in the toc ? |
| 21:05.11 | Ali1331 | core, but make sure TestMe isnt called until the other file has been parsed |
| 21:05.20 | flexd | I'm assuming Core firsty ea |
| 21:05.38 | flexd | TestMe is only being called once, and its in the handler of a /slash command. So not being called hrm |
| 21:05.47 | Ali1331 | Well that will work |
| 21:05.59 | Ali1331 | As long as it isn't called as Core is parsed, as the function doesn't exist then |
| 21:07.42 | flexd | Hrm |
| 21:08.02 | flexd | just removed the local _G = getglobal() and it works |
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| 21:08.16 | nevcairiel | of course it does |
| 21:08.18 | Ali1331 | ye |
| 21:08.27 | vhaarr | that's my bad maybe |
| 21:08.32 | Ali1331 | _G always exists |
| 21:08.33 | vhaarr | if that's what I wrote in the paste |
| 21:08.36 | flexd | yea |
| 21:08.39 | vhaarr | it should be getfenv() |
| 21:08.46 | flexd | But you told me _G always exists anyway |
| 21:08.49 | vhaarr | but like I said after, .. |
| 21:08.50 | vhaarr | exactly |
| 21:08.54 | nevcairiel | its either local _G = getfenv(0) .. or just local _G = _G .. or just nothing at all! |
| 21:08.57 | flexd | so i should have done it |
| 21:09.02 | flexd | yep |
| 21:09.20 | Ali1331 | time for my question, whats the benefit of doing local _G = _G :p |
| 21:09.34 | [Ammo] | you get to hang out with the cool kids |
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| 21:09.43 | vhaarr | there's no benefit |
| 21:09.43 | nevcairiel | its a minor speedup |
| 21:09.46 | [Ammo] | going for such a minor speed improvement your dick shrinks |
| 21:10.03 | [Ammo] | and on that bombshell I head for bed :) |
| 21:10.04 | flexd | Oh, is it uh, good practise to init stuff like MyAddon and other variables i want all files to have accessible in their own file at the very top? and below that have files that do actions requiring those variables ? |
| 21:10.20 | Ali1331 | but doing something like local pairs = _G.pairs is worth it if you call it alot isn't it? |
| 21:10.21 | vhaarr | it's good practice to limit everything to the highest scope possible |
| 21:10.26 | flexd | Talking specifically about things like MyAddon, AceEvent and so on |
| 21:10.32 | vhaarr | Ali1331: "a LOT" being the key word |
| 21:10.40 | vhaarr | like hundreds of time per second |
| 21:11.12 | nevcairiel | i never really understood why people bother to do "local pairs = _G.pairs" when "local pairs = pairs" works as well =P |
| 21:11.43 | Ali1331 | I'm a noob expect silly questions |
| 21:12.23 | vhaarr | you can think of every scope as a table of key+value pairs |
| 21:12.33 | vhaarr | where the key is the variable names or whatever |
| 21:12.37 | Ali1331 | ye |
| 21:12.51 | vhaarr | Lua will traverse (pairs(...)) over every scope down until it finds or doesn't find your variable |
| 21:13.01 | vhaarr | so the closer you have it to home, the faster it will be to access |
| 21:13.19 | Ali1331 | but it really isn't that big of a difference? |
| 21:13.25 | vhaarr | no, it's insignificant |
| 21:13.44 | Ali1331 | Maybe I'll learn this stuff when I get to uni |
| 21:13.58 | vhaarr | the time I just spent typing that to you is more CPU time than anyone in the world will ever spend traversing the scopes for the rest of Luas lifetime |
| 21:19.08 | nevcairiel | the biggest difference is in global lookups, because there it really is a table lookup |
| 21:19.19 | nevcairiel | but locals are fast, no matter how far out the scope is |
| 21:20.12 | nevcairiel | but like said before, only really matters for OnUpdates or other fast timers |
| 21:23.32 | vhaarr | what does NNF and TBR mean in the talent trees; Name Not Finished and To Be Removed? |
| 21:23.49 | Ali1331 | revised? |
| 21:28.08 | asmodai | vhaarr: Revised like Ali1331 says |
| 21:28.29 | vhaarr | okay |
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| 21:30.13 | yoshimo | got the following during the sindragosa encounter: EnsidiaFails\EnsidiaFails.lua line 2118: |
| 21:30.13 | yoshimo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:41.12 | Ali1331 | finally patched the beta up |
| 21:42.18 | yoshimo | did anyone find something like an included librescomm in the cataclysm beta yet? |
| 21:44.03 | nevcairiel | there is just healcomm |
| 21:44.03 | ulic | I haven't been home to check out, how does one obtain an armor specialization? |
| 21:44.08 | nevcairiel | rescomm is in the combatlog :P |
| 21:44.19 | arkanes | there's native healcomm in cata? |
| 21:44.28 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:44.33 | arkanes | thats pretty spiffy |
| 21:44.42 | nevcairiel | the compact unitframes use it already |
| 21:44.42 | arkanes | I guess I should read the UI forum more often |
| 21:44.43 | nevcairiel | works quite well |
| 21:45.26 | flexd | uh, is there a variable.inspect function in Lua? In ruby i can do puts variable.inspect and i get a neat little display of what the variable contains |
| 21:45.27 | Funkeh` | sweet |
| 21:45.43 | Funkeh` | so ya new steam beta |
| 21:45.46 | Funkeh` | tabbed chat and browsing |
| 21:46.06 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.22 | nevcairiel | eh, i use steam to launch games |
| 21:46.24 | flexd | like so http://pastie.org/1057687 |
| 21:46.36 | flexd | nevcairiel: ditto |
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| 21:47.00 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, the in-game browser |
| 21:47.07 | Funkeh` | and the external chat popups |
| 21:47.14 | nevcairiel | I don't chat with it |
| 21:47.17 | ulic | flexd: in game you can use /dump not sure about lua itself |
| 21:47.20 | nevcairiel | i launch games with it |
| 21:47.21 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 21:47.26 | Funkeh` | you need some steam friends! |
| 21:48.50 | flexd | Why chat on Steam when you have TS/Vent? :D |
| 21:49.55 | koaschten | mumble dude ;( |
| 21:50.16 | flexd | or numble |
| 21:50.17 | flexd | mumble* |
| 21:50.26 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r99 SurgeonGeneral.lua: Initial changes to fix auto-fill functionality. |
| 21:50.31 | flexd | although i have only used it for a short period of time. corp didnt like it :/ |
| 21:50.44 | koaschten | i hate my parents place, i turn my laptop 45° in one direction and my perfect 54mbit link goes down to 2mbit... wlan is so ... thin |
| 21:51.16 | flexd | Make a better antenna |
| 21:51.54 | koaschten | yeah because my laptop has an external antenna plug... think first then speak |
| 21:52.06 | flexd | I improved the coverage of my mobile 3G broadband usb stick thing by making a aluminum foil cone around it. |
| 21:52.14 | Chaoslux | Why chat on Steam when you have IRC <- Fix'T |
| 21:52.14 | flexd | Make a giant cone around your laptop :D |
| 21:52.30 | koaschten | i'll make a cone around you, ok? |
| 21:52.34 | arkanes | you could even make a sort of tube out of the foil that goes to the router |
| 21:52.47 | arkanes | maybe even eventually miniaturize it |
| 21:52.51 | koaschten | with 8 dedicated copper lines in it arkanes? |
| 21:52.56 | arkanes | exactly |
| 21:53.04 | arkanes | better signal propagation than air, right? |
| 21:53.10 | koaschten | who the hell would want to do that? |
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| 22:11.50 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r588 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-phishing update |
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| 22:21.12 | Repo | -Russian Locale & misc bugfixes |
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| 22:48.32 | Repo | 10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky * r97 / (4 files in 2 directories): fixed nil compare in view as percent mode |
| 22:48.34 | Repo | added cached auction price support |
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| 23:01.46 | Ali1331 | ooo guild ui is in |
| 23:01.50 | Ali1331 | didn't notice that |
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| 23:20.17 | vhaarr | Ali1331: yeah it has been since we got beta access I think, we just didn't notice :P |
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| 23:30.40 | Gnarfoz | mehhh |
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| 23:42.07 | Primer | beta key still doesn't work...sigh... |
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| 23:45.45 | Gnarfoz | Primer: and looking at the clock, I don't think they will until monday at the earliest |
| 23:46.06 | Primer | there goes my weekend! |
| 23:47.51 | Gnarfoz | Primer: get some spare F5 keys |
| 23:48.50 | Primer | wtf is F5 |
| 23:50.24 | Gnarfoz | the key between F4 and F6 |
| 23:50.43 | Gnarfoz | you can also get some CTRLs and Rs, if you are so inclined |
| 23:50.53 | Mirrormn | makes your browser page refresh |
| 23:52.26 | Primer | Don't see how F5 applies...considering the key entry thing is ajax |
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