| 00:17.52 | Repo | 10gaintracker: 03Bethink * r7 GainTracker.lua: Proper GetTalentTabInfo() API usage on both 3.3 and 4.0 |
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| 00:20.02 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.2.0 * r304 / (8 files in 6 directories): WoW 4.0 development branch |
| 00:39.32 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.2.0 * r305 Rules/BigWigsDisplay.lua: Fix typo |
| 00:40.00 | Megalon | http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8897/thorns.jpg |
| 00:40.13 | Megalon | thorns are indeed nice, now that they again scale with spellpower :o |
| 00:40.23 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r306 Rules/BigWigsDisplay.lua: Fix typo |
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| 01:10.54 | Parnic | bah, character copy page is down for maintenance? :( |
| 01:11.00 | Parnic | account management, anyway |
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| 01:17.44 | Cyprias | I can't log into the wow forums. :( |
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| 01:42.37 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r573 modules (16 files in 1 directory): |
| 01:42.39 | Repo | - removed a few old CancelScheduledEvent calls on bars that weren't actually scheduling any repeating timers any more and added a few CancelTimers to modules that weren't previously canceling their scheduled timers |
| 01:42.40 | Repo | - converted CancelScheduledEvent to CancelTimer for modules that are still scheduling repeating timers...not sure why CancelScheduledEvent didn't throw any errors (since i don't see how it exists) but whatever |
| 01:42.42 | Repo | - removed a bunch of "function() self:Thing() end" closures in ScheduleRepeatingTimer calls that didn't need to be there |
| 01:44.32 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03Raelea * r464 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 01:44.34 | Repo | VanasKoS: - |
| 01:44.35 | Repo | Basic changes to deal with removal of global this/event/... variables inside event handlers. Also basic changes to deal with removal of getglobal() and setglobal(). See http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626580975&sid=1 |
| 01:44.36 | Repo | Also, changed "this" references in button handlers. Re-enabled the ability to select people from the lists |
| 01:44.37 | Repo | Changed the rest of the "this" references in the code, but none of those changes directly addressed any known bugs. |
| 01:50.55 | Parnic | has anyone ever seen their framerate tank (~1 fps) when selecting a certain group in an AceConfigDialog? |
| 01:51.08 | Parnic | i've narrowed it down to the "order" property on one of my options but i have no idea why |
| 01:51.45 | Cyprias | Parnic: I've seen it when using GatherMate and once in my own addon. I fixed it on my addon by adjusting the size of the frame. =/ |
| 01:51.59 | Parnic | ah, maybe it's a size issue...odd. |
| 01:52.07 | Parnic | i guess that should be reported as a bug, then |
| 01:52.29 | Parnic | yep, that's it |
| 01:52.34 | Parnic | if i make the window slightly wider, it goes away |
| 01:52.35 | Parnic | o_O |
| 01:52.41 | Cyprias | yeah |
| 01:52.43 | Cyprias | odd |
| 01:52.53 | Parnic | i'm gonna at least open a ticket for it because that's just crazy |
| 01:53.21 | Parnic | or just vote on the existing issue :P http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/tickets/165-drastic-fps-loss-under-certain-conditions/ |
| 01:53.58 | Cyprias | +1 |
| 01:57.34 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03Raelea * r465 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 01:57.36 | Repo | The main dropdown for selecting the type of list (Player KoS, Hatelist, Nicelist, etc) was showing the text "Custom" when VanasKoS was first opened. I have no idea where the text was coming from, but disabling these two lines of code seems to fix it and they appear to be redundant. Leaving them commented out for now in case they have negative effects in 3.3 that I didn't find when testing. |
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| 02:01.08 | SqueeG | is anyone having trouble logging into the forums? |
| 02:01.33 | Parnic | yes. that and account mgmt |
| 02:01.47 | Parnic | battle.net actually gives a "down for maintenance" page, the rest just error out |
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| 02:02.09 | Cyprias | SqueeG: me |
| 02:03.35 | SqueeG | any news as to why? |
| 02:04.01 | Parnic | sounds like maintenance of some sort judging from the battle.net page |
| 02:04.56 | SqueeG | =p |
| 02:05.26 | SqueeG | normally there's some reason behind unplanned maintenance |
| 02:05.38 | Parnic | is unaware of it |
| 02:07.55 | Parnic | cyprias: i was thinking about the FPS drop on the options screen and it seems like adjusting the width of the window in code won't be a 100% fix. some people could have just the right UI scale that causes it to happen at any size you choose |
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| 02:09.14 | Cyprias | talk about unlucky. |
| 02:09.33 | Cyprias | those poor people |
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| 02:47.39 | Parnic | is there any way to figure out if an item is soulbound aside from scanning the tooltip text and looking for 'soulbound' ? |
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| 02:52.41 | Repo | a00332c: Throw a hack together for the Hrothgar dailies. |
| 02:52.42 | Repo | b05e986: Add breakfast of champions |
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| 02:57.44 | Parnic | battle.net account login is back. probably other services too |
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| 03:01.44 | VonhintenHOME` | wow http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i1vb34VktwzhrTctR6HaBP2he1AAD9I5AAP02 |
| 03:02.03 | VonhintenHOME` | Pretty soon you won't be able to sell used games, used movies, used books... |
| 03:02.18 | VonhintenHOME` | Fucking corperate america needs to be assraped |
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| 03:08.45 | SqueeG | vonhinten, federal judges need to be replaced :P |
| 03:09.20 | Shefki | First of all the headlines on that case are senationalist. |
| 03:09.28 | Shefki | The case is entirely consistent with the first sale precident. |
| 03:09.51 | Shefki | The people had a contract with AutoDesk that precluded them reselling the software. |
| 03:10.01 | Shefki | If you want to resell something, don't sign a contract that says you can't. |
| 03:10.16 | Shefki | It doesn't change anything. |
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| 03:14.14 | SqueeG | woot for facts |
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| 03:15.53 | VonhintenHOME` | We'll see if it doesn't change anything |
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| 03:18.01 | VonhintenHOME` | I fundamentally have a problem with the idea that because there's a "license" on something I buy, that I can't resell it and transfer my license to someone else |
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| 03:19.38 | SqueeG | <Shefki> The people had a contract with AutoDesk that precluded them reselling the software. |
| 03:19.47 | SqueeG | contract, not license |
| 03:20.42 | VonhintenHOME` | I didn't read anything that stated there was an actual contract |
| 03:20.57 | vhaarr | and anyway, the fact could also have been that the people bought a license to USE the software, and that it's only valid for a particular person |
| 03:21.07 | vhaarr | like, say, a hunting license |
| 03:22.02 | vhaarr | although I don't agree with such practices, it's perfectly sane |
| 03:22.03 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r79 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:22.05 | Repo | When making the changes for the x-53 rocket to stop trying to use it as a ground mount I had to add a new speed classification to cover it. I forgot to update a chunk of code to understand what that classification meant and that appears to cause pokedex to crash. Doh! |
| 03:22.53 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't know if a hunting "license" is the same legal beast that a software "license" is |
| 03:23.14 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil 04Release v3.3.13 * r80 : Tagging as Release v3.3.13 |
| 03:23.40 | vhaarr | nevertheless, the idea is the same |
| 03:24.25 | vhaarr | in some cases, you buy the software, and in other cases, you buy a license to use a piece of software |
| 03:25.07 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't agree with a license applying to what I consider goods |
| 03:25.16 | vhaarr | and if the license states that it's not transferrable, then perhaps you should not have agreed to its terms in the first place |
| 03:25.20 | vhaarr | then don't buy it then |
| 03:25.32 | vhaarr | fuck them and find another piece of software that better fits you |
| 03:26.00 | vhaarr | just because this guy is ignorant, doesn't mean he can violate a license he has agreed to |
| 03:26.57 | VonhintenHOME` | That's the problem, what if everything had a similar license, because it's in the best interest of the company.. if it's possible for everything I buy to be a "license to use" instead of ownership... |
| 03:27.23 | Parnic | sigh. northrend just crashed on my server but everything else is still up |
| 03:27.26 | vhaarr | then you'd have to write new software with a different license |
| 03:27.44 | VonhintenHOME` | What's stopping the auto industry from selling me a license to use my car |
| 03:27.54 | vhaarr | nothing |
| 03:28.02 | vhaarr | except that people would buy a different brand then |
| 03:28.14 | Parnic | yeah, consumers are stopping them from doing it :P |
| 03:29.49 | VonhintenHOME` | heh, you have far more faith in our world than I do... far as I'm concerned, no one's winning any battles for the consumer, and I have every confidence in corperations willingness to collude |
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| 03:30.11 | Parnic | no, consumers are winning battles for consumers. don't buy something if you don't like the terms |
| 03:30.11 | vhaarr | they're not allowed to make agreements like that |
| 03:30.16 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 03:30.25 | vhaarr | if you BUY a license that can't be transferred, you're a fucking IDIOT |
| 03:30.35 | vhaarr | he lost the case, rightfully |
| 03:31.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't get to see the license on a piece of software I buy until I've bought it |
| 03:31.44 | Parnic | the article talks about a sales license, not a software installation agreement |
| 03:33.48 | vhaarr | or a terms of use, which VonhintenHOME` is thinking about probably |
| 03:34.09 | VonhintenHOME` | EULA |
| 03:34.30 | vhaarr | yeah that's not what this is about |
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| 03:35.50 | pompy | beta servers seem so fucked up right now |
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| 03:38.39 | Parnic | so i'm calling GetEquipmentSetItemIDs and using the returned table to look for an item id that i'm passing in to this method. http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetEquipmentSetItemIDs |
| 03:39.08 | Parnic | the array contains numbers, i'm passing in a number, i have printed both values and they are 50292, yet "itemArray[i] == itemId" is printing false |
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| 03:39.26 | Parnic | where itemId is the number passed in and itemArray is the array returned by GetEquipmentSetItemIDs |
| 03:39.40 | Parnic | what subtle detail of that return table am i missing? |
| 03:41.02 | Parnic | http://paste.wowace.com/2423/ - the output is "number 50292 - number 50292 - false" |
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| 03:43.53 | vhaarr | what's EQUIPPED_LAST? |
| 03:44.08 | Parnic | a constant defined in PaperDollFrame.lua - blizz code. it's 19 |
| 03:45.28 | Parnic | i just don't understand how 1 == 1 is false :P |
| 03:45.37 | Parnic | so there must be something i'm missing |
| 03:46.06 | nebula169 | itemid ~= itemId |
| 03:46.15 | Parnic | oh dangit :P |
| 03:46.18 | Parnic | thank you, lol |
| 03:46.21 | nebula169 | :p |
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| 03:46.51 | Parnic | hey look, it works! :P |
| 03:46.59 | nebula169 | victory! |
| 03:47.13 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:47.15 | vhaarr | Parnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/findglobals/ |
| 03:47.20 | quiescens | moo |
| 03:47.39 | vhaarr | Parnic: macro that script to run through your code on every save |
| 03:48.04 | Parnic | interesting |
| 03:48.17 | Parnic | thanks for the link |
| 03:49.22 | vhaarr | I wouldn't describe it as "interesting", but sure |
| 03:49.42 | Parnic | s/interesting/useful!/ |
| 03:56.06 | Vonhinten | I find the whole concept of local _G=_G being faster ridiculous |
| 03:56.41 | Vonhinten | Why isn't that stuff optimized internally |
| 03:57.00 | Repo | 10round3dportraits: 03Daedhir 07master * v0.2-4-g3677b7f Round3DPortraits.lua: [+1 commit] Doing a revamp of some functions to compartmentalize frame creation |
| 03:57.51 | Vonhinten | If there's no ambiguity, it should be done automatically |
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| 04:08.22 | Repo | 10breakables: 03Parnic * r27 Breakables.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 04:08.24 | Repo | - added accessor to grab an item id from a link since i was duplicating the code for it all over the place |
| 04:08.25 | Repo | - replaced check for "Soulbound" in an item tooltip with ITEM_SOULBOUND (oops) |
| 04:08.27 | Repo | - replaced a getglobal with _G |
| 04:08.27 | Repo | - added ability to hide soulbound disenchantable items that are part of an equipment manager set (since some quest rewards and such are soulbound but the player doesn't actually use them) |
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| 04:51.06 | Parnic | so - i've had an issue reported from users of settings never saving. i can't reproduce it but the guy that emailed me his saved variables had a german signature so i'm wondering if it's specific to non-english clients |
| 04:51.12 | Parnic | is there a way to put my wow client in another language? |
| 04:51.42 | Parnic | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/languagepack-en.xml maybe? |
| 04:54.39 | ShadniX | Parnic: well - you can find a german language pack under http://www.wow-europe.com/en/downloads/elp/ - but i don't know if that works with the US-Client |
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| 05:05.09 | Repo | 10round3dportraits: 03Daedhir 07master * v0.2-5-gd97f5ce Round3DPortraits.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed some taint issues and reorganized the frame creation code, also some other bug fixes |
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| 05:06.16 | anyues | hello, every one |
| 05:06.55 | anyues | anyone here? |
| 05:07.29 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03Raelea * r466 modules/MinimapButton.lua: |
| 05:07.31 | Repo | Small change necessary to re-enable the minimap icon menu. It has funky radio buttons, but I'll solve that later. |
| 05:07.39 | Parnic | no |
| 05:07.54 | anyues | oooh |
| 05:08.48 | anyues | sorry, I come here first time, anyone can help me? |
| 05:09.00 | Parnic | it's easier to ask your question instead of asking if you can ask :) |
| 05:09.15 | anyues | ok, thanks |
| 05:09.24 | anyues | I'm wower from china |
| 05:09.47 | anyues | as your konw, chinese wow update wlk 3.22 |
| 05:10.37 | anyues | bug bigwigs cannot using |
| 05:11.24 | anyues | so I want to contact bigwigs author for help |
| 05:11.36 | Parnic | your best bet is to file a ticket with the BigWigs mod since there's no guarantee that the author is in this channel |
| 05:11.46 | Parnic | create a new ticket here: http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/tickets/ |
| 05:12.05 | anyues | ok, thank you very much |
| 05:19.05 | Avis_ | Did they change GetItemCooldown in the latest build ? |
| 05:25.20 | Parnic | argh, i think my problem with some users not having their data saved is due to this line: self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("IceCoreDB", self.IceCore.defaults, "Default") |
| 05:25.29 | Parnic | "Default" is localized (hardcoded) in AceDBOptions |
| 05:25.57 | Parnic | and it's a local var :( |
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| 05:45.16 | quiescens | blah |
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| 06:48.52 | LibertineLush | hi. i have a rogue question, for pve or pvp, but mostly pvp. should you put 5 points into dual wield spec for a sub build? 50%+ dmg seems so huge but i see builds, sub or otherwise, without it |
| 06:49.12 | LibertineLush | it would seem all rogues should put 5pts into it |
| 06:51.07 | Niv | this is a strange place to ask |
| 06:51.16 | Niv | I would start with the EJ rogue forums :P |
| 06:52.06 | LibertineLush | elitist jerks? or they mostly for pve? i've read stickies on there, and it appears to be mostly raid-driven |
| 06:52.20 | LibertineLush | is this channel only for addon discussion? |
| 06:52.20 | Parnic | well we're mostly addon authors, not theorycrafters :) |
| 06:52.24 | Parnic | maybe try shadowpanther |
| 06:52.52 | LibertineLush | yea, wasn't sure. thought maybe general wow discussion was welcome |
| 06:52.56 | quiescens | we pretend to be addon authors |
| 06:52.57 | LibertineLush | there's a forum at shadowpanther? |
| 06:53.03 | Parnic | i dunno :P |
| 06:53.04 | LibertineLush | i didn't notice that |
| 06:53.11 | LibertineLush | yea, there's none :( |
| 06:53.54 | LibertineLush | i'm just 4 weeks into the game, so i dunno where else to ask besides here, the wowhead channel and the wow forums, which are miserably inconvinient to post in |
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| 06:59.53 | evl | LibertineLush: EJ is the place to be |
| 07:00.21 | evl | LibertineLush: but for PVP it's pretty easy just to browse the 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 ladder winners and copy their spec |
| 07:02.58 | nevcairiel | just don't ask stupid questions on EJ :D |
| 07:03.11 | evl | In fact, don't ask questions on EJ at all |
| 07:03.25 | the-golem | rumor is they're jerks. |
| 07:03.28 | the-golem | >.> |
| 07:03.33 | evl | Chances that you bring something new and interesting into their arcane ramblings is somewhere along 0.003% |
| 07:03.34 | the-golem | Elitest ones at that. |
| 07:03.39 | the-golem | hides in his hole. |
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| 07:04.29 | LibertineLush | evl: i'm hesistant to post there. even in their stickies i can tell they'd hate any of my "stupid" questions |
| 07:04.44 | LibertineLush | are they some top lvl raiding guild? the arrogrance there is profound |
| 07:04.57 | evl | They're pretty good yeah |
| 07:05.13 | evl | Infact, they're so good |
| 07:05.26 | evl | 4 of the members have actual items in Icrecrown Citadel named after them |
| 07:05.40 | evl | So they aren't sitting there all day talking shit if that's what you meant :D |
| 07:05.59 | Parnic | suffice to say they live up to their name :) |
| 07:06.20 | the-golem | Heh. |
| 07:06.23 | nevcairiel | Once you play your class for 5 years, you'll actually understand their way of thinking when discussing class changes, though |
| 07:07.01 | LibertineLush | wow, items named after them. that's nice of blizzard |
| 07:07.09 | the-golem | lol |
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| 07:07.32 | Aeyan | Well, they do provide a service to Blizzard, I suppose. |
| 07:07.34 | the-golem | blizzard also honors idiocity. Just ask jenkins >.> |
| 07:07.45 | nevcairiel | hehe, he got a whole achievement + title |
| 07:07.55 | bluspacecow | :_: why do peoples necro posts :( |
| 07:08.14 | evl | LibertineLush: http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t37183-pocket_guide_wotlk_updated_3_3_a/ |
| 07:08.15 | Aeyan | I'd guess Blizzard could use a lot of their theorycrafting and number crunching as empirical data |
| 07:08.21 | evl | You'll go a LONG way with that post alone |
| 07:08.33 | Stanzilla | bluspacecow: cause it took so much time to read your wall of texts that it's old when they finish reading :( |
| 07:08.36 | Stanzilla | *hides* |
| 07:08.46 | bluspacecow | nah its not that |
| 07:09.06 | LibertineLush | evl: i have that one bookmarked. but it's all for pve, not sub build guidelines |
| 07:09.08 | bluspacecow | they take some thread *2 years old* to add on thats it happening to them too |
| 07:09.11 | LibertineLush | not that there isn't good info there |
| 07:09.20 | evl | Well PVP isn't really theorycraftable |
| 07:09.31 | evl | Just copy some top dogs spec and you'll be finex |
| 07:09.54 | LibertineLush | ok |
| 07:10.10 | evl | There's so much to PVP that can't be learned without playing anyway |
| 07:10.11 | Aeyan | Yeah, I'd just take that advice and check out something like: http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/player/all/all/rogue/all/all/ |
| 07:11.07 | evl | Holy shit that Laserfeet guy :D |
| 07:11.22 | evl | 2v2 2908, 3v3 2919, 5v5 2740 |
| 07:11.34 | Aeyan | Yeah, he's been busy |
| 07:11.34 | Vonhinten | Yeah Libertine, their arrogance is profound |
| 07:12.55 | Vonhinten | imo, most of asshats that moderate EJ were beaten up in school... or should have been |
| 07:14.41 | LibertineLush | Aeyan: how's that site different from the info at wowarmory? comparing the 2 atm |
| 07:15.06 | Aeyan | Oh, I dunno. I just remembered from a while back. |
| 07:15.17 | Aeyan | I don't really PvP competitively so I don't know the spots. =P |
| 07:15.40 | evl | LibertineLush: it reads the same data |
| 07:15.51 | LibertineLush | looks useful anyways. thanks. the build i may follow is apparently 4th most popular there |
| 07:15.57 | Vonhinten | http://www.arenajunkies.com/ |
| 07:15.58 | LibertineLush | ok |
| 07:16.04 | evl | Some of the builds require pretty top level gear |
| 07:16.11 | evl | so you're probably fine with the 44 spec |
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| 07:16.55 | LibertineLush | Vonhinten: i got that bookmarked. perused the forums, no real sub pvp guidelines i could find |
| 07:17.05 | LibertineLush | evl: you mean 44/4/23? |
| 07:17.10 | evl | yeah that oen |
| 07:17.12 | evl | I haven't pvp'ed in ages |
| 07:17.48 | LibertineLush | so far pvp is the most fun for me, but i haven't reached 80 yet, so dunno what raiding's like |
| 07:18.28 | evl | Then stop chatting and start playing :) |
| 07:18.31 | evl | This weekend is AV weekend |
| 07:18.34 | evl | if you can win it's huge XP |
| 07:18.46 | LibertineLush | alterac valley? |
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| 07:19.01 | LibertineLush | haven't played that bg yet |
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| 07:22.18 | evl | gogo! |
| 07:23.50 | LibertineLush | i know i'm anxious to! just wanna wait till 59. 55 now |
| 07:24.06 | LibertineLush | is there av weekend every weekend? |
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| 07:24.30 | evl | LibertineLush: random battleground every weekend |
| 07:24.58 | LibertineLush | ah |
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| 07:32.42 | tem | it used to be a sequence |
| 07:32.57 | tem | WSG -> AV -> AB -> EOTS -> WSG |
| 07:33.18 | tem | it may be completely random now |
| 07:34.59 | LibertineLush | ok. good to know |
| 07:52.26 | LibertineLush | Aeyan: so that sk gaming arena ranking list is way better than the armory, cause i can't sort only by class at the armory. looks like this is the best i could possibly find to more confidently build a sub pvp |
| 07:52.28 | LibertineLush | thanks again |
| 07:52.39 | Aeyan | Sure thing |
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| 09:28.34 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tourguide_recorder/. TourGuide_Recorder. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
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| 09:29.35 | nevcairiel | tekkub: you should update that description to say "Cata beta" instead of wrath beta, though =P |
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| 10:26.34 | Fisker | i beta u nevcairiel |
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| 11:12.01 | Repo | Only distribute each gold piece once (remember the amount of last distribution). |
| 11:12.02 | Repo | Fixes to balance windows. Master looter now only uses the master balance window. |
| 11:12.12 | Repo | 10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-11l * r78 : beta tag |
| 11:12.30 | nebula169 | whatever happened Zygor/TourGuide thing that went down awhile back? everything go back to normal? heh |
| 11:12.36 | nebula169 | to the* |
| 11:13.26 | nevcairiel | contract expired, tourguide got back to us |
| 11:13.32 | nebula169 | sweet |
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| 11:16.14 | stolenlegacy | packager dead :( |
| 11:17.03 | stolenlegacy | tourguide_recorder seems to have put it into an infinite loop with assertion errors |
| 11:17.49 | Pneumatus | heroism corehoud, winner :o |
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| 11:32.19 | Fisker | why would you do that nevcairiel ? |
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| 11:58.54 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04Beta 0.1.1 * r10 : Trying to figure this out |
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| 12:08.02 | kagaro | anyone else getting just a blue bar logging into the beta? |
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| 12:11.58 | ccKep | gonna check, sec |
| 12:12.09 | kagaro | it fixed it self |
| 12:12.17 | ccKep | mkay |
| 12:12.25 | kagaro | weird if i turn off ui scaling my game stutters badly, turn it back on and its smooth |
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| 12:13.20 | ccKep | did they change the ui scaling in their video settings back to a slider or is it still just a dropdown of presets? |
| 12:14.07 | Ali1331 | it's a slider again |
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| 12:14.27 | Ali1331 | and yes kagaro, the servers are a little buggered this build it seems |
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| 12:38.12 | evl | Can I get OnUpdate to run on a hidden frame? |
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| 12:43.10 | Ali1331 | dont think so evl |
| 12:43.19 | Ali1331 | it's called when the frame is drawn |
| 12:43.27 | Ali1331 | you could try setting alpha to 0 maybe? |
| 12:43.46 | Ali1331 | unless it's mouse responsive |
| 12:43.49 | evl | I can't, its a button |
| 12:44.11 | Ali1331 | well just make another frame then |
| 12:44.53 | evl | Trying to stay conservative on the frame use :) |
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| 13:08.51 | kagaro | lol raid browser says i cant choose icc on beta in full 264/277 gear |
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| 13:11.26 | Fisker | old kagaro |
| 13:11.29 | Fisker | the instance is closed |
| 13:11.37 | Fisker | icecrown citadel is closed for business |
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| 13:38.43 | evl | I know I might be overzealous on optimizing here but having an OnUpdate handler running simple elapsed < duration, will it hurt performance at all? |
| 13:39.43 | Ali1331 | I doubt it... |
| 13:40.00 | haste | you can run it without any duration limit in most cases |
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| 14:11.07 | evl | lua doesn't have a continue statement? |
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| 14:14.49 | nevcairiel | no |
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| 14:53.23 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04B0.1.1 * r12 : trying to fix svn settings . . . |
| 14:54.00 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04b0.1.1 * r13 : Tagging as b0.1.1 |
| 14:58.01 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint * r14 GridConfigurableLayouts.lua: b0.1.1 |
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| 15:05.11 | Pneumatus | twilight highlands digsites make me emo a bit :< |
| 15:05.53 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint * r16 GridConfigurableLayouts.lua: Repository / Packager troubles . . . |
| 15:07.35 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04b0.1.1 * r17 : trying to fix packager woes . . . |
| 15:07.38 | koaschten | Pneumatus the uldum ones arnt better with the roaming vll 84s |
| 15:07.54 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04b 0.1.1 * r18 : Still trying to fix packager woes . . . |
| 15:07.56 | Pneumatus | i have no problem killing stuff in uldum though |
| 15:08.58 | Pneumatus | dunwald digsite, 1 add and you lose :< |
| 15:09.15 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04beta 0.1.1 * r19 : |
| 15:09.17 | Repo | Tagging as beta 0.1.1 . . . why won't this site build a package for me? |
| 15:10.16 | Parnic | msaint - because it's stuck. http://www.wowace.com/packager/ |
| 15:10.24 | Parnic | packager's bugging out again |
| 15:10.52 | Parnic | summoning ckknight! :) |
| 15:11.42 | Pneumatus | AssertionError: '@project-version@' != '@project-version@' |
| 15:11.46 | Pneumatus | orly |
| 15:12.14 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04Beta 0.1.1 * r20 : |
| 15:12.16 | Repo | Tagging as Beta 0.1.1 . . . will the packager package for me this time? |
| 15:12.24 | Parnic | lol. how long will he keep at it? :P |
| 15:12.26 | Pneumatus | TAG A FEW MORE TIMES, THAT WILL MAKE IT WORK |
| 15:13.23 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint * r21 GridConfigurableLayouts.lua: Attempting to get the packager to do its job . . . |
| 15:13.30 | Parnic | sighs |
| 15:13.35 | ShadniX | fun :D |
| 15:14.16 | Pneumatus | we demand more tags |
| 15:14.36 | Parnic | i wonder if he'd notice if i created a "thepackagerisbrokentemporarily" tag on his mod :P |
| 15:16.08 | stolenlegacy | people keep buggering me about the aceconfig error |
| 15:16.20 | stolenlegacy | with fps lockups because they can't handle their own scroll frames |
| 15:16.20 | Pneumatus | tag it more |
| 15:16.32 | stolenlegacy | i got a fix committed, but it won't package |
| 15:16.34 | stolenlegacy | so they keep buggering me |
| 15:16.37 | Parnic | lol |
| 15:16.40 | ckknight | MOAR TAGS |
| 15:16.43 | Parnic | you fixed it already? nice :) |
| 15:16.45 | stolenlegacy | goes to tag it :D |
| 15:16.47 | Parnic | hooray, ckknight saves the day |
| 15:16.52 | Pneumatus | ckknight: TAG IT WITH FIRE |
| 15:17.09 | stolenlegacy | Parnic: no |
| 15:17.12 | stolenlegacy | wowace.com/packager |
| 15:17.19 | Parnic | well yeah, but aside from that |
| 15:17.22 | stolenlegacy | still nothing i see that works |
| 15:17.34 | stolenlegacy | ckknight: just kick out tourguide_recorder of the queue |
| 15:17.40 | stolenlegacy | it's erroring |
| 15:17.42 | pompy | im pretty sure tourguide_recorder bnrke it |
| 15:17.47 | pompy | ^ |
| 15:17.58 | Repo | 10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 6f3dec0 Display.lua: [+1 commit] Removed some debug, issue was in map data being off, data has now been corrected |
| 15:18.07 | ckknight | stolenlegacy: no, I'd rather fix it. |
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| 15:18.19 | stolenlegacy | sighs |
| 15:18.31 | Repo | 10libmapdata-1-0: 03kagaro 07cataclysm * r42 library.lua: Updated values |
| 15:18.33 | stolenlegacy | what's the usual response time on ace3 tickets anyway? |
| 15:19.02 | Parnic | Avatar of Nevcairiel |
| 15:19.03 | Parnic | Nevcairiel |
| 15:19.05 | pompy | nevcairiel usually gets to them when hes not busy |
| 15:19.07 | Pneumatus | >9k |
| 15:19.08 | Parnic | err, bah. bad paste |
| 15:19.12 | stolenlegacy | he's busy |
| 15:19.15 | stolenlegacy | :( |
| 15:19.28 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.2.0 * r307 / (8 files in 3 directories): Cataclysm changes |
| 15:19.29 | stolenlegacy | people don't use mah addon because it drops them to 1 fps in the config |
| 15:19.29 | stolenlegacy | :( |
| 15:19.29 | Repo | Improved instance selection |
| 15:19.44 | stolenlegacy | interestingly, it doesn't do that for me |
| 15:19.55 | Parnic | it depends on the ui scale, width, resolution, all that |
| 15:20.00 | Parnic | as to how things get laid out in the frame |
| 15:20.20 | Parnic | i have one group out of about 30 in my config that causes the problem for me locally |
| 15:21.19 | stolenlegacy | yeah |
| 15:21.30 | stolenlegacy | but makes it annoying to troubleshoot |
| 15:21.38 | Parnic | that it does |
| 15:23.27 | stolenlegacy | but i've added a new option in the most recent tag |
| 15:23.38 | stolenlegacy | that should resolve the issue (making the height larger so scroll properly renders) |
| 15:23.53 | stolenlegacy | << but it doesn't package because the gorram thing is broken >> |
| 15:24.12 | Parnic | i considered adding some code to detect low framerates and resize the window but decided against it :P |
| 15:27.41 | stolenlegacy | ckknight: you told the packager to skip a package if it errors instead of repeatedly trying it |
| 15:27.42 | stolenlegacy | ? |
| 15:27.50 | ckknight | no |
| 15:28.48 | stolenlegacy | finally, i can tell people to fetch the new tag |
| 15:29.08 | Repo | 10libmapdata-1-0: 03kagaro 07cataclysm * r43 library.lua: Had width,height reversed, fixed |
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| 15:43.52 | wink | *tag, you're it* |
| 15:51.21 | Pneumatus | archaeology seems like a hideous waste of time :< |
| 15:58.02 | yoshimo | yeah, right now i doubt ill learn it |
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| 15:58.53 | Pneumatus | ive got 3 grey items and 65 skillpoints for about 2/3 hours of flying around |
| 16:02.43 | Bruners | Pneumatus: what are you supposed to find with it? |
| 16:02.50 | kagaro | junk |
| 16:02.58 | Pneumatus | you find fragments, which you then convert into artifacts |
| 16:06.30 | Bruners | any other professions that directly needs it? |
| 16:07.03 | kagaro | no |
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| 16:15.38 | kagaro | anyone know the spell for worgen transformation? |
| 16:17.31 | Pneumatus | Two Forms |
| 16:17.51 | Pneumatus | spell id 68996 |
| 16:17.57 | kagaro | i did the random race change to worgen but transformation button is missing |
| 16:18.10 | Pneumatus | all worgen racials are missing on race change |
| 16:18.16 | Pneumatus | as they are linked to the starting quests |
| 16:18.27 | kagaro | ahh gotcha |
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| 16:31.42 | Iblise | Is anyone able to get past the blue bar on beta? |
| 16:31.59 | Parnic | sometimes it takes a minute, but i haven't had any trouble this morning...yet :P |
| 16:32.07 | kagaro | guild invites no longer seem to work on beta |
| 16:32.25 | Parnic | yeah i just now logged on, lblise. it sat there for a bit but went eventually |
| 16:32.34 | Pneumatus | all kinds of broken going on atm though |
| 16:32.50 | Pneumatus | ive had 2 chars eaten now :< |
| 16:33.12 | Parnic | i'll be happy when the character copy is actually reliable |
| 16:33.14 | kagaro | i lost 2 to instances |
| 16:34.14 | Iblise | which mods are you working on parnic? |
| 16:34.20 | Parnic | IceHUD at the moment |
| 16:35.03 | Iblise | Thats what I though |
| 16:35.27 | Iblise | And I don't suppose you'd be able to fix that runic power wastage mod that I keep mentioning hah |
| 16:35.47 | Parnic | not a priority right now - i don't have any bar at all for eclipse, for example :) |
| 16:40.03 | Iblise | lvl 85 premades were setup right? |
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| 16:40.41 | ccKep | thats what the patch notes say, though EU copy doesn't even work since a few weeks |
| 16:40.45 | Parnic | they're listed as available but i can't get them to work |
| 16:41.43 | Iblise | I somehow have a lvl 80 premade dk copied over |
| 16:41.59 | Parnic | i got 4 level 80 premades copied a few days ago but i haven't been able to since |
| 16:43.00 | ccKep | I've got plenty of time and nothing to code atm, if anyone needs a helping hand on updating/fixing their mods I'd volunteer |
| 16:43.24 | Parnic | you wanna figure out why a handful of users are reporting that their saved variables aren't loading for icehud after i converted to ace3? :P |
| 16:43.26 | Iblise | Awesome |
| 16:43.27 | Iblise | cckep |
| 16:43.31 | Iblise | I'd love you long time |
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| 16:44.03 | Iblise | I really need the runic power mod fixed, the author that was working on it just up and disappeared |
| 16:44.09 | Iblise | and its been giving me random numbers |
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| 16:44.52 | ccKep | I've got to take my dogs for a walk in a few minutes, but am gonna take a look at it right when I'm back... don't promise anything though |
| 16:44.57 | ccKep | whats the name of the mod? |
| 16:44.59 | Iblise | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18232 |
| 16:45.15 | Megalon | who let the dogs out! |
| 16:45.46 | ccKep | woof woof woof woof |
| 16:47.01 | Iblise | wow |
| 16:47.01 | Parnic | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0359hSerDeE |
| 16:47.07 | Iblise | the premade 80 dk is horrible |
| 16:47.12 | Iblise | it has 40 expertise |
| 16:47.16 | Iblise | and do 1handers |
| 16:47.18 | Iblise | no* |
| 16:48.24 | ccKep | parnic just ruined my day ^.^ |
| 16:48.43 | Parnic | hahaha |
| 16:49.13 | Parnic | nobody knows who you are! |
| 16:50.11 | ccKep | ain't a bad thing ;) |
| 16:50.38 | Iblise | Where do i learn all my gylphs for free in beta |
| 16:50.40 | Iblise | dal still? |
| 16:50.57 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 04beta 0.1.1 * r22 : Duplicate |
| 16:50.58 | nevcairiel | for getting stuff for free, you can at least find it! |
| 16:51.06 | orionshock | i think so Iblise |
| 16:51.11 | orionshock | no new city in cata :( |
| 16:51.28 | Iblise | Not having my UI is just killing me on beta |
| 16:52.08 | Iblise | and no gold is horrible |
| 16:52.11 | Iblise | wtf |
| 16:52.35 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint * r23 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories): Changed to match file name |
| 16:53.38 | Zyn | copy your addons and live with those that work then :p |
| 16:53.54 | nevcairiel | Peoples dependency on addons i just hilarious :p |
| 16:53.58 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.2.0 * r308 / (9 files in 6 directories): Encounter database update |
| 16:54.00 | Repo | Release 1.2.0 Beta 1 |
| 16:54.24 | nevcairiel | we didnt even have addons in beta until last week |
| 16:54.28 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.2.0 Beta 1 * r309 : Tagging as 1.2.0 Beta 1 |
| 16:54.29 | Zyn | if you play a DK, you got to use addons |
| 16:54.38 | Zyn | default rune display etc = horrible ^ 100 |
| 16:54.41 | Iblise | wait how do I enable add ons? |
| 16:54.54 | Pneumatus | if you play any DoT class in a group you're going to suck without addons :P |
| 16:54.55 | Iblise | Just copy some over to the addon folder? |
| 16:55.03 | Parnic | you install them and check them on the char select screen |
| 16:55.15 | nevcairiel | same way you install addons on live, duh |
| 16:55.18 | Iblise | yeah i wasn't seeing an addon button, figured they were still disabled |
| 16:55.19 | Parnic | nevcairiel: you have any ideas on this? http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/tickets/165-drastic-fps-loss-under-certain-conditions/ |
| 16:55.28 | Parnic | you have to have at least one addon for the button to show up |
| 16:56.29 | nevcairiel | cannot reproduce :p |
| 16:56.44 | Parnic | hmm. what res do you run at? |
| 16:57.56 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint * r24 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories): cleaning up |
| 17:00.58 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 17:01.06 | Fisker | why didn't you say Gom was hosting a SC2 league? |
| 17:01.10 | Fisker | and that they had sold out? |
| 17:01.34 | Fisker | you are a horrible person |
| 17:07.13 | Megalon | sold out? |
| 17:07.14 | Megalon | lol |
| 17:07.18 | Megalon | you don't watch gsl? :) |
| 17:07.25 | Megalon | you missed TLO |
| 17:07.32 | Megalon | and tastosis |
| 17:07.34 | Megalon | the casting archon |
| 17:07.58 | Megalon | "I'm an optimist, and if I was on team prime then I would be optimist prime" |
| 17:07.59 | Megalon | :DDDDDD |
| 17:08.10 | Megalon | tasteless just pulls out the best quotes when casting |
| 17:09.04 | Megalon | and when they discussed desert oasis and cannon rushes before they added the ledge, pure gold |
| 17:10.17 | Megalon | btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwlsEXvkxo |
| 17:10.22 | Megalon | best commercial ever |
| 17:10.40 | Fisker | Megalon you can't watch the matches after live |
| 17:10.47 | Fisker | well you can but only the first game |
| 17:10.52 | Fisker | which is useless, etc |
| 17:12.18 | Megalon | that's why i, as a nerd, try to watch live restream ;s |
| 17:12.19 | sztanpet | buy the season pass |
| 17:12.22 | sztanpet | its 20 usd |
| 17:12.55 | sztanpet | also, i saw a link for the tlo vods, lemme find it |
| 17:13.39 | Fisker | some of us got work |
| 17:13.56 | Fisker | 20 usd is 20 usd too much sztanpet |
| 17:18.12 | sztanpet | http://sc2.plu.cn/vod/gsl2010/ |
| 17:18.15 | sztanpet | there it is |
| 17:23.43 | Fisker | that's piracy sztanpet |
| 17:23.44 | Fisker | reported |
| 17:23.45 | Fisker | for free |
| 17:23.52 | orionshock | starlon, fyi your risking becoming the next alarlib |
| 17:23.57 | sztanpet | indeed |
| 17:24.14 | Fisker | totally reported sztanpet |
| 17:24.26 | sztanpet | iduncare |
| 17:24.29 | Fisker | and korean |
| 17:24.31 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 17:24.35 | Fisker | for free as well |
| 17:25.05 | sztanpet | waiting for djwheat to begin casting wcg usa sc:bw with day9 |
| 17:25.14 | sztanpet | slackers |
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| 17:28.56 | Iblise | Is there a list of cata enabled mods yet? |
| 17:29.07 | sztanpet | there should be |
| 17:29.13 | Parnic | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/tags/cataclysm/default.aspx |
| 17:29.26 | Parnic | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat140.html |
| 17:29.51 | Xinhuan | hmm i wonder if the streaming beta etc |
| 17:29.55 | Xinhuan | allows people to multibox |
| 17:29.59 | Xinhuan | on the same machine |
| 17:30.14 | Xinhuan | with the same installation |
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| 17:30.27 | Xinhuan | would both copies of wow try to stream and write the same data |
| 17:34.58 | Megalon | sztanpet: argh thanks for reminding |
| 17:35.30 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: they produce lock files while streaming, so might just block the second |
| 17:35.57 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: hey |
| 17:36.11 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 17:38.02 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: but since you're streaming again, go try it :p |
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| 17:38.15 | Xinhuan | i don't have 2 beta-enabled account, thanks :) |
| 17:39.01 | Axodious | i would assume it would attempt to write to the same file and whichever got it first locks it |
| 17:39.11 | Axodious | and the other will just continue putting an error in the log |
| 17:39.37 | Axodious | sorta like leap frog |
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| 17:40.26 | quiescens | the solution is to steal someone's account xinhuan |
| 17:40.42 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): base version with no content |
| 17:40.46 | Axodious | points at Fisker |
| 17:41.22 | Megalon | quiescens: you mean someone's hdd |
| 17:42.20 | yoshimo | ~seen Torhal |
| 17:42.27 | purl | torhal <~callahan@74-141-246-74.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 9h 2m 57s ago, saying: 'You are Fisker, not angry.'. |
| 17:42.35 | quiescens | points at torhal- |
| 17:42.50 | sbu | Megalon: fix beta already! |
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| 17:49.13 | yoshimo | quiescens, yea but that looks like he is afk |
| 17:50.44 | quiescens | ): |
| 17:50.54 | quiescens | you never really know |
| 17:51.05 | Iblise | arg |
| 17:51.12 | Iblise | this is like 10 mins of blue bar |
| 17:51.15 | Iblise | on beta |
| 17:51.41 | Zhinjio | ~seen Adirelle |
| 17:51.45 | purl | adirelle <~Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 9h 40m 40s ago, saying: 'but hey, it's fisker !'. |
| 17:53.05 | sbu | Iblise: yup... |
| 17:53.07 | Megalon | sbu: you not online? :p |
| 17:53.19 | Axodious | Blue Bar not-so-instantly kills Iblise |
| 17:53.26 | sbu | Megalon: i have full bars! |
| 17:55.07 | Iblise | I just want to log into beta |
| 17:55.16 | Iblise | this bullshit wait is annoying |
| 17:57.04 | sbu | dont do beta then :p |
| 17:57.29 | quiescens | that's the spirit |
| 17:57.50 | yoshimo | lets see if i can find a good group today.. i have the feeling most people in cataclysm 5mans are screwed ;) |
| 18:00.04 | Parnic | is SetVertexColor expecting r,g,b,a or a,r,g,b? |
| 18:00.12 | Shadowed | Everything is rgba |
| 18:00.21 | quiescens | that's what you think! |
| 18:00.24 | Parnic | thanks |
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| 18:05.59 | Silker | I think the stress test might've broken things. |
| 18:06.35 | Silker | yay infastructure upgrades. |
| 18:06.48 | quiescens | yay |
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| 18:20.29 | orionshock | yoshimo, it's the Wrath-Babies that are screwed come cata :) |
| 18:21.23 | yoshimo | i hope its not just a lack of gear that makes the instances hard and i hope it wont be nerfed too dast |
| 18:21.26 | yoshimo | *fast |
| 18:22.08 | Pneumatus | theres no need to make normal modes hard, its heroics that should be hard |
| 18:22.27 | yoshimo | the problem is that people arent used to cc |
| 18:22.37 | nevcairiel | if normals are too easy, they tend to make heroics not as hard as they should be |
| 18:22.41 | nevcairiel | if normals are kinda hard already |
| 18:22.52 | nevcairiel | you get where i'm going with that :P |
| 18:23.14 | nevcairiel | but sadly, its always been like this |
| 18:23.24 | Parnic | yeah yoshimo when we were having a hard time in PoS, i told the two people that could CC to do so and they didn't even know where the ability was on their bar |
| 18:23.25 | Iblise | Any idea if it would be better to try and wait out the blue bar or just alt f4 out and try to log in again |
| 18:23.27 | nevcairiel | in beta 5mans are fun, because they are challenging |
| 18:23.29 | Iblise | for beta |
| 18:23.35 | nevcairiel | then come live, they get nerfed to hell =( |
| 18:23.42 | Parnic | if it's been more than a minute, try again Iblish |
| 18:23.46 | Parnic | Iblise* |
| 18:23.52 | Iblise | thanks |
| 18:24.16 | Pneumatus | the way normals stand right now, i'd never LFD into one, let alone a heroic |
| 18:24.33 | nevcairiel | for heroics thats good, i guess |
| 18:25.17 | yoshimo | Pneumatus, i love challenges ;) |
| 18:25.33 | yoshimo | and if we focus on social guild live in cata, i dont even need lfd^^ |
| 18:25.37 | Pneumatus | i love challenges too, but there are times when i want to just get my 2 badges and be done with it |
| 18:25.47 | nevcairiel | i hate that |
| 18:25.56 | nevcairiel | just running the instance because there are 2 badges at the end |
| 18:26.00 | nevcairiel | takes all the fun out of playing |
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| 18:27.06 | Pneumatus | its a means to an end really, and no different from spending an hour trying to get a frost lotus to drop or whatever |
| 18:27.10 | yoshimo | badges are in there to help the "noobs" with skilled high geared players that need the badges to get t10 |
| 18:27.50 | Parnic | for me, badges allow me to get good gear even though i don't have the time to raid :) i love them |
| 18:28.08 | nevcairiel | (here comes the back in classic comment); back in classic, without any badges, we still went to 5mans, and it still was fun, something changed :p |
| 18:28.26 | Parnic | i didn't. i rolled alts :P |
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| 18:28.40 | Pneumatus | back in classic we raided 5man dungeons to grind the drops of our blue sets |
| 18:28.52 | orionshock | in classic you spent an hour or so doing an instance |
| 18:29.06 | yoshimo | instead of 15m ;) |
| 18:29.16 | Pneumatus | given the choice of taking 10 people vs 5 people originally was a no-brainer |
| 18:29.19 | Parnic | yeah it was a big time investment. my least-favorite feature |
| 18:29.21 | nevcairiel | an hour? |
| 18:29.28 | orionshock | UBRS |
| 18:29.28 | nevcairiel | i remember those 3 hour scholomance runs! |
| 18:29.39 | Pneumatus | i remember spending a day in BRD. |
| 18:29.49 | yoshimo | orionshock based on cata videos it is back to classic with loooong 5mans as well |
| 18:29.58 | nevcairiel | haha, trying to do all of BRD, with all quests in one run, now that was an epic journey |
| 18:30.01 | orionshock | before the summoning stones.. where you actually had to ride out to the instance |
| 18:30.21 | nevcairiel | At least it felt like you were doing something in the world |
| 18:30.32 | nevcairiel | now most people don't leave dalaran, get ported to instances, and return |
| 18:30.32 | orionshock | IMO they need to bring back UBRS, that 10-man/Non-Raid-Lockout instance |
| 18:30.46 | Parnic | dibs on skinning the dog |
| 18:30.50 | Pneumatus | UBRS was 15-man, originally, orionshock :P |
| 18:31.01 | nevcairiel | every other instance was 10 |
| 18:31.04 | orionshock | 15 feels too much like a 20man raid |
| 18:31.05 | nevcairiel | well, originally totally unlimited |
| 18:31.09 | Parnic | i have my skinning enchant and +skinning knife ready |
| 18:31.41 | nevcairiel | You know, first time we tried scholomance 5man for the quests (while it was still unlocked for 10m), it was really hard |
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| 18:31.54 | nevcairiel | that isn't a too bad design, want a challenge, do it 5man, want it easy, do 10 :p |
| 18:31.55 | orionshock | lol |
| 18:32.04 | orionshock | anyone remember the "Postman Set" |
| 18:32.12 | nevcairiel | oh yes |
| 18:32.17 | nevcairiel | was really hard to get |
| 18:32.34 | orionshock | 50runs later, oh a piece finally dropped |
| 18:32.36 | orionshock | .... |
| 18:33.24 | Fisker | imma postman u |
| 18:33.27 | orionshock | when being in blues was not only normal, but respected :) |
| 18:33.49 | Fisker | i hate that orionshock |
| 18:34.06 | orionshock | lol |
| 18:34.11 | EthanCentaurai | I miss the good old days where enchants on your weapons was only for looks |
| 18:35.06 | nevcairiel | orionshock: when you were king in epics, not only for being unique, but actually being so much more powerful |
| 18:35.25 | nevcairiel | in Tier2, we so rocked BGs |
| 18:35.32 | nevcairiel | tanks were untouchable |
| 18:35.52 | Parnic | and when you hung around in capital cities, people just sat and looked at you |
| 18:37.57 | orionshock | when epic was epic |
| 18:38.51 | ccKep | does PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE get fired on switching speccs? (dont have dualspecc on my toon) |
| 18:39.33 | EthanCentaurai | ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED I think |
| 18:40.23 | Repo | 10analyst: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r69 / (3 files in 1 directory): Cataclysm port |
| 18:41.27 | EthanCentaurai | 450Mb of stuff downloaded from the repair tool so far O_o |
| 18:41.29 | EthanCentaurai | damn |
| 18:41.39 | sbu | betarepair? |
| 18:41.42 | EthanCentaurai | aye |
| 18:41.46 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 3.3.5.8-1-ga8802bb Heatsink.lua: [+1 commit] fix bag cooldown scan, mea culpa |
| 18:41.52 | sbu | why? :p |
| 18:41.58 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 043.3.5.9 * 6566659 /: [new tag] 3.3.5.9 |
| 18:42.00 | sbu | is this going to fix full blue bar stuff? |
| 18:42.03 | quiescens | because he broked it |
| 18:42.04 | quiescens | ! |
| 18:42.06 | EthanCentaurai | kept getting "unable to validate game version" |
| 18:42.10 | sbu | oh okay |
| 18:42.19 | EthanCentaurai | so I thought "I'm gonna punch that repair tool in the face" |
| 18:42.30 | EthanCentaurai | and now it's making me pay for it :p |
| 18:42.39 | quiescens | now its going to redownload the whole game, forever |
| 18:42.52 | dafi | in classic though everyone was new, can we make things hard these days for good players without relying on tight dps or unforgiving instant death mechanics? |
| 18:43.17 | ccKep | this must be part of the epic quest chain "the day beta came" |
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| 18:44.01 | EthanCentaurai | "I was minding my own business, downloading the patch and hanging with some hot babes..." |
| 18:44.26 | EthanCentaurai | oh who am I kidding... I'm a gamer, I'm hot-babe-repellant :( |
| 18:44.56 | dafi | EthanCentaurai: not the nerdy hot ones though |
| 18:45.13 | nevcairiel | They are rare, but if you can find one, even hotter :p |
| 18:45.29 | EthanCentaurai | I only know of Noxy :< |
| 18:45.35 | nevcairiel | who? |
| 18:45.47 | EthanCentaurai | the artist for Wowhead |
| 18:45.59 | EthanCentaurai | she's a nerdy hot babe :> |
| 18:46.05 | nevcairiel | i actually know one irl |
| 18:46.26 | Parnic | i married one |
| 18:46.43 | EthanCentaurai | is jealous |
| 18:47.27 | dafi | they're out there, you just have to believe! |
| 18:47.48 | asmodai | lol, Minecraft is also cool. Seriously, Dwarf Fortress, Minecraft. Do you need anything else? :D |
| 18:47.48 | Axodious | i AM one.......................... ok no |
| 18:48.10 | dafi | you can see them around in DnD game days and such |
| 18:48.35 | EthanCentaurai | or Legend of Zelda and Devil May Cry game days :D |
| 18:48.42 | dafi | the real issue |
| 18:48.50 | dafi | is finding a single one |
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| 18:50.56 | dafi | guys like Parnic don't waste time... |
| 18:51.41 | Parnic | well you can't let some other idiot get a hold of her! |
| 18:51.41 | EthanCentaurai | I asked in Barrens chat "wtb a girlfriend". someone replied "you don't buy gfs, you make them" so I replied "what are the mats?" |
| 18:51.55 | asmodai | Gah, 2 zombies jumping in front of my windows, and add to that either spiders or creepers |
| 18:52.12 | nevcairiel | zombies? |
| 18:52.25 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Minecraft :) |
| 18:52.27 | orionshock | inlaws |
| 18:52.36 | asmodai | Oh wait, that's 1 zombie and 1 creeper at least |
| 18:53.00 | EthanCentaurai | needs to get out more |
| 18:53.30 | asmodai | EthanCentaurai: :) |
| 18:53.58 | Parnic | it's a saturday afternoon and we're all in a wow addon irc channel...i think you're in good company |
| 18:54.27 | EthanCentaurai | hehe |
| 18:54.38 | EthanCentaurai | brb, Colloquy's crashing |
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| 18:55.07 | Gnamra | I got a question, if I may... I can't figure out how to make my addon remember it's position on the screen after I log out. |
| 18:55.28 | Parnic | Gnamra: I'm doing that with Breakables if you wanna grab it and check it out |
| 18:55.30 | Parnic | @project breakables |
| 18:55.30 | Repo | Parnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/breakables/. Breakables. Game: WoW. Parnic (Manager/Author). Updated: 13 hours ago |
| 18:55.32 | orionshock | ... wtb wiki article on this |
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| 18:56.00 | EthanCentaurai | 620Mb from betarepair |
| 18:56.13 | EthanCentaurai | and still going |
| 18:56.28 | nebula | if you use StartSizingOrMoving wow will automatically put the frame in it's layout cache |
| 18:56.34 | EthanCentaurai | what the hell is it downloading anyway? O_o |
| 18:56.47 | Axodious | EthanCentaurai: your soul |
| 18:57.02 | nevcairiel | maybe the beta repair is broken |
| 18:57.17 | nevcairiel | you know, i dont think we ever had a repair tool for any ptr or beta before |
| 18:57.30 | Pneumatus | Gnamra: basically, save off the points once the frame has been moved, then setpoint the frame to those saved positions on load :) |
| 18:57.57 | nebula | it's always been there, the new one just is fancier in the fact that it streams the data back instead of deleting a pak and telling you to redownload a patch |
| 18:59.14 | EthanCentaurai | repair complete |
| 18:59.16 | EthanCentaurai | yay |
| 18:59.34 | Gnamra | Pneumatus: I see, but I'm not 100% sure on how to do that... since I'm kinda new to this :p is there a wiki article somewhere? |
| 19:01.45 | Repo | 10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r79 GDKPd.lua: Fixed an issue when nobody bids on an item. |
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| 19:02.23 | orionshock | Gnamra, no, but your like the 3rd person in the last 2weeks to ask ... |
| 19:02.50 | Repo | 10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-11m * r80 : tagging |
| 19:03.01 | EthanCentaurai | haha |
| 19:03.02 | EthanCentaurai | epic |
| 19:03.05 | EthanCentaurai | Bibi: ping |
| 19:03.06 | orionshock | im not irritated, there just isn't anything easy to point at and say "There, look, something easy to implement" |
| 19:03.10 | Parnic | it's probably easiest to look at something that already has the feature functioning :) |
| 19:03.25 | quiescens | points |
| 19:03.34 | EthanCentaurai | female Worgen are now implemented |
| 19:03.41 | EthanCentaurai | as pink boxes |
| 19:03.44 | orionshock | Parnic, true, but sometimes translation from one addon to another can be cryptic and confusing for newbies |
| 19:04.06 | Parnic | that's fair |
| 19:04.20 | Parnic | a fair point* |
| 19:05.24 | orionshock | i cleaned up the http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_Draggable_Frames page.. |
| 19:05.44 | Gnamra | Hmm. Well if I ask: Are there APIs to help me with what I'm trying to do? |
| 19:05.49 | orionshock | make it more consistent as you can do the implementation 2 ways in both xml and lua |
| 19:06.02 | orionshock | Gnamra, frame:GetPoint() |
| 19:06.12 | Gnamra | ooh, thanks :) I'll check it out |
| 19:07.57 | Parnic | you'll need AceDB to save the points, GetPoint and SetPoint to retrieve/store the data |
| 19:08.36 | orionshock | Parnic, Gnamra, you won't /need/ AceDB, but just a SV somewhere... |
| 19:08.43 | orionshock | AceDB is nice tho :) |
| 19:08.50 | Parnic | i just assumed since he was in here that he was using ace already :) |
| 19:09.41 | Gnamra | Nah. I'm not:) Well, not yet. I talked to a few people on wow and they said this is a pretty good place for help. |
| 19:10.46 | Megalon | sbu: stop restarting the server! |
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| 19:11.54 | Gnamra | I'm still not sure about these points your talking about. so far I've only learn to set them at bottomright, right, left etc etc.. can you define them by using X and Y values? |
| 19:11.59 | nebula | http://paste.wowace.com/mpy3eb5lsnz1ftux/ as an example |
| 19:12.08 | EthanCentaurai | Mekkatorque just died |
| 19:12.13 | EthanCentaurai | FFFFFUUUUU-- |
| 19:12.17 | dafi | EthanCentaurai: sexy pink boxes, oh yeah. all the box fetishist in the beta are going wild |
| 19:12.27 | Megalon | it restarted |
| 19:12.35 | EthanCentaurai | dafi: it made me laugh though |
| 19:12.43 | Megalon | if you happened to miss all of those 20 server messages |
| 19:12.48 | EthanCentaurai | yes |
| 19:14.53 | dafi | does anyone care what happens to Mekkatorque though? |
| 19:15.04 | sbu | Megalon: server working? |
| 19:15.28 | dafi | hum... it just occurred to me, you're talking about the eu server and not the lore character aren't you :| |
| 19:15.31 | nevcairiel | speaking of mekkatorque, maybe i should do that gnomeregan event |
| 19:16.04 | dafi | nevcairiel: had the same idea, we should indeed |
| 19:16.13 | Megalon | make out? |
| 19:16.25 | nevcairiel | with hot gnome babes |
| 19:16.35 | dafi | nevcairiel: myth |
| 19:16.39 | Megalon | oxyomoron |
| 19:16.51 | nevcairiel | at least i didnt say dwarf |
| 19:18.20 | Gnamra | Thanks, Nebula :D But can you explain the _,_, part of the local point, _,_, ,x,y? :) |
| 19:18.26 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 19:18.28 | Fisker | lets kill Megalon |
| 19:18.35 | Fisker | he's german so we all hate him |
| 19:19.04 | nebula | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/GetPoint |
| 19:19.11 | nevcairiel | Megalon lets kill fisker, he is danish and we all hate them! |
| 19:19.25 | Megalon | i'm in |
| 19:19.30 | Gnamra | Aha! Thanks :D |
| 19:19.41 | nebula | cheers :p |
| 19:19.47 | Megalon | even i, as a non-german, hate fiskerdanes! |
| 19:20.14 | Megalon | and wow, archeology |
| 19:20.22 | Megalon | how grindy can a profession get |
| 19:20.27 | kagaro | hrmm i take it the premade lvlv 85 premades dont copy over either |
| 19:20.39 | Megalon | it's like mining |
| 19:20.40 | dafi | Megalon: could be worse |
| 19:20.44 | Megalon | but the dot on the minimap |
| 19:20.47 | Megalon | runs away |
| 19:20.53 | Megalon | for the first 4 times you land on it |
| 19:21.36 | Megalon | and you get 5 skillups every 10th node :x |
| 19:22.16 | Megalon | dafi: it sucks how survey kinda gives you a direction where it can be as much as 45° off |
| 19:22.24 | kagaro | megalon it didnt even give me the option to track it |
| 19:22.25 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r574 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:22.27 | Repo | - added basic implementation of Druid Eclipse bar for balance druids |
| 19:22.31 | Megalon | this isn't triangulation, it is guessing |
| 19:22.44 | Fisker | ah you're australian Megalon |
| 19:22.50 | Fisker | thought you were german |
| 19:22.59 | Megalon | GET TO DA CHOPPA |
| 19:23.03 | Megalon | perhaps you'll get it then |
| 19:23.11 | Fisker | get what? |
| 19:23.19 | Parnic | austrian? :P |
| 19:23.30 | Fisker | no australian |
| 19:23.34 | Fisker | like that fritzl guy |
| 19:23.41 | Megalon | hehe |
| 19:23.42 | Megalon | yea :P |
| 19:23.56 | Megalon | the australian superhero |
| 19:24.02 | Fisker | survey didn't work at all for me Megalon |
| 19:24.04 | Fisker | how do you hax? |
| 19:24.22 | kagaro | survey works fine its just random |
| 19:24.33 | dafi | Megalon: solving an artifact gave me 21 points. the guessing is kind of interesting too if you can second guess were the location is, i've gotten stuff with just two surveys |
| 19:24.34 | Fisker | mine doesn't say shit |
| 19:24.52 | Primer | I have an addon that spams me with "No player named 'Bla bla bla' is currently playing" when I join BGs. Anyone have any candidates? |
| 19:24.54 | kagaro | it drops an item ont eh ground fisker |
| 19:25.06 | Megalon | Fisker: it spawns a scope |
| 19:25.08 | Fisker | not here :( |
| 19:25.14 | Megalon | you go in the direction the scope points |
| 19:25.20 | Megalon | and the lightbulb tells you how far |
| 19:25.25 | Parnic | Primer: grep? :) |
| 19:25.29 | Fisker | could try it again |
| 19:25.32 | Megalon | red: anything between 50y and the other continent |
| 19:25.33 | Megalon | :S |
| 19:25.39 | dafi | Fisker: you need to be in the locations marked on the map (not mini-map) |
| 19:25.46 | Megalon | and yea |
| 19:25.56 | Megalon | go to the continent map |
| 19:25.56 | Primer | Parnic: unlikely to be part of the addon |
| 19:26.00 | Fisker | i know dafi |
| 19:26.03 | Megalon | and look where the shovels are |
| 19:26.10 | Primer | but an in-game message due to something it's doing |
| 19:26.17 | Parnic | Primer: IIRC that message comes from a /who so you'd grep for that or the equivalent API call |
| 19:26.20 | Fisker | wouldn't it just say "can't cast that here" anyway? |
| 19:26.25 | Fisker | or is it really that stupid? |
| 19:26.29 | Parnic | but idk |
| 19:26.51 | Parnic | actually that is probably from trying to send a message to a person that doesn't exist/isn't online |
| 19:26.59 | Parnic | i think 'who' gives back "0 players" or something |
| 19:27.30 | Megalon | yea fisker, if you aren't in the zone |
| 19:27.33 | Parnic | maybe an addon trying to communicate over the old channel-based comm system? |
| 19:27.34 | Megalon | it says can't cast/use |
| 19:27.41 | Megalon | but if you are it says can't do that while moving |
| 19:28.10 | Megalon | i'm just at 105 |
| 19:28.15 | kagaro | also cant use it while swimming |
| 19:28.17 | nebula | or just a SendAddonMessage("blah", "blah", "WHISPER", "name without - realm") |
| 19:28.22 | Megalon | need 30+ artifacts for a 5point skillup :S |
| 19:28.30 | Fisker | what does green vs. red mean? |
| 19:28.39 | Megalon | kagaro: ah yea, that rocks on the one digsite in desolace :S |
| 19:28.44 | Megalon | green = near |
| 19:28.46 | Megalon | red = far |
| 19:29.12 | Megalon | if you have green, just walk until it resets |
| 19:29.16 | kagaro | what ive noticed so far: in a given dig location like gubashi arean there are 3 possible spawn points |
| 19:29.40 | Megalon | giev gathermate! |
| 19:29.58 | Megalon | i just noticed that sometimes they spawn in the exact same location |
| 19:30.14 | kagaro | yeah thinking that, but i need more data to see if it was just random or meaningful |
| 19:30.35 | Xinhuan | i doubt its random |
| 19:30.43 | Xinhuan | because it could randomly be in a unreachable location |
| 19:30.44 | kagaro | i do to |
| 19:30.50 | Xinhuan | if it was random |
| 19:31.27 | nebula | no more of a tease than a phased titanium node ;[ |
| 19:31.40 | Megalon | yea, but when you have alot of possibilities in those small areas |
| 19:31.45 | orionshock | nebula, .... |
| 19:31.47 | orionshock | yeah... |
| 19:31.57 | kagaro | btw did anyone nitice: the frozen herbs you find in WG now also spawn in alterac mountains |
| 19:32.35 | orionshock | happens.. |
| 19:32.51 | orionshock | kinda like black lotus only has like 8 spawn points total in the game :| |
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| 19:34.16 | Fisker | why does the legendary weapons achievement require that you have guild reputation? |
| 19:34.28 | Fisker | oh i guess it's to prevent someone from joining with it |
| 19:34.38 | kagaro | yup |
| 19:34.57 | orionshock | guild rep is kinda interesting.. |
| 19:35.08 | kagaro | the lion mount is gonna sucks to get for newer players |
| 19:35.09 | orionshock | anyone know if they follow you around from guild to guild? |
| 19:35.29 | Fisker | obviously it doesn't |
| 19:35.32 | orionshock | like if i switch guilds when im at revered & then come back 3 months later, do i keep the revered status? |
| 19:35.38 | nebula | i would hope so |
| 19:35.38 | kagaro | no idea i would guess not since when you join a new guild it resets your guild stuff |
| 19:35.46 | nebula | otherwise joke kicks are gonna be a bitch >.> |
| 19:35.53 | Fisker | ah like that orionshock |
| 19:36.12 | kagaro | ya, looking a the guildcode when you join a new guild you loose anything guild rep you had |
| 19:36.18 | orionshock | yeah, cuz while it has a section "Guild Rep", the guild itself has it's own bar underneath it |
| 19:37.01 | kagaro | check GuildControl there is a new warning box this patch starting you will reset yoru guild rep if you didnt belong to that guild previoulsy |
| 19:37.29 | kagaro | so guild hoping is gonna be penalized |
| 19:37.43 | nebula | ah, so it resets when joining a different guild from your last, i'll take that |
| 19:38.00 | kagaro | so kicking for fun doesnt hurt that player |
| 19:39.55 | orionshock | imo your guild rep should stay with you |
| 19:40.20 | orionshock | if you rejoin maybe drop it a rank |
| 19:41.26 | nebula | mb add a decay, you lose previous guild rep as you accrue rep in the new guild |
| 19:41.28 | sbu | yea should reset only on new guilds |
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| 19:44.27 | Fisker | creates a fart for Megalon |
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| 19:46.31 | Iblise | How do I play with the built in power auras in beta? |
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| 19:50.49 | Parnic | any here run their wow client in a language other than english? |
| 19:51.31 | Stanzilla | Iblise: you run around and hit buttons |
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| 20:01.35 | ccKep | its automagically on and displays stuff for certain spells |
| 20:01.42 | ccKep | killing machine for DKs or something like that I think |
| 20:02.18 | ccKep | ah no, just rime and suddon doom |
| 20:03.15 | ccKep | *sudden, ofc |
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| 20:19.18 | ccKep | some little bird just told me cata release date announcement's gonna be soonish (1 wk)... *prays* |
| 20:19.34 | Xinhuan | why wouldn't they leave that to blizzcon |
| 20:19.46 | ccKep | because they seem to have a so-called "60 days rule" |
| 20:19.59 | ccKep | meaning time from anouncement till release is approx. 60 days |
| 20:20.06 | Xinhuan | well if blizzcon is on oct 20, they could release it on dec 24! |
| 20:20.09 | Xinhuan | (lol) |
| 20:20.18 | Fisker | duh ccKep |
| 20:20.27 | ccKep | well, I certainly don't know how trustworthy that is |
| 20:20.30 | Fisker | It's not as much a 60-day rules |
| 20:20.32 | Fisker | rule* |
| 20:20.41 | ccKep | I know the guy for 5 years, but I don't know if his source is reliable |
| 20:20.46 | Xinhuan | [and if i guess that right, you can donate me 10 elementium ores] |
| 20:20.47 | Fisker | It's just the point where they have to finish the game enough so they can print enough copies for a worldwide release |
| 20:21.18 | Fisker | So yes, the announcement will probably land within the next couple of weeks, since the game release will probably be in november |
| 20:22.53 | sbu | Fisker: i think we are way beyond that point |
| 20:23.26 | Fisker | beyond what point? |
| 20:23.34 | sbu | "press stuff to dvd" |
| 20:23.45 | Fisker | They might already have started yeah |
| 20:23.49 | sbu | its like 10% that will ship with cataclysm |
| 20:24.14 | Xinhuan | it hardly matters what is printed on the dvds because |
| 20:24.21 | Xinhuan | they will just patch it on the same day |
| 20:24.25 | Xinhuan | (esp since its an mmo) |
| 20:24.32 | sbu | whole cataclysm event will ship with 4.0 |
| 20:24.43 | sbu | and all class related stuff will be 500mb patch on release day |
| 20:24.53 | sbu | so its the key *shrug* ;) |
| 20:25.15 | Fisker | of course Xinhuan |
| 20:25.17 | orionshock | eh... |
| 20:25.19 | Parnic | well they're re-vamping the entire old world, so it'll be like a 3gb patch :P |
| 20:25.25 | kagaro | has anyone found any new type of gas clouds int eh beta? |
| 20:25.29 | Fisker | also allows them to cut significant corners in the releasing process |
| 20:25.39 | orionshock | guys they have to push out the new data files for the class changes, zone changes, item changes all to the live realm before they do cata release |
| 20:25.40 | Fisker | since they can spend about 2 months on developement as the game nears release |
| 20:25.48 | ccKep | so, _if_ I trust the friend of mine we're like 9 weeks away from release... makes me wonder when we'll see the obligatory 4.0 patch with class changes on live |
| 20:25.49 | orionshock | there is still the live -> 4.0.x patch to do |
| 20:26.00 | Fisker | ccKep usually a month before |
| 20:26.09 | Xinhuan | ok lets look at wrath |
| 20:26.14 | Xinhuan | when did they announce wrath |
| 20:26.18 | Xinhuan | and when did it launch |
| 20:26.22 | orionshock | if cata follows the same release style as BC and Wrath, then the actual release only has the new zones data |
| 20:27.08 | Fisker | hmm |
| 20:27.11 | Fisker | i wonder how that will work |
| 20:27.23 | Fisker | they'll simply leave out the terrain changes until cataclysm is released? |
| 20:27.35 | Fisker | But be running 4.x with the old terrain and stuff? |
| 20:28.06 | Parnic | the actual geometry has changed too much for them to not patch it in for everyone |
| 20:28.31 | Fisker | i know Parnic |
| 20:28.40 | Fisker | but technically speaking Cataclysm doesn't happen until the game is out |
| 20:28.48 | sbu | well |
| 20:28.53 | Vonhinten | but will all the new quests be present for non-cata players |
| 20:28.56 | Fisker | So i'm talking about if the pre-cataclysm patch will have the cataclysm terrain, or if it'll have the pre-4.x terrain |
| 20:29.11 | sbu | cataclysm terrain is bound to 4.0, not to cataclysm expansion |
| 20:29.26 | sbu | classic players will still get new terrain |
| 20:29.31 | Fisker | i know |
| 20:29.43 | Fisker | But that means the cataclysm event wil happen prior to the game being released |
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| 20:29.50 | Fisker | that's basically what i was wondering |
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| 20:30.38 | Parnic | i hope you can buy/download the expansion at midnight on release date. i hate going to the store and hoping they have a copy |
| 20:30.41 | Yssaril | since cata is in the post cataclysm world 3.9 or 4.0 whicher the transition patch will be will contain the actual cataclysmic event |
| 20:31.07 | Odlaw | i expect aq40 v2 |
| 20:31.27 | Odlaw | lagged server and numerous crashes :) |
| 20:31.30 | Yssaril | Parnic: you can probably preload it before hand (not that it matters much with a streaming launcher) |
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| 20:31.46 | Vonhinten | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOVq_UL48o0&feature=channel |
| 20:31.51 | Parnic | yeah i just mean that with wrath it took them a while before you could buy it online |
| 20:31.55 | Parnic | it wasn't available on release day |
| 20:32.20 | orionshock | like 90% of what's on beta right now has to be patched live. Pretty much everything minus the graphic files for the new zones & instances. |
| 20:33.00 | Parnic | wonder how they're going to justify a $40+ price point for an expansion that basically equates to what, 5 new zones? :P |
| 20:33.13 | orionshock | dev time |
| 20:33.27 | Parnic | right, but the meat of it is coming in the free patch, as you mentioned |
| 20:33.40 | Parnic | so if no one bought the expansion, we'd still all get the entirely new old world :P |
| 20:33.40 | orionshock | just because it's in the patch dosn't mean it's accessable |
| 20:33.51 | Parnic | ? |
| 20:34.02 | Parnic | so no one can leave Ironforge in 4.0 unless they have cata? :P |
| 20:34.13 | orionshock | people w/o the xpack have to be able to open the item links for everything in cata... |
| 20:34.47 | Fisker | i wonder if the 4.0 patch will even be a patch |
| 20:34.58 | Fisker | or more like a dedicated installer to remove all the junk and start over |
| 20:34.59 | Fisker | :P |
| 20:36.19 | Fisker | and apparently the PTR copy is up |
| 20:37.01 | sbu | it is? |
| 20:37.07 | Fisker | apparently |
| 20:37.12 | sbu | no "failed"? |
| 20:37.21 | Fisker | i wouldn't know |
| 20:37.25 | Fisker | just heard it on the internets |
| 20:41.26 | sbu | nope Fisker |
| 20:41.27 | sbu | failed |
| 20:46.21 | Repo | 10absorbsmon: 03eyogar 07master * beta2-14-g3b33c44 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 20:46.23 | Repo | 3b33c44: Removed passive effect type since there are no such effects in cataclysm anymore, significantly simplified some code paths that way |
| 20:46.24 | Repo | 61b52f4: Added proper handling on disabling as well as profile change |
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| 20:53.03 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2774 / (11 files in 4 directories): small updates |
| 20:58.07 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 20:58.10 | Fisker | how does one gom player? |
| 21:06.28 | Iblise | hmm I can't figure out how to display buffs on my pet with the default ui |
| 21:07.42 | nebula | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.11 | Iblise | I tried that but it doesn't show my deathcoil buff on it |
| 21:10.25 | Iblise | I have to mouse over my pet unit frame before it shows the buff |
| 21:10.29 | Iblise | nothing shows on the focus |
| 21:11.17 | Iblise | apparently you need larger focus frames checked |
| 21:12.32 | Iblise | Regardless has anyone been able to log onto beta? I really want to relog and enable more mods, but i'm scared i'll just blue bar again if relog |
| 21:14.37 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): laying the groundwork for the use of the Ace3 libraries |
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| 21:37.08 | Fisker | lol megalon |
| 21:40.59 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r4 Localization/: |
| 21:41.01 | Repo | setting up basic localization with (2) namespaces for Options/Messages at the start |
| 21:41.42 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r5 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:41.44 | Repo | setting up basic localization with (2) namespaces for Options/Messages at the start |
| 21:45.51 | ccKep | is there a way to delete projects from wowace? been inactive quite a while and the projects I created once are neither functional nor do they make sense nowadays |
| 21:45.54 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r604 modules/Bubbles.lua: fix the bubbles module to display the correct font |
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| 21:47.29 | Cyprias | ccKep: Edit Project > Development stage > Deleted? |
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| 21:48.45 | ccKep | when I click on the project I get redirected to curseforge, when I click on "Project Management" there I can't seem to find a delete link |
| 21:48.56 | ccKep | (and yes, I am logged in, and I am the Manager of the project) |
| 21:49.12 | Lysithea | 4.0ptr charcopy and dl up |
| 21:49.20 | Lysithea | for those of us that dont have beta |
| 21:50.18 | Cyprias | ccKep: Project management > Edit Project > Development stage > Deleted (I've never tried it) |
| 21:51.37 | ccKep | there is now "Development Stage" for me Oo |
| 21:52.01 | ccKep | there's a "development stage" below the management-box, which is publicly visible and that says "Abandoned" ofc :D |
| 21:52.24 | ccKep | ah |
| 21:52.24 | ccKep | gotcha |
| 21:53.02 | ccKep | thanks :) |
| 21:55.13 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r6 / (2 files in 2 directories): testing out localization |
| 22:02.30 | Pneumatus | archaeology makes me want to kill myself |
| 22:02.32 | Pneumatus | is this bad? |
| 22:03.02 | ccKep | bad isn't even close to what it is on beta right now |
| 22:03.34 | ccKep | friend of mine leveled to 110 and told me about it... I gave up at 40 |
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| 22:06.27 | nebula | just keep thinking about your aqir mount and power through it |
| 22:07.30 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.4b3 * r605 : Tagging as 3.4b3 |
| 22:07.44 | ccKep | Archeology needs an addon to track flight miles |
| 22:08.25 | sylvanaar | theres a 4.0 ptr? |
| 22:08.28 | ccKep | plaguelands -> stranglethorn -> twilight highlands -> stranglethorn -> plaguelands rocks |
| 22:08.42 | sylvanaar | thats crazy |
| 22:08.45 | ccKep | seems so sylvanaar, although I didn't look for a link or such |
| 22:09.18 | ccKep | (+ the dig site in twilight highlands is nuts, with dozens of casters nuking you with 8k twilight bolts) |
| 22:10.31 | nebula | looks like it http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/ptr-downloader-enUS.html |
| 22:11.07 | nebula | erm, points at PTR-Iinstaller-4.0.0.12824-enUS-downloader.exe |
| 22:15.13 | Lysithea | nebula yepp that's what I dld |
| 22:15.42 | Lysithea | then later you get the catadownloader/launcher, if it says something.12941 you got the ptr stuff |
| 22:15.47 | Lysithea | in the header |
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| 22:19.59 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r207 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 22:20.01 | Repo | - Fix SpecialEvents-LearnSpell and SpecialEvents-Skill for Cataclysm |
| 22:20.18 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r7 : add svn:externals for the Ace3 libraries to embed them |
| 22:20.26 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r221 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet: |
| 22:20.28 | Repo | - Fix last fix for 3.3 |
| 22:21.56 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r208 LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 22:21.58 | Repo | - Making variable name capitalization more consistent |
| 22:22.37 | Parnic | @project liblinq |
| 22:22.38 | Repo | Parnic: No project found that matches 'liblinq' |
| 22:22.46 | Parnic | @project liblinq-1-0 |
| 22:22.48 | Repo | Parnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/liblinq-1-0/. LibLinq-1.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago |
| 22:25.36 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:25.37 | Repo | add minimap LUA file, based somewhat off of how RaidBuffStatus does things |
| 22:28.50 | Parnic | hey ckknight i'm looking through liblinq's metatable stuff and according to the lua documentation, using __index = prototype only allows single inheritance. is there a trick to get around that? |
| 22:29.19 | ckknight | you want to inherit from two parents? |
| 22:29.23 | ckknight | or you want to have a chain? |
| 22:29.28 | Parnic | chain |
| 22:29.48 | ckknight | that's totally doable with the same method |
| 22:29.53 | ckknight | nothing special |
| 22:29.54 | Parnic | does each child just set its __index to the prototype as well? |
| 22:30.03 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r216 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts: |
| 22:30.05 | Repo | - Cataclysm fix for summoning |
| 22:31.16 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r222 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet: |
| 22:31.17 | Repo | - Small fix related to the Cataclysm update |
| 22:31.20 | ckknight | for a chain, each one only has one parent |
| 22:31.24 | ckknight | so just do it the exact same way |
| 22:31.28 | ckknight | only to the different parent |
| 22:31.29 | Parnic | simple enough |
| 22:33.40 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r91 / (8 files in 2 directories): Broker_RecZone: |
| 22:33.42 | Repo | - Update zones for Cataclysm support |
| 22:33.43 | Repo | - Note that pathing is currently disabled, working on support for adding flight pathing and flying |
| 22:34.46 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r92 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_RecZone: |
| 22:34.48 | Repo | - Update TOC with Cataclysm compatibility |
| 22:36.19 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 045.1.223 * r223 : Tagging as 5.1.223 |
| 22:36.59 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 043.0.217 * r217 : Tagging as 3.0.217 |
| 22:37.46 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander 043.0.93-beta * r93 : Tagging as 3.0.93-beta |
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| 22:46.45 | Gnarfoz | yo |
| 22:47.08 | Gnarfoz | any of my german homeboys around? |
| 22:48.05 | nevcairiel | nop |
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| 22:52.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: curse you |
| 22:52.34 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 22:52.36 | Gnarfoz | or maybe zam you, whichever |
| 22:53.49 | Megalon | stop touching your german homeboys Gnarfoz |
| 22:53.56 | Gnarfoz | riddle me this: wikipedia lists 15,44⬠KfZ-Steuer per 100cm^2 of engine displacement for a diesel engine |
| 22:54.09 | Gnarfoz | and it says it's paid yearly upfront |
| 22:55.12 | Stanzilla | new website online, wohoo |
| 22:55.18 | Gnarfoz | so is that... for, for example, a 1600cm^2 engine, 247,04â¬/year or 247,04â¬/month x12, resulting in 2.964,48â¬/year o_O |
| 22:55.57 | Gnarfoz | the latter seems a bit on the high side for such a "small" engine |
| 22:56.56 | nevcairiel | http://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/DE/Buergerinnen__und__Buerger/Mobilitaet__und__Reisen/Rund__ums__Auto/005__interaktiver__kfz-rechner.html |
| 22:57.05 | nevcairiel | its 247 yearly, fwiw |
| 22:57.29 | Parnic | does anybody run their wow client in a language other than english? |
| 22:57.40 | Gnarfoz | curse you and your authoritative sources! |
| 22:58.15 | Gnarfoz | the habit of using Wikipedia for everything shows its drawbacks |
| 22:58.22 | nevcairiel | i google everything |
| 22:58.25 | Parnic | i'm getting reports of people having their settings no longer load after the switch to ace3 and so far the only common thing between the reports is that they seem to not be native speakers |
| 22:58.27 | nevcairiel | then you get to those pages :p |
| 22:58.39 | Gnarfoz | you are so wise |
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| 23:13.46 | sztanpet | ckknight thought about sending an email to the lua mailing list announcing liblinq? im sure its very usefull outside of wowace too |
| 23:14.18 | Yssaril | Parnic: somebody yes :P |
| 23:14.31 | ckknight | sztanpet: hmm, perhaps... |
| 23:14.36 | Parnic | yssaril: you? :P |
| 23:14.43 | Yssaril | sorry no :P |
| 23:15.56 | Yssaril | Parnic: are you on beta? |
| 23:16.00 | Parnic | yes |
| 23:16.15 | Zhinjio | Ace3-DB question... is it reasonable for an addon to change which format of db it uses midstream??? So for example, going from "factionrealm" to "realm" |
| 23:16.18 | Zhinjio | eg |
| 23:16.28 | Zhinjio | I suspect you'll lose existing data, right? |
| 23:16.35 | Parnic | probably |
| 23:16.39 | nevcairiel | you could migrate it manually |
| 23:16.45 | Yssaril | exit the game start the launcher then go to Options>Game Preferences there on the bottom left you can change the language |
| 23:17.10 | Parnic | yssaril: yeah, i actually downloaded an esMX language pack from blizzard to get that option. it still doesn't reproduce the problem :( |
| 23:18.20 | Yssaril | Parnic: did you actually migrate the settings or just wiped an started fresh? |
| 23:18.21 | Parnic | and the only guy who has reported the issue and is actively still talking to me with it is in Germany so communication is difficult due to time zones :P |
| 23:18.35 | Parnic | what do you mean? |
| 23:18.40 | Parnic | when i went to ace3 from ace2? |
| 23:18.44 | Yssaril | yea |
| 23:19.02 | Parnic | migrated them. i've had plenty of "awesome, new updates work great!" comments and just a couple "it's not saving anything" comments |
| 23:19.12 | Parnic | well, i didn't really migrate them...it just sort of worked, actually :P |
| 23:19.37 | Parnic | i made one change to my defaults table to inject a 'profile' table where there was none previously. i think it was implicit in ace2 or something |
| 23:19.39 | Yssaril | might be your problem there and not much you can do about it in retrospec i think |
| 23:19.45 | Pneumatus | Parnic: you could get him to rename the key in his SV for his char-specific |
| 23:20.02 | Pneumatus | and/or manually add the user => profile mapping |
| 23:20.06 | Parnic | well, here's the problem...i had him rename his SV file temporarily and start fresh |
| 23:20.13 | Parnic | he changed one setting, reloaded, and it wouldn't load that setting |
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| 23:20.27 | Parnic | i suspect it's throwing an error but he has lua error messages turned off. i asked him to confirm that and haven't heard back yet |
| 23:20.28 | Parnic | so we'll see |
| 23:20.45 | Pneumatus | either that or he's not got write access on his SV file |
| 23:21.03 | Parnic | it's writing - just not loading it. he sent me the SV he has and it's been updated |
| 23:21.09 | Pneumatus | ah |
| 23:21.17 | Parnic | like i said, i'm guessing something is not happy with his language and it's causing the addon to error out/stop loading |
| 23:21.30 | Parnic | but he probably has the errors turned off so all he sees is that the mod don't worky :P |
| 23:21.37 | Yssaril | Parnic: hehe getting feedback from users can be tough at times. Especially when you post a potential fix and then never hear back from them not knowing if it actually helped :P |
| 23:21.46 | Parnic | yeah, that's happened plenty |
| 23:22.02 | Parnic | i usually just assume that i fixed their problem and they're super happy. it makes me feel better. |
| 23:22.17 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 23:22.45 | Pneumatus | he got a UTF-8 char in his profile name or something that might cause problems? |
| 23:22.47 | Parnic | except this one troll that keeps showing up in the comments for my mod on wowinterface...i can't tell if he's just a jerk or he is really bad at conveying his message through text |
| 23:23.02 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.05 | Parnic | pneumatus: it's entirely possible. i'm not sure what else could be happening |
| 23:23.23 | Pneumatus | yeh, i mean, the acedb format is so simple anyway |
| 23:23.53 | Parnic | pneumatus: but i'd think he would have issues with other addons if that were the case. he claims this is the only one that's messed up and he confirmed that the ace3 update is the rev that's broken |
| 23:23.56 | Parnic | so...sadface. |
| 23:26.13 | Pneumatus | /shrug |
| 23:26.59 | Parnic | i can artificially induce his symptoms by nil-ing out the variable that i'm setting to self.db.global |
| 23:27.06 | Zhinjio | in my particular case, it seems silly to me to write code to migrate settings over when all they need to do is relogin to all toons to regen the data. |
| 23:27.46 | Parnic | zhinjio: if you decide to make them do the work, you could always just pop up a message when they load it up that says "stuff changed - here's how to fix it" |
| 23:27.56 | Zhinjio | yeah, agreed. Thats my intent |
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| 23:35.37 | Zhinjio | hmm, no. I don't want to lose their option settings. nm |
| 23:35.44 | Zhinjio | I do need to migrate. |
| 23:35.54 | Zhinjio | ah well, shouldn't be too hard. |
| 23:36.11 | Parnic | you might just be able to do a self.db.factionrealm = self.db.realm, then set something in self.db.global that says "i've already moved these, don't do it again" |
| 23:36.25 | Zhinjio | I think the keys change |
| 23:36.33 | Parnic | worth a shot :P |
| 23:36.49 | Zhinjio | like from ["Alliance - Eldre'Thalas"] to just ["Eldre'Thalas"] |
| 23:36.56 | Zhinjio | but I'm going to verify all that shortly |
| 23:39.01 | orionshock | imo, don't migrate settings if your changing them that much... |
| 23:39.10 | orionshock | new SV name |
| 23:39.16 | Repo | 10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r39 / (2 files in 1 directory): AllXP : |
| 23:39.18 | Repo | - bump TOC (and add X-Compatible-With for Cata) |
| 23:39.19 | Repo | - fixed ChatFrame_DisplayTimePlayed stuff (thanks mscottforbes) |
| 23:39.20 | Repo | - changing from factionrealm to realm (Ticket 8) |
| 23:45.07 | Zhinjio | we'll see how it looks. If its easy, a few lines of code, whatever... its worth the effort. If not, yeah, I'll just purge and have 'em regen |
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| 23:59.31 | Parnic | hmm...searching for an old event yields this list that shows the event: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Search?search=CHAT_MSG_SPELL_HOSTILEPLAYER_DAMAGE&go=1&x=0&y=0 |
| 23:59.41 | Parnic | but when i open each page, that event is nowhere to be found. was it removed when the combat log was overhauled? |
