| 00:00.17 | p3lim | quite happy with the outcome: http://p3lim.net/wow/dev/console.jpg |
| 00:00.59 | p3lim | (the highlight text is making the white, its not always there) |
| 00:01.19 | pompy | p3lim: link isnt working? |
| 00:01.25 | p3lim | sure it is |
| 00:01.32 | pompy | jus tried it in ie and ff |
| 00:01.40 | p3lim | odd, works fine for me |
| 00:02.07 | p3lim | tried IE too, works fine |
| 00:04.23 | p3lim | http://imgur.com/p5hKY.jpg |
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| 00:14.57 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/5th-annual-ui-community-dinner/ |
| 00:19.05 | Vonhinten | Did they completely fuck rogues up on the recent beta? |
| 00:22.14 | p3lim | Vonhinten: yes |
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| 00:29.27 | orionshock | i find it cool that even tho wowace and wowi compete in addons they are still really friendly |
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| 00:32.19 | orionshock | apparently you can track achievements that are not for your faction :| |
| 00:32.54 | Xinhuan | well, is the UI dinner only for authors? lol |
| 00:33.02 | Xinhuan | or for users to join in too |
| 00:34.09 | Arrowmaster | punching a dude in the face and killing him while he has the gravity hammer is fucking awesome |
| 00:35.15 | pompy | http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/26859147653-no-changes-to-thunder-bluff-at-all.html#1 lol |
| 00:42.03 | ccKep | surely they've been working saturday "because they can" |
| 00:42.25 | Xinhuan | interesting :P |
| 00:42.43 | Xinhuan | wowace announces the joint dinner with wowi but not the curse party yet lol |
| 00:44.05 | pompy | Xinhuan: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=115635445160146&ref=mf |
| 00:44.12 | Xinhuan | oh i know |
| 00:44.17 | Xinhuan | i'm saying annuncement on website |
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| 00:50.11 | pompy | lol... |
| 00:50.13 | pompy | Expr:iffChunk->token == 'MVER' |
| 00:50.29 | pompy | typo i guess |
| 00:50.34 | pompy | f instead of ( |
| 00:51.54 | orionshock | wrt facebook, im social but not that social |
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| 01:19.03 | arkanes | anyone have the correct URL for the ptr character copy? The games management link on battle.net is taking me to the cata one |
| 01:29.42 | Connor1_ | Too many TukUI edits. |
| 01:37.24 | cralor | ok.... anyone else error'ed out of logging into beta? I get like 'MapDetail.cpp' error on any character i try to log in to |
| 01:37.35 | pompy | cralor: clear ur cache |
| 01:38.17 | cralor | ah yeah :P |
| 01:39.06 | Ketho | the cace as in wow\Data\cache though* |
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| 01:45.43 | Vonhinten | What's a reputable mumble hosting site? |
| 01:46.10 | Vonhinten | mumblevoice.com? |
| 01:46.36 | Jygga | i am, pay me |
| 01:46.39 | Jygga | :P |
| 01:46.54 | Shadowed | Vonhinten http://mmo-mumble.com |
| 01:47.03 | Shadowed | Antiarc runs it, so you can't get much more reputable than that |
| 01:47.19 | Shadowed | except maybe God, but he doesn't run a mumble hosting site |
| 01:47.28 | Antiarc | mumblevoice is reputable, too, but yeah, mmo-mumble is mine :) |
| 01:49.36 | Trela | Antiarc: What is $1.13 per m? That is confusing. |
| 01:49.51 | Antiarc | month |
| 01:49.55 | Trela | OH. |
| 01:50.02 | Trela | Realized it before you said it. D: |
| 01:50.09 | Trela | I was expected per slot... |
| 01:50.24 | Antiarc | If you want to buy perslot, click the "Roll your own" link |
| 01:50.28 | Antiarc | That'll give you a slot slider :) |
| 01:51.04 | Trela | Nice. |
| 01:51.10 | Trela | You just start this venture up? |
| 01:51.19 | Antiarc | started it in January |
| 01:51.58 | Antiarc | I haven't really advertised it at all, though. I just rely on word of mouth. |
| 01:53.06 | Trela | I have heard about the Mumble stuff. Ventrilo annoys me with how much it lags in development, but they license it every where. |
| 01:53.21 | Antiarc | Mumble is superior tech in every single way, and I say that in all honesty. |
| 01:53.33 | Antiarc | If you have bandwidth you can run your own server trivially, too |
| 01:53.49 | Trela | Yep, that part I like as well. Ventrilo you could... for five people. |
| 01:53.56 | Antiarc | 8, but yeah |
| 01:53.59 | Antiarc | Not really useful for WoW :) |
| 01:54.31 | Trela | Ten person dungeon! Eight slot server... D'OH! |
| 01:55.09 | Antiarc | Vent has just really not kept up |
| 01:55.21 | Antiarc | If you want to try it out, feel free to use one of my demo servers :) |
| 01:55.24 | Trela | I wish you good luck with it. :D TypeFrag is particular successful with Ventrilo. |
| 01:55.28 | Vonhinten | Antiarc, how's the infrastructure? Hosted in a quality data center? |
| 01:55.40 | Antiarc | Vonhinten: Linode, best VPS provider out there. :) |
| 01:56.06 | Antiarc | I have VMs in three of their data centers (CA, NJ, London) so you can pick a server close to your group |
| 01:56.28 | Vonhinten | Your price is higher for a 50 slot |
| 01:56.35 | Vonhinten | than mumblevoice |
| 01:56.42 | Antiarc | Yeah, I primarily aim to compete with Vent hosts |
| 01:56.52 | Antiarc | I didn't go in looking to cannibalize other existing Mumble hosts |
| 01:57.01 | Antiarc | My goal was to provide pricing at ~60% of comparable Vent hosting |
| 01:57.09 | Antiarc | Since my strategy was to convert Vent users. |
| 01:57.32 | Antiarc | Mumblevoice is indeed cheaper, though I'm willing to extend special offers :) |
| 01:59.34 | Antiarc | Use coupon code EA2z3cq for $0.19/slot pricing - that's $9.50/month for 50 users. :) |
| 01:59.56 | Vonhinten | How bout it! |
| 02:00.05 | Vonhinten | New customer is me |
| 02:00.12 | Antiarc | (plus, if you have issues you can get ahold of me easily :) |
| 02:00.25 | Vonhinten | I'd rather pay someone in here anyway |
| 02:03.15 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: can you change the server slots on the fly? |
| 02:03.32 | Antiarc | technically I can, business-wise it's tricky with paypal |
| 02:03.52 | Trela | Yeah, that makes sense. |
| 02:04.08 | Vonhinten | Here's a question for you, I asked NationVoice and they didn't have it... and I haven't seen it anywhere else |
| 02:04.39 | Vonhinten | I currently pay for our vent server, mostly because I make good money, and half (or more) of my guild are jobless losers... |
| 02:05.06 | Vonhinten | But some of them have asked how to contribute... I don't want to deal with managing money |
| 02:05.18 | Antiarc | I don't offer a guild pay, no. |
| 02:05.26 | Vonhinten | Thought about it? |
| 02:05.32 | Antiarc | Again, since PayPal is my provider, such things are technically difficult to implement :/ |
| 02:05.48 | Antiarc | Though you could just put a donate button on your guild site to let people pay into your paypal account, and use that to fund the server. |
| 02:05.57 | Antiarc | (I did that when I was paying for my guild's vent server) |
| 02:06.30 | Vonhinten | That's what I want to avoid, I don't want to deal with money. I don't want to answer questions about how the money is spent, etc... |
| 02:06.34 | Trela | Depends how you do it. If you have an account like a bank account that any member can deposit into then using PayPal for it is quite possible. |
| 02:06.35 | Antiarc | I'll likely get a credit card gateway at some point when I'm making more money, but they're expensive. |
| 02:06.35 | Vonhinten | it's just too much of a hassle |
| 02:06.42 | Antiarc | Yeah, understandable. |
| 02:06.51 | Antiarc | Unfortunately, I don't have a solution for you right now :( |
| 02:07.17 | Antiarc | I'll keep an eye out for a solution, but I'm rather shackled by what PayPal lets me do. |
| 02:07.44 | Antiarc | A few people have asked for something like that, though, so it is on my radar. |
| 02:07.49 | Vonhinten | That's cool. Think about it though. Could be set up like an accounts receivable on your end, not necessarily paypal's side... and if I had to take a wild guess, it could give you a very nice competative advantage, if you wanted it |
| 02:07.51 | Vonhinten | No one else does it |
| 02:08.00 | Antiarc | Yeah, absolutely. |
| 02:08.58 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: how much of a bitch is paypal to deal with? |
| 02:09.21 | Antiarc | technically? Not horrible. There are libs that abstract most of the pain away. |
| 02:09.35 | Antiarc | Customer service wise? I know I'm playing Russian Roulette :P |
| 02:09.38 | Arrowmaster | i mean their policies and rates |
| 02:10.05 | Vonhinten | the real bitch with paypal is the dispute process. non-tangible goods... ugh |
| 02:10.14 | Arrowmaster | i really with the banks would just come up with an updated method of wire transfers and just cut paypal out of the loop |
| 02:10.29 | Shadowed | don't worry |
| 02:10.32 | Shadowed | in 100 years they will |
| 02:10.40 | Shadowed | unfortunately by then will just be sending money with our minds |
| 02:10.53 | Vonhinten | lol |
| 02:15.20 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r127 Ailo.lua: Unintentional global is unintentional |
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| 02:20.03 | Wobin | Antiarc: can you charge a paypal account for the service? |
| 02:20.22 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 02:20.45 | Wobin | so can't Vonhinten set up a paypal account that's -just- for the service, and people pay into that |
| 02:21.17 | Wobin | oh, you've suggested that |
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| 02:24.36 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: policies aren't a problem. Rates a are expensive, but they scale linearly with revenue, so there's no chance of it costing me money. |
| 02:24.54 | Antiarc | Once I grow another 40% or so, I'll get an authorize.net gateway or something and do it more natively |
| 02:25.11 | Antiarc | But it's not cost-effective to have a per-month gateway charge unless I'm clearing significant revenue |
| 02:25.43 | Antiarc | (sorry for the delayed response, raiding) |
| 02:29.20 | Xinhuan | so whats the whole purpose of this |
| 02:29.32 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1318 GridFrame.lua: |
| 02:29.34 | Repo | - Fixed texcoords again, tested this time with all combinations of horizontal/vertical and inverted bars! |
| 02:30.07 | Vonhinten | whole purpose of what |
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| 02:31.27 | Wobin | Xinhuan: 42 |
| 02:32.40 | Vonhinten | lol @ these recaptcha images.. I think a bot may have an easier time reading this than me |
| 02:37.44 | Parnic | whoa, quests can be 'pushed' to the player now on beta? i got a "quest discovered" message and clicking it allowed me to accept a new quest |
| 02:38.05 | Vonhinten | Parnic, well, triggered, I'd say |
| 02:38.12 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 02:38.25 | Xinhuan | it'll even push you above the limit of 25 quests |
| 02:38.42 | Xinhuan | but you won't be able to accept new ones (except pushed ones) until you turn in some |
| 02:38.49 | Parnic | should come in handy for the world events and stuff too. instead of going "where the heck do i go for this?" |
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| 02:39.31 | Vonhinten | Deepholme had a lot of quests that were completed/advanced "remotely" too |
| 02:39.32 | Xinhuan | the built-in power auras thing is pretty flashy |
| 02:39.44 | Parnic | little too flashy for me :P |
| 02:39.48 | Xinhuan | the one for "Impact" blocks to much of the screen though |
| 02:39.51 | Parnic | several of them obscure my HUD! :P |
| 02:39.53 | Xinhuan | hope they will modify that |
| 02:39.54 | Vonhinten | Antiarc, the server locations that have "recommended" on them, is that based on my location? I live in FL, it's recommnding california instead of NJ? |
| 02:40.01 | Antiarc | It's based on population |
| 02:40.19 | Antiarc | I'll be getting a second east server soon, too |
| 02:40.21 | Antiarc | Maybe in Atlanta |
| 02:40.41 | Antiarc | I can migrate you after the fact if your group doesn't mind a new server address |
| 02:40.51 | orionshock | Antiarc, what backbone are your servers connected to? |
| 02:41.00 | Vonhinten | Fair enough |
| 02:41.18 | Vonhinten | I'll take CA for now |
| 02:41.32 | Antiarc | Hurricane Electric in CA and London, looks like |
| 02:41.44 | Antiarc | Looking up NJ |
| 02:41.50 | Antiarc | (I use Linode) |
| 02:42.53 | Vonhinten | getting an authentication popup when I click to paypal |
| 02:42.55 | Vonhinten | A username and password are being requested by http://devstatic.mmo-mumble.com. The site says: "blippr.com development site" |
| 02:43.03 | Antiarc | ...o.0 |
| 02:43.08 | Antiarc | Yeah, I need to fix that. |
| 02:43.11 | Antiarc | It's the co-branding. |
| 02:43.24 | Vonhinten | safe to cancel? |
| 02:43.26 | Antiarc | I wonder why nobody's had it before? |
| 02:43.27 | Antiarc | YEah |
| 02:44.00 | Trela | Does the site use IP address only to connect to a server? |
| 02:44.02 | Parnic | antiarc - you guys are talking about http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 02:44.14 | Antiarc | Parnic: That's the tech, yes. I run a hosting service for it at http://mmo-mumble.com |
| 02:44.17 | Vonhinten | dunno, I have a full suite of dev tools on my comp, but I don't think firefox tells servers about any of it |
| 02:44.21 | Parnic | ah, k |
| 02:44.26 | Antiarc | Trela: It gives you a hostname, and you can set up a cname if you want a custom one |
| 02:44.34 | Trela | Ah, good. :D |
| 02:45.50 | Xinhuan | what's your motivation behind hosting it, Antiarc |
| 02:46.05 | Xinhuan | surely not to make money |
| 02:46.13 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: I was writing a management suite for my own guild's server, then realized I could scale it out and put a checkout in front of it and make money. |
| 02:46.23 | Antiarc | I'd already done the work |
| 02:46.30 | Antiarc | And I wanted to provide a way for people to use Mumble, because it's awesome |
| 02:46.42 | Vonhinten | does wow work with the positional stuff? |
| 02:46.45 | Xinhuan | whats the pros and cons compared to vent |
| 02:46.55 | Antiarc | Vonhinten: No, it'll piss off Warden |
| 02:47.01 | Vonhinten | booo |
| 02:47.18 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Lower latency, better codec, cross-platform support, sweet overlay, lower cost to the end user since it's open source |
| 02:47.29 | Antiarc | Automatic normalization and echo cancelling |
| 02:47.35 | Xinhuan | lower latency?? |
| 02:47.37 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 02:47.40 | Antiarc | Vent has a 500ms frame buffer |
| 02:47.46 | Vonhinten | Vent fucking blows |
| 02:47.51 | Antiarc | So on a LAN, audio will be delayed by at least 500ms |
| 02:48.01 | Trela | Bad! |
| 02:48.04 | Antiarc | Mumble has a frame buffer in the 10-30ms range depending on how you configure it |
| 02:48.11 | sylvanaar | i want somethign that doesnt require ptt |
| 02:48.11 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 02:48.19 | Xinhuan | well all my friends use skype for arena anyway |
| 02:48.21 | Antiarc | mumble doesn't require PTT, though you can set it up obviously |
| 02:48.23 | Xinhuan | most |
| 02:48.25 | Xinhuan | anyway |
| 02:48.33 | Antiarc | Skype doesn't sound as good, IMO, and it's massively more CPU-intensive |
| 02:48.49 | Vonhinten | TS and Vent don't require PTT either, but voice-activation is just problematic across the board imo |
| 02:49.11 | sylvanaar | vox isnt what i mean |
| 02:49.23 | orionshock | anything cpu intensive is a reason to not use it (ie skype) |
| 02:49.32 | Megalon | ie WoW! |
| 02:49.38 | Megalon | herp derp |
| 02:49.41 | Antiarc | Because you're in WoW |
| 02:49.47 | Antiarc | So you have two apps fighting for cycles |
| 02:49.57 | Antiarc | Skype without WoW running is fine |
| 02:50.03 | sylvanaar | well, to be fair, wow doesnt use all the cpu cores |
| 02:50.04 | orionshock | correction, any secondary program like skype that is cpu intensive is a good reason not to use it |
| 02:50.06 | Vonhinten | vent's latency sucks, but what's worse is the backing up of packets... if there's any loss of packets, it sits on the buffer until it gets them it seems... |
| 02:50.16 | Vonhinten | The only way to fix it is to leave the server and let it dump it at you |
| 02:50.21 | Antiarc | Mumble uses UDP by default |
| 02:50.25 | Xinhuan | well if you have more than 2 cores |
| 02:50.28 | Antiarc | So if you start losing packets, they disappear into the ether :P |
| 02:50.33 | Xinhuan | skype can use up an entire core for all it wants |
| 02:50.43 | Antiarc | (It has automatic TCP fallback if UDP can't get through, though) |
| 02:51.26 | Xinhuan | so essentially, vent placed more emphasis on delivery of messages |
| 02:51.41 | Antiarc | Vent is just outdated tech, really. |
| 02:51.48 | Antiarc | It hasn't changed appreciably in ages |
| 02:52.00 | sylvanaar | well that much is true |
| 02:52.04 | Xinhuan | that will probably change |
| 02:52.10 | Antiarc | Oh, Mumble does automatic audio attenuation, too :D |
| 02:52.20 | Xinhuan | when mumble bites vent |
| 02:52.21 | orionshock | i can't wait for the day when it's all XMPP :) |
| 02:52.25 | Antiarc | So I can have music up, and when someone talks, it lowers my music volume, then brings it back up when they're done talking |
| 02:52.31 | Antiarc | I love that feature so hard |
| 02:52.46 | Antiarc | I can blast music while raiding and never miss instructions or whatnot |
| 02:52.49 | sylvanaar | yeah i think i tried it when it was in beta |
| 02:53.22 | Xinhuan | anyone can be a server atm right? |
| 02:53.27 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 02:53.32 | Antiarc | It's open source |
| 02:53.36 | Vonhinten | Yeah Antiarc, there are sound card drivers that do that too |
| 02:53.40 | Antiarc | So you can run your own server if you have bandwidth |
| 02:54.26 | Antiarc | There are also iphone and android clients |
| 02:54.29 | Antiarc | Both early beta, but they work |
| 02:54.31 | Antiarc | (which is pretty awesome) |
| 02:55.14 | Xinhuan | so if vent doesn't buckup |
| 02:55.23 | Xinhuan | it may run out of business in 2 years :P |
| 02:55.31 | Antiarc | There's literally no reason to use Vent over Mumble except for market penetration |
| 02:55.35 | Antiarc | and I'm working on changing that :D |
| 02:55.47 | Antiarc | The barrier to entry is getting people to try it |
| 02:55.50 | Antiarc | But once they do, they love it. |
| 02:55.53 | Antiarc | Just nearly universally. |
| 02:56.01 | Xinhuan | it'll take 1-2 years at the minimum |
| 02:56.05 | Antiarc | Yeah. |
| 02:56.13 | Antiarc | I'm not in a rush. This isn't a paying-the-rent business. |
| 02:56.24 | Xinhuan | a bit like teamspeak vs vent? heh |
| 02:56.25 | Antiarc | It's a hobby slush fund :P |
| 02:56.56 | Antiarc | Mumble's seen a lot of adoption in the past year, though |
| 02:58.14 | Vonhinten | TS and Vent sat on their laurels for too long imo |
| 02:58.45 | sylvanaar | what did they ever get out of it? liscensing fees from the hosting providers? |
| 02:59.04 | orionshock | interesting, i'll have to go check out mumble, im on linux so vent ... & Sound is bitchie in general |
| 02:59.05 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 02:59.08 | Arrowmaster | vent has licensing fees yeah |
| 02:59.11 | Antiarc | Vent's licensing requirements are brutal |
| 02:59.26 | Vonhinten | I'm definitely gonna be spending some time messing with the overlay with mumble |
| 02:59.27 | Antiarc | You have to buy like 10k slots, and sign an agreement to buy X% more every Y months |
| 02:59.31 | Vonhinten | the vent overlay was fucking terrible |
| 02:59.38 | Antiarc | The mumble one is beautiful :D |
| 02:59.46 | Antiarc | If you start Mumble after WoW, /console gxrestart will get it to show up |
| 02:59.51 | Antiarc | If you start WoW after mumble, no problem |
| 02:59.57 | Arrowmaster | somebody made a linux vent client but they say directly on their site that nobody should ever use it, and that people should just use mumble instead |
| 03:00.04 | Antiarc | Mangler, yes |
| 03:00.12 | Antiarc | http://www.mangler.org/ |
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| 03:00.21 | Antiarc | Our projectâs motto is: âNo one should use our software⦠everâ There are 100% open source alternatives to Ventrilo. We highly recommend Mumble for those that are looking into setting up this type of server. |
| 03:01.16 | Antiarc | Vonhinten: Fixed that auth error. Thanks for the heads up. |
| 03:01.22 | Vonhinten | np |
| 03:01.24 | sylvanaar | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/07/18/ventrilo-vs-mumble/ |
| 03:01.26 | Antiarc | Wonder how many aborted subs that's caused. Heh. |
| 03:01.50 | Antiarc | I actually host the Big Crits mumble server :P |
| 03:01.55 | Antiarc | Blood Legion, too. |
| 03:02.01 | Vonhinten | easy metric to check, open accounts versus accounts with active servers :) |
| 03:02.03 | Shadowed | errr what |
| 03:02.09 | Shadowed | wowinsider completely abandoned wowinsider.com too? |
| 03:02.13 | Shadowed | for wow.joystiq.com... the hell |
| 03:02.33 | sylvanaar | yeah idk wtf thats about |
| 03:03.18 | sylvanaar | i think they jacked theier site |
| 03:04.31 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: If you want to test Mumble out I have demo servers up that you can use if you'd like. |
| 03:05.36 | Xinhuan | nah i used it last night while playing worms |
| 03:05.38 | Xinhuan | with a few ppl here |
| 03:06.07 | sylvanaar | this guy is suggesting something like !!!Libs for saved variables right? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26850277038&sid=2000 |
| 03:06.25 | sylvanaar | i cant really get what hes saying |
| 03:07.00 | Shadowed | Hrm? |
| 03:07.09 | Shadowed | It sounds pretty straightforward to me, if you name a SV FooBar, it's saved as FooBar.lua |
| 03:07.43 | sylvanaar | he wants addons to share the sv files |
| 03:07.52 | sylvanaar | no? |
| 03:08.21 | Shadowed | Pretty sure he's proposing a way of unlinking addons from SV naming, so a library could do SV work without needing an addon |
| 03:08.35 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 03:08.38 | Xinhuan | that would be a pretty big change |
| 03:08.42 | sylvanaar | so |
| 03:09.03 | Xinhuan | first post is pretty clear |
| 03:09.32 | Shadowed | yea I'm not sure where you are getting what you're saying syl :p |
| 03:09.36 | Vonhinten | absolutely not |
| 03:09.37 | Shadowed | but the odds of it ever happening is basically 0 |
| 03:10.05 | Vonhinten | I don't want addons choosing where to store shit. I want to know that variables partaining to Grid are in Grid.lua |
| 03:10.39 | sylvanaar | how could it work though |
| 03:10.50 | Shadowed | It would pretty much mean bringing back RegisterForSave |
| 03:10.57 | Xinhuan | the purpose of the proposal is to create SavedVars that can be shared by multiple addons |
| 03:11.10 | sylvanaar | yeah |
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| 03:11.13 | sylvanaar | i got that part |
| 03:12.09 | sylvanaar | i guess i get it - but each load would just erase the currently loaded sv's |
| 03:12.24 | Xinhuan | not at all? |
| 03:12.35 | sylvanaar | thats how it works now |
| 03:12.39 | Xinhuan | support for such a Savedvar would ensure that it only gets loaded once |
| 03:12.44 | Xinhuan | its stated in the first post |
| 03:12.56 | sylvanaar | i see |
| 03:13.31 | Vonhinten | Antiarc, did you say there was a way to add a CNAME? |
| 03:13.59 | Antiarc | Vonhinten: In your domain's DNS, you can just set up a cname to point to whatever host you're on |
| 03:14.14 | Antiarc | So if you're at foobar.com, go into your DNS and set mumble CNAME west1.mmo-mumble.com or whatnot |
| 03:14.22 | Antiarc | And that'll route mumble.foobar.com to west1.mmo-mumble.com |
| 03:14.37 | Vonhinten | oh, my own DNS, I see |
| 03:14.39 | sylvanaar | or use dyndns |
| 03:14.44 | Antiarc | (That's not something I can do as I don't control your DNS, obviously) |
| 03:15.02 | Vonhinten | Yeah, wasn't sure if you meant that you could add aliases |
| 03:15.29 | Antiarc | I thought about providing pick-your-own-subdomain stuff, but decided against it in the interest of simplicity, since cnames are more valuable anyhow |
| 03:15.32 | sylvanaar | i like the other suggestion someone made about realm specific saved variables though |
| 03:17.33 | Xinhuan | well it'll just about get used as often as char specific saved vars |
| 03:18.09 | Xinhuan | although i suppose there's a wider range of uses for realm-specific data |
| 03:18.22 | Antiarc | The problem with char-specific is that it's very narrow |
| 03:18.27 | sylvanaar | well, since your char is basically a key of account-realm-character, it seems like a scope is missing |
| 03:18.28 | orionshock | i like the variable specific sv stuff |
| 03:18.30 | Antiarc | realm-specific is usually broad enough for most purposes |
| 03:19.13 | Xinhuan | i can see realm-specific data working for AH-data, data for people you like/dislike on your server, data for your guild-specific stuff, etc |
| 03:19.25 | sylvanaar | alts |
| 03:19.29 | Antiarc | How much stuff do you wantto take cross-realm usually anyhow? |
| 03:20.01 | Shadowed | I could sear they shot down realm specific SVs |
| 03:20.05 | Shadowed | a longggg time ago |
| 03:20.24 | Xinhuan | well UI design has also evolved a looooong time ago |
| 03:20.26 | sylvanaar | they probably did - though you know they store thier data in that scope |
| 03:20.49 | Xinhuan | i don't think they ever expected addon modding to be so popular to spawn multiple websites and businesses for it |
| 03:21.09 | sylvanaar | the addon list for example is pretty much per realm - which makes really no sense at all |
| 03:21.25 | Xinhuan | actually the addon list isn't per-realm |
| 03:21.29 | Xinhuan | its per-char |
| 03:21.48 | Xinhuan | it just checks thru ALL your chars on the realm you are on whether to display a fully shaded tick or not |
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| 03:22.31 | Sir3nX | =] |
| 03:23.29 | Xinhuan | once you're logged in, enable/disable an addon with Lua would only enable/disable it for that char you are on |
| 03:24.50 | sylvanaar | yes but nevertheless there's a ui for controlling the addon list for the whole realm (as opposed to everywhere) |
| 03:25.18 | Xinhuan | but its in a location inaccessible to addons itself |
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| 03:27.39 | sylvanaar | thats sort of what i was saying...they use that scope for things themselves |
| 03:29.47 | sylvanaar | there is actually a savedvariables file for each realm isnt there |
| 03:31.09 | sylvanaar | heh maybe not |
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| 03:48.41 | Repo | 10big-brother: 03oscarucb * r228 / (8 files in 2 directories): |
| 03:48.43 | Repo | FIX: default to suppressing events that don't involve group members (eg dueling in dalaran) |
| 03:51.43 | Repo | 10big-brother: 03oscarucb 043.1.0 beta6 * r229 : Tagging as 3.1.0 beta6 |
| 03:51.45 | Repo | 3.1.0 beta6 adds: |
| 03:51.46 | Repo | FIX: default to suppressing events that don't involve group members (eg dueling in dalaran) |
| 03:58.47 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx 07ace3 * r1319 / (11 files in 2 directories): - Use namespace object as AceAddon object |
| 03:58.49 | Repo | - GridCore to Ace3 |
| 03:58.50 | Repo | - GridLDB to Ace3 |
| 04:01.56 | orionshock | i have a feeling that alts & mains are going to become more important come cata / 4.0. not that i'll be really huge, but more significant than now. |
| 04:02.04 | orionshock | guilds could hold lvling contests :) |
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| 04:08.51 | Yssaril | orionshock: alts have separate guild level? (should be the same imo) |
| 04:09.18 | Yssaril | i haven'tread up on the new guild stuff yet |
| 04:09.48 | orionshock | sadly blizzard did not add in some sort of alt/main system of their own :( |
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| 04:10.09 | Yssaril | bah |
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| 04:34.19 | sylvanaar | wonder why they didnt |
| 04:50.04 | nebula | what would they add? real id is good enough for me to tie all my chars to one identity |
| 04:51.16 | Yssaril | nebula: a sane way of identifying alts in your guild without requiring different ranks or 3rd party addons |
| 04:52.05 | nebula | ah |
| 04:53.34 | Vonhinten | Antiarc, how important is the ?version=1.2.0 on the URL? |
| 04:53.50 | Antiarc | Important. Otherwise, if you have a 1.1.x client installed, it tries to open in that and fails. |
| 04:54.05 | Vonhinten | fack |
| 04:55.12 | Vonhinten | They should just proxy it so it doesn't need that |
| 04:55.26 | Vonhinten | get the version from the server and use the proper engine |
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| 05:02.13 | Talryn | Real ID requires giving out your account id so I doubt most guilds would do that between all members. |
| 05:04.21 | Vonhinten | wow, mumble has lower latency than my fucking phone |
| 05:04.26 | Vonhinten | try that with vent |
| 05:07.47 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r620 modules/Scrollback.lua: |
| 05:07.49 | Repo | add a marker to indicate where the scrollback ends and the current chat begins. maybe in the furture i'll desaturate the colors of the scrollback instead |
| 05:09.13 | orionshock | Talryn, tbh, i don't have a problem with it, expecially because i use the same email for just about everything. You can look at the toc file of any of my addons to get my email & the one i use for wow.. |
| 05:09.27 | orionshock | granted... I have authenticator so im not too worried about it :) |
| 05:09.42 | Talryn | I think for some people they don't mind but I think a lot of people aren't going to share it with every person out there. |
| 05:09.58 | Talryn | Some guilds are a small group of friends and others are huge. |
| 05:11.16 | quiescens | blarg |
| 05:15.03 | Repo | 10what-killed-my-grounding-totem (experimental): 03rohnishka 04v1.0-release * r9 : |
| 05:15.05 | Repo | Tagging as v1.0-release. WKMGT is a mod designed to inform you when your grounding totem dies, and who killed it with what. |
| 05:15.21 | Avis | Is removing buffs protected now or something ? |
| 05:16.35 | orionshock | Avis, sadly yes |
| 05:17.20 | orionshock | poke Torhal |
| 05:36.05 | Torhal | orionshock: pokeback |
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| 05:47.26 | Vonhinten | ok, don't like the noise cancellation, turned that off |
| 05:47.46 | Vonhinten | And for some reason, my buddy's voice start real low, and then ramps up after 3 seconds |
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| 05:56.15 | orionshock | Vonhinten, each time or jsut at first? |
| 05:57.35 | sbu | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26859147653/no-changes-to-thunder-bluff-at-all/ |
| 05:57.36 | sbu | lol :) |
| 05:58.16 | Vonhinten | orionshock, happens often |
| 05:58.39 | orionshock | Vonhinten, that's prolly the auto volume adjusting that Antiarc talked about |
| 05:59.33 | Vonhinten | yes, it's the normalizing, most likely |
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| 06:06.16 | orionshock | Vonhinten, rule one of opensource, always look for options.. they are bound to be there :) |
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| 06:07.21 | Vonhinten | yeah, there are a number of things I'm messing with, there are amplification settings, mic settings, audio config settings for minimum whisper volume or something |
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| 06:42.16 | Primer | How does one save the current chat log? |
| 06:45.00 | quiescens | with considerable difficulty |
| 06:45.49 | orionshock | Primer, /chatlog |
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| 06:53.17 | quiesense | blargh |
| 06:53.27 | Primer | thanks |
| 06:53.36 | quiescens | blames orionshock |
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| 06:54.05 | orionshock | ... |
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| 07:12.40 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx 07ace3 * r1320 / (17 files in 1 directory): - Almost everything to Ace3 |
| 07:12.42 | Repo | - GridStatusAuras isn't converted yet (and it's commented out in the TOC) |
| 07:12.43 | Repo | - Updating stuff mostly doesn't work at the moment, since AceEvent-3.0 sometimes (but not always) passes the event as the first argument to event handlers, while AceEvent-2.0 never passed the event, and I'm waiting to hear back from the Ace3 team as to why AE3 isn't consistent with regard to passing the event. |
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| 07:15.14 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03whizkid * r97 Minimalist.lua: |
| 07:15.16 | Repo | Minimalist: - Added option to hide the mail button from the Minimap (default = off) |
| 07:16.11 | Repo | 10raidinfo (experimental): 03pigmonkey 04v1.0 * r15 : Cleanup |
| 07:16.18 | Repo | 10raidinfo (experimental): 03pigmonkey 04v1.0.1 * r16 : Cleanup |
| 07:16.25 | Repo | 10raidinfo (experimental): 03pigmonkey 04v1.0.2 * r17 : Cleanup |
| 07:16.33 | Repo | 10raidinfo (experimental): 03pigmonkey 04v1.0 * r18 : Tagging as v1.0 |
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| 07:24.42 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx 07ace3 * r1321 / (9 files in 1 directory): - AceEvent-3.0 fixes, I'm an idiot :( |
| 07:26.07 | Repo | 10libdbicon-1-0: 03Rabbit * r15 LibDBIcon-1.0/LibDBIcon-1.0.lua: Drycoded fixes for elkanos issues. |
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| 07:28.23 | Zhinjio | kagaro: did you get my message? |
| 07:30.24 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts (experimental): 03MSaint * r52 GridConfigurableLayouts.lua: Tweaks for efficiency |
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| 07:53.28 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/raidinfo/. RaidInfo. pigmonkey (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 07:58.48 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r155 MRTAPI.lua: - First round of support for badge plugins. |
| 07:58.51 | Repo | - Initial support for displaying what skills offer multiple skill-ups in Cataclysm. |
| 07:59.00 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r156 / (7 files in 4 directories): - First round of support for badge plugins. |
| 07:59.02 | Repo | - Initial support for displaying what skills offer multiple skill-ups in Cataclysm. |
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| 08:09.15 | Elkano | Fisker, is that you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_lmMmYAyow |
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| 08:36.05 | Zhinjio | Elkano: question for you |
| 08:36.24 | Zhinjio | Elkano: remember that guild manager thinger I started so long ago? |
| 08:37.03 | Elkano | yeah |
| 08:37.23 | Zhinjio | you want it? I was just gonna turn it to "abandoned" status if you don't |
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| 08:38.54 | Elkano | well, with cataclysm it's outdated anyways so abandoned/inactive should be fine |
| 08:39.01 | Zhinjio | nods |
| 08:39.01 | Zhinjio | k |
| 08:39.32 | sbu | mhh.. so is there an quest helper/carbonite/whatever thingie yet for cataclysm? |
| 08:40.30 | Elkano | btw, any idea why my game keeps auto-accepting lowlevel quests :/ |
| 08:40.46 | Zhinjio | no, but mine is doing it too |
| 08:40.48 | sbu | beta? |
| 08:40.51 | Zhinjio | I thought it might be SOCD |
| 08:41.03 | Zhinjio | no, not beta |
| 08:42.29 | Elkano | not running socd |
| 08:45.08 | Elkano | the strange thing is that they are accepted without a call to AcceptQuest |
| 08:46.09 | Fisker | bitches Elkano |
| 08:46.33 | Zhinjio | yeah, I noticed that. the quest window stays open |
| 08:49.05 | Elkano | maybe it's a blizzard bug? |
| 08:50.28 | Zhinjio | I can't imagine its intentional |
| 08:50.38 | Zhinjio | I got this on a freshly started tauren toon |
| 08:51.06 | Zhinjio | so it wasn't a "low level" quest in comparison to my level, just low level period. |
| 08:51.09 | Zhinjio | not sure if you meant the same thing |
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| 09:00.37 | quiescens | moo? |
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| 09:08.24 | Fisker | it is intentional Zhinjio |
| 09:08.39 | Zhinjio | oh? its intentional to make the interface less intuitive? |
| 09:09.07 | Fisker | sure |
| 09:10.16 | Fisker | Though maybe one could consider that the reason the window stays open is so that the player can actually read it as well |
| 09:10.31 | Zhinjio | the they should remove the accept quest button |
| 09:10.35 | Zhinjio | if thats the intent |
| 09:10.45 | Fisker | Maybe that would require a client side patch |
| 09:10.46 | wink | sounds horrible |
| 09:11.01 | wink | "hey, our users are too dumb to accept quests, let's automate it" |
| 09:12.25 | Zhinjio | I'm actually ok with it, but it a) should be optional (as quick reading of quests is), and b) should be "fully" implemented by disabling or removing the accept quest button if thats the intent |
| 09:12.47 | Zhinjio | otherwise, its just fucking sloppy |
| 09:12.58 | Zhinjio | and there's not excuse for sloppy after 5 goddamn years of this |
| 09:13.01 | Fisker | or maybe removing the accept quest button just helps to confuse the user even more? |
| 09:15.49 | Zhinjio | then put "THIS QUEST HAS BEEN ACCEPTED INTO YOUR QUESTLOG" at the top for morons |
| 09:16.50 | quiescens | just change the button to say "close" instead of accept, and have a "drop quest" or something maybe |
| 09:16.56 | Zhinjio | *nods* |
| 09:17.08 | Zhinjio | also good |
| 09:17.23 | wink | I've found myself *much* more often nto accepting a quest than misclicking and not accepting it if I wanted to |
| 09:17.49 | quiescens | or they could just make the quest log say, 40 or 50 instead of 20 so that you can actually have a zone worth of quests in your log and still go do a set of instance quests or what not |
| 09:18.03 | wink | yeah |
| 09:18.10 | wink | is it 20 in beta? not 25? |
| 09:18.29 | quiescens | I don't know what it is |
| 09:18.55 | quiescens | I just think the arbitrary limit seems silly |
| 09:19.39 | asmodai | sighs |
| 09:19.49 | wink | like bagspace? ;) |
| 09:19.50 | asmodai | Why do people suck so much at the role they play/take up in MMOs? |
| 09:20.10 | wink | asmodai: they're new or they suck at every role maybe? |
| 09:20.16 | Zhinjio | sounds like someone just got a bad pug tank/healer |
| 09:20.18 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 09:20.20 | quiescens | bagspace is different |
| 09:20.40 | quiescens | it has (however minor), some actual implications |
| 09:21.26 | Zhinjio | bagspace is ok, I think |
| 09:21.40 | Zhinjio | I actually got really excited when I got papa's new bag and brand new bags |
| 09:21.40 | quiescens | like, if you had infinite space you could carry everything with you at all times and would then react differently in some situations |
| 09:23.22 | Zhinjio | I *would* like there to be something like the pet/mount thinger for tabards |
| 09:23.29 | Zhinjio | and perhaps also for "trophies" |
| 09:23.43 | Zhinjio | so I could store stuff I'm proud of having gotten in game that probably won't ever get used again |
| 09:23.47 | Zhinjio | and free up the bank slots |
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| 09:56.52 | fakeh | Anyone know if UNIT_AURA is fired when a weapon enchantment changes? |
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| 10:03.39 | phyber | how is it that when tracking a remote repo in git (tekkub's UI source in this case) I can get a whole bunch of conflicts from the 'git pull' when i've done nothing to modify it locally? |
| 10:04.07 | harl | hi |
| 10:06.41 | sbu | don't track tekkub, it's a trap |
| 10:08.26 | phyber | I'll remain vigilant. |
| 10:11.10 | vhaarr | man Searing Gorge is just really broken |
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| 10:32.12 | wink | quiescens: I've never understood those "I left my healing gear/simple grinder/etc in bank" - I'm a total packrat and I hardly run out of space :/ |
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| 12:12.14 | Repo | 10bislist: 03MigGat * r13 / (10 files in 2 directories): v0.1.6 beta |
| 12:13.27 | Repo | 10bislist: 03MigGat 04v.0.1.6 release * r14 : Tagging as v.0.1.6 release |
| 12:29.54 | fakeh | GameTooltip:SetInventoryItem should give me every bit of the tooltip right? For some reason I'm only getting everything under the stats (e.g. I don't get anything above or including +xx Spirit but I get everything below and including an +63 Spell Power enchant) |
| 12:30.34 | Xinhuan | interfering addon? |
| 12:31.57 | fakeh | Only my own and I don't do anything else elsewhere. |
| 12:32.23 | fakeh | I created the GameTooltip in Lua |
| 12:32.30 | Xinhuan | did u call :setowner before it? |
| 12:32.35 | Xinhuan | and a :show() after |
| 12:32.54 | fakeh | Maybe I need special names for the texts that display these things? And not just unnamed fontstrings with AddFontString? |
| 12:33.07 | Xinhuan | nope anoymouse is fine |
| 12:33.12 | Xinhuan | but the setowner is needed |
| 12:33.28 | fakeh | It's owned by UIParent and is a hidden frame for scanning temporary weapon enchantments |
| 12:33.57 | Xinhuan | how did u create your frame |
| 12:34.05 | VonhintenHOME` | the fact that 5 years in we're still parsing fucking tooltip text is unbelievable to me |
| 12:34.16 | fakeh | Heh, 2nded Vonhin |
| 12:34.23 | fakeh | Sec, I'll do a quick paste somewhere |
| 12:37.15 | Repo | 10dualspeccer: 03Jeffrey0 07cataclysm * r17 : |
| 12:37.17 | Repo | Branch for Cataclysm. This version isn't compatible with live 3.3 (the live version works reasonably well in 4.0, though). |
| 12:38.00 | Repo | 10dualspeccer: 03Jeffrey0 07cataclysm * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory): Commit updated files. |
| 12:38.23 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach 07cataclysm * r2801 LootTableModules/Cataclysm/cataclysm.lua: Added new pets and mounts. |
| 12:39.27 | Xinhuan | you're not being quick about it ;p |
| 12:40.21 | fakeh | phone |
| 12:40.32 | fakeh | soz |
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| 12:46.13 | fakeh | back |
| 12:46.17 | fakeh | http://paste.wowace.com/2478/ |
| 12:48.15 | Xinhuan | the problem is that you are inheriting |
| 12:48.21 | Xinhuan | from GameTooltipTemplate |
| 12:48.31 | Xinhuan | don't do that |
| 12:48.38 | Xinhuan | it already comes with like the fontstrings |
| 12:48.45 | fakeh | Ah OK |
| 12:48.48 | Xinhuan | so yuo're adding even more fontstrings to its exiting ones |
| 12:48.49 | Xinhuan | existing |
| 12:49.36 | fakeh | so I don't need to AddFontString at all? |
| 12:49.43 | Xinhuan | here's what i did |
| 12:49.44 | Xinhuan | http://paste.wowace.com/2479/ |
| 12:50.45 | Xinhuan | and |
| 12:50.49 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx 07ace3 * r1324 / (3 files in 1 directory): - GridStatusAuras -> Ace3 |
| 12:50.51 | fakeh | Thanks a lot Xin |
| 12:50.51 | Repo | - Add LibDualSpec-1.0 |
| 12:50.51 | Xinhuan | the tooltip name CAN definitely be nil |
| 12:50.52 | Repo | - Everything seems to be working at the moment, but actual playtesting is required before we're ready for beta testers |
| 12:50.54 | Repo | - No changes for Cataclysm/4.0 yet |
| 12:51.02 | Xinhuan | since i'm not inheritting from the template |
| 12:52.11 | kagaro | Zhinjio: no guess not |
| 12:55.52 | fakeh | Great, it works. Thanks again Xin |
| 12:57.08 | Adirelle|work | how are europeans supposed to copy 85 premades on the beta ? |
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| 13:38.49 | Aikar | anyone know an addon (I use to have it in Vanilla but cant remember name) thatll hide known recipes at the AH? AuctionFilterPlus looks like same addon i use to use but it doesnt have a hide known feature |
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| 13:45.02 | evl | ACKs recipie list? |
| 13:51.10 | Ackis | that doesn't filter them from the AH |
| 13:51.19 | Ackis | there's built in functionality for that per toon |
| 13:51.28 | Ackis | aka click on usable items |
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| 14:31.23 | Aikar | Ackis: that still shows ones i know o.o |
| 14:31.30 | Aikar | i want to hide the ones ive already learned |
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| 14:31.52 | Aikar | but i did install ARL last night |
| 14:31.57 | Aikar | havent messed with it yet |
| 14:34.21 | Ackis | when I do a search via the AH and check usable items and have my filter in the misc -> professions/recipes it only shows ones I don't know (which is an empty list except for librams) |
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| 14:36.37 | Axodious | there a working grid or grid2 somewhere for beta? |
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| 14:41.25 | Aikar | Ackis: hmm ill have to double check that then |
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| 14:53.22 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: could you please fix profiles in Sexycooldown? :( |
| 14:54.37 | Aikar | anyone know where the background downloader stores the patch dl? i cant seem to find any indication its working and i even found the process turned off this weekend |
| 14:56.20 | phyber | <WoWDirectory>/Updates |
| 14:56.40 | phyber | or just use something like ProcessExplorer to see what files the background downloader has open while it's downloading and find out that way. |
| 14:56.53 | phyber | since i think it can store it in other places but i'm not sure where :) |
| 14:57.39 | Aikar | yeah nothing for 4.0 in that folder and backgrounddownloader.exe is not running again ;( |
| 14:58.22 | Aikar | do they usually do open beta for expansions? |
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| 15:27.11 | kagaro | anyone know if the brewfest mounts this year drop from the boss ot the daily bag? |
| 15:27.51 | Ackis | kagaro: from some chest apparently |
| 15:28.14 | kagaro | ok so form the daily reward then |
| 15:28.31 | Ackis | "With the new group interface joining for the Brewfest event, just like for summer solstice, the mounts are obtainable via Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest and no longer drop for Coren." |
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| 15:57.26 | Avis | Wow, fixing my action bar addon to be able to click off buffs was easier than i thought it would be, even though i'd never used secure fraems before |
| 15:58.27 | arkanes | Avis: oh do share |
| 16:02.06 | Avis | just have to make the buff frames buttons, inherate the secure button templates, and set the type, unit, and index attributes |
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| 16:04.53 | Aikar | i cant get my background downloader to DL :( |
| 16:05.32 | quiescens | kick it |
| 16:06.59 | Axodious | feed it the souls of the weak! |
| 16:07.39 | SunTsu | Aikar: yeah, feed Fisker to it |
| 16:07.48 | Axodious | i was contemplating saying that |
| 16:07.49 | Axodious | lol |
| 16:07.54 | SunTsu | oh, dang, no soul there |
| 16:08.02 | Axodious | that's what i was thinking |
| 16:08.05 | Axodious | XD |
| 16:08.06 | Aikar | i even tried running launcher as admin, i see process start up but it goes away |
| 16:08.13 | Aikar | no mention of 4.0 in updates folder :/ |
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| 16:08.35 | Aikar | downloader options are set to download in and out of game w/o throttle (im at work atm anyways) |
| 16:08.55 | steev | Aikar: get out and push |
| 16:09.44 | Aikar | 16:00:24.6520 No server-side background download settings found |
| 16:10.04 | Aikar | O.o thats odd, blue posts saying its ready and launcher is telling me its ready |
| 16:10.37 | steev | did you get the most recent update? |
| 16:10.37 | VonhintenHOME` | oh man, stock market having a good day today |
| 16:10.52 | Aikar | im playing the game so yes? |
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| 16:12.29 | Groktar | grr |
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| 16:18.48 | Aikar | renamed bg downloader and running repair, looks like latest downloader is lame? |
| 16:19.09 | Parnic|Work | mine wasn't working until the tools patch on saturday. then it just started downloading the full 4gb |
| 16:20.06 | Aikar | tools patch o.o? |
| 16:20.11 | Aikar | i didnt get any patch |
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| 16:29.21 | Aikar | hmm |
| 16:29.25 | Aikar | anyone got stage 1 torrent? |
| 16:30.14 | Parnic|Work | aikar: on saturday the game client patched after logging in |
| 16:30.34 | Parnic|Work | but it only updated the tools |
| 16:32.15 | Aikar | oh looks like bg dler was doing both (4gb total when its really 2 parts totalling 4gb), but im doing over uTorrent anyways |
| 16:32.35 | Aikar | but using repair util to restore older version of downloader did work |
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| 16:35.14 | Aikar | utorrent getting 175-350kb/s |
| 16:36.10 | Aikar | Parnic|Work: are you on a mac? |
| 16:37.26 | Aikar | the thread i found torrent on (stickied by blue so i know its safe) said something bout update to fix downloader too, but i didnt get one on windows |
| 16:41.36 | fakeh | People have been getting them at very different times, looks like they're staggered a lot |
| 16:42.02 | Parnic|Work | aikar: no, i'm on windows |
| 16:42.08 | fakeh | Someone said on here that they had a patch and I checked, multiple times throughout the day and didn't get it till this morning |
| 16:42.40 | Parnic|Work | yeah, could be region-related or something. who knows |
| 16:43.11 | Aikar | oh ok |
| 16:43.18 | Aikar | well i logged in this morning and nothing |
| 16:43.24 | Aikar | do you need to use launcher to get it? |
| 16:43.30 | fakeh | I didn't |
| 16:43.32 | Aikar | cause i cant use launcher :3 |
| 16:43.46 | Parnic|Work | no, it grabbed the update through the game for some reason |
| 16:43.52 | Aikar | i run dual monitor and have to use a shortcut to make wow open on 2nd monitor |
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| 16:45.03 | Aikar | are these prepatch dl's same for win and mac right? no mention of OS in file name. cause i got the torrent off the mac support forum |
| 16:45.14 | Parnic|Work | i dunno |
| 16:45.42 | Pneumatus | Parnic|Work: i'm quite impressed you managed to replace aceoo with like 15 lins of code :o |
| 16:46.07 | Aikar | hmm? link? |
| 16:46.09 | Parnic|Work | pneumatus: that was all ckknight. i used liblinq and then picked his brain for about 15mins. he rocks :) |
| 16:46.29 | Aikar | id get into WoW UI dev but i dont really have any ideas on anything to make :( |
| 16:46.44 | Parnic|Work | aikar: he's talking about icehud |
| 16:46.46 | Parnic|Work | @project ice-hud |
| 16:46.51 | ckknight | waves |
| 16:46.51 | Repo | Parnic|Work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/. IceHUD. Game: WoW. Parnic (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 hours ago. Tickets: 2/76 |
| 16:47.05 | Aikar | well got a few things id like changed with auctioneer stuff but i dont want to do a branch |
| 16:48.22 | Pneumatus | i think it's only Grid and HeadCount i've got running ace2 now |
| 16:48.33 | Parnic|Work | i saw some grid/ace3 rumblings over the weekend |
| 16:48.41 | Parnic|Work | sounds like that's getting upgraded. may already be done |
| 16:48.52 | Pneumatus | yeh, phanx is on the case for grid |
| 16:49.00 | Pneumatus | headcount is basically abandonware now though |
| 16:49.01 | Aikar | kinda surprised ace2 is still used 5 years later lol |
| 16:49.17 | Stanzilla | there is a ace3 branch for headcount |
| 16:49.21 | Stanzilla | but very unfinished |
| 16:49.23 | Parnic|Work | aikar: well there was typically no reason to upgrade for mods that were working fine on ace2 :) |
| 16:49.29 | Stanzilla | and I think kagaro won't finisht it :p |
| 16:49.34 | Pneumatus | kagaro has said he's not working on it (and he was the one that started it) |
| 16:50.07 | Parnic|Work | pneumatus: my experience was that ace3 was pretty much a drop-in replacement. aceoo turned out to be easy, acedb can be annoying because of some subtle option table changes, and aceevent may be problematic if TriggerEvent is used |
| 16:50.13 | Pneumatus | closed repo, ARR license etc means it can't be forked either |
| 16:50.17 | Parnic|Work | other than that it's find/replace 2 with 3 thing :P |
| 16:50.39 | Pneumatus | well, maybe phanx might be able to use your aceoo replacement for grid for a simple transition, idk |
| 16:50.50 | Pneumatus | the rest is simple though, i agree |
| 16:50.50 | Parnic|Work | i'd be surprised if grid used aceoo |
| 16:50.55 | Pneumatus | it does |
| 16:50.59 | Pneumatus | thats why its still ace2 |
| 16:51.04 | Parnic|Work | makes sense :) |
| 16:51.13 | Talryn | Doesn't the move to Grid2 solve the Ace problem? |
| 16:51.20 | Pneumatus | grid2 is a pile of shit |
| 16:51.36 | Parnic|Work | lol |
| 16:51.50 | Talryn | I was using it and I liked it... |
| 16:52.39 | Stanzilla | it's beyond broken |
| 16:52.46 | Pneumatus | each to their own, i suppose; but there's a good reason why the original Grid is being ported |
| 16:52.48 | Talryn | What's the problem with it? |
| 16:54.21 | Pneumatus | well, it's not complete for a start |
| 16:54.23 | Talryn | Problems on the coding side or functionality issues? |
| 16:54.36 | Talryn | Yeah, I assumed it would be finished. Bad assumption maybe? |
| 16:55.19 | Pneumatus | it's been in development for ~2 years and still hasn't reached release |
| 16:56.56 | kagaro | i didnt do any more work on headcount cause i stopped using it for raids .. so the incentive was lost |
| 16:57.02 | Talryn | I see. I think I only noticed it a few months ago. |
| 16:57.44 | Pneumatus | kagaro: yeh, and band-aid patches only go so far, hacking in difficulties etc was a pain in the ass because it went against the original core design |
| 16:58.23 | Pneumatus | not to mention handling every possible way of boss triggering/ending in a system that was inherantly designed to watch for deaths |
| 16:58.43 | arkanes | hey, at least its not healbot |
| 16:58.52 | ckknight | good architecture is important. |
| 16:59.54 | Pneumatus | quite, although it looks like we're moving to loot council for 4.0 anyway so half of the functionality of a raid tracker wouldn't be important to me anymore either |
| 17:00.15 | kagaro | yeah same Pneumatus |
| 17:00.23 | arkanes | I find that the best software in general, as well as addons, is written by people scratching their own itches |
| 17:00.30 | Pneumatus | it would still be nice to have a tracker that logged loot from bosses over a raid though, for archival purposes |
| 17:00.35 | kagaro | we are dropping from 25 man to 10 man so its not really important anymore |
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| 17:00.57 | Pneumatus | even without it being linked to DKP values and whatnot, i'd like to continue keeping a historical view of progress/drops |
| 17:00.59 | kagaro | ive got 75% raid tracker built into raidwatch, still need to put a front end on it |
| 17:03.32 | Talryn | I've been using Raid Tracker for similar purposes as Pneumatus. It's a nice feature to have. |
| 17:03.47 | Pneumatus | isn't raid tracker a boss mod though? |
| 17:04.20 | Talryn | I don't think there is another and the one I'm using just records raid attendance and loot. |
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| 17:05.07 | Pneumatus | oh, the old CT_RaidTracker? |
| 17:05.21 | Pneumatus | last i checked that was even more broken than headcount |
| 17:05.30 | Kaelten | how many major addons do we still have running on ace2? |
| 17:05.45 | Kaelten | is it jut grid, or is it other stuff too? |
| 17:05.49 | Talryn | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ka_raid-tracker.aspx |
| 17:05.54 | Pneumatus | Grid is probably the biggest, Kaelten |
| 17:06.06 | Talryn | That's the Raid Tracker I'm talking about. Apparently there were some older mods with the same name. |
| 17:06.12 | Pneumatus | oh, actually, FuBar is probably the biggest |
| 17:06.24 | Kaelten | :/ |
| 17:06.28 | ckknight | no |
| 17:06.31 | Pneumatus | dunno if PallyPower has been rewritten (or even needed) |
| 17:06.32 | ckknight | FuBar doesn't use Ace2 |
| 17:07.01 | Pneumatus | ckknight: it shows in the deps, maybe due to dewdrop or something? |
| 17:07.06 | Parnic|Work | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace2/reverse-relationships/ still lists IceHUD for some reason. but ArkInventory seems like it's a pretty big mod |
| 17:07.09 | ckknight | oh yea, probably dewdrop |
| 17:07.22 | Pneumatus | Parnic: only updates on release iirc |
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| 17:07.34 | Parnic|Work | pneumatus: i have a couple releases that are ace2-free |
| 17:07.37 | Kaelten | 220 addons still |
| 17:07.48 | Pneumatus | lots of abandonware in that list though |
| 17:07.54 | Kaelten | that's true |
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| 17:08.02 | Parnic|Work | kaelten: i'm not sure that list is correct. like i said, IceHUD doesn't have ace2 but is listed there, for example |
| 17:08.07 | Kaelten | how bad is ace2 broken, I haven't tried running it yet |
| 17:08.11 | Parnic|Work | it's not |
| 17:08.15 | Pneumatus | ace2 is fine |
| 17:09.30 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: the bulk of the first few pages of Ace2's deps look like FuBar plugins, largely |
| 17:10.12 | Pneumatus | infact, 81 of them |
| 17:11.06 | Kaelten | heh |
| 17:11.53 | Pneumatus | Parnic: maybe it's a tag of ace2 thats needed to update its reverse relationships |
| 17:12.54 | Pneumatus | hmm, android 2.2 just popped on my phone... i should dis-associate my authenticator just incase, shouldnt i |
| 17:13.15 | Parnic|Work | pneumatus: ah, that sounds reasonable |
| 17:13.41 | Pneumatus | well, that and if i get DCd in the next 30 mins or whatever i wont be able to get in :) |
| 17:14.10 | Kaelten | I am worried that if we don't EOL ace2, that it'll get used forever |
| 17:14.35 | Parnic|Work | i wouldn't have taken the plunge with IceHUD if i hadn't heard from people in here that ace2 was being frozen |
| 17:14.40 | Pneumatus | well, no one new is using it and the major users are all moving off now |
| 17:14.42 | Parnic|Work | so yeah, that seems like a completely justified fear |
| 17:15.04 | Kaelten | so I don't like the idea of addons breaking and may never come back |
| 17:15.12 | Kaelten | but at the same time, we can't support ace2 forever |
| 17:15.49 | Aikar | Pneumatus: would be a good idea. but you can also use a 3rd party auth called FlexAuth that lets you backup token and restore it if needed |
| 17:15.50 | Kaelten | Parnic|Work: exactly |
| 17:15.53 | Takika | I have Ace1 addon, which works correctly atm :) |
| 17:16.05 | Kaelten | Takika: hehe |
| 17:16.07 | Pneumatus | Aikar: you'd need a rooted phone for that, i'd assume |
| 17:16.11 | Aikar | nope |
| 17:16.17 | Aikar | not to use it as a replacement authenticator |
| 17:16.31 | Takika | Kaelten: But I think i have to modify Ace1 to work on PTR :( |
| 17:16.34 | Aikar | if you want it to mirror blizzard authenticator you need to root phone so you can see your secret key |
| 17:16.37 | Pneumatus | oh, you just use it as an independant authenticator? |
| 17:16.39 | Aikar | yea |
| 17:16.42 | Aikar | its nicer |
| 17:16.45 | Aikar | it has widget :) |
| 17:16.53 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 17:16.54 | Aikar | so i got WidgetLocker and got the widget on my lock screen |
| 17:17.15 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: ace2 hasn't really been supported in god knows how long anyway |
| 17:17.19 | Aikar | you only need to 'mirror blizzards' if you use MobileAH |
| 17:17.31 | Parnic|Work | pneumatus: no, but it has been fixed when a wow patch broke it |
| 17:17.31 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: well the intent was is that we'd let it limp along during 3.x |
| 17:17.32 | Aikar | so the auto import key still works |
| 17:17.37 | Kaelten | as a transition period |
| 17:18.10 | Pneumatus | well, it still needs to break for it to be an issue anyway :) |
| 17:18.20 | Parnic|Work | ^^ i was just typing that out |
| 17:18.33 | Aikar | and Pneumatus FlexAuth is written by a popular addon dev, i think he makes Grid? |
| 17:18.40 | Pneumatus | pastamancer? |
| 17:18.42 | Parnic|Work | since 4.0 hasn't broken it, people still are unlikely to switch |
| 17:19.54 | kagaro | has anyone noticed any signifigant fps loss with gathermate2 on the beta? |
| 17:19.59 | Pneumatus | looks like it might be Antiarc |
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| 17:23.25 | Aikar | nice thing about using FlexAuth is you can have key backed up, and if something happened to your phone, you can import it into your PC with an app called WinAuth and then you wont be locked out of your account |
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| 17:24.10 | Pneumatus | yeh, when i bricked my phone last it was all kinds of hassle calling blizz etc to remove my old auth :< |
| 17:24.40 | quiescens | effort |
| 17:27.06 | Aikar | Pneumatus: sorry, hes author of Omen and SexyMap |
| 17:27.20 | Aikar | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/cq0aa/is_flexauth_safe_to_use_to_authenticate_a/ |
| 17:27.40 | Antiarc | Pneumatus: I wrote FlexAuth, yeah |
| 17:28.18 | quiescens | but antiarc is secretly evil anyway |
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| 17:30.37 | Pneumatus | the idea of being able to backup my secret alone is enough to make me switch |
| 17:31.21 | Antiarc | Plus widget and much smaller. :D |
| 17:31.41 | Ackis | the author of that seems kinda fishy |
| 17:31.56 | Pneumatus | if the author was Ackis i'd be concerned it might log my keys |
| 17:31.58 | kagaro | there isnt a working cpu profiler for cata is there? |
| 17:32.13 | Pneumatus | hmm, id need to delete an icon off my home screen to fit in the widget :< |
| 17:32.13 | Kaelten | Ackis: yeah, but that was just last nights salmon that got stuck in his scruff |
| 17:32.18 | quiescens | ackis: definitely |
| 17:33.02 | Repo | 10xperl: 03mysticalos * r377 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: Revert dk stuff back to how it originally was undesturbed |
| 17:33.09 | Ackis | o rly Kaelten |
| 17:33.14 | Ackis | ps did you see my PM on CF? |
| 17:37.17 | ckknight | Aikar: I don't trust that antiarc guy, he seems a bit shady, I mean, who _really_ needs to track their threat badly enough to write an addon for it? |
| 17:39.22 | ckknight | :P |
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| 17:41.37 | Pneumatus | even if Antiarc tried to log my keys he'd have to get through 7 proxies! |
| 17:41.55 | Antiarc | FlexAuth is opensource anyhow :P |
| 17:43.13 | Pneumatus | 7 proxies. |
| 17:44.07 | quiescens | but how many times have you actually read through the source code of something for reasons of "it may be hiding something" |
| 17:44.25 | Niv | I've done it quite a bit |
| 17:44.31 | Niv | but it depends on how large it is |
| 17:44.36 | Pneumatus | probably only half a dozen times |
| 17:44.37 | Niv | and what it's being used for |
| 17:44.53 | quiescens | and then half the time people could just release source code that's different to the compiled stuff and still get 90% of users |
| 17:48.22 | Niv | if you care about what's in source code, I sure hope you build what you cehck |
| 17:48.24 | Niv | check* |
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| 17:54.35 | ckknight | Antiarc would need my username and password as well in order to hack my accoutn |
| 17:54.37 | ckknight | account* |
| 17:55.47 | quiescens | especially in the case of stuff like that when people would need to have a dev chain for a different platform |
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| 18:04.01 | Pneumatus | zomg, HTCs calendar app for 2.2 finally allows you to hook up multiple google accounts' calendars |
| 18:09.44 | koaschten_ | i figured out how to do that with the iPhones iCal app last week and was possitively surprised it could do more than 5 calendars :D |
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| 18:10.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | no fun typing in the feed links |
| 18:11.55 | Pneumatus | koaschten_: i had to previously share my work calendar to my personal gmail account to make it show up, but now it just comes through direct, which is nice |
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| 18:13.04 | koaschten_ | well you can setup goggle calendar either via the exchange account feature or via CalDAV |
| 18:13.13 | Connor_ | Is the title Brewmaster hard to get? |
| 18:13.15 | koaschten_ | if you choose exchange it easily does contacts and mail too |
| 18:13.19 | koaschten_ | Connor_ no |
| 18:13.21 | sbu | <3 exchange :p |
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| 18:14.28 | sylvanaar_atwork | i think i am in bizzaro #wowace |
| 18:14.46 | koaschten_ | hands sylvanaar a cookie and milk. |
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| 18:18.40 | Aikar | Antiarc: i was going to ask you to make a lock screen widget, but i got WidgetLocker which lets you have a custom lock screen to put any standard widget on :o |
| 18:18.50 | Connor_ | koaschten_ how long should it take do you think? |
| 18:18.56 | Aikar | nice being able to simply turn screen on to see code |
| 18:19.48 | Repo | 10pitbull4_threatline: 03CommanderSirow * r6 / (9 files in 2 directories): |
| 18:19.50 | Repo | * All global function GetTankedStatus(), GetTankedColor(), ect. now local (Access via global "ThreatLine_LuaTexts", eg "ThreatLine_LuaTexts.GetTankedStatus()") [By admin request those aren't polluting global namespace anymore :>] |
| 18:19.51 | Repo | * Enabled Localization through wowace website |
| 18:19.52 | Repo | + Added own default text indicator |
| 18:19.53 | Repo | + Added defaults for PitBull4_LuaTexts |
| 18:20.23 | Aikar | Antiarc: thought of adding feature to detect if rooted and import official authenticators token? /data/data/com.blizzard.bma/com.blizzard.bma.AUTH_STORE.xml or so, and i found some topic on XDA with the info to get the serial/key out of it |
| 18:20.45 | Antiarc | Interesting. I might do that. No time right now though. |
| 18:20.56 | Antiarc | Project's on github if you want to fork and add it though :) |
| 18:21.07 | Aikar | i imported official so the Remote AH can still 'auto fill token' |
| 18:21.14 | Aikar | heh i dont know any java |
| 18:21.20 | Connor_ | I use an authenticator emulator. |
| 18:21.22 | Connor_ | :/ |
| 18:21.26 | Aikar | i'm a PHP/JS/C++ dev lol |
| 18:21.27 | Connor_ | I broke my Android authenticator too many times. |
| 18:21.28 | Antiarc | link me to the xda thread? |
| 18:21.37 | Aikar | lemme RDP to home and see if i can find it |
| 18:21.59 | Aikar | first on history search! |
| 18:23.12 | Aikar | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7303107&postcount=94 |
| 18:23.29 | Aikar | wow i remembered the filename correctly lol |
| 18:23.32 | sbu | Connor_: what? :P |
| 18:23.46 | Aikar | oh nvm i missed shared_prefs |
| 18:23.55 | Aikar | almost had it right lol |
| 18:25.15 | Aikar | i downloaded the WinAuth app linked in that thread, imported my AUTH_STORE.xml and it then gave me the unmasked secret key/serial |
| 18:25.25 | Connor_ | sbu how long should it take to get bremaster? I really want it! |
| 18:25.39 | Aikar | so you can look at that app (open source too) for the unmasking bit |
| 18:26.38 | Connor_ | Brewmaster* |
| 18:26.40 | Antiarc | Nice, that's easy enough. |
| 18:27.54 | sbu | Connor_: not this what, auth emulator what :P |
| 18:28.04 | sbu | runnying auth java code locally? |
| 18:28.07 | sbu | -y |
| 18:34.11 | Antiarc | The auth algorithm is pretty simple |
| 18:34.14 | Antiarc | I have ruby and PHP implementations |
| 18:34.23 | Antiarc | But I don't distribute them because people would be dumb and use them wrong |
| 18:34.53 | Aikar | http://aikar.co/homescreen.jpg |
| 18:35.06 | Aikar | i still am deciding what all to put on my homescreen :( |
| 18:35.14 | Aikar | most my stuff is on launcher with apporganizer |
| 18:35.15 | Connor_ | sbu it emulates the authenticator |
| 18:35.16 | Parnic|Work | antiarc: is it possible to share the same auth as a jailbroken iphone or can it only be imported from an android-based phone? |
| 18:35.19 | Pneumatus | Aikar: whats your clock/weather widget? |
| 18:35.25 | Aikar | beautiful widgets |
| 18:35.26 | Pneumatus | mine is 2x4 for the same info :< |
| 18:35.33 | Antiarc | Parnic|Work: If you can get the token secret, it should work |
| 18:35.38 | Antiarc | The algorithm/endpoint is the same |
| 18:35.44 | Antiarc | You just need the 40-byte hex key |
| 18:35.52 | Parnic|Work | yeah i wouldn't know where to look for that. maybe i'll dig around in the filesystem later :) |
| 18:36.21 | Parnic|Work | aikar: holy crap, $30 for giganews?! |
| 18:36.35 | Pneumatus | also, no newsrob :< |
| 18:36.40 | Niv | $11 astraweb win |
| 18:36.54 | Parnic|Work | you know that usenetserver and astranews both have unlimited ssl 20-connection plans for $10-$11 right? :P |
| 18:37.03 | Parnic|Work | 600-700+ day binary retention |
| 18:37.18 | sylvanaar_atwork | giganews is not all that anymore |
| 18:37.19 | Niv | astraweb you mean I assume |
| 18:37.22 | Pneumatus | everyone has monster binary retention now |
| 18:37.28 | Pneumatus | they all just stopped purging |
| 18:37.29 | Parnic|Work | yeah niv, my bad |
| 18:37.32 | Aikar | yeah i really need to switch, but i use to use newsleecher which was free with giga, but i dont anymore, but the VPN service is handy |
| 18:37.47 | Parnic|Work | aikar: http://sabnzbd.org/ :P |
| 18:37.50 | Parnic|Work | screw newsleecher |
| 18:37.50 | Aikar | i used the vpn on public hotspots alot |
| 18:37.54 | Aikar | thats what i use now :p |
| 18:37.54 | Pneumatus | im still running an ancient version of newsleecher |
| 18:37.57 | Aikar | i said 'not anymore' lol |
| 18:37.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | i use thundernews now |
| 18:38.02 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/wn08O.jpg |
| 18:38.07 | Antiarc | That's mine right now. Simple. :) |
| 18:38.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | thundernews + UE |
| 18:38.23 | Pneumatus | well, i say that, i use nzbperl more often than not these days |
| 18:38.52 | Niv | sabnzbd == win |
| 18:39.18 | sylvanaar_atwork | how can anything be better than UE |
| 18:39.19 | Repo | 10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r26 / (5 files in 2 directories): Adding LibAlts support and code cleanup |
| 18:39.43 | Aikar | NZB index sites + SabNZBd with auto download button on the site? |
| 18:39.50 | Aikar | cant get any easier than that |
| 18:39.54 | Aikar | also with categorization* |
| 18:40.08 | sylvanaar_atwork | i used newzbin at one point |
| 18:40.14 | Niv | and then a good tv indexer with RSS feed |
| 18:40.24 | Aikar | get SickBeard for TV, auto dl's the shows for you :) |
| 18:40.24 | Parnic|Work | pfft, i wrote an app that syncs with thetvdb.com and send nzb's of my tv shows to sabnzbd for me every week. that's how it can be easier :P |
| 18:40.25 | Niv | or sickbeard instead |
| 18:40.30 | Niv | yea :) |
| 18:40.31 | Parnic|Work | sickbeard ticked me off |
| 18:40.46 | Aikar | working ok for me |
| 18:40.49 | Parnic|Work | it starts searching at midnight the day the show airs. why?? |
| 18:40.50 | Niv | I tend to use sickbeard as a post-processor more than anything |
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| 18:41.04 | Niv | Parnic|Work: because shit gets released early |
| 18:41.04 | Aikar | i let SAB do the post processing |
| 18:41.09 | Parnic|Work | then it went all cpu-hog on me |
| 18:41.13 | Niv | Aikar: ick |
| 18:41.19 | Groktar | grr |
| 18:41.24 | Aikar | its worked fine for me o.o |
| 18:41.25 | Groktar | i can't remote into my work laptop |
| 18:41.31 | Parnic|Work | niv: 99% of the time, tv shows are released ~15mins after air. very rarely early |
| 18:41.32 | Groktar | slaps it around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:41.32 | Niv | Aikar: SB does so much better :) |
| 18:41.48 | Groktar | blames Niv |
| 18:41.54 | Niv | Parnic|Work: most of my shows end up downloaded 3-4 hours before air time |
| 18:41.55 | Niv | :) |
| 18:41.57 | quiescens | so violent |
| 18:42.02 | Parnic|Work | where do you live |
| 18:42.08 | Niv | west (best) coast |
| 18:42.22 | Niv | :) |
| 18:42.26 | Parnic|Work | heh. i'm in central time and stuff is never posted early :P |
| 18:42.43 | Aikar | k:\tv\Warehouse 13\Season 2\Warehouse 13 - S02E11 - Buried HDTV XviD-FQM.* |
| 18:42.54 | Aikar | only room for imrpovement i see is removing the tags at end |
| 18:42.58 | Aikar | ill live with that lol |
| 18:43.08 | Niv | and building metadata/notifying XBMC |
| 18:43.24 | Aikar | i let xbmc build the data itself |
| 18:43.25 | Repo | 10xperl: 03mysticalos * r378 XPerl_Highlight.lua: |
| 18:43.26 | Repo | Fix for shields not working in highlights. (shields were using two variables, shieldSpells and absorbSpells which was an oversight i'm sure since code wise it was making shieldSpells purple, problem was, there weren't any, they were all defined as absorbSpells heh) |
| 18:43.44 | Niv | but sab won't triger it |
| 18:43.48 | Aikar | but my xbmc is on diff PC which has shows over multiple network drives |
| 18:43.58 | Aikar | so the remote xbmc trigger doesnt work too well i dont think |
| 18:44.10 | Niv | so is mine |
| 18:45.00 | Talryn | WowAce packager failed with a 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR? |
| 18:45.14 | Niv | lunch time |
| 18:45.32 | Groktar | blames Niv for Talryn's packager problem |
| 18:45.44 | Talryn | Ok, so when does it come back from lunch? :-) |
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| 18:49.01 | Talryn | After that is bunch of HTML from curseforge |
| 18:52.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | i never knew those programs even existed - neat |
| 18:53.09 | Aikar | yeah sab+sickbeard is awesome for tv watchers |
| 18:53.43 | Aikar | i love that i can run sab on 1 pc and send nzb's with a click of a button on any pc on network too |
| 18:53.50 | Aikar | no 'save to a special folder' |
| 18:54.18 | Parnic|Work | i'm sad that sab has updated to 0.5.4 but it hasn't made it to apt yet, so my ubuntu box won't ugprade |
| 18:54.21 | sylvanaar_atwork | do you use newzbin? |
| 18:54.33 | sylvanaar_atwork | its hard to believe they are still around |
| 18:54.35 | Aikar | worst part if i switch to astra i gotta go to dads to update his app -.- |
| 18:54.39 | Aikar | no i dont |
| 18:54.41 | Parnic|Work | i use nzbmatrix or binsearch for searching |
| 18:54.42 | Aikar | i use nzbmatrix |
| 18:54.50 | Aikar | and binsearch when nzbm cant find it |
| 18:55.04 | sylvanaar_atwork | ill have to try them out |
| 18:55.30 | Aikar | i let my dad use my usenet acct while im at work lol |
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| 18:59.40 | Aikar | guess ill switch to astra tonight and tell him hes gotta wait till weekend or so to reset him up |
| 19:00.08 | Aikar | cut back on my spending some. |
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| 19:17.57 | quiescens | o.O |
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| 19:30.15 | Talryn | So if the packager fails, is there a way to have it re-run besides updating the code? |
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| 19:35.11 | quiescens | bribe someone |
| 19:37.24 | Ackis | ^ |
| 19:37.27 | Ackis | is someone |
| 19:37.54 | Ackis | Talryn: dailynotes? |
| 19:38.36 | Talryn | My project name? |
| 19:41.30 | evl | I've got an OnUpdate handler and I'm trying to figure out if it's hurting performance at all, is CPU monitoring any point? I'm calling it with the same frequency as TOOLTIP_UPDATE_TIME |
| 19:41.41 | Ackis | yeah Talryn |
| 19:41.48 | Talryn | Character Notes |
| 19:42.20 | Ackis | @ping |
| 19:42.20 | Repo | pong |
| 19:42.21 | Talryn | I can make a tiny update if needed but trying to learn if there's a better way. |
| 19:42.47 | Ackis | I don't even see it in the log, but it looks like the packager is a bit slow so lets just wait and see |
| 19:43.06 | Ackis | something seems fishy w/ it |
| 19:43.08 | Talryn | It looked like the packager died trying to upload it to curseforge |
| 19:43.20 | Ackis | oh your'e on CF |
| 19:43.24 | Talryn | This was an hour ago |
| 19:43.28 | Talryn | Well, I'm not supposed to be |
| 19:43.36 | Talryn | But the HTML looked like curseforge |
| 19:43.47 | Ackis | eh doesn't matter derp, log is the same between the two |
| 19:44.08 | Talryn | Error was 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR |
| 19:44.16 | Talryn | Then the HTML error page |
| 19:44.30 | Ackis | @project characternotes |
| 19:44.31 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'characternotes' |
| 19:44.35 | Ackis | @project character-notes |
| 19:44.36 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/character-notes/. Character Notes. Game: WoW. talryn1 (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 days ago |
| 19:45.54 | Ackis | I can't check out your project, can you paste me your.pkgmeta please? |
| 19:47.50 | Kaelten | Talryn: fixed |
| 19:48.08 | Talryn | Ackis: http://paste.wowace.com/2481/ |
| 19:48.09 | Kaelten | Ackis: ^ |
| 19:48.41 | Ackis | Kaelten: did you rerun it or want me to? |
| 19:48.52 | Kaelten | you can |
| 19:49.26 | Talryn | Is this something I can re-run? I don't want to bug people if not necessary. :-) |
| 19:49.49 | Ackis | only mods/admins can rerun it |
| 19:49.51 | Talryn | Although I think it did re-run and claim no updates and it quit |
| 19:49.53 | Talryn | Ok |
| 19:50.00 | Ackis | if none of us are around you can cheat and do a null commit /shrug |
| 19:50.10 | Ackis | this error had nothing to do with you however |
| 19:50.28 | Talryn | Ok |
| 19:51.20 | Kaelten | ya it's possible that it thinks your commit is fine and won't try to repackage it because of where in the process it blew up |
| 19:51.36 | Talryn | I can just re-commit then |
| 19:51.53 | Ackis | yes please |
| 19:53.47 | Ackis | @project notes-uneed |
| 19:53.48 | Repo | Ackis: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/notes-uneed/. NotesUNeed. Game: WoW. AJH16 (Manager/Author), orgevo (Author), Telic (Former author). Updated: 64 days ago. Tickets: 2/6 |
| 19:54.52 | Ackis | @project lib-st |
| 19:54.53 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lib-st/. lib-ScrollingTable. Game: WoW. ddumont (Manager/Author). Updated: 256 days ago. Tickets: 1/24 |
| 19:55.50 | Repo | 10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r27 CharacterNotes.lua: Forcing rebuild |
| 19:56.30 | Talryn | So @project just shows project details? Anyone can use that? |
| 19:56.50 | Ackis | yeah |
| 19:56.53 | Ackis | it's cuz imma lazy |
| 19:57.27 | quiescens | yay for laziness |
| 19:58.49 | Talryn | I think it's still unhappy |
| 19:59.05 | Talryn | Also some weird stuff about not getting the revision for lib-st |
| 19:59.49 | quiescens | blame ackis |
| 19:59.52 | quiescens | ! |
| 20:00.00 | Ackis | yeah |
| 20:01.31 | Mikk | @describe lib-st |
| 20:01.33 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lib-st/. lib-ScrollingTable. Does stuff for sachmo |
| 20:01.36 | Mikk | oO |
| 20:02.20 | quiescens | O.o |
| 20:03.13 | Kaelten | sorry Talryn, let me try this again... |
| 20:03.24 | Talryn | Ok, no rush, thanks |
| 20:04.51 | Repo | 10test-charlie: 03Kaelten * r19 TestCharlie.lua: bad commit |
| 20:05.24 | Kaelten | ok |
| 20:05.52 | quiescens | gasp |
| 20:06.17 | sylvanaar_atwork | tag that now as 19-alpha |
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| 20:10.41 | Kaelten | ok it's fixed |
| 20:10.47 | Kaelten | or at least it should be |
| 20:11.00 | Ackis | knocks on wood |
| 20:11.07 | Ackis | Talryn: can you please do another commit? |
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| 20:12.31 | quiescens | takes cover |
| 20:12.37 | Repo | 10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r28 CharacterNotes.lua: Forcing rebuild |
| 20:14.09 | Talryn | Looks like it generated the file |
| 20:14.14 | Ackis | Successfully uploaded /repos/packaging/zip/wow/CharacterNotes-r28-nolib.zip, /repos/packaging/zip/wow/CharacterNotes-r28.zip |
| 20:14.20 | Talryn | The revision errors for lib-st is still there. |
| 20:14.25 | Talryn | Not sure if that's an issue or not. |
| 20:14.45 | Ackis | shouldn't be an issue |
| 20:16.07 | Repo | 10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 0e6d599 GatherMate2.toc: [+1 commit] Adjusted loading order of modules |
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| 20:22.05 | Talryn | The file itself looks good. Thanks for the help. |
| 20:22.48 | Ackis | you're welcome |
| 20:23.05 | Ackis | although Kael ten (don't want to ping him :P) did all the work :D |
| 20:23.31 | SunTsu | Ackis: coward ;) |
| 20:24.16 | Ackis | never |
| 20:26.24 | Pneumatus | anyone updated to omnicc3 noticed that grid center icon cooldowns arent showing numbers? |
| 20:26.53 | Pneumatus | ah, it could be the minimum font size slider |
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| 20:27.11 | lipor | hello |
| 20:30.49 | Repo | 10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 015b01b GatherMate2.toc: [+1 commit] Re-Adjusted toc and added in some missing locale entries |
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| 20:41.40 | Repo | 10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r55 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:41.42 | Repo | bunch of small changes, add the buttons in the lower left, move the delete button, comments about scroll frames (but no implementation yet) |
| 20:47.20 | Repo | 10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * c677aad GatherMate2.toc: [+1 commit] Empty commit ot get a rebuild with the localizations all updated |
| 20:47.44 | kagaro | well here is a weird one, when AceLocale goes to tell a warning about a missing locale entry, its causing the debug tool on beta to go nuts |
| 20:48.14 | kagaro | but with bugsack installed, it supresses it to 1 instead of a constant running error |
| 20:53.03 | Zhinjio | ok, thats pretty funny |
| 20:53.04 | Zhinjio | http://bit.ly/aAN8sx |
| 20:53.07 | Zhinjio | sfw |
| 20:53.12 | Zhinjio | I hadn't seen that before |
| 20:54.18 | Repo | 10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r29 CharacterNotes.lua: Converting LibAlt results to title case |
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| 21:16.21 | Talryn | On Wowace if I search for my addon using the search box in the upper right hand corner it doesn't show up. Any idea why? |
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| 21:17.28 | Pneumatus | because its on curseforge? |
| 21:17.29 | Megalon | Fisker: stop restarting teh serverz |
| 21:17.42 | Pneumatus | or you're using the forum search box? |
| 21:19.37 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r621 modules/CopyChat.lua: |
| 21:19.39 | Repo | drycode fix for missing text in the right click copy on beta |
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| 21:23.43 | Talryn | It should be on Wowace. I don't have any better luck with a search on Curseforge. |
| 21:24.04 | Talryn | I'm running the search from the main wowace.com page. I easily find other addons using it. |
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| 21:24.57 | sylvanaar_atwork | @describe character-notes |
| 21:24.57 | Repo | sylvanaar_atwork: http://www.wowace.com/addons/character-notes/. Character Notes. Set and manage character notes that are displayed in unit tooltips and /who results. |
| 21:25.29 | Talryn | I figured maybe I just didn't set something up properly. |
| 21:26.30 | sylvanaar_atwork | i cant search for it either |
| 21:26.35 | Repo | 10liblinq-1-0: 03ckknight 07master * 9309e20 / (8 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 21:26.37 | Repo | 9309e20: Add Queue as a Collection type. It has :Enqueue, :Dequeue, and :Peek. Dequeues are fast and nil-safe, and shrinking only happens when actually necessary, as the internal structure of the table isn't needed to be pristine. |
| 21:26.38 | Repo | b232924: Add Stack as another collection type. Has the standard :Push, :Pop, and :Peek methods we've all come to love |
| 21:27.40 | ckknight | Talryn: what addon? |
| 21:27.53 | sylvanaar_atwork | @describe character-notes |
| 21:27.54 | Repo | sylvanaar_atwork: http://www.wowace.com/addons/character-notes/. Character Notes. Set and manage character notes that are displayed in unit tooltips and /who results. |
| 21:27.55 | Talryn | Any of mine from the looks of it. Character Notes specifically. |
| 21:28.11 | sylvanaar_atwork | that doesnt show up in the search yeah |
| 21:28.14 | Talryn | I can find myself via the author search though and then find them. |
| 21:28.24 | ckknight | what was the search? |
| 21:28.33 | Talryn | The name just as I typed it |
| 21:28.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | "character notes" |
| 21:28.35 | Talryn | above |
| 21:28.42 | ckknight | was it "Character Notes" or "Character" or "Notes" or what? |
| 21:28.49 | Talryn | The former |
| 21:28.55 | Talryn | Character Notes |
| 21:29.28 | Talryn | It's there and marked as Release. |
| 21:29.42 | ckknight | that name is super-general |
| 21:29.50 | Talryn | Yes |
| 21:29.58 | Talryn | I did search the results for it though |
| 21:31.00 | ckknight | strange that it didn't show up |
| 21:31.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | yeah |
| 21:31.05 | evl | Can someone explain how to read the ms output from CPU profiling addons? |
| 21:31.08 | evl | What's a good/bad number? |
| 21:31.54 | sylvanaar_atwork | a bad number is one that you dont fully understand the meaning of |
| 21:32.13 | Ackis | I wouldn't say it's a bad number but 1 |
| 21:32.19 | Ackis | it's more like the loneliest number |
| 21:32.40 | sylvanaar_atwork | 8675309 |
| 21:33.23 | ckknight | I understand that number, sylvanaar_atwork |
| 21:33.26 | evl | sylvanaar_atwork: that's wy I'm asking :P |
| 21:33.40 | evl | I need some reference on how to read the output |
| 21:33.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | in order to properly understand the cpu numbers - you need to understand propagation of measurment error |
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| 21:34.19 | evl | sounds easier than traveling to the highest mountain and picking the smallest flower |
| 21:34.25 | sylvanaar_atwork | which means you need to understand the code you are measuring |
| 21:34.34 | nevcairiel | If its ms and not some weird procentual cpu usage thing like some give you .. well then its just that, the time it needs to run that function, including profiling overhead, of course :p |
| 21:35.30 | evl | the increase is something like 0.1ms/second |
| 21:35.41 | evl | it's an onUpdate function with an interval of 0.5 |
| 21:35.52 | evl | that's running 7-8 easy logic functions on the api |
| 21:35.58 | evl | like ItemCount, UnitAura etc. |
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| 21:38.57 | sylvanaar_atwork | that doesnt sound very significant to me |
| 21:41.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | all you would need to do is see the default UI code's profiling numbers |
| 21:41.15 | evl | can I? |
| 21:41.35 | evl | I thought that was like print("Voldemort") |
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| 21:42.34 | sylvanaar_atwork | the default ui uses so much cpu - no addon can compare |
| 21:42.51 | nevcairiel | I'm sure there are addons that top it |
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| 21:43.08 | sylvanaar_atwork | they would REALLY have to try |
| 21:43.11 | Megalon | lordfarlander-2.0 or what it's called! |
| 21:43.14 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol |
| 21:43.17 | sylvanaar_atwork | farlander |
| 21:43.19 | Connor1 | I want Brewmaster! |
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| 21:43.39 | Copperman | i had tbag conflkicting with something (still dunno what) drop my fps by over 50% and down to 1 in 5/10/25 man combat |
| 21:47.04 | Copperman | crazybenny: any movement on "broker_engineering" ? |
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| 22:21.43 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/blog=168852 |
| 22:51.11 | Repo | 10liblinq-1-0: 03ckknight 07master * 756f69b / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Forgot to add Queue.lua to the lib.xml |
| 22:53.20 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r172 / (20 files in 5 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 22:53.22 | Repo | - Started rewrite of version 2 for WoW client 4.0. Reworked FItemDB code into object oriented code enough to start collecting data. |
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| 23:29.44 | SqueeG | wth... they cut the budget for brewfest or something :p |
| 23:29.54 | SqueeG | Not even a commemorative 2010 mug! |
| 23:30.32 | Niv | you even get the 2009 achievement for the one you get this year |
| 23:30.37 | Niv | pretty weak showing |
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| 23:32.02 | starlon | What's a better way of doing this? This one generates too much memory for some reason. Anyone know why? http://pastebin.com/tsQsJCb5 |
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| 23:34.22 | nebula | you try just using table.concat? |
| 23:34.30 | starlon | nope |
| 23:35.15 | koaschten_ | anyone happen to have the beta server ip |
| 23:35.16 | nebula | depending on the list size there, you're throwing away a lot of strings |
| 23:35.21 | koaschten_ | 's at hand? |
| 23:35.33 | koaschten_ | seems my trans-atlantic routing is dead |
| 23:40.17 | starlon | yeah table.concat got rid of the memory. I have to do buffer[i] nil in places though. I was doing buffer[i] = false |
| 23:40.30 | starlon | buffer[i] = nil rather |
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| 23:55.20 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: :( |
