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| 00:50.35 | Groktar | ordered a bag of random crap from woot |
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| 01:43.13 | Torhal | phyber: The unable-to-download issue is being looked at now |
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| 02:08.55 | Shefki | Torhal: Fix what? |
| 02:09.14 | Torhal | Shefki: FIle downloads from Curse were wonky. |
| 02:09.24 | Shefki | I can't fix that. |
| 02:11.39 | Torhal | Shefki: Oh! |
| 02:11.48 | Torhal | You're referring to what I said last night |
| 02:12.40 | Torhal | Shefki: IsInInstance() returns the wrong values if you use LFD. I joined a group, was still in Orgrimmar, and it said I was in an instance. Immediately afterward, ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA fired. |
| 02:13.05 | Torhal | So I had to write a local version that cached the result upon ZONE_CHANGED* |
| 02:13.34 | Shefki | Umm becuase you were in an instance. |
| 02:13.48 | Shefki | There's just lag in the client loading your new position. |
| 02:13.59 | Torhal | No, I was in Org. IsInInstance() returned '1, "party"' before ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA fired |
| 02:14.07 | Torhal | It was happening consistently. |
| 02:14.18 | Shefki | As soon as you click the button you're teleported. |
| 02:14.31 | Shefki | You're moved before the loading screen shows. |
| 02:14.32 | Torhal | GetRealZoneName() was returning "Orgrimmar" |
| 02:15.10 | Shefki | Client return info fromt he time you press the button until the time the load bar goes away is inconsistent. |
| 02:15.22 | Shefki | That's the way teleportation has always been in the game. |
| 02:15.33 | Torhal | Owell - the caching function fixed the issue. |
| 02:17.00 | Shefki | They could fix it by adding an extra round trip. |
| 02:18.30 | Shefki | Instead of "Hey you moved, client puts up loading screen, ..." |
| 02:18.47 | Shefki | "Hey I'm going to move you, Client acks, Client puts up load screen, game moves you." |
| 02:19.18 | Torhal | *nod* |
| 02:20.03 | pentium166 | but then i wouldn't be able to hearth and swap specs at the same time once in a blue moon |
| 02:22.29 | Axodious | at least it's not like goblins "hey were going to move you, NOT" |
| 02:22.33 | Axodious | see what i did there? |
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| 02:55.07 | Repo | 10wowunit: 03feithar * r13 / (3 files in 1 directory): WoWUnit: |
| 02:55.09 | Repo | - Added ability to create mock objects that can record, then replay a sequence of method calls for testing. |
| 02:55.35 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r181 / (9 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 02:55.37 | Repo | - Rebuild several unit tests to take advantage of the mock object functionality added to WoWUnit. |
| 02:58.15 | Parnic | what the heck? accepted LFD into Core Direbrew and i'm sitting on a loading screen with no progress. i can still hear people around me in dal |
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| 03:06.32 | pompy | @describe wowunit |
| 03:06.34 | Repo | pompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wowunit/. WoWUnit. Unit testing framework for World of Warcraft addon development. |
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| 03:30.41 | orionshock | ... |
| 03:30.51 | orionshock | my gear score is ... OVER NINE THOUSAND! |
| 03:31.09 | orionshock | and the idiot actually sent me an invite for ICC 10man |
| 03:31.14 | Torhal | slaps orionshock around a bit with every Internet meme in existence. |
| 03:31.27 | orionshock | lol |
| 03:57.21 | Zhinjio | Evening folks. I won't spam you with this message but maybe once a week until the rosters lock down... I'm going to be running a for-fun fantasy hockey league again this year. Low pressure, low time commitment, no cash commitment, and grand prize is one year of bragging rights. If that sounds interesting to you, please PM me! |
| 04:08.06 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 04:10.05 | quiescens | moo |
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| 04:36.33 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok 07ace3 * r1326 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed problems reported by MSaint. |
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| 05:13.22 | starlon | WoW frame positioning is confusing |
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| 05:22.37 | Torhal | starlon: ? |
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| 05:38.53 | starlon | Oh I'm back to trying to determine if two frames are intersecting. It seems GetCenter and GetRect don't always use UIParent as a relative point. I'm trying to figure out how that's determined. Parent? Can't you have a parent frame that's not even on the screen? |
| 05:39.59 | starlon | Hmm I didn't even think to look for other addons that determine this. |
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| 05:54.46 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 05:56.49 | nevcairiel | GetCenter, as well as GetLeft and GetRight should always report values relative to the screen |
| 05:57.26 | sbu | morning |
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| 06:56.42 | VonhintenHOME` | goddamn I'm a beast... just had PRK done, can barely see the TV, and still scored first place, with 27 and 10 in MW2... |
| 06:58.01 | sbu | errr - what? :p |
| 06:58.51 | Megalon | he did good in a console shooter yadda yadda |
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| 07:02.01 | VonhintenHOME` | I just had eye surgery, I can't even read what I'm typing right now |
| 07:02.23 | sbu | okay, now i got the "PRK" and "MW2" part |
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| 07:19.53 | starlon | Is GetCenter/GetRect/etc.. effected by some scale value? Cause this just doesn't look right. |
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| 07:21.07 | orionshock | "If it was supposed to make sense, it would. This dosn't" |
| 07:21.15 | orionshock | starlon, it's likely |
| 07:22.25 | orionshock | starlon, I think it's called Flypaper.lua in StatsBlocks. It might help you in figuring out your problem |
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| 07:23.27 | starlon | k thanks |
| 07:23.42 | starlon | these two frames are the same scale, so I guess that's not it |
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| 07:28.08 | phyber | Torhal: cool, thanks. |
| 07:28.44 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok 07ace3 * r1327 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:28.47 | Repo | Handle extra parameter in set functions. Reported by Stanzilla. |
| 07:28.50 | bluspacecow | *bats torhals hair* |
| 07:34.03 | starlon | Turns out the parent frame has a different scale. |
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| 07:40.57 | Torhal | starlon: Yah, scale matters. |
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| 07:41.16 | bluspacecow | *bats torhals hair* |
| 07:41.21 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Gah. I'd just finished fishing the bats -out- of my hair |
| 07:41.33 | bluspacecow | *watchs torhals hair hypnotically* |
| 07:41.40 | bluspacecow | *entranced* |
| 07:43.34 | Repo | 10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r95 GDKPd.lua: prepping for release tag. |
| 07:44.08 | Repo | 10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 041.0.0 * r96 : first release tag. W00t! |
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| 08:07.20 | Torhal | idly wonders if bluspacecow is going to cluck like a chicken. |
| 08:07.38 | bluspacecow | bock ? |
| 08:07.48 | bluspacecow | bock! bock! bock! bocakck! |
| 08:07.55 | quiescens | o.o |
| 08:08.12 | quiescens | a blue space cow making chicken noises |
| 08:08.23 | Torhal | Veeeeery eeeenteresting. |
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| 08:08.52 | bluspacecow | bock bock ? (i'm a confusing cow) |
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| 08:11.37 | bluspacecow | hi ho shadowed away ! |
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| 08:11.52 | bluspacecow | *leaps on shadowed* |
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| 09:04.01 | sbu | Shadowed: will you continue working on sUF for cataclysm? |
| 09:06.50 | nevcairiel | i heard he stopped playing |
| 09:06.55 | sbu | yup |
| 09:07.00 | sbu | thats why i'm asking :p |
| 09:07.50 | nevcairiel | i finally finished my violet proto achievement, yay |
| 09:12.40 | starlon | finally it works for all frames. *celebrates* |
| 09:21.41 | Megalon | shadowed is more into sc2 now |
| 09:28.37 | jnwhiteh | So what unit frames are used these days |
| 09:28.49 | jnwhiteh | a health smattering of oUF, some sUF and Pitbull? |
| 09:28.55 | jnwhiteh | what else is rocking out there |
| 09:28.57 | jnwhiteh | Grid still? |
| 09:29.03 | jnwhiteh | Grid updated for Cataclysm yet? |
| 09:29.32 | jnwhiteh | Blizzard hardcore broke click-casting, so I've gotta get in touch with all the unit frame authors again. |
| 09:31.19 | Stanzilla | Phanx will update grid for cata |
| 09:32.12 | jnwhiteh | alright, I can get in touch with them then |
| 09:32.28 | jnwhiteh | on the plus side, Clique will support arbitrary key bindings for click-casting at the same time |
| 09:32.34 | VonhintenHOME` | decursive |
| 09:32.39 | VonhintenHOME` | healbot |
| 09:32.39 | jnwhiteh | blegh |
| 09:32.41 | jnwhiteh | that's not a unit frame |
| 09:32.44 | jnwhiteh | neither of those is |
| 09:32.49 | jnwhiteh | and they can diaf |
| 09:32.57 | jnwhiteh | blizzard's compact raid frames are > them |
| 09:33.46 | jnwhiteh | jesus |
| 09:33.47 | VonhintenHOME` | I figured they were as much unit frames as grid is... aren't they all just secured frames? |
| 09:33.53 | jnwhiteh | how is healbot 1.8M |
| 09:34.06 | jnwhiteh | VonhintenHOME`: the point is those addons are single-purpose addons, not general unit frames |
| 09:34.58 | jnwhiteh | ah well |
| 09:35.00 | jnwhiteh | I've gotta go shower |
| 09:35.02 | jnwhiteh | bbl |
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| 09:39.35 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: they still support click-casting, but shrug, not a big fan of either of them, let them die =) |
| 09:40.16 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: they don't support the click-casting standard, afaik |
| 09:40.25 | jnwhiteh | Vuhdu at least does |
| 09:40.29 | jnwhiteh | ah well |
| 09:40.39 | jnwhiteh | I'll just plan my world domination |
| 09:40.48 | jnwhiteh | and they'll see its easier just to make unit frames and let me handle the click-casting =) |
| 09:40.53 | jnwhiteh | its a pain in the ass to get it all right now |
| 09:40.53 | nevcairiel | i can fix it in sRaidFrames |
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| 09:40.58 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 09:40.58 | nevcairiel | need to fix it for cata anyway |
| 09:41.00 | jnwhiteh | [it'll be a pain |
| 09:41.03 | jnwhiteh | but i'll give you the infoz |
| 09:41.12 | jnwhiteh | as soon as the next beta push happens and I can solidify the registration |
| 09:41.13 | nevcairiel | i dont see me using new raid frames |
| 09:41.17 | nevcairiel | i'm a creature of habit |
| 09:41.17 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 09:41.29 | nevcairiel | so i'll fix em =) |
| 09:50.31 | Avis | I hate coming up with names for addons |
| 09:50.35 | Avis | the hardest part of making them |
| 09:50.41 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 09:50.48 | Yivry | nah |
| 09:50.54 | Yivry | hardest part of making them |
| 09:51.02 | Yivry | is thinking about what it should do :P |
| 09:51.17 | Avis | heh that too |
| 09:51.28 | nevcairiel | its easy when you name stuff like <prefix>WhatItDoes |
| 09:51.44 | nevcairiel | like, nevUnitFrames! |
| 09:51.56 | doom0r | nah |
| 09:52.07 | doom0r | tekkub's obscure refs are the best |
| 09:52.09 | Yivry | YuryÅRuneDisplay xD |
| 09:52.26 | Yivry | shouldve named it YivryÅ RuneDisplay in hindsight |
| 09:52.42 | Yivry | forgot I already registered at curse some years before :P |
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| 09:56.01 | Yivry | btw, is there an ingame calculator already? toying with the though of making one if not, just so I need not to tab out :P |
| 09:56.14 | doom0r | multiple |
| 09:56.28 | Yivry | meh, there goes another idea |
| 09:56.37 | doom0r | been around since vanilla |
| 09:56.41 | Yivry | see, coming up with functionality is the hardest part :P |
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| 09:57.56 | mitch0 | it's only an issue if you want to do an addon just for the heck of it. otherwise the required functionality emerges while you play :) |
| 09:59.57 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.00 | doom0r | apparently qh's tooltip wants to be seen by someone in china |
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| 10:35.49 | Repo | 10hnp: 03Heda * r2 / (6 files in 2 directories): 1st Commit |
| 10:42.33 | Avis | Yay my cataclysm buff display addon is finished <3 |
| 10:42.51 | jnwhiteh | Avis: using the new buff header? |
| 10:45.46 | Avis | buff header ? |
| 10:45.56 | Yivry | uh oh lol |
| 10:46.12 | Avis | lol |
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| 10:48.10 | jnwhiteh | there's a secure template so that you can create a buff display that is clickable to cancel buffs |
| 10:48.14 | jnwhiteh | if you don't care about that, then you're fine |
| 10:48.19 | jnwhiteh | if you do, you need to use it =) |
| 10:48.53 | Avis | oh yeah that |
| 10:49.41 | Avis | took a whole hour of trolling through framexml and wowwiki to figure out how to use secure templates XD |
| 10:49.46 | jnwhiteh | http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/cat/FrameXML/SecureGroupHeaders.xml#L54 |
| 10:49.54 | jnwhiteh | there's a whole chapter on it in the book =) |
| 10:50.20 | jnwhiteh | and they're well documented |
| 10:50.20 | jnwhiteh | ie.. |
| 10:50.21 | jnwhiteh | http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/cat/FrameXML/SecureGroupHeaders.lua#L612 |
| 10:50.39 | Yivry | ok confusing comment |
| 10:50.42 | Yivry | <!-- A frame used for managing group pets --> |
| 10:50.52 | jnwhiteh | Yivry: why is that confusing? |
| 10:50.54 | Yivry | at the secure aura header template |
| 10:50.56 | Yivry | :P |
| 10:51.06 | Avis | obviously your buffs are pets |
| 10:51.10 | Avis | and you need to remember to feed them |
| 10:51.39 | jnwhiteh | ah, heh =) |
| 10:52.22 | Yivry | so whats the difference btw between a party/raid pet and a group pet? :P |
| 10:53.06 | Yivry | lol look at line 29... copy paste lol |
| 10:53.52 | Yivry | ok back to farming UBRS |
| 10:55.33 | Yivry | did you know you can use mounts now inside BRM? only 4 years late |
| 10:58.02 | Avis | they added a graveyard too where the brd quest started |
| 10:59.27 | Yivry | death by dc >.< |
| 10:59.37 | Yivry | wtb buff to cloth |
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| 11:15.23 | evl | I just got a new monitor, big ass widescreen and now my nameplates are like 200% size, I guess there isn't a simple way to reduce their size? |
| 11:17.04 | Avis | I probably did this wrong lol |
| 11:17.37 | Avis | used SecureActionButtonTemplate, made each aura icon a button, and used cancelaura attribute |
| 11:17.59 | Avis | what does SecureAuraHeaderTemplate do ? |
| 11:21.34 | jnwhiteh | Avis: what you have won't work in combat |
| 11:21.35 | jnwhiteh | mainly |
| 11:21.40 | jnwhiteh | SecureAuraHeaderTemplate will |
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| 12:02.49 | Adirelle|work | anyone knows if the beta keys are tied to the account ? |
| 12:08.51 | sylvanaar_atwork | they arent |
| 12:08.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | until you tie them |
| 12:20.12 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r623 modules/Scrollback.lua: |
| 12:20.14 | Repo | if the history module isnt loaded - dont allow the module extension to load |
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| 13:01.58 | evl | I just got a new monitor, big ass widescreen and now my nameplates are like 200% size, I guess there isn't a simple way to reduce their size? |
| 13:02.20 | Sirow | switch to old monitor? :) |
| 13:03.55 | Sirow | You could use a NamePlate addon to change their size (eg TidyPlates), but might be a bit much only to change their seize |
| 13:05.09 | Torhal | evl: Did you change your resolution from within WoW to match that of the monitor? |
| 13:05.21 | evl | Yeah |
| 13:05.22 | evl | it's 1:1 |
| 13:05.26 | evl | 1440x900 |
| 13:05.36 | evl | nameplates are like heh, 50px high? |
| 13:05.39 | evl | font size 30 ftw? |
| 13:05.46 | Torhal | Hrm. That's fucky. |
| 13:05.53 | evl | Only happens in wide |
| 13:06.05 | evl | If i go 1024 they're "normal" size |
| 13:06.17 | evl | Can I just loop through all the Regions of worldframe and scale? |
| 13:06.41 | Torhal | Dunno, I lack nameplate-fu. |
| 13:07.03 | Parnic | jnwhiteh: my mod IceHUD registers its unit frames as click-cast frames. is that syntax going to change for clique in 4.0? |
| 13:07.06 | evl | Sirow: thought about it but yeah seems a bit overkill :P |
| 13:07.15 | jnwhiteh | Parnic: are the frames created in combat? |
| 13:07.17 | jnwhiteh | if so, no |
| 13:07.21 | Parnic | no, they aren't |
| 13:07.25 | Parnic | they're secure unit frames |
| 13:07.28 | jnwhiteh | anything that doesn't use group headers will continue to function as usual |
| 13:07.31 | kagaro | hrmm wonder if totalpackage is gonna update stuf for cata |
| 13:07.38 | jnwhiteh | with one important caveat |
| 13:07.49 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure how things will work when you log into the game while already in combat |
| 13:08.04 | Parnic | yeah i'm pretty sure my mod already doesn't behave well when that happens |
| 13:08.08 | evl | jnwhiteh: haste told me you get a free "non tainted" run of all your stuff at P_E_W |
| 13:08.15 | Torhal | So...possibly everything will go football-shaped. |
| 13:08.17 | Parnic | if nothing's changing, that's cool |
| 13:08.19 | jnwhiteh | Parnic: can you shoot me an email (@ gmail.com) so I remember to test IceHUD out |
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| 13:08.34 | Parnic | sure. cladhaire@ or jnwhiteh@ ? |
| 13:08.38 | jnwhiteh | evl: it shouldn't be non-tainted, but non-combat-lockdown |
| 13:08.41 | jnwhiteh | Parnic: either, they're the same |
| 13:08.42 | evl | yeah |
| 13:08.45 | Parnic | kk |
| 13:08.54 | jnwhiteh | if that's the case, then I should be okay |
| 13:09.01 | jnwhiteh | as long as InCombatLockdown() returns false at that point |
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| 13:14.39 | jnwhiteh | Parnic: than you sir! |
| 13:14.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | are there rss feeds for curse and wowace? |
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| 13:24.59 | VonhintenHOME` | where the fuck is the flash update for the recent security alert |
| 13:25.13 | VonhintenHOME` | so sick and fucking tired of adobe |
| 13:25.33 | ccKep | sylvanaar_atwork: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons.rss |
| 13:26.21 | ccKep | should be the same as http://www.wowace.com/addons.rss |
| 13:32.34 | steev | VonhintenHOME`: it doesn't exist |
| 13:43.25 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 14:03.03 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r211 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
| 14:03.05 | Repo | -drycode in support for Tricks of the Trade tracking (thanks Dr Doom) |
| 14:03.06 | Repo | -The transfer time is assumed to be 6 seconds (yes I am aware of the 10 xfer glyphed) |
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| 14:25.39 | Ackis | ~seen ckknight |
| 14:25.41 | purl | ckknight <~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 16h 36m 25s ago, saying: 'lol\'. |
| 14:26.43 | quiescens | \ |
| 14:26.59 | haste | / |
| 14:27.05 | Ackis | I have to link him https://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/a25a2634-87e5-42af-aed8-6955611c8acb.jpg for when he has kids |
| 14:27.22 | nevcairiel | hah |
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| 14:37.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol |
| 14:37.40 | sylvanaar_atwork | Ackis: there is another... |
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| 14:39.39 | sylvanaar_atwork | im frustrated with this mobile device - you know when they crash -they just lockup and you cant even get a memory dump |
| 14:41.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | this is exactly why i have been promoting the use of lua on these devices... |
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| 14:43.41 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 14:53.02 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: aren't these "smart" phones slow enough already? :) |
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| 14:53.32 | sylvanaar_atwork | :) you should say that in #lua |
| 14:53.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | i dare you |
| 14:54.16 | mitch0 | well, I dare anyone say lua isn't slower than native code... |
| 14:55.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | it is - but its faster than device lock ups |
| 14:55.34 | sylvanaar_atwork | those happen even if the developer is careful |
| 14:55.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | there can be bugs in the loader for example |
| 14:56.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | *especially* where data alignment is concerned |
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| 14:57.57 | newbie1 | sylvanaar_atwork: wouldn't any phone that had a proper VM work, though? |
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| 14:58.44 | sylvanaar_atwork | yes |
| 14:59.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | but i was saying that native code is faster but you risk more crashes and lockups |
| 14:59.49 | ckknight | what if you use a proper AOT compiler? Then you get very fast speed but still running in a managed VM |
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| 15:00.45 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * v2.7-11-g9e2de25 IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Implement patch posted in ticket 20. |
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| 15:01.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | ckknight: are you excited about windows phone? |
| 15:02.05 | ckknight | oh very much |
| 15:02.07 | ckknight | I want one now |
| 15:02.23 | sylvanaar_atwork | im going to get one just to develop on - i love .NET |
| 15:02.28 | ckknight | okay |
| 15:02.36 | ckknight | yea, we're supposedly going to get some phones for our office |
| 15:02.38 | Ackis | ckknight: don't know if you saw this: https://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/a25a2634-87e5-42af-aed8-6955611c8acb.jpg :P |
| 15:02.45 | ckknight | Ackis: old |
| 15:02.52 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:02.59 | ckknight | also, that kid's a nerd |
| 15:06.03 | Funkeh` | getting a WP7 currently depends on how they will price it :) |
| 15:07.25 | mitch0 | yeah, like are they willing to pay me to use it? :) |
| 15:08.39 | sylvanaar_atwork | you know it will probably be good because noone expects it to be |
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| 15:18.25 | Parnic|Work | i can't wait to slap some XNA onto a windows phone. i hope it's awesome |
| 15:18.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | same |
| 15:18.41 | Parnic|Work | #LateToTheDiscussion |
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| 15:20.39 | sylvanaar_atwork | im devloping on windows mobile 6.5 right now... |
| 15:20.49 | steev | heh |
| 15:20.52 | sylvanaar_atwork | not even .net |
| 15:20.53 | steev | and you admit it |
| 15:21.01 | sylvanaar_atwork | i do enterprise development |
| 15:21.11 | sylvanaar_atwork | they use windows mobile 6.5 |
| 15:21.37 | sylvanaar_atwork | motorola has no plans to move to android |
| 15:21.47 | sylvanaar_atwork | for enterprise |
| 15:22.43 | sbu | dont use motorola then :p |
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| 15:23.23 | sylvanaar_atwork | motorola-symbol is the main player in enterprise mobility |
| 15:23.44 | sylvanaar_atwork | plus i dont get to choose |
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| 15:24.39 | sbu | isnt it mh... thought it was blackberry |
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| 15:29.47 | quiescens | moo |
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| 15:30.52 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar_atwork: i thought i heard mobile 6.5 was designed for enterprise but 7 is purely for consumer, why would you be developing enterprise stuff on 7 then? |
| 15:31.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | i wont be |
| 15:31.26 | sylvanaar_atwork | it will be for personal development |
| 15:31.30 | Arrowmaster | oh ok |
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| 15:38.27 | sylvanaar_atwork | wm 6.5 isnt as bad as people make it out to be, you can do ANYTHING with it |
| 15:39.00 | vhaarr | really |
| 15:39.09 | vhaarr | I would think that a operating system should be restrictive |
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| 15:39.26 | sylvanaar_atwork | really? |
| 15:39.38 | vhaarr | no, that's the point |
| 15:39.44 | vhaarr | your argument makes no sense :P |
| 15:40.20 | vhaarr | "oooh this OS is wonderful, you _actually can do what you want_ with it", that's not an argument, it's a given |
| 15:40.41 | vhaarr | although I guess apple fanboys would disagree |
| 15:40.46 | Mikk | muaha |
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| 15:43.11 | sylvanaar_atwork | sounds like an android fanboi statement |
| 15:44.12 | vhaarr | actually I own a cellphone, you know, the old devices you use to call and text people with |
| 15:44.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | i barely use the phone |
| 15:44.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | its just a portable computing device |
| 15:44.54 | sylvanaar_atwork | noone actually talks to anyone else these days |
| 15:45.19 | vhaarr | maybe in your sphere, but here in mine, we do |
| 15:45.21 | sylvanaar_atwork | except family |
| 15:45.40 | nevcairiel | you talk to your family? what kind of crazy are you? |
| 15:46.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | where do you live vhaarr norway/ |
| 15:46.09 | vhaarr | yes |
| 15:46.24 | vhaarr | note that I didn't say anything about location or whatever, I said "sphere" |
| 15:46.42 | Jedi- | meaning... mars? |
| 15:46.47 | sylvanaar_atwork | his bubble |
| 15:46.49 | nevcairiel | hemisphere? |
| 15:46.57 | vhaarr | bubble indeed, people live in different ones |
| 15:47.06 | vhaarr | I guess sylvanaar is a professional software engineer |
| 15:47.13 | vhaarr | and in those kinds of bubbles, I guess people don't call much |
| 15:47.28 | sylvanaar_atwork | nope we try and stay off the phone |
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| 15:47.49 | sylvanaar_atwork | there be customers there....with problems |
| 15:48.00 | nevcairiel | I try to not call people, but some "old school" people still call me all the time |
| 15:48.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | if they report problems by phone then i have to type out a ticket |
| 15:49.49 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 15:49.49 | sylvanaar_atwork | or make notes about the call... email makes its own notes |
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| 16:36.45 | Parnic|Work | why do we keep letting EthanCentaurai in here? |
| 16:37.05 | Ackis | cuz he's cool |
| 16:37.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | he's named after a star |
| 16:38.01 | Parnic|Work | then why do we keep letting Fisker in here? ;) |
| 16:38.29 | sylvanaar_atwork | someone keeps reprogramming the bot not to kick him..hes got a guy on the inside |
| 16:38.51 | Parnic|Work | that makes sense. |
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| 16:50.55 | koaschten | http://mumble-ios.appspot.com/ |
| 16:51.08 | koaschten | woah Mumble clients for iPhone, Android and Maemo devices? |
| 16:51.14 | koaschten | ilikez? |
| 16:54.50 | ulic | I used mangler for android the other day to get on vent, worked pretty well over wifi. |
| 16:58.46 | Fisker | i see iphone koaschten |
| 16:58.49 | Fisker | i do not want |
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| 17:17.48 | ThiefMaster | hrm.. looks like CancelAura() is protected in 4.0.1. will addons still be able to display player buffs which can be cancelled with a click even if you got them in combat? |
| 17:18.33 | EthanCentaurai | no |
| 17:18.37 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:18.52 | nevcairiel | there is a new secure template thing for auras |
| 17:18.56 | EthanCentaurai | has Blizz fixed it then? |
| 17:19.12 | nevcairiel | wasnt CancelAura protected before? |
| 17:19.23 | EthanCentaurai | no |
| 17:20.10 | nevcairiel | I thought it was to stop people from programmatically canceling shape shifts and stuff |
| 17:20.55 | nevcairiel | anyhow, new secure header you can use |
| 17:21.21 | quiescens | there weren't all that many situations where being able to cancelaura programmatically was much of an advantage |
| 17:21.23 | ThiefMaster | so basic functionality (e.g. like with the buff display from DoTimer) will still be possible? |
| 17:21.47 | ThiefMaster | and why couldn't blizz just require the function to be called from a mouse/keyboard event instead of making it protected? |
| 17:21.58 | quiescens | its not like there are very many "buff" type auras (ie. things you can actually choose to cancel) that have much of a negative effect |
| 17:22.02 | nevcairiel | They probably have their reasons |
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| 17:22.31 | nevcairiel | Filtering which buffs to show will be a bit more complex, and might be limited |
| 17:23.30 | Niv | hrmm, I wonder if satrina will update SBF |
| 17:23.51 | ThiefMaster | well not being able to cancel buffs in combat would be annoying anyway; even if it's not really needed |
| 17:24.06 | Parnic|Work | as will changing the size of a protected buff frame for e.g. displaying player-instigated buffs as larger |
| 17:24.12 | nevcairiel | You can, just needs some magic in custom addons |
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| 17:30.01 | quiescens | the only things i can think of offhand are |
| 17:30.23 | quiescens | cancelling shapeshifts to avoid hibernate or banish |
| 17:30.43 | nevcairiel | thats why i thought they blocked canceling shapeshifts through addons |
| 17:30.54 | nevcairiel | maybe they did some magic custom thing to only block it on shapeshifts |
| 17:31.25 | quiescens | and cancelling power word fort to stay above "20%" or whatever for a moment longer |
| 17:40.10 | p3lim | getting this error when I try to add a new phrase to the localization feature on curseforge/wowace: Key must be unique within a project. |
| 17:40.28 | haste | then make it unique~ |
| 17:40.38 | p3lim | Its not the same string |
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| 17:41.21 | p3lim | Just don't see why this string is not unique |
| 17:41.37 | p3lim | I don't have any others like it |
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| 17:43.27 | Juli4n | Hi guys, does anyone here have experience with calling BeanCounter functions in other addons? |
| 17:44.39 | Zhinjio | Juli4n: you might want to check in #norganna-dev |
| 17:44.46 | Zhinjio | where they support those functions |
| 17:44.50 | Zhinjio | (presumably) |
| 17:44.53 | Juli4n | on this irc server? |
| 17:45.04 | Nechckn | shh! no telling, Zhinjio! |
| 17:45.19 | Juli4n | well thanks Zhinjio! |
| 17:45.31 | Zhinjio | I mean... #n0rg@nn@-id10t channel, uh huh. |
| 17:45.33 | Zhinjio | grins |
| 17:45.54 | Zhinjio | sure |
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| 17:52.31 | Repo | 10broker_professions: 03durcyn 07master * 3.3.5.1-2-g46765e6 Broker_Professions.lua: [+1 commit] fix event handler, woops |
| 17:52.37 | Repo | 10broker_professions: 03durcyn 043.3.5.2 * e22c4c1 /: [new tag] 3.3.5.2 |
| 18:04.38 | Parnic|Work | @describe broker_professions |
| 18:04.39 | Repo | Parnic|Work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_professions/. Broker_Professions. Profession launcher objects for any Broker display |
| 18:14.10 | HPT | is your wowace svn login/pw different from your website login/pw? |
| 18:14.43 | quiescens | probably |
| 18:14.59 | HPT | trying to upload for my first time. used same credentials and it wont let me =( |
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| 18:49.48 | Repo | 10experience-monitor (experimental): 03Handpartytowel * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): initial upload to wowace repository. |
| 18:50.12 | HPT | hooray |
| 18:51.09 | steev | grats! |
| 18:51.45 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 19:21.28 | quiescens | yawns |
| 19:21.56 | EthanCentaurai | duct tapes quiescens to the ceiling. |
| 19:22.17 | quiescens | dies. |
| 19:23.09 | Megalon | at least he already is inside a duct tape coffin |
| 19:24.14 | Parnic|Work | who's the ceiling centaurai now? |
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| 19:43.57 | Repo | 10libalts-1-0: 03talryn1 06talryn * r42 LibAlts-1.0.lua: |
| 19:43.59 | Repo | LuaDoc updates and switching back to RemoveAlt for callback event name |
| 19:47.35 | Talryn | Is there a reason not to use the revision number as the minor of a library? |
| 19:51.03 | HPT | ok so i have setup my repository and committed files, but my project is still in the planning stage and there are no files available to DL. is this because the project is 'experimental', or do i need to do something more |
| 19:51.38 | sylvanaar_atwork | it should say real big on the project page |
| 19:51.49 | Talryn | Go to Repository and check that is packages on Alphas? |
| 19:52.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | but you basically need your project to be approved |
| 19:55.18 | Starinnia | HPT: I think your repo is set to only package on beta and release |
| 19:55.43 | HPT | how do i tell it that i want something to be beta |
| 19:55.45 | Talryn | I know I made that mistake when I setup my first repository. |
| 19:55.51 | HPT | i remember clicking something like that |
| 19:56.35 | Starinnia | you need to tag the repo |
| 19:56.47 | Talryn | http://kb.wowace.com/projects/packaging-an-addon/ |
| 19:56.48 | Starinnia | if you want it to be beta include beta in the tag name |
| 19:56.51 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r624 modules/Scrollback.lua: fix error message when timestamps module not loaded |
| 19:56.55 | Talryn | But it's based on the tag name |
| 19:57.37 | Talryn | Beta has beta in it, IIRC. Releases have v something or release in them. |
| 19:58.20 | Starinnia | nope, if its not recognized as a beta tag it is a release tag |
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| 19:59.28 | HPT | oh, so it lends itself to you having your dev revisions that dont get published in trunk, and then you make a new branch for each revision you want released? |
| 19:59.55 | Talryn | Looking at LibStub code, it looks like the highest minor version is just kept track of but not really used. |
| 20:00.39 | Talryn | HPT: I just commit code to trunk and then tag releases. Tag it as v0.1, v0.2, etc. If that's what you're thinking, then yes. :-) |
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| 20:00.58 | HPT | ok so individual commits get tags |
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| 20:01.02 | HPT | not branches |
| 20:01.08 | Starinnia | HPT: any commit to trunk would be an alpha build |
| 20:01.19 | Starinnia | and then if you want beta you make a tag of the current trunk |
| 20:01.26 | Starinnia | kind of like a snapshot of the trunk |
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| 20:01.32 | Talryn | Well, it's an svn copy to make a tag. |
| 20:01.56 | HPT | so you will tag say, revision 3 |
| 20:02.01 | HPT | as a beta or release |
| 20:02.19 | HPT | but you dont have to worry about making different svn branches |
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| 20:02.32 | Talryn | Yes |
| 20:02.35 | HPT | ok |
| 20:02.38 | HPT | thanks guys |
| 20:02.40 | Talryn | Changes are going into trunk |
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| 20:07.53 | Talryn | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14907 |
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| 20:08.16 | Talryn | Xinhuan's post there might help. A little more detailed. |
| 20:08.19 | sbu | hm |
| 20:08.24 | sbu | is it possible to get to the goblin isle? |
| 20:08.28 | sbu | as non-goblin |
| 20:09.58 | Talryn | I tried out faction change from goblin to gnome and then back to goblin but when I logged back in after that I fell through the world and died in Hillsbrad. |
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| 20:11.35 | steev | serves you right |
| 20:11.41 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 20:11.52 | Xinhuan | for teh same reasons, you can't go to DK starting zone as a non-dk |
| 20:12.01 | Talryn | It was fun running as a level 4 to Tauren Mill. |
| 20:12.26 | Talryn | I was just checking how the faction changes worked. Apparently there is a bug. |
| 20:12.38 | Megalon | you can't goblin on beta |
| 20:12.46 | Megalon | they are bugged |
| 20:12.48 | Talryn | Is it broken again? |
| 20:12.51 | Megalon | can't go to kalimdor |
| 20:12.53 | Megalon | etc |
| 20:13.01 | steev | can you do race changes without faction transfer? |
| 20:13.05 | Megalon | yes |
| 20:13.08 | Talryn | You can |
| 20:13.09 | Megalon | if you relog often enough |
| 20:13.23 | Megalon | it changes from time to time, but know clue what the pattern is |
| 20:13.35 | Talryn | But I was just messing around, although I did want to check a race change and was doing the faction change twice to test it. |
| 20:13.44 | Talryn | I think they said every 15 minutes or so it changes. |
| 20:13.55 | Talryn | So relog and watch for it. |
| 20:14.12 | Talryn | I don't believe it changes if you just sit on the char. selection screen |
| 20:14.36 | Repo | 10libalts-1-0: 03talryn1 * r30 LibAlts-1.0.lua: |
| 20:14.38 | Repo | Added the option to have separate data sources for different types of data |
| 20:15.24 | p3lim | lol, is facebook down? |
| 20:15.37 | Megalon | nope, you just don't have any friends |
| 20:15.41 | Megalon | neither online nor offline |
| 20:15.46 | sbu | Megalon: it changes every hour |
| 20:15.50 | p3lim | getting DNS failure |
| 20:16.01 | Megalon | stuxnet is overtaking fb |
| 20:16.06 | sbu | yea facebook down |
| 20:17.05 | p3lim | just noticed it has been covered by every major newspaper :p |
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| 20:55.42 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 20:58.22 | koaschten | is it bad i havent heard about facebook having issues? ^^ |
| 21:01.02 | Fisker | i don't see why anyone would care |
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