| 00:01.52 | Humbedooh | oh hmm, maybe I can haxxor it |
| 00:08.15 | Bibi | [01:45:33] <Yssaril> Bibi: you have Pyrium-Laced Crystalline Vial listed twice in the reagent list for Vial of the Sands |
| 00:08.19 | Bibi | it must be very important then |
| 00:10.22 | Bluspacecow | same item ids ? |
| 00:10.53 | Axodious | he speaks ;o ;p |
| 00:11.55 | Bluspacecow | or unique item ids |
| 00:21.15 | sylvanaar | kagaro, whats the advantage to libbackdrop |
| 00:21.49 | kagaro | you can use gradients on borders, and if you relly wanted to you got absolute control over the the 8 border textures |
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| 00:22.33 | kagaro | its more for when blizz removes the SetBackdrop function |
| 00:23.27 | kagaro | sylvanaar: i got a screenshot up of some of the coloring stuff you can do |
| 00:24.04 | sylvanaar | can you add a clean way to test if its already been embedded in a frame |
| 00:24.09 | kagaro | it also supports the new bordering methods they are starting to use i.e. 1 texture for corners and 4 discinct textures for top.lef,right,bottom |
| 00:24.18 | sylvanaar | or is there one |
| 00:24.27 | sylvanaar | other than checking for the functions |
| 00:24.34 | kagaro | if frame._backdrop then embedded end |
| 00:24.50 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 00:25.14 | Axodious | http://goo.gl |
| 00:25.16 | Axodious | ^- win |
| 00:25.17 | kagaro | using frame._backdrop you can reference each section of the border as well |
| 00:26.05 | kagaro | i can add function if you wish to get a particalu section ref |
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| 00:31.34 | Yssaril | kagaro: blizz is trying to depreciate setbackdrop? |
| 00:31.40 | kagaro | yes |
| 00:31.46 | Yssaril | why? |
| 00:31.55 | kagaro | dunno |
| 00:32.00 | kagaro | its in the 4.0 changes thread |
| 00:32.35 | kagaro | sylvanaar: im adding a function you can do lib:IsEmbedded(frame) which returns true or false |
| 00:32.44 | sylvanaar | cool |
| 00:33.03 | sylvanaar | is it 4.0 only |
| 00:33.38 | kagaro | i could make it so it isnt |
| 00:33.50 | sylvanaar | how |
| 00:34.27 | kagaro | ahh crud you know what i dont think i can im using teh vert/horiz tiliing option |
| 00:35.44 | sylvanaar | by the way the casing of the packaged folder is all lowercase |
| 00:36.01 | kagaro | yeah packager isnt working properly for the repo |
| 00:36.02 | Yssaril | kagaro: did they replace the backdrop functionality with something or do we now have to manage our own boarder code? |
| 00:36.18 | kagaro | Yssaril: its still in there but now marked as deprecated |
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| 00:44.26 | sylvanaar | kagaro: it works on 30300 so far |
| 00:44.37 | sylvanaar | well |
| 00:44.40 | sylvanaar | it doesnt error |
| 00:46.03 | kagaro | do you see a bordered frame? |
| 00:46.34 | kagaro | i honestly didnt try it on live, i was using it on beta client |
| 00:47.27 | kagaro | i wonder if SetTexure is just ignoring teh extra params |
| 00:47.27 | sylvanaar | i think so |
| 00:47.32 | Humbedooh | http://www.wowace.com/addons/rendergnome/ if anyone wants the joy of uhm...rendering svg in-game :p |
| 00:47.35 | Humbedooh | and move stuff about |
| 00:47.50 | kagaro | sylvanaar: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10956/LibBackDrop-Example.png |
| 00:48.20 | kagaro | ive got the layout code for that on the project page if you wana see example usage |
| 00:49.14 | sylvanaar | as soon as beta comes up, ill have a working addon using your lib |
| 00:49.47 | kagaro | k |
| 00:49.59 | kagaro | im gonna be switching pkPanels over to it as well |
| 00:50.04 | kagaro | err kgPanels |
| 00:50.16 | Zhinjio | hey kagaro |
| 00:50.23 | kagaro | makes the layout code a little easier |
| 00:50.26 | kagaro | Zhinjio: sup |
| 00:50.33 | Zhinjio | not a whole lot |
| 00:51.00 | kagaro | hehe the packager just started kicking in |
| 00:51.18 | Humbedooh | ye but Repo is still in a coma :( |
| 00:51.50 | kagaro | well that says to me Kaelten got the repo hooks working again |
| 00:52.43 | kagaro | sylvanaar I updated the project description for the api |
| 00:52.56 | Humbedooh | aaw, packager died again ;( |
| 00:53.06 | sylvanaar | kagaro: thanks |
| 00:55.41 | Ali1331 | anyone have any ideas as to why I can't login into my guilds SMF forum, it's not firefox as chrome+IE have the same issue, I get sent to an empty index.php page and when I refresh it asks to resend data and the forum says the password is incorrect |
| 00:56.38 | Humbedooh | sounds like a 501 |
| 00:56.45 | kagaro | i think tommarrow ill finish out the convertor for gathermate2, then i can go back to raidwatch2 and work ont he raid tracker |
| 00:56.50 | Humbedooh | err a 500 |
| 00:57.13 | Ali1331 | the site is fine |
| 00:57.28 | Ali1331 | it works for everyone else, and it only stopped working when I moved from vista to W7 |
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| 01:06.50 | doom0r | ff xiv have to be so blinding white? =\ |
| 01:08.39 | Torhal | starlon | Does the packager not package svn externals? <-- No. use .pkgmeta, do not hard-embed. |
| 01:10.00 | doom0r | http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ |
| 01:12.15 | Torhal | Yssaril: We're supposed to manage our own border code now, hence the drop-in library. However, they just deprecated backdrops like they did the global args and "this" in WoTLK. |
| 01:13.09 | Shefki | Torhal: Backdrops aren't really deprecated. |
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| 01:14.54 | Shefki | Torhal: "I'm not sure, as has been noted - backdrops might not be as deprecated yet as they were claimed to be. The easiest solution is probably going to be to see what blizzard does and then steal that." -Iriel |
| 01:15.42 | Shefki | Blizzard is still using them. Until you start seeing them rip them out, I wouldn't be concerned. |
| 01:17.08 | Torhal | Hrm. |
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| 01:30.01 | doom0r | anyone know if they've ever fixed the independant desktops issues in kde4 and gnome 2.2+ |
| 01:32.15 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: did you work on mapster for cata yet (specifically the taint problems)? |
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| 01:33.49 | Axodious | oh man, emergency weather system on tv >_> |
| 01:34.09 | quiescens | hide! |
| 01:34.13 | Galvin | curious how you would do a border without a backdrop isn't all that code in C? |
| 01:35.50 | kagaro | Shefki: a few of the frames they have ripped them out |
| 01:37.17 | kagaro | Galvin: what are using 8 textures to cover the corners and 3 sides |
| 01:39.20 | kagaro | err 4 sides |
| 01:39.58 | Torhal | doom0r: What independant desktop issues? |
| 01:40.18 | doom0r | 2 cards, 2 monitors, 2 desktops with mouse across |
| 01:40.30 | doom0r | broke in early kde4 and around 2.22 or 2.24 gnome |
| 01:40.33 | Torhal | Ah. Unknown. |
| 01:40.53 | Torhal | Though I did have two monitors hooked to a single card in December and had no problems under KDE4 |
| 01:40.54 | doom0r | kde was working on it, gnome, no idea |
| 01:41.13 | doom0r | i was using independant desktops, in other words, linked x sessions |
| 01:41.26 | Torhal | Ah, I wasn't. |
| 01:41.37 | doom0r | they both supported it prior to the big upgrades, just didn't work it out yet last i checked |
| 01:42.07 | doom0r | it's great for full speed 3d rendering on separate displays |
| 01:42.14 | doom0r | the cards only do their respective work |
| 01:42.33 | Axodious | so |
| 01:42.55 | Torhal | I'll have to wait for my next machine. All I cared about this one was getting rid of a five-year-old machine. I didn't bother to check for PCIe slots |
| 01:43.06 | Axodious | comparison, CC vs mmominion |
| 01:43.13 | Axodious | there any pros/cons between them? |
| 01:43.23 | Axodious | other than where the addons are hosted between each |
| 01:43.24 | doom0r | ya, this box is old, i just went from a 680i to a 790i for ddr3 and a better fsb |
| 01:43.26 | Torhal | Axodious: There's shit on WoWI that isn't on Curse, and vice-versa |
| 01:43.34 | Torhal | So... |
| 01:43.38 | Axodious | Torhal see above :D |
| 01:43.44 | Torhal | Though I've never been able to get Minion working properly at all. |
| 01:43.54 | Axodious | i couldn't either the first couple times i used it |
| 01:44.03 | Yssaril | CC seams a bit more polished than minion imo but i use both |
| 01:44.15 | Torhal | I tried three different times and each time its detection just didn't work |
| 01:44.53 | Bruners | use neither and update your mods manually and only when they brake or you want new functionality |
| 01:46.33 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.36 | Torhal | 10. Zhinjio â20:33:38 kagaro | i could make it so it isnt â@vhaarr |
| 01:46.38 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.40 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.42 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.43 | tem | THE FUCK |
| 01:46.44 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.46 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.48 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:47.04 | Zhinjio | wtf |
| 01:47.26 | Humbedooh | derp derp? |
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| 01:49.39 | Torhal | Fucking shit. |
| 01:49.49 | Torhal | I need to stop using text-based IRC clients apparently |
| 01:49.55 | Torhal | I seem to do that like every two months |
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| 01:51.42 | Axodious | you just need to stop using the ones that automatically copy on highlight |
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| 01:52.04 | Adys | pokes Thrae |
| 01:52.50 | Humbedooh | cata servers back up yet? |
| 01:52.55 | Torhal | Axodious: I'm running Linux. That's kinda impossible. |
| 01:53.03 | Yssaril | Humbedooh: patch hasnt even gone out yet |
| 01:53.10 | Humbedooh | bleh |
| 01:53.16 | Humbedooh | and I still blame Bibi! |
| 01:55.47 | Axodious | you can probably disable it in xchat |
| 01:56.04 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: are you using irssi? |
| 01:56.15 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: weechat |
| 01:56.25 | Torhal | The problem, it seems, lies in the fact that I'm using Konsole |
| 01:56.31 | Arrowmaster | oh, does it have a paste detection? because irssi does |
| 01:56.34 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 01:56.34 | Torhal | It's somehow bypassing weechat's paste-flood protection |
| 01:56.52 | Zhinjio | I loved irssi when I was still using that |
| 01:56.55 | Torhal | I'll try another terminal |
| 01:56.59 | doom0r | i hate konsole |
| 01:57.43 | doom0r | layout always had issues for me |
| 01:57.56 | doom0r | change 1 thing affect 17 |
| 01:57.59 | Torhal | doom0r: I'm up for suggestions. I hate fucking with xterm's config to get it looking the way I want |
| 01:58.10 | doom0r | usually just used eterm |
| 02:01.11 | Axodious | i use to use eterm (when i ran linux) |
| 02:05.20 | Bruners | urxvt? |
| 02:13.03 | Connor1 | I press my screenshot button but screenshots don't save |
| 02:13.05 | Connor1 | whatthehell.jpg |
| 02:13.42 | Connor1 | I don't even have a cache folder... |
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| 02:25.25 | Mikk | Connor1: check to see if it hasn't ended up somewhere under your %userprofile% |
| 02:25.32 | Connor1 | Okay |
| 02:25.51 | Mikk | iirc modern installers like to put it there |
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| 02:32.59 | Axodious | zzz |
| 02:33.17 | Axodious | roommate flashing bios with something from some 3rd party website |
| 02:33.18 | Axodious | >_< |
| 02:33.26 | Axodious | cause there's no ssd support on his mobo |
| 02:43.39 | Axodious | http://ca.wowstead.com , not gonna lie i'm pretty imressed that i have ca.wowstead |
| 02:47.55 | Humbedooh | meh, I hate sloppy SVG images |
| 02:48.22 | Humbedooh | "c-4.255-4.406-7.806-9.519-13.396-12.615" isn't a very nice way to enter coordinates |
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| 02:54.04 | Axodious | oh man, there's that cobalt icon on the CP |
| 03:27.01 | Galvin | is there a way to make a texture greyscale in wow? |
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| 03:28.06 | Galvin | also how complicated is it going to be to do our own code for backdrop, and why would blizzard take that out anyway? |
| 03:29.11 | Humbedooh | 1) yes |
| 03:29.16 | Humbedooh | 2) use libbackdrop or something |
| 03:29.41 | Galvin | so isn't it slower to use lua code to do backdrop, isn't backdrop written in C? |
| 03:29.48 | Humbedooh | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetDesaturated |
| 03:30.07 | Humbedooh | it might be slower, but nothing we'll notice |
| 03:30.21 | Humbedooh | unless you use a thousand backdrops |
| 03:30.57 | Galvin | just makes coding more of a pain. I just dont know why they would want to removbe it when it works fine. |
| 03:31.44 | Galvin | that desaturated only works if the video card supports it though. |
| 03:32.21 | Adys | Galvin: not necessarily |
| 03:32.44 | Adys | Galvin: wowprogramming is wrong; desaturated still has an effect if the video card doesn't support it, it's just not the same |
| 03:32.48 | Adys | http://bugs2.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=21490 |
| 03:32.55 | Adys | shades the image |
| 03:33.08 | Galvin | I was trying vertexcolor but it doesn't quiet work the way I want. |
| 03:33.13 | Galvin | *quite |
| 03:33.14 | pompy | http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/30/nvidia-reaches-settlement-in-class-action-suit-affecting-apple/ |
| 03:33.34 | Galvin | they take on intel later this year I think |
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| 03:42.28 | Galvin | desarutate turns yellow into white is that what its normally suppose to be? |
| 03:44.07 | Humbedooh | uhm ye? :p |
| 03:44.22 | Humbedooh | it depends on how you desaturate though |
| 03:44.38 | Humbedooh | you can desaturate based on highest r/g/b value, or on an average |
| 03:44.51 | Galvin | I did desaturate then vertexcolor after and got a nice greyscale |
| 03:45.12 | Humbedooh | the simplest and most widely used one just takes the highest r, g or b value and sets r, g and b to that |
| 03:46.10 | Galvin | Well I dont know what the rgb values of a texture are. since its not one solid color. |
| 03:46.33 | Galvin | but if desarutate isn't supported it wont look grey. |
| 03:46.46 | Humbedooh | it just does it pixel-by-pixel I s'pose |
| 03:46.56 | Galvin | ahh ok |
| 03:47.21 | Galvin | so using desaturate to go greyscale then vertexcolor to darken it. |
| 03:47.57 | Humbedooh | or you could just add an overlay texture with a blend mode set ;p |
| 03:48.23 | Galvin | I dontk now how to do my own textures and I rather stick with blizzard for these its easier. actually a lot easier doing it this way. |
| 03:49.32 | Galvin | ahh this is looking really good now. thanks |
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| 04:43.38 | Torhal | Galvin: Even if a Lua solution for SetBackdrop() is slower than a C one, how many times are you going to set the backdrop? |
| 04:57.30 | Kemayo | pokes Repo |
| 04:59.38 | Shefki | @ping |
| 04:59.38 | Repo | pong |
| 05:03.13 | Xinhuan | appears both wowhead and wowhead are predicting 12/7 cata release date (which is a tuesday) |
| 05:03.32 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: wowhead and wowhead ?? |
| 05:03.35 | pompy | wowhead and wowhead? |
| 05:03.37 | pompy | :P |
| 05:03.39 | Xinhuan | wowhead and mmo-champ, oops |
| 05:03.40 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 05:03.47 | Xinhuan | via different reasonings though |
| 05:03.48 | Kemayo | So Repo is alive, but not actually announcing commits. |
| 05:04.18 | Yssaril | Kemayo: repo has been silenced while they finish up the server switch |
| 05:04.36 | Xinhuan | mmo-champ's reasoning is based on a date in the lua files in the beta, and based on a blue post about arena seasons/cata launch |
| 05:04.47 | Xinhuan | while... wowhead's reasoning is based on an NPC in game giving a hint |
| 05:05.01 | Kemayo | Yssaril: Ah, I thought that was done. Fair enough. |
| 05:05.10 | Xinhuan | although initially i thought the date reference was due to pearl harbour bombing (the same quotation was used) |
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| 05:06.29 | Torhal | Kemayo: Repo is running on the old server. |
| 05:06.32 | Yssaril | Kemayo: it should be done probably just waiting to see if any problems crop up (also Kaelten is catching up on some zzz) |
| 05:06.40 | Humbedooh | yay |
| 05:06.53 | Humbedooh | LibSVG passed all compliance tests on matrix transformations |
| 05:07.03 | Humbedooh | dances with purl |
| 05:07.12 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Noice |
| 05:07.23 | Humbedooh | now only 80 tests to go ;< |
| 05:07.35 | Yssaril | 80 out of how many? |
| 05:07.45 | Humbedooh | out of about 100 |
| 05:07.56 | Torhal | When you pass all of those, then you need to start working on the client's animation subsystem. |
| 05:07.58 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:07.59 | Humbedooh | but some of them I'll just ignore flat out |
| 05:08.08 | Yssaril | @project libsvg |
| 05:08.10 | Repo | Yssaril: No project found that matches 'libsvg' |
| 05:08.17 | Humbedooh | radial gradients and such just ain't possible with WoW's current API |
| 05:08.32 | Humbedooh | @project libsvg-1-0 |
| 05:08.40 | Repo | Humbedooh: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsvg-1-0/. LibSVG-1.0. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. Humbedooh (Manager/Author). Updated: 31 hours ago |
| 05:09.10 | Torhal | Repo: Move on, already. All the new shit's on the new server! |
| 05:09.23 | Torhal | Ok, now I'm really going to bed. |
| 05:09.42 | Shefki | Yay: HEAD is now at aa8c442 Eclipse Module: Initial checkin, still needs some work but it's useable. |
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| 05:16.21 | Shefki | And nobody cares. |
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| 07:44.53 | starlon | for some reason an svn update hangs for this addon. it works fine for others |
| 07:45.24 | starlon | Torhal renamed the slug tonight. I'm not sure if it's related or not. |
| 07:46.36 | starlon | (It's on curseforge, but thought maybe someone here would know.) |
| 07:47.36 | starlon | it'll update a file, but won't finish the operation. It locks the local copy but never releases it |
| 07:53.19 | Xinhuan | wowace is moving servers |
| 07:53.25 | Xinhuan | so, half the stuff is not working |
| 07:53.34 | Xinhuan | wait a day or two |
| 07:53.43 | starlon | k |
| 07:56.34 | Humbedooh | hmmm, just me or did EasyMenu get even weirder in cata... |
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| 08:32.16 | sylvanaar | anyone patched yet? |
| 08:33.57 | Humbedooh | yup yup |
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| 09:19.13 | vhaarr | wtf ground mounts seem a lot faster now |
| 09:27.34 | Megalon | guild perk? :o |
| 09:27.58 | vhaarr | ah yeah must be |
| 09:30.02 | sbu | does guild perk 10% stack with pally/dk 10%? |
| 09:30.20 | sbu | or did they remove the +mountspeed talents? |
| 09:32.12 | vhaarr | my hunter still has the mount speed talent at least |
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| 09:33.06 | vhaarr | they fixed pet health, yay! |
| 09:33.19 | harl | hi |
| 09:47.25 | mitch0 | any hg power user can comment on this: "Unfortunately, Mercurial gets one of the most important features of a DVCS horribly wrong. Not having cheap, fast, in-place branching is a deal breaker, and a mishmash of bookmarks, mq and other extensions isn't going to fix it." ? |
| 09:54.06 | sbu | vhaarr: could you test if it stacks with the guildish 10% speed? |
| 09:57.58 | vhaarr | sbu: talent specifically states it does not stack with anything else |
| 09:58.39 | sbu | mh okay, so the talent is useless after the first cataclysm weeks |
| 09:58.54 | sbu | guild stuff is cataclysm, right? (achievements etc.) - or are they bound to 4.0.1? |
| 10:07.25 | arkanes | mitch0: I'd say that hg *does* have cheap, cast, in-place branching. The person making the claim just doesn't like the workflow. |
| 10:07.41 | arkanes | mitch0: thats that "git is the only dvcs worth using" rant, right? |
| 10:07.57 | mitch0 | it's a random reply in a /. thread |
| 10:08.13 | arkanes | there's a blog post with very similar wording somewhere |
| 10:08.23 | mitch0 | was just curious what it meant. but now I found some article comparing the two approaches (git vs hg branching), just reading that |
| 10:08.27 | mitch0 | http://stevelosh.com/blog/2009/08/a-guide-to-branching-in-mercurial// |
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| 11:18.57 | sylvanaar | hg rocks |
| 11:19.18 | sylvanaar | thats my technical summary |
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| 11:44.09 | mitch0 | ok ;) |
| 11:44.15 | mitch0 | believes |
| 11:44.29 | mitch0 | (but I'm reading a more detailed intro to hg just in case ;) |
| 11:45.46 | quiesense | o.o |
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| 12:12.36 | mitch0 | hehe, from that page: |
| 12:12.39 | mitch0 | "Hereâs the part where youâre just going to have to take my word for it. |
| 12:12.41 | mitch0 | Mercurial is better than Subversion." |
| 12:14.12 | Xinhuan | or try Git |
| 12:14.49 | Kalroth | git for gits! |
| 12:15.49 | mitch0 | I have an aversion towards git |
| 12:16.44 | Xinhuan | bad experience? |
| 12:16.54 | mitch0 | sorta |
| 12:17.01 | mitch0 | I tried it first in cygwin ;) |
| 12:17.02 | Xinhuan | why |
| 12:17.21 | mitch0 | also, it just feels a lot of stuff piled up in a hodgepodge way |
| 12:17.52 | Xinhuan | hg and git are almost identical =.= |
| 12:18.20 | haste | "almost" |
| 12:18.23 | mitch0 | true, yet I still "feel" hg better put together |
| 12:18.28 | haste | yet still they are quite different |
| 12:18.48 | Xinhuan | that will probably be because hg is made after git (right?) |
| 12:19.00 | mitch0 | dunno about the timeline |
| 12:19.54 | arkanes | pretty much siblings |
| 12:20.05 | mitch0 | is git still a bunch of different programs (possibly even in different languages) thrown together? |
| 12:20.06 | Xinhuan | doubt it |
| 12:20.07 | arkanes | but they've both changed a lot since they were first written |
| 12:20.14 | Xinhuan | nope mitch lol |
| 12:20.31 | Xinhuan | git's core is like made by just one person |
| 12:20.32 | mitch0 | so it's pure c nowadays? |
| 12:22.16 | arkanes | git proper is mostly in c now |
| 12:22.28 | mitch0 | "mostly"? |
| 12:22.40 | arkanes | the commands are still all shell scripts |
| 12:22.53 | Xinhuan | it really depends on which package of git it is |
| 12:22.54 | arkanes | but they pretty much just do option parsing and the like |
| 12:23.41 | arkanes | git-svn appears to still be in perl |
| 12:23.51 | Xinhuan | you could think of git (or any CVS) as a specification, and then people can implement it in any language they want |
| 12:23.55 | arkanes | http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=tree |
| 12:23.57 | arkanes | look for yourself |
| 12:24.04 | Xinhuan | so someone could write one for windows, one for mac, etc |
| 12:24.06 | arkanes | Xinhuan: eh no |
| 12:24.12 | Xinhuan | no? |
| 12:24.24 | arkanes | I mean, you *could* say that, but it would be a hypothetical untainted by reality |
| 12:24.26 | Xinhuan | i hardly think the windows version of git is shell scripts |
| 12:24.30 | arkanes | but it is |
| 12:24.39 | arkanes | I'm not sure why thats hard to beleive |
| 12:25.08 | arkanes | of the major SCMs, only one (SVN) has an actual alternate implementation |
| 12:25.38 | Xinhuan | so how do you port them |
| 12:25.41 | mitch0 | I'm contemplating doing a hg++ |
| 12:25.55 | arkanes | Xinhuan: its not hard to write code that runs on more than 1 platform |
| 12:26.11 | arkanes | git was harder than most, which is why it took so long for there to be a windows port |
| 12:26.19 | Xinhuan | that would again be entirely dependant on what language its written in |
| 12:26.28 | arkanes | again, not really |
| 12:26.42 | arkanes | I mean, okay, obj-c is hard to run anywhere except OS X granted |
| 12:26.59 | arkanes | but the programs we're talking about are all written in highly portable languages |
| 12:27.10 | Kaelten | arkanes: not so |
| 12:27.13 | arkanes | git took a while to get rolling on the portability front |
| 12:27.22 | Megalon | mitch0: you could call it tl |
| 12:27.25 | Megalon | derp |
| 12:27.26 | Kaelten | arkanes: there is a git protocol written in python |
| 12:27.38 | mitch0 | megalon: tl? |
| 12:27.41 | arkanes | is there? |
| 12:27.46 | arkanes | well chalk up another, I suppose |
| 12:28.00 | Kaelten | ya, it's how hg-git works |
| 12:28.06 | arkanes | even the SVN one only barely counts |
| 12:28.16 | arkanes | since the java implmentation is buggy and slow and everyone hates it |
| 12:28.30 | mitch0 | I think I use that... |
| 12:28.35 | arkanes | if you use eclipse you probably do |
| 12:28.39 | mitch0 | I do |
| 12:28.43 | mitch0 | it's not that bad |
| 12:28.49 | mitch0 | *shrug* |
| 12:28.50 | arkanes | eclipses SVN integration is pretty much the only reason it works at all |
| 12:28.57 | Kaelten | ya eclipsesvn reimplements the protocol |
| 12:29.26 | Megalon | mitch0: the element after mercury, thallium |
| 12:29.33 | mitch0 | ah |
| 12:29.44 | Xinhuan | back to what i was saying, anyone is free to re-implement the "specification" if its known |
| 12:29.50 | arkanes | theres a version that also uses libsvn which generally works better, but it's harder to install |
| 12:29.51 | Xinhuan | it doesn't necessarily have to be a port |
| 12:29.52 | mitch0 | wouldn't ring a bell for most ppl in a way that hg++ would, I guess |
| 12:30.03 | Xinhuan | nor would a port be optimal in some cases |
| 12:30.18 | arkanes | Xinhuan: sure, and anyone is welcome to ride their pony to candyland, too. That's not what actually happens |
| 12:30.39 | Megalon | yea, it would be quite subtle hehe |
| 12:30.47 | arkanes | I don't see why you're arguing against git being written mostly in C, but with lots of shell scripts. I mean, you can go look. |
| 12:30.50 | arkanes | http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=tree |
| 12:31.06 | Xinhuan | i'm not arguing that |
| 12:31.12 | arkanes | the c part is the distributed file system, the shell scripts are the commands on top of it |
| 12:31.21 | arkanes | the windows port is the same thing, but they package the scripts so they're easy to run |
| 12:31.38 | Xinhuan | i'm merely standing by what i said that its a specification that can be implemented by anyone |
| 12:31.40 | arkanes | just like the windows "port" of hg is just all the python wrapped up in an executable |
| 12:31.52 | Xinhuan | and that "its mostly written in C" is irrelevant |
| 12:32.20 | arkanes | okay if that makes you happy |
| 12:36.28 | Stanzilla | massive hate for the blizzard buff frame in cata :( |
| 12:38.18 | Elkano | yeah :/ |
| 12:38.48 | Stanzilla | can't even move it |
| 12:39.00 | Megalon | i like to move it, move it |
| 12:39.02 | Megalon | :( |
| 12:39.40 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 12:40.16 | Megalon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyx4v1QFzhQ ! |
| 12:40.22 | Megalon | and not that madagascar bullshit :7 |
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| 13:04.43 | kagaro | tem: pong |
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| 13:05.07 | nevcairiel | there he is! |
| 13:05.09 | nevcairiel | ~lart kagaro |
| 13:05.09 | purl | beats kagaro over the head with a microkernel |
| 13:05.23 | kagaro | what did i do |
| 13:06.01 | kagaro | just saw post. |
| 13:06.02 | nevcairiel | you setup your lib the old and ugly way! |
| 13:06.17 | nevcairiel | and ackis approved it, shh! |
| 13:07.00 | Megalon | ackis approves everything! |
| 13:07.10 | Megalon | and afterwards he just says "but i was in the resistance" |
| 13:07.11 | Megalon | :( |
| 13:07.43 | nevcairiel | funny enough, you had it right on libmapdata |
| 13:11.23 | kagaro | other than the sub dir, its the same setup |
| 13:11.43 | nevcairiel | the subdir is the problem, it doesnt work with git :p |
| 13:11.52 | kagaro | fixing it right now |
| 13:12.57 | nevcairiel | curious, the beta version was bumped to 4.0.3 with last nights patch |
| 13:13.05 | nevcairiel | guess 4.0.1 is really about ready |
| 13:14.04 | kagaro | fixed nevcairiel |
| 13:14.23 | sbu | nevcairiel: of course it is, see streaming client announcements :o |
| 13:14.34 | nevcairiel | it wont be released next week |
| 13:14.42 | sbu | well not EU, right |
| 13:14.45 | nevcairiel | they will not release it before the end of the arena season |
| 13:14.50 | nevcairiel | that would just be silly |
| 13:15.00 | nevcairiel | so it'll hit US on the 12th, EU on the 13th |
| 13:15.11 | nevcairiel | at the earliest |
| 13:16.44 | Slayman | Civ5 SDK is out, and it's using lua with xml |
| 13:16.54 | nevcairiel | mmo-c is always making hard facts out of statements like "approximately" |
| 13:16.57 | nevcairiel | its really getting silly |
| 13:17.19 | nevcairiel | sbu: btw, look at the trial page again :p |
| 13:17.23 | nevcairiel | Wait for the Streaming Trial Download |
| 13:17.23 | nevcairiel | (Available soon) |
| 13:17.26 | nevcairiel | date is gone |
| 13:17.28 | sbu | oh... :p |
| 13:20.58 | Xinhuan | well nev |
| 13:21.07 | Xinhuan | did you see wowhead's prediction lol |
| 13:21.29 | nevcairiel | at least wowhead says "tentative, possible" |
| 13:21.39 | nevcairiel | not "Cataclysm release date added: <date in bold>" |
| 13:22.19 | Xinhuan | both dates match though |
| 13:22.26 | nevcairiel | thats not my point :p |
| 13:22.35 | nevcairiel | sure, its a likely date, due to the announcement |
| 13:22.39 | nevcairiel | but it could be one week before |
| 13:22.43 | Xinhuan | although the 12/7 date was initially thought of as a pearl harbour reference |
| 13:22.47 | Xinhuan | since the wording is similr |
| 13:22.50 | nevcairiel | it could even still be moved |
| 13:23.11 | nevcairiel | making it out as hard fact is just silly |
| 13:23.32 | nevcairiel | All i want it some adjective in there to weaken the statement :p |
| 13:23.36 | Xinhuan | well |
| 13:23.37 | nevcairiel | s/it/is/ |
| 13:24.14 | Xinhuan | if cata is 12/7 and 4.0.3 is 1 week befre that, and 4.0.1 is 2 weeks before that |
| 13:24.29 | Xinhuan | that's like 1 week from now |
| 13:24.46 | nevcairiel | 4.0.1 is 12th of oct |
| 13:25.17 | nevcairiel | the changes in the ptr are getting very small, beta was branched off and bumped to 4.0.3 |
| 13:25.19 | sbu | i think they will do another us-+1week-eu release... |
| 13:25.25 | nevcairiel | doubt it |
| 13:26.07 | nevcairiel | with this patch, it would create too much QQ |
| 13:26.17 | sbu | but so much could go wrong with this release :p (streaming client, new everything, ...) |
| 13:26.34 | sbu | so there will be QQ anyways because of >1d server downtime |
| 13:27.27 | nevcairiel | didnt we even have a scheduled downtime of that time with the 3.0 patch :D |
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| 13:28.35 | sbu | cant remember, but its all "s21"'s fault - at least in eu/ger :p |
| 13:28.53 | nevcairiel | who's? |
| 13:29.07 | kagaro | ahh well crap the repo is broken again |
| 13:29.19 | nevcairiel | how do you break a git repo |
| 13:29.39 | kagaro | the project permissions got dorked again |
| 13:30.01 | kagaro | error: failed to push some refs to 'git@git.wowace.com:wow/libbackdrop-1-0/mainline.git' |
| 13:30.10 | sbu | nevcairiel: go watch some news :p stuttgart 21, its everywhere :| and responsible for anything that could go wrong |
| 13:30.26 | nevcairiel | i dont get those people |
| 13:30.32 | Kalroth | i get them |
| 13:30.33 | nevcairiel | i would like a modern new train station |
| 13:30.38 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 13:30.38 | sbu | nevcairiel: same here :p |
| 13:30.55 | nevcairiel | I didnt bother to figure out why they are against it, though |
| 13:31.10 | sbu | i have to, because its like 2km from here :| |
| 13:35.45 | kagaro | every time the packager touches the newly created repo it seems like the permissions breaks |
| 13:36.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:37.03 | nevcairiel | better let Kaelten know |
| 13:43.38 | nevcairiel | lua> format("%q", nil) |
| 13:43.39 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 13:43.44 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%q", nil) |
| 13:43.44 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 13:44.19 | sbu | so, new guild achievment stuff with cata or 4.0.1? |
| 13:44.49 | nevcairiel | dont think so, no |
| 13:44.51 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%q", 1 |
| 13:44.51 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 13:44.53 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%q", 1) |
| 13:44.53 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: "1" |
| 13:44.57 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%q", "foo") |
| 13:44.57 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: "foo" |
| 13:45.47 | kagaro | well improved blood tap talent doesnt work ⦠nice! |
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| 13:46.42 | Megalon | <nevcairiel> meh query the bot |
| 13:46.44 | Megalon | :P |
| 13:46.58 | nevcairiel | this is my query |
| 13:47.01 | nevcairiel | wtf are you doing here anyway! |
| 13:48.14 | Megalon | i'm ruining your day |
| 13:48.24 | Megalon | the small part you didn't already yourself |
| 13:49.42 | nevcairiel | my day was mostly boring, can only get better now |
| 13:50.38 | Megalon | lets see if we can change that |
| 13:50.39 | Megalon | FISKER |
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| 14:00.15 | nevcairiel | Repo seems to be broken as well |
| 14:04.28 | quiesense | nev broked it |
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| 14:06.38 | kagaro | Kaelten is aware of the issue |
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| 14:20.35 | Megalon | nev, stop queuen all your 2345 accounts on mekkatorque |
| 14:20.43 | nevcairiel | but i need to |
| 14:20.51 | Megalon | nooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 15:01.37 | steev | son of bitch, i knew i was forgetting something at home today |
| 15:05.27 | Kaelten | repo isn't broke |
| 15:05.32 | Kaelten | he's just not moved yet |
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| 15:08.20 | nevcairiel | he doesnt fullfill his dutys |
| 15:08.25 | nevcairiel | so he is either slacking off, or broken |
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| 15:28.41 | pompy | "You cannot log in while using world of warcraft remote".... |
| 15:28.44 | pompy | im not? |
| 15:28.49 | pompy | wtf |
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| 15:32.51 | steev | you broke it |
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| 15:36.49 | Slayman | any of you blokes up for some SSF4 on XBL? I'm bored |
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| 16:10.51 | Fisker | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
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| 16:25.26 | Kaelten | :P |
| 16:25.38 | Yssaril | is repo reporting agin? |
| 16:36.13 | quiesense | o.o |
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| 16:56.39 | nevcairiel | Yssaril: what part of the map was being tainted again? |
| 16:57.11 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: the quest parts and POI stuff blows up again |
| 16:57.19 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 16:57.33 | nevcairiel | oh well, i'll get to it on the weekend |
| 16:58.10 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: also when displaying a POI the map can't move or scale and gives http://paste.wowace.com/2530/ |
| 16:58.52 | steev | flex raid inc |
| 16:58.54 | nevcairiel | heh, i guess they changed API |
| 16:59.34 | Yssaril | did they ever giv us a reason why the POI stuff is secure to begin with? |
| 16:59.43 | jnwhiteh | preventing automation |
| 16:59.45 | jnwhiteh | same as always |
| 17:00.19 | jnwhiteh | and in some cases (mapping being one) they prefer to do things in C, since the Lua interface is so terrible |
| 17:00.31 | Yssaril | how does POI == automation? |
| 17:01.28 | jnwhiteh | knowing where the player needs to go |
| 17:01.32 | nevcairiel | the blobs are drawn onto a big frame, i don't see how that thing needs to be secure |
| 17:01.38 | nevcairiel | you can't get the info out of it anyway |
| 17:01.44 | jnwhiteh | not something they've ever been interested in revealing |
| 17:01.58 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure why it's secure |
| 17:02.08 | nevcairiel | but shrugs, its a protected frame, and screws with the map |
| 17:02.16 | jnwhiteh | its opaque because they err on the side of caution |
| 17:02.16 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 17:02.24 | nevcairiel | my "fix" was to re-parent the blob frame when i need to do stuff to the map |
| 17:02.29 | jnwhiteh | lots of things wind up protected due to parenting |
| 17:02.32 | nevcairiel | so the map is no longer secure |
| 17:02.51 | nevcairiel | it actually worked pretty well |
| 17:03.08 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 17:03.11 | nevcairiel | sadly it means that the blobs hide in combat |
| 17:03.17 | nevcairiel | but noone complained =) |
| 17:03.25 | jnwhiteh | yeah, I can't imagine they would |
| 17:03.38 | jnwhiteh | I wish we could get them to open it up a bit. |
| 17:04.00 | nevcairiel | guess they just jumbled some stuff around |
| 17:04.04 | nevcairiel | should be easy to fix |
| 17:04.05 | nevcairiel | i hope |
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| 17:13.48 | steev | woo, 3 quests away from 1/2 way done with Eastern Kingdoms |
| 17:14.32 | steev | i won't be raiding for a while though, i think, so loremaster should be easy to come across |
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| 17:44.19 | Aikar | anyone able to give me a line of code to move a window to center screen, and anyone know ATSW frame name? |
| 17:44.27 | Aikar | ive dragged it off screen ; ; |
| 17:44.31 | Aikar | now i cant find it lol |
| 17:46.07 | Stanzilla | Adys: had time to look at that rss stuff? :) |
| 17:51.05 | sbu | Kaelten: wowstead needs teamspeak and mumble support :o |
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| 17:59.22 | Kaelten | sbu: indeed |
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| 18:02.39 | kagaro | i wish i could convience my guild to switch to mumble |
| 18:04.31 | sbu | we are happy with ts3 |
| 18:04.42 | quiesense | threaten violence |
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| 18:05.24 | starlon | Sprint's website sucks balls. |
| 18:06.03 | SqueeG | gdi, how the hell can you check whether an item is soulbound or not? |
| 18:06.50 | starlon | should state in the tooltip |
| 18:07.41 | SqueeG | =p |
| 18:07.45 | starlon | unless an addon's not playing nice |
| 18:07.56 | SqueeG | No no, i want the addon to check |
| 18:08.02 | starlon | ah |
| 18:08.29 | starlon | might have to scan the tooltip if there's no other way |
| 18:08.52 | koaschten | haha |
| 18:08.56 | koaschten | premade copy is working for beta |
| 18:09.07 | koaschten | and instantly mekkatorque has a queue of 1000+ |
| 18:10.01 | Yssaril | SqueeG: i belive you have to scan the tooltip for that info |
| 18:10.08 | SqueeG | *sad* |
| 18:10.11 | SqueeG | thanks |
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| 18:12.08 | Yssaril | SqueeG: scanning isn't all that bad |
| 18:12.42 | SqueeG | eh, it just means I need to rewrite my function |
| 18:13.15 | SqueeG | again* xD |
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| 18:15.01 | Megalon | koaschten: yea, noobinvasion |
| 18:15.19 | Megalon | now the chats are full of mouthbreathers |
| 18:15.26 | koaschten | and i can't even copy premades, the counter stays at 5 remaining copies |
| 18:15.32 | koaschten | and there is no copy pending |
| 18:16.47 | koaschten | here we go error 500 with a stack trace, char copy server killed successfully |
| 18:16.48 | koaschten | :D |
| 18:17.35 | quiescens | hoorays |
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| 18:26.48 | arkanes_ | speaking of tooltip scanning, is there a well-recommended lib for it? |
| 18:26.59 | arkanes_ | I need to do it to find shield values |
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| 19:13.39 | EthanCentaurai | Mekkatorque is full... position in queue: over 9000 |
| 19:13.45 | EthanCentaurai | sobs a little |
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| 19:26.03 | Copperman | weeee, this time tomorrow I'll be married :D |
| 19:26.19 | ramoz | wow, sorry for your loss |
| 19:26.32 | starlon | lol |
| 19:26.41 | Copperman | lol, thanks man |
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| 19:31.25 | Mikk | my sympathies |
| 19:31.29 | Mikk | to the better half |
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| 19:42.55 | ramoz | Copperman: j/k - congratulations |
| 19:42.56 | ramoz | :) |
| 19:57.31 | nevcairiel | seriously, 1000 queue on the beta realms, can we get a new ban wave please? I need to test stuff :p |
| 19:58.47 | starlon | damn |
| 20:05.57 | sbu | nevcairiel: new beta key wave :| |
| 20:06.01 | sbu | yesterday |
| 20:06.53 | nevcairiel | fuck them |
| 20:06.59 | nevcairiel | the realms had queues before that |
| 20:07.02 | nevcairiel | how many more people can they need |
| 20:08.06 | starlon | they're stress testing the login servers |
| 20:08.10 | starlon | nods. |
| 20:09.38 | Gnarfoz | you're nodding because you're falling asleep, waiting in the queue? |
| 20:09.56 | starlon | nah |
| 20:10.04 | nevcairiel | i just watched a movie, had i known this big queue, i would've tried to login before starting! |
| 20:10.12 | starlon | lol |
| 20:10.16 | nevcairiel | .. and be about done now |
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| 20:15.02 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: watch another one |
| 20:15.48 | nevcairiel | i'm afraid i fall asleep then |
| 20:17.09 | tem | viva la resistance |
| 20:17.15 | nevcairiel | I'm half through the queue! |
| 20:17.23 | tem | I found your problem nevcairiel |
| 20:17.30 | tem | you needed to lose your whole fuckin base |
| 20:18.03 | nevcairiel | wut |
| 20:18.10 | tem | sorry |
| 20:18.17 | tem | it's friday and I'm a little giddy |
| 20:18.32 | tem | also, day9 must have been on something for last funday monday |
| 20:18.42 | tem | because he was hilarious |
| 20:18.48 | tem | way more so than normal |
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| 20:29.35 | moop | sorry if this has been asked constantly since the recent update, but is anyone else having an issue where their (complimentary) Curse Premium renewed after the update and hasn't activated in the Client? |
| 20:30.16 | moop | i.e. I'm informed that I'm using the standard client and should pay a subscription if I want premium |
| 20:42.49 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: did you somehow break the git hooks? Its coming up with some syntax error when tryign to push some file .. but i'm certain there is none =p |
| 20:43.24 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: its a file with a UTF8 BOM. Vanilla Lua doesnt like those, wasnt a problem on the old server, fwiw |
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| 20:44.24 | kagaro | ahh it was you then nev :P I had to go edit out those boms to do a commit |
| 20:44.42 | nevcairiel | was me what? |
| 20:44.53 | kagaro | in gathermate2 locale files |
| 20:45.59 | arkanes_ | utf8 boms make the world a sad place |
| 20:46.07 | nevcairiel | some editors require them |
| 20:46.16 | arkanes_ | if by "some editors" you mean 'notepad' :( |
| 20:46.24 | nevcairiel | and any sane editor should work fine with and without |
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| 20:48.48 | Kaelten | ya that's part of the problem |
| 20:48.53 | Kaelten | we have no documentation on the old server |
| 20:49.03 | Kaelten | so me just 'setting it back up' |
| 20:49.06 | Kaelten | is.... challenging |
| 20:49.40 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:49.46 | nevcairiel | i hope you're documenting this time around :) |
| 20:56.34 | Torhal | Kaelten: I thought ckknight documented everything! |
| 20:57.11 | ckknight | nah, I was pretty lax about server setup stuff |
| 20:57.17 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 20:57.43 | ckknight | Kaelten: compile the WoW lua, it's on googlecode somewhere |
| 20:59.00 | SqueeG | GM2? O_O |
| 20:59.03 | SqueeG | is taht cata only? |
| 20:59.04 | Kaelten | ckknight: any idea what's going on with the git repos? |
| 21:00.30 | VonhintenHOME` | unicode strikes again |
| 21:00.39 | VonhintenHOME` | Can we not just all agree to speak english, please... |
| 21:01.16 | SqueeG | english FTW! |
| 21:01.26 | arkanes_ | UTF8 "boms" aren't even a unicode thing, they're just crazy nonsense |
| 21:01.48 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, sure they are |
| 21:01.58 | arkanes_ | nah |
| 21:02.03 | arkanes_ | you don't need a bom in utf8 |
| 21:02.18 | kagaro | SqueeG: its targetted for cataclysm |
| 21:02.26 | arkanes_ | because they byte order doesn't matter. They're discouraged by the spec, and didn't even exist until notepad decided to use them |
| 21:02.55 | kagaro | well with 4.0.1 update it should work on live, since i keep dual zone data in LibMapdata for the pre and post transition |
| 21:03.33 | VonhintenHOME` | Can you tell the difference between an ansi file and a utf8 file without the BOM |
| 21:03.49 | kagaro | textmate can |
| 21:03.54 | nevcairiel | sure, lookout for chars that are not ansi :D |
| 21:03.56 | arkanes_ | VonhintenHOME`: of course you can |
| 21:04.04 | arkanes_ | assuming you meant ascii |
| 21:04.09 | nevcairiel | although it is a bit guess work |
| 21:04.13 | arkanes_ | nah |
| 21:04.21 | arkanes_ | as stated, it's actually a trick question - there is no difference |
| 21:04.35 | VonhintenHOME` | yes there is, utf8 can have surrogate pairs |
| 21:04.38 | arkanes_ | telling the difference between, say, utf-8 and latin-1 is where it gets trickier |
| 21:04.48 | arkanes_ | VonhintenHOME`: any ascii file is also a utf8 file |
| 21:04.57 | VonhintenHOME` | that doesn't go in reverse |
| 21:05.00 | arkanes_ | I know |
| 21:05.04 | arkanes_ | but it doesn't matter |
| 21:05.35 | arkanes_ | can you give me a situation where you have to know the difference between an ascii file and a utf8 file? |
| 21:06.19 | VonhintenHOME` | umm, collation? |
| 21:06.31 | arkanes_ | not affected by encoding |
| 21:07.02 | arkanes_ | thats locale and perhaps normalization, and it still wouldn't matter if the source as in the ascii subset of utf8 |
| 21:07.59 | Nickenyfiken | Bah, how the hell are you supposed to develop addons for Cata with a 45 min login queue? |
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| 21:08.21 | nevcairiel | dont log out |
| 21:08.28 | Torhal | Nickenyfiken: Hire a gold farmer to sit at your computer. |
| 21:08.43 | nevcairiel | restarting the client even works |
| 21:08.47 | nevcairiel | as long as its fast enough |
| 21:08.49 | Torhal | Just don't tell him it's the beta |
| 21:08.55 | Nickenyfiken | Haha |
| 21:09.21 | Nickenyfiken | Oh it does? Well you still have to wait for the first login... |
| 21:09.33 | moop | is anyone else having an issue where their (complimentary) Curse Premium renewed after the update and hasn't activated in the Client? |
| 21:09.37 | VonhintenHOME` | add files temp1 through temp10 to your addon, and just put code into them as appropriate, rename them later for content :) |
| 21:10.13 | Torhal | Kaelten: moop has a possibly server-related question. |
| 21:10.30 | Kaelten | I have a possibly server related answer |
| 21:10.43 | Kaelten | moop restarted? |
| 21:10.51 | moop | my PC, or the client? |
| 21:10.54 | Kaelten | client |
| 21:10.59 | moop | yeah, several times |
| 21:11.00 | Torhal | I think if you don't get all of this done soon, you'll actually be related to the server. |
| 21:11.03 | nevcairiel | Pc works too, as it implies a client restart =) |
| 21:11.08 | Kaelten | signed in with the correct sure? |
| 21:11.19 | Kaelten | user* |
| 21:11.36 | moop | yep, in the email it says "dear <name>" and that's the name I'm using to log into the client |
| 21:11.52 | moop | I also used my email address as an alternative login name, and the same problem occurs |
| 21:15.03 | steev | what up |
| 21:15.05 | moop | it's been working fine for months, I think the recent client update combined with the complimentary premium renewal messed something up |
| 21:15.27 | Kaelten | moopI poked the guy who's over that stuff, please make a ticket on the client support site too |
| 21:15.28 | moop | that, or I'm missing something really obvious :P |
| 21:15.53 | Humbedooh | I'd blame ckknight myself |
| 21:15.53 | moop | sure, just wanted to quickly check IRC first just in case it was my mistake |
| 21:15.55 | Humbedooh | or bibi! |
| 21:16.04 | Bibi | HIGHLIGHT? |
| 21:16.04 | Bibi | YES? |
| 21:16.14 | Humbedooh | bonjour! |
| 21:16.18 | Bibi | bonjour mon ami! |
| 21:17.05 | Torhal | ckknight: We should do something about Humbedooh - he alternately blames either you or I for seemingly random events. |
| 21:17.25 | Humbedooh | pft, I didn't blame you |
| 21:17.37 | Torhal | Not this time. Hence the word "either". |
| 21:17.41 | Torhal | And the word "or" |
| 21:17.45 | Humbedooh | and ckknight is used to it - it comes with the microsoft territory |
| 21:17.46 | Torhal | You know. Semantics. |
| 21:17.53 | Humbedooh | :> |
| 21:18.05 | Kaelten | Torhal: I do the same thiong |
| 21:18.07 | Kaelten | so weird |
| 21:18.29 | Torhal | Kaelten: Well, we already know what to do about you. It's partially why you are the way you are. |
| 21:18.55 | ckknight | Humbedooh: your fault |
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| 21:27.21 | Fisker | Kaelten |
| 21:27.22 | Fisker | hello |
| 21:27.24 | Fisker | herro |
| 21:32.05 | moop | "I received the monthly email informing me that my complimentary Curse Premium subscription had been renewed, however, since then and updating to 4.0.1.96, the client isn't recognising my premium account. I've tried logging out/restarting and using both my username and email address to log in, but to no avail." |
| 21:32.11 | moop | is that a satisfactory ticket? :D |
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| 21:40.50 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:40.53 | ckknight | moop: log out, close down the curse client, open it back up, make sure you're logged in as the correct user |
| 21:41.05 | moop | alright, one second |
| 21:41.24 | moop | the user I'm logging in as is "oomp", for the record |
| 21:42.03 | Parnic|Work | just fyi: "The webpage at http://auth.curse.com/NetworkService.asmx/shareSession?from=http://www.wowstead.com/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address." |
| 21:42.08 | moop | logged out, closed the client, opened it back up, and logged in as "oomp", and the same issue occurs |
| 21:42.12 | Parnic|Work | that's what chrome says when i click Wowstead from CC |
| 21:42.24 | Parnic|Work | ah, nvm. momentary hiccup. disregard. |
| 21:43.31 | moop | "Sep 30 (1 day ago) - Dear oomp,This email is to notify you of a complimentary subscription to Curse Premium!" |
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| 21:45.42 | moop | I'll restart my PC quickly as well, just in case something screwed up |
| 21:45.50 | moop | brb! |
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| 21:48.56 | moop | okay, after restarting my PC completely, I get the same issue |
| 21:49.02 | moop | so I don't think it's on my end |
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