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| 01:43.45 | Aikar | so how can we cancel buffs if using EBB or so |
| 01:44.02 | Aikar | anyone got a script to cancel the custome? |
| 01:45.56 | Yssaril | Aikar: /cancelaura <name> should still work |
| 01:45.57 | Hjalte | Haha, this poster would never do in the US. It's going to be all over the danish cinemas this week. http://ekstrabladet.dk/nationen/article1433682.ece NSFW |
| 01:46.10 | Aikar | throws a tainted error bout ace3 |
| 01:46.26 | Aikar | err not ace3 |
| 01:46.34 | Aikar | Error: AddOn ElkBuffBars attempted to call a forbidden function (CancelUnitBuff()) from a tainted execution path. |
| 01:47.03 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta14-1-g4982237 Modules/Aura/Filter.lua: [+1 commit] Fix Battle Shout in the Aura Filter. |
| 01:48.23 | Aikar | i had to macro it, couldnt type it |
| 01:48.31 | Yssaril | Aikar: no idea why that is tainted (buffbars atm cannot cancel buffs) |
| 01:49.13 | Shefki | Yssaril: It's very easy to taint the BuffFrame. |
| 01:49.20 | Shefki | It's dependent on the PlayerFrame too. |
| 01:49.40 | Shefki | You touch PlayerFrame in anyway that touches something that touches PlayerFrame.unit and you've tainted BuffFrame too. |
| 01:49.57 | Yssaril | which in turn tains /cancelaura ? |
| 01:50.05 | Shefki | No way to taint /cancelaura |
| 01:50.10 | Yssaril | s/tains/taints/ |
| 01:50.33 | Yssaril | ahhh nm Aikar figured it out i guess |
| 01:50.48 | Aikar | its cause i typed it |
| 01:50.53 | Aikar | macroing to hotbar worked |
| 01:51.08 | Shefki | Typing won't prevent you from doing that unless your chat box is tainted. |
| 01:51.18 | Aikar | so much taint :( |
| 01:51.20 | Shefki | In which case you should look at your chat addon. |
| 01:51.33 | Aikar | im using chatter, but it said in the msg EBB is the one |
| 01:51.49 | Shefki | You sure you didn't just typo the aura name? |
| 01:51.58 | Aikar | pretty sure O.o |
| 01:52.38 | Aikar | http://gist.github.com/633456 |
| 01:52.46 | Aikar | ok i did see an ace3 being the taint master |
| 01:54.01 | Repo | 10xperl: 03mysticalos * r445 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: Rune order is sequencial now |
| 01:55.24 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r220 / (2 files in 1 directory): -fix for new behavior of MD and Tricks |
| 01:55.25 | Repo | -MD cooldown is reset when it is clicked off or it fades without use |
| 01:55.26 | Repo | -Tricks CD is reset only when it fades, if the rogue cancels it goes on CD |
| 01:56.45 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r221 LibLordFarlander-ItemList-2.0/LibLordFarlander-ItemList-2.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 01:56.46 | Repo | - Fix uses of GetItemCooldown |
| 01:59.29 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.222 * r222 : Tagging as 2.0.222 |
| 02:00.07 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r222 / (2 files in 1 directory): Coconuts: |
| 02:00.08 | Repo | - TOC update |
| 02:00.09 | Repo | - Simplify mount detection |
| 02:00.17 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 043.0.223 * r223 : Tagging as 3.0.223 |
| 02:00.22 | kagaro | Shefki: does pitbull 4.0 allow cancel buffs yet? i.e. did you implement the new SecureAuraHandler? |
| 02:00.33 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r231 MiniPet.toc: MiniPet: |
| 02:00.34 | Repo | - TOC update |
| 02:00.53 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 045.1.232 * r232 : Tagging as 5.1.232 |
| 02:01.21 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r124 Elephant.toc: Updating TOC version. |
| 02:02.17 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 042.10-alpha * r125 : Tagging as 2.10-alpha |
| 02:03.11 | Connor1 | I want instant queues as a healer |
| 02:03.59 | Shefki | kagaro: Not yet. |
| 02:04.55 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 042.9.7-alpha * r126 : Tagging as 2.9.7-alpha |
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| 02:12.43 | quiescens | moo |
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| 02:25.01 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03Sayclub * r157 GridStatusHotsLocale_koKR.lua: koKR update |
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| 02:25.29 | Repo | 10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r150 / (5 files in 3 directories): Removed some debugging code that caused characters on your own account to use the cross-account mail. |
| 02:25.30 | Repo | Addes support GnomeWorks and ATSW queues. |
| 02:26.23 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r260 / (19 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 8 lines) |
| 02:26.25 | Repo | *3.02.57 (19-OCT-2010)* |
| 02:26.25 | Repo | * changed - mount code to work around a blizzard bug with IsFlyableArea( ) |
| 02:26.27 | Repo | * changed - default window width set to 14 |
| 02:26.28 | Repo | * changed - vault sorting order changed to make it look identical to blizzard interface. best results with width set to 14, sort order set to bag / slot, bar and item anchors set to bottom right, and everything assigned to a single bar |
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| 02:26.54 | steevdave | kagaro: link to that? google pulls up nothing for SecureAuraHandler |
| 02:26.59 | Torhal | I'm confused as to why a bag AddOn requires mount code. |
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| 02:29.04 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.57 * r261 : (Message trimmed by 8 lines) |
| 02:29.05 | Repo | *3.02.57 (19-OCT-2010)* |
| 02:29.06 | Yssaril | Torhal: just one more reason to stay away from ark-inventory |
| 02:29.07 | Repo | * changed - mount code to work around a blizzard bug with IsFlyableArea( ) |
| 02:29.08 | Repo | * changed - default window width set to 14 |
| 02:29.09 | Repo | * changed - vault sorting order changed to make it look identical to blizzard interface. best results with width set to 14, sort order set to bag / slot, bar and item anchors set to bottom right, and everything assigned to a single bar |
| 02:29.53 | Torhal | Yssaril: I keep telling people to, but then their eyes glaze over and I hear "Ooooh...shiny!" |
| 02:30.47 | Yssaril | Torhal: in the beginning it wasn't bad even had some good new ideas but then came the BLOAT which mande it slow as hell |
| 02:31.28 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r90 / (2 files in 1 directory): JebusMail: |
| 02:31.29 | Repo | - You can now split the friends list |
| 02:32.50 | Firepatch | i took someones advice and switched to adibags |
| 02:32.55 | Firepatch | cant say i miss ark much ;p |
| 02:33.18 | Yssaril | nothing to miss :P |
| 02:33.25 | Yssaril | unless you miss crap :P |
| 02:34.21 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro 041.5.4.3 * r390 : Tagging as 1.5.4.3 |
| 02:35.24 | Firepatch | id pay 20 bucks to be alowed into a zone where all the herbs are 3 feet apart in neat lines like a farm field..... |
| 02:36.50 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:36.50 | Repo | 10fu-bar_hey-fu: 03daf2 * r105 HeyFu.lua: added TipTac skinning support |
| 02:37.00 | Tuller | everytime i see a screenshot of adibags, it reminds me of vbagnon |
| 02:38.23 | Yssaril | Tuller: vbagnon supports categories? |
| 02:38.36 | Yssaril | or filters? |
| 02:39.28 | Zhinjio | <3 adibags |
| 02:39.35 | Zhinjio | it does precisely what I want in a bag addon |
| 02:40.03 | Torhal | Zhinjio: It doesn't serve beer, though. |
| 02:40.18 | nebula169 | there's a plugin for that |
| 02:40.20 | Zhinjio | Torhal: fortunately, I have a wife for that |
| 02:40.27 | Torhal | Haha |
| 02:40.33 | Zhinjio | and further, I can only say that because she never reads irc |
| 02:40.47 | Zhinjio | otherwise, she'd kick my ass |
| 02:41.35 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libwiki/. LibWiki-1.0. Humbedooh (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:41.45 | Torhal | Zhinjio: :D |
| 02:41.52 | Yssaril | Zhinjio: does she read bash.org? |
| 02:41.56 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Broker_Currency working out for ya? |
| 02:42.03 | Zhinjio | no, and yes. |
| 02:42.08 | Connor1 | haste |
| 02:43.21 | Tuller | Yssaril: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7341420/vbagnon.jpg :P |
| 02:44.32 | Zhinjio | kagaro: wtf happened to background color/texture blending? |
| 02:44.53 | Yssaril | tuller looks "messy" to me frames seam to be kinda randomly placed http://static.wowace.com/content/images/21/359/adibags.jpg seams neater to me |
| 02:45.19 | Tuller | those frames were all randomly placed :P |
| 02:45.25 | Tuller | either way, its a screenshot from 2007 |
| 02:45.35 | Parnic | i never liked the auto-categorization of items...i never know which category the item i want is going to be in |
| 02:45.46 | nebula169 | i liked baggins style virtual bags |
| 02:45.48 | Shefki | Parnic: You get used to it. |
| 02:46.04 | Parnic | i'd much rather just double-click the bagnon header and type the name of the thing i want. done :) |
| 02:46.07 | Parnic | screw categories |
| 02:46.16 | Shefki | Parnic: I can do that too. :) |
| 02:46.29 | Parnic | oh yeah? well i don't care what you can do. so there. |
| 02:46.34 | Shefki | lol |
| 02:47.49 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ldb-vengeance/. LDB-Vengeance. DerSchreiner (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:47.51 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/simpleraidframeoverlays/. SimpleRaidFrameOverlays. infarmboy (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:47.55 | Zhinjio | once Adirelle added in section hiding when I asked him, adibags is perfect for me |
| 02:48.26 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_soulshardbar/. PitBull4_SoulShardBar. Starinnia (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:48.34 | Repo | 10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren * r30 GridStatusPriestAoe.lua: |
| 02:48.35 | Repo | - Update for 4.0.1 talents and coefficients. Holy Nova still needs to be updated for the new mechanics, if possible at all. |
| 02:48.36 | Repo | - Fixed a bug where the statuses would remain active after switching to a zone without map data |
| 02:48.53 | steevdave | woot |
| 02:48.55 | steevdave | 46k dps |
| 02:48.58 | Parnic | man the new launcher sure does 'apply critical updates' a ton |
| 02:49.04 | steevdave | trash before sindragosa but whatever |
| 02:49.07 | Parnic | what the heck is it doing |
| 02:49.10 | Tuller | the thing i want to do is make category buttons draggable from the bags -> bank for quick moving of junk |
| 02:50.03 | Repo | 10pitbull4_soulshardbar: 03Starinnia 041.0.0 * r4 : Tagging as release 1.0.0 |
| 02:50.26 | Zhinjio | is it just my copy of kgpanels thats whacked out now on textured panels? |
| 02:50.56 | Parnic | have you tried un-whacking it? |
| 02:51.15 | Zhinjio | I left my unwhacking tool at the office |
| 02:51.28 | Zhinjio | (well, assuming I worked, or had an office, neither of which is true) |
| 02:51.35 | Zhinjio | trying to do so now |
| 02:51.37 | Parnic | aww, sad boosh. |
| 02:51.52 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r191 / (9 files in 4 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 02:51.53 | Repo | - Started converting UI elements to use AceGUI-3.0 |
| 02:52.18 | Firepatch | i wish my girlfriends phone would fall into a bathtub or something equally devastating to the phone |
| 02:52.21 | Yssaril | @describe fbag-of-holding |
| 02:52.23 | Repo | Yssaril: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fbag-of-holding/. FBagOfHolding. Inventory and bank organizer. |
| 02:52.44 | Firepatch | she called me to ask what this "purchase interest charge" was on her credit card, it always showed up on the same day |
| 02:52.48 | Dark_Elf | creates yaba |
| 02:52.50 | Firepatch | ..... |
| 02:52.54 | Firepatch | facepalms |
| 02:53.03 | Dark_Elf | yet another bag addon |
| 02:54.44 | Zhinjio | unwhack successful. |
| 02:54.53 | Zhinjio | my system crash must have horked something up |
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| 03:00.20 | Amadeo | Is Cataclysm planning to reduce the cost of epic flying? |
| 03:02.13 | Yssaril | Amadeo: yes not in cost but in time needed to farm the cost :P |
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| 03:03.32 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r686 modules/Vengeance.lua: - fixed Vengeance module to work for all classes |
| 03:06.44 | Repo | 10ailo: 03stencil * r131 Ailo.lua: |
| 03:06.45 | Repo | Improvement to the fix to make the max level check dynamic again. |
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| 03:14.13 | Amadeo | Yssaril: I just wanna know if I should buy it for my alts now or wait :P |
| 03:15.25 | Parnic | oh good, mouseover pumpkin lockup |
| 03:15.26 | Parnic | dangit. |
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| 03:21.00 | Shefki | Parnic: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27300876552/workaround-gear-cog-icon-of-doom/ |
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| 03:25.48 | Parnic | cool i'll try it |
| 03:25.53 | Parnic | stuck on the load screen this time, though... |
| 03:26.09 | Parnic | stupid game :P |
| 03:28.26 | Yssaril | Amadeo: depends how you decide to level them to 85 if one after another then i wouldn't i'd buy it when you start leveing them but if all toghether and you have the funds now you might as well |
| 03:29.00 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn 041.2.3b * r30 : Tagging as 1.2.3b |
| 03:29.01 | Repo | Bug fixes |
| 03:36.00 | Connor1 | haste |
| 03:36.23 | Amadeo | Yssaril: I'll hit 80 tomorrow on a new DK, new server...about to have 5k |
| 03:37.05 | Yssaril | Amadeo: questing in the new zones is nice with a fast flying mount |
| 03:39.07 | Amadeo | true |
| 03:39.11 | Amadeo | ok, done |
| 03:39.13 | Amadeo | night :D |
| 03:39.15 | Yssaril | :P |
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| 03:52.38 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r687 modules/Vengeance.lua: - more minor fixes to vengeance text formatting |
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| 04:01.19 | Parnic | ~wowalert |
| 04:01.19 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 04:05.20 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 042.9.7-alpha * r127 : removing unneeded tag |
| 04:08.39 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 042.5.5 * r128 : removing unneeded tag |
| 04:11.15 | starlon | Can anyone reach this? http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/startip.aspx |
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| 04:12.24 | Yssaril | yes |
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| 04:16.30 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 042.10-alpha * r129 : removing unneeded tag |
| 04:17.53 | Repo | 10xperl: 03mysticalos * r446 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: more rune stuff |
| 04:21.56 | starlon | Thanks |
| 04:24.00 | starlon | Does curse show trends per day? |
| 04:24.21 | starlon | Speaking of overall addon downloads. |
| 04:25.07 | Shefki | starlon: I have no idea how it figures stuff, sometimes I don't believe it. |
| 04:25.46 | Hirsute | Those are the days they let me use their computers and I play with the numbers. >.> |
| 04:26.01 | Repo | 10realid-toons: 03Starinnia * r83 Core.lua: -remove the hook to the dropdown menu |
| 04:26.02 | Repo | -create a custom hyperlink type for the custom login alerts |
| 04:26.03 | Repo | -use a custom dropdown menu to eliminate taint issues |
| 04:27.27 | Xinhuan | look at the download counts |
| 04:27.27 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/postal.aspx |
| 04:27.32 | Xinhuan | i'm pretty sure they are wrong |
| 04:28.01 | Xinhuan | how does one get 108k downloads in 12 hours |
| 04:28.21 | Xinhuan | and 26k downloads in the 4 hours before that |
| 04:28.38 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Yeah I don't know I've noticed that too. |
| 04:28.39 | Xinhuan | then only 77k over the previous 6 days |
| 04:29.02 | Shefki | Unless it's just more people updating right now. |
| 04:29.07 | Parnic | because CCv4 only recently started adding to the website's counts |
| 04:29.22 | Parnic | it still doesn't add to the total but it started adding to the individual version download counts as of a few days ago |
| 04:29.22 | Xinhuan | it doesn't make sense ppl would update more one week after patch 4.0 |
| 04:29.40 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Sure it does. I rarely update addons unless they break. |
| 04:29.54 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Right now I'm firing up CCv4 all the time to see if other addons are getting fixes. |
| 04:29.59 | Shefki | So I update the other stuff while I'm at it. |
| 04:30.20 | Xinhuan | still i'm not sure if i believe the numbers lol |
| 04:30.20 | Parnic | i used to see ~3k downloads per version of my mod (that would be live for weeks/months) and now i am getting like 50k per day |
| 04:30.51 | Xinhuan | does it count all downloads of all alphas up to the release? |
| 04:30.56 | Xinhuan | see what i mean? |
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| 04:32.38 | Xinhuan | the best part is |
| 04:32.42 | Xinhuan | if you scroll up near the top |
| 04:32.50 | Xinhuan | Avg Daily DL (last 30 days): 256 |
| 04:32.51 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 04:32.59 | Parnic | yeah mine shows 336 |
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| 04:33.14 | starlon | heh |
| 04:33.16 | Parnic | that # and total dl aren't updated with cc downloads i don't think |
| 04:33.20 | Xinhuan | what? you have a daily DL number higher than postal? :P |
| 04:33.26 | Parnic | apparently |
| 04:33.37 | Xinhuan | omen's: Avg Daily DL (last 30 days): 329 |
| 04:33.39 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:33.44 | Xinhuan | i'm quite sure that's wrong |
| 04:33.46 | Parnic | owned :P |
| 04:33.53 | Parnic | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/MostDownloaded.aspx?SectionID=3816 |
| 04:34.06 | Parnic | according to that, i'm more popular than bagnon and bartender. lulz. |
| 04:34.33 | Xinhuan | "Hits" |
| 04:34.35 | Parnic | maybe that's just because i've been posting new releases like crazy |
| 04:34.36 | starlon | Yeah I want to see a timeline though. |
| 04:34.39 | Xinhuan | whatever that means |
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| 04:34.43 | Parnic | "hits" == avg daily dl |
| 04:35.01 | starlon | I mean I want a history. |
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| 04:35.27 | starlon | I can see my own addon. |
| 04:35.28 | Shefki | This makes me sad: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/categories/unit-frames.aspx |
| 04:35.45 | Parnic | yeah no kidding |
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| 04:36.00 | Joddie | what's sad about it? |
| 04:36.10 | Parnic | healbot #1 :P |
| 04:36.17 | Niv | and xperl #2? :P |
| 04:36.19 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/categories/boss-encounters.aspx |
| 04:36.26 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:36.39 | Joddie | well.. people seem to like it, so what's the problem? |
| 04:36.45 | Shefki | How the hell is Shadowed Unit Frames on that count? |
| 04:36.53 | Xinhuan | dbm is 10x more popular? |
| 04:36.53 | Parnic | joddie: go look at the code and let us know |
| 04:37.05 | quiescens | meh |
| 04:37.11 | Shefki | People just keep using the same thing. |
| 04:37.22 | Xinhuan | well ok |
| 04:37.29 | Xinhuan | DBM's latest zip has 630k downloads |
| 04:37.31 | Niv | people love dbm |
| 04:37.34 | Xinhuan | bigwigs at 28k |
| 04:37.41 | Niv | I have to drag people to DXE kicking and screaming |
| 04:37.44 | Parnic | not just love it, guilds require it :P |
| 04:37.45 | Xinhuan | so i guess maybe its right |
| 04:37.52 | Shefki | I have DXE, BW and DBM all installed. |
| 04:37.58 | Shefki | I only ever use DXE. |
| 04:38.00 | Xinhuan | i actually have all 3 installed too |
| 04:38.06 | Niv | I keep DBM installed |
| 04:38.07 | Xinhuan | and i can say, i use DXE |
| 04:38.08 | Niv | but never swap from DXE |
| 04:38.24 | Niv | bigwigs I ditched at the start of wrath |
| 04:38.35 | Xinhuan | i dropped bigwigs at start of wrath as well |
| 04:38.41 | Niv | it was barely being updated ;) |
| 04:38.42 | Xinhuan | well actually a bit later than that |
| 04:38.43 | Shefki | I switched to DXE at the start of ICC. |
| 04:38.43 | Joddie | Parnic: well... I dont think the avg user knows how any addon is made |
| 04:38.47 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r130 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Upgrading to Ace3 |
| 04:38.48 | Repo | - Now using better svn paths to other dependencies |
| 04:38.54 | Shefki | And then started working on it. *shrug* |
| 04:39.08 | Xinhuan | see how omen is in the boss mods category :P |
| 04:39.09 | Niv | I love DXE really |
| 04:39.18 | Xinhuan | since there's no threat meter category |
| 04:39.18 | Shefki | Xinhuan: I guess that makes sense sorta. |
| 04:39.28 | Shefki | Xinhuan: THere's no other threat meter. |
| 04:39.29 | Parnic | joddie: right, but you're in an addon dev channel |
| 04:39.37 | Xinhuan | there are quite a lot actually |
| 04:39.37 | Parnic | which is why we were saying it was sad |
| 04:39.38 | Shefki | Unless you count Skada I gues. |
| 04:39.59 | doom0r | many threat mods in the fubar/broker cats |
| 04:40.21 | Xinhuan | go wowi and type in "threat" |
| 04:40.22 | Parnic | xinhuan how many points do you earn per day for addon rewards? |
| 04:40.27 | Shefki | Good god people still use ora2 |
| 04:40.28 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 04:40.37 | Xinhuan | about 500? or 450 |
| 04:40.45 | quiescens | if it works and does what needs to be done then its good enough for most people's purposes |
| 04:40.46 | Parnic | per day? hahaha. that's awesome |
| 04:40.50 | quiescens | nodno |
| 04:40.52 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 04:40.53 | quiescens | d |
| 04:40.59 | Xinhuan | but 2 authors earn more than me :) |
| 04:41.05 | Xinhuan | or maybe 3 |
| 04:41.12 | Parnic | i bet those taxes are fun :P |
| 04:41.15 | Joddie | Parnic: lol.. true, but I have to say I haven't seen a lot of brilliant addon code in general (no offence to anyone in here). There's a lot of quick and dirty and patchy coding |
| 04:41.39 | Parnic | joddie: no disagreement. but you should take a look at healbot and compare it to some other addons |
| 04:41.59 | thelibrarian | healbot is awful, looking at the code to try to fix it once is what convinced me to drop it and never use it again |
| 04:42.01 | Joddie | Parnic: yeah I caught a discussion about it yesterday, kind of figured it was bad |
| 04:42.09 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: ckk and who else? |
| 04:42.10 | quiescens | delusions of grandeur aside, ultimately its mostly people writing little addons for some random game that they play every now and then |
| 04:42.14 | quiescens | lol |
| 04:42.40 | Xinhuan | nev earns more than me for one |
| 04:42.49 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 04:42.52 | Xinhuan | Bt4 is quite up there |
| 04:42.56 | Xinhuan | along with ace3 author |
| 04:43.01 | Xinhuan | and quartz |
| 04:43.03 | Xinhuan | and some others |
| 04:43.05 | Firepatch | what are "addon rewards"? |
| 04:43.25 | Yssaril | i lucked out with creating AceGUIshared media widgets :P |
| 04:43.29 | Shefki | Actually I bet ckk earns a lot less these days. |
| 04:43.30 | Niv | Shefki: oRA2 worked fine really, and it has some functionaity that oRA3 doesn't |
| 04:43.36 | Niv | we actually just dumped it this week |
| 04:43.38 | Niv | reluctantly |
| 04:43.41 | Shefki | Niv: Like what? |
| 04:43.52 | Niv | item checks for things like healthstones |
| 04:44.04 | Shefki | Why would you worry about that? |
| 04:44.11 | Niv | why would you work about anything? |
| 04:44.12 | nebula169 | micromangement |
| 04:44.14 | Niv | worry* |
| 04:44.26 | Firepatch | healthstones save lives |
| 04:44.26 | Parnic | firepatch: authors get points per day based on the popularity of their mod(s) and can spend them in the store: https://store.wowace.com/ |
| 04:44.56 | quiescens | if they aren't going to bother getting a healthstone unless you tell them to and check to make sure they have one |
| 04:45.02 | Firepatch | nice parnic |
| 04:45.05 | quiescens | they are most likely going to forget to use it anyway |
| 04:45.08 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/categories/auction-economy.aspx |
| 04:45.14 | Xinhuan | quickauctions climbing :P |
| 04:45.25 | Shefki | Honestly the rewards thing is somewhat skewed. |
| 04:45.25 | Niv | quiescens: that's a nice theory, but incorrect |
| 04:45.28 | Joddie | Parnic: nice system. |
| 04:45.34 | Joddie | *has 0 points* |
| 04:45.36 | Firepatch | parnic: is that paid for by advertising or something? |
| 04:45.44 | Yssaril | i usually die before i have time to HS so i usually just do it right after some predictable dmg to help out the healers |
| 04:45.49 | Shefki | There's quite a few addons that should just be removed from the system that just don't work yet still generate points. |
| 04:46.00 | doom0r | ^ |
| 04:46.02 | Parnic | i don't work for curse so i can't say how it's paid for. i assume advertising and more |
| 04:46.08 | Firepatch | ahhh its curse funded |
| 04:46.17 | Firepatch | im gonna make an addon "FreeNakedGirls" |
| 04:46.23 | Shefki | It's paid for by premium memberships. |
| 04:46.34 | Firepatch | and it'll ask for birthdate, and then say "your too old" or "your too young" |
| 04:46.41 | Yssaril | Firepatch: it needs to have a minimum number of downloads to even start generating points |
| 04:46.44 | Parnic | make sure it says "you're" :) |
| 04:46.52 | Firepatch | id worry about gramar in a later release |
| 04:46.59 | Parnic | i'd* grammar* |
| 04:47.04 | Firepatch | i'd. ;p |
| 04:47.12 | Parnic | </troll> |
| 04:47.17 | Niv | I haven't figured out why auctioneer hasn't pushed 5.10 to curse |
| 04:47.18 | Firepatch | sigh ;p |
| 04:47.22 | doom0r | r543 will introduce proper spelling |
| 04:47.42 | quiescens | fix it after release |
| 04:47.43 | doom0r | Niv: not listed as stable on their site, probably? |
| 04:47.49 | quiescens | its the way to go |
| 04:47.53 | Niv | they claim it's stable |
| 04:48.00 | Parnic | shefki: i honestly think that the questhelper dude is just creating a new mod to double up on points for precisely that reason (users not deleting mods) :P |
| 04:48.04 | Niv | The 5.10 branch is our current development branch for WoW 4.x client. It is currently stable. |
| 04:48.08 | doom0r | it's not the *stable* release however, i was just there a moment ago |
| 04:48.14 | Niv | hehe |
| 04:48.16 | Niv | I realize |
| 04:48.24 | Niv | but wtf is the point if your old one is hosed |
| 04:48.52 | doom0r | you avoid dealing with the support on the new one until you fix everything you already know about |
| 04:49.11 | Niv | versus the spam of people bitching about the old one being broken? :P |
| 04:49.13 | Repo | 10triage (experimental): 03baps * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 04:49.13 | Repo | Initial checkin of very basic start. Loads, runs, doesn't do much useful yet. |
| 04:49.17 | quiescens | instead you get to deal with everyone complaining that nothing works |
| 04:49.24 | doom0r | oh, i agree, you won't lose quantity anywhere |
| 04:49.32 | doom0r | you just can say, "it's beta, wait" |
| 04:49.46 | Yssaril | Niv: its easier to say its outdated vs yea we know about that that one too |
| 04:49.56 | quiescens | just ignore all the complaints |
| 04:50.19 | quiescens | people that want to use it can use it, if they don't like it then don't! |
| 04:50.41 | Repo | 10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock 07master * v1.4.2-cata-beta-2-g83d6ac0 core.lua: [+1 commit] fix up changes to live from beta |
| 04:53.33 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r131 / (2 files in 1 directory): Adding LibStub |
| 04:55.00 | Joddie | starts thinking in portals and aims for work |
| 05:07.05 | Repo | 10freeyourresources: 03Daedhir 07master * v0.1beta2 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Hooked a Blizzard function that altered the rune frame position |
| 05:07.10 | Repo | 10freeyourresources: 03Daedhir 04v0.1beta2 * e38cfb2 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1beta2 |
| 05:08.54 | Repo | 10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock 07master * v1.4.2-cata-beta-3-g6b10519 ldb.lua: [+1 commit] fix glitch with tip and removing it's reference |
| 05:09.07 | Repo | 10autopartybuttons: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.4-beta-34-gbd79e40 druid.lua: [+1 commit] Thorns for tank |
| 05:09.42 | Hirsute | Niv: We haven't pushed it to curse because we haven't worked out all the non-breaking bugs we know about, and because we haven't tested it thoroughly enough for our standards yet. |
| 05:10.47 | Repo | 10freeyourresources: 03Daedhir 07master * v0.1beta3 FreeYourResources.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed a scaling problem |
| 05:10.53 | Repo | 10freeyourresources: 03Daedhir 04v0.1beta3 * 652948a /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1beta3 |
| 05:11.02 | Hirsute | If people want to install a dev release, and deal with svn or downloading our zips to do so, they're welcome to use it, but we definitely don't want it in the land of auto-updaters yet. |
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| 05:32.43 | Repo | - Register CURRENCY_DISPLAY_UPDATE in order to catch justice points and conquest points update |
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| 05:47.16 | Rokiyo | hey parnic, are you here? |
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| 06:07.45 | Repo | 10xperl: 03mysticalos * r447 XPerl.lua: commit frolovm's patch for talented dispels. |
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| 06:08.51 | orionshock | Hjalte, APB updated with druid's thorns -> tank |
| 06:09.25 | Hjalte | orionshock: Yeah, I noticed. It's a big help. Now I don't need to update my thorns macro every instance :) |
| 06:09.39 | Xinhuan_ | ok moving an application (on a mac) while it is running is not a good idea |
| 06:09.43 | orionshock | yep that's the idea :) |
| 06:10.06 | Shefki | Xinhuan_: Interesting. |
| 06:10.22 | Xinhuan_ | apparently the parts loaded in memory continue to run |
| 06:10.26 | Xinhuan_ | but nothing else does |
| 06:10.33 | evl | yep like a deamon |
| 06:10.37 | evl | daemon* |
| 06:10.38 | Firepatch | if i have an array keyed off of player names |
| 06:10.43 | Firepatch | whats the best way to traverse that? |
| 06:10.50 | Xinhuan_ | pairs() |
| 06:10.50 | Firepatch | is there a foreach command? |
| 06:10.51 | Shefki | for k,v in pairs() |
| 06:10.52 | evl | for i in pairs() |
| 06:10.56 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:13.41 | orionshock | Firepatch, there is a foreach(t, func(k,v) ... end ) , but it's a depreciated method, [[ for k,v in pairs(t) do ... end ]] should be used |
| 06:15.59 | VonhintenHOME` | what's the proper way to throttle mass guild action API's, like promote/demote |
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| 06:19.54 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r191 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 06:19.55 | Repo | You know what's not needed any more? Special handling of soul shards. |
| 06:26.22 | Firepatch | wow |
| 06:26.30 | Firepatch | thats really impressive that you can traverse arrays so easily |
| 06:26.42 | Firepatch | i didnt expect my code to work on a first try lol |
| 06:28.28 | Zhinjio | anyone heard from zeksie? |
| 06:28.35 | Zhinjio | or know anything about zomgbuff status? |
| 06:29.33 | Joddie|wrk | Firepatch: everything in lua is really saved in tables/arrays so you got a lot of tools to manipulate them ^^ |
| 06:29.50 | Joddie|wrk | Zhinjio: Zeksie just got back after some nice donations and afaik he is working on XPerl atm |
| 06:29.57 | Zhinjio | aha |
| 06:29.58 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 06:30.05 | Zhinjio | thanks! |
| 06:30.09 | Joddie|wrk | yw |
| 06:32.40 | sbu | morning! |
| 06:33.49 | Aeyan | Mornin' |
| 06:36.23 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r536 GridLayout.lua: Fix Ticket-180 |
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| 06:39.06 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r537 / (2 files in 1 directory): Removed HealComm embedding. |
| 06:39.07 | Repo | Add Clique as an opt-dept. |
| 06:39.08 | Repo | Thanks abuelitowow |
| 06:40.20 | Repo | 10round3dportraits: 03Daedhir 07master * v0.5 Round3DPortraits.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed a bug with clique support |
| 06:40.26 | Repo | 10round3dportraits: 03Daedhir 04v0.5 * 568c122 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.5 |
| 06:40.36 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r538 modules/StatusMana.lua: Fix UNIT_POWER/UNIT_MAXPOWER events. |
| 06:40.37 | Repo | Fix Ticket-181. Thanks roncli |
| 06:41.16 | orionshock | ... it's rather annoying that the game randomly crashes |
| 06:41.19 | orionshock | all the f'n time |
| 06:41.27 | orionshock | .. more like it locks up and never returns |
| 06:41.50 | orionshock | IMO it's got too much stream and not enough client |
| 06:42.02 | doom0r | you letting it fully load? |
| 06:42.13 | orionshock | oh yeah... |
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| 06:42.30 | orionshock | but it's the little things.. like tooltips that it has to cache that are nearly always server side |
| 06:42.37 | orionshock | IE item tooltips, buffs, |
| 06:43.01 | doom0r | ya, i had something doing lookups on zone change, was completely freezing me |
| 06:43.07 | Joddie|wrk | orionshock: or mouse over the pumpkin to summon the headless horseman and then you gett logged of or even crash to desktop |
| 06:43.42 | orionshock | this time it was the buff tt for BoK |
| 06:44.11 | orionshock | i think i may just call it till next patch... |
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| 06:45.57 | Firepatch | mission accomplished |
| 06:46.02 | Repo | 10mui: 03Xocide 07master * v0.5-13-ge825dae unitframes.lua: [+1 commit] Player and Target frames working, now to add rest,pvp,leader,role,etc icons to them. |
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| 06:46.06 | Firepatch | ive made the spammiest healing tracker ever |
| 06:46.34 | harl | hi |
| 06:46.42 | mitch0 | morgen |
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| 06:48.01 | Repo | Don't rely on a and b being in order. Also, found useful globalstrings. |
| 07:00.24 | Repo | 10querier: 03pompachomp 07master * v1.82-36-g053ba33 Querier.toc: [+1 commit] Bump toc |
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| 07:01.25 | Repo | Added suicidalkatt's Halion debuffs. Fixed issue when attempting to delete detected debuffs for a zone where none existed. |
| 07:02.15 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Greltok * r281 WotLK/Halion.lua: Fixed eol-style. |
| 07:03.00 | Firepatch | can you modify text color in blizzards default chat? |
| 07:03.16 | Firepatch | i.e individual portions of text, not altogether |
| 07:04.23 | Xinhuan | google for "wowwiki escape codes" |
| 07:05.16 | Firepatch | thanks |
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| 07:06.08 | Repo | Reimplement TALENT_LEVELS so that it fills the values when requested. Should fix reports of GetReqLevel() returning nil |
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| 07:18.18 | mitch0 | primer: were you the one yesterday with the bazooka backround setting issue? I couldn't reproduce it... (that is, it works fine on my install...) |
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| 07:21.35 | mitch0 | shefki: ping |
| 07:22.42 | mitch0 | yay, bazooka downloads are skyrocketing. I get 4 points per day now :) |
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| 07:34.39 | Slayman | so Tradeskills and usable objects in the landscape both are annoying the shit out of me now |
| 07:37.55 | Elkano | why? |
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| 07:42.56 | Slayman | the latter is killing my client and the first takes at least 30 seconds after login to be usable |
| 07:44.43 | quiescens | solution |
| 07:44.48 | quiescens | don't craft or use stuff |
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| 07:48.32 | nebula169 | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27300876552/workaround-gear-cog-icon-of-doom/ for using stuff |
| 07:49.22 | nebula169 | i haven't actually crashed from mage tables or what-not so i can't personally say that works, though :p |
| 07:49.24 | Firepatch | servers just die? |
| 07:49.28 | nebula169 | think so |
| 07:49.34 | Firepatch | figures |
| 07:49.38 | Firepatch | im making progress ;p |
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| 08:00.30 | Repo | Implement shuffler deletion and use getspellinfo on default shuffler targets. |
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| 08:08.46 | Repo | 10shufflethoseicons: 03Rabbit * r7 / (11 files in 2 directories): Add stubs for locales. |
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| 08:23.17 | Repo | 10broker-imba (experimental): 03Rabbit * r12 imba.lua: Remove debug prints in release zips. |
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| 08:37.09 | Repo | 10broker-imba (experimental): 03Rabbit * r13 / (4 files in 1 directory): Add localization support. |
| 08:40.33 | Repo | 10broker-imba (experimental): 03Rabbit * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix drycode mistakes. |
| 08:40.52 | vhaarr | still types AceLibrary("...") instead of LibStub("...") by habit |
| 08:42.56 | evl | I've gotten LibStub errors the last few days |
| 08:42.58 | evl | how I'm not sure |
| 08:45.39 | Talryn | Broker_Imba is configed to use this as the icon: Interface\\AddOns\\Broker_CMA\\icon |
| 08:46.04 | Repo | 10ldb-vengeance (experimental): 03DerSchreiner 040.1 Beta * r6 : Tagging as 0.1 Beta |
| 08:47.21 | vhaarr | Talryn: ah crap |
| 08:47.32 | vhaarr | any good suggestions for icon? |
| 08:47.42 | Talryn | Not a big deal but no icon shows for it :-) |
| 08:47.48 | Talryn | I'm not sure. |
| 08:48.55 | DerSchreiner | what is the right way to put an addon project into beta mode? |
| 08:49.02 | Talryn | Tag it as a beta |
| 08:49.16 | DerSchreiner | just "beta"? |
| 08:49.23 | mitch0 | more like v1.0-beta |
| 08:50.02 | DerSchreiner | ok thx - I'm new to this business |
| 08:50.20 | Talryn | http://kb.wowace.com/projects/packaging-an-addon/ |
| 08:50.39 | Talryn | Has some info on it. Look for the Tagging Your Addon section. |
| 08:50.49 | evl | vhaarr: local addonName, addon = ...; tallBarTexture = "Interface\\AddOns\\" .. addonName .. "\\media\\HalT", |
| 08:50.59 | evl | I always do that to prevent me from shooting myself in the foot when I rename |
| 08:51.12 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 08:51.28 | DerSchreiner | @Talryn: thx |
| 08:51.36 | Talryn | No problem |
| 08:51.37 | Repo | 10grid: 03StingerSoft * r1377 Locales/GridLocale-ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 08:52.01 | DerSchreiner | that all actions on the repository show up here is a bit scary, like being in public all the time |
| 08:52.11 | Talryn | You can turn that off. |
| 08:52.17 | Joddie|wrk | watches DerSchreiner |
| 08:52.22 | Talryn | It's on by default when you create the project though. |
| 08:52.36 | DerSchreiner | good hint. |
| 08:53.50 | harl | i still see people parachuting on the streets of dalaran.. |
| 08:54.00 | evl | harl: ZE GERMANS ARE COMING |
| 08:54.27 | Megalon | START DIE PANZERS |
| 08:54.32 | vhaarr | ssshh don't mention the war |
| 08:54.56 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03StingerSoft * r158 GridStatusHotsLocale_ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 08:55.08 | evl | harl: animaton system is fucked in 4.0 |
| 08:55.10 | harl | shrugs. |
| 08:55.16 | evl | I frequently swim |
| 08:55.19 | evl | on pavements |
| 08:55.38 | krka | too much drugs then! |
| 08:55.45 | evl | Or maybe I've installed LibPhelps by mistake |
| 08:56.16 | Megalon | now if shapeshifting would automatically proc eclipse, as long as the bar is not at zero |
| 08:56.28 | Megalon | they would have managed to bring every bug from beta to live :D |
| 08:57.07 | Repo | 10broker-imba (experimental): 03Rabbit * r15 imba.lua: Change LDB icon. |
| 08:57.15 | evl | is holy power supposed to persist through death? |
| 08:57.27 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: why is broker-imba marked as experimental still when I've marked a file as Release? |
| 08:57.55 | Talryn | It doesn't look like you have according to wowace.com |
| 08:58.05 | Talryn | I only see r3 to r15 under files |
| 08:58.21 | vhaarr | yes and none are marked as Release? |
| 08:58.27 | harl | evl: i guess those kinds of hiccups when i jump while mounted are part of this.. fucked animation system as well. |
| 08:58.29 | vhaarr | 2nd column, "Release Type" |
| 08:58.32 | SunTsu | Megalon: Without the trailing "S", please, it's the same word, singular and plural |
| 08:59.02 | evl | harl: i'm kinda dissapointed, this would be okay for another mmo but not a blizzard product |
| 08:59.10 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry 04538 beta * r539 : Tagging as 538 beta |
| 08:59.17 | Talryn | vhaarr, yes that is set. I'm not sure. |
| 08:59.23 | harl | i agree.. |
| 08:59.24 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Greltok * r283 Core.lua: Check name isn't nil when adding debuff. |
| 08:59.27 | Talryn | It does say it is submitted for approval though. |
| 08:59.31 | vhaarr | oh |
| 08:59.41 | vhaarr | I didn't realise approval was needed, that's weird |
| 09:01.00 | Talryn | I think approval is needed for a new addon and to get it out of experimental if you started with that. |
| 09:04.01 | Repo | 10broker-imba (experimental): 03Rabbit * r16 imba.lua: |
| 09:04.02 | Repo | If another addon triggers a INSPECT_READY for our unit roster then make sure we don't query that unit again. |
| 09:04.03 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 09:05.09 | Megalon | SunTsu: you mean there are german words without S for SAURKRAUT? |
| 09:10.11 | SunTsu | Megalon: not that many, but yes, there are |
| 09:11.40 | Megalon | damn :< |
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| 09:12.18 | Slayman | did your german teacher not prepare you sufficiently for Oktoberfest? |
| 09:12.38 | SunTsu | Nobody is prepared for Oktoberfest |
| 09:12.54 | SunTsu | like nobody expects the spanish inquisition. |
| 09:13.20 | Slayman | except for the fellows from the ministry of FW |
| 09:14.45 | Megalon | SunTsu: FETCH THE CUSSIONS |
| 09:15.02 | Megalon | cushions :7 |
| 09:16.15 | Megalon | puts SunTsu in the comfy chair |
| 09:16.18 | Slayman | yay auctionlite does what I need it to do, goodbye auctioneer |
| 09:17.45 | SunTsu | what the heck. auctioneeraddon.com: "The monthly server costs are around $800" |
| 09:19.44 | Slayman | SunTsu: "Hello we have about 10 uniques a day, and we pay 800$ for that. Not only is our AddOn bloated but we get hosted by Rupert Murdock." |
| 09:20.43 | SunTsu | Slayman: I seriously wonder if they hired a human switch or something to carry the ethernet frames around |
| 09:21.01 | Slayman | SunTsu: a little colored midget :D |
| 09:21.31 | Slayman | that may have been racist, but it had midgets in it |
| 09:22.07 | Megalon | perhaps the midget is into colorpainting |
| 09:22.23 | Megalon | erm bodypainting :x |
| 09:22.30 | Slayman | in his spare time he does bob Ross impersonations |
| 09:22.32 | Fisker | Megalonmen |
| 09:22.34 | Slayman | ^^ |
| 09:22.43 | Megalon | Fiskerturd |
| 09:22.52 | Megalon | did you fail to watch gsl again |
| 09:23.07 | Fisker | fuck you? |
| 09:23.52 | Megalon | <[r1^noX-w0rk]> sandra's mögen blasen <r1]Boogie[> boogies auch :P |
| 09:24.03 | steevdave | SunTsu: re: spanish inquisition, how many paladins are going to have it macro'd with their new level 81 spell? |
| 09:24.32 | steevdave | i bet Fisker will |
| 09:24.38 | Slayman | if you main paladin, chances are your mentally capacity is exceeded by monthy python sketches |
| 09:24.41 | Megalon | whoops |
| 09:24.45 | Fisker | anyway Megalon i can't play Fallout: NV, WoW and watch SC2 leagues at the same time |
| 09:25.13 | Fisker | i would if it was a proper cooldown steevdave |
| 09:25.22 | SunTsu | steevdave: what's the lvl81 spell? didn't look at it yet |
| 09:25.34 | steevdave | SunTsu: Inquisition |
| 09:26.23 | Megalon | now you only rename your pala to Spain |
| 09:26.24 | Fisker | hopefully it'll spice up out CS->TV->CS-TV->.... rotation |
| 09:26.25 | Fisker | :D |
| 09:26.29 | Fisker | our* |
| 09:26.38 | SunTsu | steevdave: but, but, I said that I wanted Fisker to receive some Inquisition, but it was meant differently! |
| 09:27.04 | Megalon | are you ready Fisker |
| 09:27.09 | Megalon | for the next games today |
| 09:27.28 | Megalon | or are you gonna camp out in your faggo..fallout game |
| 09:27.44 | Fisker | i'm workin... at work |
| 09:28.35 | SunTsu | I recently started another DK, on horde side this time, and I hardly remembered how fun deathgrip is. I still have the urge to yell "Come here, bub!" while using it |
| 09:29.32 | Megalon | h4x0r it Fisker, do it |
| 09:29.50 | Slayman | SunTsu: the correct phrase (the ONLY correct phrase) is "GET OVER HERE!" |
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| 09:31.05 | SunTsu | Slayman: nah, given the helmet form a little Wolverine reference is appropriate |
| 09:31.42 | Slayman | SunTsu: As I said before, there can be no phrase besides Scorpions. |
| 09:32.21 | Megalon | DK needs a skill where the leave the screen on onesid and come flying in from the other |
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| 09:34.21 | steevdave | that would be awesome |
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| 09:44.19 | Slayman | There should be a Yellow Set of armor for DKs |
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| 09:46.26 | SunTsu | yeah, with blue triangles at the side ;) |
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| 09:51.29 | Slayman | so gathermate2 data does not contain old old-world nodes?!?! |
| 09:51.48 | Slayman | no wait it does :D |
| 09:52.42 | Slayman | hey anyone of you has Mining and herbalism? I can't work copper mining nodes due to "Requires Mining" which is stupid |
| 09:53.09 | SunTsu | Er, why does searching for GM2 only find GM for the hint of using GM2? |
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| 10:00.03 | SunTsu | I like how armory classes changed in the german client: "Mail" has been "Schwere Rüstung" since forever, now it's "Kette" - what the heck |
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| 10:02.56 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r673 view.lua: typo fix Ticket-96. Strange it passed the svn hook. |
| 10:02.56 | Killmore | whats the 13mo patch ? |
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| 10:13.29 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r646 RaidWatch_BWD (2 files in 1 directory): #RaidWatch_BWD: |
| 10:13.29 | Repo | - Added the rest of the warnings and timer for Omnitron Defense System. |
| 10:14.52 | Slayman | SunTsu: srsly? Man everyday I'm happy to not be playing the german client |
| 10:18.08 | SunTsu | Slayman: I really keep thinking of changing to the english client, but I already have issues when talking to people on my realm, becaue I have a hard time remembering german skill and spell names, if I switched I wouldn't know a single one anymore |
| 10:19.01 | Slayman | SunTsu: it's just a training issue, I stopped caring about if they understand what I mean when referencing to skills and places. |
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| 10:21.28 | Repo | 10wtetrinet: 03slaren * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Update for 4.0.1 |
| 10:22.55 | SunTsu | Slayman: yeah, but I like to help people in my guild, or buddies, and that won't work when they don't even understand what I'm talking about |
| 10:23.35 | Slayman | SunTsu: believe it or not so do I, in those cases Wowhead is my friend, find the english thing and switch wowhead to german :D |
| 10:26.07 | Repo | 10wtetrinet: 03slaren 04r27-beta * r28 : Tagging as r27-beta |
| 10:30.11 | SunTsu | Slayman: well, I think you made me switch |
| 10:30.59 | Slayman | SunTsu: I better did since the english client is just as buggy but "Thunder Bluff" does not cause physical pain, in contrast to "Donnerfels" |
| 10:31.37 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2906 / (3 files in 3 directories): engineering update |
| 10:32.19 | SunTsu | Slayman: Don't even make me think of "Anvilmar" being called "Ambossar" |
| 10:32.39 | Slayman | how'd they call Auberdine? |
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| 10:34.32 | Slayman | no wait: Mark'Gar >> Marrow'Gar I loled :D |
| 10:34.32 | Slayman | but srsly though on the achievements it got really ridiculous, "Get to the Choppa!" > "Auf die Piste!" I mean how does your psychotherapist deal with you after this one? |
| 10:35.34 | SunTsu | Slayman: yeah, unfortunately I tripped over that Mark'Gar thing the other day |
| 10:35.45 | Slayman | I remember :D |
| 10:35.56 | Slayman | just call him BoneStorm! |
| 10:37.40 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r380 TradeskillIdData.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 10:37.41 | Repo | Update recipes for patch 4.0.1 |
| 10:37.42 | Repo | - Biggest impact was on jewelcrafting and inscription, |
| 10:37.43 | Repo | but there are other professions with monir changes |
| 10:37.44 | Repo | as well. |
| 10:38.26 | Slayman | @describe tradeskill-info |
| 10:38.27 | Repo | Slayman: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tradeskill-info/. TradeskillInfo. Complete Tradeskill Info |
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| 10:43.21 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r157 / (52 files in 12 directories): Merge thelibrarian's changes to mainline. |
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| 10:50.43 | Slayman | I don't need to level Lockpicking anymore? how AWESOME is that! |
| 10:51.35 | Megalon | lockpicks Slayman's chastity belt |
| 10:52.22 | Slayman | "Your Skills is not high enough!" |
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| 10:54.20 | Megalon | time to get the angle grinder |
| 10:54.21 | sylvanaar_ipad | Yay it's FedEx waiting Tim again! |
| 10:54.37 | Megalon | you ordered another ipad so you can multitask? |
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| 10:55.11 | sylvanaar_ipad | Dude I have 4.2 on here |
| 10:55.14 | SunTsu | er, maybe I said that before, but I surely need to say that again: "What the heck?!" - There currently is no english speech pack for download, because packs compatible to 4.01. are yet to come |
| 10:55.23 | sylvanaar_ipad | I'm multitasking |
| 10:56.06 | Repo | 10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren * r31 GridStatusPriestAoe.lua: |
| 10:56.07 | Repo | - Fixed a bug where the CoH status could remain active after changing an option that should disable it |
| 10:57.41 | Repo | 10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren 04v0.94 * r32 : Tagging as v0.94 |
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| 11:02.19 | Repo | 10mui: 03Xocide 07master * v0.5-14-g0c1e123 unitframes.lua: [+1 commit] Target of target frame added |
| 11:05.02 | Slayman | SunTsu: do yourself a favor download the full enGB client |
| 11:05.21 | Slayman | as that will spare you of german videos |
| 11:09.01 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r381 TradeskillIdData.lua: Remove crafted ammo and bags |
| 11:09.02 | Repo | - Engineering recipes for ammo are no longer available |
| 11:09.02 | Repo | - Leatherworking recipes for ammo bags and quiver are |
| 11:09.03 | Repo | no longer available. |
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| 11:17.49 | evl | BTW do any spells require reagents abymore? |
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| 11:19.36 | Wobin | levitate still requires a feather |
| 11:20.19 | Wobin | Rebirth still requires a seed |
| 11:21.30 | Wobin | but the raidwide buffs have been rolled back into the single target ones |
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| 11:23.43 | Repo | 10wtetrinet: 03slaren * r29 wTetriNET.toc: - .toc update |
| 11:30.08 | SunTsu | Yay. "Total download remaining 10.4GB" EnGB Client ftw ;) |
| 11:30.53 | evl | l2100mbit |
| 11:31.00 | Hjalte | Do you have to pay to watch the tournaments at Blizzcon? |
| 11:31.50 | ccKep | 13:16:47) evl: BTW do any spells require reagents abymore? <<< mages portals / teleports iirc |
| 11:32.15 | evl | Hjalte: Let me help you rephrase that while answering it: "Do you have to pay to watch anything at Blizzon?" |
| 11:32.15 | evl | Yes. |
| 11:32.51 | Hjalte | evl: Sure? Did you have to pay last year as well? |
| 11:32.57 | evl | Yes |
| 11:33.13 | evl | It's a bit expanded now, if you pay you get to view everything, multiple streams and you get it VOD as well |
| 11:35.37 | Hjalte | Not sure if I should pay. It's right after Fallout NV. Darn it! |
| 11:37.04 | Hjalte | Uh. Found this on their website: Please note that limited standard-definition coverage of the opening ceremony and tournaments will be available online for free. |
| 11:37.13 | Hjalte | Seems you don't have to pay to watch tournaments. |
| 11:39.00 | Hjalte | evl: ^ |
| 11:41.24 | Adirelle|work | secure header and templates question time : which OnLoad script(s) is/are called when a frame inherits from several templates ? |
| 11:41.31 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r647 RaidWatch_BWD (7 files in 1 directory): #RaidWatch_BWD: |
| 11:41.32 | Repo | - Fixed CIDs for Omnitron Defense System |
| 11:41.33 | Repo | - Added warnings and timer for Chimaeron. |
| 11:42.32 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r648 RaidWatch_Core/Common.lua: #RaidWatch_Core: |
| 11:42.33 | Repo | - Added Utils:GetRole(unit) |
| 11:42.39 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r91 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove libs from svn:ignore property |
| 11:44.44 | evl | Hjalte: Really? They're streaming them for free? |
| 11:44.46 | ccKep | wtf is up with UIDropdowns killing my mouse |
| 11:45.20 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r382 TradeskillIdData.lua: Removed left over engineering specialization |
| 11:45.29 | Hjalte | evl: Says so in their faq http://blizzcon.rayv.com/Pages/en/FAQ.aspx |
| 11:45.44 | Hjalte | ccKep: Killing how? |
| 11:45.54 | ccKep | mouse interaction doesnt work anymore |
| 11:46.01 | ccKep | have to reloadui then |
| 11:46.03 | Hjalte | ccKep: Yeah, I get that too. |
| 11:46.06 | ccKep | like an invisible frame across my whole UI |
| 11:46.14 | ccKep | going to check framestack next time it happens |
| 11:46.15 | evl | Hjalte: Ah didn't see that :) |
| 11:46.28 | ccKep | looks like its related to UIDropDowns for me |
| 11:46.31 | ccKep | atleast thats what I suspect |
| 11:46.35 | Hjalte | Like right after leaving a party. |
| 11:46.51 | Hjalte | Where you have to right click and select leave party |
| 11:47.00 | Hjalte | evl: Hopefully the quality is decent |
| 11:47.38 | Hjalte | I got my realID notification popping up in the middle of my screen. What can I do to move it? |
| 11:47.45 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r383 TradeskillInfo.lua: Fixed Profession scanning |
| 11:47.46 | Repo | - Removed specialization scanning. The specializations are |
| 11:47.47 | Repo | no longer available; |
| 11:47.49 | Repo | - Replaced profession scanning code to use the new Profession API. |
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| 11:52.13 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik 07cataclysm * r2907 TableRegister/loottables.lua: - small loottables.lua update |
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| 11:55.27 | nev-mobile | Morning |
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| 12:00.23 | Slayman | Great now the questtracker is broken there is alway sth |
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| 12:06.58 | Repo | 10libgrouptalents-1-0: 03Zeksie * r59 LibGroupTalents-1.0.lua: |
| 12:06.59 | Repo | Fix Glyphs (because of new return parameter in GetGlyphSocketInfo). |
| 12:07.47 | nev-mobile | Zeksie lives, eh |
| 12:07.53 | mitch0 | what's the last event fired after login /reload |
| 12:08.55 | nev-mobile | PEW is pretty late, but it fires in other situations as well |
| 12:09.05 | evl | I can't get GetItemCount("Mana Sapphire" false, true) working in 4.0, it returns 0 charges even when the gem is glowing like a Chernobyl baby |
| 12:09.17 | nev-mobile | Player_alive is late too, but doesnt fire on reload, just login |
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| 12:09.50 | nev-mobile | Tried with item id instead evl? |
| 12:10.01 | evl | No has there been a change... in the matrix?! |
| 12:10.30 | nev-mobile | Try it, some functions are acting up a bit |
| 12:10.45 | evl | I noticed, GetItemIcon also fails until you're been in the game for a bit |
| 12:11.04 | nev-mobile | Best working seems to be the "item:<id>" form |
| 12:11.19 | evl | I just don't see the reasoning for a function in the API to return nil when the item is valid, it should fetch my shit from the server, pronto! |
| 12:12.54 | evl | nev-mobile: this is undoubtedly as side-effect of the new streaming platform |
| 12:13.54 | nev-mobile | I wouldnt say undoubtedly, but probably |
| 12:14.27 | nev-mobile | Speaking of, any news if there is a hotfix patch on US? |
| 12:14.33 | mitch0 | nev: I'd need something that fires after every addon is loaded. gah. addonloader grumble grumble |
| 12:14.34 | nev-mobile | ~wowalert |
| 12:14.34 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 12:14.53 | nev-mobile | Player login is after every addon |
| 12:15.01 | nev-mobile | Except LoD |
| 12:15.07 | mitch0 | yeah :( |
| 12:15.09 | nev-mobile | Those you will never know. :P |
| 12:15.19 | evl | nev-mobile: Sorry, my strict Sith upbringing forces me to deal exclusively in absolutes! |
| 12:15.31 | mitch0 | will OptDeps get auto enabled or some other weird magic like that? |
| 12:15.53 | nev-mobile | Shouldnt be, unless you have some addon doing it |
| 12:16.10 | nev-mobile | So, it is extended maint in US |
| 12:16.16 | mitch0 | if I have addon A and addon B, and I want to make sure addon B loads after addon A if both are enabled, is OptDepping A in B's toc a good idea? |
| 12:17.00 | evl | nev-mobile: they best start fixing, buggiest patch since vanilla |
| 12:17.01 | nev-mobile | Sure, that would work |
| 12:17.17 | nev-mobile | All your deps are loaded before your addon |
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| 12:18.14 | Adirelle|work | haste, you there ? |
| 12:18.54 | nev-mobile | There have been other rather buggy patches. But shrug, it doesnt matter right now. Rather have the bugs now, and be bug free on 7th of december |
| 12:19.54 | evl | True |
| 12:20.06 | evl | Nothing like being a paying beta-tester, like I've been for Adobe the last 10 years |
| 12:22.30 | SunTsu | nev-mobile: with patches over 5GB it would be a major miracle not to have bugs in it |
| 12:22.58 | nev-mobile | Size matters? I mean, its just new assets |
| 12:23.28 | SunTsu | nev-mobile: Sure, the smaller the patch, the less root for bugs |
| 12:23.33 | nev-mobile | I would rather go by the insane amount of class, system and rendering changes |
| 12:23.36 | SunTsu | room even |
| 12:23.39 | evl | They would have to completely redo the loading system too |
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| 12:31.33 | Adirelle|work | nev-mobile, do you know if the OnLoad script from inherited blizzard template couldn't be called ? I have the feeling SecureGroupHeader_OnLoad isn't called on headers created by oUF |
| 12:31.38 | Adirelle|work | (the events are registered) |
| 12:32.28 | nev-mobile | A frame only has one onload, if you inherit a template, and provide a new onload, only yours gets called |
| 12:32.47 | nev-mobile | Same for all other scripts |
| 12:33.38 | nev-mobile | Hahaha haste fails |
| 12:34.19 | SunTsu | reforge it |
| 12:34.35 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r384 / (2 files in 2 directories): Bump version to 2.0.0 for the upcoming release |
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| 12:35.33 | nev-mobile | Haste did the same error as grid with clique integration, so lol. :) |
| 12:36.50 | nev-mobile | Which might just cause the issue you're seeing |
| 12:36.55 | nev-mobile | Do you run clique? |
| 12:37.05 | nev-mobile | If yes, disable it and see again. :d |
| 12:39.01 | ccKep | hm, looks like pitbull is causing my UIDropdown issue |
| 12:42.09 | ccKep | actually looks like its some pitbull <-> clique weirdness |
| 12:42.37 | nev-mobile | Its all cliques fault, i knew it! |
| 12:42.42 | Slayman | applying Poisons shifts the entire Buffbar 1 row down? Why? stoopid! |
| 12:45.57 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r92 / (7 files in 4 directories): |
| 12:45.58 | Repo | Adding LibDataBroker to libs to support debug only test code. |
| 12:46.48 | Adirelle|work | nev-mobile, I don't run clique but I think I'm seeing the same buff |
| 12:47.16 | nev-mobile | Buff? |
| 12:47.23 | Adirelle|work | bug |
| 12:47.27 | Adirelle|work | (not enough sleep) |
| 12:47.33 | Adirelle|work | e.g. calling SecureGroupHeader_OnLoad manually on the header fixes it |
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| 12:47.52 | Adirelle|work | I was wondering why the groups weren't updated... |
| 12:49.06 | nev-mobile | Oh |
| 12:49.09 | Adirelle|work | BTW I don't exactly see where the bug is lying |
| 12:49.10 | nev-mobile | Its not conditional |
| 12:49.26 | nev-mobile | Line 650 |
| 12:49.32 | nev-mobile | Ouf.lua |
| 12:49.50 | nev-mobile | Remove the silly concat at the end of the lone |
| 12:49.50 | nev-mobile | Line* |
| 12:49.50 | Adirelle|work | the template stuff ? |
| 12:49.55 | nev-mobile | Yea |
| 12:50.02 | nev-mobile | Remove the clickcast thing |
| 12:50.07 | nev-mobile | It doesnt belong there |
| 12:50.25 | nev-mobile | Should fix your issue, i guess |
| 12:50.35 | Adirelle|work | I'll tell you |
| 12:50.56 | arkanes | isn't there some switch you can flip that'll show detailed taint errors? |
| 12:51.17 | nev-mobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.20 | Adirelle|work | BTW I checked the three base templates, only one have an OnLoad script |
| 12:51.21 | arkanes | thanks |
| 12:51.32 | nev-mobile | Very detailed ^ |
| 12:51.56 | nev-mobile | The clickcast thing surely has one |
| 12:52.06 | nev-mobile | Inherited from the others its based on |
| 12:52.27 | nev-mobile | Anyhow |
| 12:52.32 | nev-mobile | ~lart haste |
| 12:52.32 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after haste's head |
| 12:55.13 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1136 / (6 files in 1 directory): - Realtime window is now resizable again. |
| 12:55.16 | Adirelle|work | I have the feeling oUF_ClickCastUnitTemplate should bu used by unit frames, not header |
| 12:55.26 | nev-mobile | Indeed |
| 12:56.23 | Adirelle|work | ~whalelart haste |
| 12:56.28 | Adirelle|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.31 | Adirelle|work | ~lart haste |
| 12:56.31 | purl | hauls haste up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
| 12:57.00 | haste | spamming me won't help Adirelle|work |
| 12:57.00 | Adirelle|work | I'm looking to fix this bug for days |
| 12:57.15 | Stanzilla | nev-mobile Gnarfoz http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/105-Tonnen-Marihuana-gefunden-article1741711.html |
| 12:57.31 | haste | but thank you for the messages of my failure which I'm not sure what is |
| 12:57.36 | arkanes | beta login down :( |
| 12:57.42 | nev-mobile | I wouldve noticed it, but i replaced my ouf with suf |
| 12:58.22 | arkanes | nev-mobile: when are you going to commit your changes to mainline anyway |
| 12:58.42 | nev-mobile | Haste: the clickcast template doesnt go on the header, it belongs on the units, iow the template attribute |
| 12:59.06 | haste | lies, that makes no sense at all D: |
| 12:59.11 | nev-mobile | Arkanes: it is already? |
| 12:59.26 | haste | this is what happens when you have too much to do I guess :V |
| 12:59.28 | arkanes | hmm it wasn't showing the other day |
| 12:59.33 | arkanes | good enough for me |
| 12:59.49 | nev-mobile | Pushed out a release version yesterday |
| 12:59.52 | haste | care to create an issue ? |
| 12:59.53 | Adirelle|work | haste, you're probably right, I think the "Unit" in "oUF_ClickCastUnitTemplate" is there to warn anyone about applying to units ! |
| 12:59.54 | arkanes | ah |
| 12:59.56 | Adirelle|work | :p |
| 12:59.58 | nev-mobile | But had always for a few days |
| 13:00.10 | nev-mobile | Alphas* |
| 13:00.25 | haste | I don't read when I don't have time too :P |
| 13:00.34 | haste | I just test and see if it works, then I'm pleased if it does |
| 13:00.39 | vhaarr | nev-mobile: can you unmark http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker-imba/ as experimental? |
| 13:00.46 | nev-mobile | But it doesnt work |
| 13:00.49 | haste | especially when I have a ton of stuff to do |
| 13:00.50 | nev-mobile | :D |
| 13:00.51 | haste | but it did! |
| 13:00.57 | Adirelle|work | not really |
| 13:01.07 | haste | it casted what I bound to the mouse :P |
| 13:01.15 | Adirelle|work | it is block by the registerstatedriver bug |
| 13:01.24 | Adirelle|work | ah, yes, it worked for that |
| 13:01.44 | nev-mobile | That template is actually for the key bindings, not mouse bindings |
| 13:01.52 | Adirelle|work | but prevented the headers to properly update unless you use the visibility field, which causes the header to be updated every 2 seconds anyway |
| 13:01.56 | haste | yeah, I didn't know that |
| 13:02.12 | haste | they actually update 5 times a second Adirelle|work |
| 13:02.14 | haste | on every frame |
| 13:02.21 | Adirelle|work | ouch |
| 13:02.28 | nev-mobile | Only 5 times a second? |
| 13:02.30 | haste | due to a bug in securegroupframes.lua |
| 13:02.52 | haste | registerattributedrive just makes it show itself |
| 13:03.02 | Adirelle|work | it also change statehidden |
| 13:03.08 | Adirelle|work | the statehidden attribute |
| 13:03.20 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker-imba/. Broker_Imba. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 13:03.24 | Adirelle|work | which forces the header to update |
| 13:03.26 | haste | yeah, which is what triggers the bug in secrugroupframes.lua |
| 13:03.47 | Adirelle|work | hrm, which ? where it hides then shows all unit buttons ? |
| 13:04.10 | haste | it runs hide show, then hide on the ones left |
| 13:04.20 | haste | which is why it happens |
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| 13:04.34 | haste | it's basically show/hide-ing the frame 5 times a sec now |
| 13:04.48 | Slayman | hey is anyone of you not getting his/her Tradeskill registered by the game? my client insists I do not have mining except that I do |
| 13:05.15 | nev-mobile | Its a bug with newly learned skills |
| 13:05.19 | nev-mobile | Works with old ones |
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| 13:10.18 | vhaarr | thanks nev |
| 13:10.54 | Slayman | nev-mobile: any workaround, to-do, anything? |
| 13:12.11 | Humbedooh | you have to offer him a cookie first, Slayman |
| 13:12.16 | Humbedooh | a good cookie |
| 13:12.57 | nev-mobile | Nothing you can do |
| 13:13.09 | Slayman | Humbedooh: I already un-delayed FedEx for nev-mobile what more do I need to do? |
| 13:13.18 | Humbedooh | cookie |
| 13:14.51 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 13:17.11 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r93 .pkgmeta: |
| 13:17.12 | Repo | pkgmeta needs to explicitly omit libdatabroker if I don't want it released packages |
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| 13:19.47 | evl | Haha, just heard on the radio: "This playing in the background is the hard to find Van Cleef remix" |
| 13:19.58 | evl | I knew that pirate was the boss on the remix duty |
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| 13:26.33 | Repo | 10xperl: 03PlayerLin * r448 XPerl_Options/localization.zhTW.lua: zhTW update for old role icon option string. |
| 13:29.00 | sylvanaar | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/acp/tickets/43-light-headed/ |
| 13:29.27 | Ackis | derp |
| 13:30.14 | Ackis | http://kb.wowace.com/common-issues-faq/#w-why-arent-light-headed-carbonite-or-insert-name-of |
| 13:30.20 | Ackis | I just link people that |
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| 13:33.42 | Ackis | @project tradeskill-info |
| 13:33.44 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tradeskill-info/. TradeskillInfo. Game: WoW. wmrojer (Manager/Author), Dys (Author). Updated: 58 minutes ago. Tickets: 15/38 |
| 13:35.14 | Ackis | Parnic|Work: I saw teh e-mails |
| 13:36.12 | Dark_Elf | for some reason, curse client wasnt updating gathermate2 older version i had so was using old, so went to wowace site and downloaded newest and gathermate2 is working good today without errors, but now we need a gatherhud update since once gathermate is removed, gatherhud wont work |
| 13:36.26 | Lysithea | hrm, anyone in here know to list all folders/files in a map to a text file? |
| 13:36.41 | Lysithea | I know how to make a .txt listing all folders in a certain map |
| 13:36.44 | Lysithea | but not subfolders |
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| 13:38.10 | Ackis | EthanCentaurai: what's this about your certs being corrupted? |
| 13:38.21 | Ackis | Lysithea: what do you mean by map? |
| 13:38.28 | Lysithea | folder sorry |
| 13:38.37 | Lysithea | swenglish in my head :D |
| 13:38.51 | Ackis | would a dir /s > foo.txt work? |
| 13:38.59 | Lysithea | will test! |
| 13:40.30 | Lysithea | ah perfect |
| 13:40.50 | Lysithea | is there any handy site with all these nifty commands somewhere? my google skills failed me |
| 13:40.54 | Guest75089 | Ackis: the certificate can't be verified to a trusted aurhority |
| 13:40.57 | Lysithea | thanks anyway :) |
| 13:41.04 | Ackis | try dir /? for options Lysithea |
| 13:41.18 | Ackis | Guest75089: first time I've heard of this |
| 13:41.24 | Lysithea | doh, I tried so many different things but never ? :( |
| 13:41.29 | Ackis | do you have any special configs? |
| 13:41.32 | Humbedooh | dir /s /b > foo.txt for just the file names |
| 13:41.32 | Guest75089 | I hate using IRC at work :( |
| 13:42.00 | Guest75089 | no special settings afaik |
| 13:42.34 | Stanzilla | anyone else getting random invisible frames on the screen? |
| 13:43.33 | Ackis | @project livestock |
| 13:43.35 | Repo | Ackis: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/livestock/. Livestock. Game: WoW. Recompense (Manager/Author). Updated: 286 days ago. Tickets: 6/25 |
| 13:43.43 | Parnic|Work | stanzilla: do you mean you stop being able to click to move camera/character? |
| 13:43.51 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 13:43.59 | Humbedooh | tried /dump GetMouseFocus() ? |
| 13:44.04 | Parnic|Work | i had that happen last night and Connor1 has been complaining about it a lot lately |
| 13:44.32 | Stanzilla | I just clicked around like a mad man and it fixed itself |
| 13:44.52 | Humbedooh | personally, I blame nevcairiel! |
| 13:46.19 | *** part/#wowace Slayman (~dejhap08@asaru.net) |
| 13:47.25 | Rokiyo | hey Parnic |
| 13:48.39 | Rokiyo | i saw the patch note for icehud r686, and I tried to look at the changes try and learn from them, but I can't tell what was going wrong and what your fixes changed |
| 13:48.55 | SunTsu | Humbedooh: You're doing wrong. We already have Fisker to be guilty of everything, so blame him |
| 13:49.11 | Parnic|Work | rokiyo: gimme a sec to look up that rev |
| 13:49.15 | Humbedooh | I have my own list of people to blame :\ |
| 13:49.19 | Rokiyo | ty |
| 13:49.41 | Ackis | Ethan|Work: how long has this cert thing been around? |
| 13:49.48 | ccKep | szanilla: clique <-> pitbull issue |
| 13:49.51 | ccKep | +t |
| 13:50.00 | SunTsu | Humbedooh: but Fisker is to blame for everything, he actually _is_ guilty, no matter what |
| 13:50.01 | ccKep | happens after having a dropdown menu as far as I can tell |
| 13:50.04 | Parnic|Work | ah, I don't know why but it wasn't picking up my DK's Vengeance. I assume because GetSpellInfo returns a list of arguments |
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| 13:50.17 | Parnic|Work | so i explicitly told it to just retrieve the first return value which is the string name of the buff |
| 13:50.24 | Parnic|Work | just to be safe. may not have been necessary |
| 13:50.36 | Rokiyo | ahh fair enough |
| 13:50.53 | Rokiyo | it did occur to me that auraID wasn't getting used anywhere else anyway |
| 13:50.55 | Ethan|Work | Ackis: for a while come to think of it |
| 13:51.01 | Parnic|Work | heh |
| 13:51.11 | Ethan|Work | I'll email some screengrabs |
| 13:51.15 | Rokiyo | but I mistakenly thought you had to pass the whole table in |
| 13:51.18 | Ackis | Ethan|Work: :( I'm going to blame gnomes on your PC :D |
| 13:51.22 | Ackis | Ethan|Work: thanks |
| 13:51.25 | Parnic|Work | i also had a problem where the top text was #INF sometimes. i don't know why. i wrapped some of the math in ()'s to be explicit and it didn't pop up again |
| 13:51.32 | Parnic|Work | i don't actually know what fixed it but it stopped happening after that |
| 13:51.37 | quiescens | its always those gnomes |
| 13:52.12 | Humbedooh | #INF usually comes from dividing by zero |
| 13:52.20 | Parnic|Work | yeah but i never got 0 to come up again :) |
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| 13:52.43 | Rokiyo | hrm |
| 13:52.52 | Rokiyo | how much health do you have when you're a ghost? |
| 13:53.00 | Humbedooh | not a whole lot ;> |
| 13:53.12 | Rokiyo | more than 10? :P |
| 13:53.14 | Parnic|Work | you don't have buffs as a ghost though :P |
| 13:53.24 | Rokiyo | lol, that's a point |
| 13:53.26 | quiescens | you might |
| 13:53.36 | Humbedooh | whisp form? |
| 13:53.47 | Humbedooh | or wisp...or whatever |
| 13:53.55 | Humbedooh | and flasks! |
| 13:53.59 | Rokiyo | i've got my icehud set to hide any bars that are full (or in vengeance's case, empty) |
| 13:54.15 | Parnic|Work | me too |
| 13:54.20 | Rokiyo | i see you added code to update to force that behaviour |
| 13:54.26 | Rokiyo | but i was getting their by the alpha settings |
| 13:54.32 | Rokiyo | update()* |
| 13:54.37 | Rokiyo | there* |
| 13:54.39 | Rokiyo | wow englishfail |
| 13:54.40 | Parnic|Work | well i don't want it on screen if it's empty just because i have a target |
| 13:54.49 | Parnic|Work | i suppose i could add a config checkbox for that |
| 13:54.51 | kagaro | hrmm wonder wht Download.FamousWhy.com is |
| 13:54.51 | Rokiyo | ahh i see |
| 13:55.35 | Rokiyo | but yeah... to get top text to come out as #INF... |
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| 13:56.09 | Rokiyo | you'd need your maxHP to be 0 o.O |
| 13:56.42 | Parnic|Work | lua> print(14/nil) |
| 13:56.42 | lua_bot | Parnic|Work: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 13:56.46 | Parnic|Work | lua> print(14/0) |
| 13:56.47 | lua_bot | Parnic|Work: inf |
| 13:57.06 | quiescens | hax |
| 13:57.30 | Rokiyo | so somehow floor((self.current / self.max) * 100) is resulting in floor((something / 0) * 100) |
| 13:58.07 | Parnic|Work | lua> floor(1/5000*100) |
| 13:58.08 | lua_bot | Parnic|Work: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 13:58.12 | Parnic|Work | lua> math.floor(1/5000*100) |
| 13:58.13 | lua_bot | Parnic|Work: 0 |
| 13:58.34 | Parnic|Work | shrugs |
| 13:58.42 | Rokiyo | lua> math.floor(5000/1*100) |
| 13:58.42 | lua_bot | Rokiyo: 500000 |
| 13:58.47 | Rokiyo | lol |
| 13:58.48 | quiescens | lol |
| 13:58.53 | quiescens | good job |
| 13:58.56 | Rokiyo | lua> math.floor(5000/0*100) |
| 13:58.56 | lua_bot | Rokiyo: inf |
| 13:59.00 | Rokiyo | fine :P |
| 13:59.09 | Ethan|Work | lua> print(cake) |
| 13:59.09 | lua_bot | Ethan|Work: nil |
| 13:59.23 | Rokiyo | rofl, the cake is a lie |
| 13:59.58 | Megalon | rofl, the most underused joke on teh interwebz |
| 14:00.05 | Parnic|Work | rokiyo: do you think the behavior to not display the bar at all when you don't have vengeance should be a checkbox? |
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| 14:00.43 | Rokiyo | hrm.. |
| 14:00.50 | Rokiyo | i'm gonna go with no |
| 14:01.02 | Rokiyo | otherwise we're gonna have to much about figuring out if the player is in a tanking spec or not |
| 14:01.06 | Rokiyo | muck* |
| 14:01.19 | Ackis | Ethan|Work: I added you to the project/transfered ownership btw |
| 14:01.43 | Ethan|Work | thanks :) |
| 14:01.57 | Rokiyo | even if you let an empty bar display for tanks... you wouldn't it show up when the tank changes to their dps spec or whatever |
| 14:02.17 | Rokiyo | just seems a lot easier to stick with if it's empty, hide it |
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| 14:02.59 | Rokiyo | same as the eclipse bar... it'd be a pain if I had a moonkin spec and it didn't go away when I switched to feral spec |
| 14:06.01 | Rokiyo | in other news, to keep myself entertained and (I'm finding lua to be a lot of fun), i've started playing with a GetOptions() override... Trying to see if there's an elegant way to give the player some more choices on what text to display under the bar |
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| 14:06.41 | SunTsu | Rokiyo: figuring out tanking speccs shouldn't be hard anymore |
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| 14:14.55 | pschriner | it's fairly trivial, you might want to look at e.g. VengeanceStatus |
| 14:15.35 | Parnic|Work | the eclipse bar in icehud does the same thing |
| 14:15.53 | pschriner | the only annoying detector is the one for feral druids |
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| 14:16.34 | nevcairiel | bear = tank |
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| 14:21.02 | Megalon | cat durids is 4 fite |
| 14:21.07 | Megalon | bare durids 4 tank |
| 14:21.18 | Parnic|Work | 1 2 3 4 5 rouge rouge |
| 14:21.28 | pentium166 | bare durids don't haf many armors any more |
| 14:21.47 | ccKep | GetTalentInfo(2,11) > 0 -> tank ? |
| 14:22.54 | arkanes | why even bother with autodetection when you can just look at their role? |
| 14:23.03 | Rokiyo | gotta admit.. despite the squishiness.. i've fallen back in love with my bear spec in 4.01 |
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| 14:23.10 | Rokiyo | it's waaaay more fun to play |
| 14:23.22 | Megalon | yea, thick hide / natural reaction |
| 14:23.30 | arkanes | as a healer, bears don't feel any squishier than any other tank |
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| 14:23.37 | kagaro | arkanes: they may never set a role |
| 14:23.41 | arkanes | except for the ones with 35k buffed health |
| 14:23.47 | kagaro | default is none |
| 14:23.58 | Rokiyo | oh, sorry, no they're not squishier than other tanks, but all tanks are squisher in 4.x than they were in 3.x |
| 14:24.34 | arkanes | kagaro: in lfd you always have a role, and in a raid you can make them choose, or set them to whatever you want |
| 14:24.39 | Rokiyo | not only did everyone lose a crapload of armor, but armor got given a new scale curve for levels 81-85... a scaling curve with ICC bosses use because they're all level 83... so what armor you have left is worth even less :P |
| 14:24.58 | arkanes | we all got big munchkins worth of extra stam though |
| 14:25.04 | Rokiyo | wow i need coffee and/or sleep... my sentences are coming out very mangled |
| 14:25.05 | pentium166 | a bear in 2.4 or whatever the end of BC was had like 28000-32000 armour, i think tanks were sitting around that much at the end of icecrown |
| 14:25.10 | arkanes | I haven't done any hardmodes since the patch but it feels like it's about the same, overall |
| 14:25.18 | pentium166 | which is all i was getting at, obviously we're less squishy now than in BC |
| 14:25.23 | arkanes | removing chill of the throne helped a bunch obviously |
| 14:25.29 | Rokiyo | true |
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| 14:25.47 | Rokiyo | i think it's mostly warriors who are feeling it the most |
| 14:26.11 | Rokiyo | what with their crit blocks being slightly less reliable |
| 14:26.23 | Rokiyo | so they're seeing more unavoided & unblocked hits coming in |
| 14:26.43 | Rokiyo | which are coming in for about 30% more than they used to |
| 14:26.48 | arkanes | yeah but the 60% dr on a crit block is nutty |
| 14:27.18 | Rokiyo | yahh.. i imagine that's gonna be very sexy at 85 |
| 14:27.27 | arkanes | it doesn't really feel like spikiness is a problem with tanks anymore |
| 14:27.39 | arkanes | the thing I'd worry about is the mana sponge |
| 14:28.06 | Parnic|Work | i'm sad that priest shields are a bad thing again for tanks since it blocks vengeance |
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| 14:28.13 | Parnic|Work | they fixed that a long time ago and now it's back again |
| 14:28.16 | Rokiyo | at 85, that's definately the case... but 4.01 tanks trying raid at 80 are feeling some serious pain |
| 14:28.25 | arkanes | Parnic|Work: honestly I am unhappy with vengeance overall |
| 14:28.45 | ccKep | why's that? |
| 14:28.53 | arkanes | I like the mechanic, I just think it needs more polish. In particular, it contributes far too much damage when fully stacked |
| 14:29.09 | Rokiyo | plenty of threads on the wow forums about alganon auto-attacking 40k a hit |
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| 14:29.30 | Parnic|Work | if i run with a disc priest, then i have to fight for aggro the entire instance |
| 14:29.32 | ccKep | its not like you're going to have it stacked all the way through an encounter (atleast on most encounters) I think |
| 14:29.37 | Rokiyo | I agree arkanes... vengeance potentially doubling my attack power seems a tad extreme |
| 14:29.57 | arkanes | I can manage aggro fine with 0 vengeance, which means with it i'm doing far, far more threat than needed |
| 14:30.20 | arkanes | they might be looking to the future, because stam pools probably won't increase linearly with DPS |
| 14:30.30 | Parnic|Work | i must be doing something wrong, then :P. mage was stealing aggro like crazy in my run with my DK tank last night |
| 14:30.43 | arkanes | but I'd say, make it stack easier & faster, less subject to decay, and cut the total amount you gain from it in half |
| 14:30.51 | kagaro | Parnic: glyph fo DRW and pop it on trash issue solved |
| 14:30.54 | arkanes | Parnic|Work: mages can still be a little bursty |
| 14:31.05 | arkanes | and AOE of course is much harder than before |
| 14:31.16 | kagaro | i havent had anyone pull of of me on single target with my dk |
| 14:31.19 | Parnic|Work | kagaro: maybe that's all i was missing. i'm glyphed for it but keep forgetting to use it because of how useless it used to be |
| 14:31.26 | harl | has threat problems with all 3 of his tanks -.- |
| 14:31.31 | Rokiyo | DRW? |
| 14:31.35 | arkanes | DKs might be a bit undertuned on threat, i was easily taking aggro off my DK co-tank in vault yesterday |
| 14:31.36 | Parnic|Work | dancing rune weapon |
| 14:31.37 | kagaro | pop DRW and hit a runestrike the threat is insane |
| 14:31.39 | Rokiyo | ahh |
| 14:31.48 | arkanes | but maybe he was bad, you never know |
| 14:31.53 | Parnic|Work | i'm also sad that rune strike can't be macroed any more :P |
| 14:31.55 | kagaro | tank vs tank arkanes all depends on runestrike procs right now |
| 14:31.57 | Rokiyo | i've been coping pretty well on my druid, even in AoE situations |
| 14:32.10 | kagaro | no runestrikes other tank puls |
| 14:32.11 | arkanes | kagaro: he'd pull, and then I'd just take it away 10 seconds in |
| 14:32.16 | arkanes | kagaro: I was doing twice his DPS |
| 14:32.21 | kagaro | ohh fail |
| 14:32.32 | kagaro | i stay even with the other tanks in my raid |
| 14:32.35 | Rokiyo | sure, my aoe is on a cooldown... so if i time it badly i'm screwed... but it doesn't feel like my aoe threat output has gone down over the long run |
| 14:32.39 | arkanes | probably just him then |
| 14:32.39 | Rokiyo | it's just... burstier... |
| 14:32.43 | arkanes | you never know in vault |
| 14:32.59 | kagaro | granted i was only pushing 8k dps in icc sunday |
| 14:33.18 | arkanes | well I'm a paladin, so mines a fraction of what it was before |
| 14:33.34 | kagaro | he could have just stunk arkanes |
| 14:33.39 | Rokiyo | tank vs tank is borked cos of vengeance... the tank who's getting hit gets vengeance... and the other tank gets diddly squat |
| 14:33.41 | arkanes | I think I have enough, and I'm fine with it, it's just the most noticable nerf |
| 14:33.49 | harl | oO |
| 14:33.52 | Rokiyo | rich get richer and what not |
| 14:34.01 | kagaro | i.e. he isnt using runestrike 9might be one of those guys who macroed it into everything) |
| 14:34.03 | pentium166 | we need more hateful strikes! |
| 14:34.04 | arkanes | Rokiyo: vigilance is cool that way |
| 14:34.11 | pentium166 | or hurtful, whatever gruul did. |
| 14:34.15 | Rokiyo | bah, nerf warriors :P |
| 14:34.18 | Rokiyo | (or buff everyone else) |
| 14:34.45 | Rokiyo | speaking of which... is the vengeance gain from vigilance enough to keep you at full vengeance? |
| 14:34.53 | arkanes | shor is too much damage compared to the rest of my rotation too, touching 30k crits with full vengeance stacks |
| 14:35.00 | Rokiyo | what with it only giving you half of the damage? |
| 14:35.06 | arkanes | Rokiyo: no, but its enough to compensate for decay |
| 14:35.17 | Rokiyo | ah, cool |
| 14:38.10 | Humbedooh | hrmm |
| 14:38.12 | arkanes | also in the realm of minor polish, meteor-style AOE like holy wrath needs to not hit critters |
| 14:38.31 | Humbedooh | Downloads Total: 29 |
| 14:38.32 | arkanes | irritating for it to do a third of normal damage right when I need it because there's some roaches running around |
| 14:38.36 | Humbedooh | Pocket Gnome r4 Release 4.0.1 33 downloads |
| 14:39.03 | Humbedooh | I can has math skills? |
| 14:40.39 | Parnic|Work | Humbedooh: did you manage to make in progress in rotation bars? ;) |
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| 14:41.36 | Aikar | Parnic|Work: my hud has SBT that curves around the hud on the left and right, is that part of icehud, or is that MiksScrollingBattleText integrating nicely to the hud? |
| 14:42.06 | Aikar | id like to adjust it to move to the farthest right as i turned on the SnD bar but the SBT is between it and targetmana |
| 14:42.06 | Parnic|Work | icehud provides no scrolling text of any kind. so it sounds like a happy accident :P |
| 14:42.12 | Aikar | lol |
| 14:42.27 | arkanes | I think thats just a coincidence with the default positions of both of them |
| 14:42.32 | Rokiyo | SCT does that too, it's very nice |
| 14:42.42 | Rokiyo | another happy accident is the blizz power auras |
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| 14:42.50 | Rokiyo | they ended up sitting JUST inside my hud bars |
| 14:42.54 | Parnic|Work | yeah i keep getting people asking me how to turn those off in icehud :P |
| 14:42.56 | Rokiyo | it was meant to be |
| 14:42.59 | Rokiyo | rofl |
| 14:43.13 | dafi | maybe blizz devs also use icehud |
| 14:43.24 | Aikar | what are these power auras people keep talking about o.o (note: im not 70 just came back to game lil over month ago) |
| 14:43.30 | Aikar | im not 80* |
| 14:43.36 | Parnic|Work | dafi: unlikely but i'd be happy if they did :P |
| 14:44.01 | Slayman | Aikar class & specc ? |
| 14:44.06 | Aikar | rogue/com |
| 14:44.10 | Rokiyo | most procs in the game that you have to react to now make shiny artwork appear on screen |
| 14:44.14 | dafi | Parnic: well they say they also play the game and have guilds and such, so not that unlikely :) |
| 14:44.19 | Rokiyo | in order to go HAY PUSH YER BUTTONS |
| 14:44.31 | Aikar | oh that i saw on my mage for arc missiles |
| 14:44.36 | Rokiyo | yeah |
| 14:44.36 | Slayman | Aikar: don't know of any situationals als combt rogue |
| 14:44.39 | Parnic|Work | dafi: yeah but you'd think they would want to use the default ui and find out where it's deficient |
| 14:44.46 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r121 / (2 files in 1 directory): Support BT4 with nasty hooks. |
| 14:44.48 | Rokiyo | slice & dice has one, i think |
| 14:44.53 | Aikar | never seen one |
| 14:44.58 | Parnic|Work | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/october/powerauras2.jpg <== full list |
| 14:45.04 | Aikar | i know what your talking bout now on mage |
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| 14:45.14 | Bibi | (that's not actually a full list) |
| 14:45.22 | Parnic|Work | oh, sorry :P |
| 14:45.22 | Bibi | (but it's ok I like you) |
| 14:45.26 | Parnic|Work | <3 |
| 14:45.36 | dafi | Parnic: for work maybe, but for personal play... dunno |
| 14:45.47 | Rokiyo | i've yet to come across any auras not on that list that have specialised artwork |
| 14:46.04 | Rokiyo | eg Beserk procs for bears proc a generic bar |
| 14:46.10 | Parnic|Work | i keep forgetting to use those generic arcs are available bar textures |
| 14:46.12 | Parnic|Work | would be nice |
| 14:46.20 | Aikar | does arc missiles get some big bonus from the aura when procd i take it? |
| 14:46.30 | Rokiyo | you can't use em unless they're proc'd |
| 14:46.34 | Aikar | wtf O.o |
| 14:46.42 | Aikar | that sucks, i loved my AM in vanilla lol |
| 14:46.44 | dafi | Aikar: welcome to wow 4.0 :) |
| 14:46.54 | nevcairiel | read your class changes already :P |
| 14:46.55 | Aikar | i quit right before TBC, so much has changed :( |
| 14:47.08 | Aikar | i started over |
| 14:47.10 | Rokiyo | it has a 40% chance to proc per spell cast, so you'll be using it plenty :P |
| 14:47.14 | Aikar | so yeah didnt know bout that |
| 14:47.18 | Rokiyo | and when it procs, it's free |
| 14:47.27 | Aikar | ah thats kinda good then |
| 14:47.28 | Rokiyo | so yay, free damage and stuff |
| 14:47.31 | Rokiyo | but.... |
| 14:47.32 | Aikar | cause i know AM was a manasponge |
| 14:47.35 | Slayman | serversaved Macros are again one of the best features ever :D |
| 14:47.48 | Rokiyo | AB stacks now only affect AB |
| 14:47.52 | Rokiyo | and casting anything else clears the stack |
| 14:48.02 | Rokiyo | soooo using your AM proc resets your stack |
| 14:48.06 | Aikar | AB? my mage only 19 and havent played much |
| 14:48.15 | Rokiyo | arcane blast |
| 14:48.18 | dafi | hum, is it just me or they removed dungeon finders gear requirement for the icc5 heroics |
| 14:48.20 | Aikar | so not refreshed on abbrevs lol |
| 14:48.31 | SunTsu | dafi: they did |
| 14:48.38 | Rokiyo | every time you cast it, you gain a stacking buff that increases the damage & mana cost of your next AB |
| 14:48.39 | dafi | yay for that \o/ |
| 14:48.40 | Rokiyo | stacks 4 times |
| 14:48.52 | Aikar | ah |
| 14:48.55 | SunTsu | I was at HoR with my seriously undergeared rogue |
| 14:49.50 | Rokiyo | how did it survive all the aoe? :s |
| 14:49.52 | SunTsu | on that note: why the *beeep* did they change ghost flights to be slow as hell? |
| 14:50.00 | dafi | well at 79 I was doing 2k-3k dps so I doubt anyone can complain much all things considered :) |
| 14:51.41 | arkanes | SunTsu: bug |
| 14:51.48 | arkanes | SunTsu: i thought it was fixed now actually |
| 14:52.04 | SunTsu | We had two dumb fucks as tank, one always let one mob run past him and attack the healer. The first one I could make changing his mind by using trick of the trade, the second one killed the healer. Repeatedly |
| 14:52.27 | SunTsu | the next one even was better. "You take lots of damage" "I know, I'm not uncrittable" |
| 14:52.37 | arkanes | what |
| 14:52.48 | SunTsu | arkanes: exactly |
| 14:52.49 | quiescens | hor is a fair bit of damage regardless |
| 14:53.05 | dafi | SunTsu: oh the joys of pugs |
| 14:53.15 | nevcairiel | wait |
| 14:53.22 | nevcairiel | you can't even be crittable as a tank anymore |
| 14:53.29 | nevcairiel | unless you failed to get the talent |
| 14:53.32 | nevcairiel | which is like, super fail |
| 14:53.45 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: you are getting the point ;) |
| 14:53.57 | arkanes | I could see it for a blood DK |
| 14:54.11 | arkanes | becuase there's a lot of stuff in their tree and they might miss it |
| 14:54.19 | nevcairiel | super fail, still |
| 14:54.25 | arkanes | or a cat druid pretending to be a bear for fast queues, I see those alot |
| 14:54.25 | nevcairiel | thats the first talent any tank has to get :P |
| 14:54.48 | nevcairiel | short of the icc5 mans, you really dont need any tank anyway |
| 14:55.39 | Rokiyo | for the record, until recently there was a bug with the pally anti-crit talent where rank 3 was giving the same effect as rank 1... so tankadins were getting crit for a bit there :P |
| 14:55.48 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: no, everything else is quite doable with 5 dps and somebody who can throw some small heals now and then |
| 14:55.49 | Rokiyo | GC reported it fixed yesterdayish |
| 14:55.56 | arkanes | nah we were still uncrittable |
| 14:56.01 | arkanes | it wasn't giving our daze protection |
| 14:56.34 | Rokiyo | oh alright |
| 14:56.44 | SunTsu | but HoR really needs a tank who knows what he is doing especially if you stay at the entrance |
| 14:57.05 | Moonwitch | Nev, do you play US or EU? |
| 14:57.10 | dafi | and bam, afected by the coggwill of doom for the very first time |
| 14:57.14 | nevcairiel | EU |
| 14:57.29 | arkanes | dafi: pumpkin? |
| 14:57.30 | Slayman | ok with the new skill/talents and stat revamp I must admit, lvl Rogue has gone from "Ah hell no f* that!" to "Take that lvl 34 1,6k Evis crit you bad monster" |
| 14:57.41 | dafi | ToC lances |
| 14:57.45 | Rokiyo | I find HoR is more about having intelligence DPS who LoS with you and use their interupts & stuns |
| 14:58.05 | Moonwitch | on antonidas? |
| 14:58.06 | quiescens | we did hor standing in the middle once |
| 14:58.11 | quiescens | that was funny |
| 14:58.14 | nevcairiel | Moonwitch: yea |
| 14:58.21 | quiescens | but probably not something to recommend |
| 14:58.32 | Moonwitch | I thought you played a tank too |
| 14:58.36 | thelibrarian | Lowbies got buffed a lot, I think. Tried out my level 37 enhance shaman last night. Completely ridiculous. He's 42 now, lol. |
| 14:58.43 | nevcairiel | i do, my warrior |
| 14:58.44 | Moonwitch | (was going to look up your talents :P) |
| 14:58.52 | Moonwitch | ah thought feral tank |
| 14:58.57 | Moonwitch | my bad :) |
| 14:58.58 | nevcairiel | only occasionally |
| 14:59.02 | nevcairiel | and i only have 2 talent specs |
| 14:59.04 | Rokiyo | my level 19 mage was getting 1-shot ambushed by level 15 rogues in WSG last night |
| 14:59.14 | quiescens | grats |
| 14:59.25 | Rokiyo | there were something like 8 rogues on the other team |
| 14:59.34 | Rokiyo | the other 2 were hunters |
| 14:59.55 | arkanes | rogues up through at least the early 30s can one shot mobs with shadowstep/ambush |
| 15:00.00 | arkanes | mages are no contest, I'm afraid |
| 15:00.11 | Rokiyo | yep, learned that the hard way, lol |
| 15:00.32 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.5-beta-2 * r122 : Tagging as v1.5-beta-2 |
| 15:00.34 | SunTsu | Rokiyo: LoS when doing it at the entrance? |
| 15:00.52 | Rokiyo | derp... that's a point |
| 15:00.56 | Moonwitch | that sounded so kinky |
| 15:01.14 | Rokiyo | but then again, you don't need to LoS if everyone is spamming their interupts |
| 15:01.29 | Rokiyo | just go stand by the hunter and everyone else comes to you |
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| 15:02.18 | SunTsu | Rokiyo: our first tank always skipped one heavy armed mob, who ran straight to the healer, which I tried to hinder from killing.. |
| 15:02.45 | Rokiyo | o.O |
| 15:03.16 | Rokiyo | ok, so that's kinda fail :P |
| 15:03.21 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03thelibrarian * r158 / (42 files in 8 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 15:03.22 | Repo | Correct repo from merging in clone from packaged file. |
| 15:03.23 | Repo | [===[@debug -> @debug@ |
| 15:03.24 | Repo | Locale files reverted back to using @localization@ instead of being expanded |
| 15:03.25 | Repo | Remove X-Curse-Packaged headers that leaked into TOC files |
| 15:03.41 | SunTsu | trick of the trade did that, and stuns, too, but not everytime |
| 15:04.09 | quiescens | not good enough |
| 15:04.10 | quiescens | ! |
| 15:04.44 | SunTsu | quiescens: yeah, I'm fully ashamed |
| 15:04.45 | Rokiyo | well, see that's what I'm trying to get at... in my opinion that fight gave you a opportunity to make a big difference |
| 15:04.53 | Rokiyo | yes your tank was utter fail, and that killed it |
| 15:05.23 | quiescens | so you should be! |
| 15:05.31 | Rokiyo | but with a competent tank, you as a dps get to make far more of an impact on that fight by using your utility than in most other fights in 5man wotlk |
| 15:06.00 | Rokiyo | just about every other 5man encounter goes "round em up & aoe" |
| 15:06.00 | Torhal | Humbedooh: The download counters on Curse/WoWAce are separate |
| 15:06.03 | SunTsu | Rokiyo: if I was geared better it might have worked anyway |
| 15:06.25 | Rokiyo | in every other encounter, using your utility just means you do less dps and the mobs die slower :P |
| 15:06.34 | Humbedooh | Torhal: which explains what? :p |
| 15:07.39 | quiescens | don't underestimate the value of just exploding things so quickly that they don't get to do much |
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| 15:08.51 | Humbedooh | also...what download counter on wowace? ;o |
| 15:08.59 | Torhal | "Downloads Total: 29" -- "Pocket Gnome r4 Release 4.0.1 33 downloads" -- "I can has math skills?" |
| 15:09.14 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Ah, thought you were comparing |
| 15:09.18 | SunTsu | it's one thing I really like grid for. if there's a red dot at somebody who isn't the tank: "you're doing it wrong!" |
| 15:09.28 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Go to an individual file on your project. There's a counter on the right panel |
| 15:09.41 | nevcairiel | You can get aggro indicators in other UFs :p |
| 15:10.09 | Parnic|Work | torhal: there is? http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/files/8713-1-7-0-9/ |
| 15:10.15 | Humbedooh | I don't see any counters |
| 15:10.23 | nevcairiel | Downloads |
| 15:10.23 | nevcairiel | 557 |
| 15:10.24 | Ackis | someone submitted an addon that instead of printing hello world, it prints tits. |
| 15:10.25 | Humbedooh | Torhal must be speciul :( |
| 15:10.28 | nevcairiel | on Parnic|Work's link ^ |
| 15:10.33 | Torhal | Oh, sonofabitch. They were supposed to make that visible to non moderators |
| 15:10.38 | Parnic|Work | nevcairiel: doesn't show to us |
| 15:10.39 | nevcairiel | Ackis: graphical tits? |
| 15:10.48 | Ackis | no nevcairiel just the german word for tits |
| 15:10.50 | ThiefMaster | does grid have an ption to disable the blizzard raid frame pullout? haven't found anything.. |
| 15:10.52 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: yes, I know, it's just lots of information taking up very little space |
| 15:11.07 | Rokiyo | I'm a big fan of threat indicators as a healer... I get ample warning about which DPS are riding the tank's threat hard, so I'm ready if they pull |
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| 15:11.51 | nevcairiel | too many indicators require too much learning |
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| 15:12.02 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Or a love on Christmas trees. |
| 15:12.03 | nevcairiel | all these colored buttons showing up all over the place! |
| 15:12.18 | quiescens | the solution is to use logical gradients |
| 15:12.43 | Rokiyo | naw, i cheat there... I use border color as my indicator for both threat & aggro |
| 15:13.00 | nevcairiel | both threat and aggro? oh really? |
| 15:13.00 | Humbedooh | Torhal: next fun thing would be to make a counter of how many times your libraries have been downloaded through other addons :p |
| 15:13.26 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Madness! |
| 15:13.37 | Humbedooh | it'd be...spaghetti-ish |
| 15:13.43 | nevcairiel | you get a rough estimate through curse points :d |
| 15:13.44 | Rokiyo | i set threat to a lower priority, and have each of the threat levels giving a color starting from yellow and progressing to orange... and aggro itself is just red |
| 15:13.57 | Repo | 10ldb-vengeance (experimental): 03DerSchreiner * r14 LDB-Vengeance.lua: changed Tank detection algorithm |
| 15:13.58 | Repo | some optimizations and bugfixes |
| 15:14.13 | nevcairiel | threat is kinda useless, they are supposed to pay attention themself |
| 15:14.15 | Rokiyo | so if they have aggro, the aggro indicator overrides the threat one |
| 15:14.37 | Rokiyo | yes, in an ideal world, DPS should never pull off the tank |
| 15:14.39 | nevcairiel | and as a tank, i use omen to yell at those warlocks getting too close |
| 15:14.53 | Rokiyo | but I've saved many a wipe by rolling with the punches :P |
| 15:15.27 | nevcairiel | paying attention to raid frames is too much as a tank, for me anyway. More time for looking a the 3d world and mob movements :D |
| 15:15.34 | Rokiyo | lol |
| 15:15.35 | Rokiyo | fair enough |
| 15:15.51 | nevcairiel | omen does the job of warning me about people getting too high on threat |
| 15:15.53 | Rokiyo | I prefer the UF border coloring as a tank too though |
| 15:16.08 | Rokiyo | omen is great for single targets |
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| 15:16.29 | Rokiyo | but the advantage of UF indicators is that they show that unit's threat vs their target |
| 15:16.30 | Rokiyo | NOT yours |
| 15:16.39 | Rokiyo | so you get to see how close they are to pulling what they are targetting |
| 15:16.48 | Rokiyo | it's great for pugging heroics when DPS don't /assist you |
| 15:17.01 | SunTsu | I recall some addon "tank warning" who told you if somebody got aggro and took damage |
| 15:17.09 | nevcairiel | i have threat on my nameplates for heroics |
| 15:17.10 | DerSchreiner | the only time I ever look at omen as a healer is when I know that a particular encounter (e.g. LK hm) might require my giving Hand of Salvation to some stupid DPS |
| 15:17.11 | nevcairiel | works quite well :) |
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| 15:17.43 | nevcairiel | the first dps is 100%, and when i fall below 120 or so, i should work on that mob :p |
| 15:17.44 | Rokiyo | I haven't tried threat on nameplates just yet |
| 15:18.10 | DerSchreiner | otherwise I've come to love LDB-Threat, both as tank and dps |
| 15:18.35 | Rokiyo | speaking of nameplates though... Plate Buffs is awesome >.< |
| 15:18.52 | Repo | 10gridclicksets: 03warbaby * r13 GridClickSets.lua: |
| 15:18.53 | Repo | - fix a bug that click on grid button will sometimes call out others drop down menu. |
| 15:19.12 | Rokiyo | displaying buff & debuff icons on the nameplate... genius |
| 15:19.29 | Rokiyo | especially since it makes REALLY big icons for stuff like breakable CC |
| 15:19.40 | Rokiyo | it's a big giant HAY STOP TARGETTING ME |
| 15:20.36 | Rokiyo | between aloft & plate buffs... i've managed to get my nameplates looking identical to my focus & targettarget frames (supplied by Pitbull4) |
| 15:20.47 | thelibrarian | Rokiyo: that only works for mobs that someone in the raid is targeting? |
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| 15:21.51 | SunTsu | 2GB to go for the enGB client |
| 15:21.58 | Rokiyo | well, it always works on mobs that someone in the raid is targetting, but it also sometimes works in other circumstances |
| 15:22.10 | arkanes | it should be able to work always, if it binds by guid |
| 15:22.18 | arkanes | tidyplates has the same feature |
| 15:22.20 | Rokiyo | yeah, it does |
| 15:22.27 | thelibrarian | but I didn't think you could get buff info for any arbitrary guid, only a unitid |
| 15:22.29 | Rokiyo | so mousing over mobs gets it work |
| 15:22.38 | thelibrarian | including mouseover, yes |
| 15:22.42 | arkanes | thelibrarian: you can't, but you don't need to |
| 15:22.55 | arkanes | thelibrarian: just watch for the aura events |
| 15:23.00 | quiescens | presumably it can just get them once and then watch events |
| 15:23.04 | Rokiyo | it gets the initial state for a unit from a mouseover/etc, and then watches for changes in the combat log |
| 15:23.05 | thelibrarian | oh yeah, good point |
| 15:23.09 | thelibrarian | now that the combat log includes GUID |
| 15:23.36 | quiescens | kind of like all the timer bar thingies used to do |
| 15:23.38 | Rokiyo | you can also set it to display a ? icon for mobs that it hasnt gathered an initial state for |
| 15:23.43 | Rokiyo | so that you know to mouseover them |
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| 15:49.32 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:49.40 | quiescens | someone turned yssaril into an android |
| 15:49.51 | Fisker | android lol |
| 15:50.34 | sztanpet | can it moo |
| 15:50.48 | Yssaril_android | moooo |
| 15:51.00 | sztanpet | woo \o/ |
| 15:51.04 | quiescens | \o/ |
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| 16:19.33 | ccKep | why's pitbull changing my mousebindings when I right click on someone :( |
| 16:21.17 | ccKep | this is driving me nuts |
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| 16:24.47 | Stanzilla | ccKep: it's not :p |
| 16:24.55 | SunTsu | ccKep: I use pb4, too, and it does not change anything |
| 16:25.27 | ccKep | its some pb4<->clique thingie |
| 16:25.39 | SunTsu | I use clique, too |
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| 16:25.49 | ccKep | what versions are you using? |
| 16:26.10 | Repo | 10elkbuffbars: 03Elkano * r153 ElkBuffBars.toc: version push |
| 16:26.45 | ccKep | pitbull4 v4.0.0-beta14-1-g4982237 & clique v40000-1.2.7-9-gbase199 (both latest alpha) |
| 16:27.21 | SunTsu | Clique: v40000-1.1.0 PB4: current git version |
| 16:27.25 | ccKep | and because we all know this is going to come up: I'm not complaining about alpha bugs, I'm merely trying to find this issue |
| 16:27.59 | ccKep | shouldnt update your clique then, cause its going to kill you :P |
| 16:28.16 | ckknight | sharpens his knives |
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| 16:28.50 | nevcairiel | takes the knives and guts the pitbull |
| 16:29.23 | ccKep | whenever I right click on a pb4 frame using clique, the menu opens just fine but BUTTON1 gets bound to "CLICK PitBull4_Frames_player:1" (making me unable to move my camera / click anything in the UI) |
| 16:29.44 | ccKep | have to left-click on the same frame again to fix it then |
| 16:29.44 | SunTsu | ccKep: Then just don't ;) |
| 16:29.51 | nevcairiel | does it stop happening without clique? |
| 16:29.58 | ccKep | yeah |
| 16:29.58 | SunTsu | Things can be so very easy sometimes ;) |
| 16:30.02 | ccKep | clique issue |
| 16:30.05 | Megalon | it's a feature, so you can appreciate the awesomeness of pb4 even more |
| 16:30.08 | nevcairiel | blame jnwhiteh then =) |
| 16:30.26 | Megalon | without accidental camera movement to interfer |
| 16:30.29 | nevcairiel | or maybe PB4 is doing something wrong with clique integration |
| 16:30.30 | Megalon | with the experience |
| 16:30.32 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 16:30.35 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: how is that my fault? |
| 16:30.49 | ccKep | dont know which one causes it, but I know their interaction is wrong ^.^ |
| 16:30.49 | Stanzilla | I have that problem, too |
| 16:30.53 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: do you have any more information on this? |
| 16:30.55 | Stanzilla | always thought I get invisible frames :D |
| 16:31.11 | ccKep | jnwhiteh: well, I have the following (versions of pb4 and clique up top) |
| 16:31.21 | ccKep | -> /print GetBindingAction("BUTTON1", true) |
| 16:31.27 | Parnic|Work | Humbedooh: did you manage to make in progress in rotation bars? ;) |
| 16:31.35 | ccKep | before right clicking the frame its set to: "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE" |
| 16:31.44 | jnwhiteh | How in the hell is that binding getting set? |
| 16:31.46 | ccKep | after right clicking a pb4 frame its set to "CLICK PitBull4_Frame_player:1" |
| 16:31.53 | jnwhiteh | downloads pitbull |
| 16:32.04 | Stanzilla | Shefki to the rescue |
| 16:32.07 | ccKep | it doesnt happen with the default unit frames |
| 16:32.34 | ccKep | to fix the binding I have to left-click the same frame again, then its set back to "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE" |
| 16:33.15 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: so this is with the pb playerframe? |
| 16:33.24 | ccKep | player, target, targettarget |
| 16:33.27 | ccKep | didnt check focus |
| 16:33.28 | jnwhiteh | default clique bindset? |
| 16:33.36 | ccKep | yeah |
| 16:34.08 | ccKep | didnt change anything in grid except for adding middle mouse button to remove curse ^.^ |
| 16:34.13 | ccKep | *clique that is |
| 16:34.55 | jnwhiteh | seriously dislikes how many modules he has to enable |
| 16:35.22 | ccKep | strange thing is: |
| 16:35.27 | ccKep | I just deleted the right button setting in clique |
| 16:35.34 | ccKep | yet pb4 still opens the unit menu when right clicking on it |
| 16:35.40 | ccKep | and it still binds BUTTON1 to some strange things |
| 16:35.41 | ccKep | Oo |
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| 16:36.09 | jnwhiteh | its almost certainly the drag handler on PB4 |
| 16:36.12 | jnwhiteh | if I had to guess |
| 16:36.56 | ccKep | happens too when I delete all bindings from the clique menu |
| 16:37.16 | ccKep | (+pitbull lets me still use left-click to target myself) |
| 16:37.59 | jnwhiteh | I can use the camera |
| 16:38.08 | jnwhiteh | and click on the UI |
| 16:38.12 | ccKep | Stanzilla: you there? |
| 16:38.17 | jnwhiteh | the binding gets set like you're describing |
| 16:38.25 | jnwhiteh | but I still have the ability to use my left mouse button |
| 16:38.29 | ccKep | I just tried something and that seemed to fix it for me |
| 16:38.32 | jnwhiteh | unles Im' doing something wrong |
| 16:38.50 | ccKep | I opened the pb4 config and selected "Unlocked with snap" up top |
| 16:38.52 | ccKep | then locked it again |
| 16:38.53 | Stanzilla | ccKep: yes |
| 16:38.54 | ccKep | and now its working |
| 16:39.00 | ccKep | might wanna try the same thing for you |
| 16:39.18 | jnwhiteh | so what _were_ the steps to reproduce it? |
| 16:39.43 | ccKep | well, I think it was some config-error from an earlier verson of pb4 maybe |
| 16:39.49 | ccKep | I just updated pb4+clique a day or so ago |
| 16:39.53 | ccKep | and since then its been like that |
| 16:40.03 | ccKep | the unlocking+locking just seems to have it fixed for me |
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| 16:40.24 | ccKep | right-click on player (unit menu opens) -> try to turn camera -> didnt work (until now) |
| 16:40.26 | jnwhiteh | is the binding still set |
| 16:40.30 | ccKep | lemme check |
| 16:40.32 | jnwhiteh | while the menu is open? |
| 16:40.44 | ccKep | meh |
| 16:40.49 | ccKep | bugged out again |
| 16:40.59 | jnwhiteh | so right-click on player, then click-drag on the 3-d world? |
| 16:41.02 | jnwhiteh | with leftclick |
| 16:41.05 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r649 / (12 files in 4 directories): - drycode fixes |
| 16:41.05 | ccKep | yeah, binding gets set to "CLICK PitBull4_Frames_player:1" (if I right click on player frame) |
| 16:41.06 | Repo | - Added boss modules for the remaining bosses in BoT. |
| 16:41.10 | ccKep | no drag |
| 16:41.14 | ccKep | just right click to open the unit menu |
| 16:41.19 | jnwhiteh | yes |
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| 16:41.20 | ccKep | then just try to click ANYWHERE |
| 16:41.20 | jnwhiteh | and then what |
| 16:41.23 | jnwhiteh | how do i 'move the camera' |
| 16:41.25 | jnwhiteh | i can click anywhere =) |
| 16:41.25 | ccKep | except the unit frame you opened the menu with |
| 16:41.36 | ccKep | which pb4 version are you using? |
| 16:41.48 | jnwhiteh | latest curse alpha |
| 16:41.50 | jnwhiteh | matches what you had |
| 16:42.00 | ccKep | and clique alpha too I'd guess? |
| 16:42.15 | ccKep | I'm freaking the hell outta here :o |
| 16:42.28 | jnwhiteh | if you can reliably reproduce this |
| 16:42.30 | ccKep | sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt |
| 16:42.31 | jnwhiteh | we need to figure it out. |
| 16:42.42 | ccKep | until 5mins ago I could reproduce it with 100% success |
| 16:43.04 | ccKep | ah |
| 16:43.07 | ccKep | try this: |
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| 16:43.14 | ccKep | right click on your player frame |
| 16:43.18 | jnwhiteh | I have 100% default pitbull options, btw. |
| 16:43.20 | ccKep | with the menu still open: |
| 16:43.22 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.29 | jnwhiteh | yes, I do that, and it gives what you have |
| 16:43.31 | jnwhiteh | but mine isn't 'broken' |
| 16:43.38 | Stanzilla | mine is just sometimes broken |
| 16:43.51 | jnwhiteh | CLICK Pitbull4_Frames_player1 |
| 16:43.53 | ccKep | and your binding gets reset when you left-click anywhere? |
| 16:44.00 | jnwhiteh | yes, I can click anywhere just fine |
| 16:44.08 | Primer | mitch0: no, I don't use any addon named "bazooka" |
| 16:44.09 | jnwhiteh | you're not the only one who has had this issue |
| 16:44.09 | Xinhuan | zzz bored |
| 16:44.26 | jnwhiteh | with praid last night |
| 16:44.29 | jnwhiteh | i think my drag handler got stuck |
| 16:44.37 | jnwhiteh | and I coudln't STOP moving my camera |
| 16:44.54 | Stanzilla | that shit is just random |
| 16:45.00 | jnwhiteh | i locked praid and it was fine. |
| 16:45.06 | nevcairiel | If your BUTTON1 gets re-bound, moving the camera with left-click should no longer work |
| 16:45.07 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 16:45.09 | jnwhiteh | clique isn't doing anything weird. |
| 16:45.16 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I never re-bind BUTTON1 |
| 16:45.41 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.50 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.58 | ccKep | well, apperantly it gets bound to "CLICK PitBull4_Frames_...:1" but I can still move my camera now |
| 16:46.02 | ccKep | this is really weird |
| 16:46.07 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.11 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-2: 03Whitetooth * r2 / (10 files in 4 directories): (Message trimmed by 230 lines) |
| 16:46.16 | jnwhiteh | I mean its all really straightforward |
| 16:46.20 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: /dump Clique.version |
| 16:46.23 | jnwhiteh | what are the last two chars? |
| 16:46.25 | Repo | - Initial Commit. StatLogic for WoW 4.0. |
| 16:46.26 | Repo | - Changed: PlayerHasGlyph updated to work with 4.0 API |
| 16:46.27 | Repo | - Changed: DisplayLocale: isPercent = true, if stat is percentage, removed build in trailing "(%)" in stat name |
| 16:46.28 | Repo | - Added: DisplayLocale: StatMod stat names |
| 16:46.35 | ccKep | u mean numbers? ^.^ |
| 16:46.35 | jnwhiteh | err that won't help me, he |
| 16:46.47 | ccKep | wrote the version earlier :D |
| 16:47.08 | ccKep | like 9 out of 10 times it "bugs out" for me |
| 16:47.12 | jnwhiteh | wait |
| 16:47.15 | jnwhiteh | I just reproduced it. |
| 16:47.24 | ccKep | and I dont know whats different the other time |
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| 16:48.11 | jnwhiteh | now i'm 'bugged'. |
| 16:48.18 | jnwhiteh | its not every time but its happening sometimes. |
| 16:48.25 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: didnt say its you doing it, but its weird that you see the new binding but apparently your camera move still works |
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| 16:49.04 | Repo | 10libtiphooker-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r13 LibTipHooker-1.1.toc: - just a toc bump. |
| 16:49.09 | nevcairiel | in any case, blame Shefki for good measure |
| 16:49.13 | EthanCentaurai | ~whalenuke AlphaCentaurai |
| 16:49.13 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around AlphaCentaurai with his mind powers. |
| 16:49.17 | jnwhiteh | I am not convinced that blizzard hasn't mucked something up |
| 16:49.34 | jnwhiteh | Who had the issue with Freebgrid last night |
| 16:49.37 | jnwhiteh | was that Wobin? |
| 16:49.41 | nevcairiel | But why rebind button1 |
| 16:49.43 | nevcairiel | thats just madness |
| 16:49.57 | EthanCentaurai | madness? this is sparta! |
| 16:50.08 | jnwhiteh | I dont think anyone does |
| 16:50.14 | jnwhiteh | its not being done in this case |
| 16:50.15 | Knaledge | Is there an iterative platform for Ace or LUA that automates interaction (for the purpose of debugging)? Something like DevSuite by TechExcel? |
| 16:50.23 | Xinhuan | libstatlogic-1-2: Whitetooth * r2 / (10 files in 4 directories): (Message trimmed by 230 lines) |
| 16:50.26 | Xinhuan | orly? |
| 16:50.28 | jnwhiteh | Knaledge: Lua not LUA |
| 16:50.29 | jnwhiteh | and no. |
| 16:50.31 | Xinhuan | a 230 line commit message? |
| 16:50.51 | Whitetooth | yes, like 80 hours of work :( |
| 16:51.02 | Xinhuan | >.< |
| 16:51.17 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: I reloaded and have the same issue now |
| 16:51.17 | EthanCentaurai | wow, now that's dedication |
| 16:51.18 | Xinhuan | @project libstatlogic-1-2 |
| 16:51.20 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libstatlogic-1-2/. LibStatLogic-1.2. Game: WoW. Whitetooth (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 minutes ago |
| 16:51.27 | Xinhuan | gotta read the epicness |
| 16:51.32 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: have you been able to reproduce this with any other uf? |
| 16:51.38 | ccKep | jnwhiteh: its gonna eat your brain :( |
| 16:51.44 | ccKep | not yet |
| 16:51.45 | Knaledge | HEy Xinhuan - what addons are you responsible for these days? |
| 16:51.54 | Xinhuan | err same as always |
| 16:52.00 | Knaledge | I believe I just saw your name come up in another addon unexpectedly |
| 16:52.01 | Xinhuan | no new addons in 2 years |
| 16:52.08 | Knaledge | hrm ok, possibly misread it |
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| 16:52.23 | ccKep | I was happy enough I found out how to "fix" it without reloading my entire UI :P |
| 16:52.28 | AlphaCentaurai | EthanCentaurai: get the hell out of my username |
| 16:52.28 | Xinhuan | hmm the commit message is mainly talent changes |
| 16:53.03 | Knaledge | General question: I've lost the ability to type /rl and /gm and /reloadui (etc.) - was there an addon (of high popularity/use) that did that? |
| 16:53.07 | Xinhuan | Whitetooth, hope you didn't forget Wizardry or something |
| 16:53.13 | Whitetooth | talent, buff, passives, glyphs, gems, had to go through all of them |
| 16:53.21 | Whitetooth | Wizardry is there |
| 16:53.40 | Xinhuan | can't find that word in the commit |
| 16:53.40 | Xinhuan | so wasn't sure |
| 16:53.40 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: I have no effing clique what is going on. |
| 16:54.00 | ccKep | its happign every time for you now? |
| 16:54.01 | Whitetooth | yeah, missed a few |
| 16:54.04 | EthanCentaurai | s/clique/clue/ ? |
| 16:54.08 | Whitetooth | in the change log |
| 16:54.19 | Xinhuan | i think its a sign clad is really annoyed |
| 16:54.34 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:54.54 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: if you blacklist the pb4 playerframe, does it continue to do it? |
| 16:55.23 | jnwhiteh | because it was fine blacklisted, when I unblacklisted it it went right back to doing it. |
| 16:55.23 | ccKep | checking |
| 16:55.36 | Xinhuan | i have 3 hours to kill |
| 16:55.40 | Xinhuan | hmmmm |
| 16:55.43 | Megalon | fap! |
| 16:55.56 | Megalon | and sleep the other 2h58m |
| 16:56.27 | ccKep | no |
| 16:56.35 | ccKep | but BUTTON1 doesnt get re-bound then neither |
| 16:56.47 | ccKep | to this "CLICK PitBull4_Frames_player:1" stuff |
| 16:56.51 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: wait, when its blacklisted, button1 isn't rebound? |
| 16:56.57 | ccKep | doesnt seem like it |
| 16:57.07 | ccKep | stays CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE |
| 16:57.18 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if its the OnEnter/OnLeave shit |
| 16:57.22 | jnwhiteh | I dont know how that secure handler works. |
| 16:57.54 | jnwhiteh | interesting |
| 16:57.59 | jnwhiteh | the escape key breaks as well |
| 16:58.10 | jnwhiteh | in some way. |
| 16:58.29 | nevcairiel | i had my escape key breaking as well last week. clearing target still worked, but the main menu didnt come up |
| 16:58.44 | nevcairiel | but that happend before 4.0 too sometimes |
| 16:59.53 | quiescens | blame blizzard |
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| 17:01.36 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r288 / (6 files in 1 directory): - Core updated to LibStatLogic-1.2 |
| 17:03.01 | Repo | 10ratingbuster-alwaysbuffed: 03Whitetooth * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Now uses LibStatLogic-1.2 |
| 17:04.54 | ccKep | if it helps any: it started happening when upgrading pb4+clique yesterday (or the day before) |
| 17:05.23 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't unless we can find a specific version where it STOPS working so we can diff them =) |
| 17:05.30 | nevcairiel | Whitetooth: do you want error reports yet? :) |
| 17:06.07 | ccKep | jnwhiteh: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/files/8730-v4-0-0-beta14/ mentions something about clique at the bottom |
| 17:06.20 | Whitetooth | well, I still need to update the Display code, unless its a loading error :p |
| 17:06.34 | nevcairiel | not loading, no, but something inside statlogic, apparently |
| 17:06.51 | Whitetooth | sure then |
| 17:06.56 | nevcairiel | LibStatLogic-1.2-2:9217: attempt to index local 'statModInfo' (a nil value) |
| 17:07.10 | Repo | 10gridstatusaurasext: 03Julith * r24 / (4 files in 1 directory): GridStatusAurasExt: added "ignore pets" option |
| 17:07.20 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: the BUTTON2 binding is overridden too |
| 17:07.30 | jnwhiteh | when this happens. |
| 17:07.33 | jnwhiteh | so you can't use that either. |
| 17:07.34 | ccKep | maybe the whole binding set changes? |
| 17:07.39 | nevcairiel | Whitetooth: full log; http://paste.wowace.com/2648/ |
| 17:07.49 | nevcairiel | might as well be the display code you're talking about |
| 17:08.54 | Whitetooth | ok, gonna log on and check |
| 17:09.01 | Repo | 10grid-status-hostile-unit: 03Julith * r53 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridStatusHostileUnit: - update for grid with Ace3 |
| 17:09.57 | durcyn | gah, battle.net login popover looks terrible during maintenance |
| 17:10.15 | Whitetooth | servers still down, at least beta is up :D |
| 17:10.25 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith * r53 / (5 files in 1 directory): GridStatusShield: - code clean up |
| 17:10.27 | nevcairiel | i was hoping beta had the new patch already |
| 17:10.40 | durcyn | who QAs this shit, other than me, for fuck sake |
| 17:10.43 | Megalon | Whitetooth: you didn't rework the config did you? |
| 17:10.51 | Megalon | druid still has options for talents which are gone |
| 17:10.58 | Megalon | Lunar Guidance in particular |
| 17:11.07 | Whitetooth | nope, haven't worked on RB yet, just LSL |
| 17:11.51 | Knaledge | @durcyn: depends on their chaff margin |
| 17:12.01 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r104 / (3 files in 1 directory): GridManaBars: cleaned code up |
| 17:12.16 | Knaledge | If there is an acceptable pass rate at their given milestone or push/build, it can go public depending on the severity of issus |
| 17:12.17 | Megalon | ah, ok |
| 17:12.28 | Knaledge | Things like art are almost categorically considered "shippable" |
| 17:12.37 | Repo | 10gridtargets: 03Julith * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridTargets: clean up of code |
| 17:12.41 | ccKep | jnwhiteh: just did the same fucking thing multiple times (right click player frame, try to turn camera)... a dozen times it worked, out of sudden it failed.. maybe some other addon messing with binding sets |
| 17:12.49 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 17:12.51 | jnwhiteh | i'm using no other addons |
| 17:12.59 | jnwhiteh | I'm doing some debugging in clique righ tnow to see what I can come up with |
| 17:13.01 | ccKep | did you test some other UFs? |
| 17:13.05 | jnwhiteh | no, just pitbull |
| 17:13.06 | Slayman | CoD BlackOps (XBox) is possibly about to be leaked very soon |
| 17:13.09 | jnwhiteh | I need to keep consistent |
| 17:13.13 | jnwhiteh | if i'm gonna find it |
| 17:13.21 | ccKep | I'll just do a quick check with the default UFs |
| 17:13.23 | durcyn | Knaledge: i'm talking about something as simple as "hey, if we generate error pages for battle.net web servers on maintenance day, and we're USING a page from battle.net in this stupid lightbox popover login page, then MAYBE we should make sure it doesn't look like ass when the two happen at the same time" |
| 17:13.26 | ThiefMaster | are thre any addons which are known to cause extremely low fps in crowded areas since 4.0.1? |
| 17:14.09 | Knaledge | @Durcyn: And yet, Battle.net still works, you still get the style sheet to display, and the module props for login/auth. It works |
| 17:14.11 | Repo | 10grid-status-control-pipes: 03Julith * r67 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:14.12 | Repo | GridStatusControlPipes: added "Role guard" (and some up cleaning of code) |
| 17:14.35 | Knaledge | Its just not pretty and they are definitely prioritizing a "once a week 100% art bug" lower than you know... game breaking issues |
| 17:15.09 | nevcairiel | different teams. |
| 17:15.11 | Knaledge | It seems simple - but that work you're asking for is probably around 1-3 hours OH, art/dev, upward approval, deployment, QA, etc. |
| 17:15.13 | durcyn | Knaledge: i'd still like to meet the people responsible for testing this shit |
| 17:15.22 | durcyn | http://imgur.com/rHXzY derp |
| 17:15.31 | Knaledge | How is it derp? |
| 17:15.35 | Knaledge | I guarantee they know about it... |
| 17:15.39 | Knaledge | THey just don't give a fuck |
| 17:15.44 | Knaledge | because it's not breaking anything |
| 17:15.53 | Knaledge | And I completely agree |
| 17:16.45 | jnwhiteh | HUH |
| 17:17.18 | ccKep | (default Ufs seem to work) |
| 17:17.59 | jnwhiteh | you know whats breaking it? |
| 17:18.03 | jnwhiteh | oddly enough? |
| 17:18.05 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1137 Tracker.lua: - Fix error when an absorb buff does not provide a source. |
| 17:18.26 | jnwhiteh | oh, I lied. |
| 17:18.29 | jnwhiteh | mufaku |
| 17:18.35 | nevcairiel | you didnt say anything yet |
| 17:20.44 | quiescens | yeah, you didn't technically lie |
| 17:20.47 | quiescens | clearly |
| 17:20.58 | jnwhiteh | i lied to myself =/ |
| 17:21.11 | quiescens | ): |
| 17:22.06 | Megalon | but the worst part is, you believed it |
| 17:22.24 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r289 RatingBuster.lua: - Removed "ADD_AP_MOD_SPELL_DMG" |
| 17:23.26 | Whitetooth | nevcairiel: should be fixed now :D |
| 17:24.04 | Repo | 10ratingbuster-alwaysbuffed: 03Whitetooth * r12 RatingBuster_AlwaysBuffed.lua: - Removed "ADD_AP_MOD_SPELL_DMG" |
| 17:24.14 | kagaro | how do you turn tainlog on again? |
| 17:24.28 | Parnic|Work | . /console taintLog [1|2] |
| 17:24.40 | Parnic|Work | 1 is what you probably want. 2 is massive overkill of info |
| 17:25.04 | Parnic|Work | going from off to either 1 or 2 requires a client restart as well, iirc |
| 17:25.23 | nevcairiel | no restart needed |
| 17:25.32 | nevcairiel | and 2 isnt overkill, it just required smarts to read |
| 17:25.35 | nevcairiel | some info is only in there :( |
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| 17:28.09 | Megalon | like your bank account |
| 17:28.13 | Megalon | and fecesbuk id |
| 17:31.39 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: I think I found it. |
| 17:31.48 | jnwhiteh | tho I'm not sure why it was doing it with an empty profile, tbh. |
| 17:32.37 | ccKep | I deleted ALL bindings in clique, and it happened |
| 17:32.48 | jnwhiteh | yeah that is WEIRD |
| 17:32.58 | jnwhiteh | I'm not 100% sure its fixed |
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| 17:33.01 | jnwhiteh | but I did find a bug |
| 17:33.22 | jnwhiteh | and I no longer get the weird binding change |
| 17:33.34 | ccKep | commit, I'm going to check it out too then :D |
| 17:34.15 | ccKep | (and Stanzilla might aswell, if it's driving hm nuts like me) |
| 17:34.28 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/statspane_statmods/. StatsPane_StatMods. Whitetooth (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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| 17:36.25 | Stanzilla | will test it when you commit, yes |
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| 17:41.42 | ThiefMaster | ckknight: curse update crashes if TINT (teamspeak overlay, www.projecttint.com) is active |
| 17:42.28 | ckknight | um, ping Kaelten |
| 17:42.32 | Megalon | it seems like curse updater |
| 17:42.33 | ccKep | while we're at it: curse updater literally eats my cpu on startup (100% on 1 core for a couple minutes) |
| 17:42.35 | Megalon | got tinted |
| 17:44.01 | ckknight | yeah, you're talking to the wind right now |
| 17:44.16 | ckknight | ThiefMaster: what'd be best is if you file a support ticket. |
| 17:44.19 | ckknight | you too, ccKep |
| 17:45.36 | Repo | 10gridtooltip: 03Julith * r4 GridTooltip.lua: GridTooltip: removed debug message |
| 17:46.08 | Knaledge | Anyone have a good Automaton replacement and AuldLangSyne replacement? |
| 17:46.24 | Parnic|Work | my favorite is that the cc splash screen picks whatever monitor has the focused window on it but then the actual client goes to the proper monitor (the one it was last displayed on) |
| 17:46.32 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: Stanzilla: Changes pushed to curse |
| 17:46.39 | Knaledge | Specifically - denying duels, auto accepting invites from friends, and notating friends |
| 17:47.02 | Ackis | ccKep, ThiefMaster: For all Windows Curse Client issues, please visit the Curse Client Support Centre at http://clientsupport.curse.com/ |
| 17:47.08 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r123 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed the bug introduced in previous change. |
| 17:47.09 | Repo | Now accept SOLAR_ENERGY, LUNAR_ENERGY, HOLY_POWER, SOUL_SHARDS and COMBO_POINTS as keywords to display the relevant data as a player buff. |
| 17:47.10 | durcyn | friend notes have been in the base UI for what, two years now |
| 17:47.22 | Knaledge | yeah but they don't appear when you /who them |
| 17:47.31 | Knaledge | and they don't appear in-game on tooltips, etc. |
| 17:47.39 | Knaledge | Unless of course, they do |
| 17:47.49 | jnwhiteh | Now I need to come up with a comprehensive way of testing that all of this works. |
| 17:47.52 | Knaledge | Also, AuldLangSyne has the colortagging and formatting control of the friends window |
| 17:48.09 | ccKep | thanks, going to take a look later :D |
| 17:48.15 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: Stanzilla: file is packaged. |
| 17:48.21 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.5-beta-3 * r124 : Tagging as v1.5-beta-3 |
| 17:48.54 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 17:49.24 | Kaelten | indeed clientsupport.curse.com |
| 17:50.40 | Repo | 10gridtooltip: 03Julith 04v0.1 * r5 : Tagging as v0.1 |
| 17:51.39 | syrae | Is there any chance that the WoWAce GIT repos could add native support for cia-vc reporting? |
| 17:52.37 | ccKep | looks like its workign jnwhiteh :D |
| 17:53.23 | jnwhiteh | that's good. |
| 17:54.47 | nevcairiel | interesting bug with the match you had there |
| 17:55.14 | jnwhiteh | who/which? |
| 17:55.43 | nevcairiel | "BUTTON%d" vs BUTTON(%d) |
| 17:55.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 17:55.47 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith 04v1.23 * r54 : Tagging as v1.23 |
| 17:55.49 | jnwhiteh | that wasn't a bug |
| 17:55.54 | jnwhiteh | it worked fine without that |
| 17:55.56 | jnwhiteh | the bug was elsewhere |
| 17:55.59 | jnwhiteh | that was just a clenaup |
| 17:56.25 | nevcairiel | ah, i guess it just matches the whole string instead, huh |
| 17:56.34 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 17:56.37 | Repo | 10grid-status-hostile-unit: 03Julith 04v0.9 * r54 : Tagging as v0.9 |
| 17:56.46 | ThiefMaster | recount dev: could you please fix this fucking annoying feature that doubleclick on the minimap icon resets the position even though the window it's locked?! |
| 17:57.49 | Gnarfoz | ThiefMaster: he's not here. |
| 17:58.01 | Megalon | http://asset.soup.io/asset/1161/3048_4045.jpeg |
| 17:58.09 | Gnarfoz | but the bug tracker is always there for you. |
| 17:59.01 | Knaledge | lol @ two pairs of sunglasses |
| 17:59.01 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://pastey.net/141840 how did I manage to do that? :O |
| 17:59.18 | nevcairiel | i dunno, you did it |
| 17:59.39 | Gnarfoz | it's always two pairs of sunglasses, part of the meme, I guess |
| 17:59.49 | Repo | 10statspane_statmods (experimental): 03Whitetooth * r2 / (9 files in 2 directories): - Initial Commit, unpolished. |
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| 18:04.31 | durcyn | four minutes late bringing up servers, unacceptable! |
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| 18:05.39 | orionshock | i wish someone would just kill Healbot off |
| 18:05.57 | orionshock | it really has been passed around like the neighborhood bike... |
| 18:07.11 | nevcairiel | i would've said village whore, but sure |
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| 18:07.20 | Megalon | you mean everyone had a ride? |
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| 18:08.07 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: imba says 3% dmg is missing, all units are scanned and we have a retri paladin :( |
| 18:09.27 | Stanzilla | now it says scanning is not complete |
| 18:09.29 | Stanzilla | fooled me! |
| 18:09.38 | Repo | 10fu-bar_atlas-fu: 03Burnum * r50 / (3 files in 1 directory): - OK we are a go in 4.0 |
| 18:09.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:09.43 | nevcairiel | i like the addon |
| 18:09.47 | nevcairiel | its trying to fool stan |
| 18:10.54 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 18:10.59 | Stanzilla | it was because another pala joined |
| 18:11.41 | orionshock | it's kinda sad we need an addon to tell us if we have something in the raid missing.... |
| 18:11.55 | thelibrarian | is inspecting still broken? |
| 18:11.59 | orionshock | recalls the golden days when things where simpler... |
| 18:12.02 | thelibrarian | might be related Stanzilla |
| 18:12.04 | Repo | 10fu-bar_atlas-fu: 03Burnum 04v1.0.9 * r51 : Tagging as v1.0.9 |
| 18:12.06 | Megalon | yea |
| 18:12.13 | Megalon | when you just looked in the raid |
| 18:12.22 | Megalon | and knew, oh we only have 5 shamans, sorry no raid tonight |
| 18:12.41 | orionshock | when if you could heal, you did... only warriors where tanks and everyone else dps'ed |
| 18:12.41 | sbu | well when you just had 40 players, so chances were good that you had all buffs :p |
| 18:13.03 | pentium166 | no, you brought six warriors and four of them were fury |
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| 18:13.28 | thelibrarian | and paladins had to buff everyone individually, and by the time they finished all 40, the first ones they got were about to wear off |
| 18:13.28 | orionshock | more like 2 |
| 18:16.28 | orionshock | well.. there are always some mechanic changes that we should not bring back.... |
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| 18:17.11 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r125 / (6 files in 2 directories): TOC bump. |
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| 18:27.37 | Aikar | WoW is up to date? really? |
| 18:27.49 | Aikar | so much is broken and theres no patch today? :( |
| 18:29.04 | EthanCentaurai | that's Blizzard's QA for you |
| 18:32.37 | nevcairiel | They can fix alot of stuff through server side changes |
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| 18:33.28 | arkanes | and they can stream out stuff like tooltip updates now |
| 18:33.44 | wink | they could |
| 18:33.48 | wink | but they don't :P |
| 18:34.07 | nevcairiel | tooltip updates are pointless |
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| 18:34.34 | arkanes | and hey |
| 18:34.51 | arkanes | professions might be broken, but you can use shift-tab to reverse through fields at the login screen now |
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| 18:37.17 | arkanes | thelibrarian: didn't you get rid of zomg_blessings? |
| 18:37.24 | thelibrarian | yes |
| 18:37.48 | arkanes | it seems to live on in the packager |
| 18:38.20 | thelibrarian | which rev? when Zeksie merged it in he missed the pkgmeta file |
| 18:38.20 | arkanes | ah, no, it was because I had to do "install" and then switch to alpha preferred |
| 18:38.27 | thelibrarian | oh, that could be it too |
| 18:38.34 | arkanes | but curse didn't delete the old stuff |
| 18:38.48 | Parnic|Work | arkanes: wow, i've always hated that shift+tab didn't work :P |
| 18:39.07 | arkanes | Parnic|Work: priorities, am I right? |
| 18:39.15 | Parnic|Work | exactly |
| 18:48.44 | Repo | 10libtransition-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r18 LibTransition-1.0.lua: Fixed some bugs in the transition test case |
| 18:48.46 | Repo | Did some more work on the rotation animation |
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| 18:52.24 | Fisker | Parnic|Work |
| 18:52.26 | Fisker | be very quiet |
| 18:52.37 | Fisker | i'm living in the US now |
| 18:52.46 | Fisker | just moved there like 5 minutes ago |
| 18:53.26 | Humbedooh | be weeewy quiet - I'm hunting wabbits |
| 18:53.54 | Parnic|Work | nowai |
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| 18:54.03 | `-FISKER_Q\ | now i suddenly live in denmark |
| 18:54.09 | `-FISKER_Q\ | what is this, i don't even |
| 18:54.31 | Humbedooh | end your sentences properly |
| 18:55.01 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Humbedooh |
| 18:55.04 | `-FISKER_Q\ | have sex with me |
| 18:55.12 | Humbedooh | `-FISKER_Q\ |
| 18:55.12 | Humbedooh | no |
| 18:55.18 | Humbedooh | it's not friday today |
| 18:55.21 | `-FISKER_Q\ | you should |
| 18:55.33 | Humbedooh | but you could be fat |
| 18:55.35 | Humbedooh | and stuff |
| 18:56.24 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i am fat and stuff |
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| 19:01.25 | arkanes | ?? local a, b, c = ... makes b and c global? |
| 19:01.35 | nevcairiel | no |
| 19:01.38 | nevcairiel | all are local |
| 19:02.13 | arkanes | taintlog is complaning that local font, _ style = GameFontHighlight:GetFont() is tainting a global "style" |
| 19:03.08 | Parnic|Work | because 'style' was already a global var, perhaps? |
| 19:03.21 | Parnic|Work | or there's no , after _ ? :) |
| 19:03.22 | Humbedooh | shouldn't matter if there's a global by that name tho |
| 19:03.34 | Parnic|Work | that's the bug |
| 19:03.36 | arkanes | and there does exist a global "style" with the value that the local should have, too |
| 19:03.36 | Parnic|Work | missing comma |
| 19:03.41 | arkanes | ah |
| 19:03.43 | arkanes | you are correct sir |
| 19:03.52 | Parnic|Work | darn language not needing semi-colons. |
| 19:04.06 | Humbedooh | indeed |
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| 19:07.43 | thelibrarian | lol, I actually like that about it Parnic |
| 19:08.14 | Aikar | you know, im really surprised the Armory AH js is not obfuscated. its really too easy to extend it lol |
| 19:08.24 | Parnic|Work | it's generally convenient until a bug/typo like that ^ pops up |
| 19:08.38 | Aikar | http://gist.github.com/634839 |
| 19:08.51 | Parnic|Work | lol |
| 19:09.00 | Aikar | woo easy canceling |
| 19:09.25 | thelibrarian | I have to say I enjoy how simple and logical the lua syntax is. The only thing I don't like is the defaulting to global variables |
| 19:09.59 | thelibrarian | well, that and the lack of "continue" makes some control structures awkward to write |
| 19:10.26 | Parnic|Work | no 'continue' makes me angry too |
| 19:11.11 | ckknight | I miss having a type system |
| 19:11.16 | Aikar | thelibrarian: what you mean about default to global? other langs work same way. if you want local, prefix with local, if not its global :3 |
| 19:11.18 | Aikar | js is like that too |
| 19:11.41 | arkanes | most languages aren't |
| 19:11.45 | Aikar | im on both sides of the fence ckknight, i agree typing is great in most cases, but loose typing is helpful in many places too |
| 19:11.47 | arkanes | js and lua are notable exceptions |
| 19:11.53 | ckknight | yea, most languages do not default to global |
| 19:12.08 | ckknight | many modern languages don't have globals :P |
| 19:12.10 | Aikar | lol well most languages |
| 19:12.13 | Aikar | yeah i was typing that |
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| 19:12.27 | ckknight | Aikar: I like static and manifest typing with optional dynamic typing. |
| 19:12.29 | Aikar | they discourage globals lol |
| 19:12.37 | thelibrarian | most default to innermost scope, or just force you to declare variables |
| 19:12.46 | thelibrarian | which honestly wouldn't bother me |
| 19:12.47 | Aikar | i really love C++ syntax |
| 19:12.56 | Aikar | but i also love the flexability of JS |
| 19:13.04 | Aikar | JS is now becoming my favorite language |
| 19:13.05 | thelibrarian | <3 Scala |
| 19:13.13 | arkanes | what what is there to love about C++ syntax |
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| 19:13.18 | ckknight | I hate that == isn't real equality in JS |
| 19:13.24 | arkanes | the way it's undecidable? :P |
| 19:13.49 | Humbedooh | as in "1" == 1? |
| 19:14.01 | Aikar | i think it shares same as php and uses === doesnt it? |
| 19:14.12 | Humbedooh | php uses === ye |
| 19:14.15 | Aikar | and i started programming in html/php, so yeah i enjoy the C syntax lol |
| 19:14.31 | thelibrarian | the only good thing about php is all the utility functions it comes with |
| 19:14.46 | thelibrarian | oh how I miss print_r in lua |
| 19:14.47 | Parnic|Work | ...the names of which are completely random and not standardized :P |
| 19:14.56 | Aikar | php can be great, just 99% of its users are bad and gives it a bad name |
| 19:14.58 | thelibrarian | very true Parnic, hope you have a reference page open :D |
| 19:15.10 | Aikar | yeah the disorganization of the funcs in php does annoy me |
| 19:15.14 | Aikar | but php docs are so damn useful |
| 19:15.24 | Parnic|Work | i just wish they'd develop some standard and hold their developers to it. it seems like they'll let anyone commit to php without any sort of review |
| 19:15.26 | arkanes | I don't think I'd really agree that php can be "great" under any circumstances |
| 19:15.47 | arkanes | with strenuous effort by very skilled individuals it can be merely bad |
| 19:16.03 | Humbedooh | how so? |
| 19:16.12 | thelibrarian | biggest problem with php imo is that there's no standard for how to run it. so if you have a big app and the hosting provider isn't set up the right way, it could very well end up parsing your entire codebase with each page load... |
| 19:16.27 | Aikar | arkanes: https://gist.github.com/7261e0c27d87c0b2a28a |
| 19:16.29 | Humbedooh | sounds more like a biased personal opinion of taste than an actual fact |
| 19:16.45 | arkanes | Humbedooh: obviously, there's no way to objectively measure the goodness or badness of a language |
| 19:16.55 | Aikar | although i admit its not going to be ideal for real world use, and i will be switching to javascript for this project eventually |
| 19:17.05 | Aikar | im writing a web based MMO RTS game |
| 19:17.11 | Aikar | and currently the server is written in PHP |
| 19:17.15 | thelibrarian | arkanes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck |
| 19:17.18 | Aikar | its working great |
| 19:17.26 | thelibrarian | I think there's a little inherent badness there :P |
| 19:17.40 | Aikar | just when we get to the point of 200-300+ users i know its not going to hold up |
| 19:17.41 | arkanes | thelibrarian: eh I don't know |
| 19:17.55 | arkanes | Aikar: the language you write in is one of the least important factors in scaling |
| 19:18.20 | Aikar | does in this case, PHP just cant handle the throughput of IPC and TCP Socket servers lol |
| 19:18.35 | arkanes | I find that difficult to believe |
| 19:18.41 | arkanes | I mean, I hate PHP more than almost anything |
| 19:18.47 | thelibrarian | Aikar: there's plenty of bandaids that can help with that. app servers that precompile php and keep in in a memory cache. |
| 19:18.49 | arkanes | but doing network IO is not exactly hard |
| 19:18.55 | Aikar | right now with 300 NPC's (which act nearly identical in overall workload to the server as a player would) |
| 19:19.02 | arkanes | and php has, if nothing else, bindings for select |
| 19:19.06 | Aikar | its running fine |
| 19:19.11 | Aikar | yes im using select |
| 19:19.32 | arkanes | select isn't great of course |
| 19:19.43 | arkanes | but you can handle a couple thousasand connections on it with no big deal |
| 19:19.46 | Aikar | selects what makes it perform acceptably lol |
| 19:19.56 | wink | Aikar: php is scaled with many servers usually |
| 19:20.04 | Aikar | yea i can do that |
| 19:20.09 | wink | it's not meant to be an app-like monstrosity |
| 19:20.15 | wink | *app-server-like |
| 19:20.16 | Aikar | but id rather learn nodejs and get even more performance |
| 19:20.19 | arkanes | select performs very poorly as your number of connections grow, especially if most of them are idle at any given moment |
| 19:20.23 | Aikar | i know, im just prototyping/POC at this stage |
| 19:20.25 | arkanes | you want something like epoll |
| 19:20.41 | Aikar | building out the games platform |
| 19:20.54 | Aikar | NodeJS is more suited for the job |
| 19:20.57 | arkanes | if nodejs outperforms PHP on network IO, it'll be because it uses epoll |
| 19:21.01 | wink | http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1281765490.html fwiw. and http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1281174543.html |
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| 19:21.10 | arkanes | I suspect it'd be easier to write your stuff in nodejs, though |
| 19:21.12 | Aikar | its DESIGNED for high performance servers |
| 19:21.20 | arkanes | eh |
| 19:21.24 | arkanes | that doesn't mean anything |
| 19:21.28 | wink | it's broken by frequent api changes |
| 19:21.29 | wink | :P |
| 19:21.37 | Aikar | well its like what ver .2? lol |
| 19:21.44 | wink | developing for node is jsut not fun |
| 19:21.52 | wink | you come back one month later and your whole app won't run |
| 19:21.57 | arkanes | Aikar: I write high-concurreny network applications for a living |
| 19:22.03 | wink | 0.x is FINE to be unstable |
| 19:22.03 | Aikar | yeah thats one reason still in php for now |
| 19:22.12 | wink | but node is just volatile |
| 19:22.24 | arkanes | node.js doesn't have any particular edge over anything else, really |
| 19:22.57 | Aikar | well its more designed around event based programming |
| 19:23.01 | Aikar | where as php is procedural |
| 19:23.06 | arkanes | I know all about event based programming ;) |
| 19:23.20 | arkanes | what a good networking framework can do is make it easy to do the right thing |
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| 19:24.07 | CyberKiLL | hello |
| 19:24.37 | arkanes | I haven't really seen any evidence that it is actually easier for someone who doesn't already understand the issues to write scalable servers in node.js than in anything else |
| 19:24.59 | arkanes | I'm pretty much convinced that its one of those things you just can't abstract away |
| 19:25.36 | Talryn | Has anyone tried going from a 10 player raid to a 25 player raid with the new lockout system? It wasn't clear to me if that's possible. |
| 19:25.44 | Aikar | arkanes: i meant vs php |
| 19:25.46 | arkanes | thelibrarian: yes |
| 19:25.54 | Aikar | im not saying node is better than others |
| 19:26.13 | arkanes | thelibrarian: you have to have not done any heroics in the 10, and the 25 has to be at least as progressed as your 10 was |
| 19:26.18 | Aikar | i was leaning towards node though cause my 3 main langs are php js cpp |
| 19:26.30 | Aikar | and the games front end is heavy JS, so a JS backend would be nice |
| 19:26.33 | arkanes | nodes probably not terrible |
| 19:26.50 | arkanes | and using what you're used to is worth a lot of "better language" features |
| 19:27.05 | thelibrarian | Talryn: what arkanes said |
| 19:27.28 | Aikar | i had to 'hack' in event based systems to PHP |
| 19:27.38 | arkanes | Aikar: well, you were writing an event loop |
| 19:27.48 | Aikar | using a lang where its native would be nice |
| 19:27.52 | arkanes | Aikar: which is about 95% of any networking framework is, really |
| 19:28.14 | Talryn | I'm curious if you are the raid leader. Can you now clear part of ICC 10 early in the week and then later working on the rest in a 25? Sounds like it is doable. |
| 19:28.25 | Aikar | i wrote it to rely on stream_select, then used tick functions to handle interval based function execution |
| 19:28.36 | arkanes | Aikar: ick thats not what you want to do at all |
| 19:28.51 | arkanes | Aikar: but it does point out some of the issues, writing a good event loop is pretty hard |
| 19:29.13 | arkanes | node.js actually uses libevent, for example |
| 19:29.19 | arkanes | or maybe libev, I don't remember |
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| 19:34.58 | Aikar | arkanes: libev sounds familiar |
| 19:35.03 | Aikar | i think they use that |
| 19:35.27 | Aikar | but arkanes there was no other way to get high precision timing on an interval based function beyond that |
| 19:35.42 | Aikar | which is why i say PHP isnt really going to be the best bet for real world deployment |
| 19:35.47 | arkanes | Aikar: sure there is |
| 19:35.56 | arkanes | Aikar: you have to make select() wake up early |
| 19:36.14 | arkanes | the traditional way to do this is to have a pipe you use for wakeups, and write a byte to it |
| 19:37.08 | Primer | perl POE!! |
| 19:37.25 | Primer | best event programming EVAR |
| 19:37.44 | arkanes | anyway using node.js is probaby a good idea, I'm not trying to dissuade you |
| 19:37.53 | arkanes | don't think it'll make all your problems go away, though :) |
| 19:38.13 | Primer | I have perl POE scripts that I wrote at my previous gig that maintain hundreds of concurrent TCP connections, have been running for years, and the memory footprint hasn't changed |
| 19:38.22 | arkanes | hundreds! |
| 19:38.58 | arkanes | I tease, that was probably a lot back then |
| 19:39.05 | Primer | only drawback is that it's not multi-threaded |
| 19:39.28 | arkanes | no surprise, perl doesn't actually support threads |
| 19:39.30 | Primer | well, it was an internal app that provided filters for postfix |
| 19:40.05 | Primer | not filters, but some other term that escapes me |
| 19:40.35 | Primer | basically greylisting and SPF record lookups |
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| 19:41.14 | thelibrarian | at least perl is honest about it |
| 19:41.24 | thelibrarian | python claims to, and kinda sorta does, but not really |
| 19:41.30 | arkanes | thelibrarian: nah, they aren't |
| 19:41.39 | arkanes | perl has a thread api, but it works by spawning processes |
| 19:41.46 | arkanes | Python actually does have real live thread support |
| 19:41.53 | Primer | the best part was looking at the stats, seeing hundreds of concurrent tcp connections, and checking the memory footprint |
| 19:41.53 | Firepatch | hrmmm, invalid escape code error popping up |
| 19:42.09 | Primer | then doing the same thing 2 months later, and seeing the same memory footprint...which was about 22m of RSS |
| 19:42.11 | arkanes | the GIL of course is an entirely different thing |
| 19:42.22 | thelibrarian | arkanes: it supports threads, but only in library code. No 2 threads can actually execute python code at the same time because of GIL :D |
| 19:42.23 | Primer | you can't even load a jvm with 22m |
| 19:42.33 | arkanes | thelibrarian: I know all about the GIL and python, too :) |
| 19:42.49 | thelibrarian | I figured, that was for the benefit of observers to know what we're talking about :) |
| 19:43.12 | Torhal | I don't care what you say! My language is better than your language, so there! |
| 19:43.17 | thelibrarian | lol |
| 19:43.20 | Primer | supposedly they were working on thread support for POE, but it's pretty much what you've described here regarding python |
| 19:43.35 | Primer | POE == twisted, for you python people |
| 19:43.39 | arkanes | yeah the perl interpreter just doesn't really support it |
| 19:43.56 | arkanes | I think thats something they were looking at working on in perl 6 |
| 19:44.00 | thelibrarian | threads are definitely a PITA for interpreted languages in general |
| 19:44.07 | arkanes | it's the garbage collection |
| 19:44.08 | Primer | yeah |
| 19:44.25 | arkanes | perls problems went beyond that though, the perl codebase is a fantastic trainwreck of a thing, globals all over |
| 19:44.29 | harl | what was it that i wanted to test earlier.. |
| 19:44.30 | thelibrarian | hell, they're not exactly sunshine and teddy bears in compiled languages either |
| 19:44.41 | arkanes | threads aren't really a very good thing at all |
| 19:45.00 | arkanes | they're important for your operating system to have so that you can use them to build concurrency primitives that aren't horrible |
| 19:45.18 | harl | ah yeah.. i remember.. it's the nQuestLog fan update |
| 19:45.55 | thelibrarian | functional languages with all variables immutable are wonderful for concurrency, but damn if they make my head hurt trying to unravel the execution path |
| 19:46.12 | arkanes | implicit concurrency is still hard even in those |
| 19:46.32 | thelibrarian | nah, almost any loop or map operation can be done concurrently |
| 19:46.41 | arkanes | because the whole function thing is a lie, really, and there really *is* shared state there that you have to resolve |
| 19:46.43 | thelibrarian | but that only works if _everything_ is immutable |
| 19:46.47 | arkanes | conceptually, yes |
| 19:46.51 | thelibrarian | the state is on the stack |
| 19:46.55 | thelibrarian | passed from function to function |
| 19:46.57 | arkanes | but when you get down to implementing it, not so much |
| 19:47.18 | arkanes | ocaml does a pretty good job these days |
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| 19:47.30 | arkanes | but it's not exactly a trivial thing |
| 19:47.39 | thelibrarian | wow, ocaml. the only thing I know of that's actually written in ocaml is Unison |
| 19:48.09 | arkanes | ocaml is like haskell for people who actually have to solve their problems |
| 19:48.15 | thelibrarian | heh |
| 19:48.18 | arkanes | I tease a bit ;) |
| 19:48.22 | arkanes | F# is a fork of ocaml |
| 19:48.30 | arkanes | in spirit, anyway |
| 19:48.40 | thelibrarian | bah, clr garbage |
| 19:48.47 | thelibrarian | I hate the .net clr almost as much as i hate the java jvm |
| 19:48.49 | arkanes | clr is a pretty good run time |
| 19:48.58 | arkanes | spitting in the wind there, buddy |
| 19:49.01 | thelibrarian | :) |
| 19:49.05 | thelibrarian | I know |
| 19:49.06 | arkanes | virtual machines are the future |
| 19:49.13 | arkanes | the past, too, really |
| 19:49.41 | thelibrarian | actually I can't complain too much, since one of my favorite languages these days (Scala) is targeted at the JVM |
| 19:49.46 | thelibrarian | CLR too, but that branch isn't as well maintained |
| 19:49.51 | Torhal | arkanes: Don't fuck around with Skynet, man. |
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| 19:51.18 | thelibrarian | kind of the same vein as what you said -- it can do functional but also fully supports very nice procedural and OO syntax so that you can get actual work done :D |
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| 19:53.07 | Stanzilla | man, wtb 50% mortal strike back |
| 19:53.39 | thelibrarian | roll a holy pally, then you can have it, but only on yourself |
| 19:54.00 | Stanzilla | anub'arak hardmode is kinda unkillable without it |
| 19:55.32 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: Stanzilla: Things working for you so far? |
| 19:55.38 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 19:55.48 | jnwhiteh | that's really good to hear |
| 19:56.01 | jnwhiteh | one last beta I need to have tested and I'll be pushing it out in a day or two |
| 19:57.15 | ccKep | jnwhiteh: yay |
| 19:57.45 | ccKep | doing some random dungeons on my alt and so far it didn't happen again |
| 19:57.54 | jnwhiteh | just keep your eye out for _any_ issues |
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| 19:59.05 | ccKep | what did happen though: I updated clique+recount the minute you said clique is packaged, and I _seem_ to have a little longer loading screens... dont know if thats just imagination, most likely nothing interesting |
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| 19:59.47 | Mirrormn | it's not actually an issue with Clique in particular, but I noticed that oUF wouldn't work for me until I updated clique |
| 20:00.06 | Mirrormn | that actually pretty much entirely a problem for oUF, now that I think about it ^_^ |
| 20:00.19 | jnwhiteh | hehe, weird |
| 20:00.40 | jnwhiteh | I got the following message today |
| 20:00.51 | jnwhiteh | What happened to the iframes? They were great when using X-perl. |
| 20:00.58 | jnwhiteh | topic was "Iframes in Clique" |
| 20:00.59 | jnwhiteh | WTF? |
| 20:01.32 | ccKep | wutt? |
| 20:01.41 | Megalon | the iframes jnwhiteh, what happened to them? tell us |
| 20:01.49 | jnwhiteh | yeah, no fucking clue |
| 20:02.01 | thelibrarian | <iframe src="about:blank" /> |
| 20:02.15 | thelibrarian | there ya go, fixed |
| 20:02.51 | ccKep | (leveling a mage as fire spec through LFD kicks ass in the 60s) |
| 20:02.57 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03mysticalos * r83 / (2 files in 2 directories): Removed 3.3.5 code. 4.0.1+ now. |
| 20:02.59 | Repo | Added Master Poisoner to 8% spell damage table |
| 20:02.59 | Repo | Updated locals to say 8% spell damage instead of 13% |
| 20:03.11 | thelibrarian | where's the queue time like for dps on your bg ccKep? |
| 20:03.34 | thelibrarian | *what |
| 20:03.38 | ccKep | we're a group of 3, brother, friend + me |
| 20:03.42 | thelibrarian | oh nice |
| 20:03.43 | ccKep | being tank, heal and dps(me) |
| 20:03.49 | ccKep | leveled 1-60 using RAF |
| 20:03.56 | ccKep | and solely went to dungeons since levle 15 |
| 20:04.11 | thelibrarian | I still think RAFing with a class that can tank and using LFD is the absolute fastest way to level to 60 |
| 20:04.53 | ccKep | fire mage dps is through the roof when aoe pulling |
| 20:05.03 | jnwhiteh | ccKep: Stanzilla: Had any experience with vehicles/clique? |
| 20:05.12 | ccKep | nop @ jnwhiteh :( |
| 20:05.26 | jnwhiteh | I wonder what the best way to test this is. |
| 20:05.27 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 20:05.33 | Niv | the fastest way is to RAF and have a tank plvl you through SFK -> SM: Cath -> Strat -> Ramps |
| 20:05.40 | jnwhiteh | probably the vehicle daily in HF |
| 20:05.46 | ccKep | maybe the drakes in coldarra |
| 20:05.56 | ccKep | or argent tourny stuff |
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| 20:06.11 | jnwhiteh | oh vehicle might work. |
| 20:06.14 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 20:06.16 | jnwhiteh | argent tourney |
| 20:07.30 | ccKep | 3.2k dps in hellfire ramparts :D |
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| 20:07.55 | ccKep | (needless to say my tanking brother is crying) |
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| 20:20.26 | Repo | Missed a file in r158 -- re-hook ZOMGReagents.lua back up to localizations |
| 20:22.57 | starlon | I don't understand some of these bug reports. I can't reproduce most of them. O.O |
| 20:23.16 | nevcairiel | thats normal |
| 20:23.26 | starlon | heh |
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| 20:27.13 | Stanzilla | Adys: wtb fixed links in bluetracker rss :( |
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| 20:27.53 | Adys | Stanzilla: the bluetracker will be taken care of once the new mmoc template will be up, afaik |
| 20:27.54 | arkanes | jnwhiteh: you want to test using clique while you're in a vehicle, or casting spells on other players who're in vehicles? |
| 20:28.04 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 20:29.07 | Adys | Stanzilla: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/?styleid=8 if you wanna play with it |
| 20:29.18 | Adys | I'm using it and it rocks |
| 20:29.22 | Stanzilla | nice O.o |
| 20:29.34 | jnwhiteh | arkanes: no idea |
| 20:29.41 | jnwhiteh | they were giving me an addon blocked report |
| 20:29.45 | jnwhiteh | but i'm prety sure that doesn' thappen |
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| 20:32.08 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1378 Grid.toc: * TOC tweak |
| 20:34.18 | `-FISKER_Q\ | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:35.04 | Niv | mIRC eh |
| 20:35.12 | Niv | :) |
| 20:36.11 | Fisker | slaps Niv around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:36.16 | arkanes | jnwhiteh: well I was healing the abom in ICC with clique + blizzard raid frames on sunday without any trouble |
| 20:36.38 | arkanes | which is probably the only vehicle anyone cares about |
| 20:37.12 | Fisker | that's not a vehicle |
| 20:37.47 | EthanCentaurai | wishes /reloadui would pick up .toc changes... ._. |
| 20:37.53 | Firepatch | SendChatMessage(castingDruidsEfflorescence[GUID].."'s |Hspell:81269 |Htalent:81275:3 - Total: |cFF00FF00"..totalhealingdone.."|r ("..totalplayers.." players)("..avgperplayer.." avg/player)") |
| 20:37.58 | Firepatch | gives me an invalid escape argument |
| 20:38.17 | Firepatch | am i misreading the escape sequences? |
| 20:38.23 | Repo | 10totemcallsetup: 03SteveKaye * r16 TotemCallSetup.lua: Made a change that disabled the add on for non-Shamans |
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| 20:38.43 | Fisker | i disagree with fixed-witdh content Adys |
| 20:39.18 | Adys | its not so bad in this case |
| 20:40.37 | Fisker | true |
| 20:41.38 | Parnic|Work | what do you disagree on? DADT? |
| 20:41.40 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: so all good or did imba fuck up? |
| 20:43.20 | vhaarr | Firepatch: you need to put an end tag after |Hspell |
| 20:43.30 | Repo | 10totemcallsetup: 03SteveKaye * r17 TotemCallSetup.toc: Increased the version number |
| 20:43.36 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: I think it didn't find 3% dmg and replenishment but could be inspect bug, too |
| 20:43.58 | vhaarr | |Hspell:<id>|h|r|cffXXXXXX[<name>]|r|h |
| 20:44.20 | Repo | 10totemcallsetup: 03SteveKaye 041.2 * r18 : |
| 20:44.21 | Repo | The addon no longer does any work if the player is not a Shaman. |
| 20:44.31 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: indeed, okay, what happens if the inspect bug sets in is that classes are assigned their minimum abilities |
| 20:44.37 | vhaarr | like, what the class can provide no matter what spec |
| 20:45.05 | vhaarr | Firepatch: (and after the talent) |
| 20:45.41 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: but I won't do much more work on Imba now until blizz fixed the inspects I think; only if I see something myself during a raid |
| 20:45.46 | vhaarr | fixes* |
| 20:46.00 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:46.07 | Stanzilla | doesnt make much sense with that bug in place |
| 20:46.47 | Talryn | So now Grid2 is being updated too. Is the idea they will both be worked on? |
| 20:47.05 | vhaarr | if anyone is updating grid2, they missed the train |
| 20:47.09 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: do you have replenishment listed for resto druids? |
| 20:47.10 | vhaarr | and should be told |
| 20:47.25 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: yes |
| 20:47.30 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:48.18 | Talryn | If Grid is the one going forward, any chance it will have a better default setup? I think the best part of Grid2 was it seemed to have all the basics setup for you. |
| 20:48.31 | Niv | grid2 was getting updates |
| 20:48.33 | Niv | from jerry |
| 20:48.49 | Talryn | Yes, in the last couple of days it has been updated. |
| 20:49.28 | vhaarr | jerry has never really been part of the community |
| 20:49.39 | Talryn | I'm just curious because I started using Grid2, and as I said above, I liked how little I had to configure it to get something that worked while tanking or healing. |
| 20:49.47 | vhaarr | he probably didn't notice that Grid was updated |
| 20:49.48 | Talryn | Trying to figure out where to go from here. :-) |
| 20:51.07 | Niv | I prefer grid2 at this point, but it has a few nasty bugs |
| 20:51.21 | Niv | like adding an addon that augments it, hoses your config |
| 20:51.47 | Niv | that sort of sucks :) |
| 20:53.22 | harl | can anyone please tell me that this 1 guy 1 cup thing is a fake? |
| 20:54.50 | Megalon | hm? |
| 20:54.52 | harl | i feel sick. i'll go get some fresh air -.- |
| 20:55.21 | ccKep | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y9fkdU_usE (nothing disgusting, promise) |
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| 20:57.42 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r386 / (3 files in 2 directories): Tweaked options creation and loading. |
| 20:59.11 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r176 Modules/Combo.lua: -fix combo text not updating properly |
| 21:01.18 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03thelibrarian * r163 ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: Add Soul Harvest for Warlocks so my lock can be lazy :) |
| 21:01.25 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r387 TradeskillInfo.lua: Turned 15 lines of epic fail into 4 lines of awesome. |
| 21:04.13 | Repo | 10project-14817: 03texke * r31 TinyTipBasic.lua: Added guild rank. |
| 21:04.40 | Nechckn | that EthanCentaurai is just some kind of awesome... ^^ |
| 21:04.41 | oscarucb | excellent commit message lmao |
| 21:04.54 | Nechckn | I dig it. |
| 21:05.13 | EthanCentaurai | the whole mod needs cleaning up tbh >_> |
| 21:05.26 | Nechckn | I may have to go repo diving just to have my eyes melt from the flames of awesome. |
| 21:05.41 | Repo | 10realid-toons: 03Starinnia * r84 Core.lua: -actually use the new link type |
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| 21:10.30 | Firepatch | okay, so someone else mentioned that GetSpellLink() is a better way to input what i wanted |
| 21:10.33 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r388 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:10.33 | Repo | Fix a dumb typo causing the options to not load if the LoD section is not embedded inside the main addon. |
| 21:10.44 | Firepatch | then the |hSpell escape sequence |
| 21:11.01 | Firepatch | so thats not really an issue, that part works great |
| 21:11.23 | Firepatch | but when i tried to color some text being sent to SendChatCommand, the whole line never shows up in game |
| 21:12.07 | vhaarr | you need to show us code |
| 21:12.29 | Firepatch | yep just putting it back the way i had it |
| 21:12.33 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r91 JebusMail.toc: JebusMail: |
| 21:12.34 | Repo | - I don't know what I'm doing with these libraries |
| 21:12.48 | thelibrarian | oh noes, jebus is in library hell :( |
| 21:13.14 | Firepatch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.15 | Firepatch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.15 | Firepatch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.38 | vhaarr | SAY messages can't be colored |
| 21:14.05 | Firepatch | its odd that it doesn't report that as an error, but i guess its not improperly formatted otherwise |
| 21:14.18 | Firepatch | only private channels then |
| 21:14.31 | vhaarr | no, only local chatframe output can be colored |
| 21:14.54 | vhaarr | i.e. print() or ChatFrameX:AddMessage |
| 21:17.06 | Firepatch | ahhh, so you can't send formatted chat to party/say/etc |
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| 21:20.51 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r92 JebusMail.lua: JebusMail: |
| 21:20.53 | Repo | - Okay, I think I got that whole ScheduleEvent thing ironed out. |
| 21:22.48 | Repo | 10big-brother: 03oscarucb * r241 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix CC breakage reporting for 4.x (ticket #21) |
| 21:25.31 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r126 Core.lua: |
| 21:25.32 | Repo | Fixed the GetSpellInfo error. Also do not touch button border when only displaying the stack count. |
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| 21:28.45 | EthanCentaurai | I'm done for the night |
| 21:28.48 | EthanCentaurai | bed time now |
| 21:28.57 | EthanCentaurai | see you tomorrow |
| 21:31.40 | Hjalte | Is there a working addon for looking through your item cache? Sort of what Ludwig did but without the 30 second freeze. |
| 21:32.05 | thelibrarian | Hjalte: I'm not sure it's currently possible to determine what items are in your cache or not. |
| 21:33.57 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r678 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-goldspam update |
| 21:34.02 | Amadeo | Is Blizzard going to fix this gear crash, or what? |
| 21:35.25 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v6.154 * r679 : Tagging as v6.154 |
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| 21:36.57 | Hjalte | Amadeo: Which of the crashes are you refering to? :) |
| 21:38.13 | Repo | 10minimap-range: 03SteveKaye * r35 MinimapRange.toc: Updated the TOC for 4.0.1 |
| 21:38.42 | Parnic|Work | i really like the mouseover tooltip lockup in hallow's end boss fight |
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| 21:38.55 | Parnic|Work | disabling tooltips "fixed" it for me |
| 21:39.34 | Repo | 10minimap-range: 03SteveKaye 042.1.1 * r36 : Releasing 2.1.1 |
| 21:39.51 | thelibrarian | no Parnic, what's really fun are mages summoning portals all over battlegrounds to try to grief people |
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| 21:40.42 | Parnic|Work | those lock up as well? |
| 21:41.08 | thelibrarian | afaik most people who have it lock up on any "gear" |
| 21:41.09 | Repo | 10dualspec-profiles: 03profalbert 07master * v0.1.1-beta-1-gee0f835 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 21:41.10 | Repo | ee0f835: improve check for Ace2. maybe there is AceLibary but not AceAddon-2.0... |
| 21:41.11 | Repo | 4b6b9b2: bump toc to 40000 |
| 21:41.16 | thelibrarian | have been lucky enough to avoid it myself so I don't know |
| 21:41.21 | Repo | 10fubar_guildfu: 03texke * r118 FuBar_GuildFu.lua: |
| 21:41.22 | Repo | Fixed problem with opening guild window when clicking the addon. |
| 21:41.24 | Parnic|Work | i don't lock up any cogwheel except the hallow's end pumpkin |
| 21:41.29 | Parnic|Work | the instant my mouse hits it, i freeze |
| 21:41.40 | arkanes | Parnic|Work: same with me |
| 21:42.18 | thelibrarian | wonder why it's so random, I had to click the pumpkin for my group because 4/5 disconnected :( |
| 21:42.26 | Parnic|Work | yep |
| 21:42.29 | Parnic|Work | we lost 3 before someone was able to use it |
| 21:42.38 | Parnic|Work | i had to disable tooltips completely to be able to use it myself |
| 21:42.57 | thelibrarian | maybe it's because I'm running a tooltip replacement addon (Tooltip_LuaText)? |
| 21:43.11 | Parnic|Work | could be |
| 21:43.29 | thelibrarian | well, and CowTip, but I *really* need to find a replacement |
| 21:43.33 | thelibrarian | that doesn't drag in rock libs, lol |
| 21:45.51 | Repo | 10autopartybuttons: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.4-beta-37-gff0c2fb / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 21:45.52 | Repo | ff0c2fb: add raid buttons |
| 21:45.53 | Repo | 1d94927: add methods for group/raid buttons |
| 21:45.57 | Repo | 3da99f2: add raid buttons |
| 21:47.14 | profalbert | didn't cowtip kind of break with 4.0? |
| 21:47.25 | thelibrarian | seems to be working fine for me |
| 21:47.39 | thelibrarian | but I've been using the luatext module since forever, so maybe just dogtags broke |
| 21:47.51 | thelibrarian | just using cowtop for the repositioning |
| 21:47.56 | thelibrarian | and some custom font size change hacks I added |
| 21:47.59 | VonhintenHOME` | Did they seriously just buff Mages? |
| 21:47.59 | profalbert | there is a small addon for that |
| 21:48.22 | profalbert | tipsy I think |
| 21:48.27 | thelibrarian | profalbert: cool, thanks, I'll look into it. been meaning to look for a replacement just haven't taken the time |
| 21:48.38 | VonhintenHOME` | Arcane Specialization now increases damage of your Arcane spells by 25%, up from 15%. |
| 21:48.57 | VonhintenHOME` | Seriously? Mages are already spanking the shit out of my rogue's DPS |
| 21:49.00 | Stanzilla | VonhintenHOME`: that's for 85 |
| 21:49.07 | thelibrarian | VonhintenHOME`: isn't that just reverting the nerf to live? |
| 21:49.11 | thelibrarian | so they're not underpowered at 85 |
| 21:49.12 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:49.15 | Parnic|Work | thelibrarian: dogtags definitely not broken :). they were prior to 4.0's release but we tagged a 4.0 version on release day |
| 21:49.37 | profalbert | well maybe cowtip didn't pack this new version yet |
| 21:49.50 | thelibrarian | Parnic: mostly I meant CowTip's interface to dogtags. I figured the tags themselves would be fine since some unit frames use them, but maybe CowTip wasn't updated to work with the new version, etc |
| 21:49.58 | harl | feels much better again. |
| 21:50.00 | Parnic|Work | could be |
| 21:50.59 | profalbert | Cowtip would be nice if somebody would get rid of Rock and Dogtags |
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| 21:51.59 | profalbert | or separate dogtag as pitbull4 does it |
| 21:52.26 | Parnic|Work | we had the "kill dogtags" discussion yesterday :P |
| 21:52.30 | thelibrarian | that's kina what ToolTip_LuaText (formerly known as CowTip_LuaText) does, but without the other half of moving DogTags into its own module |
| 21:52.35 | thelibrarian | *kinda |
| 21:52.41 | Parnic|Work | it won't happen as long as it's the easier user interface to specifying custom text |
| 21:52.57 | Parnic|Work | so long as LuaText requires users to basically type code, it's not getting widespread adoption |
| 21:53.39 | thelibrarian | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.40 | profalbert | I'm thinking of how to solve this problem in Tooltip_Luatext. |
| 21:54.36 | Stanzilla | Mirrormn: can you make the talent specialization dropdown multiselect in WA? |
| 21:54.36 | profalbert | Maybe provide kind of a store for predefined lua-texts |
| 21:55.08 | thelibrarian | looks at profalbert |
| 21:55.13 | thelibrarian | looks at page for Tooltip_LuaText |
| 21:55.14 | thelibrarian | oh |
| 21:55.15 | thelibrarian | lol |
| 21:55.20 | Parnic|Work | luatext should also probably be promoted to its own library. that would make things infinitely easier :) |
| 21:55.31 | profalbert | well, I thougt about that |
| 21:55.46 | profalbert | but luatexts in tooltips and in unitframes have different requirements |
| 21:55.48 | Parnic|Work | though i could never switch to a new text markup library for icehud. users would have my head for breaking all of their custom dogtags |
| 21:56.11 | thelibrarian | sorry for the redundancy profalbert, didn't realize that you wrote the thing until just now :D |
| 21:56.18 | profalbert | heh |
| 21:56.24 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r127 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:56.25 | Repo | Use Blizzard built-in glow for "alternate color" (option renamed accordingly). |
| 21:57.25 | profalbert | That's the thing. I basically wrote the addon for myself. After some friends installed it, I realized I may need to think of usability. |
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| 22:00.52 | Primer | Still can't toggle "show offline members" in guild tab...GG BLIZZ! |
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| 22:01.44 | Aikar | hmm |
| 22:01.49 | Aikar | might wanna check your addons |
| 22:01.50 | Aikar | works for me |
| 22:02.20 | Primer | profalbert: I did the same thing with DirectionArrow. Now I have TENS of users! |
| 22:03.13 | thelibrarian | lol. my "for myself" addon is CharmKeys |
| 22:03.19 | Mirrormn | Stanzilla: yes |
| 22:03.23 | thelibrarian | not sure if anyone actually uses it, but that's not why I made it |
| 22:03.28 | Mirrormn | as well as auras unit select |
| 22:03.45 | orionshock | profalbert, i think alot of addons started as pet projects .... |
| 22:03.50 | leech2k | Is inspect broke for everyone else also? |
| 22:03.53 | orionshock | i know many of mine did |
| 22:03.58 | thelibrarian | leech2k: yes |
| 22:04.05 | orionshock | leech2k, inspect isn't broken, it's just really throttled now |
| 22:04.34 | leech2k | Interesting I haven't gotten it to work at all since patch. |
| 22:04.36 | vhaarr | no, orionshock |
| 22:04.39 | vhaarr | it is -broken- |
| 22:04.56 | orionshock | ? working fine for me here |
| 22:04.59 | profalbert | well, if querying to often, it blocks for 10 minutes or so |
| 22:05.00 | Aikar | i just inspected someone |
| 22:05.10 | vhaarr | you can inspect but it will randomly break |
| 22:05.14 | thelibrarian | if throttling means 0-5 successful inspects per login session, depending on the phase of the moon, then it's throttled :P |
| 22:05.19 | vhaarr | trust me, with 0 addons, cleared cache and savedvars |
| 22:05.26 | vhaarr | manual inspects can still stop working for no reason |
| 22:06.13 | vhaarr | that said, like profalbert said, /if it doesn't randomly break/, your NotifyInspect inspects will also be throttled if you do it too often |
| 22:06.29 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r128 Core.lua: Fixed C stack overflow and another minor error. |
| 22:06.57 | Talryn | I can toggle show offline guild members and inspecting either works or doesn't return anything for me. |
| 22:07.22 | leech2k | Did they change something with addon messagign also? Maybe added some "throttling" :-) |
| 22:07.49 | orionshock | thoes have always been throttled |
| 22:08.15 | thelibrarian | I thought they just DC'd you if you sent too many, hence ChatThrottleLib |
| 22:08.44 | orionshock | thelibrarian, minor difference |
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| 22:11.49 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: got any idea why my personal tank list in ora3 got cleared and i get randomly spammed with "tanknamehere is not in your party"? |
| 22:12.15 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: I would blame kagaro |
| 22:12.43 | vhaarr | kagaro: I read through your changes and there are lots of edge cases you don't account for still |
| 22:12.45 | Stanzilla | I already did :> |
| 22:12.53 | vhaarr | and what did he say? |
| 22:13.13 | Stanzilla | he could not reproduce it |
| 22:13.59 | vhaarr | ~seen mojosdojo |
| 22:14.04 | purl | mojosdojo <~mojosdojo@p4FEFE8B2.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 22h 21m 38s ago, saying: 'Connor1_: While leveling you should be just fine with healing as shadow'. |
| 22:14.56 | vhaarr | dammit I thought the cooldown module was fully updated but it's not |
| 22:14.58 | vhaarr | fixes |
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| 22:28.12 | Repo | 10archud3 (experimental): 03nyyr * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): Another try to fix a bug upon dead |
| 22:28.20 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.20a-7-gacc4cb6 Data/TriggerConditions.lua: [+1 commit] fix low mana trigger-condition |
| 22:30.11 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r129 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:30.11 | Repo | Added back class defaults, with detailed error messages about wrong spell ids. |
| 22:30.43 | kagaro | I havent gotten the tankname isnt in your party error message |
| 22:32.47 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.5-beta-4 * r130 : Tagging as v1.5-beta-4 |
| 22:33.05 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.20a-8-gda17089 Data/TriggerConditions.lua: [+1 commit] add new power-types to trigger-conditions |
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| 22:42.20 | Repo | 10ora3: 03kagaro * r454 modules/Tanks.lua: |
| 22:42.22 | Repo | Possible fix for Stans issues with 'xx not in your party' message .. granted none of the Functions we call generate the message |
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| 22:54.21 | harl|feast | i could've sworn it was WIM that'd caused me to be unable to turn my camera/view, but apparently it's something different as it's happened again now and i already returned to using Elephant+Cellular. |
| 22:55.19 | Repo | 10gridconfigurablelayouts: 03MSaint 040.2.3 beta * r66 : Tagging as 0.2.3 beta |
| 22:58.01 | Repo | 10project-5432: 03thelibrarian * r30 Libs/: Remove obsolete svn:externals: |
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| 23:12.36 | Repo | 10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren * r33 GridStatusPriestAoe.lua: - Holy Nova updated for the new mechanics |
| 23:12.37 | Repo | - Increased maximum value of the threshold settings |
| 23:12.38 | Repo | - Made a few minor code optimizations |
| 23:15.42 | Repo | 10project-5432: 03thelibrarian * r31 / (3 files in 1 directory): Remove unused spell IDs for 4.0.1 |
| 23:15.43 | Repo | Add spell IDs for black cat, rabbit, repentance, hex, bind elemental |
| 23:15.44 | Repo | Bump TOC as it seems to work okay with 4.0 |
| 23:15.57 | thelibrarian | hmm, wonder why my addon got renamed project-5432? does that happen if it doesn't get updated for a long time? |
| 23:18.42 | Repo | 10project-13443: 03KanadiaN * r59 / (26 files in 22 directories): - Bug Fix for gold pile |
| 23:18.43 | Repo | - some code tweaks |
| 23:21.29 | durcyn | if by 'long time' you mean 'three years since the oldsvn conversion', then, yes |
| 23:21.36 | thelibrarian | yes, that's exactly what I mean :) |
| 23:22.05 | thelibrarian | well, two |
| 23:23.48 | Repo | 10wtetrinet: 03slaren 04v0.9 * r30 : Tagging as v0.9 |
| 23:24.17 | Dark_Elf | @project wtetrinet |
| 23:24.18 | Repo | Dark_Elf: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wtetrinet/. wTetriNET. Game: WoW. slaren (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 hours ago |
| 23:24.41 | Dark_Elf | @description wtetrinet |
| 23:24.44 | *** join/#wowace bluspacecow (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 23:32.03 | Dark_Elf | must be shepherd |
| 23:32.55 | thelibrarian | that's the one |
| 23:33.33 | Dark_Elf | i cheated i went to wowace site lol |
| 23:33.45 | thelibrarian | it wasn't a quiz, was just curious how that worked :) |
| 23:35.36 | thelibrarian | surprisingly, it still works just fine, despite last being updated for 2.4.0 |
| 23:35.55 | bluspacecow | which addon is that ? |
| 23:36.07 | thelibrarian | missing a few spell ids for ones that have been added since then, but since it had ones for rank 1 anyway, it picked up on the new rankless ones |
| 23:36.30 | thelibrarian | shepherd -- CC watcher that gathered dust during wrath |
| 23:37.25 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v506-1-gd9fdc47 Invoker.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket #171 - Move scheduling after argument assignments because zero length timers are called immediately |
| 23:41.03 | thelibrarian | I take that back, it loads and runs fine, but detects the events slightly wrong :( |
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| 23:47.13 | Dark_Elf | hehe i will give u till december 7 to get it working, in a smart ass voice! |
| 23:47.55 | thelibrarian | pfft, won't take that long. probably just the new field they added in 3.1 or 3.2 or w/e |
| 23:49.27 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v4.0.1a * r93 : (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 23:49.29 | Repo | JebusMail: |
| 23:49.29 | Repo | - 4.0.1 compatible |
| 23:50.30 | Repo | - Now with Ace3 deliciousness |
| 23:50.30 | Repo | - You can now split the friends list |
| 23:50.58 | *** join/#wowace Sesshu (~Sesshu@ip-234-20.travedsl.de) |
| 23:52.07 | Dark_Elf | for the most part it better be 4.0.1 compatible lol since 401 is live with exception of few countries, being a dickhead again! |
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