| 00:01.05 | HazRPG | ah cool |
| 00:02.43 | HazRPG | question, at the top of my .toc I have: ## Interface: 40000 |
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| 00:02.49 | HazRPG | is that the most current? |
| 00:03.20 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 00:03.35 | HazRPG | does that just represent v.4.x.x |
| 00:03.38 | mckenziemc | that only changes with a major patch -- eg. 3.3 |
| 00:04.02 | HazRPG | cos I've seen a few that show ## Interface: 40100 |
| 00:04.03 | mckenziemc | !api GetBuildInfo |
| 00:04.03 | lua_bot | GetBuildInfo: Returns the version information about the client (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBuildInfo) |
| 00:04.30 | mckenziemc | hmm it should match one of the returns from GetBuildInfo, i'll check in game |
| 00:05.37 | mckenziemc | actually i gess it'd change any time there's a significant change to the api (since this is what the game uses to tell if your addons are out of date) |
| 00:05.42 | HazRPG | can you do calls like that in-game |
| 00:05.52 | HazRPG | I know you can do /script to run simple stuff |
| 00:06.02 | mckenziemc | but empirically i've only seen it change between the major patches |
| 00:06.21 | mckenziemc | yeah, /dump GetBuildInfo() |
| 00:06.41 | HazRPG | lol I get an error typing that ^^ |
| 00:06.51 | mckenziemc | odd |
| 00:07.20 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6-beta-2-24-ge10d7a1 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Do not forget to upgrade settings. |
| 00:07.22 | HazRPG | oh wait, didn't put caps in the right place, my bad |
| 00:07.32 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 00:07.54 | HazRPG | is there a developer addon someone to just run lua code on the fly? |
| 00:07.59 | HazRPG | somewhere* |
| 00:08.00 | mckenziemc | it also returns the client version and build number |
| 00:08.06 | mckenziemc | i use NotesUNeed |
| 00:08.39 | mckenziemc | there might be addons that are more suited for it but i got NUN for normal use and found out it could also do code, and it works for me |
| 00:09.57 | mckenziemc | you just make a normal note in its window and then click the RunScript button, it's really useful for testing stuff without having to reload the ui every time you change code |
| 00:10.20 | HazRPG | ooo, shiny |
| 00:10.28 | HazRPG | does the other stuff it comes with get in the way? |
| 00:10.41 | HazRPG | cos I'm looking on curse's screenshot here and looks cluttered |
| 00:11.35 | mckenziemc | can't modify addon files directly from it and it's cumbersome when you're dealing with a big chunk of code, but if you make a simple little addon to test things or call functions from your main addon |
| 00:12.04 | mckenziemc | it's not cluttered for me |
| 00:12.52 | HazRPG | ah, must just be a screenshot of all the frames it can do then I'm guessing |
| 00:13.01 | HazRPG | yeah, does sound pretty cool |
| 00:13.11 | mckenziemc | then again i usually don't pay much attention to clutter :X |
| 00:13.22 | HazRPG | I just want something to test out function calls and what not to see if I'm getting the right result |
| 00:13.44 | Primer | It seems that all the tooltips have been updated for flying mounts |
| 00:13.50 | HazRPG | instead of having to save it, reload ui, and then try and test it out |
| 00:14.54 | mckenziemc | what do you mean, primer? |
| 00:15.23 | Primer | well, I have a script that I was using to scrape the flying mounts from wowhead |
| 00:15.32 | mckenziemc | oh |
| 00:15.36 | Primer | so I could determine if someone had mounted a flying mount |
| 00:16.04 | Primer | Now it seems this isn't going to be so easy |
| 00:16.30 | Primer | I might just go back to checking for IsFlying() in an onupdate |
| 00:16.43 | Primer | which was not how I wanted to do this |
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| 00:16.55 | mckenziemc | so to scrape wowhead, do you use ruby scripts? i have no idea how it works |
| 00:16.59 | Primer | perl |
| 00:17.05 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 00:17.07 | arkanes | theres no particular requirement |
| 00:17.18 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/flight-hud/view/trunk/scrape.pl |
| 00:17.24 | Primer | if you want to look at it |
| 00:17.32 | mckenziemc | so it grabs the pages the same way a browser would, but parses it instead of just displaying? |
| 00:17.38 | Primer | yes |
| 00:17.54 | Primer | I even cheated by shelling out to wget :) |
| 00:17.59 | Primer | <-- lazy |
| 00:18.04 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 00:18.37 | arkanes | wget is a pretty good way to get pages |
| 00:18.38 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/flight-hud/view/trunk/FlyingMounts.lua <-- its output |
| 00:19.14 | mckenziemc | sweet |
| 00:19.25 | mckenziemc | i need to learn perl sometime : / |
| 00:19.36 | Primer | I love perl |
| 00:20.00 | Primer | I have a "Programming in Perl" book autographed by Larry Wall :) |
| 00:20.32 | arkanes | well we all have our problems |
| 00:20.46 | Primer | you must be one of those python zealots |
| 00:21.01 | Primer | two words |
| 00:21.07 | Primer | significant whitespace |
| 00:21.07 | HazRPG | hmm... this sounds interesting |
| 00:21.11 | Primer | 'nuff said |
| 00:21.18 | arkanes | yeah, perl has significant whitespace too |
| 00:21.23 | Primer | negative |
| 00:21.26 | arkanes | oh yeah? |
| 00:21.35 | arkanes | try deleting all the spaces from your sources and see what happens |
| 00:22.01 | mckenziemc | "significant whitespace" means whitespace has an effect on how the code is interpreted by the compiler/interpreter? |
| 00:22.06 | Primer | function argument; <-- would break, yes |
| 00:22.16 | Primer | function (argument); <-- would not |
| 00:22.23 | arkanes | Primer: okay then |
| 00:22.32 | Primer | so, I guess you are technically correct |
| 00:22.36 | arkanes | indeed I am |
| 00:22.43 | Primer | you're still a zealot! |
| 00:22.49 | arkanes | for further proof, you can add spaces at random and see how suddenly it fails to parse |
| 00:22.49 | Primer | so there |
| 00:23.22 | arkanes | when you program in brainfuck and can add any amount of any kind of whitespace anywhere you want and the program still works the same, then we can talk |
| 00:23.57 | arkanes | mckenziemc: Python uses indentation to deliniate blocks instead of {} or begin/end pairs like most other popular languages |
| 00:24.05 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 00:24.11 | Primer | which is the reason why I can't stand it |
| 00:24.14 | arkanes | mckenziemc: people who are imprecise with their language like to call this "significant whitespace" |
| 00:24.27 | arkanes | Primer: silliness |
| 00:24.31 | mckenziemc | so indenting a line would be enough to change the scope of its contents then? |
| 00:24.40 | Primer | arkanes: I'm set in my ways |
| 00:24.43 | mckenziemc | s/line/block/ |
| 00:24.53 | Primer | mckenziemc: it'd outright break it |
| 00:24.55 | arkanes | mckenziemc: it's a little more compliated than that |
| 00:25.00 | arkanes | but yes |
| 00:25.09 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 00:25.12 | HazRPG | how do you do comments in the .toc file? |
| 00:25.17 | arkanes | HazRPG: leading # |
| 00:25.44 | HazRPG | so what difference does that have towards ## |
| 00:26.06 | arkanes | mckenziemc: if you think about this, this is not any different than how adding any amount of other bytes to your source file will break it |
| 00:26.06 | HazRPG | are ## info that gets passed to wow? |
| 00:26.44 | Primer | arkanes: tell me how you feel about java |
| 00:27.13 | arkanes | theres a couple small downsides, like transfering python over whitespace-senstive channels (like IRC) or non-whitespace preserving ones (like html or many email clients) makes it difficult to preserve |
| 00:27.36 | arkanes | but then again those aren't common channels to transfer significant code |
| 00:27.44 | arkanes | Primer: Java is fine for the kind of people who like it |
| 00:28.45 | Primer | are you one of those people? |
| 00:28.56 | arkanes | not really |
| 00:28.57 | mckenziemc | yes haz, that tells the client that it's important |
| 00:29.00 | Primer | hehe good |
| 00:29.04 | Primer | I'm not either |
| 00:29.09 | arkanes | c# is a better specimen of the same language family |
| 00:29.38 | mckenziemc | i like java :o |
| 00:29.51 | mckenziemc | then again i'm not an experienced programmer |
| 00:30.09 | arkanes | its okay, you're probably not a child molester |
| 00:30.14 | arkanes | unless you also like struts |
| 00:30.28 | Primer | or swing |
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| 00:34.56 | HazRPG | I don't mind java |
| 00:35.07 | HazRPG | although I didn't have a choice in learning java at college :/ |
| 00:35.40 | arkanes | java is a language designed by people who knew better for people who didn't |
| 00:35.45 | HazRPG | 2nd year of college foundation degree |
| 00:36.13 | arkanes | that plus a number of other issues like the heavily politicized and very, very long change process means that it has stayed very stale over the years |
| 00:36.27 | arkanes | c# learned a lot of lessons from java and has been able to evolve much faster |
| 00:36.32 | HazRPG | we should have took advanced C++, but apparently the people weren't that confident in programming (the rest of the group) so to make it look good for pass marks n things, they made us do java instead *growls* |
| 00:37.38 | Primer | I hate how java is treated as panacea. Got some 'enterprise' software that needs to be written? You better do it in java! |
| 00:37.50 | Primer | Otherwise you're on crack |
| 00:38.29 | Primer | Meanwhile, there are plenty of perfectly viable alternatives |
| 00:39.02 | HazRPG | which screwed me over when I went on to do my final year of uni, cos it meant I had to learn Advanced C++ and Object Oriented Methods in Programming (which had a pre-requisite of AdvC++) |
| 00:39.27 | arkanes | theres a lot of stuff about java that makes it really good for the enterprise |
| 00:39.52 | arkanes | some of those are even positive things |
| 00:40.29 | Primer | arkanes: problem is a lot of people embrace java for the sake of java |
| 00:40.29 | HazRPG | so I was learning more advanced C++ based stuff, and the advanced stuff at the same time... so it was like "go into this class, understand nothing, go into the next one... oh wow that previous lesson makes more sense now that we've just learned the stuff that it relates to..." |
| 00:40.32 | arkanes | HazRPG: I shiver to think what the content might be like in a course named that :( |
| 00:40.33 | Repo | 10libprint (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r2 / (8 files in 1 directory): redesigned to use LibBuilder |
| 00:40.34 | Repo | implemented separate classes |
| 00:40.54 | arkanes | I spent about 10 years working in C++ |
| 00:41.04 | arkanes | and I've spent the last 6 aggressively forgetting everything I knew |
| 00:41.10 | Primer | arkanes: nice |
| 00:41.29 | arkanes | it's been very pleasant |
| 00:41.32 | HazRPG | those were the module names, the course itself was called "Degree in Computing" |
| 00:41.36 | Primer | I've not been programming that long...but I'm probably older than you :) |
| 00:41.55 | Primer | programming professionally, that is |
| 00:41.55 | Hjalte | Adirelle: Lots of errors with Inline Aura 1.6-beta-2-24 on logging in. Nolib version. Seems related to libactionbutton. |
| 00:43.10 | mckenziemc | oooohhhhh |
| 00:43.29 | mckenziemc | i have to have Pageant running with my key loaded every time i commit? |
| 00:43.54 | arkanes | you don't *have* to |
| 00:44.00 | mckenziemc | i think that explains the issue i was having with a different project last night >< |
| 00:44.11 | mckenziemc | i kept getting authentication errors |
| 00:44.24 | arkanes | theres other ways to get your key loaded into putty, but paegent is probably the best one |
| 00:44.39 | arkanes | set it to launch at startup and you'll be good |
| 00:44.44 | mckenziemc | well, point being i have to load something "extra" |
| 00:45.19 | mckenziemc | when i worked on UpRank i used SVN with a plaintext password >< |
| 00:47.01 | Primer | install cygwin and use ssh-agent :) |
| 00:47.25 | Primer | not sure if putty sees that environment though...I just do everything in cygwin when I'm in windows |
| 00:47.30 | Primer | in a terminal |
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| 00:51.35 | Primer | I really wish there was an event for when you "took flight" on a flying mount companion |
| 00:51.39 | arkanes | Primer: paegent is just a window-ized ssh-agent |
| 00:52.09 | arkanes | pollin'! pollin'! pollin' down the river |
| 00:52.19 | Primer | arkanes: good to know. I was at a friend's the other day and needed to ssh into some machine that only accepted ssh-key auth |
| 00:52.39 | arkanes | you can do key auth without paegent |
| 00:52.40 | Amadeo | 1-58 was a great experience...I'm in Outlands now and I'm bored again :( |
| 00:52.52 | arkanes | its just the most convenient way to set it up and to use key passphrases |
| 00:52.52 | mckenziemc | Primer: there's an event for when you lose control of your character right? |
| 00:52.56 | Primer | arkanes: I dislike polling |
| 00:53.32 | arkanes | polling is only bad if you have alternatives |
| 00:53.43 | mckenziemc | idk if it would help for that, but maybe you could limit polling to the time between that and regaining control |
| 00:54.40 | Primer | I'm talking about a flying mount |
| 00:54.46 | Primer | not a flight path |
| 00:54.54 | arkanes | theres special events for flight paths |
| 00:55.36 | mckenziemc | i didn't think you meant either -- thought you meant quests that put you on a flyer for transportation or bombing |
| 00:55.42 | Primer | no |
| 00:55.49 | mckenziemc | my mistake |
| 00:55.55 | Primer | My addon displays a HUD when you mount a flying mount |
| 00:55.59 | arkanes | I don't think IsFlying returns true for any of those |
| 00:56.07 | Primer | I detect this by maintaining a flying mount db |
| 00:56.13 | mckenziemc | should've known since you were talking about scraping wowhead |
| 00:56.43 | arkanes | its really not that tricky |
| 00:56.55 | arkanes | detect summoning of mount |
| 00:57.03 | arkanes | poll 5 times a second until dismounted |
| 00:57.19 | arkanes | the cpu usage will be infitismal, the logic will be simple, and no need to maintain a mount database |
| 00:58.22 | Primer | yeah, I have a poller that detects swimming already |
| 00:59.42 | mckenziemc | HazRPG: the game reports the current interface as 40000; if any addons have it as 40100 they're doing it wrong :p |
| 01:00.20 | HazRPG | totally :P |
| 01:00.31 | HazRPG | also, it was in one of the wiki's for wowace as 40100 ^^ |
| 01:00.41 | HazRPG | since been updated I've noticed however |
| 01:00.56 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 01:01.11 | HazRPG | I stuck with 40000 cos it was the major of them I noticed as that ^^ |
| 01:02.24 | HazRPG | but thanks for the heads up on GetBuildInfo |
| 01:02.31 | HazRPG | (I might have typed that wrong ^^) |
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| 01:05.34 | mckenziemc | is there an addon that tracks who has ignored you |
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| 01:09.18 | mckenziemc | come to think of it i wonder if WoW would consider your addon "out of date" if your addon's Interface value was -ahead- of where it should be |
| 01:13.53 | mckenziemc | !api CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL |
| 01:13.53 | lua_bot | CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL: Fires when a message is received in a world or custom chat channel (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL) |
| 01:19.49 | HazRPG | mckenziemc: you'd think so right? |
| 01:24.20 | Sapu | mckenziemc / hazRPG: it does |
| 01:24.39 | Adirelle | Hjalte, got it, howver I'm going to sleep now, so just switch back in the meantime |
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| 01:43.48 | purl | torhal <~callahan@74-128-172-43.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 16m 27s ago, saying: 'Yah, there are new cooking recipes as well which pompy has yet to add'. |
| 01:44.38 | mckenziemc | @project spamthrottle |
| 01:44.39 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/spamthrottle/. SpamThrottle. Game: WoW. Orukxu (Manager/Author). Updated: 48 days ago |
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| 01:46.51 | HazRPG | right I want to make my addon somewhat modular, is that hard to do in WoW? |
| 01:47.07 | mckenziemc | nah |
| 01:47.22 | mckenziemc | it's more complicated but what you need is available |
| 01:47.35 | HazRPG | I mean currently I have them in separate files, but I want people to be able to use my main addon, and make some plugins for it |
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| 01:48.13 | HazRPG | like for example use some functions that are possibly used else-where in the whole addon |
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| 01:49.14 | HazRPG | I know when they're all in the same folder, they gain the functions found else where as long as each file has: local addon = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon(MODNAME); |
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| 01:49.47 | HazRPG | if I was to branch that out into separate addon folders, would they still be able to use the other functions by just making sure that line is in it? |
| 01:49.53 | HazRPG | or am I missing a trick here? |
| 01:50.06 | mckenziemc | yes, as long as the load order is correct |
| 01:50.53 | mckenziemc | hey torhal, what does that +o or +v thing mean whenever an admin logs on |
| 01:51.15 | HazRPG | how so? |
| 01:51.41 | HazRPG | +v = voice if I recall, and +o = operating (or moderator) |
| 01:51.44 | HazRPG | I think... |
| 01:51.52 | HazRPG | operator* even |
| 01:51.52 | arkanes | HazRPG: seperate folders means seperate addons |
| 01:52.11 | mckenziemc | you have the main addon with its normal dependencies, and the modules all need ## Dependencies: <main addon> in them |
| 01:52.14 | HazRPG | I understand that, but can't the functions of each be passed along? |
| 01:52.21 | arkanes | HazRPG: but the global namespace is global and there is no data hiding, so if you know the name of an addon you can get a reference ot its table and call stuff in it |
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| 01:52.29 | arkanes | there's no "passing" |
| 01:53.05 | HazRPG | arkanes, sorry I don't mean passing... what I mean is calling functions from another addon |
| 01:53.30 | mckenziemc | are you using a repo for your project? |
| 01:53.38 | HazRPG | not currently |
| 01:53.46 | HazRPG | I am planning on doing so though |
| 01:53.55 | arkanes | HazRPG: you're complicating your mental model |
| 01:54.02 | arkanes | HazRPG: addons have a namespace |
| 01:54.11 | arkanes | if you can get ahold of that namespace, you can call stuff in it |
| 01:54.18 | mckenziemc | i -think- you need a repo so that the curse client can figure out where exactly your modules should be placed |
| 01:54.49 | arkanes | theres a few ways to get access to a namespace, one of them is to use LibStub |
| 01:55.14 | HazRPG | right, following so far |
| 01:55.32 | mckenziemc | cause if you put them all in one zip file for one project, i think the client will assume those all go in Interface\AddOns\<project>\each folder in your zip |
| 01:55.34 | arkanes | thats all there is to it |
| 01:55.47 | arkanes | there's nothing special about an addon table, its like any other table |
| 01:55.50 | Xinhuan | zzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 01:55.54 | Xinhuan | deathwing killed me again |
| 01:55.58 | mckenziemc | sorry for the double convo |
| 01:56.10 | arkanes | just as you can use your local addon table inside your addon, other addons can use your addon table if they have it |
| 01:56.42 | HazRPG | the whole table concept thing is slowly starting to sink in, I'm just not use to them being referred that way ya see |
| 01:56.48 | arkanes | embedded libraries work exactly this way |
| 01:57.03 | arkanes | tables are the only data structure lua has, everything is tables |
| 01:57.22 | HazRPG | mckenziemc: so what your saying is, if I make a repo on wowace, I'd need to make several projects to make them go into separate folders? |
| 01:57.43 | mckenziemc | no, if you use a repo there's a way to do it with one project |
| 01:57.55 | mckenziemc | just one* |
| 01:58.52 | HazRPG | arkanes: cool, that makes sense of things a bit better. Much thanks :) |
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| 02:03.42 | HazRPG | mckenziemc: mind on elaborating some more on that? |
| 02:04.01 | mckenziemc | you use a file called .pkgmeta |
| 02:04.31 | HazRPG | I read that somewhere on wowace |
| 02:04.57 | mckenziemc | when you use a repo, you "commit" your files to the repository hosted on wowace, and a program called the "packager" checks your project for that file |
| 02:05.02 | HazRPG | but I wasn't considering uploading my addon until everyone who's tested it so far has said "dude you should totally upload that to curse!" |
| 02:05.43 | HazRPG | mckenziemc: I do have my own SVN server sat next to me right now btw ;) |
| 02:05.57 | mckenziemc | if it's not there it'll do default processing, if it is, the packager will extract instructions from it |
| 02:06.06 | mckenziemc | ah, so you're comfortable with SVN? |
| 02:06.11 | HazRPG | indeed :P |
| 02:06.31 | HazRPG | I have trouble getting my fellow coders getting to grips with it however :( |
| 02:07.07 | HazRPG | we're trying to make an old-school platformer game, so I taught myself SVN and Git |
| 02:07.15 | mckenziemc | CurseForge is a little more lax with addon requirements, you shouldn't have any trouble starting a project there (i probably should've done that when teh projects i just made since they're experimental) |
| 02:07.16 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 02:07.21 | HazRPG | however my friends can't seem to get to grips with it |
| 02:07.55 | mckenziemc | i don't know git but i have partial knowledge of svn and mercurial |
| 02:08.13 | HazRPG | I thought mercurial was a e-mail server :s |
| 02:08.15 | Sapu | sorry to randomly butt-in but is there any way to have multiple folders be packaged into one zip using curseforge's packager....if an addon had multiple folders (similar to Auctioneer, Prat, DBM, etc) |
| 02:08.32 | mckenziemc | i use the Tortoise shells though, not command line |
| 02:08.45 | HazRPG | mckenziemc: same, so much easier and less hassle :P |
| 02:08.50 | mckenziemc | sapu: you mean multiple addons from teh same project? |
| 02:08.54 | HazRPG | there's one for both SVN and Git |
| 02:09.00 | mckenziemc | modules* |
| 02:09.09 | Sapu | well they are different projects |
| 02:09.25 | Sapu | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/datastore/ is a good example |
| 02:09.35 | Sapu | one addon but multiple projects / multiple addon folders |
| 02:09.46 | mckenziemc | if the author wanted to, he could |
| 02:10.06 | HazRPG | I only used Git so that I could grab the code-base for MaNGOS a while back to experiment with addon making, means you can force an event to happen instead of waiting for it lol |
| 02:10.26 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 02:10.26 | Sapu | well I'm not the author...but for one of my addons I would want to....is there a .pgkmeta keyword for it? |
| 02:10.39 | HazRPG | e.g. in my case doing the whole XP tracker thing, easier to type .levelup instead of actually killing stuff and doing quests to level up |
| 02:10.59 | mckenziemc | ive never actually done it, but there's a "move" instruction of some sort |
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| 02:11.38 | mckenziemc | so you'd put the modules together at the top level of your working copy, .pkgmeta alongside and put the right lines in it |
| 02:11.59 | mckenziemc | i'm actually gonna try it now with one of my projects |
| 02:12.06 | HazRPG | however haven't used MaNGOS in years... |
| 02:12.42 | HazRPG | the whole configuring it and what not is a pain, along with the compile times and the rest of it |
| 02:12.50 | HazRPG | easier just to use blizzards server lol |
| 02:13.10 | HazRPG | esp cos MaNGOS doesn't keep up to date with the whole patch thing |
| 02:14.25 | Sapu | mckenziemc: we be interested if that worked / what the keywords are |
| 02:18.08 | Repo | 10dependencyloader (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r2 .pkgmeta: added .pkgmeta |
| 02:18.42 | mckenziemc | hmm, didn't seem to work :( |
| 02:19.15 | Xinhuan | uh Sapu |
| 02:19.23 | Xinhuan | i suggest you checkout how Bigwigs does it |
| 02:19.50 | Xinhuan | so get the .zip to see what is in it, then checkout the public svn URL to see teh contents of the .pkgmeta |
| 02:20.04 | mckenziemc | i'll check it out too |
| 02:20.31 | mckenziemc | because i need to figure it out in order for that addon to work |
| 02:21.09 | mckenziemc | @project BigWigs |
| 02:21.10 | Repo | mckenziemc: No project found that matches 'bigwigs' |
| 02:23.10 | HazRPG | there's a point (I was just looking at my code), back to where I was saying about having them in separate folders... how would slash commands be updated in this sense? |
| 02:23.33 | Parnic | i want to punch people that use the addon that prepends all of their guild chat messages with their real name/main char's name |
| 02:23.34 | Xinhuan | as long as they don't conflict |
| 02:23.38 | HazRPG | because I still want it to be /him <command> |
| 02:24.07 | Xinhuan | if you designed it well, your main addon will iterate thru submodule slash commands to handle them |
| 02:24.18 | mckenziemc | you'd have to have one module process slash commands; if the plugins expand the command set then you have to put a function in the processing module that allows them to communicate, basically |
| 02:25.11 | HazRPG | hmm |
| 02:25.14 | ulic | @project big-wigs |
| 02:25.16 | Repo | ulic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Game: WoW. funkydude (Manager/Author), Ammo (Author), Rabbit (Author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 18/240 |
| 02:25.33 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 02:25.48 | HazRPG | so I couldn't simply just use: local options { } for all |
| 02:25.52 | mckenziemc | i'm already checking Altoholic though |
| 02:26.16 | Xinhuan | you could look at Postal or Quartz |
| 02:26.20 | Xinhuan | both of which use modules |
| 02:26.38 | HazRPG | ooo, I already use postal... good plan batman |
| 02:27.03 | Xinhuan | Quartz also has them .pkgmeta-ed to have each submodule in its own LoD addon (for Sapu) |
| 02:27.12 | Xinhuan | Postal doesn't however |
| 02:27.26 | Sapu | sorry was afk...I'll check out BigWigs though thx xinhaun |
| 02:27.31 | Sapu | xinhuan* |
| 02:27.44 | HazRPG | ah wait, postal is all in one folder |
| 02:27.56 | Xinhuan | Postal's design is slightly different though, it can actually function without errors if you were to delete submodule files as every module is independant |
| 02:28.29 | Xinhuan | some of the modules are so small (like 2 kb ram) that it doesn't make sense at all to even have them be LoD |
| 02:28.53 | Sapu | ah |
| 02:29.01 | Sapu | "move-folders:" |
| 02:29.14 | Xinhuan | yeah Sapu, definitely checkout Quartz too |
| 02:29.28 | HazRPG | heh, I think it might be easier just to have them all in one package and just have an option to turn each module off... seems like I'm making too much work for myself here |
| 02:30.06 | Sapu | http://pastey.net/143587-17hk |
| 02:30.07 | Xinhuan | that is Postal's approach |
| 02:30.23 | Sapu | that's bigWigs pkgmeta if you haven't seen it yet mckenziemc |
| 02:30.41 | HazRPG | indeed |
| 02:31.00 | mckenziemc | yeah, also |
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| 02:31.22 | Xinhuan | however, individual LoD-able modules can be useful as well |
| 02:31.29 | Xinhuan | if they are large |
| 02:31.46 | Xinhuan | atlasloot-enhanced is another one that does this |
| 02:31.57 | Xinhuan | since it maintains LoD modules for each expansion's loot |
| 02:32.09 | mckenziemc | another issue is that if you use a repo system with multiple modules, you either have to have it separate from your working copy, or go through some funky set-up to get things working |
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| 02:32.26 | Torhal | You guys talk too much. Go get drunk or something. |
| 02:32.33 | HazRPG | if I recall, doesn't ace3 have a way of turning your slash commands into wow's addon interface options |
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| 02:32.47 | HazRPG | can't seem to find the page I read it about anymore :/ |
| 02:32.52 | doom0r | hands Torhal a drink |
| 02:32.58 | Xinhuan | it does, but you have to use something called "ace3 options table" |
| 02:33.03 | Sapu | mckenziemc: yea bigwigs just has one project (so one svn) |
| 02:33.09 | Xinhuan | something you might not want to use |
| 02:33.17 | HazRPG | ah |
| 02:33.28 | Sapu | I have a separate project (and svn) for each module |
| 02:33.42 | HazRPG | I thought the options table is what ace3 uses for slash commands though? Or is it somewhat different? |
| 02:33.56 | Xinhuan | i have adddon's that A) manually creates frames and dropdowns and shit for blizzard's interface options B) uses acegui only C) uses both acegui and blizz interface options D) uses only UIDropDownMenu for options |
| 02:34.00 | Parnic | right, but you don't have to use ace to handle your slash commands or options if you don't want |
| 02:34.02 | mckenziemc | you -might- still be able to produce a combined package, using externals |
| 02:34.12 | Xinhuan | which approach you take depends on the complexity of the addon |
| 02:34.22 | Sapu | yea...assuming the externals get packaged before the moves you mean? |
| 02:34.44 | Xinhuan | slash commands can use options table and/or a direct function |
| 02:34.44 | mckenziemc | right -- i don't know if it works in that order though |
| 02:34.53 | Sapu | yea idk |
| 02:35.05 | Xinhuan | the best way to learn would be by browsing an existing addon |
| 02:35.17 | Xinhuan | and see how each one does it, there's so many ways |
| 02:35.40 | Sapu | yea haven't found any that do the exact same thing..checking out quartz now |
| 02:36.29 | Sapu | hmm quartz uses git though...don't have git installed anymore |
| 02:36.35 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 02:36.37 | inthedrops | Finally get some personal time to relax Torhal? Thanks for the bump in your QTip thread |
| 02:37.03 | HazRPG | you could just download the addon and do it that way though? |
| 02:37.17 | Sapu | and quartz is just one folder |
| 02:37.17 | Xinhuan | the zip doesn't have the .pkgmeta file |
| 02:37.35 | Xinhuan | yeah i was referring to quartz2 =/ |
| 02:37.40 | Xinhuan | quartz3 is one folder now |
| 02:37.42 | Sapu | oh |
| 02:38.10 | Xinhuan | no biggie, you know how to do it now, that's what is important |
| 02:38.32 | Sapu | well if externals and moves work... |
| 02:38.50 | mckenziemc | anyone use Notepad++ |
| 02:38.53 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 02:38.56 | Parnic | i do |
| 02:38.58 | Sapu | yes |
| 02:39.09 | inthedrops | I do too, not exactly a power user though |
| 02:39.23 | mckenziemc | is there a way to tell it not to put tabs in (when it auto indents) if the filename == .pkgmeta? |
| 02:39.28 | Torhal | inthedrops: np...ever since Elkano made some formatting changes in July, we've been seeing some oddities from time to time, usually involving colspans. |
| 02:39.37 | inthedrops | hah, I need to find that too! |
| 02:39.43 | Sapu | .pkgmeta is a YHML file? |
| 02:39.56 | Sapu | YAML* |
| 02:39.56 | Xinhuan | not really, but you can use the view or edit menu |
| 02:40.00 | Xinhuan | to make it show all hidden chars |
| 02:40.06 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 02:40.12 | Xinhuan | should be view->show symbols |
| 02:40.24 | Xinhuan | pretty hard to make tabs with that on |
| 02:40.26 | Sapu | so you can just secify different tab stops for YAML right? |
| 02:40.27 | mckenziemc | is there a way to make that into a button on the main bar? |
| 02:40.36 | mckenziemc | i suppose |
| 02:40.49 | mckenziemc | i'll have to look at it sometime |
| 02:41.05 | Xinhuan | probably is doable |
| 02:41.18 | Xinhuan | since notepad++ is designed around allowing plugin extensions |
| 02:41.28 | Xinhuan | i use a hex editor extension sometimes |
| 02:41.42 | mckenziemc | just noticed i could choose YAML from the language menu... maybe i can set it to consider .pkgmeta as a YAML extension |
| 02:41.48 | Repo | 10syllabus: 03LaoTseu 07master * 4e2b3e5 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 02:41.49 | Repo | 4e2b3e5: Renamed SHARED_SKILLS to RIDING_SKILLS |
| 02:41.50 | Repo | a1290e4: Added an option to filter Riding skills. |
| 02:41.51 | Repo | fe11b84: Fix Riding problem. |
| 02:41.54 | Xinhuan | you can |
| 02:41.54 | Sapu | I got almost all the wow APIs entered into the lua style so they highlight...if anybody wants the list |
| 02:41.55 | mckenziemc | it puts the line in red if theres a tab in it |
| 02:42.21 | mckenziemc | *hoping the tabs are why my last try didn't work* |
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| 02:43.02 | Xinhuan | there's some file u can edit |
| 02:43.05 | Xinhuan | for that one |
| 02:43.08 | Xinhuan | google it out lol |
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| 02:44.15 | doom0r | mckenziemc: there are tabsettings per type, i don't know how you go about adding a type to that list however |
| 02:44.28 | doom0r | there are also, replace by space options |
| 02:45.10 | Xinhuan | they are mostly in the TextFX menu |
| 02:45.50 | Repo | 10dependencyloader (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r4 .pkgmeta: replaced tabs in .pkgmeta with spaces |
| 02:45.52 | Repo | .pkgmeta test |
| 02:46.22 | Sapu | I assume it would be frowned upon to make a project which is solely a compliation of different modules of an addon?...possibly addon pack would be more appropriate |
| 02:46.27 | doom0r | there's a default tab type to use based on what kind of file in the normal preferences |
| 02:46.35 | mckenziemc | i think so, sapg |
| 02:46.36 | ulic | don't do that, spaces are fail |
| 02:46.46 | mckenziemc | ulic: YAML |
| 02:47.07 | mckenziemc | does not allow tabs |
| 02:47.34 | mckenziemc | still not working |
| 02:47.34 | doom0r | mckenziemc: there is a yaml option, uncheck use default |
| 02:47.36 | mckenziemc | cries |
| 02:47.47 | doom0r | just associate .pkgmeta with yaml |
| 02:48.26 | mckenziemc | yeah, you said that already :p |
| 02:48.47 | mckenziemc | i meant my repo wasn't packaging the way i want it t |
| 02:48.48 | mckenziemc | o |
| 02:48.55 | doom0r | o |
| 02:49.05 | Sapu | what's the problem? is it not packaging at all? |
| 02:49.42 | mckenziemc | hmm maybe it's case sensitive |
| 02:49.52 | mckenziemc | it isn't moving the folders |
| 02:50.18 | Xinhuan | haven't u learnt everything in programming is case sensitive? |
| 02:50.48 | mckenziemc | i don't know if it matters that i have a folder called DependencyLoader at the top level of the repo, and the project has the same name |
| 02:51.36 | Xinhuan | it packages the contents of trunk\ |
| 02:51.42 | mckenziemc | Xinhuan: i used the way the project is capitalized, and just recently noticed the repo was set to package in lowercase, to match the slug S( |
| 02:51.50 | mckenziemc | :( * |
| 02:54.06 | Repo | 10dependencyloader (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r5 .pkgmeta: added package-as to .pkgmeta |
| 02:56.05 | Sapu | just curious...do only beta/release versions get posted in the IRC? |
| 02:56.08 | mckenziemc | hehe, case is what it cas |
| 02:56.21 | doom0r | Sapu: no |
| 02:56.22 | Xinhuan | every commit is posted |
| 02:56.36 | mckenziemc | i think any commit gets posted, IF the project has that set |
| 02:56.40 | Sapu | hmm |
| 02:56.41 | mckenziemc | either all or nothing |
| 02:56.41 | Xinhuan | most repos are public - so anyone with wowace account can commit to any addon |
| 02:56.51 | Xinhuan | so we tend to watch for mischief |
| 02:57.25 | Sapu | never seen my addon posted in here is why I asked...comitted a few times recently |
| 02:57.39 | Xinhuan | your addon is probably under curseforge perhaps? |
| 02:57.40 | mckenziemc | is it on wowace or curseforge? |
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| 02:57.47 | Xinhuan | #curseforge or #wowuidev-commits |
| 02:57.49 | Sapu | oh...it's curseforge yea |
| 02:57.55 | mckenziemc | curseforge gets noted on #cureseforge |
| 02:57.58 | Sapu | good call |
| 02:58.04 | mckenziemc | minus the misspelling |
| 02:58.08 | Xinhuan | and feel free to join #wowuidev |
| 02:58.14 | Xinhuan | its usually more active than #wowace |
| 02:58.20 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 02:58.34 | mckenziemc | does mmo-champion have an irc channel? |
| 02:58.47 | Xinhuan | of course |
| 02:58.56 | mckenziemc | what is it |
| 02:59.04 | Xinhuan | but it tends to discuss things that are much like wow-general-forums |
| 02:59.10 | Sapu | hmm...so everybody sees my committ msg's...good to know haha |
| 02:59.12 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 02:59.26 | doom0r | someone with knowledge of more chans should update the wowpedia irc page |
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| 03:01.00 | mckenziemc | is there any IRC client that somehow does a good job of combining multiple channels into one window without being too confusing? (idk if that's even possible) |
| 03:01.59 | HazRPG | no, but that would be awesome though! |
| 03:02.40 | doom0r | mirc can tile it's windows, as can many term solutions |
| 03:02.45 | HazRPG | your thinking of a wow way of working with channels aren't you ^^ |
| 03:02.52 | mckenziemc | no |
| 03:02.55 | ulic | don't know if it's confusing or not, by epic4 my nice cli client cant :) |
| 03:03.08 | mckenziemc | i just wanted to be able to fit everything into one window >< |
| 03:03.11 | ulic | s/by/but |
| 03:03.22 | Xinhuan | nobody sane will ever want to do that |
| 03:03.37 | Xinhuan | you would be combining about 4 realm's /2 together |
| 03:03.47 | Xinhuan | and u can't differentiate topic threads |
| 03:04.05 | mckenziemc | well, if i'm gonna be in the chats in the first place.... |
| 03:04.22 | Sapu | yea and you'd have to switch between them like "/1", "/2", etc |
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| 03:04.32 | doom0r | tile your windows or set a proper highlight |
| 03:04.36 | mckenziemc | mousewheel scroll or tab |
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| 03:04.55 | Xinhuan | trust me, you don't want to do this |
| 03:05.07 | Xinhuan | you'll easily have over 30 lines per minute |
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| 03:05.14 | Sapu | well you can keybind switching between channels in most clients |
| 03:05.20 | Sapu | it's control-tab in mIRC |
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| 03:07.11 | mckenziemc | Xinhuan: that's the point where you're in too many channels anyway |
| 03:07.37 | Xinhuan | perhaps |
| 03:07.47 | Xinhuan | but its also at the point where you realize you are active in many communities |
| 03:13.13 | HazRPG | hmmm here's an interesting thought, can you extend a function in lua? |
| 03:13.49 | HazRPG | I mean I have a reset function which resets the default values |
| 03:13.53 | arkanes | HazRPG: what do you think that means |
| 03:14.14 | Xinhuan | you can extend and/or replace functions |
| 03:14.18 | Xinhuan | in lua |
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| 03:14.43 | HazRPG | cool |
| 03:14.44 | Xinhuan | simply because functions are just variables that you call |
| 03:14.52 | Xinhuan | need an example? |
| 03:14.57 | HazRPG | yes please |
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| 03:15.31 | HazRPG | because I have a reset to defaults, but I want my modules to be able to include their own reset values too whenever the reset function is called |
| 03:15.52 | Xinhuan | lua> local ttt = print; print = function(arg1) ttt("xxx"..arg1.."xxx") end; print(123) |
| 03:15.52 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: xxx123xxx |
| 03:15.57 | mckenziemc1 | register callbacks |
| 03:16.07 | Xinhuan | essentially in this example, i replaced the print() function with my own |
| 03:16.10 | arkanes | yeah for that you want callbacks |
| 03:16.34 | arkanes | and if you use AceAddon you get a pre-made module system |
| 03:16.53 | Xinhuan | generally in this case |
| 03:17.01 | Xinhuan | you should just include all your module's defaults into the main addon |
| 03:17.11 | Xinhuan | so the module itself doesn't do anything |
| 03:17.39 | Xinhuan | meaning, your main addon tracks all its module's settings, your module just uses them |
| 03:17.45 | Xinhuan | that's the simplest way to do it |
| 03:18.02 | HazRPG | ah cool, so it would be beneficial to me to have a separate lua file for the defaults then |
| 03:18.07 | Xinhuan | a module can definitely have its own though |
| 03:18.21 | inthedrops | Xinhuan: I just did that with Hermes, in fact I think it was your advice that steered me that way. It worked out well for me |
| 03:18.23 | Xinhuan | u just have to make sure somehow, the main addon calls the module to perform its stuff |
| 03:19.22 | Xinhuan | generally you can do this either by using callbacks, or by having the main addon check for the existence of a function in the module - if it exists, call it, if not don't |
| 03:19.53 | HazRPG | cool, think I understand what you mean :) |
| 03:20.04 | Xinhuan | callbacks would be |
| 03:20.19 | Xinhuan | the module tells the main addon, hey i got this function, call it when something happens |
| 03:20.30 | Xinhuan | and the module passes the function pointer to the main addon to use |
| 03:21.21 | HazRPG | yeah |
| 03:22.50 | mckenziemc | could also have the module say to the core "hey i'm a plugin" and the core then assumes the module has certain methods, like :Reset() |
| 03:23.13 | Xinhuan | Routes uses that approach mckenziemc ;p |
| 03:23.16 | Xinhuan | so does HandyNotes |
| 03:24.22 | mckenziemc | Sapu: ping |
| 03:24.25 | Sapu | yes? |
| 03:24.28 | HazRPG | this is going to sound stupid, but can you have an function addon:OnInitialize() for each .lua file? |
| 03:24.46 | Xinhuan | if addon is the same lua table |
| 03:24.55 | Xinhuan | then the 2nd file's fnuction definition |
| 03:24.58 | Xinhuan | would overwrite the first |
| 03:25.09 | mckenziemc | you might be able to move all the files from you module projects into the main one |
| 03:25.19 | Xinhuan | because you would be assigning a function to addon.initialize |
| 03:25.26 | Xinhuan | in every file |
| 03:25.35 | HazRPG | ah, sure got it |
| 03:26.00 | Xinhuan | it might be easier to think of multiple files |
| 03:26.05 | Xinhuan | as |
| 03:26.16 | Xinhuan | one super huge file that is all the smaller files combined together |
| 03:26.27 | Xinhuan | (with do-end blocks around each file) |
| 03:26.37 | mckenziemc | you -could- then use the other projects as skeletons, put an external in a pkgmeta to pull just that part from the main project, though i don't know if there'd be any point |
| 03:27.15 | Sapu | how would I move them though? |
| 03:27.24 | Sapu | just using external and move? |
| 03:27.36 | Xinhuan | don't do complicated stuff like that |
| 03:27.47 | mckenziemc | HazRPG: you're referring to the OnInitialize from AceAddon right? |
| 03:27.49 | Xinhuan | we're programmers, we want the working copy to actually work as well |
| 03:27.55 | Xinhuan | without doing extra tricks |
| 03:28.01 | HazRPG | mckenziemc: yeah |
| 03:28.10 | Sapu | talking to me xinhuan? |
| 03:28.23 | Xinhuan | referring to his suggestion lol |
| 03:28.40 | mckenziemc | Sapu: you'd move them from your module repo to the main repo, but yeah it would break your working copy |
| 03:28.42 | Sapu | oh...not sure I even understand what he's suggesting |
| 03:28.57 | Sapu | ah yea |
| 03:29.12 | mckenziemc | Xinhuan: my wow installation is full of symbolic links |
| 03:29.26 | Xinhuan | my wow installation has none |
| 03:29.39 | Xinhuan | it doesn't need to have any |
| 03:29.54 | Xinhuan | and i've probably got 20 git and svn folders in there too lol |
| 03:30.00 | mckenziemc | HazRPG: you'd use one per addon object that you make from AceAddon, different thing |
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| 03:30.32 | mckenziemc | sorry didn't mean i expected anyone to do it the same as I, just saying :p |
| 03:30.39 | Sapu | I'm not sure yet if I'd want to package them all at one anyways...would people to download just what they want but would also be annoying to download multiple things |
| 03:31.00 | mckenziemc | true |
| 03:31.13 | Xinhuan | that depends on the addon |
| 03:31.41 | Xinhuan | choose what makes the most common use case |
| 03:31.43 | Torhal | Xinhuan: I have symbolic links, but only because I prefer to have all of my repos in a directory called Projects |
| 03:32.14 | Xinhuan | torhal, that "projects" directory, for me, is called "Interface\AddOns" :) |
| 03:32.47 | mckenziemc | Torhal: same |
| 03:32.52 | Sapu | same |
| 03:33.12 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Eh, organizational difference. I sometimes pull other people's repos and like to keep them separate so I remember which is which |
| 03:33.35 | Xinhuan | oh i have a AddOns2 folder for that |
| 03:33.38 | Xinhuan | Interface\AddOns2 |
| 03:33.40 | mckenziemc | i have all my wow stuff stored in C:\WoW, then in there i have "addons" "installations" "login" "other" "savedata" |
| 03:33.40 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 03:33.52 | Xinhuan | that is, i want all my wow stuff, to actually ALL be in the wow folder |
| 03:34.31 | Torhal | When I nuke my AddOns dir to start over I'd prefer to keep my repos intact :) |
| 03:34.45 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 03:34.51 | Xinhuan | i don't think i've ever nuked my addons dir before |
| 03:35.02 | Xinhuan | i go thru each addon one by one and remove them if i don't think i want that addon |
| 03:35.17 | Xinhuan | alternatively, i rename AddOns to AddOns3 |
| 03:35.22 | Xinhuan | and drag folders back in one by one |
| 03:35.29 | Xinhuan | to the new AddOns |
| 03:35.34 | Torhal | I get rid of them all and re-add the ones I know I want. If something didn't get added back I probably didn't want it anyway |
| 03:35.55 | Xinhuan | so all my addons stuff all go in Interface\ |
| 03:36.00 | Xinhuan | one folder to backup everything |
| 03:36.42 | mckenziemc | yeah but then you're backing up the Data files too |
| 03:36.55 | Xinhuan | i don't backup data files |
| 03:37.09 | Xinhuan | why would i? |
| 03:37.19 | Xinhuan | just WTF and Interface |
| 03:37.28 | Xinhuan | and possibly Screenshots |
| 03:37.29 | mckenziemc | well you said 'one folder to backup' |
| 03:37.43 | mckenziemc | oh |
| 03:37.50 | mckenziemc | nvm, misread |
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| 03:47.51 | mckenziemc | http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html |
| 03:48.20 | mckenziemc | email address validator |
| 03:54.57 | Sapu | ok...probably dumb question but how do you tag an svn for beta? |
| 03:56.41 | Parnic | tag it on the wowace addon page and put "beta" in the tag |
| 03:57.46 | Sapu | what about just through svn's tag though? |
| 03:57.51 | Sapu | I've done it before by accident heh |
| 03:57.59 | Sapu | just don't remember what I did |
| 04:00.39 | mckenziemc | are you using tortoisesvn? |
| 04:01.01 | Sapu | yes |
| 04:01.31 | mckenziemc | right click your repo, go into the TSVN menu, and click tag/branch |
| 04:01.35 | Sapu | yea... |
| 04:02.20 | mckenziemc | from there i -think- you change the url to mainline/<tag name, including b or beta> |
| 04:02.28 | mckenziemc | but it's been a while |
| 04:02.30 | mckenziemc | oh |
| 04:02.48 | mckenziemc | anything that doesn't start with a v will be a beta, or something like that |
| 04:03.14 | Sapu | oh |
| 04:03.17 | mckenziemc | i'll check the KB |
| 04:03.32 | Sapu | let me try |
| 04:04.24 | mckenziemc | mainline/tags/yourtag |
| 04:04.45 | Sapu | yea I got that part...do that for releases...just wasn't sure about betas |
| 04:04.51 | Sapu | just tried it with one of my addons... |
| 04:04.56 | Sapu | waiting for it to be packaged |
| 04:05.02 | mckenziemc | http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-faq/ |
| 04:05.29 | mckenziemc | has a section explaining how the packager tells if it's a beta vs a release, if you're curious |
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| 04:08.00 | Sapu | ok so I'd have to add a "b" or "beta" basically? |
| 04:08.16 | mckenziemc | odd, page says the packager runs every 20 minutes -- that may be out of date though, the addon i was just testing was packaged instantly everytime |
| 04:08.43 | mckenziemc | anythnig that doesn't start with v or contain "release" or "stable" |
| 04:08.48 | Sapu | yea sometimes it's fast sometimes it's slow... |
| 04:09.08 | Sapu | right now it's being slow for me but earlier was packaging instantly |
| 04:09.37 | mckenziemc | but putting "beta" on it makes it easier for anyone browsing your tags to figure it out, i guess |
| 04:10.16 | Sapu | yea |
| 04:17.00 | Niv | ~wowalert |
| 04:17.01 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 04:19.26 | doom0r | 5 years, finally got star belt |
| 04:25.52 | Repo | 10smartres2: 03myrroddin * r176 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 04:25.53 | Repo | Res bars position now saved to saved variables instead of layout-local.txt |
| 04:25.54 | Repo | Bug fixes with nil variables |
| 04:25.55 | Repo | Make options even tidier and nicer to look at (custom and random message inputs wider so you can see what you are typing, Test Bars button at top of Res Bars options) |
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| 04:33.39 | doom0r | Parnic: just tried learning one of the cooking recipes: That spell is not available to you. |
| 04:34.24 | Parnic | possibly hotfixed? my rogue knows 4 of them :P |
| 04:35.10 | doom0r | i doubt it, people were complaining about it right away |
| 04:35.13 | doom0r | probably more to it |
| 04:37.32 | mckenziemc | which recipies? |
| 04:37.39 | doom0r | new ones |
| 04:38.15 | mckenziemc | oh cata stuff? |
| 04:38.29 | doom0r | ya, from the faction cooking daily |
| 04:38.35 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 04:45.23 | Parnic | i'll screenshot my cookbook when i get out of this instance ;) |
| 04:46.16 | doom0r | i just wanna know what's diff about your acc/server/whatever that allowed you to learn em ;x |
| 04:46.32 | Parnic | ya got me |
| 04:46.58 | Parnic | the only recipes i don't know are savory deviate and dirge's |
| 04:47.02 | Parnic | aside from 4.0 ones |
| 04:47.06 | doom0r | heh, got those long ago |
| 04:47.49 | doom0r | i know all tailor/chant/cook recipes vanilla cept thistle tea now =\ |
| 04:49.23 | Motig | youcan probably buy a dirge's recipe Parnic |
| 04:49.44 | Motig | I never used mine :p |
| 04:49.56 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 04:49.58 | doom0r | ~10k on my serv |
| 04:50.06 | Motig | that's not too bad, I expected much higher |
| 04:50.15 | doom0r | it'll go up ;x |
| 04:50.19 | Motig | but my server is dead, we have about 250-320 Alliance players online at peak times |
| 04:50.28 | Motig | I wrote an addon to check it :< |
| 04:50.35 | mckenziemc | ouch |
| 04:50.44 | mckenziemc | censusplus works for that |
| 04:50.52 | doom0r | heh, i play on the oldest and one of the highest pvp servers |
| 04:50.59 | Motig | I guess but way more fun to make one myself |
| 04:51.01 | Motig | ^^ |
| 04:51.04 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 04:51.14 | Motig | this server is from 2005 |
| 04:51.15 | mckenziemc | @curse |
| 04:51.17 | Repo | mckenziemc: (curse <project> or <game>/<project>) -- Returns details about the project |
| 04:51.39 | doom0r | @list curseforge |
| 04:51.39 | Repo | doom0r: curse, describe, postaticket, project, repository, and ticket |
| 04:52.06 | mckenziemc | is there a way to see a list of the addons managed by a given author? |
| 04:52.16 | doom0r | go view their profile |
| 04:52.19 | mckenziemc | just curious |
| 04:52.35 | mckenziemc | i know that, meant with the channel bots |
| 04:52.44 | doom0r | unlikely |
| 04:52.55 | mckenziemc | because being lazy is nice |
| 04:53.30 | doom0r | there's several people with 30+, that would be overkill |
| 04:53.56 | mckenziemc | well it could do something like this |
| 04:54.01 | mckenziemc | !api xp |
| 04:54.01 | lua_bot | Found 43 possible matches for 'xp'. Please be more specific |
| 04:54.16 | mckenziemc | and link to their profile page |
| 05:02.44 | Repo | 10sexyreputation: 03dhedbor * r2 / (18 files in 2 directories): First check in. |
| 05:06.56 | mckenziemc | @describe sexyreputation |
| 05:06.57 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexyreputation/. Sexy Reputation. A fancy LDB reputation display, showing rep info for the current characters and alts |
| 05:07.13 | NeoTron | also will keep track of rep gains over tim |
| 05:07.25 | mckenziemc | mckenziemc: ping |
| 05:07.26 | NeoTron | maybe with some graphing |
| 05:07.39 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 05:09.55 | doom0r | is it really sexy though? |
| 05:10.12 | doom0r | cause ara looks damn good |
| 05:12.14 | NeoTron | it's a tooltip |
| 05:12.17 | NeoTron | how sexy can it be? :P |
| 05:14.20 | NeoTron | what is "ara"? |
| 05:14.37 | mckenziemc | @describe ara |
| 05:14.37 | Repo | mckenziemc: No project found that matches 'ara' |
| 05:14.46 | mckenziemc | @describe ara* |
| 05:14.47 | Repo | mckenziemc: No project found that matches 'ara*' |
| 05:14.59 | mckenziemc | @googleitforme ara |
| 05:15.07 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 05:15.38 | mckenziemc | we need a "lmgtfy" bot imo |
| 05:15.53 | mckenziemc | ~help |
| 05:16.35 | NeoTron | it's not on curse |
| 05:16.48 | durcyn | ~lmgtfy lmgtfy |
| 05:16.48 | purl | ACTION thinks you should look here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lmgtfy |
| 05:17.09 | durcyn | lesson 1: recursion |
| 05:17.21 | Parnic | lesson 1: recursion |
| 05:18.10 | mckenziemc | oooh |
| 05:18.21 | mckenziemc | i was looking through the help |
| 05:18.25 | mckenziemc | for purl |
| 05:20.12 | mckenziemc | ~lobotomy |
| 05:20.12 | purl | I feel different somehow. |
| 05:20.30 | doom0r | NeoTron: http://imgur.com/95236.jpg |
| 05:20.58 | NeoTron | I admit I didn't see that one since it wasn't on curse |
| 05:21.16 | NeoTron | mine doesn't have bars right now so clearly not there yet, but I'm also not very far along |
| 05:21.24 | NeoTron | what I'll add is the historical rep gains |
| 05:21.27 | Repo | 10syllabus: 03LaoTseu 07master * 61661da Syllabus.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 05:21.28 | Repo | 61661da: Added debugging code for the trainers |
| 05:21.29 | Repo | 637ac0d: Fix an issue with spell_id being saved as string in the known_db |
| 05:21.49 | doom0r | only reason i use it, it's so damn clean |
| 05:22.58 | NeoTron | http://oi56.tinypic.com/2cdvcxx.jpg |
| 05:23.01 | NeoTron | again though, very early |
| 05:23.17 | NeoTron | that one is a bit old too |
| 05:23.39 | mckenziemc | why doesn't purl's help list all of its commands? like ~asktoask |
| 05:24.07 | NeoTron | http://oi51.tinypic.com/20uri8j.jpg |
| 05:24.08 | doom0r | sec |
| 05:24.10 | doom0r | ~help |
| 05:24.27 | doom0r | mckenziemc: facts |
| 05:24.35 | doom0r | she teachable |
| 05:24.41 | doom0r | s/she/she's/ |
| 05:24.56 | doom0r | you can teach her what stuff is |
| 05:25.04 | doom0r | not everything is a hardcoded command |
| 05:25.16 | mckenziemc | i figured |
| 05:25.20 | Parnic | ~ackis |
| 05:25.20 | purl | hmm... ackis is tmi |
| 05:25.26 | Parnic | ~sylvanaar |
| 05:25.26 | purl | ERROR: stack overflow. JK LOL. |
| 05:25.32 | mckenziemc | how do you look up all the factoids |
| 05:25.34 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 05:25.34 | NeoTron | ~mckenziemc |
| 05:25.46 | NeoTron | bah |
| 05:25.51 | mckenziemc | i assume only admins can teach it |
| 05:25.55 | Parnic | ~fisker |
| 05:25.55 | purl | i heard fisker is like, the #wowace channel troll. worthless, or always one step ahead of the average troll, on fire |
| 05:26.14 | mckenziemc | ~kaelten |
| 05:26.14 | purl | somebody said kaelten was the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong winDROP DATABASE wowace_wiki;...aw, dammitall. |
| 05:28.00 | mckenziemc | ~asdf |
| 05:28.00 | purl | asdf is probably one of the best players on Team USA |
| 05:30.49 | mckenziemc | ~karma purl |
| 05:30.49 | purl | purl has karma of 42 |
| 05:30.59 | Parnic | purl, do you like me? |
| 05:30.59 | purl | yes, I like me. |
| 05:31.05 | Parnic | well played |
| 05:31.08 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 05:31.22 | mckenziemc | what is the meaning of life? |
| 05:31.28 | Parnic | ask purl! |
| 05:31.39 | mckenziemc | purl, what is the meaning of life |
| 05:31.39 | purl | mckenziemc: what are you talking about? |
| 05:32.08 | mckenziemc | purl, who am I? |
| 05:32.08 | purl | mckenziemc shut up, you are a nobody |
| 05:32.14 | Parnic | lol |
| 05:32.18 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 05:32.30 | Parnic | purl that was pretty mean |
| 05:33.50 | mckenziemc | ~1 |
| 05:33.50 | purl | 1 is a number, silly |
| 05:34.44 | mckenziemc | ~2 |
| 05:34.44 | purl | It's TO, not '2'. This is not l33t3 sp34k nor is this AOL. |
| 05:35.44 | Torhal | purl, who am I? |
| 05:35.44 | purl | torhal shut up, you are a nobody |
| 05:36.04 | Torhal | purl, no, I am somebody |
| 05:36.06 | Parnic | purl, how do i become somebody? |
| 05:36.16 | Parnic | i guess i'm blacklisted |
| 05:36.26 | mckenziemc | ~nickometer torhal |
| 05:37.03 | mckenziemc | purl, what is my name? |
| 05:37.04 | purl | hmm... my name is Pistos. |
| 05:37.19 | mckenziemc | ~torhal |
| 05:37.19 | purl | from memory, torhal is one of Ackis' favourite minions. Pompy too. |
| 05:37.33 | pompy | .. |
| 05:37.49 | doom0r | lawl |
| 05:37.49 | Parnic | uh oh, purl summoned pompy |
| 05:38.10 | mckenziemc | ~pompy |
| 05:38.26 | mckenziemc | ~karma pompy |
| 05:38.26 | purl | pompy has karma of 5 |
| 05:39.22 | mckenziemc | ~piglatin wtf does this do |
| 05:39.46 | mckenziemc | purl, i'm bored now |
| 05:41.43 | mckenziemc | ~cookie |
| 05:49.03 | Repo | 10libprint (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): made multiple improvements to Destination |
| 05:49.04 | Repo | started cleaning up LibPrint.lua |
| 05:53.59 | mckenziemc | ~google .pkgmeta |
| 05:54.18 | mckenziemc | ~lmgtfy .pkgmeta |
| 05:54.18 | purl | ACTION thinks you should look here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=.pkgmeta |
| 05:54.33 | mckenziemc | thanks, purl |
| 05:57.33 | Parnic | ha, there's a quest out in swamp of sorrows where you get fired out of a cannon...it grants the 'going down?' achievement |
| 05:58.36 | mckenziemc | haha |
| 05:59.33 | doom0r | everytime i see that i instantly here "love in an elevator" |
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| 06:08.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 06:25.18 | mckenziemc | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/11/double-secret-reverse-psychology/ |
| 06:39.00 | doom0r | haha, genius mispelled his guild name and bought 3 tabs, now trying to sell it off |
| 06:41.43 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 06:41.50 | mckenziemc | what's the guild name? |
| 06:41.59 | doom0r | he spelled squirels |
| 06:42.57 | doom0r | we told him to gdisband and accept his failure |
| 06:43.04 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 06:52.13 | Repo | 10libprint (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r5 / (19 files in 3 directories): updated .pkgmeta |
| 06:52.14 | Repo | rearranged repo and pulled in my old test addon |
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| 07:03.57 | HazRPG | hmm, right made my addon all modular, and that's all working fine and dandy |
| 07:04.14 | HazRPG | but why is the AceDB-3.0 not working how I thought it would :S |
| 07:05.32 | Sapu | what's working oddly? |
| 07:06.20 | HazRPG | well I thought using self.db.profile.etc would make a profile for the character that it was created for, but its not |
| 07:06.41 | HazRPG | well it sort of is, but they're all getting assigned to Default |
| 07:06.50 | Sapu | yea if you want it by character... |
| 07:07.09 | Sapu | don't pass "true" as the 3rd parameter to the AceDB:New() call |
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| 07:07.31 | HazRPG | I knew you'd say that, I haven't passed "true" at all |
| 07:07.38 | HazRPG | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("HazInterfaceModDB", defaults); |
| 07:07.47 | Sapu | heh |
| 07:07.53 | HazRPG | ah wait! |
| 07:08.07 | HazRPG | that only works if the database wasn't already created, correct? |
| 07:08.24 | Sapu | are you called New twice? |
| 07:09.18 | HazRPG | because I originally made this when getting to grips with AceDB-3.0, I did have the true value as the 3rd parameter |
| 07:09.22 | HazRPG | would that at all affect it? |
| 07:09.45 | HazRPG | how do ya'd mean? |
| 07:09.47 | Sapu | well all your characters probably have their profile set to the default one then |
| 07:09.52 | HazRPG | that line only gets called once |
| 07:10.00 | Sapu | open up the saved variables file |
| 07:10.06 | Sapu | and you should see the profile keys somwhere |
| 07:10.12 | HazRPG | yeah |
| 07:10.17 | HazRPG | they are |
| 07:10.31 | HazRPG | hmm... hold on, I'll delete and try again ^^ |
| 07:10.41 | Sapu | k :) |
| 07:10.44 | HazRPG | would I need to restart the game? |
| 07:11.21 | Sapu | no but you need to be at least logged out before editing the saved variables file |
| 07:11.30 | HazRPG | ah cool |
| 07:11.39 | Sapu | because it saves on PLAYER_LOGOUT...so if you edit it then log out...your changes will just be overriden |
| 07:14.36 | HazRPG | hmm, creepy... my widget wasn't in the default location when I relogged |
| 07:14.54 | HazRPG | shouldn't it be since I deleted the file :s |
| 07:15.18 | Sapu | reload then open the file and see what it's set to |
| 07:15.51 | HazRPG | I have lol |
| 07:15.59 | HazRPG | however it has made character profiles now |
| 07:15.59 | Sapu | weird |
| 07:16.11 | HazRPG | which is great |
| 07:16.25 | Sapu | you can also do self.db.char. btw but I assume you know that |
| 07:16.38 | HazRPG | yeah I do :P |
| 07:19.24 | HazRPG | argh! |
| 07:19.28 | Sapu | hmm...wonder if having 120 inline groups each with some buttons / labels will take forever to load... |
| 07:20.03 | Sapu | what happened? |
| 07:20.14 | HazRPG | anyone know if PLAYER_LEVEL_UP gets fired first or PLAYER_XP_UPDATE does |
| 07:20.39 | HazRPG | I have a feeling PLAYER_XP_UPDATE gets fired first... thus the reason I'm having issues |
| 07:21.19 | Sapu | I would guess that blizzard listens for PLAYER_XP_UPDATE and then in that callback checks to see if PLAYER_LEVEL_UP should be fired |
| 07:23.21 | HazRPG | because I just sent my addon to my friend now that its all working perfectly, to test it and he said that on when he leveled up, the counter reset instead of just adding on to it |
| 07:23.55 | Sapu | well could you just check if they are going to level up in the PLAYER_XP_UPDATE handler? |
| 07:24.15 | Sapu | and if so do whatever your level up code is |
| 07:24.20 | Sapu | before the xp update code |
| 07:24.53 | HazRPG | hold on, going to do an eventtrace to see if its fired first or not |
| 07:25.06 | mckenziemc | heh, duplicated function definitions make for fun troubleshooting |
| 07:25.55 | HazRPG | idd! |
| 07:28.02 | mckenziemc | ~wtf idd |
| 07:28.41 | mckenziemc | i thought that meant "i disagree dude" but ive seen contexts where that didn't make sense |
| 07:28.54 | mckenziemc | ~hug |
| 07:28.54 | purl | ACTION hugs mckenziemc |
| 07:29.47 | mckenziemc | ~wtf wtf |
| 07:30.26 | mckenziemc | i made purl cuss :O |
| 07:30.57 | HazRPG | idd = indeed |
| 07:31.08 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 07:32.09 | mckenziemc | i think it was urbandictionary that told me it was the other way |
| 07:32.25 | HazRPG | hmmm, random |
| 07:32.32 | HazRPG | me and my friends use idd for indeed |
| 07:34.22 | HazRPG | man I should have just made a lvl 1 to test this out ^^ |
| 07:34.28 | mckenziemc | i was working on an addon once were most of the functions were in one file but i had accidentally put a redundant definition in the 2nd file -- i got so frustrated trying to figure out why my edits weren't getting applied |
| 07:36.05 | mckenziemc | ~trout purl |
| 07:36.05 | purl | ACTION slaps purl around a bit with a large trout! |
| 07:36.16 | mckenziemc | :D |
| 07:36.51 | HazRPG | hmm I just tested it and it works fine! |
| 07:37.01 | HazRPG | *screams inside really loudly* |
| 07:37.14 | mckenziemc | well |
| 07:37.15 | HazRPG | although he's saying its working for him now though :/ |
| 07:37.28 | HazRPG | (he's rolled a new char) |
| 07:37.43 | mckenziemc | it's possible that the server sends both messages, and "jitter" causes them to arrive in an unpredictable order |
| 07:37.56 | HazRPG | could it be that because he rolled a new char and the values are set similar to that of the default and its went funny ? |
| 07:38.45 | HazRPG | that could also be true too however |
| 07:39.22 | HazRPG | although, wouldn't that cause many addons to play in a not so nice manor? Inc. their own? |
| 07:39.47 | HazRPG | surely the server would send the XP, and the rest would be calculated client-side? |
| 07:39.56 | mckenziemc | depends |
| 07:40.21 | mckenziemc | many parts of the api don't sync perfectly, i think |
| 07:40.21 | mckenziemc | and |
| 07:40.58 | HazRPG | might roll a new character and see what happens |
| 07:41.08 | HazRPG | like I said, it might just be the way my calculations are done |
| 07:41.26 | mckenziemc | idk about levelup being on the client side, server might check if you're allowed to level (consider 21 for trial accs, 61 for original, 71 for bc ) |
| 07:42.11 | HazRPG | true |
| 07:42.18 | mckenziemc | and the server's going to be updating anyone else in your vicinity about your levelup, so i think it'd make more sense on server side |
| 07:42.27 | HazRPG | it could still do that calculation, and decide whether it should be sent or not |
| 07:44.03 | HazRPG | only one way to find out right? :P |
| 07:44.09 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 07:44.58 | HazRPG | *rolls new character to see what happens* |
| 07:46.47 | mckenziemc | steamrolls new characters on haz's server |
| 07:47.12 | Sapu | Haz you US or EU? |
| 07:47.31 | Computerpunk | Don't ask me how I know, but it's server-side. |
| 07:48.19 | HazRPG | EU |
| 07:49.01 | HazRPG | I was about to check the documentation for MaNGOS to see if it was listed in that ^^ |
| 07:49.56 | HazRPG | confirmed, it is my coding *sigh* |
| 07:49.58 | mckenziemc | mmm mangoes |
| 07:50.06 | doom0r | i would suggest refraining from mentioning that here |
| 07:50.10 | HazRPG | must be something wrong if the values are 0 to start off with |
| 07:50.25 | doom0r | even in reference some people get really bent out of shape when you say anything in relation to that subject |
| 07:50.36 | HazRPG | really? |
| 07:51.01 | doom0r | very much |
| 07:52.15 | HazRPG | ah, sure no problem - point taken. |
| 07:52.39 | HazRPG | lol, why were you guys wondering what server I was on? |
| 07:53.03 | Sapu | just playing around about coming to camp you ;) |
| 07:53.15 | HazRPG | ah lol |
| 07:53.30 | HazRPG | I'm sure my guildies would help me out though :P |
| 07:53.39 | HazRPG | also, lvl 50 currently :P |
| 07:53.50 | doom0r | i am my guildies for the last 4 years =\ |
| 07:54.07 | HazRPG | ? |
| 07:54.52 | doom0r | i have the only 2 active accounts in my guild, heh |
| 07:54.57 | Sapu | I'm just in my own personal guild as well |
| 07:55.18 | HazRPG | ah lol |
| 07:55.42 | HazRPG | *scratches head* |
| 07:56.01 | HazRPG | I don't get why having a zero value would up-fsk my code :s |
| 07:56.36 | HazRPG | the code looks good on paper (or shall I say screen) |
| 07:56.47 | mckenziemc | i have 4 personal guilds : / |
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| 07:58.27 | Sapu | have you heard of the rubber duck method of debugging? lol |
| 07:58.38 | mckenziemc | it's okay haz, my code isn't working either : / |
| 07:58.39 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 07:58.58 | Sapu | you buy a rubber duck...put it next to your computer...then explain your code to it until you say something stupid |
| 07:59.52 | mckenziemc | wtf... |
| 08:00.13 | HazRPG | rofl |
| 08:00.35 | Sapu | google uses it apparently...no joke |
| 08:00.41 | Sapu | kinda funny |
| 08:00.51 | HazRPG | I haven't got a rubber duck, but I do have one of those sunshine buddy things which moves his head from side-to-side once charged (using sunrays) |
| 08:01.07 | doom0r | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging |
| 08:01.36 | Sapu | there you go |
| 08:02.15 | HazRPG | ah |
| 08:02.31 | HazRPG | see I technically do that anyway, except without reading it out aloud |
| 08:02.38 | Sapu | yea |
| 08:07.09 | mckenziemc | well i found the source of -one- of the bugs in the program |
| 08:08.16 | mckenziemc | i have a list of channels to monitor for messages -- it was hardcoded into an if statement, but i made a table with the channellist without updating the loop (i knew that part) -- thing is, i changed the table contents |
| 08:08.50 | Repo | 10lightmymacro: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.0.1 LightMyMacro.lua: [+1 commit] Do not choke on LibActionButton buttons. |
| 08:08.56 | Repo | 10lightmymacro: 03Adirelle 04v1.0.1 * d4be494 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.1. |
| 08:08.58 | mckenziemc | and so it didn't apply to the if statement (which is what i meant, not loop) |
| 08:09.16 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6-beta-2-25-g2140fbe Core.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed Bartender4 support. |
| 08:09.18 | mckenziemc | Adirelle: but LibActionButtons are so tasty! |
| 08:10.13 | mckenziemc | ~seen adirelle |
| 08:10.17 | purl | adirelle is currently on #wowace (11h 3m 12s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 6h 45m 38s, last said: 'Hjalte, got it, howver I'm going to sleep now, so just switch back in the meantime'. |
| 08:10.28 | Adirelle | mckenziemc, what ? |
| 08:10.38 | HazRPG | argh, it still looks right... even though I've made a txt file (not saved) and went through the math but replacing the vars with numbers so that I can see what's going on, and it looks right |
| 08:10.44 | HazRPG | it should still be calc it up |
| 08:10.49 | HazRPG | rolling another char lol |
| 08:10.57 | HazRPG | this time with my debug function enabled ^^ |
| 08:11.05 | apejens | is there any tools like firebug for wow? |
| 08:11.20 | apejens | to inspect frames etc? styles, parents, children |
| 08:11.29 | Nobgul | eventtrace |
| 08:11.34 | HazRPG | I always make my own debug functions and make sure I use them through-out my code ^^ |
| 08:11.47 | Nobgul | That's the best way to do it. |
| 08:12.06 | Nobgul | Either write it to a saved var file for later viewing or create your own debug window. |
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| 08:12.42 | HazRPG | its not quite a debug window... but it does display it into the chat panel |
| 08:13.06 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 08:13.21 | mckenziemc | reminds me of the addon i wrote to track the quest ids of the Midsummer fires |
| 08:13.28 | HazRPG | I am in the works of making a debug window however now that I know how to make them ^^ |
| 08:13.59 | apejens | Nobgul: http://www.wowwiki.com/MACRO_eventtrace this? |
| 08:15.02 | Nobgul | apejens, 1 moment ill look |
| 08:15.36 | Nobgul | Aye. Just make sure you run it in the middle of nowhere. |
| 08:15.48 | apejens | aha, ok |
| 08:16.18 | Nobgul | You will catch other people's skill ups etc. But if you run it in a instance its nice to check what's firing in your addons |
| 08:17.13 | apejens | cool, thanks |
| 08:17.19 | Nobgul | Np |
| 08:18.24 | HazRPG | huh! |
| 08:18.49 | HazRPG | apparently when my code runs first time on a lvl 1 char, last_max_xp shows up as being 0 |
| 08:19.03 | Nobgul | Yer |
| 08:19.10 | HazRPG | which should technically be UnitXPMax("player"); |
| 08:19.11 | mckenziemc | ~lmgtfy turing test |
| 08:19.11 | purl | ACTION thinks you should look here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=turing test |
| 08:19.23 | mckenziemc | fail purl, fail |
| 08:19.47 | HazRPG | are you seriously lmgtfy me? lol |
| 08:19.52 | mckenziemc | no |
| 08:19.55 | Nobgul | umm |
| 08:19.56 | mckenziemc | it was for me |
| 08:20.11 | mckenziemc | ~google doesn't seem to work |
| 08:20.14 | Nobgul | ~lmgtfy turing&test |
| 08:20.14 | purl | ACTION thinks you should look here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=turing&test |
| 08:20.21 | HazRPG | ah |
| 08:20.25 | Nobgul | hrmm |
| 08:20.29 | Nobgul | supid bot =P |
| 08:20.42 | HazRPG | why would UnitXPMax("player") return as zero for a new char? |
| 08:20.49 | HazRPG | is it because of the cut-scene at the start? |
| 08:21.00 | mckenziemc | uhm |
| 08:21.13 | mckenziemc | maybe if it's called before PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 08:21.17 | Nobgul | kill a mob then see what it says |
| 08:21.53 | HazRPG | Nobgul: what you mean make a new char, run /eventtrace and see what happens? |
| 08:22.04 | Sapu | '/dump UnitXPMax("player") |
| 08:22.08 | Nobgul | no |
| 08:22.11 | Sapu | try that when you make a new player? |
| 08:22.16 | HazRPG | sure |
| 08:22.22 | Nobgul | That will work also. |
| 08:22.34 | Nobgul | There is also a way to skip the cinimatic at the start. |
| 08:22.45 | Sapu | just hit esc during it or something |
| 08:22.54 | doom0r | there's a variable |
| 08:22.58 | HazRPG | yeah I always do that |
| 08:22.58 | Nobgul | Naw there is something you can do the the wtf to stop it |
| 08:23.00 | doom0r | never shows it |
| 08:23.07 | Nobgul | doom0r, Thats what i mean =P |
| 08:23.10 | mckenziemc | so uhm |
| 08:23.12 | Nobgul | a cvar or something you can set |
| 08:23.21 | mckenziemc | i never knew about /eventtrace till now O.o |
| 08:23.29 | Nobgul | =P |
| 08:23.31 | HazRPG | really? |
| 08:23.31 | Nobgul | its a good one |
| 08:23.39 | HazRPG | gets mentioned in here a lot I've noticed |
| 08:23.56 | Nobgul | Like i said very nice in a lo population area's |
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| 08:24.07 | HazRPG | doing a dump says 400 |
| 08:24.11 | Nobgul | Run it in org or dal and watch it fly by |
| 08:24.23 | Nobgul | So then it seems to be working |
| 08:24.49 | mckenziemc | i would look at the event page on wowwiki, grab all the relevant events, and write a dummy addon with NotesUNeed to track them >< |
| 08:25.44 | Nobgul | I am sure. that normal event's don;t fire because of the cinimatic at the start. |
| 08:25.58 | Nobgul | There is a event that triggers at the end of the cinimatic.... |
| 08:26.18 | HazRPG | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . okay my brain is about to explode! |
| 08:26.26 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 08:26.32 | HazRPG | now last_max_xp shows 900 |
| 08:26.38 | HazRPG | for this new char |
| 08:26.45 | HazRPG | and I still did the cinematic as before |
| 08:27.05 | HazRPG | skilled roughly the same place too |
| 08:27.29 | Nobgul | skilled the same place? |
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| 08:27.45 | HazRPG | skipped* (spelling fail) |
| 08:28.17 | HazRPG | right going to do the same thing again... x.x |
| 08:28.27 | HazRPG | ah wait, hang on a sec |
| 08:28.33 | HazRPG | I just realised my debug is still on too |
| 08:28.52 | HazRPG | (its a global variable) |
| 08:29.01 | HazRPG | or rather a global db variable |
| 08:29.02 | Nobgul | You have fun |
| 08:29.14 | Nobgul | I'm going to pass out |
| 08:29.15 | HazRPG | test = not_fun; |
| 08:29.26 | HazRPG | hey I haven't slept too ya know T_T |
| 08:29.35 | HazRPG | and its 8:30am |
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| 08:29.59 | Nobgul | Well go to sleep and work on the addon later. |
| 08:30.05 | HazRPG | nah |
| 08:30.08 | Nobgul | I have a secret to tell you. |
| 08:30.12 | HazRPG | work best before the sun rises |
| 08:30.25 | Nobgul | WoW isn't going anywhere. It will be there when you wakeup =P |
| 08:30.46 | HazRPG | I barely sleep anyways ^^ |
| 08:43.00 | mckenziemc | silly UTC+0er |
| 08:43.53 | mckenziemc | that's UK and spain right? |
| 08:48.50 | mckenziemc | Nobgul: another way to get spammed by eventtrace -- run it while switching specs |
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| 09:08.25 | HazRPG | fixed - :D |
| 09:09.11 | HazRPG | apparently running UnitXPMax("player") OnInitialize (for ace3 at least), returns 0, but running it OnEnable returns the right value |
| 09:09.53 | HazRPG | how random |
| 09:11.00 | HazRPG | oh yeah, just looking at my .toc |
| 09:11.37 | HazRPG | I've put "OptionalDeps: Ace3", shouldn't I have set that as a dependency instead? |
| 09:12.02 | HazRPG | or would it only be a dependency if I didn't have ace3 embed? |
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| 09:16.07 | mckenziemc1 | s |
| 09:16.13 | HazRPG | wb |
| 09:16.41 | mckenziemc1 | got disconnected, last message i saw was "or would it only be a dependency if i didn't have ace3 embed?" |
| 09:17.27 | mckenziemc1 | if the function didn't work till OnEnable was called, then it sounds like my hunch was right about it not working before PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 09:17.28 | Hati | why it is random oO |
| 09:17.51 | mckenziemc1 | since Ace3 uses that event to determine when to call Enable |
| 09:18.15 | Hati | hmm k |
| 09:18.18 | mckenziemc1 | theres some other stuff that you can't check till after PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 09:18.58 | HazRPG | so I'm finding out |
| 09:19.22 | mckenziemc1 | as for Ace3, if you embed it, keep it in OptDeps and also make another line in your toc that says ## X-Embeds: Ace3 |
| 09:19.38 | HazRPG | right, anyways, as far as dependencies goes, is Ace3 a dependency or is it optional when you have it embedded into the addon folder |
| 09:20.10 | HazRPG | heh, yeah I do have that ^^ |
| 09:20.17 | Arrowmaster | mckenziemc: X-Embeds is deprecated |
| 09:20.23 | Hati | http://www.wowpedia.org/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
| 09:20.28 | HazRPG | good stuff, just making sure I have things down right |
| 09:20.33 | mckenziemc | if you made it a hard dependency, the wow client would refuse to load your addon unless Ace3 was installed separately |
| 09:20.35 | HazRPG | *feels proud of his work so far :)* |
| 09:20.43 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster: what should we use instead |
| 09:20.50 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 09:21.00 | mckenziemc | that breaks things then |
| 09:21.05 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 09:21.19 | Arrowmaster | there is no replacement for X-Embeds because its useless |
| 09:21.27 | mckenziemc | addons can't read OptionalDependencies, and so X-Embeds is necessary for no-lib addons |
| 09:21.36 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:21.57 | Arrowmaster | nothing breaks |
| 09:22.22 | mckenziemc | look at Addon Control Panel, when you enable one addon it checks if anything listed in X-Embeds is available as a seperate addon, and enables those too |
| 09:22.29 | mckenziemc | yes, it does |
| 09:22.41 | mckenziemc | install a no-lib addon |
| 09:22.43 | Arrowmaster | thats an optional feature of one addon |
| 09:23.16 | Arrowmaster | and there are only a handful of addons that still have X-Embeds in their toc anyway |
| 09:23.21 | mckenziemc | it's necessary for a practical, functional no-lib setup (referring to all addons) |
| 09:23.25 | Repo | 10splititems-otf: 03xhatix * r7 main.lua: |
| 09:23.26 | Repo | fix: using shift+buy on items caused the amount you buyed shown always. |
| 09:23.43 | Repo | 10splititems-otf: 03xhatix 04r8-release * r8 : Tagging as r8-release |
| 09:23.50 | mckenziemc | who deprecated it |
| 09:23.54 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 09:24.03 | Arrowmaster | along with lots of others |
| 09:24.19 | Arrowmaster | the only reason it existed was for the old WAU client |
| 09:24.32 | Shirik | (04:21:14) (mckenziemc) addons can't read OptionalDependencies, and so X-Embeds is necessary for no-lib addons |
| 09:24.34 | Shirik | What are you talking about |
| 09:24.43 | Shirik | sure they can |
| 09:24.48 | mckenziemc | unless its' changed |
| 09:24.49 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: actually they cant |
| 09:24.52 | Shirik | what? |
| 09:25.10 | mckenziemc | they can read normal deps, but not optdeps |
| 09:25.21 | Shirik | has anyone ever asked if this is a bug? |
| 09:25.29 | mckenziemc | could be |
| 09:25.31 | Arrowmaster | dont know |
| 09:25.43 | mckenziemc | i know LoadManager is not readable either |
| 09:26.40 | Arrowmaster | theres only been one situation where ive ever managed to get blizz to acknowledge a bug and fix it |
| 09:27.21 | Arrowmaster | and that was during a beta when i found something that almost broke the client |
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| 09:28.22 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster: unless we get another way to do it (there actually is a better way that's not available that i mentioned to torhal), X-Embeds or some X- equivalent is needed to support no-lib packaging as a feasible option for users |
| 09:28.51 | mckenziemc | which actually it isn't, but making it worse obviously won't help :p |
| 09:28.55 | Arrowmaster | like i said there is only one thing that uses X-Embeds and that is ACP |
| 09:29.18 | mckenziemc | and the addon i'm writing, DependencyLoader |
| 09:29.35 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 09:29.56 | Arrowmaster | its a useless feature of ACP anyway |
| 09:29.57 | mckenziemc | because it's extremely important for no-lib addons |
| 09:30.10 | mckenziemc | do you use no-lib packaging? |
| 09:30.33 | mckenziemc | in the addons you use, not necessarily the ones you write |
| 09:30.33 | Arrowmaster | libs are set to load on demand so if no addon uses them they dont load, if an addon uses them and has it listed in OptDeps the lib gets loaded |
| 09:31.04 | Arrowmaster | when i played wow yes i used the equivalent of 'no-lib' |
| 09:31.14 | mckenziemc | except that if the lib is not installed at all, you get odd errors |
| 09:31.54 | mckenziemc | if no-lib was the only version, the libraries could be listed as hard-embeds |
| 09:32.07 | mckenziemc | err |
| 09:32.12 | mckenziemc | hard dependencies |
| 09:32.30 | Arrowmaster | how does this relate to X-Embeds? you still get errors |
| 09:32.34 | mckenziemc | and the client would tell the user at the addon select screen what was missing |
| 09:33.18 | mckenziemc | second, let me recollect, i think i actually went off on the wrong tangent >< |
| 09:33.54 | mckenziemc | oh yeah that's what i'm missing |
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| 09:34.22 | mckenziemc | even if a lib is listed as an opt-dep, it won't load unless it's enabled |
| 09:34.41 | Arrowmaster | why would you disable it? |
| 09:34.43 | HazRPG | >_< |
| 09:35.07 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: thanks for the edit =) |
| 09:35.08 | mckenziemc | if you change addon sets all the time |
| 09:35.19 | Repo | 10sexyreputation: 03dhedbor * r3 / (3 files in 2 directories): We've got bars. |
| 09:35.22 | Arrowmaster | you dont need to disable any libs |
| 09:35.33 | mckenziemc | you're not gonna want to change things all the time |
| 09:35.49 | mckenziemc | some libs -aren't- load on demand |
| 09:36.09 | Arrowmaster | if they are marked load on demand like they should be then if they are enabled but nothing enabled optdeps them they wont load |
| 09:36.19 | Arrowmaster | which ones arent? |
| 09:36.30 | mckenziemc | also, i disable things all the time, when i'm going to a limited set for testing |
| 09:36.36 | mckenziemc | here let me look at my set |
| 09:37.20 | HazRPG | >_< I just realised my addon is 30MB zipped! |
| 09:38.27 | Arrowmaster | how much media files do you have in it? |
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| 09:40.11 | HazRPG | 13 lol |
| 09:40.18 | HazRPG | 13 mp3's |
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| 09:43.59 | mckenziemc | ace2 ace3 AGSMW LibAbacus-3.0 LibActionButton-1.0 LibBanzai-2.0 LibBars-1.0 LibBetterBlizOptions LibCrayon-3.0 LibDataBrokerIcon-1.0 LibFubarPlugin-3.0 LibHealComm-4.0 LibKeyBoundExtra-1.0 LibQuixote-2.0 LibRock-1.0 LibStub LibTipHooker-1.1 LibVersionCheck-1.0 LibHealCommWrapper-1.0 LibStatFrameLib-1.0 |
| 09:44.08 | mckenziemc | granted some of these are obsolete |
| 09:47.29 | Arrowmaster | i guess LibFubarPlugin-3.0 got forgotten when the LoD bug got fixed |
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| 10:00.49 | mckenziemc | ~dvorak2 |
| 10:00.49 | purl | is better than QWERTY |
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| 10:06.45 | mckenziemc | purl++ |
| 10:08.03 | HazRPG | so far 2 people are liking my addon :) |
| 10:08.08 | HazRPG | out of 2 :) |
| 10:08.17 | HazRPG | *smugface* |
| 10:08.18 | mckenziemc | upload it to curseforge |
| 10:08.25 | mckenziemc | i bet more will like it :p |
| 10:08.33 | HazRPG | its 30MB currently |
| 10:08.50 | mckenziemc | traceroute mckenziemc.dyndns.org |
| 10:08.52 | HazRPG | and I'm not sure about uploading an addon with music will go down well ^^ |
| 10:09.04 | HazRPG | somehow I don't think you meant to place it there |
| 10:09.30 | mckenziemc | i did, was checking if purl would respond -- i forgot the ~ |
| 10:09.40 | HazRPG | heh |
| 10:09.43 | mckenziemc | ~traceroute mckenziemc.dyndns.org |
| 10:09.43 | purl | traceroute to mckenziemc.dyndns.org (mckenziemc.dyndns.org), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets |
| 10:10.55 | mckenziemc | dunno why it didn't do anything else >< |
| 10:12.09 | mckenziemc | die If the bot owner (+O, Owner) says this or messages it to the bot, it will kill itself. |
| 10:13.01 | mckenziemc | ~slashdot |
| 10:13.54 | mckenziemc | oh, maybe this will work |
| 10:13.58 | mckenziemc | ~google for aoeu |
| 10:14.07 | mckenziemc | dang |
| 10:14.21 | mckenziemc | purl, search google for aoeu |
| 10:14.25 | HazRPG | would there be issues having mp3's in my addon on curse or curseforge? |
| 10:14.33 | mckenziemc | i don't know |
| 10:14.37 | HazRPG | since non of them are made by me |
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| 10:14.56 | mckenziemc | i don't think that would be allowed, assuming they're covered by copyright |
| 10:15.22 | mckenziemc | but ya'know, you could always move them to a separate plugin, and keep that part private :p |
| 10:15.29 | HazRPG | Hmm, how bout if it stated the copyrights of the original artists n stuff ya reckon? |
| 10:15.39 | mckenziemc | purl, why do you hate me? |
| 10:15.40 | purl | why not? |
| 10:15.45 | mckenziemc | idk what the policy is |
| 10:15.54 | mckenziemc | hugs purl |
| 10:18.21 | mckenziemc | ~status |
| 10:18.21 | purl | Since Sun Nov 28 06:05:11 2010, there have been 21 modifications, 380 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 267 commands. I have been awake for 6d 4h 13m 10s this session, and currently reference 117508 factoids. I'm using about 35344 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 208.24/1717.63 child 0/0 |
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| 10:18.55 | mckenziemc | 0 morons? O.o |
| 10:26.32 | Slayman1 | ~moron |
| 10:26.32 | purl | hmm... moron is someone that types long lines starting with "purl" |
| 10:27.03 | mckenziemc | purl, oaesuthaosetnuh saonethu satnoehu stnahoes thaeousnt aeohusntaho eusntahoe usntaoehusnthaoeusntaheo sutna hoeusnth aoesunth aoesntuh saonethu snatoheu sntaohe usnthaoe sutnhaoseu nthsaonethu santohe usntahoe usnthaoe sunth aosetnh usanote usntaoeh usntaeohu sntaohe ustnahoe usntahoeu sntaoehu santoehu stnaoeh usatonehu saonteh u |
| 10:27.31 | Slayman1 | ~status |
| 10:27.31 | purl | Since Sun Nov 28 06:05:11 2010, there have been 21 modifications, 381 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 267 commands. I have been awake for 6d 4h 22m 20s this session, and currently reference 117508 factoids. I'm using about 35344 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 208.24/1718.82 child 0/0 |
| 10:27.42 | Slayman1 | try harder |
| 10:27.45 | mckenziemc | : ( |
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| 10:37.45 | mckenziemc | grr darn LoadManager bug |
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| 10:52.31 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3106 LootTableModules/Cataclysm/cataclysm.lua: cata raid update |
| 10:56.55 | HazRPG | does GetMoney() just return the value in copper? |
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| 11:00.55 | mckenziemc | !help |
| 11:01.05 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 11:01.11 | CrazyBenny | yep, it does |
| 11:01.12 | HazRPG | ? |
| 11:01.16 | HazRPG | oh, thanks :) |
| 11:01.36 | mckenziemc | !triggers |
| 11:02.23 | mckenziemc | i'm trying to learn all the bot triggers by trial and error |
| 11:02.46 | HazRPG | !commands |
| 11:02.56 | HazRPG | !? |
| 11:03.01 | HazRPG | !help |
| 11:03.08 | HazRPG | none of those worked lol |
| 11:03.14 | HazRPG | ~help |
| 11:03.24 | HazRPG | that worked ;) |
| 11:03.34 | HazRPG | list of lovely commands popped up in a PM |
| 11:04.15 | HazRPG | try it |
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| 11:11.38 | Caleb| | you know you can just msg purl for all your spammy needs, right? |
| 11:11.59 | HazRPG | yup |
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| 11:16.15 | HazRPG | does % work in lua to give you the remainder of a calculation? |
| 11:16.33 | HazRPG | actually, I'll google it |
| 11:16.41 | Hati | mod yes |
| 11:16.43 | Hati | works |
| 11:17.08 | Yoshimo | did blizzard give an update about 4.0 compatible languagepacks? |
| 11:20.05 | HazRPG | so, silver = number%10000/100 would work right (in theory) |
| 11:21.39 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/project-acceptance-policy/ by Torhal |
| 11:27.04 | CrazyBenny | HazRPG: silver = (GetMoney() / 100) % 100 |
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| 11:29.49 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexyreputation/. Sexy Reputation. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 11:29.58 | sbu | hmhhhh |
| 11:30.04 | sbu | my CE got dispatched this morning, COULD be fine for mondayish delivery |
| 11:30.10 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_visualhelpers/. PitBull4_VisualHelpers. fammy2k (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 11:30.15 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_healthflash/. PitBull4_HealthFlash. fammy2k (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 11:30.48 | HazRPG | CrazyBenny: here when I said number it was just a place holder but yeah I would have added the brackets obv |
| 11:31.41 | HazRPG | would that get affected by negative values do you think? |
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| 11:45.47 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3107 / (2 files in 2 directories): - little Dire Maul & LBRS updates |
| 11:47.00 | mckenziemc | HazRPG: i already knew purl's help command, was trying to get lua_bot's |
| 11:49.39 | jnwhiteh | mckenziemc: lua_bot doesn't have one |
| 11:49.47 | jnwhiteh | it supports lua> !addon and !api basically |
| 11:50.23 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3108 LootTableModules/ClassicWoW/classicwow.lua: - little fix |
| 11:52.14 | mckenziemc | !addon Recount |
| 11:52.16 | lua_bot | Recount (v. 81954) last updated Sep 22 2008</td><td valign=top class=listone style="font-size: 10px;"> (http://is.gd/ibI87) |
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| 11:59.57 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r113 / (3 files in 2 directories): Scarabs mounts are usable in AQ40 again; turn them back on. |
| 12:01.21 | mckenziemc | @describe pokedex |
| 12:01.23 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pokedex/. Pokedex. mount and companion manager |
| 12:02.06 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil 04v3.3.24 * r114 : Tagging as Release v3.3.24 |
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| 12:29.31 | Repo | 10libprint (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r6 LibPrint (4 files in 1 directory): removed the duplicate NewStream definition |
| 12:29.32 | Repo | fixed some coding mistakes |
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| 12:37.54 | Caleb| | @describe libprint |
| 12:37.55 | Repo | Caleb|: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libprint/. LibPrint. Implements advanced features for addon output to the console. |
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| 12:57.05 | Repo | 10libfail-2-0 (experimental): 03Maat * r9 LibFail-2.0.lua: some localization and failType fix |
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| 13:19.38 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic-2 (experimental): 03Silmano 04a009 * d060ca2 /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
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| 13:23.23 | Znuff | Hi. |
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| 13:32.55 | Repo | 10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r45 / (4 files in 1 directory): - better icon |
| 13:32.56 | Repo | - configurable date format |
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| 13:57.17 | Repo | 10shinystats: 03Xiiph * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added deDE localization thanks to X-buZZ |
| 14:01.05 | HazRPG | is there a way to stop lua from causing this: gold = m / 100 / 100; to produce a floating point value? |
| 14:01.33 | HazRPG | where m is GetMoney(); |
| 14:01.58 | arkanes | no, lua doesn't distinguish between floats and ints |
| 14:02.06 | arkanes | but you can round or truncate it |
| 14:02.36 | HazRPG | on wowwiki I noticed this: /script local copper = GetMoney(); print(("I have %dg %ds %dc"):format(copper / 100 / 100, (copper / 100) % 100, copper % 100)); |
| 14:02.45 | HazRPG | and that doesn't show floating numbers |
| 14:02.52 | arkanes | thats formatting |
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| 14:03.34 | HazRPG | obviously I added the /script part and made it one line so that I could test it :P |
| 14:04.05 | HazRPG | ah right |
| 14:04.20 | HazRPG | see I'm trying to format it myself so that it has the in-game gold icon, etc |
| 14:04.31 | HazRPG | so you say truncate or round works huh? |
| 14:04.35 | HazRPG | I'll try and google that |
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| 14:12.02 | evl | Yay! I made it before expanson :) |
| 14:12.03 | evl | http://internetfriendsforever.com/screenshots/027a938aaf7383b1861aadf845187019.png |
| 14:12.21 | HazRPG | ? |
| 14:13.14 | evl | 100k! gold |
| 14:13.23 | HazRPG | ahhh |
| 14:13.27 | HazRPG | hehe gratz :P |
| 14:13.42 | HazRPG | (I originally thought you meant the items in your bag) |
| 14:13.53 | Znuff | psst, junior league :P |
| 14:14.02 | HazRPG | :P |
| 14:14.39 | evl | Znuff: well it was 3k 3 months ago |
| 14:14.47 | Znuff | oh, good for you :-) |
| 14:14.57 | evl | better than Bernanke |
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| 14:20.25 | Repo | 10splititems-otf-merchant: 03xhatix * r3 main.lua: |
| 14:20.26 | Repo | Update: Cursor-text should now only be updated if necessary ... not all time |
| 14:20.34 | Repo | 10splititems-otf: 03xhatix * r9 main.lua: |
| 14:20.35 | Repo | Update: Cursor-text should now only be updated if necessary ... not all time |
| 14:20.52 | Repo | 10splititems-otf: 03xhatix 04r10-release * r10 : Tagging as r10-release |
| 14:21.08 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r47 WeakAuras.lua: |
| 14:21.09 | Repo | Fixed a bug which caused the cooldown tracker system to abuse AceTimer-3.0 worse than a gnome with a "Punt Me" sign on his back. |
| 14:21.10 | Repo | Fixed a bug which caused the cooldown tracker frame to be recreated for every registered spell. |
| 14:21.42 | Repo | 10splititems-otf-merchant: 03xhatix 04r4-release * r4 : Tagging as r4-release |
| 14:22.08 | Mirrormn | That was a bad set of bugs =S |
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| 14:24.27 | Elkano | abuse or just misuse? |
| 14:24.37 | Mirrormn | eh |
| 14:24.51 | Mirrormn | I guess I'd say... poor use |
| 14:24.57 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 14:25.13 | Elkano | I only wondered how to abuse AceTimer ^^ |
| 14:25.33 | Mirrormn | basically it was furiously recreating timers that would go off at the same time and perform the same callback |
| 14:25.53 | Mirrormn | to the point where it would cause a memory allocation error within 2-3 minutes of casting |
| 14:27.24 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn 041.2.6 * r48 : Tagging as 1.2.6 |
| 14:27.25 | Repo | Critical performance update. |
| 14:27.26 | Repo | Fixed two major performance issues with cooldown tracking. Thanks CommanderSirow! |
| 14:27.56 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3109 LootTableModules/ClassicWoW/classicwow.lua: - removed Questitem |
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| 14:47.50 | Megalon | Fisker http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/ |
| 14:47.57 | Megalon | he really likes to look at things |
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| 14:50.29 | Megalon | have to wear shades |
| 14:50.33 | Megalon | with a future so bright |
| 14:53.18 | arkanes | he just doesnt want everyone to know hes stoned |
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| 14:55.33 | HazRPG | hmm I'm having no joy managing to round up the figures properly :( |
| 14:55.57 | HazRPG | I feel like I'm about to pull my hair out lol |
| 14:56.47 | Hati | ?? |
| 14:57.19 | Hati | what are you trying ? |
| 14:57.55 | HazRPG | trying to convert copper into gold/silver/copper but using UI Escape stuff too |
| 14:58.34 | HazRPG | I mean the math is right, it just keeps presenting the remainders |
| 14:58.52 | Caleb| | tried math.ceil ? |
| 14:59.02 | Hati | t = format("%.0f",t) |
| 14:59.03 | HazRPG | so tried rounding up/down (math.floor math.ceil) no joy |
| 14:59.25 | Hati | lua> string.format("%.0f",1.000001) |
| 14:59.26 | lua_bot | Hati: 1 |
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| 15:00.39 | HazRPG | lua> string.format("%.0f, 1.505) |
| 15:00.40 | lua_bot | HazRPG: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 15:00.52 | Hati | missing " |
| 15:00.57 | HazRPG | yeah noticed heh |
| 15:01.32 | HazRPG | lua> string.format("%.0f", 1.505) |
| 15:01.32 | lua_bot | HazRPG: 2 |
| 15:01.56 | HazRPG | hmmm, what that wouldn't be right though |
| 15:02.01 | HazRPG | wait* |
| 15:02.43 | Hati | lua> string.format("%d.0f",1.000001) |
| 15:02.43 | lua_bot | Hati: 1.0f |
| 15:03.00 | Slayman1 | bibi at ackis place fo' real? |
| 15:03.25 | Hati | lua> string.format("%i",1.505) |
| 15:03.26 | lua_bot | Hati: 1 |
| 15:07.29 | Hati | lua> local tc = 15050; string.format("%ig %is %ic", tc/10000,(tc/100%100), (tc%100)) |
| 15:07.30 | lua_bot | Hati: No output |
| 15:07.40 | Hati | lua> local tc = 15050; return string.format("%ig %is %ic", tc/10000,(tc/100%100), (tc%100)) |
| 15:07.40 | lua_bot | Hati: 1g 50s 50c |
| 15:08.19 | Fisker | btw what the fucking fuckity fuck fuck Megalon |
| 15:12.02 | HazRPG | ah but what would happen if that was a negative number? |
| 15:12.11 | HazRPG | lua> local tc = -15050; return string.format("%ig %is %ic", tc/10000,(tc/100%100), (tc%100)) |
| 15:12.11 | lua_bot | HazRPG: -1g 49s 50c |
| 15:12.18 | HazRPG | see my issue |
| 15:12.27 | HazRPG | that's where I'm pulling hairs |
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| 15:13.24 | Mirrormn | yeah I have negative gold all the time |
| 15:13.27 | Mirrormn | that would suck |
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| 15:13.50 | HazRPG | no, ofc a character can never have a negative number... but however a tracker would |
| 15:14.04 | HazRPG | you repair... your producing a negative value |
| 15:14.08 | HazRPG | you* |
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| 15:14.45 | HazRPG | I want to be able to see that negative |
| 15:14.46 | Mirrormn | in that case I would probably test for the negative value, change the number to positive, and then display it in a different color |
| 15:15.06 | Mirrormn | and possibly change some other text in the UI |
| 15:15.30 | HazRPG | huh... never thought of it that way |
| 15:16.25 | HazRPG | actually, how would I auto-magically change it to a positive number though |
| 15:16.47 | Hati | just put abs in front of local tc |
| 15:16.59 | Mirrormn | local temp; if(number < 0) then temp = number * -1 end |
| 15:17.05 | Mirrormn | or abs |
| 15:17.08 | Hati | lua> abs(-1) |
| 15:17.08 | lua_bot | Hati: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'abs' (a nil value) |
| 15:17.14 | Hati | lua> math.abs(-1) |
| 15:17.15 | lua_bot | Hati: 1 |
| 15:17.16 | Hati | doh |
| 15:17.24 | Mirrormn | abs is a wow-defined shortcut to math.abs ^_^ |
| 15:17.32 | Mirrormn | by the way |
| 15:17.49 | Mirrormn | lua> local tc = -15050; return string.format("%ig %is %ic", tc/10000,(math.abs(tc)/100%100), (math.abs(tc)%100)) |
| 15:17.50 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: -1g 50s 50c |
| 15:17.57 | Fisker | double wat Megalon |
| 15:18.39 | Hati | you would just to have to do it once mirrorm |
| 15:18.41 | Hati | for gold only |
| 15:18.45 | Hati | % already do abs |
| 15:18.50 | Hati | in a like way |
| 15:19.16 | HazRPG | yeah I was just about to say that |
| 15:19.26 | Mirrormn | mm, yes |
| 15:19.47 | HazRPG | since % is giving the remainder of a division |
| 15:19.48 | Mirrormn | putting it only on the silver value would be sufficient |
| 15:20.18 | HazRPG | gold* surely |
| 15:20.29 | Mirrormn | hmmm? |
| 15:20.33 | Mirrormn | if you put it on the gold too |
| 15:20.40 | Mirrormn | then it doesn't display negative |
| 15:20.44 | Mirrormn | that defeats the whole point |
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| 15:21.46 | HazRPG | ah wait, I think I get where this is headed |
| 15:21.51 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 15:22.00 | Mirrormn | I was fixing the rounding error you demonstrated |
| 15:22.17 | HazRPG | indeed (just tested it the other way round in a PM to lua_bot) |
| 15:22.33 | HazRPG | fantastic |
| 15:23.05 | HazRPG | has just gained + 1 to lua knowledge |
| 15:23.30 | HazRPG | man, lua is sooooo different from what I know of programming |
| 15:23.43 | HazRPG | brings me back to the days of VB6 :/ |
| 15:24.09 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: you're a legend |
| 15:24.33 | Mirrormn | yeah I'm basically the best coder in all of the world |
| 15:24.52 | HazRPG | (so adding you to my credits :) - Hati too) |
| 15:24.59 | HazRPG | sooo* |
| 15:25.03 | Mirrormn | what are you making anyway? |
| 15:25.14 | HazRPG | always gives credit, where credit is due |
| 15:25.24 | HazRPG | making myself a tracker addon |
| 15:25.36 | HazRPG | to go with my wow music experience addon |
| 15:26.40 | HazRPG | my wow music experience I mean, is done by adding music where music should have been placed |
| 15:27.06 | HazRPG | wow is still an RPG after all, and I feel it misses those qualities that made RPG's fun (in a sense) |
| 15:27.54 | HazRPG | I've also tacked on an XP tracker and a now a gold tracker |
| 15:28.18 | Mirrormn | so basically it provides additional soundtrack? |
| 15:28.19 | HazRPG | doesn't know what's going on with his spelling today... too much coding I guess. |
| 15:28.28 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: pretty much |
| 15:28.32 | Mirrormn | neat |
| 15:28.37 | HazRPG | that's the main part at least |
| 15:28.46 | Mirrormn | what would be really cool |
| 15:28.48 | HazRPG | simple coding wise, but effective |
| 15:29.07 | Mirrormn | is if you could do one of those like Wind Waker or Super Mario Galaxy 2 type things |
| 15:29.13 | Hati | Is WoW by the way still only supporting dual-cores ? |
| 15:29.16 | Hati | or also quad ? |
| 15:29.39 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: how do you mean? |
| 15:29.41 | profalbert | theoretically they support it |
| 15:29.49 | Mirrormn | where you provide not only a backing track, but also an algorithm that can produce tones at arbitrary times that fit with the backing track |
| 15:30.07 | HazRPG | didn't realise others had done it too, but then again this is the internet after all - one man's idea, might already have been done |
| 15:30.33 | Mirrormn | for example, in wind waker, when in combat, it would play combat music |
| 15:30.55 | Mirrormn | and whenever you struck with your sword, it would play sound that was harmonically congruent with the music |
| 15:31.12 | HazRPG | ah man |
| 15:31.21 | Mirrormn | very cool stuff |
| 15:31.25 | HazRPG | I thought mine was unique with the whole battle music thing ^^ |
| 15:31.31 | Mirrormn | I dunno if you'd even be able to do it in WoW, though |
| 15:31.56 | HazRPG | oh wait, you mean the actual games ha |
| 15:32.10 | HazRPG | I thought you meant addons had been made for wow to do such jobs |
| 15:32.11 | Mirrormn | yeah |
| 15:32.14 | Mirrormn | no sir |
| 15:32.46 | Mirrormn | although I do find it safe to hold a general assumption that any time you have an idea to do something, someone else has already done it |
| 15:32.48 | HazRPG | scores himself an achievement, "In before the crowd!" |
| 15:33.14 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: heh, usually the case |
| 15:33.37 | HazRPG | so far, people who's helped me test my addon has liked it |
| 15:33.59 | HazRPG | the only thing is I made the music part before the patch which killed it |
| 15:34.11 | HazRPG | or killed how PlayMusic worked |
| 15:34.24 | HazRPG | now it just kills the song dead, instead of just easing it out :( |
| 15:34.38 | HazRPG | think it was 2.3? |
| 15:35.15 | HazRPG | back then I hadn't shown anyone it, and then quit wow not long after WotLK, so never really finished it |
| 15:35.51 | HazRPG | so I've spent the last few days or so fixing the many errors that strung up from the vast amount of changes |
| 15:36.24 | HazRPG | still hate the fact that music is just cut dead in an instant and not faded out |
| 15:38.11 | HazRPG | but so far, I have Auction House music - for those dull copious amounts of time sat in front of it... trade music, when trading... battle music (dependant on type of mob, e.g. normal, rare, elite, rare elite, etc) |
| 15:38.40 | HazRPG | a nice little nap chime that plays when you enter rested areas |
| 15:39.08 | HazRPG | so far that's all I have |
| 15:39.15 | HazRPG | but its good stuff |
| 15:39.56 | HazRPG | looking away from the screen while in an area of mobs has never been so much fun (an alerting) when you hit combat for whatever reason ^^ |
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| 15:40.29 | HazRPG | like I said, trying to get some tracker info in now |
| 15:41.06 | HazRPG | I want to be able to know how much XP I've gained since I last reset the tracker (e.g. reset before hitting an instance or doing some questing, etc) |
| 15:41.13 | HazRPG | got that nailed down |
| 15:41.21 | HazRPG | now doing one for money |
| 15:41.33 | HazRPG | so that I know if I've put myself in a loss or gain from doing various things |
| 15:41.59 | HazRPG | stuff probably exists, but you have more freedom with the style and how it appears when you code it yourself :P |
| 15:42.35 | HazRPG | says sorry for spamming the chat up ^^ |
| 15:42.41 | HazRPG | I'll shush now |
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| 15:47.23 | kagaro | anyone here play on US Ysera? |
| 15:47.24 | Slayman1 | restores 96000 mana over 30 secounds wtf? |
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| 15:52.28 | Mirrormn | nothin wrong with that |
| 15:59.17 | Slayman1 | that is a LOT of mana to restore, so int will get srsly crazy at 85 huh? well spell costs will as well |
| 16:03.29 | Megalon | 96000mana over 30s won't even give you a full pool :P |
| 16:04.02 | Slayman1 | Megalon: oh it will, overflowingly even! |
| 16:04.16 | Slayman1 | because I'm a feral drood or protpala :P |
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| 16:04.33 | Mirrormn | iirc I had like 60,000 mana with a premade mage |
| 16:05.15 | Mirrormn | which means people will probably start pushing 100k by the end of the expansion, I'd guess |
| 16:05.27 | Mirrormn | actually probably more than that |
| 16:05.35 | Mirrormn | since int = spellpower |
| 16:06.19 | Slayman1 | the first tier of raif gear moves you to 100k mana already if you're buffe |
| 16:06.50 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 16:06.53 | Fisker | fuck you |
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| 16:10.08 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 16:10.10 | Fisker | answer me |
| 16:10.11 | Fisker | OR DIE |
| 16:10.21 | Megalon | dieing |
| 16:10.37 | Megalon | a choice to remember |
| 16:10.40 | Megalon | when talking with you Fisker |
| 16:10.44 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 16:10.48 | Hati | woot |
| 16:10.51 | Fisker | proxy hatchery |
| 16:10.53 | Fisker | i wat'd |
| 16:10.55 | Hati | gamon has charge |
| 16:10.56 | Megalon | nice strat |
| 16:11.12 | Fisker | i actually dreamt about someone trying to sneak a hatchery inside the enemy base |
| 16:11.16 | Fisker | then going "surprise cockfags" |
| 16:11.21 | Fisker | though he might've noticed the creep |
| 16:11.37 | Fisker | i'm pwning n00bs btw Megalon |
| 16:11.40 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/999290396?page=1 |
| 16:12.05 | Megalon | you tried the goatbuild? ;x |
| 16:12.17 | Fisker | don't know about it |
| 16:12.20 | Fisker | just dreamt about it |
| 16:13.09 | Megalon | kk :P |
| 16:13.14 | Megalon | proxyhatching |
| 16:13.28 | Megalon | remembers me when they trolled jason lee with questions on gom |
| 16:13.29 | Megalon | :7 |
| 16:14.08 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/999290396?page=2#26 <-this should almost be bannable |
| 16:16.49 | Megalon | hä, wtf are they talking |
| 16:16.56 | Megalon | seems I don't get the thread |
| 16:17.09 | Fisker | The game is being sold early |
| 16:17.13 | nebula169 | i'm also confused |
| 16:17.15 | Megalon | order at amazon, get hardcopy delivered the day BEFORE release |
| 16:17.21 | Fisker | And now they're claiming it's false advertising, etc. because they paid more than in a store |
| 16:17.41 | Megalon | digital download was and will always be a rip-off |
| 16:17.48 | nebula169 | howso? |
| 16:18.02 | Megalon | you pay more for getting less |
| 16:18.10 | nebula169 | ah, the price is the same in the US |
| 16:18.20 | Fisker | i've been trying to explain that "Playing the game an arbitrary amount of time before someone else buying the game in retail" was not advertised |
| 16:18.21 | Megalon | oh? |
| 16:18.53 | Fisker | you don't technically pay more for the digital copies |
| 16:18.59 | Fisker | you just pay less for the retail copies |
| 16:19.03 | Fisker | (except in the US apparently) |
| 16:19.08 | Megalon | ah k |
| 16:19.13 | Megalon | just rememberd with sc2 |
| 16:19.18 | Megalon | digital dl 60€ |
| 16:19.23 | Megalon | amazon 37€ |
| 16:19.24 | Megalon | lolz |
| 16:19.25 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:19.30 | Fisker | the retail MSRP was still 60€ |
| 16:19.46 | Fisker | so basically amazon "should've" sold it for 60€ as well |
| 16:19.54 | Fisker | (obviously it shouldn't have due to competition rules, etc) |
| 16:20.01 | Megalon | yea, but they kinda had a little pricefight |
| 16:20.05 | Megalon | the days before release |
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| 16:20.30 | Megalon | I like it when they sell games |
| 16:20.33 | Megalon | for the actual prize |
| 16:20.35 | Megalon | and not |
| 16:20.40 | Fisker | price btw |
| 16:20.52 | Megalon | :7 |
| 16:21.00 | Fisker | anyway retailers are trying to declare digital distribution the cancer that's killing gaming etc. |
| 16:21.32 | Megalon | idiocy is the cancer killing almost everything |
| 16:21.33 | Fisker | So it's pretty much "You will set the price of that game for x€ and we'll sell it for 20€ less or we'll fuck you up" |
| 16:21.38 | Mirrormn | it may be the cancer that's killing non-digital distributors |
| 16:21.43 | Fisker | can't wait to see retail die out |
| 16:21.51 | Mirrormn | but that's about it |
| 16:21.52 | Megalon | it is like |
| 16:21.52 | Fisker | then we might see a drop in prices á la what we did with music numbers |
| 16:22.01 | Megalon | dunning-kruger at a corporate level |
| 16:22.25 | Megalon | get russia into EU |
| 16:22.28 | Megalon | hi@R5 |
| 16:22.30 | Megalon | ;o |
| 16:23.41 | Slayman1 | they are srsly linking to wowhead from the new armory, that's I don't know of it's good or bad |
| 16:24.01 | Fisker | i don't like it |
| 16:25.08 | Megalon | it's not like they couldn't do it themselves |
| 16:25.14 | Megalon | perhaps they ain't got all the data |
| 16:25.16 | Megalon | herp derp |
| 16:26.31 | nebula169 | (1) BAM - WoW Digital Upgrade - $39.99 ah whew, I was right, started to doubt myself |
| 16:27.30 | sbu | Megalon: your delivery service ("post") better be good! :p |
| 16:27.50 | Megalon | because? |
| 16:28.13 | Fisker | BAM nebula169 |
| 16:28.17 | sbu | becaues i want to have my CE before launch |
| 16:28.43 | sbu | ordered from gameware (.at!!) :p |
| 16:28.46 | Megalon | what does the austrian delivery system have to do |
| 16:29.03 | Megalon | oh well |
| 16:29.24 | Megalon | if it snows in germany |
| 16:29.33 | Megalon | you won't get it before christmas |
| 16:29.47 | Megalon | germany and UK are so lulz |
| 16:29.53 | sbu | mh? |
| 16:29.58 | Megalon | every year the have a snow chaos |
| 16:30.07 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: dude, I have a question for ya since you already know what the situation is |
| 16:30.09 | Megalon | if they could only know beforehand |
| 16:30.14 | Megalon | when this snow thing happens |
| 16:30.21 | Mirrormn | hmmm? |
| 16:30.33 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: cool your still here |
| 16:31.21 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: on that function you constructed earlier, it doesn't work for silver when that's a negative number |
| 16:31.38 | HazRPG | it still knows its negative, it just doesn't display it thusly |
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| 16:32.02 | Mirrormn | oh |
| 16:32.05 | Mirrormn | yeah it wouldn't |
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| 16:32.29 | sbu | Megalon: amazon/DHL did a nice job last week, so *shrug* |
| 16:32.43 | HazRPG | I just gave my mate a copy of it, and told him to try and break it - he's good at doing that :P |
| 16:32.55 | Mirrormn | well if you *really* wanted to keep it in a single line |
| 16:33.18 | HazRPG | and he said "dude I broke it! It knows it has a negative number, but doesn't seem to show it unless its gold" |
| 16:33.29 | Mirrormn | lua> local tc = -15050; return string.format("%ig %is %ic", tc/10000,((tc > 10000 and math.abs(tc) or tc)/100%100), ((tc > 100 and math.abs(tc) or tc)%100)) |
| 16:33.30 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: -1g 49s 50c |
| 16:33.37 | Mirrormn | hrm |
| 16:33.39 | Mirrormn | oh |
| 16:33.52 | HazRPG | this is where I was having trouble with it when I was trying it out |
| 16:33.54 | Mirrormn | lua> local tc = -15050; return string.format("%ig %is %ic", tc/10000,((math.abs(tc) > 10000 and math.abs(tc) or tc)/100%100), ((math.abs(tc) > 100 and math.abs(tc) or tc)%100)) |
| 16:33.55 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: -1g 50s 50c |
| 16:34.10 | Mirrormn | lua> local tc = -1505; return string.format("%ig %is %ic", tc/10000,((math.abs(tc) > 10000 and math.abs(tc) or tc)/100%100), ((math.abs(tc) > 100 and math.abs(tc) or tc)%100)) |
| 16:34.10 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: 0g 84s 5c |
| 16:34.41 | Megalon | modulo is not that good with negatives |
| 16:34.41 | Mirrormn | well honestly |
| 16:34.45 | Megalon | if you wanna stay negative ;) |
| 16:34.52 | Mirrormn | this is not something I would try to do in a single line |
| 16:35.29 | Mirrormn | like I said before, it would be much easier to just detect the negative beforehand, convert the number to positive, and then format it however |
| 16:35.30 | HazRPG | well I originally had it in several lines, but my if statements weren't doing the right stuff |
| 16:35.39 | Repo | 10pitbull4_visualhelpers (experimental): 03fammy2k * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): v0.9.0-beta1 |
| 16:37.14 | Mirrormn | lua> local tc = -1505; local atc = math.abs(atc); return (tc > 0 and "" or "-")..string.format("%ig %is %ic", atc/10000, atc/100%100, atc%100) |
| 16:37.15 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'abs' (number expected, got nil) |
| 16:37.23 | Mirrormn | lua> local tc = -1505; local atc = math.abs(tc); return (tc > 0 and "" or "-")..string.format("%ig %is %ic", atc/10000, atc/100%100, atc%100) |
| 16:37.23 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: -0g 15s 5c |
| 16:37.27 | Mirrormn | there |
| 16:37.43 | Mirrormn | oh actually |
| 16:37.50 | Mirrormn | lua> local tc = -1505; local atc = math.abs(tc); return (tc >= 0 and "" or "-")..string.format("%ig %is %ic", atc/10000, atc/100%100, atc%100) |
| 16:37.51 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: -0g 15s 5c |
| 16:38.00 | Mirrormn | or else you'd end up with -0g 0s 0c |
| 16:38.03 | Mirrormn | ^_^ |
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| 16:38.12 | Mirrormn | (when you had 0 copper) |
| 16:38.21 | HazRPG | yeah I get ya |
| 16:38.55 | Slayman1 | oh nice you can DL the cata data without digitally purchasing, sweet |
| 16:39.00 | HazRPG | going to have to C&P that into an editor to read it carefully ^^ |
| 16:39.23 | HazRPG | Slayman1: heh, yeah you just need to change the WTF file |
| 16:39.30 | Repo | 10pitbull4_healthflash (experimental): 03fammy2k * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): v0.9.0-beta1 |
| 16:39.32 | Mirrormn | the only wonky part is the (tc >= 0 and "" or "-") |
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| 16:39.37 | Slayman1 | HazRPG: yes |
| 16:40.00 | Mirrormn | that takes advantage of lua's logical operator behavior |
| 16:40.01 | HazRPG | I figured that one out when I saw in the WTF file that it had WL as the game I owned :P |
| 16:40.21 | Mirrormn | basically, if you say "a and b" |
| 16:40.22 | HazRPG | Mirrormn: ah, yeah I can see that :P |
| 16:40.29 | Repo | 10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r153 / (3 files in 2 directories): Ticket 45 - Fixed a bug that caused the crafting window to craft if you turn off all of the deciders. |
| 16:40.30 | Repo | Fixed an issue where the crafting window would crash if GetTradeSkillReagentItemLink() failed to return a link. This happened with my Wild Turkey |
| 16:40.36 | Mirrormn | lua will try to simplify the expression |
| 16:41.28 | Mirrormn | so it will evaluate to b if both a is true, or a if a is false |
| 16:41.51 | Mirrormn | and then the "a or b" simplifies to a if a is true and b if a is false |
| 16:42.02 | Mirrormn | and "and" take precedence over "or" |
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| 16:42.52 | Mirrormn | so (a and b or c) is a common shorthand way to cause an expression to evaluate to either b or c, depending on the truth value of a |
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| 16:43.44 | HazRPG | yeah, I can sorta see that with what you did |
| 16:43.53 | Mirrormn | it's basically the same as "a ? b : c" in C, if you're familiar with that |
| 16:44.13 | HazRPG | haha, see that I understand! |
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| 16:44.23 | HazRPG | I do C/C++/PHP coding |
| 16:44.30 | Mirrormn | well there ya go |
| 16:44.49 | Mirrormn | I like Lua's way better, though, because you can use the logical operators for other things |
| 16:44.54 | HazRPG | that's what I've been trying to work out in lua, but well I haven't the foggiest as to how it works - but now I see the light |
| 16:45.17 | HazRPG | well for this at least heh |
| 16:45.42 | Mirrormn | for example, if you're trying to use a value, but there's a chance it might be nil, you can just say (value or "default") |
| 16:45.55 | Mirrormn | so the expression will evaluate to "default" if value happens to be nil |
| 16:45.56 | HazRPG | ooo, really? |
| 16:46.21 | HazRPG | wow, that might stop so many of the iffy errors I've seen while trying to do this addon |
| 16:46.43 | Mirrormn | lua: local value = "yeah"; return (value or "default") |
| 16:46.47 | HazRPG | every time it shouts "nil" at me, I keep shouting at the screen saying "give it time! it won't be nil later!" |
| 16:46.47 | Mirrormn | whoops |
| 16:46.54 | Mirrormn | lua> local value = "yeah"; return (value or "default") |
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| 16:46.54 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: yeah |
| 16:46.59 | Mirrormn | lua> local value; return (value or "default") |
| 16:47.00 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: default |
| 16:47.33 | HazRPG | sweet xD |
| 16:47.47 | HazRPG | *so many ideas now bubble in my head* |
| 16:48.01 | Mirrormn | and by the way, ".." is the string concatenation operator, in case you didn't know |
| 16:48.09 | HazRPG | man I love programming when ya suddenly get shown the way forward |
| 16:48.18 | HazRPG | yeah I figured that one out :P |
| 16:48.26 | HazRPG | I've used that for my debug function |
| 16:48.52 | HazRPG | php is sort of the same it uses just a plain . |
| 16:49.08 | HazRPG | I figured that one out via trial n error that it was .. |
| 16:49.32 | HazRPG | (more abusive shouting of the screen to work that one out) |
| 16:49.38 | Mirrormn | trial and error? -.- |
| 16:49.40 | Mirrormn | ~pil |
| 16:49.40 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 16:49.47 | Mirrormn | you should be working from that |
| 16:49.56 | HazRPG | woah wait, can you actually get a lua compiler or a lua simulator? much like lua_bot here? |
| 16:50.06 | Nobgul | Yes |
| 16:50.09 | Mirrormn | sure |
| 16:50.14 | Nobgul | google Online lua |
| 16:50.21 | Nobgul | there is one at lua.org |
| 16:50.23 | HazRPG | mega thumbs up |
| 16:50.24 | Nobgul | you can run code in |
| 16:50.39 | Megalon | just w/o wow api |
| 16:50.40 | HazRPG | might save so much hassle reloading ui |
| 16:51.12 | HazRPG | yeah, but I can replace the stuff that wow would use with what I'd expect and see if the general equation would work |
| 16:51.22 | HazRPG | much like what Mirrormn did with the copper above |
| 16:51.46 | Mirrormn | you can actually integrate a real-time lua syntax checker into some text editors (scite and I think Notepad++) |
| 16:51.51 | HazRPG | once it shows what I want, I can then replace and place in the code into the addon and see how wow reacts |
| 16:52.05 | HazRPG | heh, using scite |
| 16:52.30 | Mirrormn | regular, or wowinterface flavor? |
| 16:52.32 | HazRPG | always loved scite as a text-editor |
| 16:52.38 | HazRPG | regular |
| 16:52.50 | HazRPG | woah, there's a wowinterface one? |
| 16:52.57 | Nobgul | scite |
| 16:53.10 | HazRPG | do tell |
| 16:53.13 | Nobgul | Its old though on wowinterface. I recomend getting the newer one |
| 16:53.34 | Mirrormn | well, wowinterface has a version of scite that's packaged with Lua syntax and WoW API highlighting |
| 16:53.40 | Repo | 10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers 06asaayers 07Experiment1, Experiment2 * r155 Core.lua: ItemAuditor doesn't open the crafting interface when a tradeskill is opened in debugging builds |
| 16:53.41 | Repo | ItemAuditor is now global |
| 16:53.54 | Mirrormn | but LuaInspect |
| 16:53.55 | Mirrormn | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaInspect |
| 16:54.06 | Mirrormn | will actually check your syntax is realtime for errors |
| 16:54.14 | Mirrormn | (but does not have WoW API highlighting) |
| 16:54.27 | HazRPG | ah cool |
| 16:54.38 | HazRPG | actually come to think of it wowinterface sounds familiar |
| 16:54.47 | Mirrormn | I couldn't get it to work with the wowinterface version, though |
| 16:54.55 | HazRPG | I may have used that once when I first started this addon before quitting wow |
| 16:55.03 | Mirrormn | I'm pretty sure luainspect conflicts with whatever additions the wowinterface package has |
| 16:55.29 | Nobgul | You can remove the plugin for wowinterface. but then it just makes it a old version of scite |
| 16:55.31 | HazRPG | does wowinterface have a GUI for making frames? cos I recall testing something like that many moons ago |
| 16:55.34 | Mirrormn | I'm sure you could combine them if you knew a lot about the way Scite handles plugins |
| 16:55.53 | Mirrormn | there are no good frame-creation GUIs |
| 16:55.54 | Repo | 10pitbull4_healthflash (experimental): 03fammy2k 04v0.9.0-alpha1 * r3 : Tagging as v0.9.0-alpha1 |
| 16:56.02 | Mirrormn | WoW UI Designer has one |
| 16:56.14 | Mirrormn | and I think the WoW Visual Studio thing does too |
| 16:56.15 | HazRPG | actually think that was the one I used (?) possibly |
| 16:56.15 | Nobgul | its old as dirt also |
| 16:56.18 | Mirrormn | but they suck |
| 16:56.32 | Nobgul | Mirrormn, There is a online frame creation tool |
| 16:56.40 | Mirrormn | oh yeah? |
| 16:56.42 | Nobgul | There is a post in wowinterface with a link. |
| 16:56.47 | Nobgul | Yer it does lua and xml frames. |
| 16:56.48 | Repo | 10pitbull4_visualhelpers (experimental): 03fammy2k 04v0.9.0-alpha1 * r3 : Tagging as v0.9.0-alpha1 |
| 16:57.04 | Nobgul | Ill see if i can find it for you later |
| 16:57.22 | Mirrormn | well I'm perfectly comfortable just creating frames with lua |
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| 16:57.35 | Mirrormn | I kind of enjoy it now really |
| 16:57.41 | Nobgul | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30623 |
| 16:58.20 | Nobgul | Haven't looked at it in a long while. But i saw a few weeks ago a post about he updated it. |
| 16:58.32 | Repo | 10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers 06asaayers 07Experiment1, Experiment2 * r157 CHANGELOG.txt: Updated changelog to trigger build |
| 16:58.44 | Repo | Updated changelog to trigger build |
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| 17:02.19 | Repo | 10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.3.1-5-gc46c080 / (19 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 17:02.21 | Repo | c46c080: That code wasn't supposed to be there. |
| 17:02.22 | Repo | cf9c93f: GOD DAMMIT BATMAN |
| 17:02.22 | Repo | 344e639: Apparently these files changed... O_o |
| 17:02.23 | Repo | a327c0d: Added an option to choose to toggle the expander minimap or only have it down while you are holding the button down (a.k.a. the toggle toggle). |
| 17:02.58 | Slayman1 | I feel a little cheated by that fugly Swift Flight form I just learned |
| 17:04.17 | Xinhuan | a batman commit! |
| 17:04.57 | Mirrormn | yknow one time I wrote a beautiful poem for my commit message |
| 17:05.01 | Mirrormn | and nobody noticed it :( |
| 17:05.22 | Megalon | holy check |
| 17:05.40 | Slayman1 | Mirrormn: I'm using your weakauras, what I can say so far is: it looks really good while configuring :D |
| 17:05.49 | Mirrormn | thanks ^_^ |
| 17:06.09 | Slayman1 | I noticed sooo little DLs in CClient |
| 17:06.21 | Mirrormn | huh? |
| 17:06.44 | Slayman1 | very few downloads |
| 17:06.55 | Mirrormn | what, in WeakAuras? |
| 17:07.08 | Mirrormn | it includes all the media from PowerAuras -.- |
| 17:07.16 | Mirrormn | that's like 200 media files lol |
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| 17:10.10 | Slayman1 | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 17:10.17 | purl | sylvanaar <~sylvanaar@unaffiliated/sylvanaar> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 16h 9m 22s ago, saying: 'http://blizz.pastey.net/143552 =/'. |
| 17:11.28 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 17:11.54 | Slayman1 | we know |
| 17:13.33 | Slayman | they changed treasure chests somewhat haven't they? |
| 17:14.10 | Mirrormn | I can't wait until Wikileaks reveals that Fisker never killed a man |
| 17:14.15 | Mirrormn | what a scandal that will be |
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| 17:18.14 | Slayman | druid is awesome you get 4 completely different playstyles in 1 char :D |
| 17:18.53 | Megalon | but only one bank :P |
| 17:20.03 | quiescens | all the real druids carry their gear with them for no good reason anyway |
| 17:20.43 | Megalon | you have to be prepared ;< |
| 17:20.44 | Slayman | druids are for 24slot bags |
| 17:20.48 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r184 Bazooka.lua: |
| 17:20.49 | Repo | plugins handle LDB callbacks now, only register for interesting callbacks |
| 17:21.31 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
| 17:21.32 | Fisker | i came? |
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| 17:22.43 | Megalon | i know, that's why we have to bear you here |
| 17:23.06 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 04v1.9.5 * r185 : Tagging as v1.9.5 |
| 17:23.07 | Repo | - unknown LDB objects are disabled by default |
| 17:23.08 | Repo | - plugins handle LDB callbacks now, and only register for attribute changes that are displayed |
| 17:24.25 | Fisker | :O Megalon ? |
| 17:24.37 | Megalon | why so :O Fisker |
| 17:24.47 | Megalon | cloud vs socke |
| 17:24.48 | Megalon | btw |
| 17:25.15 | Mirrormn | on what? |
| 17:25.15 | Megalon | german EPS finals so racebalanced |
| 17:25.19 | Megalon | TTTP |
| 17:25.33 | Megalon | and IEM 2P10T kkkkk :D |
| 17:25.40 | Megalon | only white-ra + socke are non-terran :S |
| 17:26.12 | Megalon | Mirrormn: desert oasis atm, hurrdurr ;O |
| 17:26.28 | Mirrormn | I meant where can I watch -.- |
| 17:26.57 | Megalon | :D |
| 17:26.58 | Megalon | esltv |
| 17:27.08 | Megalon | but it is cast in german |
| 17:27.20 | Megalon | octoshape + http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms2/0/0MediaPlayer+0+/esl.oph350 |
| 17:28.04 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 17:28.11 | Mirrormn | Chrome is trying to download that link |
| 17:28.15 | Mirrormn | good luck, Chrome ^_^ |
| 17:28.16 | Nobgul | Mirrormn, Thats if the site owner doesnt get arrested first. |
| 17:28.27 | Nobgul | Mirrormn, Talking about wikileaks that is |
| 17:29.18 | quiescens | o.O |
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| 17:30.29 | Slayman | you successfully hacked 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:31.48 | Megalon | i'm so gonna delete his harddrives |
| 17:31.52 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6-beta-2-29-g224615d / (4 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits] |
| 17:31.53 | Repo | 224615d: Handle Unicode non-breaking space and show an error dialog for invalid values, since AceConfigDialog doesn't do it (ticket #154). |
| 17:31.54 | Repo | 9bb3b5b: Do not error on macro that can't be resolved to a spell (ticket #149). |
| 17:31.55 | Repo | 41f4f8f: Properly update buttons after changing configuration (ticket #155). |
| 17:31.55 | Mirrormn | that's just how octoshape works, you have to stream it from yourself |
| 17:31.56 | Repo | eaf012f: Overhauled code naming scheme. |
| 17:34.44 | EthanCentaurai | does anyone know the soundfile Chakra uses? I would like to silence it |
| 17:38.14 | Nobgul | EthanCentaurai, If you can catch bluespacecow in #wowuidev he prob has the paths to the files. |
| 17:38.38 | Nobgul | Other wise you can extract the mpq's and find the path yourself |
| 17:38.49 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen bluspacecow |
| 17:38.54 | purl | bluspacecow <~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 4h 26m 43s ago, saying: '>XD'. |
| 17:40.17 | Repo | 10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny 041.2.3 * r46 : Tagging as 1.2.3 |
| 17:41.30 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r49 RegionTypes (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:41.31 | Repo | Fixed a bug which caused cooldown overlays on Icons to display incorrectly for Icons with 0 duration. |
| 17:41.33 | Repo | Fixed a bug which caused animations to unzoom zoomed Icons. |
| 17:41.34 | Repo | Fixed a bug which caused Progress Textures with certain trigger types to display incorrectly. |
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| 17:51.10 | Slayman | from 69-70 you need ~600k xp from 70-71 you need ~1.2Million |
| 17:51.29 | Fisker | damn Megalon |
| 17:51.32 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 17:53.16 | Slayman | over a PB&J sammich, with a napkin |
| 17:54.35 | Megalon | that's how you turned orphan Fisker |
| 17:54.50 | Fisker | naw |
| 17:55.26 | Megalon | you wanna be like batman Fisker? |
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| 18:17.19 | Fisker | no Megalon |
| 18:18.30 | Hati | Fisker is Superman |
| 18:18.51 | Fisker | btw Megalon |
| 18:18.57 | Fisker | what's with all the non-koreans? |
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| 18:30.21 | Gagorian | Does anyone know how the Sunfire talent works? Does the spell itself change in your actionbar? |
| 18:31.31 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:37.10 | Gagorian | And do all talents that apply to Moonfire also apply to Sunfire? |
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| 18:42.08 | Megalon | yes |
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| 18:43.05 | Fisker | double yes on that |
| 18:45.11 | Fisker | btw Megalon |
| 18:45.20 | Fisker | just idra lose to some retarded rush in the round of 32? |
| 18:45.23 | Fisker | does* |
| 18:48.12 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1467 / (14 files in 2 directories): - Added Druid talents, glyphs, set bonuses |
| 18:48.13 | Repo | - Fixed a few errors here and there |
| 18:50.08 | Megalon | :7 |
| 18:50.25 | Megalon | idra is not good at jinrolling |
| 18:50.25 | Megalon | :< |
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| 18:52.01 | Fisker | yep |
| 18:52.06 | Fisker | he did lose to some retarded rush |
| 18:52.09 | Fisker | doesn't he always do that? |
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| 18:54.22 | Megalon | kinda :D |
| 18:54.55 | Megalon | lately idra began to stream |
| 18:55.04 | Megalon | instant 4k viewers |
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| 19:02.32 | Hati | do i get it right, that AnimationGroup is actually just a part of the animation while Animation is a complex of AnimationGroups ? |
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| 19:24.27 | Hati | k it's the other way around |
| 19:24.33 | Hati | makes more sense ... :x |
| 19:29.03 | Repo | 10sexyreputation: 03dhedbor * r4 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Now update reputtion in tooltip if you gain some. |
| 19:29.04 | Repo | - Single faction tooltip now shows session, today, yesterday, 7 day and 30 day changes. |
| 19:29.06 | NeoTron | Reputtion! |
| 19:29.53 | Hati | word of the day? |
| 19:30.06 | NeoTron | I think it might be |
| 19:30.24 | NeoTron | and if you didn't know I'm dhedbor so I made fun of me |
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| 19:31.11 | Hati | Your disguise has faded. |
| 19:34.53 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r50 WeakAuras.lua: |
| 19:34.54 | Repo | Fixed some instances where displays would magically hide themselves during configuration without permission. |
| 19:35.06 | Mirrormn | ooh |
| 19:35.07 | Mirrormn | whoops |
| 19:35.58 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r51 WeakAuras.lua: Removed debug messages. |
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| 19:50.06 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 14f97a7 / (15 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] Tracker shoul dnow be fully functional. I still need to setup the localizatins ont he website Still TODO: finish overall attendance panel |
| 19:51.31 | sbu | mhhhh |
| 19:52.14 | Fisker | Megalon |
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| 19:55.05 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 19:56.19 | Fisker | Megalon |
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| 20:03.29 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 20:06.25 | Megalon | whatsup |
| 20:15.28 | Megalon | Fisker |
| 20:15.32 | Megalon | thomas gottschalk killed a guy |
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| 20:15.36 | Megalon | just like you did |
| 20:15.44 | sbu | :| |
| 20:15.58 | Megalon | and hunziker screamed like a little pig |
| 20:16.01 | Megalon | but that always happens |
| 20:17.06 | Fisker | who's thomas gottschalk? |
| 20:17.15 | Megalon | he is you eternal nemesis |
| 20:17.18 | Megalon | your |
| 20:17.18 | Fisker | Foxer = marineking now? |
| 20:17.22 | Megalon | yes |
| 20:17.43 | Megalon | koreans change names like you do psychotherapists |
| 20:17.53 | Megalon | everytime the old one suicided |
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| 20:24.18 | Fisker | lol wat |
| 20:24.38 | Fisker | on the makaprime / imnestea fight they put up the win sign before someone won :o |
| 20:25.29 | Fisker | i hate ultras |
| 20:25.36 | Fisker | it's just like "lol i won the game" |
| 20:25.39 | Fisker | so retarded ;_; |
| 20:26.24 | Megalon | makaprime, molester of microphones |
| 20:26.25 | Megalon | :D |
| 20:31.21 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Megalon |
| 20:31.25 | Fisker | but you probably don't b eliev eme |
| 20:31.27 | Fisker | believe me* |
| 20:32.48 | Megalon | you always had a problem with guys sharing dreams with you |
| 20:33.22 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:35.31 | Megalon | Fisker |
| 20:35.32 | Megalon | http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1450/wehgetan.jpg |
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| 20:36.05 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 04beta-1.0 * 7b30fe7 /: [new tag] Beta tag to start geting eyeballs |
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| 20:40.54 | Fisker | what it is? |
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| 20:41.54 | Megalon | the crime scene |
| 20:42.23 | Megalon | http://imm.io/media/2n/2nti.jpg increased the resolution on gottschalk's face |
| 20:43.04 | Fisker | i hate you |
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| 20:51.52 | Megalon | problem? |
| 20:52.16 | Fisker | officer? |
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| 21:07.09 | Fisker | i hate you again Megalon |
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| 21:17.32 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/shinystats/. ShinyStats. Xiiph (Manager/Author), X-buZZ (Translator). Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:17.37 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fambags/. famBags. fammy2k (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:17.42 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_visualhelpers/. PitBull4_VisualHelpers. fammy2k (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 21:17.48 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_healthflash/. PitBull4_HealthFlash. fammy2k (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:18.40 | Hati | wtf is going on ... |
| 21:20.38 | Torhal | Hati: ? |
| 21:20.53 | Hati | a texture is not recognized oO |
| 21:21.44 | Hati | pulse.texture = pulse:CreateTexture(); |
| 21:21.52 | Hati | is not listed ingame ... on the respective frame |
| 21:22.10 | Megalon | Fisker, did you know the american way of parenting |
| 21:22.13 | Megalon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmLhHimvx8M |
| 21:23.17 | Hati | hmm ok |
| 21:23.18 | Hati | nvm |
| 21:23.30 | Hati | i did something really really stupid i don't want to talk about it :( |
| 21:25.21 | Slayman | Megalon: perfectly valid method of torturing children, nothing wrong with that |
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| 21:28.09 | Slayman | dr phil, putting the mentally ill on television! |
| 21:28.31 | Slayman | you all get hotsauce, on the house! |
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| 21:38.04 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 21:38.07 | Fisker | why can't people internet? |
| 21:42.30 | Repo | 10cooldownicons-revamped: 03xhatix * r40 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:42.44 | Repo | New ScriptCmds: InCombat(), gPulse(); read help (/cir) for more informations about them. |
| 21:42.59 | Repo | 10cooldownicons-revamped: 03xhatix * r41 pulse.lua: missed removing a print <.< |
| 21:48.39 | Gnarfoz | @project rating-buster |
| 21:48.40 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/rating-buster/. RatingBuster. Game: WoW. Whitetooth (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago. Tickets: 15/121 |
| 21:54.15 | Gagorian | Anyone know if explosive and immolation trap crits for 150% or 200%? |
| 21:54.37 | Gagorian | (assuming they crit in the first place) |
| 21:59.14 | Fisker | i crit in my pants |
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| 22:04.12 | Nobgul | rating bust is still giving me massive lag when i hover over items. |
| 22:04.13 | Gagorian | Fisker: No your mom crit your head when you were born |
| 22:04.15 | Nobgul | =( |
| 22:06.45 | Hati | it's rating buster? |
| 22:07.00 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1468 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:07.01 | Repo | - Added Hunter abilities, talents, glyphs, setbonuses and buffs for Cataclysm |
| 22:07.02 | Repo | - Begin cleaning Paladin module |
| 22:07.12 | Nobgul | RatingBuster. |
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| 22:07.42 | Hati | yea i know it ... just was asking if it really causes the "lag" on hovering over items (like in questlog) |
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| 22:08.43 | Nobgul | When i hover items i am wearing or in my bag yes. |
| 22:08.53 | Nobgul | And it's the only addon of the type i use. |
| 22:08.59 | Hati | well only got these on quests |
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| 22:28.27 | Sapu | anybody know how to share saved variables between multiple accounts on the same computer? I know DataStore does it but couldn't find how |
| 22:28.51 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6-beta-2-32-g1d8a364 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 22:28.52 | Repo | 1d8a364: Fixed armor debuffs. |
| 22:28.53 | Repo | 7178df0: Be more picky about units to scan. |
| 22:28.54 | Repo | c68cb67: Be more intrusive and reactive when dealing with animated glow on macro, hopefully fixing ticket #139. |
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| 22:29.57 | mckenziemc | you have to log on both accounts on the same realm-faction and use the sharing option from the addon (i don't remember where it is but i can check) |
| 22:30.24 | mckenziemc | personally i use symbolic links so that both accounts use the same filesystem :p |
| 22:30.43 | Sapu | well...trying to make my addon share saved variables between accounts |
| 22:31.02 | mckenziemc | ah, for your users? |
| 22:31.15 | Gnarfoz | <Nobgul> rating bust is still giving me massive lag when i hover over items. <-- that was exactly why I was going to look through the tickets :F |
| 22:31.26 | Sapu | yes |
| 22:31.31 | mckenziemc | @project Altoholic |
| 22:31.33 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/altoholic/. Altoholic. Game: WoW. Thaoky (Manager/Author), pompachomp (Author). Updated: 31 hours ago. Tickets: 54/329 |
| 22:31.48 | Gnarfoz | it also makes wow twiddle its thumbs when opening a vendor |
| 22:31.51 | Sapu | yes Altoholic uses datastore |
| 22:31.56 | mckenziemc | actually what am i doing that for, i have the files on my system >< |
| 22:32.32 | mckenziemc | i would guess that the sharing is implemented in Alto rather than DS |
| 22:32.40 | mckenziemc | i could be wrong |
| 22:33.42 | Sapu | no it's datastore because datastore has APIs that address multiple accounts |
| 22:35.44 | Sapu | looks like it stores everything in db.global.Characters |
| 22:36.06 | Sapu | db.global.Characters["Account.Realm.Name"] |
| 22:36.12 | mckenziemc | it looks like Altoholic\Comm.lua has the account sharing code, though it's too dense for me to read through it now >< |
| 22:37.01 | Sapu | hmm |
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| 22:37.39 | Sapu | looks like it's relying on at some point the person to be logged into both accounts at once...and sending messages through the addon chat channel... |
| 22:37.47 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 22:37.58 | Sapu | that's kinda lame |
| 22:37.59 | Sapu | :P |
| 22:39.18 | mckenziemc | that's really the only way to do it through addons |
| 22:39.29 | Sapu | yea I guess so |
| 22:39.42 | Sapu | guess I won't be supporting that then heh |
| 22:47.06 | Repo | 10dependencyloader (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r7 / (4 files in 2 directories): added externals |
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| 22:58.09 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Were yuo wanting to move your projects to CurseForge? |
| 23:00.27 | mckenziemc | i was wondering if it's possible to move projects, unless you fell they'd be more appropriate there, i'm fine either way |
| 23:01.23 | mckenziemc | i have some projects on curseforge already, but it and wowace are well integrated so i guess it doesn't matter if i have some on each |
| 23:06.16 | Repo | 10shinystats: 03Xiiph * r12 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added aliases to ShinyStats config command. |
| 23:06.17 | Repo | Added some setting strings to enUS locale (need translation) |
| 23:06.18 | Repo | Made default config commands go to blizzard addon options instead of ace one. |
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| 23:18.33 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r3110 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): - fix the wow crash bug |
| 23:18.58 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1469 DrDamage.lua: - Fixed cast time based scaling on levels 1-19 |
| 23:18.59 | Repo | - Now correctly updates base values after level up |
| 23:22.49 | Gagorian | Anyone have a marksmanship hunter and could check a quick thing for me? |
| 23:23.10 | Gagorian | /print select(6,UnitRangedDamage("player")) |
| 23:23.53 | Caleb| | 1 |
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| 23:24.17 | Gagorian | And you have Artisan Quiver active? |
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| 23:24.36 | Gagorian | (well, active as a passive can be) |
| 23:24.41 | Caleb| | yes ofc |
| 23:24.47 | Gagorian | Alright, thanks |
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| 23:32.38 | Repo | 10baggins: 03profalbert 06ace3 * r516 Baggins.lua: |
| 23:32.39 | Repo | properly hide the use-action-button of the contextmenu, so other dropdowns may work again |
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| 23:52.18 | Mikk | so errrr |
| 23:52.32 | Mikk | gathermate2data doesn't have mining nodes? |
| 23:56.27 | Fisker | slaps Mikk around a bit with a large trout |
