| 00:01.17 | kagaro | Pneumatus: i havent notcid any overlay issues |
| 00:01.49 | Pneumatus | got no idea what is doing it, but they keep getting shifted towards the top-left corner |
| 00:01.56 | Pneumatus | only happens every so often and a reloadui fixes it |
| 00:03.25 | kagaro | dunno only time i ever saw an issue was when i had 2k ms latency last week when my isp had router issues |
| 00:04.08 | kagaro | nevcairiel: may have some insight |
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| 00:06.31 | Repo | 10wholib: 03sylvanaar * r117 LibWho-2.0/LibWho-2.0.lua: make the callbacks upgrade with the library ... fail |
| 00:09.50 | Repo | 10wholib: 03sylvanaar 042.0.118 * r118 : Tagging as 2.0.118 |
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| 00:16.03 | jpmorgan_ | hmm another question, can anyone suggest some methods of seeing which addons are using the most resources? something is causing my fps to trend to 0 |
| 00:19.36 | Jerub_ | jpmorgan_: apart from a binary search through disabling addons, i don't know of anything. if you find anything i'm all ears. |
| 00:20.12 | jpmorgan_ | one great option was optionhouse |
| 00:20.16 | jpmorgan_ | i'll see if it still works |
| 00:20.27 | jpmorgan_ | it could tell u resource usage down to the specific addon |
| 00:20.37 | Jerub | interesting, i might grab that |
| 00:20.43 | jpmorgan_ | it may not be up to date |
| 00:20.48 | Nechckn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7175-ResourceTools.html is about the only one |
| 00:20.52 | Jerub | two addons that have given me trouble are threat plates and atlas. |
| 00:21.31 | jpmorgan_ | ah looks like resource tools is the way to go |
| 00:21.44 | Jerub | Nechckn: ty |
| 00:21.46 | jpmorgan_ | oh maybe not |
| 00:21.48 | jpmorgan_ | hmm |
| 00:22.06 | jpmorgan_ | i'll try OH and let u know |
| 00:22.28 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r194 / (6 files in 3 directories): - 4 new Icon choices thanks to mojobechi |
| 00:22.29 | Repo | -Holy Rune, Crossed Swords, Rogue's Sword, and Rogue Point |
| 00:22.57 | Nechckn | Actually - AddOn Control Panel will show a bit of use, too - iirc |
| 00:23.05 | jpmorgan_ | hey Neck do u know if i should load obsolete the obsolete auctioneer stuff? |
| 00:24.01 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Odica * r108 LibTourist-3.0.lua: (Message trimmed by 9 lines) |
| 00:24.02 | Repo | - added arena: The Ring of Valor |
| 00:24.03 | Repo | - added battleground: Isle of Conquest |
| 00:24.04 | Repo | - API: added IsTransport(zone) |
| 00:24.05 | Nechckn | jpmorgan_ the only thing that should be outdated are the glypher and glypher post - which you can set the Load Out of Date to load and they will run, once we are sure they are good to go, then the TOCs will be updated. |
| 00:24.06 | Repo | - API: added GetType(zone) |
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| 00:26.20 | jpmorgan_ | i think i have some old legacy stuff\ |
| 00:26.26 | jpmorgan_ | one sec i'll get names |
| 00:26.33 | jpmorgan_ | busy crashing mymachine lol |
| 00:27.56 | jpmorgan_ | hmm optionhouse still work |
| 00:27.57 | jpmorgan_ | ss |
| 00:28.06 | Nechckn | jpmorgan_ Yeah, go through the http://Wiki.Norganna.Org/Installing and pull out all of that stuff. |
| 00:28.06 | jpmorgan_ | very handy |
| 00:28.18 | jpmorgan_ | checking htat now |
| 00:28.22 | Nechckn | Then, for now, grab the beta/preview - that would be the best way to go |
| 00:28.38 | jpmorgan_ | yah i got the 5.10 beta i think |
| 00:29.02 | jpmorgan_ | so i have it loading auc:database |
| 00:29.03 | Nechckn | kk that is the way to go - it has some logic to help deal with the silly GetAll returns. |
| 00:29.08 | jpmorgan_ | aucstat:classic. shjould i just nuke them? |
| 00:29.41 | Nechckn | Yeah... You could leave Auc-DB off, there are only like 6 people uploading right now, so not worth the space |
| 00:29.53 | Nechckn | Stat classic should definitely go |
| 00:30.11 | jpmorgan_ | k i got some cruft accumulating obviously. |
| 00:30.20 | Nechckn | Has not been updated with anything since... well, Auc Classic was around. |
| 00:30.34 | Nechckn | hehehe just a few =) |
| 00:31.46 | jpmorgan_ | i just nuked every auc-whatever |
| 00:31.49 | jpmorgan_ | and reinstalled the beta |
| 00:34.15 | Repo | 10tier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster * r39 / (2 files in 1 directory): Make compatible with 4.0.3a |
| 00:34.37 | ThiefMaster | (months later.. stupid repo didn't let me commit.. just found out it does not use the curse account password) |
| 00:35.02 | Repo | 10tier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster 04v1.5 * r40 : Tagging as v1.5 |
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| 01:02.36 | Parnic | so i have a frame that's not parented to anything. when i create children on that frame, they're one size. if i change the parent frame to be parented to UIParent, then its children frames suddenly become much smaller. anyone know why? |
| 01:03.24 | Gagorian | It adjusts to UI scale? |
| 01:03.40 | Parnic | hmm. maybe. seems weird that you'd have to parent to UIParent for that |
| 01:04.51 | Gagorian | Well change your UI scale and see :) |
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| 01:14.32 | Mikk | parnic: "UIScale" works by changing the scale of UIParent |
| 01:14.36 | Mikk | nothing weird about it |
| 01:14.51 | Mikk | you always want to parent your stuff to uiparent (or a child thereof, obviously) |
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| 01:16.38 | Mikk | if you don't, it stays visible when hiding the UI (= taking screenshots) |
| 01:16.46 | Mikk | and that's really freaking annoying |
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| 01:18.04 | Parnic | okay, thanks |
| 01:18.42 | Parnic | i had just assumed they wouldn't allow that to happen |
| 01:18.51 | Parnic | seems odd that things aren't implicitly parented to UIParent if not otherwise specified |
| 01:29.57 | Parnic | alright, next question: i have an rgba (32-bit) png that i've converted to DXT3 blp using BLPConverter on WoWInterface. for one particular texture the alpha channel gets screwed whenever you change resolutions with the game running. any ideas? |
| 01:30.38 | Parnic | and by "gets screwed" i mean it becomes a solid color instead of being transparent |
| 01:34.51 | Yssaril | Parnic: problem is if everyhting is automatically parented then nothing would receive events while you hide the UI (screenshots cinematics) since all your frames would be hidden |
| 01:42.46 | Parnic | that makes sense |
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| 02:01.41 | mckenziemc | is there any way to get a list of the folders in Interface\AddOns that the curse client doesn't recognize? |
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| 02:02.54 | harl | ? |
| 02:03.19 | Mikk | bastards |
| 02:03.24 | Mikk | they said maintenance would be 5am |
| 02:03.26 | Mikk | it was 3am |
| 02:03.27 | Mikk | bastards |
| 02:03.53 | mckenziemc | most of it would be my own development addons, but there are some other addons i've had that the client doesn't know about |
| 02:04.05 | mckenziemc | Wow-pro's guides used to be one |
| 02:04.06 | Mikk | you can probably sort by status |
| 02:04.27 | mckenziemc | they don't show up in curse client's lists |
| 02:04.34 | mckenziemc | is there a hidden option or a logfile? |
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| 02:06.49 | harl | i don't think the curse client would recognize add-ons that aren't on either either curse, curseforge, wowace or wowinterface (the latter doesn't even seem to work with all of them). at least it wouldn't make much sense to me |
| 02:06.56 | harl | -either |
| 02:07.10 | mckenziemc | right |
| 02:08.39 | harl | so, as long as they're available on curse.com, they should show up in curse client as well |
| 02:09.03 | mckenziemc | i want to see which ones are installed but -not- from those sites |
| 02:10.38 | mckenziemc | like Jamba |
| 02:10.49 | mckenziemc | (multi-boxing addon) |
| 02:10.55 | harl | dir %wow%/Interface/AddOns ? |
| 02:11.17 | mckenziemc | but that's everything >< |
| 02:13.27 | harl | where from would you expect the curse client to pull information about add-ons it doesn't support. except maybe the .toc |
| 02:13.51 | mckenziemc | i wouldn't expect it to get info |
| 02:14.08 | mckenziemc | just say "unrecognized addon in folder Jamba" |
| 02:14.13 | mckenziemc | or something to that effect |
| 02:14.23 | harl | i don't think it's even made for that, in any case |
| 02:14.43 | mckenziemc | so that i could see which were hanging around, and uninstall or manually update |
| 02:14.48 | harl | even if there was an 'ignore' type of list |
| 02:14.56 | harl | was=is |
| 02:15.41 | harl | which i somehow doubt |
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| 02:17.34 | mckenziemc | it's the kind of thing i would expect to go into a log or debugging output though, "found folder xyz, part of addon ABC", "found folder spam, part of addon Eggs", "found folder zzz, unrecognized addon" |
| 02:21.58 | harl | i'd think the fastest way to achieve that is to have a script listing the contents of /AddOns/ then filtering everything you don't want it to show, e.g. because cc already has it in its list. |
| 02:23.12 | mckenziemc | how would i tell what it already has in its list though? |
| 02:23.17 | mckenziemc | from a script |
| 02:23.39 | harl | you'd do that manually, one-time? |
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| 02:25.00 | mckenziemc | i've got 234 addons installed atm and it's apt to change often :p |
| 02:25.03 | harl | i dunno, my addons don't change on a daily basis |
| 02:25.10 | mckenziemc | recognized in curse client* |
| 02:26.04 | harl | yeah well, cc recognizes 180 for me |
| 02:26.22 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta19-6-gdfd8a6c / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 02:26.23 | Repo | dfd8a6c: Forgot to add localizations to Debug.lua |
| 02:26.24 | Repo | a9bcacf: Ticket #891: ShortRace support for Goblin and Worgen races. |
| 02:26.28 | mckenziemc | where does it store its logs anyway? |
| 02:27.07 | mckenziemc | on windows 7 |
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| 02:28.46 | harl | i dunno about windows 7.. but curse gets stored in the %appdata% directory on xp |
| 02:29.04 | harl | under /Apps/etcblah |
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| 02:30.52 | mckenziemc | shrugs |
| 02:30.55 | mckenziemc | ~ps3 |
| 02:30.56 | purl | It's called the PS3 because you turn 3 pi radians and walk away. |
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| 02:39.41 | harl | you could always check via File Monitor which directory the curse client reads/writes its stuff in :) |
| 02:41.33 | harl | and there's a .log file in that directory, but as far as i can see it doesn't contain entries about specific add-ons at all |
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| 02:54.11 | mckenziemc | Resource Monitor only showed it accessing the wow addon folders and some .dlls in the windows folder : / |
| 02:54.44 | mckenziemc | i must've missed any log files in the list |
| 03:01.26 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r145 ProfessionsVault.lua: |
| 03:01.27 | Repo | NEW FEATURE: enable the link button in the Blizzard TradeSkill UI when we can |
| 03:13.07 | Primer | So, I have my AceConfig multiselect mostly working. The actions work, checking the db values works...only the display doesn't work. I'm wondering what the display is the value and not the key? It be so much easier to have an associative array to do all this |
| 03:14.07 | Primer | I made a table: foo = { "Name1" = true, "Name2" = "false, ... } |
| 03:14.22 | Primer | my multiselect does: values = foo |
| 03:14.50 | Primer | and my default db config goes: config = { ..., whatever = foo, ...} |
| 03:15.21 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r803 GrimBatol/Umbriss.lua: Swear I fixed this spellId already |
| 03:15.27 | Primer | clicking it works for getting and setting, and checking addon.db.profile.whatever[type] works too |
| 03:17.19 | Shefki_ | mckenziemc: np |
| 03:17.22 | Shefki_ | oops mt |
| 03:20.11 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r291 WIM.toc: touch to pick up new wholib |
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| 03:25.02 | Primer | I feel like I'm missing something very simple |
| 03:26.18 | Primer | it just doesn't make sense for me to have to use 2 tables to do this |
| 03:26.25 | sylvaan | @proejct broker-wholib |
| 03:26.31 | sylvaan | @project broker-wholib |
| 03:26.32 | Repo | sylvaan: No project found that matches 'broker-wholib' |
| 03:27.17 | Primer | wtf, I just got pushed an update |
| 03:29.17 | Repo | 10broker_wholib: 03sylvanaar * r7 Broker_WhoLib.toc: touch to pick up new wholib |
| 03:31.15 | Primer | So in lua there are "tables". They can be foo = { 1, 2, 3 }, foo = { ["one"] = 1, ["two"] = 2, ["three"] = 3 }, right? Why do associative ones require that []? Unavoidable language construct? |
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| 03:32.12 | Parnic | they don't. |
| 03:32.16 | Parnic | lua> local a={one=1,two=2} print(a["one"]) |
| 03:32.16 | lua_bot | Parnic: 1 |
| 03:32.22 | ckknight | Primer: no, ["one"] is the same as one in that context |
| 03:32.31 | ckknight | [] are required for non-strings |
| 03:32.46 | Parnic | lua> local a={one=1,two=2} print(a["one"]) print(a.one) print(a.two) |
| 03:32.47 | lua_bot | Parnic: 1, 1, 2 |
| 03:32.52 | Primer | ok |
| 03:33.02 | ckknight | lua> local x = {one = 1, ["two"] = 2}; print(a.one, a["one"], a.two, a["two"]) |
| 03:33.03 | lua_bot | ckknight: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'a' (a nil value) |
| 03:33.04 | Primer | so why can't I use an "associative array" to create a multiselect? |
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| 03:33.08 | ckknight | lua> local a = {one = 1, ["two"] = 2}; print(a.one, a["one"], a.two, a["two"]) |
| 03:33.09 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1, 1, 2, 2 |
| 03:33.21 | ckknight | Primer: multiselect? |
| 03:33.31 | Primer | AceConfig multiselect |
| 03:33.48 | ckknight | because of poor coding on AceConfig's part, my guess |
| 03:33.57 | ckknight | also, dict-like tables don't have any ordering |
| 03:34.01 | ckknight | so that's an issue |
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| 03:34.28 | Repo | 10census-wholib-version: 03sylvanaar * r29 / (12 files in 6 directories): fix for long delays when number of who results is 0 |
| 03:34.29 | Repo | delete hard embeds merged from offical version |
| 03:34.30 | Repo | Merge |
| 03:35.06 | Parnic | ckknight maybe you can help me: i have an rgba (32-bit) png that i've converted to DXT3 blp using BLPConverter on WoWInterface. for one particular texture the alpha channel draws as a solid color whenever you change resolutions with the game running. /reload fixes it. any ideas? |
| 03:35.22 | ckknight | use tga |
| 03:35.33 | Parnic | just ignore blp altogether? |
| 03:35.34 | ckknight | custom blps occasionally have issues |
| 03:35.37 | ckknight | yeah |
| 03:35.42 | Parnic | mmk |
| 03:35.52 | Primer | So I can't avoid using 2 tables to implement an AceConfig multiselect |
| 03:36.39 | ckknight | probably, Primer |
| 03:38.15 | Repo | 10census-wholib-version: 03sylvanaar * r30 .hgtags: Added tag beta6 for changeset 54f16a648bd0 |
| 03:38.28 | Primer | Like I said, I have it all working, except for the display part, which wants the table values |
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| 03:39.19 | mckenziemc | my old UpRank addon is obsolete now, which Development stage should i set it to to have it marked as such / stop it from showing on curse.com if possible |
| 03:41.26 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r146 ProfessionsVault.lua: minor cosmetic improvement |
| 03:42.18 | Repo | 10mob-spells: 03Rabbit * r91 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:42.19 | Repo | * Don't add the same spell name to the Casts line in tooltips many times. This sort of negates the effect of coloring the spell names, but not quite. |
| 03:42.20 | Repo | * Make the Find Target button in the GUI properly search ahead in the tree and select its search result, if any. |
| 03:42.24 | Repo | * Fix toggling the tooltip option. |
| 03:42.25 | Repo | - All drycoded, things probably break. |
| 03:42.42 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03JackTripper * r130 TankPoints.lua: |
| 03:42.43 | Repo | - restored crit reduction (e.g. Sanctuary) to calculation. Still needs player-mob level different effect on miss rates (if any), as well as player-mob level different effect on crit rates (if any) |
| 03:43.21 | vhaarr | Antiarc: if you don't read comments on http://www.wowace.com/addons/mob-spells/ can you please turn off comment support |
| 03:43.26 | vhaarr | I don't read them either |
| 03:44.10 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Change its status to abandoned or deleted. |
| 03:44.22 | mckenziemc | ok |
| 03:44.46 | mckenziemc | and should i make sure to have a local copy of the repo in case it really does get deleted? |
| 03:49.28 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r814 textures (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:49.29 | Repo | - converted DHUD skin from blp to tga because it's acting funny as a blp (ticket #106) |
| 03:50.21 | ckknight | mckenziemc: just set it to abandoned. Your repo won't go away, but feel free to make a copy. |
| 03:50.33 | mckenziemc | thanks |
| 03:51.55 | Parnic | tga worked btw, ckknight. appreciate the tip |
| 03:52.03 | ckknight | np |
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| 04:10.22 | Repo | 244c6b8: Fix right click menu never working on group frames created in combat. |
| 04:10.23 | Repo | 7c71095: Fix problems with pet group frames created in combat showing owner not pet. |
| 04:10.24 | Repo | 58ebded: Ticket #888, Taint problem with group frames created in combat. |
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| 04:15.14 | Jerub | The Looking For Dungeon random bracket for Throne of the Tides and Blackrock Caverns has been changed from level 80-81 to 80-82, and the specific bracket has been changed from level 80-83 to 80-85. |
| 04:15.30 | Jerub | i was wondering why they'd done that. making the specific bracket 80-82 excluded doing them in guild groups |
| 04:15.41 | Jerub | without travelling there |
| 04:20.01 | Repo | 10breakables: 03Parnic * r58 Breakables.lua: |
| 04:20.02 | Repo | - properly parented the Breakables frame to UIParent so that it will go away when the user presses alt-z (thanks slayman). note that this change makes the Breakables frame use the UI Scale specified in video settings so it may initially not be in the same location you last set it to and could be a different size. |
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| 04:41.09 | pompy | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/143381/account-security-alert-gawker-media |
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| 04:43.12 | Hjalte | The droprate on the Precious Locket from Royal Monkfish in Stormwind waters for the Fishing daily quest "Big Gulp" has been increased. |
| 04:43.14 | Hjalte | Woop |
| 04:43.33 | Parnic | thank goodness |
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| 05:00.21 | mckenziemc | besides player inspects and QueryQuestsComplete, are there any other API functions that can only be requested so many times within one time interval? |
| 05:01.07 | mckenziemc | oh, and /who |
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| 05:04.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0.5-58-g773e336 core.lua: [+1 commit] Mark tradeskills from the guild roster as linked, so they aren't considered known by the player. Also, make sure it's not in the SavedVariables if not actually known. |
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| 05:21.31 | Hjalte | http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/14/yahoo-image-search-is-spiked-with-porn/ |
| 05:21.40 | Hjalte | If they did that all the time, I might be more inclined to use Yahoo |
| 05:21.45 | Hjalte | Who's with me?! |
| 05:23.11 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 05:25.20 | mckenziemc | in xml files, is it acceptable to use lowercase for the ui and script tags? |
| 05:25.38 | mckenziemc | as opposed to Ui and Script |
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| 05:46.14 | mckenziemc | it looks like i'm "supposed" to be using the capitalized versions even though the lowercase works and i think the latter looks cleaner for xmls that just have Script/Includes : / |
| 05:46.46 | mckenziemc | another perfectionist question: should i be encoding my files with or without the BOM (utf-8 of course) |
| 05:48.14 | arkanes | there's no such thing as a utf8 bom :( |
| 05:48.18 | arkanes | and no, don't use one |
| 05:50.05 | mckenziemc | well there is but it's useless, from what i've read |
| 05:50.22 | arkanes | it has a long and sordid history |
| 05:50.24 | harl|kpaxed | it makes only sense with foreign characters really |
| 05:50.53 | arkanes | thats not why it doesn't make sense :( |
| 05:51.02 | harl|kpaxed | so if you're planning on including like localizations or something, then i'd recommend a preset utf-8 encoding |
| 05:51.23 | arkanes | if you happen to be using notepad or an equally brainfucked editor that requires the marker, then you need it |
| 05:51.27 | arkanes | don't use one otherwise |
| 05:51.29 | harl|kpaxed | other than that, i don't see a difference |
| 05:51.53 | arkanes | xml doesn't require a marker to determine the encoding, aside from byte order issues in utf16 |
| 05:52.02 | arkanes | which really *are* addressed by the bom |
| 05:54.54 | harl|kpaxed | notepad doesn't even provide an option to change the encoding. so, it's not the editor that presets the encoding , it's the file and the encoding should be deliberately chosen depending on the file's contents. the editor can't automagically do that. |
| 05:55.36 | arkanes | of course it can |
| 05:55.53 | arkanes | the fact that notepad *can't* is why it injects that retarded utf8 "bom" |
| 05:55.54 | harl|kpaxed | only if it is contained in the file |
| 05:56.34 | arkanes | encoding detection isn't solvable in the general case, but as a practical matter its not very hard to get most of the common cases |
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| 05:58.22 | arkanes | which only makes it more terrible how bad notepad is at it :( |
| 05:58.36 | mckenziemc | are there any tools i can use to scan all the text-based files in a directory and tell me if they're not encoded the way i want? |
| 05:59.10 | arkanes | file does encoding detection |
| 05:59.24 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 05:59.33 | arkanes | the unix utility "file" |
| 05:59.49 | mckenziemc | i'm on windows 7 though : / |
| 06:04.08 | arkanes | theres probbaly nothing easily available thats better than just opening it your text editor then |
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| 06:06.31 | harl|kpaxed | which reads/writes a specific bom to the file so every decent editor can recognize the encoding (since most editors don't include a mechanism to thoroughly analyze the actual file contents). |
| 06:06.52 | mckenziemc | i'm using Notepad++ which lets me change the encodings, but i probably have inconsistent encodings throughout my addon projects |
| 06:07.19 | arkanes | thats actually really unlikely |
| 06:07.20 | harl|kpaxed | mixed encodings shouldn't be a problem, for wow. |
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| 06:35.41 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r815 modules/CustomCDBar.lua: |
| 06:35.42 | Repo | - added spell ids for holy word: sanctuary and serenity since GetSpellCooldown() is bugged with them by name |
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| 07:08.42 | tlund | I am new to wowace as a developer, i might be really tired, but I can't find a quickstart guide, how to use wowace as a developer? :) |
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| 07:09.38 | Arrowmaster | kb.wowace.com |
| 07:10.23 | tlund | excellent, thank you Arrowmaster! |
| 07:10.44 | tlund | duuuh.. there is a link to in at the top of them page. ;) |
| 07:20.23 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 07:32.59 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 07:33.52 | Adirelle | Fiskers Fisker. |
| 07:34.04 | Fisker | no Adirelle |
| 07:34.07 | Fisker | don't be a jerk |
| 07:34.13 | Adirelle | aww |
| 07:36.04 | mckenziemc | brisker fisker whisker |
| 07:37.34 | selckin1 | i'm looking for an addon like eavesdrop but that can have 2 diffrend windows for incoming and outgoing |
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| 07:53.37 | Repo | 10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0.5-15-g5c3ae83 Squire2.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed ticket #28. |
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| 08:01.22 | Repo | 10saved_instances: 03tlundse * r120 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial fixes for Cataclysm support |
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| 08:04.42 | apejens | is there any addons that adds debufs to the nameplates? |
| 08:05.36 | apejens | like making sure I have diseases on all enemies around me when DK, or rend/Sunder one veryone etc? |
| 08:10.56 | tlund | the changes i just pushed for saved_instances have been packaged into files now, but they say they are for 3.3.5 where do i change this to 4.0.3a? |
| 08:11.02 | Elkano | aloft doesn't seem to have it so I doubt it |
| 08:11.19 | Elkano | tlund, did you update the TOC? |
| 08:11.53 | Elkano | @project saved_instances |
| 08:11.54 | Repo | Elkano: http://www.wowace.com/addons/saved_instances/. SavedInstances. Game: WoW. jokeyrhyme (Manager/Author/Former author), tlundse (Author/Maintainer). Updated: 8 minutes ago. Tickets: 13/38 |
| 08:13.02 | Elkano | also you can just select the file on wowace and 'edit' it to set the version though with the right toc it should autodetect |
| 08:13.51 | Elkano | ok, you didn't push the toc to 40000 ^^ |
| 08:15.54 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 08:15.58 | Fisker | "Low Battery" |
| 08:16.07 | Fisker | "Remaining battery life: 25 day(s)" |
| 08:17.38 | wink | which addons tamper with the "item stat comparison" in tooltips? |
| 08:17.56 | wink | I got 2 wow installs with different comparisons, and both are incorrect |
| 08:18.13 | wink | as in, not taking enchants, gems or certain stats into accoun |
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| 08:20.06 | mitch0 | the default comparison doesnÃ't take gems and enchants into account (apart from sayinig : +1 green gem and such) |
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| 08:21.56 | wink | couldn't really tell which is default and which is not |
| 08:22.07 | wink | just that both were wrong |
| 08:22.14 | mckenziemc | the one that shows when no addons are enabled :p |
| 08:22.48 | wink | I had better things to do than disable addons |
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| 08:22.55 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 08:23.11 | wink | because it still doesn't tell me which of the 50 addons is to blame |
| 08:23.19 | wink | as only one of those 2 can be default :) |
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| 08:32.19 | Repo | 10saved_instances: 03tlundse * r121 SavedInstances.toc: Bump TOC to 40000 |
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| 08:34.29 | tlund | Elkano: thanks |
| 08:34.51 | Elkano | you're welcome :) |
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| 09:04.29 | mckenziemc | lua> print(string.format("blah")) |
| 09:04.29 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: blah |
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| 09:12.26 | mckenziemc | heh, this almost looks like censored profanity: "%s:%s!" |
| 09:15.19 | mckenziemc | what's the accepted policy on localization and libraries? |
| 09:15.48 | Gnarfoz | what about it? |
| 09:16.02 | mckenziemc | i only need text for errors, should i just leave them unlocalized since these errors should only happen if a programmer messed up |
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| 09:22.10 | mckenziemc | and should i bother optimizing stuff with locals ( local type = type) if it's only meant to be called once for each library that uses it to load |
| 09:22.16 | mckenziemc | @project LibBuilder |
| 09:22.17 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbuilder/. LibBuilder. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. mckenziemc (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 days ago |
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| 09:29.49 | Repo | 10libbuilder (experimental): 03mckenziemc * r8 LibBuilder.lua: added error checking |
| 09:30.01 | Repo | NewLib can now take an optional argument to reuse as the workspace |
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| 09:32.45 | tlund | is there a way to see how many times an alpha has been downloaded? |
| 09:34.06 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r3135 LootTableModules/ (2 files in 2 directories): - ZG and AQ20 done |
| 09:42.47 | ckknight | @describe libbuilder |
| 09:42.48 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbuilder/. LibBuilder. A tool for building multiple-file libraries. |
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| 09:43.41 | mckenziemc | basically it keeps track of a table for you, equivalent to the table that gets passed to each addon file through ... |
| 09:43.45 | Gnarfoz | mhhh |
| 09:43.58 | Gnarfoz | someone tell me the difference between :IsVisible and :IsShown again? |
| 09:44.07 | Repo | 10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r98 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 09:44.08 | Repo | fixed a problem where the process button wouldn't execute pseudotrades |
| 09:44.09 | Repo | smarter selection of which queue entry to process (should result in better grouping of mills/prospects) |
| 09:45.42 | mckenziemc | idk why i keep misspelling "know" >< |
| 09:45.50 | mckenziemc | but i've been doing it a lot lately |
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| 09:53.12 | Arrowmaster | multiple-file libraries? i get the feeling i should just leave now and go back to watching tv |
| 09:53.57 | mckenziemc | i prefer an object-oriented approach to coding, with each class in a separate file : / |
| 09:54.35 | Arrowmaster | lua isnt really an object-oriented language |
| 09:55.37 | mckenziemc | which doesn't really work unless you register a lib and put a loading = true in it, then check from each file; this is a cleaner alternative |
| 09:59.18 | Arrowmaster | ok just looked at your code........ |
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| 09:59.30 | Arrowmaster | i really should just leave now |
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| 10:03.42 | Gnarfoz | lua is not oop, regardless of if you like that approach more |
| 10:04.22 | mckenziemc | it can be |
| 10:04.29 | mckenziemc | you just have to handle it differently |
| 10:04.51 | Arrowmaster | no it can not, it can be OO-like |
| 10:05.37 | mckenziemc | it's not a white vs. black distinction though |
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| 10:23.31 | Primer | ok, I've done some testing. The guild perk of 10% mounted speed doesn't count for druid flight form |
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| 10:24.00 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 10:24.36 | mckenziemc | i hate how you can't use it at the top of water even though they changed flying mounts so that you could |
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| 10:25.31 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6-beta-3-8-g99e79b9 Defaults.lua: [+1 commit] Be smarter with missing spells and items. |
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| 10:39.51 | mckenziemc | !api OnUpdate |
| 10:39.51 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'OnUpdate'. |
| 10:40.14 | mckenziemc | what are the arguments passed to OnUpdate handlers? |
| 10:40.26 | mckenziemc | just elapsed? |
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| 10:44.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:58.34 | Gnarfoz | anyone interested in taking over TidyPlates while the author goes on parental "not much time for coding" leave? ^^ preferably someone who knows what the hell they are doing AND has a high tolerance for odd code? (in actuality, I don't even know anything about TidyPlates' code quality. Just assuming, since many popular projects have shitty code. ;)) http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13674-TidyPlates.html#comments |
| 10:58.52 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 11:08.28 | mckenziemc | do coroutine objects have their metatable __index set to coroutine? ie. could i do someCoroutine:resume(args) ? |
| 11:12.02 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten, ckknight: while it's certainly not new, may I extend once again a big "thank you" for the great idea of author reward points? It's simply great to be able to do some christmas shopping and reduce the total a bit with it. :D |
| 11:12.19 | ckknight | hehe |
| 11:12.29 | mckenziemc | lua> print(coroutine.create(function() end)) |
| 11:12.29 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: thread: 0x8a6ca08 |
| 11:13.03 | mckenziemc | lua> print(coroutine.create(function() end).resume) |
| 11:13.04 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: luabot:1: attempt to index a thread value |
| 11:13.12 | mckenziemc | : ( |
| 11:13.30 | ckknight | mckenziemc: the luabot won't let you. You can do it in WoW, though. |
| 11:13.35 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 11:13.42 | ckknight | afaik |
| 11:14.01 | mckenziemc | well i'll put it in my code and find out when i test it xD |
| 11:14.52 | mckenziemc | oooooohhhhh |
| 11:15.17 | mckenziemc | coroutines would be a great tool to use for making iterator functions, wouldn't they.... |
| 11:15.23 | mckenziemc | err no |
| 11:15.28 | ckknight | they can be done that way |
| 11:15.33 | ckknight | it's horribly imperformant |
| 11:15.37 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 11:15.50 | ckknight | mckenziemc: what language are you normally used to? |
| 11:15.56 | mckenziemc | java |
| 11:17.57 | ckknight | okay |
| 11:18.10 | ckknight | ...booo |
| 11:18.17 | ckknight | that is all |
| 11:18.20 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 11:21.06 | ckknight | does Java have any nice yield syntax? (wrt iterators) |
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| 11:21.54 | mckenziemc | i'm just a college student so i'm not too experienced with it, but not to my knowledge |
| 11:22.24 | ckknight | being a student is no excuse! |
| 11:22.25 | ckknight | :P |
| 11:22.32 | mckenziemc | haha |
| 11:22.42 | ckknight | I'm an autodidact for the most part |
| 11:23.02 | mckenziemc | i would be but i have motivational issues : / |
| 11:23.19 | mckenziemc | i learned C++ by myself but that was before i played WoW >< |
| 11:23.41 | ckknight | now learn like 10 more. |
| 11:23.45 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 11:23.51 | mckenziemc | i want to check out python |
| 11:24.04 | ckknight | that's a good dynamic language |
| 11:24.09 | ckknight | I have my own issues with it, though |
| 11:24.16 | ckknight | I prefer ruby as far as dynamic languages are concerned |
| 11:24.39 | ckknight | I'm a big fan of the functional programming style and passing closures around |
| 11:25.49 | mckenziemc | yeah it's an interesting concept to me |
| 11:25.57 | mckenziemc | took me a while to get a grasp of it though |
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| 11:29.05 | Fisker | hey vhaarr |
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| 11:33.17 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 11:33.17 | vhaarr | heyho |
| 11:33.32 | mckenziemc | blizzard is causing my debugging chat tab to get spammed |
| 11:33.59 | Fisker | mckenziemc are you telling me that Blizzard made your debugging chat tab? |
| 11:35.51 | mckenziemc | "Your AddOns are experiencing a large number of errors and may be slowing down the game." Well maybe that's because you're calling LoadAddOn for Blizzard_DebugTools every time there's an error |
| 11:36.40 | mckenziemc | at the second part |
| 11:41.26 | Megalon | why so offensive Fisker |
| 11:41.28 | mckenziemc | ckknight: indexing a thread doesn't work in-game either |
| 11:42.00 | ckknight | use the correct functions. |
| 11:42.16 | ckknight | coroutine.resume(myThread) |
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| 11:45.24 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 11:45.51 | mckenziemc | i had asked if myThread:resume() was valid, but it isn't |
| 11:46.47 | Kalroth | wow, there's threading for addons in WoW now? |
| 11:47.58 | mckenziemc | it's not multithreaded |
| 11:48.05 | mckenziemc | just voluntary yielded |
| 11:48.10 | mckenziemc | yielding* |
| 11:48.16 | Kalroth | oh okay |
| 11:49.28 | Fisker | Megalon the battery in my mouse is almost depleted |
| 11:51.34 | mckenziemc | then replace it |
| 11:54.19 | Fisker | but i only have 25 days |
| 11:57.12 | mckenziemc | does WoW run as "lua / render frame / lua / render / lua / render" with no overlap? or does the game start lua's cycle at the same time it starts rendering the last frame, then once they're both done, start both for the next frame |
| 11:57.17 | mckenziemc | or something else? |
| 12:00.09 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 12:00.27 | mckenziemc | ~rip repo |
| 12:00.27 | purl | ACTION takes repo and acts as Jack The Ripper |
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| 12:01.58 | krka_ | mckenziemc: it's single threaded |
| 12:02.46 | mckenziemc | wow uses multiple cores though doesn't it? what does it do with the other cores? |
| 12:02.58 | Kalroth | Mainly sound rendering |
| 12:03.16 | Kalroth | And probably also background downloader |
| 12:04.39 | Megalon | buy a new mouse Fisker |
| 12:05.04 | mckenziemc | is there such a thing as a multi-thread aware scripting language? |
| 12:05.35 | mckenziemc | buy a new Fisker, Megalon |
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| 12:07.50 | Gnarfoz | php, mckenziemc? |
| 12:08.28 | Gnarfoz | and yes, lua is executed for each frame... that's why addons can cause fps slowdowns in the first place |
| 12:08.40 | Gnarfoz | it's a probably the single biggest issue the wow addon system has :p |
| 12:08.43 | Gnarfoz | -a |
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| 12:12.47 | mckenziemc | Gnarfoz: yeah, i'm playing around with an addon that could be used by other addons to lessen their impact on fps |
| 12:13.06 | mckenziemc | by having mine call them for most but not all frames |
| 12:13.54 | Gnarfoz | I doubt that's going to accomplish much; anyone proficient enough to a) discover about your addon and b) know how to make use of it will probably be proficient enough to achieve the same on their own |
| 12:14.22 | mckenziemc | carbonite was really bad about that, caused a drop of ~10 fps with the map open |
| 12:14.57 | krka_ | it's not about being to replicate the code, it's about making sure the code doesn't run as often |
| 12:15.05 | krka_ | the map in wow is a good example |
| 12:15.22 | mckenziemc | Gnarfoz: i originally thought of it for batch processing (like auctioneer's after-scan processing and Route's optimizing |
| 12:15.30 | mckenziemc | krka_: i don't understand |
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| 12:17.05 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: auctioneer's after scan processing already does exactly what you describe |
| 12:17.12 | mckenziemc | not very well |
| 12:17.22 | Gnarfoz | not well enough for your liking |
| 12:17.27 | mckenziemc | right |
| 12:17.28 | Gnarfoz | it used to completely stop the client |
| 12:17.37 | Gnarfoz | you can just dial down the frequency if you like |
| 12:17.42 | Gnarfoz | and Routes also does it, that's what the "background" button is for |
| 12:17.51 | Gnarfoz | the foreground option explicitly says it'll lock up the client |
| 12:18.01 | mckenziemc | i know |
| 12:18.13 | Gnarfoz | (and Routes' background choice executes way less often than auctioneer's one) |
| 12:18.49 | mckenziemc | routes' background processing does a good job of not getting in the way, but on the other hand that means maybe it could afford to run more cycles per frame |
| 12:19.09 | mckenziemc | i haven't actually looked at how they do it; i really should |
| 12:19.58 | mckenziemc | but i'm playing around with the idea of a library / addon combo that accepts batch jobs from other addons and takes care of throttling it |
| 12:20.04 | Gnarfoz | either they're using a heavily throttled onupdate or coroutines, either way is fine, I guess |
| 12:20.35 | mckenziemc | and bases the throttling on framerate instead of an arbitrary number of cycles per second (i'm guessing that's how they do it but maybe they do something more advanced) |
| 12:20.36 | Gnarfoz | hehe, well, I guess that was the idea behind AceEvent, initially |
| 12:21.02 | Gnarfoz | I think they both do something /less/ advanced: just execute at a fixed rate (auctioneer's being higher than routes') |
| 12:23.52 | mckenziemc | sleep time |
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| 13:40.10 | ThiefMaster | uh how do i make the wow launcher "forget" about a certian language? |
| 13:40.19 | ThiefMaster | just deleted my old unused deDE stuff and now it wants to re-download it |
| 13:46.31 | ThiefMaster | nvm, looks like deleting deDE and restarting the launcher again fixed it |
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| 13:57.40 | Gnarfoz | http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldfownuWjE1qzpwi0o1_500.png |
| 13:59.43 | Megalon | where did you get a list of my passwords Gnarfoz |
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| 14:00.25 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: wikileaks |
| 14:01.22 | Megalon | time to kill mr assange |
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| 14:06.05 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar * r285 / (8 files in 2 directories): merge in modifications from the working clone |
| 14:07.09 | sylvanaar | subversion cloned repos dont seem to want to merge with each other |
| 14:07.38 | sylvanaar | wants to convert to Hg |
| 14:08.16 | sylvanaar | isnt going to though |
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| 14:22.12 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r292 WIM.toc: set the version tag to be project version |
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| 14:23.36 | sylvanaar | crap |
| 14:23.48 | sylvanaar | ok, need to delete my working copy |
| 14:26.15 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar * r287 WIM.toc: aet the version tag to be project version |
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| 14:37.23 | Slayman | sylvanaar: have you taken over WiM now? |
| 14:38.24 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 14:41.16 | KriLL3 | why does the wow launcher start IE for links you click even if IE is not your default browser? :< |
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| 14:48.02 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: bad devs? :D |
| 14:56.36 | Slayman | sylvanaar: you are a good one, let me know if you need some testing done |
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| 14:56.53 | sylvanaar | i do, the bnet stuff still isnt fixed looks like |
| 14:57.07 | sylvanaar | im going to have to make another beta |
| 14:57.28 | sylvanaar | actually, i think im going to enable alphas |
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| 15:04.09 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar * r288 Modules/WhisperEngine.lua: better fix for the bnet errors. needs LOTS of testing |
| 15:06.58 | Parnic | what's all this wim3 nonsense |
| 15:07.04 | sylvanaar | shh |
| 15:08.15 | sylvanaar | wierd how it works on one toon but not the other |
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| 15:09.18 | steev | wim3 RULES |
| 15:09.23 | steev | what's wim3 |
| 15:09.32 | sylvanaar | im type thing |
| 15:09.36 | steev | ah |
| 15:09.39 | Megalon | Fisker, do you have an e-guitar fetish |
| 15:09.40 | steev | i use that at work, not at home |
| 15:09.53 | steev | for some reason i can't link achievements into the wim window |
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| 15:11.39 | sylvanaar | you mean they become non-clickable? |
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| 15:12.04 | steev | no |
| 15:12.12 | sylvanaar | i just did |
| 15:12.17 | steev | i get a red error message about the achievement already being completed |
| 15:12.23 | sylvanaar | it worked |
| 15:12.37 | steev | i'll have to download the latest and give it a shot then |
| 15:12.50 | steev | wait, 3.4.2? |
| 15:13.05 | sylvanaar | so i released a bunk beta - i have to re-release this version now |
| 15:13.22 | sylvanaar | anyone feel like testing realid with wim |
| 15:13.29 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-60-gc1a3632 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 15:13.30 | Repo | c1a3632: Ticket 1116. |
| 15:13.31 | Repo | 8b95db0: Ticket 1117. In memory of Master Chief. |
| 15:14.28 | apejens | sylvanaar: what you need tested? |
| 15:14.56 | sylvanaar | just to see if you can send realid whispers to and from people without errors |
| 15:15.02 | sylvanaar | using the current alpha build |
| 15:15.22 | apejens | no, I get a "No player named 'real name' currently playing |
| 15:15.24 | sylvanaar | its working for me |
| 15:15.33 | sylvanaar | are you on the current alpha though? |
| 15:16.07 | sylvanaar | i have seen that error though, so maybe its still broke |
| 15:16.22 | steev | sylvanaar: i'd love to |
| 15:16.29 | apejens | latest trough curseclient |
| 15:16.29 | steev | just point me to the zip |
| 15:16.33 | sylvanaar | i think it works once you have recieved a tell from someone else |
| 15:16.40 | steev | i'm at work, so linux |
| 15:16.46 | steev | no curseclient here |
| 15:16.55 | apejens | sylvanaar: I got a nasty error of wrong calling of a BN-function before I upgraded |
| 15:16.55 | sylvanaar | yeah, im putting alphas on curse client, or the http://www.wowace.com/addons/wim-3/files/ |
| 15:17.39 | sylvanaar | if someone sends you a bnet whisper, then you can send them whispers from then on even if you close the window |
| 15:17.59 | sylvanaar | so that part is working at least |
| 15:17.59 | apejens | problem with "presenceID" vs indeX? |
| 15:18.11 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 15:18.15 | sylvanaar | something liket hat |
| 15:19.46 | steev | got another recruitment letter from the goog last night |
| 15:19.51 | sylvanaar | man its working on one character but not another |
| 15:20.34 | apejens | how are you using the presenceID? cause it changes all the time |
| 15:21.10 | sylvanaar | it changes per-session, no? |
| 15:21.10 | steev | bleh |
| 15:21.12 | steev | figures |
| 15:21.18 | steev | none of my realid friends are on |
| 15:21.21 | apejens | it doesn't change per reload ui |
| 15:21.28 | apejens | but it changes when you change characters |
| 15:21.32 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats fine |
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| 15:23.16 | sylvanaar | i just want to fix the error for now |
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| 15:24.01 | sylvanaar | i cant get it to fail now |
| 15:24.20 | sylvanaar | does it still not work for you apejens |
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| 15:25.06 | apejens | I@m on r288 |
| 15:25.13 | apejens | and still cant send tell to mye online friend |
| 15:25.34 | sylvanaar | how are you doing it? /w name? |
| 15:25.45 | sylvanaar | or right click on the friend frame? |
| 15:26.10 | apejens | clicking Send message in the friend frame |
| 15:26.14 | apejens | that opens the wim-window |
| 15:26.20 | sylvanaar | try the other way |
| 15:26.26 | apejens | note: I'm trying to send to his Real ID, not character |
| 15:26.34 | apejens | how do I /w <real name>? |
| 15:26.44 | sylvanaar | just like that |
| 15:26.48 | sylvanaar | use tab complete |
| 15:27.00 | apejens | it opens the same wim-window, and same error |
| 15:27.10 | sylvanaar | have your friend message you |
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| 15:27.27 | apejens | hes afk :( |
| 15:27.29 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 15:27.37 | sylvanaar | i hate testing realid |
| 15:28.11 | sylvanaar | let me exit the game, maybe that will make it fail |
| 15:28.27 | Clamgormoraunt | having an issue with a commit keeps telling me authentication failed, any ideas? |
| 15:30.39 | Repo | 10pitbull4_healthflash: 03fammy2k * r4 PitBull4_HealthFlash.toc: v4.0.0-beta19 |
| 15:30.40 | Repo | * Match Pitbull4 version |
| 15:30.50 | sylvanaar | yeah thats it |
| 15:30.57 | Repo | 10pitbull4_visualhelpers: 03fammy2k * r4 PitBull4_VisualHelpers.toc: v4.0.0-beta19 |
| 15:30.58 | Repo | * Match Pitbull4 version |
| 15:31.30 | sylvanaar | apejens: do this, click the wim icon and delete the window |
| 15:31.43 | sylvanaar | then try the whisper from the command line |
| 15:31.46 | sylvanaar | it should work |
| 15:32.07 | Repo | 10pitbull4_visualhelpers: 03fammy2k 04v4.0.0-beta19 * r5 : Version: v4.0.0-beta19 |
| 15:32.08 | Repo | * Match Pitbull4 version |
| 15:32.08 | apejens | yeah |
| 15:32.21 | sylvanaar | it only doesnt work if the window is created from the right click on the friends frame |
| 15:32.31 | Repo | 10craftdb: 03Gorilivan * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated 4.0 |
| 15:32.32 | Repo | Changed get: to self: |
| 15:32.47 | sylvanaar | right click should work now that you have created the window |
| 15:32.55 | Clamgormoraunt | nvm caps fixed it |
| 15:32.59 | Repo | 10pitbull4_healthflash: 03fammy2k 04v4.0.0-beta19 * r5 : Version: v4.0.0-beta19 |
| 15:33.00 | Repo | * Match Pitbull4 version |
| 15:33.57 | apejens | sylvanaar: nope, if I shift-close the window, it breaks again |
| 15:34.07 | sylvanaar | right |
| 15:34.14 | sylvanaar | that deletes the window |
| 15:34.22 | apejens | o |
| 15:34.24 | apejens | k |
| 15:34.48 | sylvanaar | so whispers from the command line are working now looks like - only right click is broken |
| 15:34.58 | apejens | mhm |
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| 15:35.12 | apejens | where in WIM is this code? |
| 15:35.45 | sylvanaar | what do you mean |
| 15:35.47 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 15:35.58 | sylvanaar | modules/whisperengine.lua |
| 15:37.11 | sylvanaar | i need to see how the friendsframe opens up a chat to a realid |
| 15:39.36 | apejens | too complex for my limited lua experience at least :p |
| 15:40.29 | sylvanaar | oh man |
| 15:40.44 | sylvanaar | its going to require hooking the friendsframe i think |
| 15:40.57 | sylvanaar | thats going to have to wait |
| 15:42.16 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-63-gc02f7ac Database/Cooking.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 15:42.17 | Repo | c02f7ac: Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops quest was removed, marking it as retired. Still BOE's laying around probably. |
| 15:42.18 | Repo | a998ac4: Dig Rat Stew seems to be gone from the game, making it retired for now. |
| 15:42.19 | Repo | 0d28dc6: Thistle Tea quest has been removed from the game. |
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| 15:42.40 | Ackis | hides from pompy |
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| 15:46.26 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar 043.5.0b2 * r289 : Tagging as 3.5.0b2 |
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| 16:06.52 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar * r290 WIM.lua: update the admessageeventfilter runner |
| 16:08.46 | Slayman | OMG Nazi- nerdgasm in uldum: "you only brought me eight idols, I said: " "NINE NINE NINE " |
| 16:10.38 | Dessa | lol. |
| 16:16.34 | nevcairiel | schnotz and his turkey gobbles |
| 16:16.37 | nevcairiel | need more hints |
| 16:16.37 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:17.16 | nevcairiel | Also "The Desert Fox" |
| 16:18.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-66-g65deb5d / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 16:18.36 | nevcairiel | the whole series is a typical indiana jones move, fighting the 3rd reich for an artifact :p |
| 16:18.36 | Repo | 65deb5d: Typo fix and add a few more recipes. |
| 16:18.37 | Repo | 717c066: Add runed elementium rod. |
| 16:18.39 | Repo | f647c2b: Add the enchanting pet recipes. |
| 16:18.41 | nevcairiel | movie* |
| 16:19.07 | Ackis | plus the Indiana Jones reference |
| 16:19.27 | nevcairiel | You mean, like, the name of the npc |
| 16:19.30 | nevcairiel | harrison jones |
| 16:19.30 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:20.07 | Ackis | the whole movie theme was a hint is what I was getting at... The Raiders of the Lost Ark had Indy battling against Nazi's |
| 16:20.14 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:20.54 | nevcairiel | i should watch that movie again |
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| 16:21.22 | Clamgormoraunt | they played em all this past weekend |
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| 16:21.30 | KriLL3 | NEIN NEIN NEIN! |
| 16:21.41 | KriLL3 | YOU BROUGHT ME 8!?!?! |
| 16:21.44 | nevcairiel | I have it on bluray, such a classic one gotta get |
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| 16:22.20 | Clamgormoraunt | bluray? i still have the originals on vhs. |
| 16:22.23 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar * r291 Modules/WhisperEngine.lua: |
| 16:22.24 | Repo | allow sending of a whisper by rightclicking the name on the friends frame |
| 16:22.29 | KriLL3 | I can't use VHS |
| 16:22.30 | nevcairiel | I dont even have a player |
| 16:22.44 | nevcairiel | anymore, that is |
| 16:22.59 | Clamgormoraunt | don't use it no more but still have an old top loader in the closet that works |
| 16:23.14 | KriLL3 | optical media is almost as dead to me, I don't have an optical drive on any of my machines, I just use a IDE to USB thingy when I need to use a disk |
| 16:23.22 | KriLL3 | I got large USB sticks instead |
| 16:23.27 | nevcairiel | Thats the good thing about the old movies, they were all filmed on analog film, which has an awesome quality, with some cleaning up it makes for good high quality digital material |
| 16:23.34 | KriLL3 | can even install windows from a usb stick, and faster at that |
| 16:23.57 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: if the film is good enough, a lot of movies at some point where shot on horrible stock |
| 16:24.04 | KriLL3 | that soft blur effect |
| 16:24.18 | nevcairiel | I suppose |
| 16:24.24 | nevcairiel | but only good movies are worth buying anyway |
| 16:24.31 | KriLL3 | and if the film was kept in a good place |
| 16:24.37 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar 043.5.0b3 * r292 : Tagging as 3.5.0b3 |
| 16:25.41 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: fuck old movies, give me movies that were never copied to anything analog from shooting to bluray release :D |
| 16:25.57 | nevcairiel | all new movies are filmed in digital |
| 16:26.00 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: actually movies on good film look stunning in blu-ray |
| 16:26.04 | KriLL3 | IMAX is film |
| 16:26.17 | Gnarfoz | of course imax is film, what's your point? |
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| 16:26.25 | Gnarfoz | 4k digital filmed material looks BETTER. |
| 16:26.26 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 16:26.35 | nevcairiel | doesnt have to |
| 16:26.39 | nevcairiel | analog resolutions are much higher |
| 16:26.42 | KriLL3 | just saying, just because the source is analog doesn't mean it's bad |
| 16:26.52 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no shit, but they aren't scanned at 4k most of the time. |
| 16:27.09 | Gnarfoz | it certainly takes less effort for digitally filmed stuff to look crystal clear, than it takes for analog material to do the same |
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| 16:27.44 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r804 GrimBatol (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:27.47 | Repo | Don't enable module if you mouseover/target Umbriss or Drahga during the mounted portion of the instance. |
| 16:27.50 | nevcairiel | probably. New stuff is all digital anyhow. On what resolution i cannot say. But some scans of old movies look really good |
| 16:28.01 | Gnarfoz | new stuff is all digital? you delude yourself. |
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| 16:28.10 | Gnarfoz | barely anything is shot digitally |
| 16:28.40 | Gnarfoz | most of the stuff is still shot analogue and scanned at 2k (which, of course, with todays tech, still looks great) |
| 16:29.23 | nevcairiel | Only older tv shows usually look like crap, they were only aimed at small tv screens, so they didnt go for high quality things. But on bluray, still looks blurry :( |
| 16:29.45 | Gnarfoz | that's really sad, true |
| 16:29.54 | Gnarfoz | babylon 5 m( |
| 16:30.06 | Jedi- | is there an addon for the new raid marker things yet? Just a frame that is easier to hide/show i mean since you gotta hide the whole crappy thing for the blizzard frame |
| 16:30.11 | Jedi- | cause it uuuuglehhh |
| 16:30.14 | Gnarfoz | Jedi-: |
| 16:30.15 | nevcairiel | ntsc had what, 480 scan lines .. today its 1080.. |
| 16:30.17 | Gnarfoz | @project smoker |
| 16:30.18 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/smoker/. Smoker. Game: WoW. Fionnka (Manager/Author). Updated: 51 days ago |
| 16:30.29 | sylvanaar | apejens: do you have time to check my fix for right-click |
| 16:30.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: 480 and interlaced. and HORRIBLE colour stability. PAL ftw |
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| 16:30.40 | Gnarfoz | at least compared to NTSC... |
| 16:30.46 | Jedi- | oh nice |
| 16:30.47 | Jedi- | cheers |
| 16:30.49 | nevcairiel | pal is 576 and usually still interlaced |
| 16:30.53 | nevcairiel | not much better |
| 16:30.54 | Gnarfoz | either are horrible crap compared to even 720p |
| 16:31.20 | Gnarfoz | but pal has way better colour stability... and yes, resolution is increased a bit, and of course, nearly all TV is interlaced :( |
| 16:31.38 | nevcairiel | 1080p isnt even a valid standard for HDTV |
| 16:31.45 | nevcairiel | they are like, 720p, 1080i, or gtfo |
| 16:31.47 | groktar | i thought it was substandard |
| 16:31.47 | KriLL3 | NTSC is american, nuff said ;) |
| 16:31.48 | Gnarfoz | it is, just not for broadcast |
| 16:32.07 | ulic | Gnarfoz: so smoker will drop the new magical floating deals instead of smoke I assume? Haven't had a chance to try it yet. |
| 16:32.09 | Gnarfoz | I don't care, really, I don't watch TV. but modern tech STILL suffers from bad decisions made by the inventors of old tech |
| 16:32.22 | nevcairiel | interlaced makes sense for tube tvs |
| 16:32.25 | KriLL3 | yeah legacy is an issue |
| 16:32.27 | Gnarfoz | ulic: screenshot is probably old. the smokes don't exist anymore, they got replaced with the floaty glowy things |
| 16:32.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it did, yes... |
| 16:32.55 | Gnarfoz | but they mainly did it because they couldn't broadcast progressive material because of bandwidth limitations |
| 16:33.38 | Gnarfoz | legacy compat holding us back in so many tech things, I wish some companies had bigger balls and would get rid of some of the old stuff |
| 16:34.01 | nevcairiel | turning of interlaced would be a big outcry, i dont see that happening :P |
| 16:34.15 | nevcairiel | everyone with a tube tv would be fucked |
| 16:34.34 | Gnarfoz | there's tube tvs that do it |
| 16:34.38 | KriLL3 | I hate that the vast majority of TV isn't HD yet |
| 16:35.02 | groktar | i do not acknowledge the existence of non-hdtv |
| 16:35.18 | Gnarfoz | also, they could use the new found bandwidth they gained with DVB-T to (instead of polluting the programming with even more useless channels) offer both interlaced and progressive of the same program :D |
| 16:35.18 | nevcairiel | Actually, now that i think about it, i dont think ntsc is actually interlaced |
| 16:35.19 | KriLL3 | even worse a lot of TV is badly done aspect ratio wise |
| 16:35.20 | nevcairiel | its telecined |
| 16:35.24 | Gnarfoz | it's interlaced |
| 16:35.27 | Gnarfoz | telecine is something else |
| 16:35.50 | KriLL3 | why on earth does TV insist on stretching/zooming 4:3 content? |
| 16:35.55 | nevcairiel | telecine is often mistaken for interlaced content |
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| 16:36.12 | nevcairiel | if you watch it without inverse telecine, it looks interlaced |
| 16:36.18 | Gnarfoz | what you say contains the important parts: telecine is something done on content; interlace is a transmission thing |
| 16:36.37 | Gnarfoz | hmm hungry AGAIN |
| 16:36.40 | Gnarfoz | what is it today |
| 16:36.40 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:36.44 | groktar | noms Gnarfoz |
| 16:36.44 | nevcairiel | telecine is also basically a transmission thing. You take a 24p movie, and make 30 half-frames out of it |
| 16:37.46 | KriLL3 | sounds like a horrible idea |
| 16:38.17 | nevcairiel | telecine is 100% perfectly reversible |
| 16:38.20 | nevcairiel | so its ok'ish |
| 16:38.25 | nevcairiel | not like interlacing |
| 16:38.29 | nevcairiel | whcih drops information |
| 16:40.09 | Gnarfoz | 24fps needs to die anyway, but as long as content is made in that format, natively displaying it that way is probably preferable to telecine or doubling its framerate to 48fps |
| 16:40.27 | KriLL3 | anyone spotted patchnotes for the patch btw? launcher gives me the cata one |
| 16:40.34 | nevcairiel | there is no patch |
| 16:40.35 | Gnarfoz | there was no patch. |
| 16:40.37 | nevcairiel | just a tools update |
| 16:40.43 | KriLL3 | errm, yes there was 8MB |
| 16:40.47 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 16:40.51 | Gnarfoz | why do people insist on confusing tools updates with game updates |
| 16:40.51 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:41.08 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: since I've never heard of a tools update before? |
| 16:41.12 | nevcairiel | what works out pretty good is speeding up 24p to 25fps (pal speed), as long as you use a tool to correct the pitch of the audio |
| 16:41.20 | nevcairiel | can run it perfectly on a 50hz screen |
| 16:41.22 | Gnarfoz | then you've not been paying attention: they've been around for a year or more :D |
| 16:41.28 | nevcairiel | encountered much less issues then natice 24p playback |
| 16:41.30 | Gnarfoz | also called launcher updates |
| 16:41.33 | KriLL3 | I haven't been playing during that time |
| 16:41.39 | Gnarfoz | your loss :> |
| 16:41.44 | KriLL3 | not really |
| 16:42.11 | Gnarfoz | also, launcher says "loading updated tools" and the UAC prompt for the downloader contains the filename again ^^ |
| 16:42.21 | Gnarfoz | (and don't tell me "i've got uac turned off!" :P) |
| 16:42.31 | KriLL3 | I just saw wowupdate |
| 16:42.37 | nevcairiel | i dont, but i dont get a uac prompt for the launcher |
| 16:42.42 | nevcairiel | do you have it in a protected area? |
| 16:42.51 | KriLL3 | no |
| 16:42.52 | Gnarfoz | no, but highest setting, because all lower settings are broken |
| 16:42.54 | KriLL3 | wow is on D:\ |
| 16:42.58 | nevcairiel | same |
| 16:42.59 | nevcairiel | still |
| 16:43.16 | Gnarfoz | hmmm, weird, then? mine is in C:\FastGames\WoW (which is obviously a custom path) |
| 16:43.25 | KriLL3 | wow-4.0.0.2104-enUS-tools-patch |
| 16:43.25 | nevcairiel | your C is a SSD, eh |
| 16:43.26 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 16:43.28 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 16:43.30 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 16:43.35 | KriLL3 | X28-M |
| 16:43.37 | KriLL3 | 80GB |
| 16:43.40 | nevcairiel | mine too, but i didnt rename it FastGames, just Games :P |
| 16:43.44 | Gnarfoz | Crucial RealSSD C-300 |
| 16:43.50 | nevcairiel | same, 256gb |
| 16:43.59 | groktar | i put mine in users/public/games |
| 16:44.05 | ulic | does reloading the UI also reload xml files from addons? |
| 16:44.06 | KriLL3 | why? |
| 16:44.07 | Gnarfoz | you're rich (read: you earn way more curse points than me!), only got the 128gb :D |
| 16:44.13 | Gnarfoz | ulic: yes |
| 16:44.20 | nevcairiel | the small ones are speed limited |
| 16:44.26 | nevcairiel | was either the big one, or another model |
| 16:44.27 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware, but barely |
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| 16:44.36 | groktar | i thought the 128 and 256 were the same speed |
| 16:44.40 | groktar | the 64 was the slow one |
| 16:44.51 | nevcairiel | the 64 is really slow |
| 16:45.03 | Gnarfoz | nah, the 256 is even faster than the 128, but I found the diff to be rather irrelevant |
| 16:45.19 | Gnarfoz | (since mine is on a sata2 controller anyway, haha -.-) |
| 16:45.36 | Gnarfoz | until sandy bridge, that is <: |
| 16:45.37 | KriLL3 | yeah the X25-M is in that boat as well |
| 16:45.37 | nevcairiel | that diff is around 10-15% |
| 16:45.45 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: naw, put it on the PCI-e bus |
| 16:45.50 | KriLL3 | don't need SATA3 |
| 16:46.03 | nevcairiel | because sata drives plug into pci-e now :) |
| 16:46.04 | Gnarfoz | ...? |
| 16:46.08 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 16:46.12 | KriLL3 | no silly |
| 16:46.20 | KriLL3 | but there are SSDs that plug into PCI-e |
| 16:46.26 | Gnarfoz | yes, there are, do I own one? no |
| 16:46.28 | nevcairiel | but they cost an arm and a leg |
| 16:46.38 | Gnarfoz | RevoDrive and such |
| 16:46.43 | KriLL3 | fetches his machete |
| 16:46.45 | Gnarfoz | also, they are NOT that much faster, :D |
| 16:46.48 | KriLL3 | which arm do you want to keep? |
| 16:46.51 | nevcairiel | there are some that are |
| 16:46.55 | Gnarfoz | I'll offer one of nevcairiel's |
| 16:46.56 | nevcairiel | they are like 2000, though |
| 16:48.32 | KriLL3 | anyone knows where to get shoulder enchants in cata? wowwiki is mum on the subject |
| 16:48.41 | Gnarfoz | wowwiki is dead |
| 16:48.44 | Gnarfoz | www.wowpedia.org |
| 16:48.46 | groktar | exalted therazane? |
| 16:48.51 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: wha? |
| 16:48.55 | Gnarfoz | and yes, therazane and inscription. |
| 16:48.58 | groktar | i just levelled inscription |
| 16:49.13 | Gnarfoz | inscription offers /nothing/ else, though, kind of a dead profession for now |
| 16:49.30 | groktar | i made some super easy gold from it |
| 16:49.51 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: wikia got even more arseholey with the ads and interference in their business, so most of the wowwiki staff left and forked the project to wowpedia.org, which is now the official fansite and whatnot |
| 16:49.58 | groktar | there are some reagents for making the offhands/relics |
| 16:50.09 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: ah, content carried over I take it? |
| 16:50.15 | groktar | only sold by a vendor in twilight highlands, all limited quantity |
| 16:50.15 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: fully, yes |
| 16:50.31 | Gnarfoz | groktar: well, you can make money off of those even without inscription. :D |
| 16:50.36 | groktar | i was buying them out for a couple days because i thought they would actually be useful |
| 16:50.48 | groktar | so i had a ton |
| 16:50.56 | groktar | and then they stopped spawning on the vendor |
| 16:51.01 | groktar | for 4 days now |
| 16:51.06 | groktar | been selling them for 500g+ |
| 16:51.07 | groktar | kekeke |
| 16:51.13 | KriLL3 | yay, I've actually contributed to wowwiki a whole lot |
| 16:51.22 | KriLL3 | got bored during long flights etc |
| 16:51.39 | KriLL3 | mostly the sons of holdir daily stuff |
| 16:52.13 | KriLL3 | had like 4 quests listed when I visited it |
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| 16:57.12 | KriLL3 | someone should poison the wowwiki DNS to point at wowpedia |
| 16:57.23 | Gnarfoz | right, what are, you 14? |
| 16:57.30 | KriLL3 | no just childish |
| 16:58.06 | Megalon | someone should poison KriLL3 |
| 16:58.12 | KriLL3 | bah, wish there was a quick way to change the wowwiki part of all my bookmarks to wowpedia |
| 16:58.17 | KriLL3 | Megalon: rogues always do |
| 16:58.58 | KriLL3 | hmm, actually wowpedia is mum on cata enchants as well |
| 16:59.14 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Enchantments_by_slot |
| 16:59.50 | KriLL3 | is mongoose from BC still best feral weapon ench? =P |
| 17:00.41 | KriLL3 | ah blizzard, ferals sure don't fit into your little equation |
| 17:01.50 | arkanes | wow I just learned that chrome has a neat new feature |
| 17:02.19 | ramoz | tell us! |
| 17:02.23 | arkanes | somehow it knows that some sites have search interfaces? I guess? so if I start typing wowhead and hit tab, I get a "search wowhead" entry |
| 17:02.37 | groktar | onkeyup |
| 17:02.46 | arkanes | no, its happening in the address bar |
| 17:02.57 | KriLL3 | I think it uses the site: thing google has |
| 17:03.13 | KriLL3 | it knows wowhead is a site, and it adds the site: part to the search |
| 17:03.20 | arkanes | no, its using wowheads search |
| 17:03.30 | arkanes | I think wowhead must advertise itself as a search provider somehow |
| 17:04.01 | KriLL3 | doubt it |
| 17:04.23 | arkanes | indeed it is |
| 17:04.33 | arkanes | wowhead is showing under "other search engines" |
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| 17:04.56 | arkanes | there must be some sort of autodiscovery happening somewhere since I certainly didn't install it by hand |
| 17:05.10 | arkanes | and theres a bunch of other sites in there that I'm pretty sure don't do anything special |
| 17:05.46 | Parnic | <link rel="search" type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" href="http://static.wowhead.com/download/searchplugins/wowhead.xml" title="Wowhead" /> |
| 17:05.49 | KriLL3 | it's part of the head portion of a site, search |
| 17:05.56 | arkanes | that might be it |
| 17:06.01 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 17:06.13 | KriLL3 | in firefox you get the option to add that site as as search engine when you visit |
| 17:06.27 | arkanes | looks like its autoimported in chrome |
| 17:07.04 | KriLL3 | not the same deal |
| 17:07.16 | KriLL3 | you add it to the search bar in FF |
| 17:07.29 | arkanes | it is the same deal |
| 17:07.47 | arkanes | chrome just has handy access to alternate search engines |
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| 17:09.58 | wink | q wh <itemname> is my search engine in Firefox :P |
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| 17:14.13 | KriLL3 | arkanes: you don't get it, chrome and FF don't search in the same manner |
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| 17:14.29 | KriLL3 | FF got a search bar you add engines to, which gives more control |
| 17:14.39 | arkanes | I'm pretty sure I get it exactly |
| 17:14.51 | arkanes | but we're all good here |
| 17:15.34 | KriLL3 | urgh, why do I keep getting EOTS with a ratio of 1:3 healers on the enemy side and 0 on mine? |
| 17:15.50 | KriLL3 | impossible to get a single kill unless you gank some loner going somewhere |
| 17:15.55 | KriLL3 | not to mention winning |
| 17:16.39 | KriLL3 | blizz really should try to balance the roles |
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| 17:27.18 | industrial | uhm |
| 17:27.25 | industrial | gathermate2 isn't available on wowace? |
| 17:29.51 | industrial | Xinhuan: ^ |
| 17:29.54 | KriLL3 | it's on the curse client |
| 17:30.01 | industrial | I don't use the curse client. |
| 17:30.09 | Xinhuan | why would it not be on wowace |
| 17:30.15 | Xinhuan | @project gathermate2 |
| 17:30.16 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gathermate2/. GatherMate2. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author), Nevcairiel (Author), Xinhuan (Author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 2/13 |
| 17:30.23 | industrial | I dunno, http://www.wowace.com/search/?search=gathermate2 doesnt list it |
| 17:30.41 | Xinhuan | wowace search has always been borked |
| 17:30.45 | industrial | oh |
| 17:30.58 | KriLL3 | industrial: try google instead |
| 17:31.04 | KriLL3 | site: wowace.com gathermate2 |
| 17:31.36 | KriLL3 | wowace should have shifted their search to google long ago |
| 17:31.55 | industrial | yea I got it already but I was just wondering why it wasn't in that list |
| 17:38.46 | Gnarfoz | custom search implementations tend to suck horse ass |
| 17:40.49 | KriLL3 | isn't wowace built on some CMS? |
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| 17:43.49 | apejens | sylvanaar: sorry, was afk, can check now? |
| 17:44.43 | KriLL3 | or is wowace custom PHP? |
| 17:45.01 | apejens | sylvanaar: seems the latest beta works? |
| 17:45.13 | apejens | at least I can shift-click the window now, then click send message and it works? |
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| 17:45.35 | sylvanaar | thanks for checking |
| 17:45.50 | apejens | you're welcome, sorry for the delay :) |
| 17:46.12 | Balreign | Hi guys. Just a simple question. When I look to wowhead I find for exemple the critter "Rabid Nut Varmint 5000" with ID 49774, But when I look in the game and when I parse the GUID in game I find that the critter ID is 28160. Am I wrong? |
| 17:51.29 | Xinhuan | how are you parsing it |
| 17:51.43 | Xinhuan | exact code |
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| 17:56.21 | Balreign | using the one from wowprogramming.com |
| 17:56.42 | Xinhuan | oh just paste the revelant line here (1 line!) |
| 17:57.30 | Balreign | local creatureID = tonumber("0x"..strsub(guid,9,12)) |
| 17:59.16 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken 04v0.7 * r66 : Tagging as v0.7 |
| 18:00.23 | Balreign | the parse function can be found here http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types#guid |
| 18:01.14 | Xinhuan | local creatureID = tonumber(strsub(guid,9,12), 16) |
| 18:01.16 | Xinhuan | try that instead |
| 18:02.24 | Balreign | in fact using the documentation it says 7-10 digits for the creature ID and I use strsub(guid, 9, 12) |
| 18:02.29 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: thanks for editing that func, but could you make sure to add a short description next time? =) |
| 18:02.30 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 18:02.33 | Fisker | i lold |
| 18:02.34 | Fisker | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7072/2334064bfmt2tgjc2b4dtg.jpg |
| 18:03.05 | Balreign | when using strsub(guid, 7, 10) instead I found the matching ID |
| 18:03.13 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh: You mean a "Short Description" as in the field |
| 18:03.18 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 18:03.18 | sylvanaar | will do |
| 18:03.22 | jnwhiteh | that's used everywhere |
| 18:03.26 | jnwhiteh | so its the most important :P |
| 18:03.31 | jnwhiteh | ty! |
| 18:03.40 | sylvanaar | sure |
| 18:03.44 | Xinhuan | 7,10 is only for the old school guids (pre patch 4.0) |
| 18:04.00 | Xinhuan | only private servers and china servers have that |
| 18:04.51 | Balreign | Oh. I tryed and found the same ID as before (28160) |
| 18:05.07 | Balreign | Could wowhead use the old school guids? |
| 18:05.15 | Xinhuan | wowhead doesn't use guids |
| 18:06.22 | Pneumatus | stealth archaeology ftw |
| 18:06.25 | Pneumatus | *buff |
| 18:06.47 | Ackis | buff? |
| 18:06.51 | Ackis | getting more fragments? |
| 18:06.56 | Pneumatus | yeh, 3-6 now |
| 18:06.59 | Pneumatus | rather than always 3 |
| 18:07.04 | Ackis | yeah noticed that last night |
| 18:07.07 | Ackis | I think it was a bug fix |
| 18:07.11 | Ackis | I went from 2-3 |
| 18:07.14 | Ackis | now I'm 3-5 |
| 18:08.12 | phyber | Balreign: i use tonumber(string_sub(guid, 6, 10), 16) |
| 18:08.16 | Pneumatus | they need to add more tolvir spawns tho :< |
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| 18:08.43 | phyber | seems to still work fine. |
| 18:11.03 | Balreign | ok I found it => local creatureID = tonumber(guid:sub(-12, -9), 16) |
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| 18:13.30 | Balreign | thanks Xinhuan and phyber |
| 18:13.44 | Xinhuan | isn't that what i said |
| 18:14.25 | Balreign | it is |
| 18:14.59 | Balreign | just didn't wrote it correctly the first time I tryed. I'm an idiot ^^ |
| 18:20.16 | KriLL3 | urgh, the quality of pvp:ers just took a nose dive |
| 18:20.27 | KriLL3 | today has been brutal |
| 18:21.28 | Xinhuan | why |
| 18:22.14 | KriLL3 | pvp season started honor cap removed/raised/people need more |
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| 19:15.26 | EthanCentaurai | Finally returned home from Cardiff after a nice week-long holiday... /jetlag |
| 19:17.04 | Kalroth | would it be hard to trick GatherMate2 into logging archaeology lootings? |
| 19:17.11 | arkanes | Kalroth: already does |
| 19:17.20 | Kalroth | oh? I checked the page, doesnt mention it |
| 19:18.36 | Kalroth | Thanks :) |
| 19:26.44 | nevcairiel | I still dont think its worth it |
| 19:26.46 | nevcairiel | i have it on |
| 19:26.54 | nevcairiel | but i havent had one spawn at an old position |
| 19:27.10 | nevcairiel | short of two spawning in the exact same spot instantly |
| 19:27.40 | durcyn | i use it for finding dig sites when the mapster overlay fucks up :( |
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| 19:28.05 | Repo | 160f5d2: The Enchanting database now includes all the recipes added in Cataclysm. |
| 19:28.06 | Repo | af566ea: The vendor, Senthii, is Alliance not Horde |
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| 19:32.48 | nevcairiel | durcyn: there :P |
| 19:33.03 | Parnic | lol |
| 19:33.21 | nevcairiel | i was actually working on the fix before, because Xinhuan gave me instructions on how to reproduce it |
| 19:33.40 | durcyn | where i come from we complain about issues instead of reproducing them |
| 19:33.59 | durcyn | honestly i hadn't had time to try and duplicate it yet, but thanks all the same |
| 19:34.14 | nevcairiel | i dont guarantee that its the only issue |
| 19:34.21 | nevcairiel | but that one i could replicate ow |
| 19:34.24 | pompy | the orgrimmar fishing daily quest rewards from that bag suck!! |
| 19:34.24 | nevcairiel | now* |
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| 19:34.45 | Parnic | pompy: yeah i haven't had a single good thing come from those bags yet :( |
| 19:35.02 | pompy | 02:33:49 PM]You loot 63 Copper |
| 19:35.03 | pompy | fuck yeah |
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| 19:41.59 | KriLL3 | wtf, was fighting in EOTS and suddenly I was thrown out to where I was with deserter |
| 19:43.22 | Vonhinten | Anyone have any good choices for a < US$1000 laptop for gaming/dev |
| 19:44.44 | KriLL3 | gaming laptop is an oxymoron |
| 19:46.20 | Gnarfoz | they're called "desktop replacement" laptops for a reason, *cough* |
| 19:47.52 | Parnic | Vonhinten: i really like the asus UL series. they have toggles to change between discrete (geforce 200/400 go) graphics or onboard intel so they can be high performance or low power |
| 19:48.23 | Parnic | they have intel core2 and i5 models you'd have to get an SSD in it to really bring it up to the level of a desktop. |
| 19:48.48 | Parnic | they're all sub-$1k, though, and IMO are really good options for decent gaming on the go. gaming laptop isn't nearly as much of an oxymoron as it used to be |
| 19:49.57 | KriLL3 | honestly, I'm not sure why but in my world there are 3 kinds of "computers", huge desktops that are too heavy to carry any distance, netbooks/smaller laptops/cheaper laptops with low-mid graphics and servers |
| 19:50.16 | KriLL3 | high performance laptops are pointless objects to me |
| 19:50.35 | Parnic | i like it for vacations and the like. really loved being able to play wow in mexico :P |
| 19:50.46 | KriLL3 | too heavy and big to carry around well, and very expensive, and you can't upgrade it at all or only with great difficultly/cost etc |
| 19:51.00 | KriLL3 | wow runs on a normal laptop |
| 19:51.14 | Parnic | i realize. but i could also play borderlands if i wanted to |
| 19:51.20 | Parnic | as an example |
| 19:51.31 | KriLL3 | I guess |
| 19:51.44 | KriLL3 | I never take those kinds of vacations, or if I do I leave the tech home |
| 19:52.03 | KriLL3 | no intention of carrying something that expensive to a place where you're a lot more likely to loose it |
| 19:52.12 | KriLL3 | don't even bring my cellphone |
| 19:53.01 | Parnic | just pointing out that there are uses for laptops with long battery life and performance good enough to run modern games. vacation was just one such example of something i like to use mine for :) |
| 19:53.12 | KriLL3 | sorry but I can't see it |
| 19:53.21 | KriLL3 | and gaming laptops are notorious for short battery life |
| 19:53.21 | Parnic | bummer :) |
| 19:53.36 | arkanes | eh you're not really any more likely to lose stuff on a vacation than anywhere else |
| 19:53.55 | Parnic | KriLL3: this is my point: http://www.amazon.com/UL30Vt-X1-Light-13-3-Inch-Laptop-Battery/dp/B002XZLURC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292442821&sr=8-1 |
| 19:54.10 | KriLL3 | arkanes: luggage goes missing, pickpockets, outright theft etc |
| 19:54.10 | Parnic | 11 hours of battery life (when not in discrete graphics mode) with at least 3-4 hours if you're doing intense gaming |
| 19:54.13 | Parnic | i call that a win |
| 19:54.25 | KriLL3 | trust me tourist locations are ripe targets for shady people |
| 19:54.25 | arkanes | KriLL3: those are all things that happen everywhere |
| 19:54.28 | Parnic | pickpockets taking your laptop? :P theft is as much of an issue at home as it is on vacation |
| 19:54.36 | KriLL3 | arkanes: yes, but not as common |
| 19:54.45 | arkanes | yeah they are |
| 19:54.48 | KriLL3 | not with good lock and alarms |
| 19:54.48 | arkanes | selection bias ;) |
| 19:54.56 | Parnic | KriLL3: show us on the doll where the vacation hurt you |
| 19:55.07 | KriLL3 | never happened to me |
| 19:58.10 | KriLL3 | weird, load times take 10x longer with skype running |
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| 20:02.01 | Gnarfoz | how's that weird at all? skype sucks. |
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| 20:16.36 | KriLL3 | well yes, but why would skype make wow freeze mid load? |
| 20:17.10 | KriLL3 | and I mean freeze, that blink and then if you click wow it turns white "unresponsive" |
| 20:19.12 | Repo | 10triangulation (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r2 / (11 files in 2 directories): initial |
| 20:19.17 | Gnarfoz | that's probably some ancient addon. |
| 20:19.35 | Gnarfoz | stolenlegacy: another one of those? ^^ |
| 20:19.44 | stolenlegacy | there's more than one? |
| 20:19.48 | nevcairiel | many |
| 20:19.51 | stolenlegacy | ah okay |
| 20:19.52 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 20:19.57 | Gnarfoz | @project archeotriangle |
| 20:19.58 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/archeotriangle/. ArcheoTriangle. Game: WoW. Hizin (Manager/Author). Updated: 10 days ago |
| 20:20.02 | Gnarfoz | is the one I know of |
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| 20:20.08 | Gnarfoz | @project triangulation |
| 20:20.09 | stolenlegacy | i suppose every one works as "well" as mine |
| 20:20.09 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/triangulation/. Triangulation. Game: WoW. Status: Requesting experimental. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author). Updated: 59 seconds ago |
| 20:20.30 | Parnic | @tickets ice-hud |
| 20:20.36 | Parnic | @project ice-hud |
| 20:20.37 | Gnarfoz | nah, you make yours BETTER |
| 20:20.37 | Repo | Parnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/. IceHUD. Game: WoW. Parnic (Manager/Author), Rokiyo (Author). Updated: 13 hours ago. Tickets: 4/106 |
| 20:20.38 | Gnarfoz | FASTER |
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| 20:20.39 | Gnarfoz | STRONGER |
| 20:20.47 | Parnic | @ticket ice-hud 103 |
| 20:20.48 | Gnarfoz | (or something) |
| 20:20.48 | Repo | Parnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/tickets/103 - Buff, Debuff additional options:. Reported by: VaughnofCen. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 38 hours ago. Status: Fixed. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Parnic. Votes: 0. Comments: 2 |
| 20:20.50 | stolenlegacy | and then flame blizzard for being stupid |
| 20:20.55 | stolenlegacy | and not pointing survey tools right |
| 20:20.59 | Gnarfoz | the entire profession is botched |
| 20:21.09 | Gnarfoz | it's utterly boring :( |
| 20:21.09 | stolenlegacy | still |
| 20:21.17 | stolenlegacy | pointing at a digsite three zones away? |
| 20:21.20 | Aeyan | It gets particularly wonky around the edges of a dig site. |
| 20:21.22 | stolenlegacy | that's a whole new level of stupid |
| 20:21.26 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: why would i get a mail about some sweepstakes if only US can take part, being taunted like that is not fair :P |
| 20:21.42 | Gnarfoz | blame Obama |
| 20:21.43 | nevcairiel | go slap net for me! |
| 20:23.01 | Parnic | nevcairiel: i find it amusing that the curse newsletter gets delivered just fine seeing as how i'm no longer getting emails about comments on my addon pages |
| 20:23.05 | Parnic | or if i am, they're a day late |
| 20:24.14 | Gnarfoz | when have curse/cf/wowace emails ever worked fine |
| 20:24.21 | Gnarfoz | it's an utter shame :p |
| 20:24.31 | nevcairiel | i get the ticket notifications just fine |
| 20:24.39 | nevcairiel | but the notifications themself are broken |
| 20:24.46 | nevcairiel | well, just badly designed |
| 20:25.01 | Parnic | ticket emails work. it's comment emails i don't get any more |
| 20:25.05 | Parnic | and i'm still signed up for them |
| 20:25.30 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 20:25.33 | Fisker | why are curse racist? |
| 20:25.41 | Parnic | oh jeez, who woke up fisker? |
| 20:25.55 | nevcairiel | he probably also wants to win a SSD :P |
| 20:26.07 | Ackis | Fisker: they aren't racist, thay just don't like everyone |
| 20:26.07 | Fisker | not really |
| 20:26.10 | Fisker | already got one |
| 20:26.18 | Ackis | Parnic: my fiancee said she liked your addon when she was a rogue :D |
| 20:26.31 | Dark_Elf | is there anything similar to tablet that doesnt use ace2? |
| 20:26.35 | Parnic | ackis: happy happy joy joy |
| 20:26.41 | Fisker | i call racism Ackis |
| 20:26.44 | Ackis | I know eh? |
| 20:27.27 | Vonhinten | Parnic, that is an interesting laptop... |
| 20:27.33 | Vonhinten | might be a bit too small for me |
| 20:28.38 | Parnic | Vonhinten: they have a 15" and 17" version |
| 20:28.40 | Slayman | damn the "Wetten dass ..." dude is now handicapped |
| 20:28.42 | Parnic | ulv50vt and ul80vt |
| 20:28.45 | Vonhinten | ah, nice |
| 20:28.52 | Parnic | er, ul50vt* |
| 20:28.57 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.5-73-g752cc34 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 20:28.58 | Repo | 752cc34: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline |
| 20:29.00 | Repo | 5912259: Fixed the entries for: Dig Rat Stew, Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops, and Thistle Tea |
| 20:29.00 | Repo | 479cb3c: Removed some quests no longer in the game |
| 20:29.01 | Repo | 296f39f: Added a new custom string for recipes removed from the game. |
| 20:29.08 | Slayman | should push the price of the DVD for that episode of show though |
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| 20:29.47 | Vonhinten | hmm, core2 duo? |
| 20:30.03 | Parnic | yeah i think they have a different model (newer) that has an i5 in it plus all the other stuff |
| 20:30.19 | Parnic | haven't done my research since i bought the laptop in february, though. may go check out asus.com or something |
| 20:36.11 | KriLL3 | ... team of 7 guys from the same guild and realm in new CTF BG, prot warrior with awesome gear, holy paladin with awesome gear, disc priest with awesome gear, all walking around in one big group |
| 20:36.31 | Gnarfoz | Slayman: they put those on dvd? what a waste of good polycarbonite |
| 20:36.46 | KriLL3 | why on earth does a bunch of randoms most of them in bad gear get paired with thouse guys? |
| 20:36.50 | Slayman | well this EP should DEFINITELY hit a hardcopy |
| 20:36.57 | KriLL3 | can't even kill the odd player for fun, you just get crushed |
| 20:36.58 | Slayman | if not: marketgap right there |
| 20:37.03 | Gnarfoz | it's up on yt, what more do you need |
| 20:38.41 | Slayman | I don't have internet |
| 20:41.34 | KriLL3 | only way to join arena now is in tanaris/shattrath/dalaran? |
| 20:48.44 | Ackis | http://kotaku.com/5713847/a-glimpse-at-eas-employee+only-version-of-need-for-speed-hot-pursuit |
| 20:50.37 | Gagorian | Bah, now Curse is teasing me with the SSD's.. even e-mailing me about giving them away but then going like "ha-ha you can't participate!" |
| 20:51.09 | KriLL3 | let me guess, not american? |
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| 20:54.35 | Gagorian | KriLL3: Indeed |
| 20:55.01 | Gagorian | Although I already have a Intel X-25M drive |
| 20:55.08 | Gagorian | But raid would be nice! |
| 20:55.11 | KriLL3 | me2 |
| 20:55.27 | KriLL3 | raid disables trim though |
| 20:55.33 | Fisker | yeah Gagorian they're racist |
| 20:55.36 | Fisker | no they don't KriLL3 |
| 20:55.46 | KriLL3 | it does |
| 20:55.49 | Ackis | Fisker: http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/cb3e81e8-5526-45f6-bee3-881c8b73d049.jpg |
| 20:55.51 | KriLL3 | trim doesn't work in raid, for now |
| 20:56.21 | Fisker | it does |
| 20:56.26 | Fisker | have done for a long time |
| 20:56.46 | groktar | does not |
| 20:57.22 | Fisker | well i can't speak for whatever outlandish storage subsystem you have |
| 20:57.24 | Fisker | but intel's does |
| 20:57.26 | groktar | for a while it wouldn't trim your ssd if you also had a raid, but they fixed that |
| 20:57.45 | groktar | trim still won't work if the ssds themselves are in raid |
| 20:58.05 | Fisker | yes it will |
| 20:58.22 | groktar | no point in talking to a brick wall |
| 20:58.28 | Fisker | exactly |
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| 20:59.23 | Fisker | http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/03/23/intel-releases-trim-for-raid/1 |
| 21:00.25 | Gagorian | That article is wrong |
| 21:00.28 | Ackis | the problem with Fisker is that sometimes he might be right. |
| 21:00.38 | Fisker | no it isn't Gagorian |
| 21:01.00 | Fisker | i'm always right Ackis |
| 21:01.04 | Fisker | unless i'm trolling |
| 21:01.51 | Gagorian | That just means the drivers wont kill TRIM if you enable your RAID mode for the ICH10R |
| 21:02.11 | Gagorian | If you run an SSD + 2 RAID drives |
| 21:02.22 | Gagorian | still wont work if you try to RAID SSD's |
| 21:02.28 | groktar | ya, exactly what i said |
| 21:03.38 | groktar | i bought some ssds back in june and did all of this research |
| 21:03.48 | groktar | well after that 3/23 update |
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| 21:04.26 | Gagorian | Still, I don't think it would be that big of an impact.. SSD is mostly for read performance anyway |
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| 21:05.01 | Fisker | ssd's aren't for raid anyway :P |
| 21:05.26 | arkanes | SSDs are already raided |
| 21:05.31 | nevcairiel | You want more speed? Buy one of those ssds with a raid controller in them, for PCIe! |
| 21:05.34 | arkanes | they're little raids of NVRAM cells |
| 21:05.49 | Fisker | "lololol" |
| 21:06.13 | groktar | what Gagorian said |
| 21:06.32 | groktar | anyway, the performance hit while writing is about 50% |
| 21:06.42 | groktar | if it has to erase |
| 21:06.56 | groktar | so i figure if they're in a raid it's basically a wash |
| 21:07.02 | nevcairiel | without trim the performance will degerade further and further |
| 21:07.18 | groktar | only to 50% tho |
| 21:07.30 | groktar | because eventually it just has to erase and then write every single time |
| 21:07.54 | Bruners | baww, only US for the intel contest on curse :( :( :( |
| 21:07.59 | nevcairiel | if you're spending the money to get multiple ssds and then raiding them, you probably dont want a 50% write penality |
| 21:08.19 | groktar | i just wanted wow to load really fast when i got mine |
| 21:08.23 | groktar | and then i promptly quit wow |
| 21:08.24 | groktar | D: |
| 21:08.30 | nevcairiel | good job |
| 21:08.40 | groktar | i r smart |
| 21:08.51 | groktar | anyone want to buy some used 128gb c300s off me? |
| 21:09.18 | nevcairiel | the one 256 is enough for me |
| 21:09.23 | Fisker | lets all agree that curse are racists though |
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| 21:09.33 | Gagorian | Well, if you raid SandForce-based SSDs you probably won't miss TRIM much at all |
| 21:09.57 | groktar | don't think c300s are sandforce |
| 21:09.58 | Gagorian | Intel's is a bit worse, but it doesn't handle it too bad either. Depends on what your workloads are, sequential or random writes |
| 21:10.02 | Gagorian | groktar: They aren't |
| 21:10.07 | nevcairiel | no c300 is its own chip |
| 21:10.23 | nevcairiel | or rather, own firmware |
| 21:10.29 | nevcairiel | which is really the important part |
| 21:10.29 | Gagorian | C300 controller handles lacking TRIM worse than SandForce for example |
| 21:11.05 | groktar | oo |
| 21:11.13 | groktar | there was a c300 firmware update in november |
| 21:11.16 | groktar | i should grab it |
| 21:11.29 | nevcairiel | does it null out the drive again? |
| 21:11.47 | groktar | i should find out my running the update on my work comp while i'm at work |
| 21:11.53 | groktar | my/by |
| 21:12.26 | Gagorian | Personally I wouldn't RAID my SSD unless I got one for free from say Curse ;) |
| 21:12.43 | Gagorian | But like said, it's US only, which is lame |
| 21:13.00 | Fisker | (and racist) |
| 21:13.01 | nevcairiel | what is really lame, that they send me this big email about it |
| 21:13.17 | Gagorian | Indeed, that's why I started this topic |
| 21:14.12 | groktar | noooo |
| 21:14.18 | groktar | the update is boot from cdrom |
| 21:14.21 | groktar | and i don't have a cdrom |
| 21:14.22 | groktar | D: |
| 21:14.27 | nevcairiel | like the previous one |
| 21:14.29 | Fisker | blizzard are jerks |
| 21:14.58 | groktar | mine came with 0002 |
| 21:15.00 | Fisker | jumping down in vortex pinnacle gets you ported to the entrance now |
| 21:15.07 | Fisker | for one measly trashpack skip |
| 21:15.07 | Fisker | gg |
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| 21:15.34 | Clamgormoraunt | thank goodness, was tired of the endless up and down falling waiting for it to kill me |
| 21:15.57 | Bruners | for you SSD lovers http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2010/10/28/are-on-board-sata-6gbps-ports-fast-enough/1 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2010/07/08/ssd-buyers-guide/1 |
| 21:16.22 | Fisker | i want g3 intel ssd's pl0x |
| 21:16.47 | groktar | must resist temptation to buy a new controller |
| 21:17.20 | nevcairiel | guess i need to remember to upgrade the ssd firmware next time i reinstall windows |
| 21:17.21 | Bruners | going to stick with my raptor untill prices drop some more |
| 21:17.26 | nevcairiel | like, when i get my sandy bridge |
| 21:17.35 | groktar | i hear all the 6mbps controller shit themselves when you raid them tho |
| 21:17.46 | groktar | at least they did six months ago |
| 21:18.41 | steev | okay, so the prison in tol barad |
| 21:18.45 | steev | respawn rate is insane |
| 21:18.54 | steev | but aside from that, how the f do i get out? |
| 21:18.58 | steev | the gate on the door closed |
| 21:19.13 | steev | hearth it is |
| 21:19.15 | nevcairiel | its a prison |
| 21:20.41 | Fisker | i wish the firmware update process was better :/ |
| 21:21.06 | steev | oh bah |
| 21:21.17 | steev | looks like the entire thing closes at 10 minutes to battle |
| 21:23.19 | Gagorian | I don't think Intel's SSD firmware update needed data erasing |
| 21:23.29 | KriLL3 | no but it says it might happen |
| 21:23.41 | Gagorian | But I do understand the technical limitation that some changes might need it or cause it |
| 21:31.21 | ThiefMaster | how the hell are you supposed to kill ozruz hc if he doesn't cast his elementium bulwark before paralyzing? |
| 21:31.44 | nevcairiel | He only doesnt cast it once |
| 21:31.55 | nevcairiel | around the enrage |
| 21:32.00 | nevcairiel | judging from our kill speed anyway |
| 21:32.13 | nevcairiel | the timers diverge |
| 21:32.15 | nevcairiel | a bit :p |
| 21:32.53 | ThiefMaster | so it's bugged? |
| 21:33.02 | nevcairiel | could as well be a soft enrage |
| 21:33.13 | nevcairiel | was never a problem for us |
| 21:33.16 | nevcairiel | sure, you're stunned once |
| 21:33.23 | ThiefMaster | oh, and it's fucking hunter-unfriendly |
| 21:33.29 | nevcairiel | but if your tank dies in that 6 seconds, you're seriously undergeared |
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| 21:34.05 | Bruners | Gagorian: i wouldn't update the firmware without a backup |
| 21:34.29 | groktar | unless you're at work |
| 21:34.33 | groktar | then it's a good idea |
| 21:34.49 | nevcairiel | i updated my firmware, and it wiped my drive, i cant do any work today until i fixed it |
| 21:35.00 | groktar | hehe |
| 21:35.12 | groktar | i have nothing to do today except watch the clock |
| 21:35.48 | Gagorian | Bruners: Yeah, it's quite trivial on a small SSD |
| 21:36.01 | Bruners | we have started the vacation early :) |
| 21:36.05 | Gagorian | Backing up a few TB drive on the other hand is painful... |
| 21:36.18 | ThiefMaster | yay, finally killed him |
| 21:36.31 | ThiefMaster | Sulfuron Slammer from BRD FTW if you are a hunter |
| 21:36.42 | ThiefMaster | (causes as 3 dmg per tick dot) |
| 21:36.47 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r427 Buffs.lua: RaidBuffStatus: |
| 21:36.48 | Repo | - Added Flask of Flowing Water. |
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| 22:33.12 | Vonhinten | so, the rocket 620 with a crucial C300 128MB.. blazing speed for about 300 bucks? |
| 22:33.17 | Vonhinten | sounds like full of win |
| 22:33.25 | Vonhinten | MB=GB |
| 22:35.23 | ulic | so if someone hasn't bought the expansion(s), can they still create worgen? |
| 22:36.01 | nevcairiel | no |
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| 22:37.13 | ulic | I didn't think so |
| 22:38.05 | nevcairiel | Too bad they didnt have a P67 yet in that sata3 controller comparison, would like to know how intels new controller does |
| 22:40.41 | Hjalte | Do you need 17% spell hit for heroic bosses even though they are only 87? |
| 22:41.07 | nevcairiel | just hover over hit in your char screen, and it tells you the whole story |
| 22:44.15 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: It says "88 / Bosses" - But the bosses in heroics are just elites, no? |
| 22:44.59 | Mikk | boss = has skull portrait |
| 22:45.17 | Mikk | and is automatically == your level +3, regardless of your level |
| 22:45.42 | Mikk | so yes the "bosses" in heroics are just 87s, end of story |
| 22:56.33 | vhaarr | you have to remember that bosses will scale with tier now as well, gaining more levels |
| 22:56.42 | vhaarr | but as of launch, it's +3 |
| 22:56.46 | vhaarr | I guess |
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| 23:04.28 | Fisker | naw vhaarr |
| 23:05.02 | vhaarr | they said something about requiring more exp/hit each tier |
| 23:05.12 | vhaarr | but perhaps they abandoned that idea then, I dunno |
| 23:10.22 | Bruners | nevcairiel: p67? |
| 23:10.45 | Gnarfoz | chipset |
| 23:11.47 | Bruners | aha |
| 23:13.35 | groktar | when you click on hit rating it shows you what you need against a boss |
| 23:13.54 | groktar | and it just has a percentage |
| 23:13.57 | groktar | no qualifier by tier |
| 23:14.08 | Bruners | wow, the 620 controller is down 34% at a shop here |
| 23:14.58 | groktar | seems silly to give you exact hit % if it will vary |
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| 23:28.49 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.5-75-gab57614 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 23:28.50 | Repo | ab57614: The Inscription database now includes all the recipes added in Cataclysm. |
| 23:28.51 | Repo | 09aa4e1: Added two new custom strings and a new Inscriptiion trainer to the Trainer database. |
| 23:29.02 | Repo | 10ag_unitframes: 03andreasg * r716 ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_unitframes: test |
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| 23:34.28 | Mikk | wtf andreasg? |
| 23:34.49 | Yssaril | hes back ???? |
| 23:35.22 | Mikk | he needs to give up on aguf tho :P |
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| 23:35.42 | Repo | 10pitbull4_visualhelpers: 03fammy2k * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): v4.0.0-beta19 |
| 23:35.43 | Repo | * Fixed initialization bugs |
| 23:39.30 | Repo | 10pitbull4_visualhelpers: 03fammy2k 04v4.0.0-beta19-9 * r7 : Version: v4.0.0-beta19-9 |
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| 23:39.32 | Repo | * Fixed initialization bugs |
| 23:49.18 | Gnarfoz | next commit should be *project deleted* |
| 23:50.02 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 23:52.00 | Dark_Elf | loads up wow with fubar_trackerfu.... |
| 23:52.14 | Gnarfoz | that's not updated for 4.x |
| 23:52.25 | Dark_Elf | i know |
| 23:52.47 | Dark_Elf | i want to see if its functions still work |
| 23:52.59 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 23:53.01 | Gnarfoz | wha? |
| 23:53.13 | Gnarfoz | it can probably select *one* tracking option, maybe |
| 23:53.59 | Dark_Elf | its been a while since i seen it, i know the new tracker has many checks |
| 23:53.59 | Gnarfoz | I haven't checked out how the api changed |
| 23:54.22 | Gnarfoz | I only know the addon is not really structured to support multiple choice tracking^^ |
| 23:55.02 | Dark_Elf | im gonna test the fish stuff, i want to see if tablet still works |
| 23:55.18 | Gnarfoz | tablet works |
| 23:55.21 | Repo | 10wim-3: 03sylvanaar 043.5.0 * r293 : Tagging as 3.5.0 |
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