| 00:00.04 | Primer | pro |
| 00:01.25 | Nobgul | Also if the game was installed as admin, I have seen where you can't run it except as admin. |
| 00:02.00 | Primer | the game wasn't "installed" |
| 00:02.09 | pompy | is there really no 'last online' column in the guildui roster tab? |
| 00:02.10 | Primer | I simply copied the directory over from the machine I'm on now |
| 00:02.18 | Nobgul | pompy, there is. |
| 00:02.27 | mckenziemc | it's been a while, but i think you have to do -> control panel, folder options, View tab in the window that opens, scroll to the bottom and i think theres' an option that says Use Simple File Sharing (or it might actually say something about security) |
| 00:02.41 | Nobgul | Primer, You prob have a file premission error, try moving it to the desktop. And then use it |
| 00:02.55 | Primer | well, I'm presuming it's a file perms issue |
| 00:03.00 | mckenziemc | that might be what the issue is then, if you copied it it'll use your permissions + admin iirc |
| 00:03.06 | Primer | but I'd like to verify that with some log |
| 00:03.32 | Primer | heh, it was a tarball |
| 00:03.37 | Primer | cygwin |
| 00:03.41 | Primer | on both ends |
| 00:04.52 | Primer | anyhow, I seem to recall that his wow was working fine not long ago |
| 00:07.05 | mckenziemc | heh, i guess there's no point in upvalue-ing error for efficiency |
| 00:08.18 | Primer | I suppose if I used notepad on a SV file, and I got an error, I'd know |
| 00:08.55 | mckenziemc | yeah, if you have notepad running with the same privileges as WoW |
| 00:10.04 | Primer | well, wow starts from an icon, without anything special |
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| 00:17.02 | Primer | notepad saved the Dominos.lua file just fine |
| 00:17.31 | Primer | While I initially suspected a perms issue, I did reset all the file perms, so can only imagine it's something else |
| 00:21.37 | mckenziemc | if i have 'local someFunc' at the top of my file, then i can't set it with 'function someFunc()' later, right? i have to use 'someFunc = function()' ? |
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| 00:25.15 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r67 Core.lua: -Fix for "a attempt to compare nil with string" bug. |
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| 00:39.46 | mckenziemc | ^ hehe |
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| 00:40.33 | mckenziemc | moos at quiesense |
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| 00:46.43 | DWSR | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 00:46.50 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowuidev (1d 3h 25m 34s) #wowace (1d 3h 25m 34s) #curseforge (1d 3h 25m 34s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 5h 50m 25s, last said: 'my mouse charges super fast'. |
| 00:47.01 | DWSR | ~seen Antiarc |
| 00:47.02 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (3h 54m 5s) #wowace (3h 54m 5s) #curseforge (3h 54m 5s), last said: 'Just because I could'. |
| 00:47.07 | DWSR | Antiarc |
| 00:49.48 | vhaarr | mckenziemc1: yes you can |
| 00:56.48 | mckenziemc1 | lua> local f; function a() f() end; function f() print"x" end; a() |
| 00:56.49 | lua_bot | mckenziemc1: x |
| 00:56.54 | mckenziemc1 | ah, thanks |
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| 01:51.11 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03JackTripper * r133 TankPoints.lua: |
| 01:51.12 | Repo | - TankPoints calculation was modifying paladin's playerHealth by always assuming tank had Ardent Defender. i don't have it, so it had my HP wrong. Someone with Ardent Defense needs to "/tp dumptable" to make sure it shows their playerHealth as being 1.1111% higher than it really is. |
| 01:52.42 | mckenziemc | does the packager take luadoc stuff out of externals when they get pulled into an addon? |
| 01:53.37 | mckenziemc | i noticed two sizes of the LibStub files in my downloaded addons, but both are revision 2; most copies have the luadoc stripped out but one doesn't |
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| 02:08.17 | Repo | 10pitbull4_chimaeron: 03Shefki 07master * db535b4 / (12 files in 2 directories): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit. |
| 02:20.34 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r94 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:20.35 | Repo | * Added an entry for interrupts with longer cooldowns. Given the unforgiving |
| 02:20.36 | Repo | heroics at this point, all interrupts are valuable. |
| 02:20.37 | Repo | Ideally the Blood Elf "Arcane Torrent" racial ability should be included too, |
| 02:20.38 | Repo | but currently I don't have support for per-race abilities. |
| 02:21.13 | Pneumatus | zomg |
| 02:21.14 | Pneumatus | The range of the heal on Atonement has been increased to 15 yards. It has been verified to be working correctly for the priest and party/raid members. |
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| 02:38.23 | mckenziemc | !api __index |
| 02:38.23 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '__index'. |
| 02:38.34 | mckenziemc | ~trout lua_bot |
| 02:38.34 | purl | ACTION slaps lua_bot around a bit with a large trout! |
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| 02:40.06 | mckenziemc | lua doesn't check __index if the table already contains that key, right? |
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| 02:56.59 | KriLL3 | just me or should the hero's call board have at least one possibly more random dailies for 85? |
| 02:57.07 | KriLL3 | good fit imo |
| 03:02.14 | mckenziemc | good idea |
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| 03:02.35 | mckenziemc | what are the 'warnings' that /swat warn refers to? |
| 03:02.50 | mckenziemc | for Swatter |
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| 03:39.24 | mckenziemc | i can't figure out why the packager won't recognize my .docmeta |
| 03:39.45 | KriLL3 | wtf, trainer says I already know highest cooking, but I don't |
| 03:39.55 | KriLL3 | but I can't buy it |
| 03:40.10 | mckenziemc | i tried it in the root of my repo, and in the main part, but the packager keeps saying it didn't find any |
| 03:43.21 | Jerub | KriLL3: heh, i've heard of similar bugs |
| 03:43.25 | Jerub | KriLL3: you own cata right? |
| 03:43.29 | KriLL3 | yeah |
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| 03:50.02 | mckenziemc | hey funkeh |
| 03:50.13 | mckenziemc | funkeh` * |
| 03:50.30 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 03:51.03 | mckenziemc | are you familiar with the inner workings of the packager? i'm trying to figure out why it's not recognizing my docmeta |
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| 04:19.01 | ccarlton | Hi.. is there a way to browse a wowace repo using a browser/http? There's a pretty bad bug with atlasloot-enhanced right now, that looks like it was fixed (according to the tickets), but it looks like it was not packaged.. I just want to take a look at the repo in HTTP, and grab the fixed file... |
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| 04:22.56 | mckenziemc | not through http afaik, i think you need a svn client |
| 04:23.30 | KriLL3 | what's the name of the current loot link addon? ludwig doesn't seem to exist anymore |
| 04:24.01 | ccarlton | I think you could use dev.wowace.com a long time ago.. |
| 04:24.20 | ccarlton | but I might not be remembering right |
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| 05:05.29 | Gnarfoz | dev.wowace.com... that was when the entirety of wowace was in one big fat svn repo |
| 05:05.33 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
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| 06:07.54 | mckenziemc | ckknight: i'm having trouble getting the packager to recognize the .docmeta in my projects |
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| 06:08.16 | mckenziemc | idk what's wrong, they're all named '.pkgmeta' and in the root of the repo, but the documenter says it didn't find any |
| 06:09.03 | mckenziemc | in the past i've tried directly copying the .pkgmeta out of an addon that worked, with no luck |
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| 09:34.17 | Mikk | mckenziemc: you're saying .pkgmeta, is that a mistake? |
| 09:37.49 | Repo | 10broker_unhittable: 03nebula169 041.6 * r23 : Tagging as 1.6 |
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| 09:45.34 | mckenziemc | yeah, meant it's not recognizing .docmeta |
| 09:45.59 | mckenziemc | LibBuilder-1.0 specifically, but i never could get it to work for UpRank either |
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| 09:48.37 | mckenziemc | documenter not recognizing .docmeta, sorry |
| 09:48.58 | mckenziemc | .pkgmeta & packager are working fine for me |
| 09:55.36 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember the last time i knew of the documenter working |
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| 10:01.33 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 10:01.54 | mckenziemc | i looked at the page and it -is- working for some other projects |
| 10:02.12 | mckenziemc | so i'm more inclined to think i'm doing something wrong but i can't figure it out |
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| 10:09.18 | Repo | - The option to ignore players affected by the glyph of PoH now takes into account your PoH cast time |
| 10:10.02 | Repo | 10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren 04v0.97 * r40 : Tagging as v0.97 |
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| 10:31.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7672 / (2 files in 2 directories): Halfus: Add heroic spellID |
| 10:31.42 | Repo | koKR Update |
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| 12:21.12 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7674 Bastion/TwilightAscendants.lua: add some heroic 10 man spellIds |
| 12:37.26 | sbu | koaschten: amazon :p |
| 12:38.51 | sbu | koaschten: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B001HCRSYQ |
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| 12:56.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7675 Bastion/TwilightAscendants.lua: add harden skin initial timer |
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| 13:12.43 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r413 TradeskillIdData.lua: Initial pass for Cataclysm tradeskill information. |
| 13:12.44 | Repo | - Added new skills and component information. |
| 13:12.45 | Repo | - Modified some old skills that were updated. |
| 13:14.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7676 Bastion/TwilightAscendants.lua: oops fix icon |
| 13:19.18 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03arith * r3150 Locales/constants.kr.lua: Korean translation update (by next96) |
| 13:28.38 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb 043.7 beta 2 * r159 : (Message trimmed by 5 lines) |
| 13:28.39 | Repo | Tagging as 3.7 beta 2 |
| 13:28.40 | Repo | ProfessionsVault v3.7 beta 2 includes: |
| 13:28.41 | Repo | * NEW FEATURE: Customizable recipe coloring |
| 13:28.42 | Repo | * NEW FEATURE: Customizable character name coloring |
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| 13:37.19 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r142 / (2 files in 1 directory): added Tol Barad tabards |
| 13:43.31 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r3151 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 13:57.03 | evl | If I have two original accounts that are now under one battle.net account can I move one of htem to a separate battle.net account somehow? |
| 13:58.05 | mckenziemc | probably not |
| 13:58.33 | mckenziemc | a blizz employee -could- do it, but they'd probably require a good reason |
| 13:59.01 | evl | what about a char between battle.net accounts |
| 13:59.37 | mckenziemc | i was able to move a wow account off one b.net account and merge it with the other, because i claimed i didn't know you could have multiple on one acc (i had a diff reason for putting them on separate b.nets) |
| 13:59.49 | mckenziemc | yeah, as long as the last name on the accounts is the same |
| 14:00.06 | mckenziemc | well, i think |
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| 14:17.43 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r3152 Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 14:17.44 | Repo | - load all modules on start (this is only temporary, AtlasLoot_Loader will fix this) |
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| 14:27.38 | Slayman1 | by which API Method can I get the blizzard EQ Set an items belongs to ? |
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| 14:34.36 | arkanes | Slayman1: the best way to answer these sort of questsions is to look at the framexml and see how the blizzard UI does it |
| 14:35.24 | Slayman1 | I thought adi is here or so, you know his/her mod does it and he/she is opposing tooltip-parsing ;(/ |
| 14:35.35 | arkanes | well there's certainly no need to tooltip set |
| 14:35.39 | arkanes | *scan |
| 14:36.04 | arkanes | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetEquipmentSetItemIDs for example |
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| 14:36.43 | arkanes | and http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetEquipmentSetLocations |
| 14:44.23 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_chimaeron/. PitBull4_Chimaeron. Shefki (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 14:45.40 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/shortengoldloot/. ShortenGoldLoot. xhatix (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:47.05 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7677 Blackwing/Locales/deDE.lua: Fix Chimaeron deDE engage trigger. |
| 14:47.10 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/afkquit/. AFK Quit. tlundse (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:47.15 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gbankiconsetter/. GBankIconSetter. pigmonkey (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:47.22 | Dark_Elf | have to commend u guys on making addons and the time it takes to do them, i started creating addon and it is so frustrating to not have errors. also i wish acedb3 was embedable like acedb2 was :( |
| 14:48.59 | arkanes | ? Ace3 is designed to be embedded |
| 14:49.54 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/xauratracker/. xAuraTracker. xelepart (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:49.59 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wowmouse/. WoWMouse. tlundse (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:50.04 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/roguenote/. RogueNote. wwwDot (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:50.22 | tlund | thanks ackis |
| 14:50.53 | arkanes | hey I've been meaning to make something like that xauratracker |
| 14:51.30 | arkanes | how convenient |
| 14:51.56 | Dark_Elf | getting this error: attempt to index global 'DETrackingBrokerDB' (a nil value) i set up defaults but for some unknown reason it aint putting the defaults in the variable file |
| 14:52.22 | arkanes | you probably didn't set your SavedVars in your .toc |
| 14:52.32 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sell-o-matic-2/. Sell-O-Matic2. Silmano (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:52.37 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/cenote/. Cenote. yleaf (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:52.42 | Dark_Elf | oh they have to be set in toc? |
| 14:52.56 | arkanes | yeah |
| 14:53.16 | sbu | ackis approval spree!? |
| 14:53.36 | Ackis | lot was in the queue |
| 14:53.56 | arkanes | Dark_Elf: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-db-3-0-tutorial/ |
| 14:54.25 | Dark_Elf | thanks that may come in handy |
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| 14:56.26 | Rokiyo | WOOOOOOOOO |
| 14:56.29 | Rokiyo | I EXIST AGAIN |
| 14:56.53 | Rokiyo | precious, precious internet... how i have missed thee |
| 14:58.11 | Dark_Elf | hmm i already had ## SavedVariables: DETrackingBrokerDB in toc so not sure what wrong argh!!! |
| 14:59.19 | Ackis | Fischkatze |
| 15:00.06 | sbu | err what? |
| 15:00.22 | Ackis | nein! |
| 15:02.53 | Dark_Elf | oh wait i see an error already i had function DETrackingBrokerDB:OnInitialize() and it should be function DETrackingBroker:OnInitialize() |
| 15:06.35 | Dark_Elf | time to test again lol |
| 15:09.24 | Ackis | Bibi: Can you give me a Mottled Drake because I'm such a nice person? |
| 15:09.54 | tlund | i seem to be unable to locate the page where the different rules for tagging a release |
| 15:10.06 | tlund | i want to know how my tag needs to look for it to be considered alpha/beta/release |
| 15:10.20 | tlund | i would prefer to just tag it "1.0", but i am unsure if that is correct |
| 15:12.57 | tlund | or does it need to be "v1.0"? |
| 15:14.53 | tlund | AH! |
| 15:14.54 | tlund | "If this name contains only dots and digits and optionally starts with the letter v (such as "v1.2.3" or "v1.23" or "3.2") or contains the word "release", then it is considered a release tag" |
| 15:16.19 | Chosi | omg i saw some flying mount that looked like some engineering mount...something like dr. robotnik vom sonic |
| 15:16.24 | Chosi | can't find it on wowhead :S |
| 15:16.42 | Chosi | i bet it's from the tcg or some crap |
| 15:16.56 | Chosi | *from |
| 15:17.21 | Chosi | ah nevermind it's mimirons head |
| 15:17.44 | Chosi | -.- |
| 15:24.00 | Repo | 10afkquit: 03tlundse 041.0 * r3 : Tagging as release 1.0 |
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| 17:04.04 | Mikk | @describe afkquit |
| 17:04.06 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/afkquit/. AFK Quit. Automatically calls ForecQuit() right before you are AFK-disconnected to quit wow instead of going to the character selection... |
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| 17:18.21 | Slayman1 | guild perks do they need guild rep to work? |
| 17:19.03 | nevcairiel | not that i'm aware of |
| 17:19.08 | nevcairiel | some rewards do, though |
| 17:19.14 | nevcairiel | like the items you can buy |
| 17:19.37 | Slayman1 | yeah and a lot of achievements require a certain rep for your chars to count but the perks are avaible instantaneous |
| 17:19.41 | Slaren | anyone familiar with AceConfigDialog custom controls ? |
| 17:19.52 | Pericles | you get guild perks on joining a guild ie: when you have zero rep - guild rewards as nevcairiel says are purchased and only active if you have enough guild rep |
| 17:19.58 | aestil | do you guys think this is the best expansion so far? Is this the best version of WoW there has ever been? |
| 17:20.09 | aestil | trying to decide whether or not to buy it. |
| 17:20.37 | Slaren | it's just more of the same really |
| 17:20.45 | nevcairiel | its at least a hell of a lot better then wotlk |
| 17:20.46 | Brybry | isn't there a 10 day cata trial? |
| 17:21.09 | aestil | i heard that the heroics are actually pretty hard this time around? |
| 17:21.17 | Slaren | i guess it depends on what you are looking for |
| 17:21.27 | Slaren | not harder than they were in TBC imo |
| 17:21.31 | Slayman1 | questing has got a LOT better other then that more of the same really |
| 17:21.47 | Brybry | http://us.battle.net/en/info/cataclysm-trial |
| 17:25.11 | KriLL3 | can you fly on your own to vashj'ir or do you need to use a flightpath? I've been there before |
| 17:25.11 | Funkeh` | some perks needed rep |
| 17:25.19 | Funkeh` | or maybe it was only 1 |
| 17:25.23 | Funkeh` | but it was friendly |
| 17:25.35 | KriLL3 | oh right portal in SW, silly me |
| 17:25.37 | Slaren | you can fly, but there is a risk of getting fatigue damage |
| 17:25.46 | KriLL3 | Slaren: yeah figured |
| 17:26.08 | KriLL3 | SW is closer anyway |
| 17:26.31 | Funkeh` | mobile banking perk |
| 17:26.35 | Funkeh` | no biggie |
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| 17:27.03 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:29.59 | Slaren | so i want to make a custom control for a AceConfig dialog, but none of the supported types really fits what i need |
| 17:30.07 | Slaren | what would be the best way to go about it ? |
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| 17:31.34 | mitchnull | talk to nev |
| 17:31.56 | mitchnull | (he'll tell you how stupid your idea is and how it will never make into AceConfi :) |
| 17:32.15 | Slaren | it wouldn't be a general purpose control anyway |
| 17:32.24 | Slaren | it's just something that my addon would use |
| 17:32.31 | Repo | 10pitbull4_chimaeron: 03Shefki 07master * 985f676 Chimaeron.lua: [+1 commit] Finkle's Mixture was a buff not a debuff, oops. |
| 17:33.34 | SinusPi | Slaren, KriLL3 - the fatigue gap between the Dun Morogh peninsula and beginning of Vashj'ir is pretty narrow, like 10 seconds of fatigue, no more |
| 17:34.28 | SinusPi | even for a slow mount should be easy to cross. |
| 17:35.53 | Slaren | nevcairiel, any input ? how stupid is my idea? :P |
| 17:36.31 | nevcairiel | you didnt say what kind of control it is |
| 17:37.04 | Slaren | it would be a list of spells that can be reordered and each one can also be individually enabled/disabled |
| 17:37.19 | Slaren | i guess i could simply ignore the set/get functions and access my data directly |
| 17:37.23 | durcyn | you can fly across the larger grap from elwynn at 280, even |
| 17:37.26 | durcyn | gap* |
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| 17:56.26 | Chosi | meh |
| 17:56.39 | Chosi | data tools are outdated, right? |
| 17:56.58 | Ackis | @project datatools |
| 17:56.59 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'datatools' |
| 17:57.02 | Ackis | derp |
| 17:57.05 | Chosi | :) |
| 17:57.12 | Chosi | @prject data tools |
| 17:57.16 | Chosi | herp |
| 17:57.16 | Ackis | @project data-tools |
| 17:57.17 | Repo | Ackis: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/data-tools/. DataTools. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author), Ackis (Author). Updated: 9 days ago. Tickets: 4/49 |
| 17:57.25 | Chosi | outdated. 9 days |
| 17:57.26 | Chosi | :) |
| 17:57.31 | Ackis | kagaro has been keeping that updated |
| 17:57.33 | Chosi | thanks |
| 17:57.35 | Ackis | it's a dataminer |
| 17:57.39 | Chosi | i know |
| 17:57.43 | Chosi | i wanted to mine manually |
| 18:01.01 | Chosi | kagaro: http://pastebin.com/w3ebQNJc |
| 18:01.02 | Chosi | sup here? |
| 18:01.21 | Chosi | is it my ruby? |
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| 18:02.47 | Chosi | @project weakauras |
| 18:02.49 | Repo | Chosi: http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/. WeakAuras. Game: WoW. Mirrormn (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 days ago. Tickets: 11/73 |
| 18:03.01 | Chosi | Mirr<tab> dammit. |
| 18:05.54 | Chosi | same happens for gathermate2 btw, dunno if i need an old ruby version or something? |
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| 18:35.18 | Slayman | closetgnome should it be working? |
| 18:36.34 | nevcairiel | works fine for me |
| 18:40.49 | industrial | If it's supposed to not work ... |
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| 18:45.22 | koaschten | what do you need a closet gnome for, the blizzard thingy works fine no? |
| 18:45.40 | Parnic | i use outfitter to automatically change outfits on, say, spec change |
| 18:45.46 | Parnic | which the blizzard thingy can't do (afaik) |
| 18:45.59 | Slayman | nevcairiel: yeah I was dumbfounded that there was no menu on vlick |
| 18:46.03 | Slayman | *click |
| 18:46.06 | Parnic | but purely as an outfit holder, yes, the blizzard thingy works fine |
| 18:47.18 | Slayman | basically CG should just be the LDB plugin of the builtin manager |
| 18:47.22 | arkanes_ | I use outfitter as scripting on top of the blizzard sets basically |
| 18:47.34 | arkanes_ | since you can have outfitter store its sets in the blizzard thing |
| 18:48.30 | Slayman | I think outfitter comes with some clutter I don't use and therefore don't need |
| 18:48.58 | arkanes_ | eh whatever that means |
| 18:48.59 | Slayman | cg looks minimalistic just as a method to implement the blizzard API |
| 18:49.27 | nevcairiel | its basically just a LDB thing to switch sets |
| 18:49.40 | Slayman | which is what I was looking for |
| 18:57.51 | Parnic | i love the "mod comes with clutter" thing especially when it starts with "i think" :P |
| 18:59.06 | Parnic | i'm going to make a new mod that is a copy of outfitter, but called OutfitterLite and the description will say "lightweight, minimalist version of outfitter with the cruft stripped out." |
| 18:59.11 | Parnic | people will love it but it will be the same exact mod |
| 18:59.32 | arkanes_ | Parnic: heh |
| 18:59.40 | durcyn | remove all of the configuration options, obviously |
| 18:59.51 | Shadowed | you don't remove the configuration options, you just make them Lua only |
| 18:59.55 | Shadowed | that way it's lightweight, yet configurable |
| 19:00.02 | Parnic | don't forget minimalist |
| 19:00.09 | arkanes_ | Shadowed: thats what I did |
| 19:00.23 | Shadowed | (you choose poorly) |
| 19:00.27 | arkanes_ | "lightweight yet configurable" is a nice way to say "writing configs is hard, boring work and I am lazy" |
| 19:01.27 | Shadowed | It's adorable that you think people think it means that :P |
| 19:01.35 | Parnic | ack. the wowinterface redesign scares me |
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| 19:06.02 | quiescens | moo |
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| 19:11.31 | Ackis | Parnic: interesting, what you're doing with OutfitterLite, I'm doing wtih IceHUDLite ;) |
| 19:12.51 | Parnic | nowai |
| 19:12.55 | Parnic | tell me more |
| 19:13.16 | Ackis | yeah it removes all the clutter... it's lightweight and minimalist |
| 19:13.24 | Parnic | that sounds awesome. i want to download it right now |
| 19:13.46 | kadrahil | lightlist |
| 19:14.16 | mckenziemc | but but, my clutter! |
| 19:14.30 | mckenziemc | don't take that away from me! |
| 19:14.55 | kadrahil | make an addon called attic to store your clutter |
| 19:14.57 | arkanes_ | a guy I know wrote a great rant about this sort of thing |
| 19:15.13 | arkanes_ | based on the enormous number of theme engines called "fast, lightweight, dark themes" |
| 19:15.19 | durcyn | cool story |
| 19:15.23 | kadrahil | you're a cool story |
| 19:15.27 | quiescens | o.o |
| 19:15.31 | arkanes_ | I can't find it :( |
| 19:15.42 | mckenziemc | moos at quiescens. |
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| 19:15.59 | arkanes_ | I can't google for stuff glyph wrote anymore because google knows I like WoW too much |
| 19:17.50 | arkanes_ | when an author of some software says it's "fast" and "lightweight" they just mean "I know what it does, so it doesn't surprise me when it's slow, and I can get things done quickly with it, because I wrote it." |
| 19:19.11 | durcyn | "i compiled this at -O7" |
| 19:21.27 | Megalon | -OO7 |
| 19:21.29 | Megalon | herp derp |
| 19:21.47 | Megalon | with all them extra perks |
| 19:23.29 | Slayman | Parnic: what I meant was: I don't use automatisms for switching sets, I don't need an engine that compiles the best Set based on stat weeighing and so on and so forth. |
| 19:24.10 | arkanes_ | thats not really what outfitter does, just a thing it could do if you asked it |
| 19:24.26 | arkanes_ | but I'm sure that nobody is going to get mad if you use cg instead |
| 19:26.05 | Slayman | well apparently my remarks on the matter sparked a conversation about it |
| 19:28.11 | Parnic | your remarks on the matter reminded me of how much i despise the whole trend of calling things "lightweight" and "minimalist" |
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| 19:28.46 | Parnic | i don't have an opinion one way or the other for whether outfitter is cluttered or not |
| 19:28.50 | quiescens | what would you have them do? |
| 19:29.13 | Parnic | just write your addon. it doesn't need buzzwords that encourage people to judge addons based on misinformation |
| 19:29.33 | Parnic | i have never looked at outfitter's source code so i don't personally know whether it's optimized or lightweight, for example |
| 19:29.44 | Parnic | i can look at what it does and make a judgment or i can hear someone else say that it sucks and believe them |
| 19:30.22 | Parnic | but this culture of making new versions of addons and calling them "lightweight" versions of something else really just causes users to decide things that they really have no actual evidence of |
| 19:31.01 | Parnic | minus a "really" in there somewhere. |
| 19:31.13 | arkanes_ | the issue is that terms like "lightweight" are relative, but there's never anything given to compare them to |
| 19:31.36 | arkanes_ | its a meaningless term unless you've got a metric by which to measure the weight |
| 19:32.04 | arkanes_ | "this addon is like outfitter but does less so it's not as confusing" is a reasonable thing to say, simplifying that to "a lightweight version of outfitter" isn't |
| 19:32.12 | quiescens | oh people have their metrics, they are simply often flawed |
| 19:32.16 | Parnic | even then, unless it's substantially affecting your framerate in a way you can prove then what does it matter? |
| 19:32.42 | SinusPi | It's not meaningless by any means - it's just inaccurate and subjective, just as "bright" and "dark" ;P |
| 19:32.47 | Parnic | using X amount of memory is just stupid. i hate people judging addons based on their memory consumption. who cares about 2, 3, 4, or even 30 mb on a modern pc? |
| 19:32.59 | arkanes_ | and just like glyph said they often *aren't* objectively lighter by any objective metric |
| 19:33.08 | arkanes_ | hmm too many objectivces |
| 19:33.15 | SinusPi | Parnic: isn't there a limit to how much addon space can consume, though? |
| 19:33.18 | arkanes_ | its just that the author understands how they work |
| 19:33.21 | quiescens | objective you! |
| 19:33.30 | Parnic | SinusPi: heck if i know. i'd be shocked if there was |
| 19:33.31 | arkanes_ | there is |
| 19:33.36 | Parnic | lol, really? |
| 19:33.41 | Parnic | per addon or on the whole? |
| 19:33.44 | arkanes_ | it's quite high and nothing except a data storage addon will hit it |
| 19:33.45 | arkanes_ | I think both |
| 19:33.58 | Parnic | pff. virtual memory/swap exists :P. who cares |
| 19:34.04 | quiescens | there used to be a manually set total limit for addons |
| 19:34.16 | Chosi | anyone into weakauras? |
| 19:34.24 | quiescens | in the oldé days |
| 19:34.34 | arkanes_ | quiescens: is it gone? |
| 19:34.40 | arkanes_ | thats the thing I'm thinking of |
| 19:34.44 | SinusPi | Parnic: no, I mean it used to be damn low, like 50 MB or something, far from getting into swap/vmem terriroty. |
| 19:34.46 | arkanes_ | maybe it was a legacy of the old pre-gc lua |
| 19:34.50 | SinusPi | s/roty/tory/ |
| 19:35.38 | quiescens | it was just a hard limit, that was a user setting in the addons list window |
| 19:36.01 | quiescens | i think its been removed now |
| 19:36.07 | Parnic | yeah i guess all i'm trying to say is that users are dumb and ought not be allowed to see how much memory an addon is using :P |
| 19:36.18 | arkanes_ | heh |
| 19:36.19 | Parnic | because it really doesn't matter |
| 19:36.27 | SinusPi | quiescens: right, but now with it gone, can addons go up to 500MB or so? |
| 19:36.33 | quiescens | i don't recall any arbitrary limit on addons' memory usage in the present |
| 19:36.35 | arkanes_ | what they need to do is make addon memory profiling really cpu-intensive |
| 19:36.35 | SinusPi | with it gone = with the setting gone |
| 19:36.56 | arkanes_ | yeah I think I'm wrong, and what I was remembering was the old limit quiescens is talkig about |
| 19:37.06 | quiescens | but there was a limit on the size of their saved variables but even that was a while ago so i don't know if that still applies |
| 19:37.09 | Parnic | doesn't the fact that no one knows if there's a limit or not kinda prove that even if there was one, it's hilariously high? :P |
| 19:37.25 | Parnic | s/was/is/ |
| 19:38.10 | SinusPi | Empirically yes. :> |
| 19:38.14 | quiescens | go to sleep parnic |
| 19:38.23 | Parnic | quiescens: it's 1:38pm :P |
| 19:38.49 | quiescens | excuses excuses |
| 19:39.14 | Parnic | look at me, i'm quiescens! o.o |
| 19:40.05 | kadrahil | o.o |
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| 20:02.14 | Pneumatus | anyone know if there's an addon around that moves PlayerPowerBarAlt yet? |
| 20:02.34 | Pneumatus | (sound thing on atramedes, insanity bar on cho'gal), etc |
| 20:03.11 | Pneumatus | running a SetPoint doesnt seem to do the job as it keeps getting reset |
| 20:05.59 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps * r128 Castbars.lua: Add a swing timer below the Player/Vehicle Castbar. |
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| 20:11.32 | Primer | nevcairiel: using FlareUP causes the same "Only blizzard can do this" error, the same as making the default raid UI show up and choosing the raid markers. Oddly, it reports that recount is the culprit |
| 20:14.28 | nevcairiel | apparently thats the only way to use those flares |
| 20:14.36 | Pneumatus | anything that uses uidropdown will get blamed at some point or other |
| 20:15.21 | sylvanaar_work | truth |
| 20:15.50 | Primer | nevcairiel: what is the only way? Using the default UI's raid frames? |
| 20:16.10 | nevcairiel | abusing the dropdowns |
| 20:16.12 | nevcairiel | which taint |
| 20:16.52 | Primer | Speaking of that, is there still no way to cancel auras via PitBull by right clicking them? |
| 20:17.08 | Primer | I grow tired of typing it out really fast |
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| 20:17.45 | sylvanaar_work | thats broken for all unitframe addons iirc |
| 20:17.55 | Primer | yeah, I figured |
| 20:22.28 | koaschten | i just macro stuff and bind it to strange short cuts |
| 20:23.13 | Parnic | ct_buffmod actually updated to support right-click cancellation. i have a patch for icehud that allows for it, but it removes the feature of resizing player buffs differently from non-player-casted buffs |
| 20:23.18 | kadrahil | bind it to left right left right a b a b select start |
| 20:24.07 | Parnic | casted? that doesn't sound right. non-player-cast? hmm... |
| 20:24.16 | Fisker | Parnic |
| 20:24.18 | Fisker | i like you |
| 20:24.22 | Parnic | i know it |
| 20:24.23 | kadrahil | full body cast |
| 20:24.38 | durcyn | what about us Fisker |
| 20:24.43 | kadrahil | :( |
| 20:24.53 | Fisker | i don't like you durcyn |
| 20:24.59 | Fisker | because you criticized my trade |
| 20:25.03 | kadrahil | what about me fisker |
| 20:28.56 | Fisker | you're alright |
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| 20:31.16 | Megalon | what Fisker fisker Fisker, Fisker |
| 20:34.18 | groktar[phone] | fiskers Megalon |
| 20:34.45 | Megalon | moans |
| 20:35.02 | Torhal | Parnic: I blame this Steam sale on you. |
| 20:35.02 | groktar[phone] | oh my |
| 20:35.10 | Parnic | Torhal: that's fair. |
| 20:35.16 | Torhal | Totally. |
| 20:35.27 | Pneumatus | i also blame Parnic |
| 20:35.31 | Pneumatus | damn you, Parnic |
| 20:35.55 | Parnic | just make sure you don't buy Borderlands when it's cheap. wait til the price goes back up so i can get more money from it. kthxkbai |
| 20:36.14 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 20:36.36 | sylvanaar_work | the steam sale makes me want to buy games i dont need |
| 20:36.47 | Pneumatus | nothing on todays deals that i want, fortunatly |
| 20:36.51 | Parnic | dude, $0.49 for PB Winterbottom? i couldn't NOT buy that |
| 20:37.03 | Parnic | and i already own super meat boy on xbla, but $3.75? yeah. i bought it again. |
| 20:37.24 | sylvanaar_work | my friend bought that too, is it fun? |
| 20:37.44 | Parnic | super meat boy? it owns. it gets real frustrating real fast but the satisfaction of beating the later levels is worth it :P |
| 20:37.52 | Fisker | Megalon |
| 20:38.30 | Fisker | i love a parnic |
| 20:38.51 | Slayman | it's like heroic dungeons, but only your skills count and beating the game is really satisfying |
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| 20:40.22 | Primer | Any suggestions for a feral druid weapon enchant? Thinking hurricane |
| 20:40.24 | vhaarr | Karsh Steelbender stealthnerf? |
| 20:40.33 | Fisker | who? |
| 20:40.39 | vhaarr | I was tanking him and thought to myself "okay buff off in 2 seconds, time to move" |
| 20:40.42 | Fisker | someone who bends steel? |
| 20:40.43 | vhaarr | then I checked his timer and it was on 10 seconds |
| 20:40.47 | Fisker | oh that guy |
| 20:40.50 | Fisker | hmm |
| 20:40.57 | Fisker | i recall it as ~8-10 seconds as well |
| 20:40.59 | Parnic | vhaarr: i did notice that he's exceptionally easy now if the tank does his job...but maybe that's just people learning the encounter |
| 20:41.06 | vhaarr | I don't think so |
| 20:41.10 | vhaarr | I think he has been nerfed |
| 20:41.16 | Fisker | steelbender was never hard Parnic |
| 20:41.25 | vhaarr | not with a good tank, like me |
| 20:41.28 | vhaarr | with crap tanks, it's tough |
| 20:41.36 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:41.41 | Parnic | ^^ what he said |
| 20:42.15 | vhaarr | didn't warrant a nerf anyway, tanks should be good |
| 20:42.18 | Parnic | i'm wondering if they upped the drop rate of 'elemental goo' for the jc daily too...i got 10 in 10 kills yesterday but the previous 2 days took me ~30 |
| 20:43.52 | nebula169 | yes, they made it 100% |
| 20:43.55 | nebula169 | thank god |
| 20:44.01 | Parnic | yeah that sucked |
| 20:44.28 | Pneumatus | so |
| 20:44.29 | Primer | really...yeah, the drop rate for that sucked |
| 20:44.33 | Pneumatus | cho'gal is a barrel of fun isnt he |
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| 20:49.05 | Gnarfoz | <Pneumatus> anyone know if there's an addon around that moves PlayerPowerBarAlt yet? <-- I'd like one of those, too. Or integration into SUF. I'm looking at you, nevcairiel :D |
| 20:49.34 | Pneumatus | its dropped in the worst possible place for healers, as all of our healers at least have grid down there |
| 20:49.59 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 20:50.03 | Fisker | buy sandybridge or die |
| 20:50.09 | Fisker | and moveanything Pneumatus |
| 20:50.09 | Fisker | duh |
| 20:50.15 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: still not available |
| 20:50.32 | Gnarfoz | isn't MA horribly tainty since... before WotLK? |
| 20:50.32 | Fisker | sure is |
| 20:50.37 | Fisker | has been for a while |
| 20:50.39 | Gnarfoz | LiquidFrames afaik isn't |
| 20:50.47 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: buy and send, then |
| 20:50.53 | Fisker | no! |
| 20:51.08 | Gnarfoz | pretty sure, if it's not on here, it's not out: http://gh.de/?cat=cpu1155 :D |
| 20:51.49 | Fisker | you're not awesome enough |
| 20:52.42 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: thats a horrible place for unit frames, imho :P |
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| 20:58.02 | Gnarfoz | not really, imho; anyway, Blizzard's frame is totally in the wrong place, too ;p |
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| 21:02.55 | Pneumatus | heh, steam store has reccomended pb winterbottom |
| 21:03.03 | Pneumatus | 0.39p |
| 21:03.05 | Pneumatus | bargain |
| 21:03.22 | durcyn | not even half a pence, eh |
| 21:09.15 | Fisker | i once penced a guy |
| 21:09.57 | Axodious | so, after a while of flying around doing archaeology my computer starts stuttering once a second until i reloadui logoff etc |
| 21:10.01 | Axodious | anyone have an idea whats up? |
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| 21:11.27 | Fisker | i once archaeologied a guy |
| 21:11.44 | Axodious | find anyhting good? |
| 21:12.06 | Megalon | he found a brain |
| 21:12.13 | Megalon | but vendored it, as he had no clue how to use it |
| 21:12.20 | Axodious | lol! |
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| 21:19.09 | Fisker | i hate al'akir |
| 21:19.14 | Fisker | i took the slipstream to his platform |
| 21:19.17 | Fisker | but died to fall damage |
| 21:19.57 | Gnarfoz | @project broker-uclock |
| 21:19.59 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker-uclock/. Broker uClock. Game: WoW. ethancentaurai (Manager/Author). Updated: 67 days ago. Tickets: 2/16 |
| 21:20.35 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:20.54 | Gnarfoz | private repos aaaaaaaaaahhh |
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| 21:23.01 | Fisker | i farted Gnarfoz |
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| 21:24.57 | durcyn | it's not private |
| 21:25.00 | sylvanaar_work | Axodious: i have the same problem. i think its inherent in the game |
| 21:25.04 | Fisker | farted durcyn |
| 21:26.09 | sylvanaar_work | do you say inherint in or inherent to? |
| 21:26.23 | Parnic | inherent in |
| 21:26.39 | Fisker | i lol'd Parnic |
| 21:26.44 | Fisker | That wasn't what he asked :( |
| 21:26.50 | Parnic | when do you not lol, fisker? |
| 21:27.02 | sylvanaar_work | fisker is a bot |
| 21:27.10 | Parnic | purl, is fisker a bot? |
| 21:27.18 | Parnic | dangit purl! pay attention to me |
| 21:27.20 | sylvanaar_work | purl |
| 21:27.29 | sylvanaar_work | purl, hello |
| 21:27.29 | purl | Howdy Bub |
| 21:27.44 | sylvanaar_work | she's selective in what she responds to |
| 21:27.54 | Parnic | purl, why don't you respond to me? |
| 21:27.55 | purl | why not? |
| 21:27.58 | sylvanaar_work | purl, what is fisker |
| 21:27.59 | purl | methinks fisker is the #wowace channel troll. worthless, or always one step ahead of the average troll, on fire, or http:/â/âtinyurl.com/âfisker1 |
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| 21:28.37 | sylvanaar_work | purl, fisker is also probably a bot |
| 21:28.37 | purl | sylvanaar_work: okay |
| 21:28.45 | sylvanaar_work | thanks purl |
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| 21:37.14 | Fisker | hey sylvanaar |
| 21:37.28 | sylvanaar_work | hey Fisker |
| 21:38.23 | Fisker | sup? |
| 21:38.29 | sylvanaar_work | nada |
| 21:39.23 | sylvanaar_work | i cant decide if i want to buy a kindle or not |
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| 21:39.57 | Fisker | you don't want to sylvanaar_work |
| 21:40.01 | Fisker | buy a android tablet |
| 21:40.09 | sylvanaar_work | nothx |
| 21:40.10 | Fisker | install the kindle app |
| 21:40.11 | Fisker | ??? |
| 21:40.13 | Fisker | profit |
| 21:40.33 | sylvanaar_work | i have an ipad already...dont need another tablet |
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| 21:41.56 | Fisker | kindle is another tablet |
| 21:42.00 | Fisker | with less functionality |
| 21:42.06 | Fisker | why don't you get kindle for the ipad? |
| 21:42.21 | kadrahil | kadlet |
| 21:42.29 | sylvanaar_work | i have ti, but the battery life on kindle is 2weeks of use instead of 10 hours |
| 21:42.52 | kadrahil | owned fisker |
| 21:42.56 | nevcairiel | 10 hours without a power outlet |
| 21:42.59 | nevcairiel | thats possible? |
| 21:43.00 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:43.02 | Fisker | don't you have a digit too much on that figure? |
| 21:43.12 | kadrahil | go fish |
| 21:43.23 | sylvanaar_work | 10 hours is the battery life on an ipad |
| 21:43.29 | Fisker | i once fished a guy |
| 21:43.34 | kadrahil | eww |
| 21:43.41 | nevcairiel | but yeah, the free 3g and long battery life are awesome in a kindle |
| 21:43.47 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 21:43.56 | sylvanaar_work | thats why i am considering it |
| 21:43.58 | nevcairiel | too bad they only have english books |
| 21:44.06 | nevcairiel | or mostly, anyway |
| 21:45.40 | sylvanaar_work | i should just bite the bullet and get it |
| 21:45.54 | nevcairiel | unless you want the really big one, its not that expensive anyway |
| 21:45.59 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 21:46.10 | sylvanaar_work | i cant decide if i want the 3g one or not |
| 21:46.33 | nevcairiel | I would get the 3g one, that 50 difference |
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| 21:46.43 | sylvanaar_work | true |
| 21:51.26 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03StingerSoft * r306 locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 21:52.37 | Torhal | sylvanaar_work: Last I checked, they didn't have the non-3G in stock |
| 21:52.50 | sylvanaar_work | they are back in stock |
| 21:53.25 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3153 TableRegister/loottables.lua: - VP boss list fix |
| 21:53.26 | Torhal | I ordered the non-3G for my son, and his grandmother (who orders everything she sees on TV) assumed it was hers (...) so she gave me her card to get him another - had to get the 3G |
| 21:54.50 | Torhal | I almost considered telling him "Your grandma stole your Christmas present, son." |
| 21:58.45 | Fisker | why didn't you buy something else for her card? |
| 21:59.31 | durcyn | also, torhal still lives with his mom, therefore, |
| 22:00.16 | Megalon | multiple generations living together |
| 22:00.25 | Megalon | that screams terrorism camp |
| 22:06.36 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.3.0-1-g0481dda Considerater.toc: [+1 commit] bump TOC and version |
| 22:11.44 | Repo | 10fambags: 03fammy2k * r33 famBags.lua: v0.9.5-beta6 |
| 22:11.45 | Repo | * Changed chat command to /fam. /fb is used by Fishing budy |
| 22:12.13 | Repo | 10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v0.9.5-beta6 * r34 : Version: v0.9.5-beta6 |
| 22:12.14 | Repo | * Changed chat command to /fam. /fb is used by Fishing budy |
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| 22:16.24 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.3.0-2-g5dbdea4 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] updated .pkgmeta to statlogic-1.2 |
| 22:17.34 | ben | Is checking out the git repositories of addons directly into Interface/AddOns/ a supported way of running them? |
| 22:17.50 | Shefki | Depends on the addon. |
| 22:18.05 | ben | Pitbull4 |
| 22:18.22 | ben | Mostly because there did not seem to be an up-to-date release |
| 22:18.26 | durcyn | most devs do exactly that, it's not encouraged for everyone though |
| 22:18.43 | Shefki | There is a packaged build for every commit. |
| 22:19.12 | Shefki | And I'm not sure what your definition of up-to-date release is. |
| 22:19.17 | Elkano | Shefki, only if the author hasn't disabled that |
| 22:19.31 | Shefki | I'm the author, I think I can answer the question. |
| 22:19.37 | Elkano | iirc eg atlasloot doesn't have these |
| 22:19.46 | ben | I might have been doing it wrong. I went to http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/ and clicked Download, and it listed a file from november. |
| 22:19.52 | Elkano | wel, wrt pb4 that's true ^^ |
| 22:20.09 | Elkano | ben, go to files |
| 22:20.29 | ben | I see |
| 22:20.40 | Shefki | There's nothing majorly wrong with the version from November. |
| 22:20.43 | Elkano | download gives the latest release |
| 22:21.42 | Elkano | which "should" be a version considered stable wrt features/bugs by the author |
| 22:22.53 | ben | It appears I ran into the thing with taint issues from group frames created during combat |
| 22:23.04 | Shefki | Ahh well then just get the alpha. |
| 22:23.24 | Shefki | In practice that doesn't actually break anything. |
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| 22:23.38 | Shefki | The only thing it stops from running is commands that aren't needed anymore. |
| 22:25.32 | Shefki | ben: What behavior are you seeing that concerns you? |
| 22:27.43 | kagaro | Chosi: no it isnt your ruby, i need to adjus tth elib they changed a json syntax |
| 22:28.30 | Shefki | kagaro: wowhead? |
| 22:29.56 | kagaro | ya they changed a json field |
| 22:30.16 | ben | Shefki: I zoned into a dungeon/combat in progress and pitbull continuously produced errors relating to protected functions. So I replaced it with the repository and now it works. |
| 22:30.28 | ben | I suppose just reloading in the first place would have helped too. |
| 22:31.04 | ben | Maybe I should just stop running bugsack with the error noise and everything. |
| 22:31.29 | Elkano | Shefki, reminds me that I had the problem where partytarget and partypet were showing the party unit; can't recall when and how exactly that did happen |
| 22:31.29 | Shefki | ben: Well it probably was only producing taint errors, which aren't exactly errors. |
| 22:31.41 | Shefki | Elkano: I missed setting an attribute. |
| 22:31.55 | Shefki | Elkano: As long as the frames get made out of combat it worked. It's fixed in that alpha. |
| 22:32.12 | Elkano | ok :) |
| 22:34.22 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.3.0-3-ga408ab3 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Use StatLogic-1.2 |
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| 22:34.46 | ben | They did an error noise, and concerned me ;) |
| 22:36.49 | Dark_Elf | question, should AceConfigDialog be called in OnInitialize() or in OnEnable()? |
| 22:37.39 | kagaro | is wowhead down? |
| 22:37.52 | Axodious | lagging |
| 22:37.53 | Axodious | not down |
| 22:38.00 | kagaro | ahh gotcha |
| 22:39.18 | durcyn | was under maintenance earlier |
| 22:39.32 | kagaro | Chosi: i added a fix for your error |
| 22:39.36 | durcyn | that was the point where i realized the SMF wowhead plugin is badly written |
| 22:39.56 | Axodious | yep |
| 22:40.05 | Axodious | ive given up on it |
| 22:40.07 | Axodious | any of them |
| 22:40.14 | Axodious | there's no one actively making one |
| 22:41.02 | durcyn | tempted to just move the whole fucking thing to wowstead out of pure laziness |
| 22:41.31 | durcyn | though i will readily admit to automatically thinking poorly of people who used shit like that in the past |
| 22:41.52 | Primer | shit like what? |
| 22:42.02 | durcyn | guild site hosting services |
| 22:42.52 | Primer | well, they're easy to setup |
| 22:43.10 | durcyn | they're mostly crap, though, it just looks unprofessional |
| 22:43.10 | Primer | especially if you don't know how to roll a nuke site + modules + themes |
| 22:43.16 | durcyn | wowstead's not as bad, though, tbh |
| 22:43.34 | Primer | Isn't curse coming up with one? |
| 22:43.45 | durcyn | that'd be wowstead, yeah |
| 22:43.47 | Axodious | of course it's not ckknight made it! |
| 22:43.48 | Primer | ahh |
| 22:44.05 | Arrowmaster | why would you ever use a nuke site? |
| 22:44.09 | durcyn | Axodious: that just means he'll get bored of it in 6 months and it'll fall into bitrot |
| 22:44.14 | Axodious | lol |
| 22:44.17 | durcyn | Axodious: not that there's any historical precedent |
| 22:44.19 | Axodious | but it starts out amazing! |
| 22:44.29 | Primer | Arrowmaster: what would you suggest? |
| 22:44.54 | ckknight | Axodious: what's all this, then? |
| 22:45.02 | Arrowmaster | something that doesnt get exploited within 5 minutes of going online |
| 22:45.03 | Primer | Arrowmaster: I made and managed my last 2 guild sites...and they're both nuke. Works well enough |
| 22:45.05 | Axodious | ? |
| 22:45.17 | ckknight | actually, I don't do much frontend work on the site, I stick to the backend |
| 22:45.18 | Primer | Neither have been exploited |
| 22:45.28 | ckknight | the caching system, the data layer, all that stuff. |
| 22:45.29 | Arrowmaster | nuke has a horrible security record |
| 22:45.35 | durcyn | eh, he's right, there are much better CMS/forum packages out there |
| 22:45.46 | Axodious | i just do forum + custom index page >_> |
| 22:45.49 | durcyn | the next one i set up will be wordpress, no question about it |
| 22:45.57 | Elkano | ours is going drupal currently |
| 22:45.59 | Primer | Rule #1: Don't set the ownership of the files to the web server user |
| 22:46.41 | Arrowmaster | Primer: umm nuke requires write access to a bunch of its files |
| 22:46.44 | Primer | And here's a little trick I've been using for the past few years: Don't allow the web server user to write to /tmp or /var/tmp |
| 22:46.57 | Primer | Arrowmaster: negative |
| 22:47.05 | ckknight | durcyn: Wowstead has pretty good custom CSS support and such, if you choose to use it. I try to give as much flexibility to the site creator without creating security issues. |
| 22:47.06 | Primer | it just needs a database |
| 22:47.14 | Elkano | btw, ckknight, CRT is also usable without wowstead premium, right? only syncing and stuff won't work. |
| 22:47.26 | Arrowmaster | maybe its changed, i havent touched that shit in many many years |
| 22:47.27 | ckknight | I think that's the plan, Elkano |
| 22:47.33 | ckknight | we can't really stop you from using the addon. |
| 22:47.40 | Elkano | since on the page it sounds different |
| 22:47.54 | Pneumatus | chroot vhosts, problem solved |
| 22:47.58 | Elkano | yeah, also it would be against Blizzard's addon policy, wouldn't it? |
| 22:48.03 | ckknight | yeah, it would. |
| 22:48.16 | durcyn | ckknight: yeah, i was just saying it looks heaps better than most of the other services out there |
| 22:48.24 | ckknight | durcyn: that's the goal. |
| 22:48.38 | ckknight | also, we're the only ones that allow for communal paying |
| 22:48.59 | ckknight | i.e. "everyone throw a dollar in the bucket" |
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| 22:49.31 | Elkano | ckknight, maybe you should add a limited to CRT free site then ;) |
| 22:49.54 | Primer | Arrowmaster: all I know is I volunteered to make the guild web site, so I did a bit of research, and found that most of the features that the guild people wanted were available as nuke modules, so I went with it. Spent a few days setting it all up, then it was a done deal |
| 22:49.56 | ckknight | Elkano: I think we want to confuse people in order to give us more money |
| 22:50.28 | Primer | the second guild site was basically cp -a oldsite newsite, change some CMS settings and graphics |
| 22:52.26 | Arrowmaster | Primer: years ago when my friends and i were running local lan parties monthly we had a nuke site, eventually the only reason we kept running the site was for the forums since we had stopped with the lan parties but the site kept getting defaced every other month so we just said fuck it and shut it down |
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| 22:59.01 | Primer | Arrowmaster: I hear you. I know that most stuff written in PHP is usually prone to exploits |
| 23:00.02 | Arrowmaster | it was a shared host too so its not like we could do anything to harden the system |
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| 23:03.25 | durcyn | that's a shitty vhost setup then |
| 23:03.41 | durcyn | should suexec it into the individual user's account at least |
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| 23:22.51 | Repo | - Shattrath and Dalaran faction changed from Contested to Sanctuary |
| 23:22.52 | Repo | - API: added IsSanctuary(zone) |
| 23:22.53 | Repo | - API: added IterSactuaries() |
| 23:22.54 | Repo | - GetFactioncolor now returns blue for Sanctuaries |
| 23:23.07 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.3.0-5-gf15e988 Core.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 23:23.08 | Repo | f15e988: Only use SetSelected on currently open DropDown menus. |
| 23:23.09 | Repo | 64c8be8: non-clothies don't use cloth anymore |
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| 23:55.06 | Balreign | morning all |
| 23:57.50 | Balreign | hey Torhal I've posted a comment on collectinator's ticket 65 about how to reproduce it. |