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02:11.58Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r292 / (4 files in 1 directory): Add a description to the playernames module.
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03:35.33Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r293 / (2 files in 1 directory):
03:35.34Repoplayernames: add ability to class color RealID whispers, thanks to Stanzilla for being a late night test dummy.
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03:39.32Repo10syllabus: 03LaoTseu 07master * eb0f36b / (5 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits]
03:39.33Repoeb0f36b: Attempt to solve ticket #25: Unknown zone: Gilneas during conversion
03:39.34Repodb5e3d8: Removed embeds.xml. Move LibStub in the @no-lib-strip@. Removed the hard-embeded copy of LibStub added it to .pkgmeta. Moved LibDataBroker outside the @no-lib-strip@.
03:39.36Repo91902c2: Move the database import and export functions in a separate file.
03:39.36Repo3de4a5e: List findglobals in the tools used
03:40.01Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r294 playernames.lua: remove some comments
03:53.58Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r295 playernames.lua: playernames: don't error when a friend logs off
03:55.55Repo10autoprofitx: 03KanadiaN * r74 / (3 files in 1 directory): -- Code Clean-up
03:55.56Repo-- Sell Soulbound fixed
03:55.57Repo-- space issue with Sell Armor Sub Class should be fixed
03:55.58Repo-- Changes data Array ( All exempt Lists have been reset ) this has been done for the next version that will let you copy lists between characters
03:57.42Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r296 playernames.lua:
03:57.43Repoplayernames: tweak string so we have the side effect of coloring player logons.
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04:22.11Repo10tourguide-tradeskill: 03Satisfyme * r26 / (2 files in 2 directories): Updated Guide to fishing level 440 and cooking level 415
04:23.15Repo10dhud4: 03Arcanefoam * r65 / (5 files in 4 directories): - Fixed config bug
04:23.16Repo- Fixed blizz cast bar bug
04:23.17Repo- Fixed paladin HP bug
04:23.18Repo- Added new locales
04:24.27Repo10dhud4: 03Arcanefoam 041.2 * r66 : - Fixed config bug
04:24.28Repo- Fixed blizz cast bar bug
04:24.29Repo- Fixed paladin HP bug
04:24.30Repo- Added new locales
04:29.31Repo10dhud4: 03Arcanefoam * r67 DHUD4.lua: - Moved Blizz cast bar option to PLayer menu
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04:33.33Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r297 / (4 files in 1 directory):
04:33.34RepoMove the RealId coloring stuff into it's own on-by-default module because it's cool and I don't want to enable the playernames module to use it.
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05:55.50Repo10big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r8264 Blackwing/Atramedes.lua:
05:55.52RepoAtramedes: use the player name in the obnoxious warning (which seems to fire randomly)
05:57.52nebula169oh, it doesn't check for the pestered debuff in the UNIT_AURA method, lol
06:17.02Repo10big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r8265 Blackwing/Atramedes.lua: Atramedes: check for Pestered! before announcing about it
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06:23.30Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r8266 Blackwing/Atramedes.lua: Blackwing/Atramedes: cleanup the whole pestered stuff.
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06:26.55Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r8267 Blackwing/Atramedes.lua:
06:26.56RepoBlackwing/Atramedes: phase shift should only trigger on heroic as it is, no need for a check.
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07:33.21Repo10libkeybound-1-0: 03ananhaid * r97 LibKeyBound-1.0 (2 files in 1 directory): LibKeyBound-1.0:
07:33.22Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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08:10.55Repo10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.2.2-77-g2b7fdaa Database (6 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
08:11.09Repo2b7fdaa: Converted the Runeforging, Blacksmithing, Engineering and Leatherworking databases to the new format
08:11.10Repo6e644c8: Added back some recipe entries that got lost in translation
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08:49.43vhallacIs anyone awake? :)
08:50.07vhallacTrying to figure out when I should call OpenCalendar() to get Calendar data
08:52.19mckenziemczzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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08:53.28vhallacThe documentation on wowwiki says even PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is too early. But not when it is safe to call.
09:00.19Bluspacecowwowwiki ?
09:00.20Bluspacecowlolz
09:01.01mckenziemcBluspacecow? lolz
09:01.31Bluspacecowmckenzie-person who has long names- lolz
09:02.24vhallacWhat else? wowprogramming has even less info.
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09:07.42mckenziemcyou could check wowpedia, but i don't know if it'll have anything more
09:09.16vhallacwill do. Thanks.
09:10.20vhallacHeh, looks like the same article
09:10.35vhallacAnd I use the word "article" loosely here.
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09:13.28ccKepvhallac: tried CALENDAR_UPDATE_EVENT_LIST ? (I'm just guessing here)
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09:13.47vhallacThat is supposed to get sent after I call OpenCalendar()
09:14.00ccKepoh :(
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09:14.20vhallacBut if I call too early, it doesn't get sent. If I call earlier, I break Blizz calendar. :)
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09:15.28ccKep~framexml
09:15.28purlrumour has it, framexml is Export code art from the client by using the console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art"; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml
09:17.06vhallacTried figuring out from Blizz Calendar. They seem to rely on the fact that calendar won't open until it is safely late in the logon.
09:20.26Repo10bug-grabber: 03Rabbit * r167 BugGrabber.lua: No need to iterate when GetAddOnInfo accepts names.
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09:21.42ccKepwhat's the reason you need the info so soon?
09:22.10vhallacI don't need it soon. But I need to do it in response to a console command.
09:22.26vhallacIf I trigger on console command, I can get the results after the event fires.
09:22.54vhallacSo the code becomes comvoluted. I am trying to find a nice point in time between entering world and the console cmmand is given.
09:24.03vhaarrVARIABLES_LOADED should be fine
09:24.58vhallacI think I tried it. But no harm trying again. :) Is there some info on the order of events sent at startup?
09:26.40ccKepdidn't VL fire before PEW?
09:29.36nebula169it should fire after doing ADDON_LOADED for everything, no? which is well before PLAYER_LOGIN or P_E_W
09:30.30ccKepwowpedia suggests that using ADDON_LOADED to rely on loaded savedvars, not VARIABLES_LOADED ^.^
09:31.31winkI had this idea to write a reforge calculator in prolog
09:31.43winkbut it might be a bit of overengineering
09:33.10nebula169i know a guy that did one in matlab, lol, people use whatever they're familiar with
09:33.37winkyou can bruteforce it in any language, but prolog would be perfect
09:33.45winklike the classic sudoku example
09:34.01winkyou input some numbers and it prints the best solution :P
09:49.39Repo10pitbull4_vengeancebar: 03nebula169 * r13 VengeanceBar.lua: use :UpdateForUnitID (which I had recreated, heh)
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09:59.17vhallacA-ha: "Until 3.0, VARIABLES_LOADED used to fire upon completion of the addon loading process; since 3.0, it is fired in response to CVars, Keybindings and other associated "Blizzard" variables being loaded, and may therefore be delayed until after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD. The event may still be useful to override positioning data stored in layout-cache.txt "
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10:01.08vhallacBrilliant plan, changing the meaning of an existing event.
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10:16.36Repo10touhin: 03nebula169 * r30 Touhin.toc: ## X-LoadOn-Always: delayed
10:21.29Repo10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r138 Transcriptor.lua: Add UNIT_POWER logging for bosses.
10:24.43Repo10mob-spells: 03Rabbit * r94 MobSpells.lua: Drycoded 4.1 CLEU support.
10:35.48Repo10big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r8268 Blackwing/Chimaeron.lua:
10:35.49RepoChimaeron: show first Massacre timer and announce for the first stack of break
10:36.04vhaarrnebula169: what?
10:36.28nebula169hm? there was no timer in OnEngage for massacre and added a SPELL_AURA_APPLIED
10:36.36nebula169for break
10:36.55vhaarryes my bad, I misread
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11:03.50Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r8269 Blackwing/Nefarian.lua: 1st shadowblaze bar should be 13 sec too
11:05.59selckinnobody cares about break on chimaeron
11:06.01selckinjust spam
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12:16.54nebula169selckin: then turn it off? most the of the options are worthless for most people
12:18.03selckinthe reason i use bigwigs over dbm is that it has less useless warnings
12:18.14nebula169kind of a silly reason
12:18.18selckinmost of them are usefull to some people, like healer/dps/tank subset
12:18.20selckinbut break nobody cares
12:20.39nebula169i added the announce for the first mostly so i can yell at people in pugs for not taunting back, but yea, I agree it's a pretty useless thing to monitor
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14:26.56fropdello....is there a reason why the SimpleHTML does not display?
14:26.57frophttp://paste.wowace.com/3360/
14:27.39fropok...sorry...
14:27.53fropmissing one SetPoint :P
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17:18.52Torhal|worksylvanaar: ping
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17:19.13sylvanaaryo
17:19.35Torhal|worksylvanaar: I like the type-awareness...however...
17:19.57Torhal|workThe IDE knows that something is a frame but doesn't give a completion for, say, CreateTexture unless I use dot notation.
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17:21.54sylvanaarare you using the "add additional completions" option? is that what you mean by type awareness?
17:22.01Torhal|workYah
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17:52.10Axodioushey, thinking of leveling my dk, any recomendations on which spec for questing?
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17:58.10nebula169i'd imagine they're all pretty viable now, i usually level as a tank
17:58.29Axodiousyeah ive got tank for dungeons
17:58.51Axodiousjust figured one of the dps specs would be faster for quests
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18:31.48Mikkgrrr that mark-as-inactive bullshit is even nuking projects with toc 40000
18:32.58Repo10fubar-dummy: 03mikk * r6 FuBar.toc: Keep inactivity tracker happy
18:34.00Repo10fubar-dummy: 03mikk 044.0.6 * r7 : Tagging as 4.0.6
18:41.56Repo10free-refills: 03mikk * r103 FreeRefills.lua:
18:41.57RepoRemove the warning message about uncached items since it happens all the time as of 4.0.
18:42.16Repo10free-refills: 03mikk 04r103-release * r104 : Tagging as r103-release
18:44.04nevcairielMikk: there was a bug, but i thought Kaelten fixed those projects
18:44.44Mikkyeah it seems some are indeed fixed. i only got an "oops sorry" mail for one though
18:44.55Kaeltenyeah, the email didn't send for a bunch of them
18:45.08Kaeltenbut I fixed over a thousand affected projects later that night
18:45.23Kaeltenthat's what happens when a cron doesn't run for like.... months
18:45.26Kaeltenand suddenly you fix it
18:45.37nevcairieldid you get my form Kaelten?
18:45.51Kaeltenyes, and I forwarded it along
18:46.12nevcairielIt would've been easier for me to fax it to them directly. :p
18:46.34Kaeltenlol
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20:11.15Gnarfozfunny how hapless Phanx appears, trying to use the localization app, let alone svn
20:12.17StanzillaGnarfoz: did you break grid again?
20:12.23Stanzilla*she
20:12.34GnarfozI wouldn't know, haven't logged in, yet :P
20:12.50Gnarfozthe changelog for grid makes for an entertaining read, tho
20:12.51Gnarfoz;)
20:13.57nebula169hey, localization is hard ;[
20:14.13durcynit's not hard, it's just badly automated
20:14.18winkroflk
20:14.36nebula169i've actually never had issues with it
20:14.43durcynthere's absolutely no reason the localization app shouldn't be populated automatically by default
20:15.22Fiskerhey Gnarfoz
20:15.24Fiskerhey Stanzilla
20:15.27Fiskernot so hey durcyn
20:15.39nebula169i agree you should be able to point it at a base file, but to say it should be totally automatic is a bit reaching
20:15.44GnarfozI doubt that was the trouble she was having. :P
20:15.45durcynwhat fisker what
20:15.56nevcairielyou know, we even have tools to automate that
20:16.09nevcairielbasic lua script, run it on your addon, and it uploads the locale strings
20:16.31nevcairielfull automation will just break
20:16.32Fiskerhey nevcairiel
20:18.00Fiskerdo you have any news on when you're getting teh xoom in germanland?
20:18.29nebula169nevcairiel: oh? where is the script available? sounds neat
20:19.52sbuFisker: tomorrow!
20:20.00nevcairiel@describe localescraper
20:20.01Reponevcairiel: No project found that matches 'localescraper'
20:20.10nevcairiel@describe localescrapper
20:20.11Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/localescrapper/. LocaleScraper. Localization scraper + uploader for developers
20:20.17nebula169danke sehr
20:20.22nevcairieldman incosistent project name and slug
20:20.27nevcairieldamn typos, too
20:20.47Fiskerno sbu
20:21.15sbuFisker: Q2 2011 i think
20:21.37FiskerQ2 is a poor figure to throw out sbu
20:21.46sbuthats what they say *shrug*
20:22.00nevcairielend of april
20:22.11Fisker:<
20:22.34winkafter reading that ars article... not interested
20:22.35Fiskerif i were a politician i would ban non-worldwide releases
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21:57.50FiskerGnarfoz sbu or Stanzilla
21:57.51Fiskeragree with me
21:57.58FiskerIch bin böse und knallt die Tür is funny
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22:02.55Fiskerhey Stanzilla
22:04.54RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ by prencher
22:06.43mckenziemc~trout Repo
22:06.43purlACTION slaps Repo around a bit with a large trout!
22:06.43Fisker:( Stanzilla
22:08.14Fisker:< Stanzilla
22:10.24quiescenso.o
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22:11.21Stanzillawhy so :< Fisker
22:11.35Fiskerbecause you said hey Fisker
22:11.37Fiskerand i said hey Stanzilla
22:11.44Fiskerand then you were all quiet :(
22:11.59Stanzillathat's because of sinestra
22:12.24Fiskeroh ok
22:12.31Fiskeranyway
22:12.32Fiskerhey Stanzilla
22:12.42Megalonthat's like
22:12.44Megalona denied hi5
22:12.49Megalonlololo
22:15.12Fiskeri once killed a guy Megalon
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22:18.07mckenziemci once killed a Megalon guy
22:18.38Fiskeroh my god mckenziemc
22:18.59mckenziemcoh my Fisker god
22:19.58Fiskeroh my god
22:20.06mckenziemcoh god my
22:21.18Fiskergod my oh
22:23.29Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r155 Ailo.lua:
22:23.30RepoAlways tracks raids as 10man, this should solve the problem where raids still show multiple columns if one char got the id from 25m and another from 10m
22:24.00Megalonoh my god... it was like.. OH MY GOD
22:26.10Fiskeroh my god Megalon
22:26.27Stanzilla8% wipe sez: nooo :(
22:26.42mckenziemc8% wipe sez: noob*
22:28.09Stanzillayeah, need more dps but I did fine today :p
22:28.09FiskerFisker sez: yeeeeeeeeees :)
22:28.38Megalonololo Fisker
22:28.45Megalonwcg getting rid of sc1
22:28.51Megalonbut adding wow cataclysm
22:29.07Fiskersounds fair enough Megalon
22:30.52Megalonyea, as they have guitar hero
22:31.01Megalonperhaps they'll add wii sports in 2012
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22:31.11Megalonworld cybersex games
22:31.21Fiskerckknight
22:31.25Fiskerdarkspore?
22:31.29ckknightwhat about it?
22:31.31Megalonwtf is darkspore
22:31.40Megalonit's like spore
22:31.42Megalonbut fun
22:31.48ckknightyeah
22:32.18mckenziemcwhy did you just answer your own question?
22:32.24mckenziemcbecause you're a loonie
22:32.44Megalonnaw
22:33.38Megaloni watch0r1z0red the wtf is darkspore from totalbiscuit
22:33.48Megalonand it looked like it would be actual fun to play
22:34.50GnarfozI just watched Rain Man
22:35.08Gnarfozreminded me of Fisker
22:35.32ckknightbet two for good, Gnarfoz
22:35.35Megalondon't insult the authists man
22:35.53Megalonyou dun goof'd Gnarfoz
22:36.41Gnarfozwhat? no
22:36.52Pneumatuszzz
22:36.55GnarfozI meant Cruise's character of course, total prick
22:37.00Pneumatuswhy on earth is there no mount -l or similar
22:37.08Megalonoh, sorry then
22:37.13Gnarfozckknight: definitely 20
22:37.15Pneumatusi shouldnt have to read /proc/mounts to list active mounts :<
22:37.37Megalonyou can use auraid's of everymount
22:37.39Megalonand scan for them
22:37.42GnarfozMegalon: also, what are authists, people who do /msg nickserv auth a lot?
22:37.42Megalonherp derp
22:37.55Megaloni do
22:38.03Megalonbut it got me a restraining order
22:38.06Megalon:-(
22:38.16Gnarfoz(it's identify, not auth ;P)
22:38.17Megalonnow i can't connect to the europe hubs
22:38.28GnarfozAustralia is not part of Europe anyway, noob :<
22:38.46Megalondamn you
22:39.01Megaloni will send my horde of killerkoalas after you
22:39.34Fiskerwhat do you mean Gnarfoz ?
22:39.37Megalonthey will eucalyptus you to deaf
22:39.51Fiskeraustralia is like right smack in the middle of europe Gnarfoz
22:40.07Megalonand it has a population of about 8million
22:40.12Megalonnot counting the ones in the basements
22:40.30Megalonhe is trollin me Fisker
22:40.32Megalonhaaaaalp
22:40.51Pneumatuskoalas are into cloud computing?
22:40.55Pneumatusim confused
22:41.41Fiskeranyway
22:41.45Fiskergoodbye cruel world
22:42.12ckknightcya, Fisker
22:42.13Megalontime to shut down your inner daemon
22:42.24Gnarfoz*init daemon
22:43.56Megalondon't do it Gnarfoz
22:44.11Megalonyou'll be in limbo with Fisker forevar
22:44.30GnarfozI'll just jump off a crumbling building into the void
22:46.11Gnarfozechos b into Megalon's /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
22:46.40Megaloni cannot let you do that Gnarfoz
22:47.01Gnarfozyou're currently looking at your BIOS POST screen
22:47.07Gnarfozalso, you're now breathing manually
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22:50.12Megalondamn
22:50.18Brybrythat's just rude
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