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| 05:20.19 | Primer | recount's been fucking up the class colors lately |
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| 05:22.28 | asmodai | That will make for funny moments during raids :) |
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| 05:23.35 | the-golem | hmm |
| 05:24.21 | the-golem | ah, that's better |
| 05:30.38 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:30.41 | quiescens | it was asmodai |
| 05:30.45 | quiescens | points |
| 05:30.57 | quiescens | what's better? |
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| 05:36.05 | the-golem | oh, sorry |
| 05:36.11 | the-golem | my IRC window was messedx up |
| 05:36.47 | quiescens | it was probably asmodai's fault somehow |
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| 06:02.28 | asmodai | HAH |
| 06:02.37 | asmodai | messes with quiescens' IRC for good measure |
| 06:03.05 | quiescens | resists. |
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| 07:36.33 | asmodai | yep, got myself some coding projects |
| 07:36.55 | asmodai | nevcairiel: bt4's profile innards ought to be a shining example of how to do it well, right? |
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| 07:47.01 | mitch0 | I'm sure there are simpler examples out there :) |
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| 07:47.08 | asmodai | mitch0: *grin* |
| 07:47.21 | asmodai | mitch0: I just need to get enough clue to fix 2 addons' use of profiles. |
| 07:47.33 | asmodai | because they seem quite broken |
| 07:48.01 | mitch0 | hope they're not mine |
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| 07:57.08 | nevcairiel | asmodai: mitch0 is right, its not a simple example to look at. :p |
| 07:57.54 | asmodai | Is there an easier example? |
| 07:57.56 | mitch0 | maybe take a look at SUF instead :P |
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| 07:58.44 | asmodai | sure, also ok |
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| 08:01.06 | mckenziemc1 | melts it down |
| 08:01.17 | groktar | D: |
| 08:01.19 | groktar | noooo! |
| 08:02.53 | groktar | hateses filthy mckenziemc1 |
| 08:03.39 | groktar | my next task is making a secure smtp server for my serverpile |
| 08:03.41 | groktar | :/ |
| 08:06.25 | asmodai | you all got the dota 2 livestream open already? :P |
| 08:09.45 | asmodai | also : http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/17/wildstar-preview-hands-on-with-the-stylish-new-mmo/ |
| 08:09.53 | asmodai | you can really see the WoW-feel there |
| 08:12.31 | asmodai | and more http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/958664-WildStar-Carbine-Studios-New-MMORPG |
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| 08:22.20 | asmodai | Oh there we go. |
| 08:22.29 | asmodai | Dota 2 games now starting |
| 08:23.49 | jnwhiteh | i've lost my day |
| 08:23.50 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 08:24.02 | asmodai | jnwhiteh: hehehe |
| 08:24.35 | asmodai | Graphically it looks slick at least. |
| 08:24.44 | asmodai | Definitely much clearer than HoN |
| 08:24.56 | jnwhiteh | meh |
| 08:25.00 | jnwhiteh | looks a bit sloppy to me |
| 08:25.14 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure the picking process is as clear from the player perspective |
| 08:25.23 | jnwhiteh | this is the captain interface, remember |
| 08:25.28 | asmodai | ah ok |
| 08:25.29 | asmodai | true |
| 08:25.34 | asmodai | mmm |
| 08:25.42 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 08:25.47 | jnwhiteh | wnder if the english commentary is worth it |
| 08:25.51 | asmodai | I think they'll have that middle column |
| 08:26.41 | jnwhiteh | that would be nice |
| 08:26.45 | jnwhiteh | expect HoN to implement it :P |
| 08:26.54 | jnwhiteh | the female announcer sounds a bit too lol to me |
| 08:26.55 | asmodai | hehe, absolutely |
| 08:27.05 | asmodai | yeah, that announcer needs to be fixed |
| 08:27.07 | jnwhiteh | I love the HoN announcer |
| 08:27.12 | jnwhiteh | 'Radiant team pick' |
| 08:27.21 | jnwhiteh | 'and if you can manage, before I have to talk again, shoot me in the face' |
| 08:27.34 | asmodai | lol |
| 08:27.55 | jnwhiteh | i dont know the dota heroes as well as the hon ones |
| 08:28.00 | asmodai | I just wonder if they needed to stick to the agi,int,str arche types. |
| 08:28.08 | jnwhiteh | yeah dunno |
| 08:28.10 | jnwhiteh | they obviously chose to |
| 08:28.13 | asmodai | I used to play dota and then lol. Tried hon, but not my thing. |
| 08:28.22 | jnwhiteh | oh, I love HoN |
| 08:28.27 | jnwhiteh | the PEOPLE are douchebags |
| 08:28.32 | jnwhiteh | but I quite enjoy it |
| 08:28.41 | jnwhiteh | LoL was too easy mode |
| 08:28.42 | asmodai | I've been looking at that and lol's move to roles. Still not sure which is the better option. |
| 08:28.52 | jnwhiteh | that's why LoL's players can't handle HoN |
| 08:28.58 | jnwhiteh | its definitely harder |
| 08:29.21 | jnwhiteh | the archetypes aren't hard and fast in hon anymore |
| 08:29.23 | jnwhiteh | which is nice |
| 08:29.32 | asmodai | I never liked the denying concept from a game design perspective. But it works for others, so meh, to each his own. |
| 08:29.35 | asmodai | Absolutely. |
| 08:29.40 | jnwhiteh | they still exist, but they have roles that are independent of the archetype |
| 08:29.44 | jnwhiteh | ah denying is awesome |
| 08:29.48 | asmodai | Oh cute, they still have Tiny |
| 08:29.57 | jnwhiteh | ofc they have tiny |
| 08:29.58 | jnwhiteh | and lion :P |
| 08:30.01 | jnwhiteh | and lich |
| 08:30.02 | jnwhiteh | and sven |
| 08:30.16 | jnwhiteh | and <insert four letter character> |
| 08:30.33 | jnwhiteh | i like how they're picking in-game |
| 08:30.43 | asmodai | yeah, no loading crap |
| 08:30.44 | jnwhiteh | ack |
| 08:30.49 | jnwhiteh | looks lol >< |
| 08:30.56 | asmodai | good contrast |
| 08:31.08 | jnwhiteh | i'm not a fan of that visual style |
| 08:31.10 | asmodai | which was my beef with hon, always lost vision of units on the worldmap |
| 08:31.32 | asmodai | You must also not like Diablo 3's graphics then? :) |
| 08:31.38 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:31.41 | asmodai | Because it seems awfully in the same line. |
| 08:31.41 | jnwhiteh | diablo is different |
| 08:31.54 | jnwhiteh | I disagree |
| 08:31.55 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 08:32.01 | asmodai | hahaha, you may :D |
| 08:32.04 | jnwhiteh | one game, then I've gotta go to work |
| 08:32.11 | jnwhiteh | oh god |
| 08:32.13 | jnwhiteh | the creeps are huge |
| 08:32.27 | asmodai | oh, they also kept runes |
| 08:33.04 | asmodai | oh, nice UI touch with the regen showing on the right of the bar |
| 08:34.41 | asmodai | Well, they definitely put resources on this. |
| 08:35.48 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 08:35.58 | jnwhiteh | I wish they had stuck with the wc3 visual style |
| 08:36.01 | jnwhiteh | but meh |
| 08:36.15 | asmodai | Copyright/IP issues I guess if they did? |
| 08:36.23 | jnwhiteh | HoN managed to =) |
| 08:36.34 | jnwhiteh | also, you should watch the patch 2 test match on s2games youtube |
| 08:36.43 | asmodai | will do |
| 08:36.44 | jnwhiteh | their new spectator interface blows this out of the water |
| 08:36.50 | jnwhiteh | which surprises me. |
| 08:37.00 | jnwhiteh | but I guess, hon has been out for what, 3 years now? |
| 08:37.21 | asmodai | less |
| 08:37.25 | asmodai | released May 2010 |
| 08:38.20 | jnwhiteh | oh wow, then :P |
| 08:38.43 | jnwhiteh | courier is HUGE |
| 08:38.46 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 08:38.56 | asmodai | missed that |
| 08:39.19 | asmodai | was that a ward he placed? |
| 08:41.14 | asmodai | animations are well done I have to say |
| 08:41.54 | asmodai | oh, trees regrow? |
| 08:42.35 | jnwhiteh | they do in dota/hon as well |
| 08:42.45 | jnwhiteh | these commentators are freaking out. |
| 08:42.46 | asmodai | couldn't remember them regrowing in dota |
| 08:42.51 | jnwhiteh | i'm pretty sure they do |
| 08:42.51 | asmodai | what commentators? |
| 08:42.53 | jnwhiteh | eventually |
| 08:42.58 | jnwhiteh | i'm listeing to the english commentary |
| 08:43.04 | jnwhiteh | which is an option under the video |
| 08:43.06 | jnwhiteh | bt it reloads |
| 08:43.09 | asmodai | *checks* |
| 08:43.29 | asmodai | was just looking at the game |
| 08:44.42 | jnwhiteh | and now its cutting out |
| 08:44.44 | asmodai | breaking apart now though :D |
| 08:44.45 | jnwhiteh | quite annoying |
| 08:44.52 | asmodai | hahahah, like mobile phones with no reach |
| 08:45.30 | quiescens | blah |
| 08:45.38 | quiescens | go to sleeps |
| 08:45.42 | quiescens | ! |
| 08:45.45 | asmodai | tucks quiescens in |
| 08:46.01 | quiescens | noes |
| 08:46.03 | jnwhiteh | oh lag, how embarassing! |
| 08:46.06 | Megalon | ze lags |
| 08:46.12 | Megalon | ZE LAGS ARE KILLING ESPORT |
| 08:46.18 | asmodai | boom |
| 08:46.21 | asmodai | kaput |
| 08:46.22 | jnwhiteh | tiny will win this game |
| 08:46.28 | jnwhiteh | without a doubt |
| 08:46.38 | jnwhiteh | and no excuse, they should have known better |
| 08:46.55 | asmodai | they're playing locally I hope? |
| 08:47.09 | asmodai | or all over the net? |
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| 08:48.41 | Megalon | daggertiny |
| 08:49.28 | Megalon | MEGAKILL |
| 08:49.45 | quiescens | o.o |
| 08:50.25 | Megalon | it's like an agry 2ton bull |
| 08:50.28 | Megalon | appearing next to you |
| 08:52.18 | jnwhiteh | looks like they have denies |
| 08:52.36 | Megalon | and lag |
| 08:53.51 | jnwhiteh | yes, they have plenty of that |
| 08:54.09 | Megalon | 123 scv's killed |
| 08:54.10 | Megalon | kkkkkk |
| 08:54.15 | Megalon | what the kas |
| 08:55.07 | jnwhiteh | asmodai: its frozen for you as well? |
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| 08:56.22 | asmodai | yea |
| 08:56.24 | asmodai | was lagging as crazy |
| 08:56.30 | asmodai | now the splash screen again |
| 08:56.52 | Megalon | no worry, the dota2 servers just need to let off some steam |
| 08:56.55 | Megalon | hurr durr! |
| 08:56.59 | jnwhiteh | terrible. |
| 08:57.06 | jnwhiteh | not good for the first public display of dota2 |
| 08:57.06 | asmodai | and I cannot disable the commentary anymore XD |
| 08:57.07 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 08:57.17 | jnwhiteh | the commentary makes it make more sense |
| 08:57.23 | jnwhiteh | easier to hear whats going on as well |
| 08:57.39 | Megalon | and there is tiny, AVALANCHETOSSMEGAKILL! |
| 08:57.51 | jnwhiteh | and it comes back |
| 08:57.54 | jnwhiteh | lagging in place again |
| 08:57.58 | asmodai | and gone |
| 08:57.58 | jnwhiteh | and then back to splash |
| 08:58.02 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 08:58.02 | asmodai | cute |
| 08:58.47 | jnwhiteh | i need to go to the office |
| 08:58.52 | jnwhiteh | wanted to go when this match was done |
| 08:58.54 | jnwhiteh | maybe I should go now. |
| 08:58.59 | jnwhiteh | brb |
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| 09:03.40 | asmodai | so much for the first matches |
| 09:04.11 | Groktar | nibbles on asmodai's soul |
| 09:04.29 | asmodai | Groktar: I had none to start with |
| 09:04.43 | Groktar | that explains why it wasn't very filling |
| 09:04.46 | asmodai | :D |
| 09:04.52 | asmodai | server migrated++ |
| 09:05.01 | asmodai | still amazed I managed to get mail done in 1 go |
| 09:05.10 | Groktar | whatcha doin? |
| 09:05.14 | quiescens | pours coffee on the server |
| 09:05.46 | mckenziemc1 | pours the last batch of molten server on quiescens |
| 09:05.58 | quiescens | dies. |
| 09:06.13 | bluspacecow | pours the last of quiescens on mck |
| 09:06.24 | quiescens | dies. |
| 09:06.35 | mckenziemc1 | falls asleep |
| 09:06.44 | bluspacecow | *revives quiescens* |
| 09:07.01 | quiescens | yay |
| 09:07.18 | mckenziemc1 | wakes up |
| 09:07.23 | mckenziemc1 | devives quiescens |
| 09:07.28 | quiescens | dies. |
| 09:07.42 | jnwhiteh | asmodai: did they just shut it down? |
| 09:08.03 | asmodai | apparently |
| 09:08.04 | asmodai | but |
| 09:08.09 | asmodai | they managed to reload the state? |
| 09:08.38 | asmodai | Groktar: was migrating my server box to a new machine. |
| 09:09.12 | Groktar | oic |
| 09:09.21 | jnwhiteh | commentary DOWN |
| 09:09.35 | asmodai | yay! |
| 09:09.38 | asmodai | peace... |
| 09:09.42 | asmodai | and quiet |
| 09:09.47 | jnwhiteh | you could always click 'None' |
| 09:10.29 | asmodai | jnwhiteh: didn't work |
| 09:10.33 | jnwhiteh | seems a bit hard to see heroes on the minimap |
| 09:10.34 | asmodai | jnwhiteh: kept resetting to English |
| 09:10.40 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 09:10.44 | Megalon | omg |
| 09:10.45 | Megalon | kelly |
| 09:10.45 | asmodai | and now splash screen again |
| 09:10.53 | jnwhiteh | TINIED |
| 09:11.03 | asmodai | jnwhiteh: even repasting the None commentary link gave me English XD |
| 09:11.27 | asmodai | and again |
| 09:11.29 | asmodai | splash screen |
| 09:11.34 | jnwhiteh | I'm not getting splash at all |
| 09:11.38 | jnwhiteh | its 3/13, 22:57 |
| 09:12.20 | asmodai | weird, why am I getting the splash |
| 09:12.26 | jnwhiteh | not sure |
| 09:12.41 | jnwhiteh | I won't reload tho =) |
| 09:16.25 | jnwhiteh | wow, nice swing |
| 09:16.29 | jnwhiteh | genocide |
| 09:16.43 | quiescens | what are you watching o.o |
| 09:16.45 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 09:16.47 | jnwhiteh | and frozen again. |
| 09:18.49 | asmodai | quiescens: dota2 live stream |
| 09:21.06 | jnwhiteh | bkb on the field! |
| 09:21.16 | asmodai | bkb? |
| 09:21.22 | asmodai | oh, black king bar? |
| 09:23.13 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 09:23.19 | jnwhiteh | why didn't they initiate at the tower, bizarre |
| 09:24.53 | asmodai | ah yeah, you could buy earlier resurrection |
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| 09:27.51 | harl | [wuff!] |
| 09:28.39 | asmodai | Love how tiny Grows older visually |
| 09:28.47 | jnwhiteh | they're playing defensively |
| 09:28.52 | jnwhiteh | which is understandable |
| 09:28.55 | jnwhiteh | but bad for radiant |
| 09:29.09 | jnwhiteh | although tiny doesn't get any better |
| 09:29.15 | jnwhiteh | rosh! |
| 09:29.54 | asmodai | ah yes, Roshan |
| 09:30.22 | asmodai | Love how LoL named it Nashor |
| 09:30.36 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 09:30.50 | jnwhiteh | I'm partial to kongor the ape |
| 09:31.07 | jnwhiteh | heh, rosh has 20hp/s regen |
| 09:31.11 | Megalon | commentary is broken? :c |
| 09:31.17 | jnwhiteh | at the moment, yeah |
| 09:31.23 | jnwhiteh | they've had lots of issues this match |
| 09:31.27 | jnwhiteh | probably fixed for the next one |
| 09:31.37 | jnwhiteh | do we have any idea how many heroes they have? |
| 09:32.07 | Megalon | i'd guess 80+, of which 15 are played in tourneys ;< |
| 09:32.23 | asmodai | some other games are done |
| 09:32.54 | asmodai | Witch Doctor, beastmaster, windrunner, enigma, weaver, earthshaker, vengeful spirit, puck, drow ranger, pugna |
| 09:33.02 | asmodai | sven, lion, lich, tiny |
| 09:33.31 | asmodai | night stalker ,crystal maiden, chen, venomancer, sniper, |
| 09:34.03 | jnwhiteh | where are you getting the list? |
| 09:34.19 | asmodai | http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/game/103 |
| 09:34.26 | asmodai | http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/game/104 |
| 09:34.29 | asmodai | plus the current game |
| 09:34.32 | jnwhiteh | ah cool |
| 09:35.13 | asmodai | 19, so I guess they have 20 heroes at the moment at least |
| 09:35.20 | jnwhiteh | oh lord |
| 09:35.27 | jnwhiteh | they went with purple for 'epic' items |
| 09:36.06 | asmodai | It's easy to have people udnerstand it :) |
| 09:36.19 | asmodai | wow, tiny is huge |
| 09:36.27 | asmodai | ah, tidehunter |
| 09:36.29 | asmodai | the 20th |
| 09:36.34 | Megalon | i hope rapier is orange ; |
| 09:36.35 | Megalon | < |
| 09:36.43 | asmodai | oh, spectre |
| 09:37.30 | jnwhiteh | this rosh ill could be big |
| 09:37.34 | jnwhiteh | spectre takes it? |
| 09:38.53 | jnwhiteh | 'make a henge from my stones'.. really? |
| 09:41.52 | jnwhiteh | ouch |
| 10:23.50 | jnwhiteh | 87 minutes. |
| 10:23.50 | jnwhiteh | jesus. |
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| 11:54.08 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 12:31.57 | asmodai | crud |
| 12:32.50 | asmodai | Wonder if they will do some more rerouting in order to fix this problem my cable provider has. |
| 12:43.54 | prencher | man, dota2 looks exactly like dota, with nothing new to it, almost even more so than hon |
| 12:44.02 | prencher | I guess that's what you get when you hire a hack like icefrog |
| 12:49.11 | asmodai | Heh |
| 12:49.29 | asmodai | Mmm, ok, so the transmogrifier and void storage purpose now confirmed |
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| 12:55.41 | nevcairiel | last patch before the next expansion already? guess they're really stepping up the schedule |
| 12:57.02 | nevcairiel | new expansion means i'll probably play again for 1-2 month, meh. :p |
| 12:57.53 | prencher | nevcairiel: accounting probably told them that if they release every 6- months, people won't play for a month and unsubscribe until the next expansion |
| 12:58.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Where did find that? |
| 12:58.23 | profalbert_ | New Raid - The Deathwing raid, making it very likely to be the last patch before the next expansion. |
| 12:58.27 | profalbert_ | mmo-champion |
| 12:58.28 | nevcairiel | its just guessing |
| 12:58.38 | nevcairiel | but deathwing is the big bad in this expansion |
| 12:58.40 | asmodai | profalbert_: call me blind |
| 12:58.47 | asmodai | profalbert_: read over that twice |
| 12:58.56 | asmodai | thinks he should focus on his code |
| 12:59.22 | asmodai | But, like with BC, Illidan's raid wasn't the last |
| 12:59.43 | nevcairiel | but in wrath, the LK was |
| 12:59.52 | asmodai | true |
| 12:59.55 | nevcairiel | if you dont count halion with his one-boss dealy |
| 13:00.02 | asmodai | heh |
| 13:00.44 | profalbert | how long was it from ICC-release to next expansion? |
| 13:00.55 | nevcairiel | a year |
| 13:01.00 | nevcairiel | more or less |
| 13:01.10 | nevcairiel | but ICC was big, and it was gated |
| 13:01.15 | nevcairiel | and there was halion |
| 13:01.28 | nevcairiel | i dont know how much content the deathwing raid will have, though |
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| 13:01.49 | nevcairiel | assuming 4.3 comes out, say, in 2 month |
| 13:02.04 | nevcairiel | i would see the next expansion for summer '12 |
| 13:02.59 | nevcairiel | but by then we hopefully have d3, so maybe i wont be switching to wow again. :P |
| 13:03.26 | profalbert | but there are no mods in d3 ;) |
| 13:04.36 | asmodai | grins |
| 13:04.50 | nevcairiel | that expression was something that puzzle me. By a "mod" i would usually understand something that modifys game play, not a UI addon |
| 13:05.02 | nevcairiel | +d |
| 13:05.22 | prencher | or it modifies the ui? |
| 13:05.57 | nevcairiel | I think they are more refering to the concept of actual mods that float around the Diablo 2 universe |
| 13:06.05 | nevcairiel | not the concept of addons ala WoW |
| 13:06.23 | dieck | like dota to wc3? |
| 13:06.28 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:07.09 | profalbert | but this kind of modding wasn't supported in d2 either, was it? |
| 13:07.22 | prencher | we'll see, it might well have mods similar to the sc2 setup |
| 13:07.25 | nevcairiel | Not supported, but i dont think they really tried to block it either |
| 13:07.40 | prencher | they just don't want to let people touch the ui |
| 13:07.56 | nevcairiel | thats the thing - thats something i didnt read out of the posts |
| 13:07.58 | dieck | I'm still waiting for a level designer and user-created wow dungeons :) |
| 13:08.09 | nevcairiel | What i understood was that they just don't want people to bot, or modify the game play |
| 13:08.25 | nevcairiel | If they include UI modifications in that is unclear to me |
| 13:08.36 | nevcairiel | They have to know what success WoWs UI addons had |
| 13:08.38 | prencher | nevcairiel: first blizzcon they announced it |
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| 13:08.49 | prencher | they very explicitly said they wanted no ui addons |
| 13:08.53 | prencher | due to balancing |
| 13:09.09 | prencher | not sure about the rest, but the first time they talked about it, it very laser focused on ui |
| 13:09.16 | profalbert | and the same guys say, "we won't balance PvP in Diablo 3" |
| 13:09.28 | nevcairiel | I dunno, Diablo was never a big PvP game for me. :p |
| 13:09.40 | profalbert | i agree |
| 13:09.51 | prencher | but it's blizzard, so who really knows |
| 13:09.56 | prencher | they change their mind a couple times a week |
| 13:09.59 | nevcairiel | as i understand it, they will have arenas in D3 |
| 13:10.07 | asmodai | oh lord >_< |
| 13:10.12 | asmodai | not more pvp/pve balancing crap |
| 13:10.20 | nevcairiel | so you dont have to fight in some random place anymore, you can go to the proper place to fight |
| 13:10.36 | prencher | oh yeah.. they have pvp arenas with full on matchmaking and rankings |
| 13:10.53 | prencher | seems like a horrible fit for d3, but gotta pimp them battle.net features I guess |
| 13:11.19 | nevcairiel | As long as the PvE doesn't suffer from that, they should knock themself out. :) |
| 13:11.25 | nevcairiel | Can |
| 13:11.32 | nevcairiel | Can't wait to create my demon hunter. :p |
| 13:11.39 | prencher | yeah, indeed.. and it sounds like they're going about it the right way |
| 13:11.47 | prencher | they won't change abilities or items for the sake of pvp |
| 13:11.53 | prencher | but they will do alternate versions of some skills for pvp |
| 13:11.54 | prencher | if needed |
| 13:12.20 | prencher | much like sc2 |
| 13:12.54 | nevcairiel | sc2 is different, the AI has the same possibilites a player has, as they all play in fixed classes |
| 13:13.09 | prencher | nevcairiel: what I mean is that if you look at sc2 |
| 13:13.17 | prencher | it's a completely different set of values and units in sp vs mp |
| 13:13.26 | prencher | they're doing that kind of thing in d3 as well |
| 13:13.33 | nevcairiel | sp would probably be too hard otherwise. :) |
| 13:13.38 | prencher | all abilities have two versions |
| 13:13.40 | prencher | pve and pvp |
| 13:13.51 | prencher | sometimes they're the same, but if they need to tweak at all for pvp, they won't touch the pve version |
| 13:14.21 | prencher | that's what they said at last years blizzcon at any rate |
| 13:14.48 | nevcairiel | lets hope they stick to that |
| 13:15.01 | nevcairiel | They always refused to do that for WoW, because it would apparently be too complicated |
| 13:15.11 | nevcairiel | (for the player to understand) |
| 13:15.52 | prencher | wel in d3 it's two different game modes |
| 13:15.58 | prencher | not a different target |
| 13:16.13 | nevcairiel | Do you actually have to create a PvP character? |
| 13:16.27 | prencher | no, you bring your pve character |
| 13:16.29 | prencher | gear and all |
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| 13:16.43 | nevcairiel | Seems similar, depending on what you do, the stats change |
| 13:16.50 | nevcairiel | I mean, is there no open-world pvp? |
| 13:16.55 | prencher | nope |
| 13:17.10 | prencher | they've said there's no way to enable pvp in the pve mode |
| 13:17.17 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 13:17.21 | prencher | which sucks tbh |
| 13:17.36 | prencher | but too much griefing apparently |
| 13:17.43 | asmodai | Still don't get why people who want to do pvp just go play something like Bloodline Champions. |
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| 13:17.57 | prencher | asmodai: well that's essentially what d3's arenas are |
| 13:18.04 | asmodai | dedicated focus and balancing == best |
| 13:18.06 | nevcairiel | WoW also was never a PvP game, yet people insisted |
| 13:18.08 | prencher | except with your heroes that you've leveled |
| 13:18.18 | prencher | asmodai: it's because people like to use the shit they've earned |
| 13:18.20 | asmodai | nevcairiel: And we've seen the pain from that. |
| 13:19.02 | prencher | well, d3 allows them to go about it the right way by having the stuff separated, so the balancing nightmare that is wow won't happen |
| 13:19.04 | prencher | or shouldn't happen |
| 13:19.51 | nevcairiel | as long as PvE remains fun, and abilities not cut down just because they were OP, i'm all good |
| 13:20.18 | nevcairiel | also, someone fix google code |
| 13:20.39 | prencher | yeah they actually explicitly mentioned that nev |
| 13:21.07 | prencher | that they're not going to tone down completely OP pve abilities for pvp, because it's fun to be OP in pve |
| 13:21.40 | prencher | that's where the pvp versions of the abilities come in.. they will tune the values, number of affected targets and so on |
| 13:21.42 | prencher | but only for pvp |
| 13:22.26 | prencher | beta is soon enough, guess we'll see for ourselves |
| 13:23.08 | nevcairiel | Curse just has to provide keys for us! |
| 13:23.54 | prencher | I have all the keys, you can't have them |
| 13:24.14 | asmodai | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/17/wildstar-preview/ |
| 13:25.23 | nevcairiel | All those MMOs coming out of that direction were always so bad grind-fests. :( |
| 13:25.50 | asmodai | I wonder if grind can be avoided at all. |
| 13:27.24 | prencher | guild wars did a pretty good job of avoiding grind |
| 13:27.57 | prencher | we'll see if they can keep that with gw2 with its open world setup |
| 13:28.09 | nevcairiel | Aion was terrible |
| 13:28.45 | prencher | ncsoft just needs to put arenanet in charge of their shit |
| 13:29.59 | asmodai | Aion was Korean grindfest |
| 13:30.20 | prencher | racist |
| 13:31.26 | asmodai | Well, most Korean MMOs are grindfests. Fact. |
| 13:31.39 | [Ammo] | and they all suck donkey balls |
| 13:32.52 | nevcairiel | And NCsoft is korean |
| 13:32.59 | nevcairiel | and Wildstar is published by NCsoft |
| 13:33.02 | nevcairiel | therefor... |
| 13:33.17 | [Ammo] | lots of ball sucking |
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| 13:34.48 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Well, hopefully done by NCSoft in the USA, which is less grindy. |
| 13:36.18 | nevcairiel | The main point is, in the MMO genre, more games have disappointed then not. :p |
| 13:37.09 | prencher | eq, daoc, wow, guild wars, eve.. anything beyond that that haven't sucked big sweaty man balls? |
| 13:37.16 | asmodai | nevcairiel: true, true |
| 13:37.31 | asmodai | I would even scratch Eve from that list. |
| 13:37.39 | prencher | asmodai: that's personal preference |
| 13:37.44 | asmodai | Yep |
| 13:37.46 | prencher | I'm not keen on it either |
| 13:37.48 | nevcairiel | Eve is a special kind of style, either you love it, or you hate it |
| 13:37.58 | prencher | but it's hugely popular, and it's super loved by the people that play it |
| 13:38.04 | nevcairiel | But it has a steady community and is running |
| 13:38.12 | prencher | and it's still growing |
| 13:38.26 | asmodai | I gave it another try again recently, parts of it scream: Elite! and then it falls kaput in screams of nullsec shittiness. |
| 13:38.54 | nevcairiel | EQ is probably dead by now, not sure if they still have many people playing it, probably same for daoc |
| 13:39.24 | asmodai | still have expansions |
| 13:39.24 | prencher | there's decent chunks for both of them, but more importantly I meant those were good mmos |
| 13:39.26 | asmodai | Well, EQ2 |
| 13:39.58 | prencher | I can't think of any other ones that were good |
| 13:40.03 | asmodai | Destiny of Velious Expansion 22 February 2011 |
| 13:40.04 | asmodai | Age of Discovery Expansion November 2011 |
| 13:40.09 | asmodai | hah, still making them :D |
| 13:40.16 | nevcairiel | warhammer would've been a good MMO, if there wasn't WoW to taint it, it was just too similar |
| 13:40.18 | prencher | aoc if you only counted level 1-10 i guess :p |
| 13:40.21 | asmodai | it's the 11th |
| 13:41.02 | nevcairiel | (and EA to f'ck it up) |
| 13:41.40 | asmodai | lol, that too |
| 13:41.48 | asmodai | Wonder how Dark Millennium will do |
| 13:42.08 | prencher | TOR is going to be a fucking disaster |
| 13:42.23 | prencher | only mmo I have any hope for whatsoever at this point is guild wars 2 |
| 13:42.25 | prencher | so sad |
| 13:42.50 | nevcairiel | I was never a big fan of guild wars, but i guess thats a matter of taste |
| 13:44.39 | nevcairiel | there are so many universes that would've made great MMOs, and they all got tainted by failed attempts |
| 13:44.40 | prencher | I did like gw, but it's more that I know that ArenaNet has the ability to deliver on it that I'm looking forward to 2 |
| 13:45.04 | prencher | daoc-like pvp model, open world, free movement, etc |
| 13:46.49 | asmodai | I wonder why so many people are hung up on SW:TOR as the saviour of MMOs? |
| 13:48.31 | nevcairiel | I wonder why my Chrome frequently fails to go back to the last page i viewed when pressing the "back" button |
| 13:48.34 | nevcairiel | stupid dev channel |
| 13:50.37 | prencher | asmodai: because it's a wow clone in the sw universe and people are sheep? |
| 13:50.46 | asmodai | ah |
| 13:50.49 | asmodai | that might be it |
| 13:52.38 | nevcairiel | I would probably play it for a while if its any good |
| 13:53.07 | nevcairiel | just has to be different enough from WoW so it doesn't bore me immediately. :p |
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| 13:55.29 | prencher | nevcairiel: what I hear is, from people that still like wow is "it's different and awesome" |
| 13:55.37 | prencher | and from people that are bored of wow "it's just like wow, meh" |
| 13:55.39 | prencher | soo... |
| 13:57.30 | prencher | uh.. what the fuck? https://wrathofheroes.warhammeronline.com/ |
| 13:59.46 | nevcairiel | wth is that |
| 13:59.55 | prencher | http://www.whalliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=352993 |
| 14:00.13 | prencher | apparently it's.. a 6v6v6 arena |
| 14:00.24 | nevcairiel | the gfx looks worse then WoW at launch day |
| 14:00.40 | nevcairiel | IMHO anyway |
| 14:00.41 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:01.57 | asmodai | like a Borderlands-style, but failing |
| 14:03.01 | nevcairiel | a game completely focused on arena play can of course be fun, but i never was a fan of 3 team combat |
| 14:03.35 | prencher | you need 3+ for pvp in mmos to work, but not in arenas |
| 14:03.38 | prencher | so yeah it's a bit weird |
| 14:13.56 | asmodai | http://notch.tumblr.com/ |
| 14:13.59 | asmodai | hahaha, top post |
| 14:17.40 | asmodai | also: http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT080811195102&p=8 Garlic Memory Interface? |
| 14:25.15 | nevcairiel | they really called it like that |
| 14:25.28 | nevcairiel | well, codename |
| 14:29.15 | asmodai | lol |
| 14:29.19 | asmodai | there is also Onion |
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| 14:52.46 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XgQZEfua_E0&hd=1 |
| 14:59.46 | asmodai | jnwhiteh: found these so far: |
| 14:59.48 | asmodai | Anti-Mage, Beastmaster, Chen, Clockwerk, Crystal Maiden, Dark Seer, Dazzle, Doom Bringer, Drow Ranger, Earthshaker, Enchantress, Enigma, Leshrac, Lich, Lina, Lion, Mirana, Nature's Prophet, Necrolyte, Night Stalker, Puck, Pugna, Razor, Sand King, Shadow Fiend, Shadow Shaman, Slardar, Sniper, Spectre, Storm Spirit, Sven, Tidehunter, Tiny, Vengeful Spirit, Venomancer, Viper, Weaver, Windrunner, Witch Doctor, Zeus |
| 14:59.52 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 15:00.05 | asmodai | So looks like they converted most, if not all, of dota's |
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| 16:03.43 | Funkeh` | I like that since Cataclysm they still haven't fixed the guild roster error when someone logs whilst you're zoning |
| 16:04.31 | Funkeh` | class or "unknown" |
| 16:04.34 | Funkeh` | there, fixed |
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| 16:28.40 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1641 Caster.lua: - Updating for 4.2 |
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| 16:30.33 | asmodai | Funkeh`: sounds like another round of that addon "blizzard sucks" ;) |
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| 16:58.05 | Yoshimo | if i want to see which raidabilities like laststand or battelrezz are on cd for my partymembers, which addon should i use for tracking? |
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| 17:03.41 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1644 Data/Priest.lua: |
| 17:03.42 | Repo | - Renew and Holy Nova heal coefficients slightly more accurate now |
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| 17:15.13 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1645 Data (2 files in 1 directory): - 4.2 hotfix changes |
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| 17:42.27 | Gagorian | ~toc |
| 17:42.27 | purl | The current WoW Interface Number is: 40200, or magical |
| 17:43.22 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1646 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Fixed typo |
| 17:43.23 | Repo | - Changed TOC to 40200 |
| 17:46.53 | asmodai | Yoshimo: party ability bars, track cooldowns |
| 17:47.08 | asmodai | latter seems pretty uptodate |
| 17:55.42 | harl | oRA3 can recognize some of those too |
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| 18:12.48 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:12.52 | quiescens | go to sleep~ |
| 18:14.38 | mckenziemc | sprinkles sleep powder onto quiescens |
| 18:14.59 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 18:57.47 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1647 / (11 files in 2 directories): - Added some T12 sets and season 10 arena sets |
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| 19:04.57 | koaschten | whats the quickest way to darnassus from stormwind? portal hyjal then fly? |
| 19:05.13 | SunTsu | ask a mage ;) |
| 19:05.30 | koaschten | naaa those greedy bastards want coins :( |
| 19:06.38 | koaschten | there we go, first whisper 30g |
| 19:06.48 | SunTsu | stormwind has a direct ship line to Ruth'eran, which probably is faster if the ship is there, if not porti+flying is faster, probably |
| 19:08.22 | koaschten | playing horde for 6 years and then switching is showing eeh? |
| 19:10.41 | Talryn | Is there a way in a macro to use a trinket by name, but use one of two trinkets based on which is equipped? |
| 19:10.55 | Slayman | Why'd you downgrade from horde to the lowly alliance? |
| 19:11.04 | Dark_Elf | stormwind by boat |
| 19:12.01 | Slayman | Talryn: /use 13 /use 14 |
| 19:12.36 | Talryn | Yes but I was trying to avoid that in case the trinket was moved for some reason. That's why I had hoped to use it by name. So far I do not see a way to do that. |
| 19:13.21 | Talryn | If I have to do the use by item slot then I guess I'll have to make sure the gear sets never switch them. |
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| 19:48.43 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMDpb97KvcA&hd=1 |
| 19:48.50 | asmodai | does have some nice visuals |
| 19:48.55 | asmodai | GW2 long trailer |
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| 21:04.09 | Repo | Experimental fix: Increase delay between possible timer broadcasts to 3sec (BW throttle) |
| 21:04.23 | Repo | 10cbmt: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-5b * r56 : beta-5b tagged. |
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| 22:42.03 | Repo | 10libsynctime-1-0: 03stolenlegacy * r5 LibSyncTime-1.0/LibSyncTime-1.0.lua: |
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| 23:47.45 | harl | "Hmmm, I'm thirsty!" |
| 23:48.03 | harl | tentacles around a bit |
| 23:48.42 | SinusPi | hides his own tentacles, lest they entangle. |
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| 23:49.47 | harl | oh, would that be a bad thing? ;) |
| 23:55.38 | harl | hehe.. http://amysodyssey.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/day-of-the-tentacle/ |
| 23:55.45 | harl | (i know it's old) |
| 23:57.26 | SinusPi | Purple and Green! "My good pets, actually... until one of them tried to take on the world..." |
| 23:58.50 | harl | ^^ |