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00:27.36Repo2d13e74: Removed the mob, Grimtotem Geomancer from the Mob db because they don't drop anything profession relevant anymore
00:27.37Repo6a9ba90: Marked the "Robes of Arcana" Tailoring recipe as removed from the game
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01:20.31Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ananhaid * r3553 Locales/constants.tw.lua: AtlasLoot:
01:20.32RepozhTW update.
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11:26.18Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r8645 Firelands/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE update.
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11:35.40Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r8646 Firelands/Ragnaros.lua: change heroic engulfing timer
11:35.41Repostop some bars
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13:56.27Repo- fix colors of player/target/focus/party health frames
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14:15.01starlon@describe tehtip
14:15.02Repostarlon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tehtip/. TehTip. Very very simple tooltip
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14:30.01RepoFirelands/Alysrazor: Initiate spawn timers based purely on ticket #369. Drycoded and currently unverified.
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15:37.59RepoChanges to localization and drycoded attempt at a Superheated stacks bar
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16:28.16durcynusing 'teh' should be grounds for euthanasia
16:29.00nevcairieli typo that sometimes. :(
16:31.48Funkeh`http://www.buildwindows.com/ livestream for anyone that doesn't know
16:31.57asmodaieutehnasia.
16:34.09asmodai"It's alive... ALIVE!!"
16:36.15asmodaiGood to see that C/C++ with Win32 still appears on those slides ^^
16:37.22asmodaiThe most robust? I'm sure the Non-Stop architecture wants to have a word with him. ;)
16:39.34StanzillaI don't like the window caption in the center
16:39.37Stanzilla*nitpick*
16:39.56asmodaiStanzilla: *grin*
16:40.08asmodaiMy god, their voices skip a lot :|
16:40.12Stanzillait doesn't look really good
16:40.51MegalonGEOCITIES PAGES FOR WINDOWS
16:40.55Megaloncan't wait for it
16:40.57Funkeh`its crystal clear here
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16:41.09Megalonit looks so sd
16:41.10asmodaiat least they use html 5 by default
16:41.14Funkeh`earlier they demos the ebst part
16:41.22Funkeh`spellchecked across the entire windows system!
16:41.27Funkeh`checker*
16:41.42asmodaiFunkeh`: That might actually be useful
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16:41.56Funkeh`for me hell yeah ^^
16:42.08asmodaiFunkeh`: One can but hope they will hook it into all games ;)
16:42.20Funkeh`Well it was demoed in IE10
16:42.22Megaloninto youtube comments
16:42.45Funkeh`dunno about directx stuff
16:42.59asmodaiMegalon: that too :)
16:43.19asmodai"I'm sorry, did you mean: Up yours, cunt?"
16:45.02asmodaiCrud, they're providing straight hooks to the Windows API from JS? This will be fun on the web.
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16:48.06asmodaiNo permissions requested to post to facebook? Oh this will be fun. ^^
16:49.02Funkeh`it's a preview :P
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16:49.14asmodaiheh
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16:54.18asmodaiok, that app certification feedback is nice to see
16:54.41nevcairielstill pointless really. If it gets stuck anywhere, sure you know where, but what does that give you? :D
16:55.09asmodaiBut it's a featurrrrrrrrre
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16:57.30asmodaiSo far it's nothing that the Android Market doesn't already have
16:57.39nevcairieli think trial is new
16:57.45nevcairielunless i missed that in android
16:58.08asmodaiTrue
16:58.19asmodaisorry, I meant more the app details page
16:59.26nevcairielnow i can turn it off, screw silverlight. :P
16:59.29asmodaiyeah
16:59.32Funkeh`lol
16:59.36asmodaidie silverlight
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17:05.47asmodaiLove seeing ARM there on the architecture supported.
17:06.04asmodaiWho would ever have thought, a few years ago, that would happen.
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17:09.02nevcairielit was kinda obvious really
17:09.25nevcairieleven though ARM isn't anywhere near powerful enough yet to challenge x86
17:09.25asmodaiNot yet.
17:09.34nevcairielbut on ultra portables, it'll be used alot more in the future
17:10.30Funkeh`nice security
17:10.33nevcairielmoving the typical desktop over to ARM will at least be a decade  more, or something
17:10.43Funkeh`didnt think it would have been running when he demoed the memory usage
17:10.59Funkeh`its like 200mb ish lower than 7
17:11.10asmodaiThat's nice
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17:17.32Funkeh`no mention of a new directx
17:17.35asmodaiI am not sure if I am waiting for touch on my desktop monitor though
17:17.42asmodaiFunkeh`: yeah, was also looking out for that
17:17.54asmodaiFunkeh`: Still not sure if that would be 11.1 or 12 though.
17:17.54Funkeh`mm, unless it's coming later
17:18.03asmodaiPossibly
17:18.06Funkeh`Id wager 11.1
17:18.14Funkeh`or was, anyway
17:19.31asmodaiOr maybe they just stick with 11 for now. Get more games out for it, stabilize the API/drivers combo.
17:20.51Funkeh`haha 3 lines
17:22.30asmodaiUntil you want to do something more and then the syntactic sugar doesn't help anymore ;)
17:25.26Funkeh`ima make my synthetic sugar and sell it for 8 bucks hell yeah
17:25.47Funkeh`3 lines ULTRA LIGHT
17:26.02Funkeh`it has light in the name, best seller
17:27.04winklike Miller light?
17:27.34Funkeh`touche
17:27.50Funkeh`that's like drinking piss
17:27.55asmodaiheh
17:28.04asmodaiI wonder how those ultrabooks will sell
17:28.04winkand never getting drunk
17:28.16Funkeh`a lot I think
17:28.27Funkeh`macbook air are sexy
17:28.32asmodaiFunkeh`: if the battery is ok :)
17:28.36Funkeh`there needed to be a windows alternative
17:28.58asmodaiboom, free tablet thinghy
17:29.02winkmacbook air isn't so sexy if you got VMs running
17:29.06Funkeh`yeah heard about that
17:29.08Funkeh`lucky bastards
17:29.18asmodaiHe's like Oprah
17:29.22asmodai"EVERYBODY GETS ONE!"
17:29.25Funkeh`hahahaha
17:29.45Funkeh`holy shit
17:29.49Funkeh`those are some nice specs
17:29.52asmodaiyea
17:29.52Funkeh`for free? wtf?
17:30.01asmodaiyes
17:30.37asmodaiand free 3g
17:30.39asmodaiheheh
17:31.42Stanzillaonly the paying people get the tablets for free
17:31.45Stanzillapress doesnt
17:31.54asmodaiSmart tactic. One time investment of $ X. and they will spread the hype/word
17:31.54Funkeh`haha fuck you press
17:33.03asmodaihehehe
17:33.31asmodaiI wonder if you can disable that Metro view on your normal desktop
17:33.37asmodaiI mean, the app style view
17:33.38Stanzillayou can
17:33.44asmodai*phew*
17:33.45Stanzillathe old windows deskop is like an app now
17:33.55Stanzillayou just run that or the new thingy
17:34.00asmodaiah
17:34.00Stanzillaand switch between them
17:34.16asmodaiNice.
17:36.15Stanzillapress got the tablets too btw, just have to give them back after review :D
17:36.55asmodaihehehe
17:37.16asmodaiman, if Windows even becoming nice to use? I mean, I am already fairly happy with Windows 7.
17:37.20asmodais/if/is
17:37.33Funkeh`metro is growing on me already and I haven't even used it yet
17:37.55Funkeh`but /fap over this new task manager
17:39.45asmodaiyea
17:39.47asmodaioh dear
17:39.59asmodaidid they just push ghosy out of the market? :)
17:40.04asmodaighost
17:40.22Funkeh`hell yeah
17:40.40Funkeh`I'd still rather clean install, but Im sure it's useful for some people
17:40.55asmodainods
17:40.59asmodaiIt will save me phonecalls
17:41.04asmodaifrom family
17:41.16asmodaiNot that they dare call me much nowadays
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17:44.56asmodaijeez, some daemon tools/unix integration wrt mounting of images. About time :P
17:50.32asmodaiHaha, friend of mine on twitter:
17:50.34asmodaies all nice, but can I copy and paste in cmd yet?
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17:59.30asmodaiFunkeh`: Still not sure about the very, very minimalistic look of the widgets at times though.
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17:59.58Funkeh`"live" widgets look better
18:00.09asmodaimost look good, but sometimes the line height or something seem to make it look very barren or bleak
18:01.10quiescens~
18:03.05asmodaiLooking at all these integration options, the whole Google movement with their Chromebooks and their Android intent make so much more sense now.
18:03.51Funkeh`it's the "future" (that I won't use :P)
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18:04.33asmodaiFunkeh`: I am sure the marketing folks are licking their lips
18:05.46asmodaifinds it amazing that all these years of pushing the UI to look 3Dish they're now using 2D looks
18:06.22MegalonBUT 3D HAS LIKE 50% MORE DIMENSIONS
18:06.22quiescensi never liked the 3difying of everything ):
18:06.39quiescensi just want the most usable screen space o.o
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18:07.00asmodaiMegalon: hahaha, that actually is a scary marketing view :)
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18:09.00Funkeh`well this was a good time to get the dishes done
18:09.29Funkeh`I hate 3d :x
18:10.03Funkeh`well maybe not when it comes to art, but I do hate the whole marketing push around it these days
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18:11.08Funkeh`I hope the dev preview iso is released today
18:11.15Funkeh`...and public
18:11.20asmodaiDo note I am only talking about the appearance of the UI looking 3d. Not the idiotic 3d stuff for movies and games and such
18:11.37Funkeh`yeah I meant more the idiot movies and stuff when mentioning hate
18:12.27asmodaiI fully agree with that hate
18:12.46quiescensi don't like pointless ui 3d stuffs o.o
18:13.44quiescensthings that use effects to actually convey more info is okay
18:18.25Funkeh`wow nice @ updating the dev preview
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18:18.30Funkeh`now I really hope it's public
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18:18.58Funkeh`come on, he must be running upto a URL
18:18.59asmodaiFunkeh`: hahaha, so was I
18:19.11asmodaiGIMME ;)
18:19.30asmodaiThere we go
18:19.32Funkeh`YES
18:19.34Funkeh`YES YES
18:19.40Funkeh`dev.windows.com
18:19.53asmodaiSmart bastards.
18:20.09asmodaiBecause people will download, use it, play around with it
18:20.18asmodaiand they get a shit-ton of feedback sent back
18:20.27Funkeh`what time tonight is it happening?
18:20.34asmodai8
18:20.42asmodaiPDT I think it said?
18:20.46Funkeh`8 what? I need it in GMT
18:20.50Funkeh`can't remember
18:20.52asmodaiSo do I :)
18:21.28nebula169pst
18:21.36nebula169like 8.5 hours away
18:21.50asmodaiit's GMT-7
18:21.59Funkeh`3am? arg
18:22.06asmodaiSo what nebula169 said, 8.5 hours away.
18:22.11asmodaiFunkeh`: download tomorrow morning
18:22.29Funkeh`yeah, fiddling with things at 3am is never good
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18:22.48asmodai:)
18:23.17asmodaiFunkeh`: First thing to do, check the DX libraries ;)
18:23.40sbuhmm
18:23.51sbubut it will be msdn/technet only, right?
18:24.21asmodaiDoesn't look like it
18:25.22nebula169We will be releasing to the Microsoft.com downloads center.
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18:26.22pompyanyone can dld it?
18:26.43asmodaipompy: That was my take from it.
18:27.28Funkeh`yes
18:28.33pompysweet
18:29.59asmodaiFunkeh`: made a note for myself for when I wake up, haha
18:30.35Funkeh`I doubt I'll sleep tbh
18:30.42asmodaiWhy?
18:30.44Funkeh`im not doing anything tomorow and im too nerdy
18:30.48asmodaihahaha
18:30.58Funkeh`uni doesn't start until next week
18:31.03Funkeh`so they timed that good
18:31.10asmodaiI never let my sleep be taken from me ;)
18:34.54asmodaiFunkeh`: fora world-wide already erupting of the UI XD
18:35.17PrimerI scrolled back to find out what this is, but it's not clear
18:35.42Primerseems some people are getting all wet over some windows crap?
18:36.35Funkeh`http://www.buildwindows.com/
18:36.40durcynpeople are daft, Primer, this isn't new
18:36.40Funkeh`you can watch the entire thing
18:36.45Primerand btw, while windows 7 is an improvement over every version that preceded it, (dons flame retardant suit) it's still not nearly as configurable as X + openbox
18:37.11Primerfor one, there is STILL no true X mouse for windows 7
18:37.25asmodaiI am a long-term Unix user, but X really makes me cringe at times. So does Windows and Mac OS X, so that's not much to go by.
18:37.34Primer'To watch this content, please install Microsoft® Silverlight™"
18:37.37Primerno
18:37.55durcynit's delivered in HTML5 video if you set your user-agent to iPad
18:38.24durcynwhich is hilarious considering it's micrsoft
18:38.40Primerasmodai: I've been using an X desktop since 1996, and I've setup my desktop in such a way that I can't simulate in windows at all
18:38.51Primerand I'm so used to it, that the only thing I can use windows for is gaming
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18:40.12Primeri.e. real focus-follow-mouse sloppily, multiple virtual desktops, no task bar, etc
18:40.44Arrowmasteri thought you could configure focus-follow-mouse with tweakui on XP
18:41.17asmodaiArrowmaster: You can yea.
18:41.34PrimerArrowmaster: you can
18:41.41Primerbut there is no tweakui for windows 7
18:41.59Primeranyhow, I set my user agent to ipad but still nothing
18:42.03sbu"We just got corrected by the powers that be, you will not need a LiveID to download the Windows developer preview."
18:42.06sbu:O
18:42.09sbuso public public
18:42.27Funkeh`they never said it did
18:42.33Funkeh`at least on the livestream
18:42.41asmodaihttp://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/9000-mouse-hover-makes-window-active-enable.html
18:43.10Repo10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r27 / (2 files in 2 directories): add a success sound
18:43.21durcynPrimer:  Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B334b Safari/531.21.10
18:43.53Arrowmasterwebkit has 'like Gecko' in its UA?
18:44.01Primerdurcyn: I have the User Agent addon, which set it to: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B334b Safari/531.21.10
18:44.02asmodaiyea
18:44.20durcynit's a KHTML holdover isn't it?
18:44.48Primerbut I'm using Firefox 6 on Linux...and HTML5 video works just fine. Youtube, for example, works
18:44.52Primerwith HTML5 video
18:45.04durcynyoutube lets you set a cookie for that though, the MS crap is user-agent only
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18:45.29Primertypical
18:46.05Primeryeah, just a gray box with an X in the middle
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20:13.39Repo10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r29 RetardCheck.lua: add buff duration threshold
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20:32.02Repo10test-hg (experimental): 03prencher * r7 .pkgmeta: test
20:32.03Repowaaah
20:32.04Repotesting pkgmeta
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20:36.45asmodaiprencher: Spammer
20:36.56RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/testgit/. TestGit. Torhal (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
20:37.01RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/testsvn/. TestSVN. Torhal (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
20:40.25Torhal|workdips asmodai in napalm.
20:41.48Megaloncome on baby light my fire
20:44.02Ackisbans test* addons.
20:45.01prencherbans Ackis
20:45.13Ackispromise?
20:45.35nebula169test-hg testgit testsvn ... one of these things is not like the other!
20:45.39nebula169>.>
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20:47.31asmodaiTorhal|work: :(
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21:05.42Torhal|worklights a match, hands it to asmodai.
21:05.56Torhal|worknebula169: Doesn't matter. They're test thingamajigiggers.
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21:37.33Repo10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r30 RetardCheck.lua: tweak auto sounds
21:53.51Slayman@describe retardcheck
21:53.52RepoSlayman: http://www.wowace.com/addons/retardcheck/. RetardCheck. Checks your gear before bosses and yells at you if you're a retard
21:59.15Ackiswhy does everyone do that?
21:59.19Ackisare people offended by the name?
22:00.32Torhal|workAckis: Yep. pompy sent me like five different IMs saying "That shouldn't be approved with that name"
22:01.09Ackispompy doesn't count though
22:01.24AckisI just keep seeing people @describe it
22:01.43Torhal|workAckis: I think they're wondering if it will say "Check to see if you're retarded."
22:11.33koaschten|pador if it will mark the retards in your raid
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22:44.13Repo10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r31 RetardCheck.lua: add FM, DI, ES, mana gems, soul shards, fix shadow buffs
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23:04.02Repo10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r32 RetardCheck.lua: add talent spec check
23:04.33Ackis@describe retardcheck
23:04.35RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/retardcheck/. RetardCheck. Checks your gear before bosses and yells at you if you're a retard
23:04.50Ackisrenames it to torhalcheck
23:05.23Repo10retardcheck: 03oscarucb 041.0 beta 4 * r33 : Tagging as 1.0 beta 4
23:09.02Megalonretordhalcheck
23:14.21Torhal|workrenames Ackis to Ragequit.
23:14.43Ackisfuck you!
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23:14.57Torhal|workNOWAI!
23:18.48pompyLOL
23:27.28Primerhrmm, I might have to have our tank get that addon. Last time we pulled Majordomo, he was in holy hear
23:27.31Primergear
23:30.40Torhal|workHeh

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