| 00:11.44 | Funkeh` | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/ |
| 00:11.47 | Funkeh` | iso's are out |
| 00:12.29 | vithos | i think i'm doing something wrong with AceGUI. every time i ShowFrame(), it's calling the OnClick callback handler of my button. line 41 http://beta.pastee.com/9p35h |
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| 01:04.34 | starlon | lol |
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| 01:09.10 | Groktar | is so irritated |
| 01:09.27 | Groktar | blames starlon |
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| 01:38.49 | leech2k | Anyone on that could approve a new project? Been waiting a few days. |
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| 02:02.27 | starlon | I plugged AceTimer directly into LibScriptableRift's LibTimer and it killed performance for some reason. Really slow, which baffles me since AceTimer is brilliant. Is there anything I need to know about tuning this? I know HZ and Buckets exist. |
| 02:18.42 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:20.29 | starlon | -.o |
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| 02:26.04 | starlon | Ah it was my fault. I was creating NUMEROUS timers instead of just one. :) |
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| 07:47.46 | I_am_nobody | Hi, Everyone. I'm new to this |
| 07:48.57 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 07:50.27 | sbu | oh, finally some nice DL speed for win8 |
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| 07:58.01 | asmodai | sbu: yea |
| 07:58.05 | asmodai | sbu: seemed to pick up |
| 07:58.19 | sbu | was at 700kb/s, now 5mb/s |
| 07:59.18 | asmodai | So far it's not liking VMWare much |
| 07:59.57 | sbu | oh |
| 08:00.00 | sbu | damn |
| 08:00.11 | asmodai | get a crash |
| 08:00.22 | asmodai | http://tinkertry.com/windows8download/ |
| 08:00.35 | asmodai | that describes what I ran into. |
| 08:01.20 | sbu | no problems with virtualbox it says, good thing |
| 08:01.37 | mckenziemc1 | try walking instead |
| 08:10.18 | asmodai | At least on virtual box I can install it |
| 08:11.03 | sbu | heh |
| 08:11.09 | sbu | "windows failed to start" :p |
| 08:11.18 | sbu | oh |
| 08:11.21 | sbu | 64bit :D |
| 08:11.43 | sbu | okay, DLing 32bit then :| |
| 08:12.43 | asmodai | heh |
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| 08:35.03 | vithos | omg finally figured out why AceGUI was clicking the button on my frame every time it was created |
| 08:35.15 | vithos | have to use an anonymous function when specifying the callback handler |
| 08:35.32 | vithos | GAE.frame.button:SetCallback("OnClick", function() return GAE:TakeSnapshot() end) |
| 08:35.39 | vithos | i'm not sure i even want to know why that makes a difference |
| 08:39.55 | starlon | suspects Fisker. |
| 08:44.35 | sbu | hm crash again |
| 08:51.55 | asmodai | sbu: Got it working on Virtual Box |
| 08:52.11 | sbu | not for me, crashes at init |
| 08:52.18 | asmodai | odd |
| 08:52.28 | asmodai | sbu: I used the Windows 7 x64 profile |
| 08:52.56 | sbu | 64bit doesnt work for me, maybe wrong bios setting (virtualizer) |
| 08:53.04 | sbu | but i dont want to reboot now, so... *shrug* |
| 08:57.39 | asmodai | Did find this: |
| 08:57.46 | asmodai | Windows 8: d3d11_1sdklayers.dll, which in its properties reads: Direct3D 11.1 SDK layers |
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| 11:22.06 | harl | surprise |
| 11:22.28 | harl | or.. maybe not |
| 11:22.59 | quiescens | gasp |
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| 11:27.33 | harl | ôo |
| 11:28.05 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 12:27.07 | Funkeh` | asmodai, having fun? |
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| 12:45.43 | asmodai | Funkeh`: well that Windows key desktop - Metro UI switch annoys me after a while |
| 12:46.11 | asmodai | Funkeh`: did find DX11.1 hints :) |
| 12:46.21 | Funkeh` | so I win? :p |
| 12:46.29 | asmodai | Win with? |
| 12:46.34 | Funkeh` | my guess |
| 12:47.06 | Funkeh` | and yeah the desktop experience definately needs more polish. I want to run desktop apps from the start menu not immersive apps |
| 12:47.15 | asmodai | yeah, exactly |
| 12:50.49 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3554 / (14 files in 6 directories): - Various menu improvements |
| 12:50.50 | Repo | - some 4.3 prep |
| 12:52.28 | sbu | did they really "fix" bootup times? |
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| 12:53.59 | Funkeh` | sbu, I first installed it on a 5 year old laptop |
| 12:54.10 | Funkeh` | went from 63seconds to 26 |
| 12:54.20 | Funkeh` | from win7 |
| 12:55.30 | asmodai | booting seems quite fast. Some loading seems deferred until after the kernel has started, but that's ok |
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| 13:07.50 | sbu | Funkeh`: oh okay, could try my laptop then |
| 13:14.59 | quiescens | but is that comparing two clean installs with nothing else? |
| 13:17.04 | Funkeh` | I had recently wiped the laptop with win7, all it had was wow. Nothing starting that wouldn't normally start |
| 13:18.43 | quiescens | sure sure |
| 13:18.46 | quiescens | that's what they all say |
| 13:19.16 | Funkeh` | ok maybe some good ol' girl on girl |
| 13:19.22 | Funkeh` | but nothing more I swear |
| 13:19.49 | quiescens | everyone is always like, changing this made it faster, there's no other difference between the two i swear |
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| 13:50.43 | asmodai | Funkeh`: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/E/4/1E455D53-C382-4A39-BA73-55413F183333/Windows_Developer_Preview-Windows8_guide.pdf |
| 13:50.47 | asmodai | Funkeh`: Explicitly mentions 11.1 |
| 13:52.04 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 13:52.12 | Funkeh` | I finally figured out how to add my tiles |
| 13:52.19 | Funkeh` | type the name at the start menu for search |
| 13:52.26 | Funkeh` | then right click it |
| 13:52.48 | Funkeh` | unfortunately I copy pasted a lot of stuff over instead of installing so not much is listed |
| 13:53.08 | Funkeh` | they should add shortcut like behaviour |
| 13:53.34 | Funkeh` | and now I need to install a pdf reader, wasn't there suppsoed to be one built in? not yet anyway |
| 13:55.38 | Funkeh` | "immersive gaming experiences", right, how exciting |
| 13:57.55 | asmodai | heh |
| 13:58.48 | asmodai | Aaand |
| 13:58.50 | asmodai | here you go: |
| 13:58.52 | asmodai | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh404562%28v=VS.85%29.aspx |
| 13:58.58 | asmodai | DirectX 11.1 preliminary features. |
| 14:00.53 | Funkeh` | links in my client keep opening in immersive IE, die please |
| 14:01.06 | asmodai | lol |
| 14:01.15 | asmodai | I know what you mean |
| 14:01.40 | Funkeh` | that's quite a bit actually |
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| 16:22.24 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone 044.2.2.0 * r128 : Tagging as 4.2.2.0 |
| 16:24.44 | starlon | @describe surgeon-general |
| 16:24.46 | Repo | starlon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/surgeon-general/. SurgeonGeneral. SurgeonGeneral |
| 16:24.52 | starlon | >.< |
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| 17:06.38 | Megalon | We're pleased to announce that in most regions, PayPal will be our payment-service partner for the Diablo III auction house, allowing players who trade with real-world currency the ability to cash out the spoils of their battle-torn adventures via a PayPal account. |
| 17:06.51 | Megalon | so cubans won't be allowed to auction stuff? |
| 17:07.11 | Phelps | most regions......... |
| 17:07.21 | durcyn | not until they slip into the warm, loving embrace of corporate kleptocracy ^H^H^H^H^H capitalism |
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| 17:33.18 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if that means we have to pay the paypal service fee for every tranfer |
| 17:35.26 | nevcairiel | sending money with paypal costs the receiver |
| 17:35.34 | nevcairiel | so buying stuff on the AH won't have a fee |
| 17:35.40 | nevcairiel | if you try to earn money, there will be the fee. :p |
| 17:36.31 | Arrowmaster | right but i mean blizz is already going to take a cut of the money right? so will paypal be taking a cut too after blizz does or are they sharing blizz's cut |
| 17:37.39 | nevcairiel | Paypal will want to make money with that service, obviously |
| 17:39.47 | Arrowmaster | obviously, but im focusing on the point of do we have to remember that blizz takes x% and paypal takes y% which comes out to z% where z is some number with a lot of decimals, or will we just have to remember blizz takes x% and part of that x goes to blizz and part goes to paypal |
| 17:40.38 | durcyn | either way you spent cash for something in a video game, and are therefore first in line to be shot into the sun |
| 17:40.48 | asmodai | durcyn: *grin* |
| 17:41.02 | asmodai | durcyn: You must have WoW players who have Winged Guardians and Celestial Steeds? :) |
| 17:41.06 | asmodai | s/have/hate/ |
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| 17:41.38 | durcyn | asmodai: i cancelled my sub around the time activision showed up and started 'monetizing' blizzard |
| 17:41.44 | asmodai | heh |
| 17:41.57 | nevcairiel | who cares if they sell some extra toys for money |
| 17:42.05 | nevcairiel | as long as they keep gameplay things out of it |
| 17:42.40 | asmodai | nevcairiel: *nod* |
| 17:42.55 | durcyn | i've seen enough f2p mmos where the content is so tied up in microtransactions that you spend more than you would on a subscription to unlock it all |
| 17:43.14 | durcyn | and also, ugh at mmos in general anymore |
| 17:43.17 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Good thing most gamedevs loathe the idea of f2p for being stronger in-game over non-payers |
| 17:43.50 | nevcairiel | that idea is kinda neat from a business stand point though. Get some users adicted to the "simple" game, then get paid to for extras |
| 17:43.54 | nevcairiel | sounds like drugs. :P |
| 17:44.13 | Arrowmaster | isnt that the 'social games' business strat? |
| 17:44.31 | durcyn | maybe that's what bothers me about it, the zyngafication of wow |
| 17:45.24 | asmodai | That's an unfair comparison tbh |
| 17:45.50 | asmodai | Because Zynga *is* out to sell you a competitive advantage. |
| 17:45.53 | asmodai | Blizz is about fluff |
| 17:46.12 | asmodai | So far at least. |
| 17:46.37 | nevcairiel | I stopped playing WoW a while ago as well, came back for Cata launch hoping for the best, quit again shortly after. Its just the same old all over again, it lost its innovation to be fun for long-time players. I hope future MMOs can come up with some new exciting things. |
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| 17:47.12 | durcyn | not any time soon by any account, nev |
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| 17:47.28 | durcyn | hell, even the swtor class design so far is a 1:1 clone of wow |
| 17:47.35 | nevcairiel | i'll probably try swtor at least |
| 17:47.43 | Primer | What would you suggest? |
| 17:48.02 | durcyn | i'd suggest not playing any mmos ever again, personally |
| 17:48.08 | nevcairiel | also, i think the specialization/development of the classes in swtor is not really like WoW, at least if you can believe what they tell us |
| 17:48.09 | durcyn | you asked! |
| 17:48.09 | asmodai | nevcairiel: only thing swtor has going for it is the enormous amount of voice acting. |
| 17:48.26 | Primer | durcyn: except I like playing video games :( |
| 17:48.31 | asmodai | Haven't seen much new stuff. |
| 17:48.45 | nevcairiel | I do hope D3 will take up some months of my time, though. =) |
| 17:48.46 | asmodai | Some of the things in Firefall and WildStar looked more interesting. |
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| 17:48.52 | durcyn | Primer: i only said mmos! |
| 17:48.56 | asmodai | nevcairiel: You have my axe! |
| 17:49.03 | Primer | durcyn: I'm tired of FPS |
| 17:49.11 | nevcairiel | I should get together with some guys to play with on release, wonder who of my old guild is still alive |
| 17:49.18 | Primer | durcyn: and RTS doesn't appeal to me as much any more |
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| 17:50.33 | Primer | fires up WoW |
| 17:51.13 | nevcairiel | Did they ever say yet how partys in D3 would be like yet? |
| 17:51.30 | nevcairiel | one yet too much |
| 17:51.37 | durcyn | Primer: to each their own, but i've actually been enjoying tf2 lately, minus its own f2p and pay-for-items issues |
| 17:52.08 | nevcairiel | TF2 is actually kinda fun, because its actually meant to be fun, and not to be "pro" |
| 17:52.40 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 17:53.15 | Primer | I've played TF2 with some friends recently |
| 17:53.24 | Funkeh` | it's best played with friends imo |
| 17:54.32 | Primer | I've actually been enjoying RBGs in wow a lot |
| 17:54.42 | Primer | it's pretty competitive |
| 17:54.49 | nevcairiel | red blue greens? |
| 17:55.14 | Primer | rated battle grounds |
| 17:55.48 | Primer | unlike random bgs, people play to win |
| 17:56.25 | Primer | each team is in vent, and there's coordination, a raid comp |
| 17:56.35 | Primer | dedicated tanks for carrying flags |
| 17:56.39 | Primer | X number of healers, etc |
| 17:57.28 | Primer | In fact, RBGs have caused much of my realms's population to move to other realms, seeking better groups |
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| 18:26.24 | Repo | 10burnit: 03michaelspain * r13 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added iceblock tracking |
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| 18:34.31 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 18:42.59 | Repo | 10testsvn (experimental): 03prencher * r12 test.txt: testy testy test |
| 18:47.24 | Repo | 10testsvn (experimental): 03prencher 04testytag * r13 : testing tagging |
| 18:50.51 | Torhal|work | twitches at prencher. |
| 18:51.06 | prencher | two down, one to go |
| 18:51.11 | Primer | Is there some way to get the total current population of a realm? |
| 18:51.21 | Funkeh` | prencher, what are you doing? |
| 18:51.24 | Slayman | How Come Recount and Skada get totally different DPS? |
| 18:51.49 | Torhal|work | Funkeh`: Testing new repo hooks. |
| 18:51.50 | Slayman | 16500 DPS in Skada and 22000 in Recount |
| 18:51.50 | quiescens | magic |
| 18:52.07 | quiescens | testy test test |
| 18:52.10 | Torhal|work | Slayman: They both have different ideas on when combat started. |
| 18:52.12 | Torhal|work | etc |
| 18:52.19 | Torhal|work | hooks quiescens. |
| 18:52.23 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 18:59.52 | prencher | Funkeh`: rebuilding the hook system in prep for bigger things |
| 19:09.10 | Megalon | prencher: for bigger fish you mean |
| 19:09.11 | Megalon | hohoho |
| 19:12.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 19:18.42 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dgfish/. dG Fishin' Derby. leech (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 19:18.47 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/polaroide/. Polaroide. RafaelKimei (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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| 19:38.25 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r978 BRC/Karsh.lua: |
| 19:38.26 | Repo | Needed to check aura dose as well, but not send a message for every dose, just when it's applied. |
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| 19:39.52 | leech2k | Do I have to do something to initialize on a new git repo on wowace.com? |
| 19:40.52 | leech2k | nm found it in wiki |
| 19:46.12 | nevcairiel | you usually just push a repo into it and it should init itself. :) |
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| 19:47.17 | leech2k | Very new to git, but figured it was time to learn. |
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| 20:50.32 | Repo | 10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r34 RetardCheck.lua: add maxlevel, instanceonly, bgcheck, magewater |
| 20:53.13 | asmodai | That Diablo 3 calculator is funny |
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| 20:57.31 | asmodai | It's K-to-the-aelten |
| 20:57.48 | Megalon | kaelten, shmaelten |
| 21:05.11 | Kaelten | hi :) |
| 21:05.20 | asmodai | hullo |
| 21:05.27 | Kaelten | how goes? |
| 21:06.12 | asmodai | Pretty decent all in all. |
| 21:07.43 | asmodai | Dang, those runestones really switch abilities around |
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| 21:57.26 | Repo | 10retardcheck: 03oscarucb * r36 RetardCheck.lua: minor tweak |
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| 22:02.52 | Slayman | Rawr is basically telling me to get a 1.4 Speed Dagger |
| 22:02.56 | Slayman | for my Mainhand |
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| 22:08.59 | Slayman | I see it's not maintaining rogue very well |
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