| 00:19.41 | znf | So... anyone else having issues on their realms finding Warlocks? |
| 00:20.07 | znf | It's like they've all disappeared :-/ |
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| 00:30.19 | Gnarfoz | s/Warlocks/raiders/ |
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| 01:03.12 | znf | Gnarfoz, no, there's plenty of raiders |
| 01:03.19 | znf | we have like shitloads of mages in the guild |
| 01:03.20 | znf | hunters |
| 01:03.22 | znf | priests |
| 01:03.28 | znf | but no fuckin' warlock |
| 01:10.30 | steev_ | who wants a warlock |
| 01:10.45 | steev_ | more importantly, why |
| 01:12.51 | znf | me, being a shadow priest, wants Dark Intent >_< |
| 01:25.33 | steev_ | how do you send something across servers now? |
| 01:25.43 | steev_ | like all this boa stuff that is battle.net account bound |
| 01:26.21 | mckenziemc1 | can't yet |
| 01:26.49 | mckenziemc1 | 'cept via character transfers, of course |
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| 01:35.13 | steev_ | oh i thought they had fixed it already |
| 01:35.55 | mckenziemc | nope :( |
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| 02:13.03 | harl | charactr transfr iz more of teh monetary valuez to blizz |
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| 02:35.48 | harl | to be true though, their definition of "account" seems to be rather sloppy (as in not really defined) |
| 02:44.25 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 02:44.51 | mckenziemc | it's battle.net account, they just don't have a way to make the servers communicate adequately yet |
| 02:54.15 | quiescens | i remember when you would use warlocks to summon people |
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| 02:55.32 | quiescens | do they still do the soulstones thing where you end up using half your inventory |
| 02:56.09 | mckenziemc | no |
| 02:57.06 | quiescens | what did they do with the soulstone bags if they don't have soulstones any more? |
| 02:57.18 | mckenziemc | converted to regular bags i think |
| 02:57.37 | mckenziemc | max one per character and can't earn/make them anymore |
| 02:57.47 | mckenziemc | max one conversion per character* i thin |
| 02:57.48 | mckenziemc | k |
| 03:00.39 | kuyatzu | http://paste.xinu.at/07V/ <- if I comment out the RegisterEvent() the addon works and the print of OnEnable() appears in chatframe else not. |
| 03:02.27 | mckenziemc | well, you're supposed to put RegisterEvent inside OnEnable when using AceAddon, though that doesn't explain why it does nothing otherwise |
| 03:02.51 | Moolgar | hey, i made smal addon for ring of valor pillars . but just wondering if its possible for me to strip down the code little. so if anyone got time to read it on pasty ( its no hurry) ir would be awesome. http://pastebin.com/LBTHdn6u |
| 03:03.33 | mckenziemc | perhaps AceAddon is throwing an error about you calling it to early, and because of Blizzard's buggy error handler that likes to fail silently at startup, you're seeing nothing |
| 03:03.43 | mckenziemc | assuming you don't have bugsack etc |
| 03:04.36 | kuyatzu | no i dont :D but i need a good bugtracker and bugsack is one of those? |
| 03:04.50 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 03:05.03 | mckenziemc | personally i prefer swatter but bugsack's popular |
| 03:05.36 | kuyatzu | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.23 | mckenziemc | !api PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT |
| 03:08.24 | lua_bot | PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT: Fires when the player begins melee auto-attack mode (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT) |
| 03:09.09 | mckenziemc | ah, so it does exist but does something different than what it sounds like |
| 03:09.18 | mckenziemc | confused me for a sec |
| 03:10.30 | kuyatzu | yeah :D melee auto-atack,,, it should have a better name |
| 03:11.10 | mckenziemc | does it fire when you turn auto attack on or only when you're in melee range with it on |
| 03:11.26 | kuyatzu | dont know |
| 03:12.00 | kuyatzu | but nice database oO |
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| 03:23.47 | kuyatzu | mckenziemc: now it works :D what a stupid mistake |
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| 03:31.33 | kuyatzu | mckenziemc: only melee range |
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| 03:52.05 | mckenziemc | babblebabblebabble |
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| 04:17.07 | pompy | ~lart arith |
| 04:17.07 | purl | chops arith in half with a free AOL CD |
| 04:17.36 | mckenziemc | ouch |
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| 06:50.57 | Groktar | mails quiescens to finland |
| 06:54.38 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 06:59.29 | Groktar | i really wish pandaren was only available to one faction |
| 06:59.43 | Groktar | so i could be the other faction and kill every single stupid panda bear |
| 07:01.18 | quiescens | o.o |
| 07:01.21 | quiescens | so mean |
| 07:02.17 | quiescens | does that mean both pandas will have the same starting area? |
| 07:02.27 | Groktar | yeah |
| 07:02.33 | quiescens | will the two factions have a different language? |
| 07:02.42 | Groktar | they said you pick your faction at 15 or something |
| 07:02.50 | quiescens | so they can enforce their silly "you can't talk to the other faction" business |
| 07:03.19 | quiescens | because apparantly noone feels it might be useful to have learnt your enemy's languages |
| 07:04.58 | znf | You pick up your faction @ lvl10 |
| 07:05.59 | quiescens | and then you receive some magically induced amnesia to forget your natural language? |
| 07:06.56 | quiescens | i don't technically know that they still have that language barrier |
| 07:07.31 | mckenziemc | they do |
| 07:07.35 | quiescens | but in my day, opposing factions had their different languages, but the silly thing was that it was transmitted as is |
| 07:08.18 | mckenziemc | idk how the pandaren languange is going to show up in the other faction's chat logs, but blizz did say they're going to enforce the barrier |
| 07:08.34 | mckenziemc | also you can't friend another pandaren till you've both picked your factions |
| 07:08.37 | quiescens | so some creative use of network tools and a bit of filtering would let you see what the other people are saying (assuming they are talking in /say or /yell) |
| 07:09.53 | mckenziemc | idk if this is the same or not, but it's set up so that messages are broken up by word, each word maps to a nonsense word with the same number of letters (up to a limit) but there's only a few output words for each size |
| 07:10.06 | quiescens | yeah, but what i mean is |
| 07:10.12 | quiescens | the original text is actually sent to the client |
| 07:10.16 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 07:10.18 | mckenziemc | i see |
| 07:10.20 | quiescens | and the client makes it the gibberish |
| 07:10.27 | quiescens | so if you intercept the packets in between |
| 07:10.31 | quiescens | you can see what they actually typed |
| 07:11.00 | mckenziemc | of course intercepting packets is against ToU |
| 07:11.04 | quiescens | psh |
| 07:11.07 | mckenziemc | or do you mean addons could get to it |
| 07:11.12 | quiescens | there was no possible way they could know |
| 07:11.23 | mckenziemc | ugh |
| 07:11.31 | mckenziemc | i just tried to toggle autorun in battlefield 2 :( |
| 07:11.46 | mckenziemc | so i could type while moving |
| 07:12.47 | quiescens | it was really just funny when the alliance would realise i seemed to be able to understand them |
| 07:13.03 | quiescens | talking to each other in shattrath |
| 07:13.04 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:14.44 | Groktar | lol i healed myself for 451k on the eagle boss |
| 07:14.55 | Groktar | as a prot warrior |
| 07:14.59 | quiescens | i fought an eagle boss too! |
| 07:15.06 | quiescens | i think it might have been a different one |
| 07:15.07 | quiescens | ): |
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| 07:19.38 | Groktar | whoa i just got kicked from the group |
| 07:19.47 | quiescens | o no |
| 07:19.54 | quiescens | what did you do? |
| 07:19.55 | Groktar | i have no clue why |
| 07:19.58 | Groktar | idk |
| 07:20.10 | Groktar | it was on the freaking eagle boss |
| 07:20.29 | Groktar | i did 10k dps and needed almost no healing from the priest |
| 07:20.36 | quiescens | they probably decided your gear wasn't good enough anyway |
| 07:20.45 | quiescens | that's the way it works isn't it? |
| 07:20.45 | Groktar | maybe |
| 07:21.23 | quiescens | you need bt gear to run karazhan etc |
| 07:21.32 | Groktar | oh yeah, totally |
| 07:22.09 | znf | Hmmmm. |
| 07:22.29 | Groktar | i take it back, i did need healing from other people |
| 07:22.44 | znf | Anyone knows of /another/ bag addon other than: ArkInventory, Bagnon, AdiBags? |
| 07:22.50 | Groktar | healed myself for 447k and took 470k from the priest :D |
| 07:23.37 | znf | I was happy with AdiBags for 3 days, until I realised that I can't do a few things like skinning the bag, no gbank support, no custom filters (my items keep reordering by itself and I have trouble finding stuff 'cose they always move around) |
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| 07:24.04 | quiescens | i like the auto sorting ones |
| 07:24.09 | mckenziemc | TBag, like i said before :P |
| 07:24.24 | mckenziemc | though you probably wouldn't like it either, because of having to get used to where it puts things |
| 07:24.32 | mckenziemc | once you're used to it it's fine though |
| 07:24.38 | quiescens | i don't remember which one i used but i liked that an item could show up in more than one category |
| 07:24.41 | znf | Adibags does that, too |
| 07:24.57 | znf | I set the limits of collumns/rows, and max height |
| 07:25.15 | znf | but sometimes, moving (or destroying) a single item from the inventory reorders EVERYTHING |
| 07:25.31 | znf | This second my hearthstone is on the top row, the next one is somewhere in the middle |
| 07:25.32 | quiescens | oh destroying something in the one i had |
| 07:25.35 | quiescens | would leave a blank spot |
| 07:25.40 | quiescens | until you closed and reopened it |
| 07:26.25 | znf | wish ArkInventory wasn't this slow >_< |
| 07:26.52 | znf | With ArkInventory I always knew where my flasks were, my food, my potions, my gear |
| 07:27.10 | znf | even grey items had their tight little spot :-( |
| 07:27.44 | quiescens | ya, gray items were a category by itself for me toos |
| 07:28.09 | quiescens | and then there was bits for each equipment slot |
| 07:28.19 | quiescens | consumables, crafting stuffs |
| 07:28.24 | quiescens | quest itams |
| 07:28.25 | znf | I just had a "Soulbound" category for my gear |
| 07:28.29 | znf | yeah, same with quest items :-/ |
| 07:28.52 | quiescens | i had a durid that carried like, 4 sets of gear ): |
| 07:29.09 | znf | I would still use it, but it's so damn slow that it's freezing my WoW for like half a second each time I open it up |
| 07:29.52 | znf | mckenziemc, I looked at tbag (but didn't install it, yet) |
| 07:30.19 | znf | but I have to ask, can it be made not to look that horrible as in the screenshots on Curse? |
| 07:31.47 | znf | Also, judging by the comments section, someone never really update the whole color codes thingie in 4.2 |
| 07:32.14 | quiescens | i liked the mod i used, but i doubt it still exists |
| 07:33.17 | quiescens | i wonder how many addons have existed for more than 2 expansions |
| 07:33.23 | znf | I'll try TBag whenever I wake up, but I doubt I'll get what I wanted :( |
| 07:33.41 | quiescens | its okay, you can blame whoever suggested it |
| 07:34.43 | znf | heh |
| 07:34.43 | mckenziemc | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/tbag-shefki ? |
| 07:34.49 | znf | yeah, looking at that |
| 07:35.01 | znf | at the 1st look, it seems that everything's just piled up together on the screen o.O |
| 07:35.12 | mckenziemc | can't even check how old the picutres are right now, it's still loading >< |
| 07:35.22 | znf | it's a pic from BC |
| 07:35.58 | znf | but people complain about the argb codes in their item links (ffffffff[Volatile Life]) |
| 07:36.44 | znf | wtf, weird |
| 07:36.57 | znf | FuBar_* stuff still shows up on the addon page(s) @ Curse |
| 07:37.36 | mckenziemc | tbag doesn't support guild banks though btw |
| 07:37.43 | znf | ow :-( |
| 07:37.53 | znf | Y U NO SUPPORT GBANK? |
| 07:38.01 | quiescens | when did guild banks start o.o |
| 07:38.15 | znf | uh? |
| 07:38.17 | quiescens | we used to use a couple of characters as the guild bank |
| 07:38.30 | quiescens | which was probably technically against the tos |
| 07:38.34 | mckenziemc | when did you stop? |
| 07:38.49 | mckenziemc | i think it was in BC |
| 07:38.57 | mckenziemc | that guidl banks were introduced |
| 07:39.09 | quiescens | we had so many silly zg bijous and stuff on one of the characters |
| 07:39.15 | znf | Why was it against the TOS? o.O |
| 07:39.31 | quiescens | oh, because many of the officers had the details to the account that had the guild bank chars |
| 07:39.34 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:39.37 | znf | Ah, account sharing. |
| 07:39.39 | znf | Got it :P |
| 07:39.40 | znf | Blizzard-supported guild banks were introduced with patch 2.3 to help reduce player-created guild banks, which were prone to Terms of Use violations due to account sharing. |
| 07:40.03 | znf | (really, it took them /that/ long!?) |
| 07:40.08 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 07:40.34 | znf | Guess I started playing exactly in 2.3, because I can't remember the game without gbanks |
| 07:40.42 | znf | and I know I started playing before SWP hit |
| 07:41.40 | znf | man... I still can't find an addon that can replace FuBar_Garbage :-/ |
| 07:41.48 | quiescens | what does it do? |
| 07:42.14 | znf | it sells grey items (and whatever else you tell it to) at vendors, but also keeps a list of how much gold you made from selling greys |
| 07:42.20 | znf | across all chars |
| 07:42.39 | quiescens | oh i had some sort of silly cash flow type addon |
| 07:42.45 | znf | I have cash-flow, too |
| 07:42.52 | znf | But I want junk-only-cash-flow :P |
| 07:43.05 | quiescens | no like, it kept track of different types |
| 07:43.17 | znf | also the LDB feed displays your total junk worth, free bag slots, a list of junk items that you had in your inventory and so on |
| 07:43.22 | quiescens | like, you could find out how much was from auctions, how much was from vendoring, how much was from looting |
| 07:43.29 | znf | Cool |
| 07:43.39 | mckenziemc | most likely it doesn't work anymore |
| 07:43.46 | quiescens | most likely |
| 07:43.46 | mckenziemc | considering how long ago that was, quiescens :P |
| 07:43.53 | quiescens | but it was interesting at the time |
| 07:43.59 | znf | I'm trying to keep my local copy of FuBar_GarbageFu |
| 07:44.11 | znf | but it has so many limitations, and it's Ace2 :-/ |
| 07:44.37 | znf | it can only sell 1 item/0.5 seconds or something like that |
| 07:45.00 | znf | I messed with the code, lowering the delay, but it just won't do what I tell it to :P |
| 07:45.27 | mckenziemc | is it waiting for confirmation from the server in between each item? |
| 07:45.40 | nevcairiel | why does it even have a dealy? my junk seller just sells everything in one go |
| 07:45.51 | znf | Hmmm, dunno |
| 07:46.05 | nevcairiel | dealy=delay |
| 07:46.06 | znf | Let me paste you the function |
| 07:46.45 | znf | http://pastebin.com/gLqHh94A |
| 07:47.05 | mckenziemc | znf: in that pic of TBag, it has huge blocks because of teh amounts and types of items he has |
| 07:47.15 | nevcairiel | sounds stupid to do it like that |
| 07:47.21 | mckenziemc | in each of those bags (one's bank, one's bags) there are two huge blocks |
| 07:47.33 | znf | the -1 was edited by me, afaik (was 2, tried lowering it down never did anything else) |
| 07:47.38 | mckenziemc | and he either had it scaled up or a small screen for that picture |
| 07:47.57 | znf | nevcairiel, well, I don't know much about Lua/WoW API, but maybe that's the only way to figure out the sell price of the item(s)/stack? |
| 07:48.26 | nevcairiel | all items have their sell price available without even being at a vendor |
| 07:48.32 | nevcairiel | although thats a ratehr new feature |
| 07:48.47 | znf | GetSellPrice(), or something like that? |
| 07:49.20 | znf | This is the vendoring function: http://pastebin.com/uvfBMdzW |
| 07:49.21 | nevcairiel | that just happens when you use addons older then time itself |
| 07:49.22 | quiescens | couldn't it just get your money before selling |
| 07:49.24 | quiescens | and after selling |
| 07:49.38 | quiescens | unless you are trying to track how much you got for each type of item individually |
| 07:49.57 | znf | quiescens, probably, but like nevcairiel said, older than time itself :P |
| 07:50.13 | quiescens | on a random note |
| 07:50.18 | znf | I like keeping tracks of vendored items |
| 07:50.20 | quiescens | i remember the AQ opening stuff |
| 07:50.29 | znf | From 3.3.3 to 4.0.6 I made 35k gold vendoring greys |
| 07:50.39 | quiescens | which was dull and interesting at the same time |
| 07:50.51 | quiescens | the idea of everyone chipping in supplies for war or something |
| 07:50.52 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:51.09 | nevcairiel | i actually liked that idea |
| 07:51.14 | quiescens | yeah |
| 07:51.21 | quiescens | i did too |
| 07:51.23 | znf | I remember back in BC, I made like 2000g (a fortune back then) just vendoring stuff I got from random mbs |
| 07:51.28 | nevcairiel | too bad they never dared to do it again |
| 07:51.34 | quiescens | the idea of |
| 07:51.37 | quiescens | the whole server |
| 07:51.40 | quiescens | working towards the same cause |
| 07:51.50 | znf | The idea was nice, but the implementation didn't seem too well thought |
| 07:52.00 | znf | ie: players bitching because they missed the opening event by 1 second :) |
| 07:52.05 | znf | and someone else got it |
| 07:52.16 | quiescens | oh yeah, the actual opening itself |
| 07:52.19 | quiescens | was badly thought out |
| 07:52.34 | znf | (didn't experience it myself, just read about it) |
| 07:52.39 | quiescens | but the build up where you had all players on both factions working towards it was a nice touch |
| 07:52.53 | znf | I still remember those bloody vendors all over the towns |
| 07:53.00 | znf | that traded supplies for idontknowwhat |
| 07:53.07 | quiescens | I tried to get to AQ |
| 07:53.13 | quiescens | I got into the zone |
| 07:53.17 | quiescens | then the server crashed |
| 07:53.24 | quiescens | and I ended up back in the barrens |
| 07:53.24 | mckenziemc | hacker |
| 07:54.02 | znf | ha, I remember them saying that the 1st thing they learned when they launched BC was that "it was a bad idea to dump everyone on the server in the same zone, in the same time" |
| 07:54.22 | znf | (that's why they made 2 starting areas in WoTLK and Cataclysm) |
| 07:54.39 | znf | And they're going to do the one zone thingie again in MoP. |
| 07:55.05 | znf | I'll have to start a gambling fund on my realm, how much it takes for the server to crash, for the login servers to recover etc. |
| 07:55.38 | nevcairiel | BC wasnt that bad on my realm |
| 07:55.51 | nevcairiel | with the one zone |
| 07:56.04 | znf | They said it, not me :P |
| 07:56.23 | znf | Hmmm, next expansion will be the first I'll level on a PvP realm, I'm scared >_< |
| 07:56.39 | nevcairiel | in MoP the starting zone is much bigger and horde/alliance don't meet up until the middle of the zone, i would assume they thought of that point |
| 07:56.53 | mckenziemc | i'll have to find a PvE server to level on for next expansion |
| 07:57.09 | mckenziemc | i already hate world pvp and don't want more of it >< |
| 07:57.09 | quiescens | i feel i would have preferred pve |
| 07:57.16 | quiescens | i just played on pvp because everyone else was |
| 07:57.24 | znf | But fortunately my new realm is horde dominated, so I doubt I'll have issues |
| 07:57.35 | quiescens | i very rarely got killed but it was mostly because I just ended up being overly careful |
| 07:57.36 | znf | It's like 1:0.2 or something :D |
| 07:57.45 | quiescens | which affected levelling speed |
| 07:58.07 | znf | Took me 28 hours (non stop playing) to ding 85 this expansion |
| 07:58.12 | quiescens | pvp rarely actually meant, players fighting |
| 07:58.13 | znf | I kept waiting for people on quests and stuff |
| 07:58.13 | quiescens | so much as |
| 07:58.21 | quiescens | players getting murdered by people 40 levels higher than themselves |
| 07:58.32 | znf | This time I'll go as fast as I can without waiting for anyone >_< |
| 07:58.39 | znf | quiescens, indeed, that's what I hate about PvP players |
| 07:58.53 | znf | you mind your own bussiness at lvl40, then poof, someone lvl85 appears and one-shots you :-/ |
| 07:58.58 | znf | I don't know where the fun in that is |
| 07:59.17 | mckenziemc | the silly thing is they think they're getting revenge |
| 07:59.27 | znf | (not to mention that he'll probably show up on his flying mount and you never get to see him coming) |
| 07:59.50 | quiescens | the hypothetical idea of players in conflict is good in theory when both sides are likely equal enough that they both know killing the other person will was as much of your time as theirs |
| 08:00.04 | quiescens | just that in practice, fights were very rarely between people of similar levels |
| 08:00.21 | quiescens | s/was/waste/ |
| 08:00.23 | znf | Yeah, I remember alliance players killing everything in Crossroads on my old realm |
| 08:00.45 | quiescens | i don't really mind that either |
| 08:00.53 | quiescens | attacking the towns and stuff is shrugs |
| 08:01.02 | quiescens | makes reasonable sense |
| 08:01.15 | znf | When you're level 20 and you want to turn in a quest, but there's a "gang" of 5 lvl 70 killing everything in sight... not fun. |
| 08:01.23 | quiescens | its really just when its higher levels killing random lowbies while they are already fighting quest mobs somewhere |
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| 08:01.46 | quiescens | well, i'll compromise |
| 08:01.52 | quiescens | its okay, if its one of the fancy towns |
| 08:01.56 | quiescens | where the guards can put up a fight |
| 08:02.45 | quiescens | like the fancy cenarion guards that could hit for like 2k at the AQ cenarion outpost thingy |
| 08:02.47 | znf | yeah, but in the old days, starting places didn't have high level guards :D |
| 08:03.29 | znf | they had appropiate-level guards |
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| 08:03.38 | znf | so high-level players were one-shotting everything |
| 08:04.55 | nevcairiel | thats only for the lvl 1-10 area and some towns anyway, if you're out questing there are no guards |
| 08:05.27 | znf | haven't leveled a char in ages, so not sure how it is now |
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| 08:07.10 | znf | heh, I always find this pic representative: http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/450 |
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| 08:11.24 | quiescens | mm |
| 08:12.24 | quiescens | my first contact with alliance players, i was still in the 1-10 zone and i stealthed assuming they could kill me because it was a pvp area, completely unaware that they could see me from a mile off because i was so much lower levelled |
| 08:12.47 | quiescens | at least i didn't stupidly try to attack them and get myself flagged like a lot of people seemed to |
| 08:15.26 | nebula169 | ~framexml |
| 08:15.26 | purl | methinks framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
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| 14:08.55 | Kemayo | Oh, hey, the on-commit hook finally stopped happening so that old tag could get committed. |
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| 15:35.31 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 18:34.33 | Repo | - Fix aquatic and swimming mounts being IDed as flying |
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| 18:34.58 | Repo | - Finally fix item mounts |
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| 18:35.24 | Torhal | @project coconuts |
| 18:35.25 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/coconuts/. Coconuts. Game: WoW. LordFarlander (Manager/Author), Alexandria13 (Tester/Ticket Manager). Updated: 5 days ago. Tickets: 9/71 |
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| 23:23.28 | znf | mckenziemc, yeah, TBag doesn't suit me at all :-/ |
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| 23:50.03 | znf | Anyone knows of a decent addon that item counts (on other toons, bags, gbanks, banks) to tooltips (the way ArkInventory does it) |
| 23:50.06 | znf | ? |
| 23:50.19 | znf | Thought that Cumbuctor can do it, but I was wrong :-/ |
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