| 00:01.06 | znf | Even if you post big bright red blinking letters on the X-Perl page with a warning "DO NOT USE THIS ANYMORE!!!!", people will still install it and complain :-/ |
| 00:03.26 | quiescens | moo~ |
| 00:04.10 | MysticalOS | when curse redesigned the webpage, and it sorted mods by total downloads ever, instead of downloads last 30 days, it put cartographer in top 5 |
| 00:04.18 | znf | why the !@#! does this forum work like this |
| 00:04.37 | znf | if I switch between WYSIWYG and Markup... why doesn't it adjust it to the new formatting?! |
| 00:05.07 | MysticalOS | mods quickly fixed that tho |
| 00:05.52 | Yoshimo | how about letting people complain about broken stuff like xperl and dont act? one day or another they will use something else :P |
| 00:06.51 | MysticalOS | xperl is functinal, the code might be terrible but it's functional |
| 00:07.18 | Xuerian | I know that feel :( |
| 00:07.23 | Xuerian | XLoot is the same way :( |
| 00:07.35 | Xuerian | "Y U USE THIS?!", then I realize they don't see the demons |
| 00:07.52 | MysticalOS | i even fixed every possible situation div by 0 could occur when for whatever frigging reason UnitMaxHealth returned 0 |
| 00:07.53 | znf | I'd just stop working on it. |
| 00:08.03 | Mikk | i use xloot ! |
| 00:08.09 | znf | I use Xloot1 |
| 00:08.11 | Xuerian | Mikk: The original one? |
| 00:08.13 | Mikk | yes |
| 00:08.14 | Mikk | :D |
| 00:08.15 | MysticalOS | only to have them disable that in live, grr |
| 00:08.15 | znf | I mean, Xloot-1.0 |
| 00:08.18 | Xuerian | gawd |
| 00:08.19 | znf | or xloot1.0 |
| 00:08.23 | Xuerian | The shit that is in that addon |
| 00:08.24 | znf | which one is the damn name? >_< |
| 00:08.32 | Mikk | original xloot is earlier than 1.0 |
| 00:08.32 | Xuerian | lajlskjdf I WILL FIX THE NAME SOON |
| 00:08.44 | Xuerian | "XLoot" is really "XLoot 0.9" |
| 00:08.45 | znf | Mikk, it's version number is 0.9 |
| 00:08.52 | znf | But why do you use that? :P |
| 00:08.55 | Mikk | problem is |
| 00:08.56 | znf | It's ugly :D |
| 00:08.57 | Mikk | it keeps working |
| 00:09.06 | znf | Xuerian, break it intentionally. |
| 00:09.06 | znf | :> |
| 00:09.10 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 00:09.13 | Mikk | and i like the loot won frames popping up on my left |
| 00:09.16 | Xuerian | I.. I laughed out loud at th atone |
| 00:09.28 | Mikk | has svn access, fu |
| 00:09.33 | znf | Mikk, that's Xloot Monitor, isn't it? |
| 00:09.35 | Mikk | yes |
| 00:09.37 | znf | I like that too. |
| 00:09.41 | Xuerian | Mikk: It's funny because it's true |
| 00:09.54 | znf | and I'm urging Xuerian to port it to Xloot1.0-whatsitsname |
| 00:09.56 | Xuerian | You guys can use that with the new one you know. Granted that just INCLUDES the demons |
| 00:10.43 | znf | well, tbh, I didn't really mind the default loot frame, but you made Xloot1.0 use Masque skins, so I had to make them match my UI :D |
| 00:10.48 | haste | Xuerian: the classic perl frames are still maintained afaik |
| 00:10.52 | haste | should be older than x-perl |
| 00:10.55 | Xuerian | Sweet god. |
| 00:11.12 | znf | Uh, anyway, I was bored: http://i.imgur.com/51wYy.jpg |
| 00:11.12 | znf | :D |
| 00:11.39 | Xuerian | znf: Yeah, that's why I did it. It turned out to work really well. Also, if you use a separate skin you can register a proper skin with xloot now with XLootFrame:RegisterSkin(name, table) see table reference in xloot.lua |
| 00:12.00 | znf | that's from 5 days ago, changed a lot of stuff in it |
| 00:13.03 | Mikk | ugh so much scrolling combat text |
| 00:13.09 | Yoshimo | Ill still reccoment SUF to everyone, no matter how often you fix xperl |
| 00:13.17 | Xuerian | My ui used to resemble that |
| 00:13.27 | haste | my UI has been the same for.. years :D |
| 00:13.28 | Xuerian | Then I started acting like a old geezer "WHAT'S ALL THIS CRAP ON MY SCREEN' |
| 00:13.34 | Xuerian | "GET OFF MY LAWN" |
| 00:13.34 | JerichoHM | I just learned Mat from WoW Insider covered my addons in Addon Spotlight again! ask and ye shall receive |
| 00:13.53 | znf | Mikk, yeah, changed stuff now, made text smaller and no longer using arcs animations |
| 00:13.59 | Xuerian | JerichoHM: Grats :P I should do that when I finish fixing it up and name mien properly. |
| 00:14.30 | znf | Xuerian, well, there's nothing I can remove from my screen :P |
| 00:14.31 | JerichoHM | Xuerian: most def... Mat is a great guy and since the article went up I'v had over 200 downloads (about 24 hours lol) |
| 00:14.43 | znf | I mean, all that stuff makes me confortable playing the game :) |
| 00:14.52 | haste | january 2008 is the last time I made major changes to my UI :P |
| 00:15.24 | znf | I could probably remove Skada, and the incoming section of MSBT, but I want everything else :> |
| 00:15.27 | Xuerian | znf: damage meters. Make the combat text smaller. Make the top/bottom bars autofade. use Opie for 3/4 of your buttons and bindpad for the other 5th |
| 00:15.32 | haste | or no, april 2007 D: |
| 00:15.58 | Xuerian | haste: You know that butsu is what inspired me to re-write xloot into something almost as minimal (It managed to stay that way for a while too, I just never released it...) |
| 00:16.01 | znf | I don't want them autofading. It's such a small screen estate that I don't see the usefulness in hiding them. |
| 00:16.29 | Mikk | i autofade most everything i dont actually ned in combat |
| 00:16.46 | Mikk | but then my pc is shite |
| 00:16.47 | haste | Xuerian: You know, fixing the taint issues in XLoot for WoW 2.0 was what motivated me into writing Butsu :P |
| 00:16.58 | Xuerian | haste: Yeah, I remember that, lol |
| 00:17.47 | znf | Mikk, isn't MSBT yours? |
| 00:17.48 | haste | I was originally writing on something else and just thought.. this would look great as a loot frame |
| 00:17.51 | Mikk | no |
| 00:17.56 | znf | Oh. |
| 00:17.58 | haste | ~mikk |
| 00:17.58 | purl | [mikk] NOT the guy that wrote MSBT (that's Mikord). Mikk likes fiddling with central libraries and screaming about inefficient code. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 00:18.03 | Xuerian | ... lol |
| 00:18.21 | Mikk | been awhile since i did graphics now |
| 00:18.25 | Xuerian | haste: Then tekkub looked at my group frames and shit a brick, then shit out a sane clone |
| 00:18.27 | Mikk | other than facebook lulz |
| 00:18.33 | znf | I always thought it's "mikk"'s scrolling battle text, not mik's :P |
| 00:18.40 | znf | ~mikord |
| 00:18.56 | znf | purl, Mikord is the guy with MSBT. Don't confuse with Mikk. |
| 00:18.56 | purl | znf: okay |
| 00:19.07 | znf | ~mikord |
| 00:19.07 | purl | mikord is, like, the guy with MSBT. Don't confuse with Mikk. |
| 00:19.09 | haste | I've been thinking of resurrecting Maneki |
| 00:19.21 | haste | ~haste |
| 00:19.21 | purl | a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. Most people dont like him because he smells like cod. |
| 00:19.56 | znf | Xuerian, I thought about using OPie, then I've realised I don't really have a spare keybinding for it :-/ |
| 00:20.11 | Xuerian | Alt-E |
| 00:20.14 | mckenziemc | control alt delete |
| 00:20.21 | znf | Alt+F4 maybe? |
| 00:20.38 | Xuerian | Shift/Alt-Q/E is where most of my stuff is. I put all my travel stuff on Alt-` |
| 00:20.50 | znf | Is there a limit for buttons? |
| 00:21.32 | znf | how many can you have with it? |
| 00:21.40 | Mikk | none that i'm aware of |
| 00:21.42 | Xuerian | There is, but that covers (with ctrl-q/e, shift-c/g) everything I need as a resto shammy, except place/lift totems (for some reason), then I have 6 buttons (3 macros) as a actionbar |
| 00:21.45 | Xuerian | er |
| 00:21.50 | Xuerian | There's a PRACTICAL limit |
| 00:22.00 | znf | on a single ring? |
| 00:22.09 | Xuerian | Well, it gets to the point where it's hard to select stuff |
| 00:22.20 | znf | I'll look into it, next year or so |
| 00:22.26 | Xuerian | It just requires re-thinking how your actions flow |
| 00:22.34 | Xuerian | Sigh, I miss Sprocket. |
| 00:22.36 | Xuerian | That was cool. |
| 00:22.40 | znf | Sprocket? |
| 00:23.01 | Xuerian | That poor dev, came into the scene with a really cool, advanced addon. few months later, it's COMPLETELY broken by secureframes. yeah, OPie's inspiration |
| 00:23.09 | Xuerian | Except it could be clicked on, and had proper child rings |
| 00:23.13 | Torhal | MysticalOS: Foof? Mods? No, t'was I killed Cartographer and FuBar. |
| 00:23.16 | Xuerian | Worked like NWN's radial menu |
| 00:23.23 | Torhal | Xuerian: You still need a slug change? |
| 00:23.39 | Xuerian | Torhal: Nah, I pulled a tricky and made a new project with the proper slug then merged the old in. |
| 00:23.41 | znf | bribes Torhal into killing X-Perl with fire |
| 00:23.57 | Torhal | znf: Can't - it's actually being maintained. |
| 00:24.08 | Xuerian | znf: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5371-Sprocket.html |
| 00:24.09 | znf | slips cyanide into MysticalOS's milk |
| 00:24.15 | znf | Xuerian, was just looking at it now |
| 00:24.24 | Torhal | I don't know WHY it's being maintained, but hey. |
| 00:24.49 | Xuerian | znf: OPie has advanced past it, but it was still a great addon |
| 00:25.10 | znf | Why did they implement that secureframe thingie anywya? |
| 00:25.17 | znf | What did they stop with it? |
| 00:25.18 | Xuerian | So you couldn't bot in lua. |
| 00:25.22 | Torhal | So people would't bot. |
| 00:25.24 | Torhal | Yes, that. |
| 00:25.24 | Xuerian | Decursive and ehm |
| 00:25.31 | Xuerian | What was the healer one |
| 00:25.32 | Xuerian | Squishy |
| 00:25.33 | Xuerian | That was nice |
| 00:25.44 | znf | Ah. So you could run protected lua before? |
| 00:25.52 | Torhal | ??? |
| 00:25.58 | Xuerian | There WAS no protected lua |
| 00:26.03 | Xuerian | well, restricted functions |
| 00:26.06 | Xuerian | But not like now. |
| 00:26.06 | znf | that's what I mean, excuse my words |
| 00:26.08 | Torhal | The Burning Crusade introduced that. |
| 00:26.12 | Torhal | EVERY AddOn was broke. |
| 00:26.15 | Torhal | broken* |
| 00:26.17 | Xuerian | Sweet god it was hell |
| 00:26.25 | jnwhiteh | s/hell/awesome/ |
| 00:26.31 | nevcairiel | I always wished it would happen again |
| 00:26.31 | Xuerian | Oh the changes were great |
| 00:26.33 | jnwhiteh | i'm so glad shit had to be rewritten |
| 00:26.34 | znf | So I guess you could have macro'd a full rotation on a button? |
| 00:26.35 | Xuerian | THE TRANSITION WAS HELL |
| 00:26.38 | nevcairiel | removes so much old addon cruft |
| 00:26.39 | jnwhiteh | no it wasn't. |
| 00:26.45 | Xuerian | jnwhiteh: No one asked you :( |
| 00:26.47 | jnwhiteh | it affected only a minor number of addons |
| 00:26.47 | Mikk | znf: you could play the entire game with one button |
| 00:26.49 | jnwhiteh | Xuerian: I asked myself. |
| 00:26.53 | znf | hah, cool |
| 00:26.54 | MysticalOS | BC marked the begining of UIDropDown |
| 00:26.55 | Xuerian | jnwhiteh: No one important* |
| 00:26.58 | Mikk | hell before 1.6 you didnt even need button |
| 00:27.03 | JerichoHM | if I have a table that I've built return tableName will return the entirety correct? |
| 00:27.05 | jnwhiteh | Xuerian: what have you ever done? |
| 00:27.09 | jnwhiteh | oh, that's right. |
| 00:27.21 | Xuerian | jnwhiteh: Riled you, apparently :3 |
| 00:27.29 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 00:27.34 | jnwhiteh | you're overstating how bad it was |
| 00:27.36 | jnwhiteh | honestly |
| 00:27.44 | Torhal | changes Xuerian's name to Riley. |
| 00:27.48 | Xuerian | I'm kidding, anyway. Yes, I'm overstating it. But that's half the fun, and some of it was annoying. |
| 00:27.52 | jnwhiteh | 1. addons that were MAJORLY affected were either action bar addons, or addons that were designed to never exist |
| 00:28.19 | jnwhiteh | the changes were actually super minimal beyond that |
| 00:28.19 | jnwhiteh | the lua 5.0 to 5.1 change was worse |
| 00:28.28 | jnwhiteh | comparatively |
| 00:28.35 | nevcairiel | sadly the 2.0 version of the actionbar interface was kinda bad, took them until a patch later or so to get it in proper shape |
| 00:28.39 | Torhal | And I was exaggerrating as well. Not EVERY AddOn was broken, but if you didn't have the correct interface version WoW certainly made you think it was. |
| 00:28.51 | Xuerian | A better way to put it (you seem to be taking this all seriously) would be that addons which were broken accidentally, ex LootSlot, literally could not work through no fault of their own until the devs fixed the issues in question |
| 00:29.04 | nevcairiel | Torhal: i was always wishing they would do that for every expansion :/ |
| 00:29.24 | jnwhiteh | I do take it all seriously, I was here for all of it and was a huge part of it |
| 00:29.26 | Torhal | nevcairiel: I kinda do too. I also wish they'd just make the fucking interface version make SENSE. |
| 00:29.32 | jnwhiteh | I don't like history being rewritten :P |
| 00:29.41 | Xuerian | arches a brow. |
| 00:30.11 | nevcairiel | software development is never fire-and-forget, there is always maintenance, addons are no different |
| 00:30.11 | Xuerian | History depends on who is telling it. While I was exaggerating, the changes did not help me at all. They caused me, as a developer, problems. |
| 00:30.14 | Torhal | Maybe if theyver throw Lua 5.2 into the client... |
| 00:30.17 | nevcairiel | you're trying to hit a moving target here |
| 00:30.38 | znf | i always wondered that, why is the current interface version 40300 and not just plainly 430 or 4.3 ?! |
| 00:31.09 | Torhal | I'm assuming way back Then (™), they planned on changing it for every maintenance revision. |
| 00:31.10 | jnwhiteh | because |
| 00:31.12 | nevcairiel | 4.03.00 .. makes more sense? .p |
| 00:31.13 | jnwhiteh | we have sub versions |
| 00:31.15 | jnwhiteh | its always been this way |
| 00:31.26 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.30 | jnwhiteh | so you need the extra spot |
| 00:31.35 | MysticalOS | about all 4.x broke was this and improper arg usage and forewarn to use globals properly and transition out of depricated calls but they didn't actually break the old global calls right off. can't remember anything else. i eagerly await MoP :D |
| 00:31.37 | znf | nevcairiel, somewhat, but you could call it 4.3.0? |
| 00:31.54 | nevcairiel | znf: it needs to be a pure number, and it needs to support more then .9 |
| 00:31.58 | znf | or just 4.3? then 4.3.1 or 4.3.11 would be higher thus newer |
| 00:32.00 | jnwhiteh | znf: how do you handle 4.11 |
| 00:32.03 | jnwhiteh | you don't |
| 00:32.06 | jnwhiteh | hence why its the way it is =) |
| 00:32.08 | jnwhiteh | 41100 |
| 00:32.10 | jnwhiteh | that's 4.11 |
| 00:32.27 | znf | Ah. I see now. |
| 00:32.34 | jnwhiteh | I believe we've also had once instance of sub-versions |
| 00:32.38 | nevcairiel | granted, with their current release cycles its unlikely to hit a .11 again |
| 00:32.43 | jnwhiteh | tho I can't recall which one at the moment. |
| 00:32.43 | nevcairiel | but who knows |
| 00:32.51 | nevcairiel | it was in the 3.x times |
| 00:32.52 | jnwhiteh | indeed =) |
| 00:32.58 | jnwhiteh | there was an .11 in 1x |
| 00:33.01 | jnwhiteh | afaik |
| 00:33.04 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 00:33.04 | znf | Right, because 4.9 is technically higher than 4.11 :P |
| 00:33.07 | nevcairiel | 1.12 even |
| 00:33.21 | Xuerian | 4.9 isn't, but 4.90 is |
| 00:33.22 | nevcairiel | however back then the interface version was still different |
| 00:33.36 | znf | Xuerian, you know what I mean |
| 00:33.52 | znf | as a number. 4.9 is higher than 4.11 :) |
| 00:34.04 | Xuerian | Touche. |
| 00:34.05 | nevcairiel | thats why you use 4.09 and 4.11 |
| 00:34.37 | znf | hence 40300 :) |
| 00:34.45 | nevcairiel | although when it comes to readable version numbers, it goes back to being 4.9 and 4.11, but the interface number is machine readable, not human readable. :D |
| 00:35.27 | jnwhiteh | well, 4.9.0 |
| 00:35.28 | jnwhiteh | and 4.11.0 |
| 00:35.34 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 00:35.59 | nevcairiel | i was being lazy |
| 00:36.14 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 00:36.37 | *** part/#wowace znf (~ibm86@188.173.175.180) |
| 00:36.41 | *** join/#wowace znf (~ibm86@188.173.175.180) |
| 00:36.49 | znf | freakin' alt+w |
| 00:37.11 | znf | I mean ctrl+w |
| 00:37.11 | haste | I do ^W in firefox all the time while writing |
| 00:37.30 | znf | I was trying to ask Xuerian a question... |
| 00:37.39 | Xuerian | whut. |
| 00:37.39 | znf | and I have no idea how I typed ctrl+w in the middle of it |
| 00:38.07 | znf | Xuerian, because I'm too lazy to start WoW now, does OPie pop-up at mouse cursor? or it has static location? |
| 00:38.23 | Xuerian | IIRC it can be middle-of-screen or cursor. |
| 00:38.56 | Xuerian | znf: The nice feature is you can set the tap action (center action) for rings, so they can be keybinds AND rings |
| 00:39.42 | znf | I'll probably be able to remove at least 2 action bars from my screen with that |
| 00:48.01 | Mikk | znf: i recommend DropTheCheapestThing as replacement for FuBar_GarbageFu |
| 00:48.31 | nevcairiel | i recommend going to a vendor |
| 00:48.44 | Mikk | they both do vendoring too ;) |
| 00:48.54 | znf | I have jeeves + scrapbots + mailbox + vendor mammoth... |
| 00:49.00 | nevcairiel | with all these mobile vendors these days, doesnt everyone have access to one |
| 00:49.04 | Mikk | DropTheCheapestThing = FuBar_GarbageFu without the shit you never needed |
| 00:49.12 | znf | But I want to keep track of how much gold I made by vendoring the greenies |
| 00:49.18 | znf | erm, the greys |
| 00:49.22 | Mikk | no you dont |
| 00:49.24 | Mikk | you only think you do |
| 00:49.24 | nevcairiel | I have a 10 line script to sell grey items in my general utilities addon |
| 00:49.26 | JerichoHM | Well all.. I'm off here for the night probably. I'll see you all later... gotta go focus on gearing up toons and code |
| 00:49.27 | nevcairiel | never needed more! |
| 00:49.39 | znf | Mikk, I said I WANT not that I NEED :P |
| 00:50.11 | znf | FuBar_GarbageFu is really crappy and buggy and half-broken |
| 00:50.14 | Mikk | hypnotizes znf: you will feel veeeery relaaaaxed and then when you wake up, you will realize that you do not really care how much you've gained from vendoring things anymore |
| 00:50.32 | znf | Mikk, when I hover the mouse there and I see my total of 40k made from it.... |
| 00:50.36 | znf | I want it :> |
| 00:51.51 | znf | I made around 35k on the day 4.1 was released. I kept doing archaeology but I was only interested in Tol'Vir stuff. So when 4.1 hit, it found me with a few thousand night elf fragments and other races. |
| 00:52.17 | znf | So after I spent almost one hour to solve and vendor, I realised I made 35k from those |
| 00:52.38 | znf | Not to mention trinket, zin'rokh... |
| 00:53.47 | Yoshimo | too bad they are capped at 200 now |
| 00:54.01 | znf | yeah, that's why I had to do them, so I could continue doing archaeology :P |
| 00:54.17 | znf | I'm still pissed off at the fact that they didn't make the Vial of the Sands recipe BoA :-( |
| 00:54.21 | Yoshimo | did 4.3 add new stuff for archaeology ? im bored ;) |
| 00:54.26 | znf | Nope |
| 00:54.45 | Yoshimo | all i need left is the 2h sword and i fucking dont get the project^^ |
| 00:54.58 | znf | I got that... in Kalimdor :-/ |
| 00:55.01 | znf | I didn't even need it |
| 00:55.16 | znf | when I linked it in gchat, half my guild went emo about it |
| 00:55.30 | znf | didn't have a char to use it until 2 weeks ago when I dinged my DK to 85 |
| 00:56.02 | znf | Yet, the RNG gods were cruel to me for the Archaeology mount. |
| 00:56.06 | znf | 450 solves for it... |
| 00:56.15 | znf | the battletank, I mean |
| 00:56.17 | nevcairiel | the raptor? |
| 00:56.18 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 00:57.03 | Yoshimo | yea i might get the ds10 weapon for ret offspec every moment, and i still dont have the arch-weapon^^ |
| 00:57.16 | Yoshimo | just a memory by the time |
| 00:57.53 | znf | Yoshimo, sad part is... my DK got Gurthalak on his first DS run |
| 00:58.03 | znf | So I used the weapon for like 8 hours. |
| 00:58.26 | znf | Even weirder... I got 2xSouldrinker on the 2nd DS run. |
| 00:59.12 | Yoshimo | our dk tank got 9 items in one run and then decided hed pass on everything in the next 2 weeks since he considered himself "too lucky" :) |
| 00:59.39 | znf | well, to be honest, I got the +str trinket on 1st run, and got it on the 2nd run, too |
| 00:59.48 | znf | So I traded the trinket for a souldrinker :P |
| 00:59.53 | mckenziemc | watch, as soon as he starts rolling again he'll keep losing |
| 01:00.46 | znf | Most of the times I give the items away, unless a guildie is present :P |
| 01:01.11 | znf | Sometimes if people are jerks and if I win an item I just vendor it. |
| 01:02.14 | znf | (but most of the times I trade it to the highest DPS) |
| 01:02.31 | znf | unless he whined about something he shouldn't have whined :D |
| 01:02.45 | Stanzilla | you're a bad person |
| 01:03.07 | znf | Others are bad persons! |
| 01:03.12 | Stanzilla | that, too |
| 01:03.36 | znf | I always tell them that they should have kept their mouth shut. |
| 01:03.41 | Yoshimo | lfr raids are crazy people roll greed n stuff they cant use or where they already have better stuff. Id love to be lootmaster on lfr |
| 01:03.51 | Yoshimo | "your dps sucks, no item for you" |
| 01:04.02 | mckenziemc | you mean need? |
| 01:04.03 | Stanzilla | I did LFR with my bank alt today |
| 01:04.04 | Yoshimo | "coming in green stuff? forget about it" and so on |
| 01:04.06 | Stanzilla | he is in greens |
| 01:04.09 | Yoshimo | yea sure "need" |
| 01:04.09 | Stanzilla | and I one a shoulder token |
| 01:04.13 | Stanzilla | and people hated sooo hard |
| 01:04.26 | Stanzilla | one = won |
| 01:04.34 | znf | Yeah, I love it when they nerdrage about "omg, you poor dps no deserve item!!!!" |
| 01:04.54 | znf | That reminds me, since their latest hotfix, they introduced an AFK bug with the LFR queue. |
| 01:05.34 | znf | If you queue, go afk for some reasons, if the queue pops up and you don't click any button, you get ported in as you would have accepted |
| 01:06.01 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 01:06.18 | znf | Happened to me to get ported at Deathwing. |
| 01:06.29 | Stanzilla | yeah happened to me, too |
| 01:06.41 | Stanzilla | always thought it's intentional :D |
| 01:06.53 | znf | And this warlock dude was raging about how I was AFK and died and didn't accept ress |
| 01:07.15 | znf | I briefly explained that I was afk and for some reasons I got ported in. |
| 01:07.26 | znf | So they killed the boss, caster items dropped. I pressed need. |
| 01:07.36 | znf | Guess who was begging in whispers to give him the weapon? |
| 01:07.39 | haste | it isn't anything included in a hotfix |
| 01:07.44 | haste | its been there since 4.3 came |
| 01:07.57 | Nechckn_AFK | znf me? I will take free stuff! =) |
| 01:07.59 | znf | haste, only noticed it after their last batch of hotfixes :P |
| 01:08.28 | znf | Anyway, it wouldn't have been as bad if he wouldn't have told me to go fuck off two times and that I'm crap for doing that. |
| 01:09.09 | znf | I just traded the weapon to another guy who thanked me like 3 times after I gave it to him :P |
| 01:09.18 | znf | Politeness goes a really long way in LFR. |
| 01:11.35 | mckenziemc | says the jerk! |
| 01:11.36 | mckenziemc | :P |
| 01:13.05 | znf | If people are jerks, I'm more of a jerk :D |
| 01:14.28 | znf | Anyway, back to bed |
| 01:14.34 | znf | paused a movie in the middle of it |
| 01:14.48 | znf | just to grab a drink from the fridge and check out IRC... 2 hours ago |
| 01:14.59 | Stanzilla | znf: do you have 4 piece yet, btw? |
| 01:15.07 | znf | Stanzilla, I don't even have 1 piece |
| 01:15.10 | znf | oh wait, I have 1 piece LFR |
| 01:15.16 | Stanzilla | oh ok |
| 01:15.19 | Stanzilla | because it's funny |
| 01:15.23 | Stanzilla | I did some burst with it http://i.imgur.com/psAM4.png |
| 01:15.45 | znf | interesting burst |
| 01:16.00 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 01:16.01 | znf | bah, haven't raided in 2 weeks properly |
| 01:16.06 | znf | I'm raid-starved :-( |
| 01:16.15 | znf | stupid holidays and whoever invented them |
| 01:16.26 | mckenziemc | psh |
| 01:16.31 | mckenziemc | i haven't raided in years :( |
| 01:16.41 | znf | Stanzilla, are those disc priests dps-ing? |
| 01:16.49 | Stanzilla | znf: yes |
| 01:16.59 | znf | did they do it troughout the whole fight? |
| 01:17.06 | znf | ah, only after they've got the crystal |
| 01:17.07 | Stanzilla | have to stop nearing the ned |
| 01:17.20 | Stanzilla | nah, they do it from the beginning |
| 01:17.29 | znf | interesting, haven't really read anything about ultraxion |
| 01:17.33 | Stanzilla | then one of them stops, starts to heal and the other one a big later |
| 01:17.48 | znf | What crystal are they getting? |
| 01:17.51 | Stanzilla | red |
| 01:18.40 | znf | Interesting. Wouldn't Green be better? |
| 01:19.00 | Stanzilla | nah, green is for teh shaman |
| 01:19.31 | znf | I'm curious on how Attonement would work with green :P |
| 01:19.51 | haste | haha, I got a lockbox in my lockbox in my lockbox |
| 01:20.01 | znf | anyway, really going to bed now |
| 01:20.01 | haste | didn't even know that was possible |
| 01:20.09 | mckenziemc | yep it is |
| 01:20.17 | Stanzilla | znf: night! |
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| 01:29.27 | Xuerian | Mikk: So when I set it up like you suggested, it pulls the lib files properly then puts LibStub in the lib folder next to the files.. |
| 01:30.39 | Xuerian | The lib itself packages fine, with libstub where it should be. |
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| 01:40.38 | Ketho | wait when is Fisker's birthday? |
| 01:42.38 | mckenziemc | last year |
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| 01:53.29 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: So how do I get the packager to omit the tests folder in libstub? |
| 01:58.28 | mckenziemc | well |
| 01:58.49 | mckenziemc | technically the imported project's supposed to have a .pkgmeta that says to ignore those |
| 01:59.01 | mckenziemc | but they expect you to embed an actual copy of the main file |
| 01:59.16 | Xuerian | Maybe, but things like recount include it directly and get lua/toc no tests, i copy-paste the pgkmeta lines and get tests |
| 02:00.20 | mckenziemc | you can't specify what to ignore from a project you're importing in, afaik |
| 02:02.46 | mckenziemc | do they import it or have it in their repositories? |
| 02:04.07 | Xuerian | Most libs seem to include libstub.lua directly. I did that, now my issue with it being included twice is gone. http://pastebin.com/xAczbjJF = http://www.curseforge.com/media/files/564/861/XLoot1.0-embed-test4.zip however |
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| 02:30.34 | Ketho | Xuerian: The Recount pkgmeta seems to link to a different LibStub repo that doesn't have the tests folder -- svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/trunk/LibStub |
| 02:33.24 | Xuerian | Ketho: Huh. Didn't notice that. |
| 02:35.57 | quiescens | moo |
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| 03:42.11 | Torhal | Ketho: That isn't actually a LibStub repo, that's the Ace3 repo. |
| 03:42.17 | Torhal | Silly Recount. |
| 03:42.34 | Torhal | Ace3 hard-embeds it, which Elsia could have just done instead of being hacky. |
| 03:42.53 | Torhal | pokes Xuerian. |
| 03:42.59 | quiescens | hax |
| 03:43.21 | Xuerian | Torhal: Yeah what what |
| 03:43.26 | Torhal | ^^ |
| 03:43.39 | quiescens | run, Xuerian! |
| 03:43.47 | Xuerian | ahhhh! |
| 03:43.51 | Torhal | hard-embeds quiescens. |
| 03:43.52 | Xuerian | ghost wolf's away. |
| 03:43.58 | Xuerian | OH GOD GET THE DOCTOR |
| 03:44.19 | quiescens | dies. |
| 03:44.57 | Xuerian | Anyway, Torhal, I linked the ace3 one in my pkgmeta, should I just hard embed it? Really it seems like we should link the Libstub project and THAT shouldn't have anything that shouldn't be embedded (other than the toc) |
| 03:45.58 | Torhal | Xuerian: Packager doesn't work very logically, which is why if you don't want all that cruft you should just hard-embed. Maybe the logic will actually be, you know, logical once prencher has time to rewrite the packager. |
| 03:46.32 | Torhal | I mean, linking to the Ace3 repo WORKS…but it's kinda silly to link to a non-related repo when they're just Doing It Right. |
| 03:47.11 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 03:47.13 | Xuerian | Seems like they're Doing it The Only Way That Works, but w/e, I don't really care. |
| 03:47.25 | Xuerian | It works. |
| 03:47.29 | Xuerian | When he fixes it I'll fix it |
| 03:47.34 | Xuerian | Otherwise it ain't broke |
| 03:49.21 | Xuerian | Wait, why does the Ace3 libstub have a toc if it's embedded. =| |
| 03:49.42 | quiescens | magic |
| 03:49.49 | Xuerian | squints. |
| 03:49.51 | Xuerian | ... nevermind. |
| 03:54.53 | Ketho | so should we all just hard embed libstub if we don't want the tests folder? |
| 03:57.09 | Torhal | Yup. |
| 03:57.13 | Torhal | For now, anyway. |
| 03:57.30 | Torhal | Like I said, when the packager is re-written maybe the .pkgmeta will actually work for ignoring imported things. |
| 03:57.41 | Torhal | At least, that's my hope. |
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| 03:59.28 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 04:04.23 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 04:07.46 | JerichoHM | Hello again everyone. I'm hoping there is someone here cause I'm getting -.- at GameTooltip UIObject |
| 04:08.35 | JerichoHM | I'm setting up a tooltip scanner and I'm getting an error when calling iLvLrScanner:SetOwner(iLvLrFrame, "ANCHOR_NONE") |
| 04:08.43 | JerichoHM | Interface\AddOns\ilvlr\iLvLr.lua:260: attempt to index global 'iLvLrScanner' (a nil value) |
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| 04:09.25 | JerichoHM | I created a minimal xml file that has the required 1st lin <UI..... |
| 04:09.34 | JerichoHM | and the second line is <GameTooltip name="iLvLrScanner" frameStrata="TOOLTIP" hidden="true" parent="UIParent" inherits="GameTooltipTemplate"/> |
| 04:12.10 | JerichoHM | as I understand it I can't do a pure Lua solution so I've made the XML file to have the only thing I need it for |
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| 04:28.26 | znf | Hmmm |
| 04:28.31 | znf | *ponders into using a viewport addon* |
| 04:29.03 | Xuerian | You're just trying to scan the tooltip JerichoHM? |
| 04:29.24 | JerichoHM | yeah i'm trying to scan it for the gem socket textures |
| 04:29.45 | JerichoHM | i know how to do it (i think) but i can't seem to create and scan the darn thing |
| 04:31.10 | Xuerian | http://pastebin.com/HS16faPd |
| 04:35.10 | JerichoHM | went into a dungeon out of frustration lol |
| 04:35.38 | JerichoHM | so you do that... does it get the icons? |
| 04:35.53 | JerichoHM | i prefer pure Lua |
| 04:36.32 | znf | I don't understand, what are you trying to do? :P |
| 04:36.34 | Xuerian | I have no idea. Haven't tried. Easy enough to set it to show up when you mouseover a button |
| 04:36.47 | Xuerian | (so you could see, as I don't know what element of the tooltip the button is) |
| 04:36.56 | Xuerian | Wait, why do you want the icon? |
| 04:37.03 | Torhal | JerichoHM: The only time XML is REQUIRED is if you need to use templates |
| 04:37.15 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 04:37.23 | Xuerian | It annoys me sometimes that you can't do templates in lua =\ |
| 04:37.25 | JerichoHM | i want to compare the texture file to my table |
| 04:37.32 | Torhal | o.O |
| 04:37.36 | znf | you want to what? |
| 04:37.44 | Xuerian | Perhaps you should explain |
| 04:37.46 | JerichoHM | missing gem check |
| 04:37.47 | Xuerian | A bit more |
| 04:38.12 | Xuerian | Why not just check one of the other myriad of gear analysis addons and see how they do it. Surely one uses pure lua. |
| 04:38.20 | JerichoHM | Gear Score is my soure |
| 04:38.29 | JerichoHM | its tooltip scanning |
| 04:38.54 | znf | What is the ultimate goal? |
| 04:39.07 | pompy | we dont support Gear Score in here. |
| 04:39.28 | znf | nah, it's "ilvl" these days :P |
| 04:39.32 | Torhal | Oh wow. |
| 04:39.34 | Torhal | Gear Score. |
| 04:39.37 | Torhal | AWFUL code. |
| 04:39.43 | JerichoHM | The ultimate goal is to detect if there is a gem missing on the equipped item without |
| 04:39.47 | pompy | znf: the mod ;p |
| 04:39.47 | Xuerian | iirc that is notoriously bad, but hey. << typed while I went to try to find it |
| 04:39.57 | JerichoHM | <-- ilvLr is working to replace Gear score for me :) and apparently many others |
| 04:40.23 | Xuerian | tbh |
| 04:40.24 | znf | trolls the mmo-champ forums |
| 04:40.32 | pompy | reported |
| 04:40.33 | JerichoHM | GS basically Scans the tooltip for (example of course) "Interface\\ItemSocketingFrame\\UI-EmptySocket-Meta" |
| 04:40.35 | Xuerian | Someone should just write a wrapper to the bnet character sheets |
| 04:40.38 | Xuerian | They're pretty thorough now |
| 04:40.42 | JerichoHM | if that is there then there is a missing Gem |
| 04:41.07 | JerichoHM | It's also usable to scan a non-modified itemLink to see how many sockets are in that item |
| 04:41.29 | Torhal | For all we know, you're doing it the right way but failing due to declaring something in an XML file that isn't in scope in your Lua file. |
| 04:41.31 | Xuerian | JerichoHM: What you need is to find out what the names of the tooltip lines are that have the stuff you need to scan. You could brute force it I guess, GetChildren(), but that would be harsh... |
| 04:41.31 | JerichoHM | Also to compare to an equiped Belt (or if BS Glove and Wrist) to check for the bonus sockets |
| 04:42.46 | JerichoHM | I know Wowwiki isn't the most up to date but their coverage on GameTooltip says that CreateFrame('GameTooltip', XXXX, UIParent, 'GameTooltipTemplate') wouldn't have access to the icons |
| 04:43.21 | Xuerian | But gearscore would? post the relevant stuff from them in a temporary paste.. |
| 04:44.33 | JerichoHM | gear score creates the GameTooltip in XML.. i'm gonna try with your paste help Xuerian and i'll return a paste if it doesn't work |
| 04:44.51 | Xuerian | Sure. |
| 04:45.24 | Xuerian | I don't see why a CreateFrame()'d tip wouldn't work.. But I guess the API can be wonky sometimes |
| 04:45.55 | JerichoHM | again.. it could have been outdated WoWWiki crap |
| 04:46.21 | quiescens | o.o |
| 04:50.05 | JerichoHM | yeah... however the hell GS has done it... you apparently have to smoke some wierd shit to understand it cause this isn't working lol |
| 04:51.05 | Torhal | JerichoHM: Here; futz with this. Haven't touched it in almost two years. |
| 04:51.07 | Torhal | http://www.wowace.com/addons/geargauge/ |
| 04:52.14 | JerichoHM | here is my fetchGem() http://pastebin.com/dWHubeW2 |
| 04:53.08 | Xuerian | v in pairs emptyTextures if emptytextures v what |
| 04:53.44 | JerichoHM | forgot the texture == |
| 04:54.01 | Xuerian | yeahbut |
| 04:54.08 | Xuerian | emptyTextures is a numerical array |
| 04:54.10 | Xuerian | not a hash |
| 04:54.29 | JerichoHM | for K,V in pairs.. it will cycle through the array and return the value for the key |
| 04:54.41 | Xuerian | You're saying "For each value in array see if the value of the key that is the value we're iterating equals the texture" |
| 04:54.43 | JerichoHM | so if k = 1 then v = "Interface\\ItemSocketingFrame\\UI-EmptySocket-Meta" |
| 04:55.07 | Xuerian | for i, tex in pairs(emptyTextures) do if texture == tex then |
| 04:55.13 | Xuerian | ipairs* |
| 04:55.34 | JerichoHM | lawl.. derp |
| 04:55.40 | JerichoHM | winces for the punch |
| 04:55.54 | JerichoHM | if texture == v then <-- thats what i want |
| 04:55.57 | Xuerian | I herped my derp enough that I can't say anything else :p |
| 04:56.07 | JerichoHM | but I still don't have texture lol |
| 04:56.32 | JerichoHM | now let me show you what cracked out shit Gearscore has |
| 04:57.24 | JerichoHM | http://pastebin.com/eMSdEg0q |
| 04:57.54 | JerichoHM | focus on line 24 to 33 |
| 04:58.01 | Xuerian | You gotta understand |
| 04:58.07 | Xuerian | How wow's ui templates work |
| 04:58.22 | Xuerian | They don't use variables. They use variable NAMES, because that's how their xml template system works |
| 04:58.30 | JerichoHM | ok |
| 04:59.07 | Xuerian | Thus _G["TenTonHammerTooltipTexture"..i]:GetTexture() means translates to TenTonHammerTooltipTexture1:GetTexture(), ..2:GetTexture(), etc |
| 04:59.13 | Xuerian | 1-4 |
| 04:59.29 | JerichoHM | right |
| 05:00.11 | Xuerian | So why aren't you doing that? |
| 05:01.32 | JerichoHM | I want to do it without xml |
| 05:01.51 | Xuerian | When you create your tooltip (iLvLrScanner), use _G["iLvLrScannerTexture"..i] |
| 05:01.53 | Xuerian | er. |
| 05:02.16 | Xuerian | When you create your tooltip, with that template, the game adds all the children, which are referenced via $nameSubName, therefore become global variables of the same name |
| 05:02.27 | Xuerian | If you already get this I'm missing the point you're fumbling on |
| 05:02.43 | Xuerian | Or are you doing this and the textures don't exist? |
| 05:04.02 | JerichoHM | they should |
| 05:04.15 | JerichoHM | i'll be doing some tweaks in a sec |
| 05:04.23 | JerichoHM | taking out my anger on dungeons on my dk |
| 05:04.36 | Xuerian | Why the fuck I'm not just typing it out in pastebin instead of fumbling over explanations I have no idea don't worry about it |
| 05:05.10 | pompy | :O |
| 05:05.29 | JerichoHM | lol |
| 05:05.41 | JerichoHM | naw explaining does a lot more for me... |
| 05:05.53 | JerichoHM | My devotion to not using xml has made me a bit dumb on it |
| 05:07.08 | Xuerian | JerichoHM: http://pastebin.com/4Fz937WJ |
| 05:07.26 | Xuerian | Your best friend is this: |
| 05:07.28 | Xuerian | ~framexml |
| 05:07.28 | purl | framexml is probably Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 05:07.48 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:07.49 | Xuerian | Get a copy of the framexml and open up the relevant template. it REALLY helps to have a editor that can search a directory for a string |
| 05:08.07 | Xuerian | if you're looking for a template, search for: name="TemplateName", btw |
| 05:08.32 | Xuerian | Then you can see all the elements added to your frame |
| 05:09.06 | JerichoHM | Notepad++ here :) |
| 05:09.12 | Xuerian | CtrlShiftF |
| 05:09.37 | Xuerian | I also suggest you work with split views |
| 05:09.50 | znf | Split Views ftw! |
| 05:09.51 | Xuerian | (i use L/R not T/B) |
| 05:09.56 | JerichoHM | same |
| 05:10.04 | JerichoHM | :) |
| 05:10.08 | Xuerian | Well then. There you go. |
| 05:10.35 | Xuerian | I've got about 8 of the framexml files open right now myself, from where I was working with input elements |
| 05:10.42 | JerichoHM | right |
| 05:13.58 | JerichoHM | ok.. this is where I was when I first came in |
| 05:14.13 | JerichoHM | after I did the Lua version of Creating the tooltip |
| 05:14.23 | JerichoHM | local texture = _G["iLvLrFrame"..i]:GetTexture() |
| 05:14.37 | JerichoHM | throws the error: Interface\AddOns\ilvlr\iLvLr.lua:261: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 05:14.43 | Xuerian | You're missing the Texture on the end. |
| 05:15.08 | Xuerian | _G is simply a reference to the global scope and since table.variable is simply sugar for table["variable"] well you get where I'm going |
| 05:15.52 | quiescens | over there -> |
| 05:16.05 | Torhal | douses quiescens with quicklime. |
| 05:16.11 | quiescens | dies. |
| 05:16.23 | JerichoHM | you say i'm missing the texture on the end... what do you mean by that? |
| 05:17.20 | Xuerian | Well, if your frame is iLvLrFrame, and the template ADDS $nameTexture |
| 05:17.23 | Xuerian | 1-4 |
| 05:17.52 | Xuerian | _G["iLvLrFrameTexture"..i]. |
| 05:18.36 | JerichoHM | ohhh |
| 05:19.10 | JerichoHM | man... Once I get this release out i'm gonna have to break from code for a few days ol |
| 05:20.06 | JerichoHM | Xuerian thanks for being patient with me... the wall got soft from my head banging on it so much |
| 05:20.16 | Xuerian | in php it would be ${"iLvLrFrameTexture".$i}->GetTexture(), at least i think, I always forget what concatenation is |
| 05:20.43 | Xuerian | JerichoHM: No sweat, gotta build up my derp karma |
| 05:21.13 | JerichoHM | local texture = _G["iLvLrFrameTexture"..i]:GetTexture() |
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| 05:21.20 | JerichoHM | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.24 | JerichoHM | same error |
| 05:21.32 | Xuerian | pastey again |
| 05:22.45 | JerichoHM | http://pastebin.com/JmTRep4K |
| 05:23.00 | JerichoHM | error is line 26 in the paste |
| 05:23.33 | JerichoHM | i'm thinking i don't need the local ttScannner bits |
| 05:23.48 | Xuerian | local references are a bit faster |
| 05:23.52 | Xuerian | cheaper, whatever. |
| 05:24.02 | Xuerian | Well |
| 05:24.04 | Xuerian | hm |
| 05:24.34 | Xuerian | do print(iLvLrFrameTexture1) |
| 05:24.42 | Xuerian | */script |
| 05:25.54 | JerichoHM | nil |
| 05:26.03 | quiescens | gasp |
| 05:26.19 | Xuerian | HERPFLKJSLDFJ |
| 05:26.22 | Xuerian | DERPA |
| 05:26.22 | Xuerian | FLERP |
| 05:26.23 | Xuerian | ALL THE DERP |
| 05:26.24 | Xuerian | iLvLrScanner. |
| 05:26.40 | Xuerian | GO FORTH AND USE THE CORRECT VARIABLE NAME |
| 05:26.41 | JerichoHM | ZOMG |
| 05:28.06 | JerichoHM | ok the addon loads.. thats a good sign... that part doesn't work but the rest does so it's logical now |
| 05:28.28 | quiescens | yay |
| 05:28.46 | znf | Xuerian, so, do you have a SVN? :P |
| 05:29.50 | Xuerian | znf: A: I don't use SVN. B: I use local git repositories. C: 1.0 and the libs are now on curseforge git repos |
| 05:30.03 | znf | why curseforge? *cry* |
| 05:31.39 | znf | kidding :) |
| 05:33.54 | Xuerian | znf: Because Ace(2) was the initial reason for me rewriting my addons in the first place. i irrationally blamed them for my lack of understanding of the horrors my nest of messy code wrought |
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| 05:39.06 | JerichoHM | wow that works great now.. just to update what once was boolean to the new system |
| 05:40.25 | Xuerian | :p |
| 05:40.41 | JerichoHM | btw Xuerian I didn't put 2 and 2 together earlier, but I love XLoot :) |
| 05:45.41 | Xuerian | JerichoHM: lol thanks, glad you like it |
| 05:46.45 | Torhal | I stopped using XLoot when it became self-aware, claimed that it was a Grue, and attempted to eat me. |
| 05:46.54 | Xuerian | Torhal: Doesn't surprise me. |
| 05:48.57 | JerichoHM | I was sad when I wasn't able to use XLoot but I'm glad to see it up and running again |
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| 06:38.30 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 07:30.13 | mckenziemc | sterilizes quiescens. |
| 07:30.27 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 07:50.27 | Xuerian | Anyone have any idea why LootButton_OnClick() will rarely cause LootSlot() to error due getting passed a invalid slot when not called from the default loot frame? I've had this bug happening for years, and haven't been able to fix it. There's no way I can verify button.slot before click that WON'T error, unless there's some way I can do the php equivalent of @call() |
| 07:51.55 | Xuerian | Same thing with trying to fill loot slots sometimes. I think it's when someone loots a free item right after someone else did. |
| 07:53.37 | Humbedooh | well there'd always be the option of catching the error and hiding it, wouldn't there? |
| 07:54.05 | mckenziemc | not sure if you can do that reliably |
| 07:54.35 | Humbedooh | you could try redirecting the error and see if it'd work :> |
| 07:54.38 | mckenziemc | i was thinking about doing that for a different scenario, but you'd have to make sure 3rd-party error handlers don't undo your hook |
| 07:55.01 | Humbedooh | true, but worth a shot at least |
| 07:55.19 | Humbedooh | hands quiescens a spliff |
| 07:57.48 | Xuerian | Erguh |
| 07:57.57 | Xuerian | but I don't WANT to have to resort to dirty hackery :( |
| 07:58.49 | Xuerian | Wonder if there's a function that operates on loot slots that doesn't throw a exception when passed a invalid slot.. |
| 08:01.58 | mckenziemc | can't you xpcall? |
| 08:04.12 | mckenziemc | or pcall |
| 08:04.52 | mckenziemc | anyway goodnight |
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| 08:47.19 | Humbedooh | throws a disgruntled Rackspace employee at quiescens |
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| 08:48.09 | Xuerian | How does pcall work anyway.. *to the documentation* |
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| 08:48.48 | Xuerian | Oh yeah. That'd work. |
| 08:49.00 | quiescens | dies. |
| 08:49.15 | Xuerian | quiescens: You know, I'd like the contact information for your clone bank |
| 08:49.19 | Xuerian | They seem to do a excellent job |
| 08:49.27 | Humbedooh | there is no clone bank! |
| 08:49.58 | Humbedooh | and it\s certainly not run by Swiss gnomes |
| 08:50.15 | Xuerian | Swiss /scientist/ gnomes. |
| 08:53.40 | Humbedooh | nggh stupid Rackspace |
| 08:53.51 | Humbedooh | can't even get DNS records to work :< |
| 08:54.05 | Humbedooh | and Bob, the tech guy, is just stupid |
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| 09:06.41 | Torhal | blames Humbedooh for Xuerian's years-old bug. |
| 09:06.57 | Humbedooh | I'm gonna kill Bob soon....worst support ever |
| 09:07.27 | Humbedooh | "have you set up reverse DNS?"....what the f.. does that have to do with a nameserver not handing out DNS records.. |
| 09:07.54 | Torhal | Just garrote him. |
| 09:07.56 | Torhal | All good. |
| 09:08.05 | quiescens | poor bob the tech guy |
| 09:08.11 | Humbedooh | bob the tool |
| 09:08.56 | quiescens | so mean o.o |
| 09:09.13 | Humbedooh | I just want the stuff I pay for to work |
| 09:09.56 | quiescens | its not bob the tech guy's fault |
| 09:11.44 | Humbedooh | no but he's f.. slow |
| 09:12.09 | quiescens | there there |
| 09:12.10 | Humbedooh | "Are you looking up the IP or the domain?"....WHY THE F... would I look up an IP.. |
| 09:13.01 | Humbedooh | I just had to close that chat window now... :< |
| 09:13.03 | quiescens | maybe you are trying to find the name that is being used for an ip you know |
| 09:13.53 | Humbedooh | I told him from the start, I'm looking up the IP of the domain name :p |
| 09:14.11 | Humbedooh | me: Gief A record for domain, server: No such domain! |
| 09:14.14 | quiescens | sure sure |
| 09:14.55 | quiescens | likely story |
| 09:15.17 | Humbedooh | slaps quiescens around a bit with a large Bob |
| 09:15.20 | quiescens | dies. |
| 09:16.57 | Humbedooh | celebrates |
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| 10:01.47 | quiescens | ): |
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| 10:43.41 | starlon | turn that frown upside down |
| 10:44.48 | quiescens | :( |
| 10:45.24 | starlon | :( |
| 10:45.40 | starlon | broke my heart |
| 10:47.35 | Mikk | Xuerian: I blame your curseforge-ness for not using update XLoot. I don't see the commits here. |
| 10:47.52 | Xuerian | Mikk: I turned off commit messages intentionally |
| 10:48.03 | quiescens | gasp |
| 10:48.07 | Mikk | blinks |
| 10:48.07 | Xuerian | I had about 10 messages from me dicking around with it |
| 10:48.11 | Xuerian | I'll be turning them back on now |
| 10:48.30 | Xuerian | Not that -i- can see them, I have the freaking bot blocked so I can read chat |
| 10:48.53 | starlon | poor bot |
| 10:49.14 | quiescens | there is no bot |
| 10:49.18 | quiescens | they murdered it ): |
| 10:49.24 | starlon | ~hug |
| 10:49.24 | purl | ACTION hugs starlon |
| 10:49.34 | quiescens | pats purl |
| 10:51.04 | starlon | Why did they murder Repo? |
| 10:51.41 | quiescens | because they are terrible terrible persons |
| 10:52.20 | Xuerian | There, happy? |
| 10:52.54 | starlon | Happy? Our friend was murdered! |
| 10:53.12 | Xuerian | A new Repo will be rezzed shortly. |
| 10:53.22 | starlon | Oh |
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| 10:54.27 | starlon | Anyone know how many subscriptions WoW has lost since the expansion? |
| 10:54.35 | starlon | Has Blizzard said? |
| 10:55.41 | starlon | Oh google :D |
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| 10:56.24 | Xuerian | (did the commit even show up? I can't see them :( ) |
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| 11:30.05 | Xuerian | > Open email, comment notitifcation. "Amazing Addon, Thank you for making WoW look more modern. Now I need to find someone who can skin the bags the same way :)" |
| 11:30.11 | Xuerian | > It's on the old, shitty XLoot |
| 11:30.20 | Xuerian | :( MFW |
| 11:32.10 | ThiefMaster | heh, even the "old shitty xloot" still works fine |
| 11:32.23 | ThiefMaster | and is one of the addons i'd rather fix myself than not using after a breaking update |
| 11:32.35 | ThiefMaster | even though there is one this i really hate: not being able to lock the xloot monitor frames |
| 11:32.43 | Xuerian | ThiefMaster: It does. And I shouldn't make like I don't really appreciate the compliments. But I'm going to programmer hell for the code in that thing. |
| 11:33.29 | ThiefMaster | who doesn't for year-old code ;) |
| 11:33.38 | Xuerian | (I feel a "Old and busted, new hotness" comment is necessary here) |
| 11:34.01 | Xuerian | ThiefMaster: More like .. four? year old code. |
| 11:35.01 | Xuerian | Duly noted about locking frames though, I'll try to keep it in mind for the rewrite. Also, you should try the new version anyway (You can use the support addon for the plugins), see if I got the "legacy" skin to a acceptable point. |
| 11:35.44 | Mikk | Funny. Baggins looks like that by default. And I'm going to change the default to blizzard style. |
| 11:36.14 | Xuerian | Mikk: The person might not know about Baggins, I'll suggest it in my reply :p |
| 11:36.26 | Mikk | I'm sure he'll love its current Ace2-ness too |
| 11:36.50 | Xuerian | :p |
| 11:40.46 | ThiefMaster | in the new version, are the various extensions already support? |
| 11:40.52 | ThiefMaster | especially -monitor and -group |
| 11:41.58 | Xuerian | It can be used with them, though you need a supplementary addon to provide the libs that the old one did until they are re-written. ( http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/xloot-plugin-dummy.aspx , continuing my theme of badly chosen names) |
| 11:45.05 | Xuerian | Really, what I did today is pretty much the last of what I needed to get done before I started on said re-writing, so I hope to start on them soon. Not sure which one of the plugins will be finished first, though - and History will be bumped into its own project. |
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| 12:03.53 | Mikk | ponders the benefits of rewriting xlootmonitor as a WA trigger |
| 12:08.33 | Stanzilla | I wonder if WA is a candidate for screaming about inefficient code-mikk |
| 12:08.53 | Mikk | not as much as PowerAuras so i'm happy |
| 12:09.10 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 12:09.16 | Mikk | i remember statting powa in ToC.. it ate more than 50% of my total addon cpu |
| 12:09.20 | Mikk | then i deleted it |
| 12:09.47 | Stanzilla | I deleted it when I saw the config ui |
| 12:10.01 | Mikk | it only caused mild wrist slashing for me |
| 12:10.36 | Mikk | what i _really_ love about WA is the trigger sharing mechanism |
| 12:10.43 | Mikk | it's been a big help in learning encounters |
| 12:11.16 | Mikk | sure, it's all in bossmods too, but everyone is blind to bossmods warnings and bars by now |
| 12:11.29 | Mikk | big OMG MOVE IT across the screen works |
| 12:14.30 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 12:14.55 | Stanzilla | though it still errors sometimes for me |
| 12:17.36 | Mikk | oh? |
| 12:17.41 | Mikk | i never had WA error on me |
| 12:18.18 | Stanzilla | it sometimes does when importing stuff shared through chat links |
| 12:18.34 | Mikk | hmkay |
| 12:18.50 | Mikk | version mismatch maybe? |
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| 12:19.47 | Stanzilla | I thought maybe something related to localization |
| 12:19.59 | Stanzilla | because I use the enGB client and some guildies have deDE |
| 12:20.06 | Mikk | that would make sense |
| 12:20.11 | Mikk | i only have enGB in my guild |
| 12:20.51 | Stanzilla | nice, even found one in my bugsack |
| 12:20.57 | Stanzilla | http://pastebin.com/n1UubhzQ |
| 12:20.58 | Stanzilla | there |
| 12:21.40 | Mikk | ShowDisplayTooltip would be a clue |
| 12:22.34 | Xuerian|zzz | WA? |
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| 12:22.45 | Stanzilla | weakauras |
| 12:23.32 | Xuerian|zzz | So, what, "Power Auras, the non-hernia version"? |
| 12:25.15 | Mikk | yes |
| 12:25.20 | Xuerian|zzz | Ahh. |
| 12:25.22 | Mikk | so much better than powa in all ways |
| 12:25.35 | Mikk | _all_ |
| 12:25.39 | Xuerian|zzz | Complete enough to replace it already, then |
| 12:25.59 | Mikk | more than complete |
| 12:26.05 | Mikk | weakauras >>>> powerauras |
| 12:26.11 | Xuerian|zzz | Cool. I was getting ready to set up powa again |
| 12:26.15 | Xuerian|zzz | I'll do that instead. |
| 12:26.16 | Mikk | i'm not being funny here. powerauras has exactly nothing going for it |
| 12:26.24 | Stanzilla | it has some (for me) important (read: cool) stuff missing but it's already way better than Powa |
| 12:26.44 | Xuerian|zzz | Mikk: It's ok. I understand why you don't like it :p |
| 12:27.02 | Mikk | Stanzilla: interesting. please explain. |
| 12:27.14 | Mikk | because i'm missing nothing functionality wise |
| 12:27.27 | Stanzilla | Mikk: I want to chain triggers with "or" and "and" |
| 12:27.36 | Stanzilla | it only does "all" and "any" atm |
| 12:27.56 | Mikk | this is actually true. but i haven't found the need myself. |
| 12:29.20 | Stanzilla | could use it for my warrior |
| 12:29.38 | Stanzilla | WA has this really cool feature to light up your action buttons instead of displaying an icon |
| 12:29.55 | Stanzilla | and for Heroic Strike you could built a super cool aura for when to push it |
| 12:31.14 | Mikk | i have a fairly complete set of WA triggers for fury |
| 12:32.00 | Stanzilla | fury just needs a rage level and battle trance check |
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| 12:32.16 | Kainore | Happy New year to all |
| 12:32.34 | Stanzilla | too soon! |
| 12:32.35 | Mikk | um |
| 12:33.05 | mckenziemc | i think it's been for 32 minutes somewhere in the pacific ocean |
| 12:33.08 | Xuerian|zzz | GO AWAY YOU WEIRD FUTURE PEOPLE, Kainore! |
| 12:33.12 | Mikk | you also want to know about raging blow, berserker rage availabilty (if not enraged through other means), and colossus smash |
| 12:33.22 | Xuerian|zzz | I have a whole DAY of the past lef tto enjoy.. |
| 12:33.27 | Stanzilla | Mikk: I was just talking about heroic strike :) |
| 12:33.28 | Mikk | and you probably also want to know about your executioner stacks and time |
| 12:33.43 | Xuerian|zzz | Stanzilla: If you finish a set of auras for Fury I know a friend who would definitely want a copy :p |
| 12:33.52 | Stanzilla | Xuerian|zzz: I play arms atm! |
| 12:33.53 | Mikk | like i said, i have |
| 12:34.00 | Stanzilla | arms > fury all the way |
| 12:34.05 | Xuerian|zzz | Oh, was it Mikk.. |
| 12:34.06 | Mikk | arms wins over fury right now yes |
| 12:34.06 | nevcairiel | arms is boring |
| 12:34.14 | Stanzilla | gtfo nevcairiel :( |
| 12:34.15 | Xuerian|zzz | poor Mikk. |
| 12:34.19 | Xuerian|zzz | Getting passed over all the time :( |
| 12:34.22 | Mikk | its fine, it's my 4th alts offspec |
| 12:34.31 | Xuerian|zzz | (loled) |
| 12:34.32 | nevcairiel | swing weapon .. wait .. wait .. wait .. wait .. swing again ... wait ... wait |
| 12:34.33 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:34.43 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: looks like you haven't played arms in ages :D |
| 12:34.44 | Kainore | how is blizz rules to Export data into XML DB files ? |
| 12:34.47 | Mikk | add stance dancing and it gets more fun |
| 12:34.55 | Mikk | Kainore: explain |
| 12:35.00 | haste | nevcairiel: reminds me of 4.0 weapons as shaman in classic |
| 12:35.07 | Xuerian|zzz | Kainore: They're pretty fine with you getting stuff OUT of wow, iirc. It's the in that they don't like. |
| 12:35.21 | haste | it was either: swing -> wf -> dead target or swing -> waaaaaaaaait -> swing |
| 12:35.37 | Mikk | retribution paladin in vanilla |
| 12:35.43 | Mikk | seal,judge,seal,afk |
| 12:35.50 | Xuerian|zzz | Or retribution paladin on BC release day |
| 12:35.50 | nevcairiel | it really was all 2h users in vanilla |
| 12:35.54 | Mikk | come back after getting cup of coffee -> mob maybe dead already |
| 12:35.56 | Xuerian|zzz | faceroll,everything dead |
| 12:35.57 | Kainore | Mikk: I was thinking about takeing a recount output to a DB system of my own |
| 12:36.04 | haste | you mean: seal, judge, seal, afk, solo kazzak |
| 12:36.08 | Kainore | and a AH system of my own |
| 12:36.21 | Mikk | Kainore: blizzard does not have anything to say about recount outputs; it's not their data |
| 12:36.43 | Mikk | or well ok fine a part of it could be considered to be but |
| 12:36.43 | Xuerian|zzz | The AH thing might be more touchy, due to their little premium AH thing, depending on what it does |
| 12:37.16 | Stanzilla | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/203-trigger-grouping/ btw |
| 12:37.31 | Xuerian|zzz | FFFFUUUU |
| 12:37.33 | Kainore | Only getting data about prices and updateing it on a Major Database (with some help from java and a secondary program) and update the INgame database |
| 12:37.34 | Xuerian|zzz | goes to bed for realz. |
| 12:38.07 | Kainore | ofc Item name and stoff too |
| 12:38.30 | Kainore | not that you can buy or do anything else just "look" on allready scanned data |
| 12:40.12 | Mikk | Stanzilla: "(%1 or not %2) and %3" <- yep, totally |
| 12:40.24 | Stanzilla | yesh |
| 12:40.40 | Mikk | trying to build expressions like that with an UI always results in horror |
| 12:40.45 | Mikk | i've tried to many times in different environments |
| 12:41.01 | Mikk | windows, web, wow .. |
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| 12:41.55 | Kainore | if you know 100% what your doing there would be no problems it is just the way to the goal there is hard to find |
| 12:42.32 | quiescens | moo |
| 12:42.35 | StijnH | Hello, has anyone here done any work in C# with the Armoury API ? |
| 12:43.10 | Mikk | Xuerian|zzz: http://www.wowace.com/paste/4488/ <- my fury triggers |
| 12:43.27 | nevcairiel | great that its such a readable format |
| 12:43.53 | Mikk | Mmmm compression is fun |
| 12:44.03 | nevcairiel | compression is stupid |
| 12:44.13 | Mikk | I would agree - it doesn't even compress meaningful amounts |
| 12:44.51 | Xuerian|zzz | Mikk: Appreciated |
| 12:45.10 | Mikk | It _has_ an "export to Lua table" option too, but then it won't export children in a group |
| 12:45.40 | Mikk | But yeah he should have just stuck with the AceSerializer output imo and left off the compression |
| 12:45.53 | Stanzilla | I kinda liked this WA setup but he displays a lot of useless stuff, too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsPfGaoJf3A |
| 12:45.56 | Mikk | Then we'd be able to linebreak the triggers and make them look less horrible in forums and stuff |
| 12:46.28 | Mikk | i only display things when it's interesting |
| 12:46.41 | Mikk | like - berserker rage usable and you don't have an enrage effect up already |
| 12:47.18 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 12:47.36 | Stanzilla | as arms I just marco BS to MS like a boss! |
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| 13:31.23 | nevcairiel | Mikk: to be fair, AceSerializer includes control chars which you cannot safely copy/paste |
| 13:32.33 | nevcairiel | wait, my mistake, it doesnt |
| 13:32.40 | nevcairiel | thats acecomm that adds those control chars =p |
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| 13:48.04 | Mikk | indeedly |
| 13:48.18 | Mikk | aceserializer is perfectly copypaste safe and can even be linebroken or have spaces inserted |
| 13:48.41 | Mikk | on purpose |
| 13:49.01 | Mikk | so you can copypaste it into e.g. forums or e-mails that linebreak them |
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| 14:09.51 | quiescens | probably wouldn't be a very good serializer if it used control characters and stuffs |
| 14:09.54 | quiescens | ! |
| 14:10.06 | mckenziemc | serializes quiescens |
| 14:10.14 | quiescens | dies. |
| 14:10.31 | mckenziemc | deserializes quiescens |
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| 15:57.11 | starlon | uses quiescens for his evil experiments. |
| 15:57.18 | quiescens | dies. |
| 15:57.27 | starlon | IT'S ALIVE! |
| 15:57.42 | starlon | oh |
| 15:58.04 | Megalon | the dead kind of alive |
| 15:58.12 | starlon | :) |
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| 17:09.24 | mckenziemc | with some occasional mooing mixed in? |
| 17:14.26 | SunTsu | mckenziemc: I guess he's some kind of immortal performance artist, being influenced by southpark's Kenny |
| 17:40.51 | znf | mckenziemc, he dies a lot |
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| 23:00.27 | Mikk | Happy New Year! |
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| 23:31.35 | Mikk | My new year's resolution this year is .... 1024 x 768 |
| 23:33.37 | pompy | :O |
| 23:41.25 | nevcairiel | Mikk: thats pretty low, couldn't do any better this time around? |
| 23:42.08 | Mikk | wanted new gfx card for xmas ... fcking santa |
