| 00:19.36 | quiescens | dies. |
| 00:21.46 | mckenziemc | mourns. |
| 00:22.36 | znf | dances on quiescens's grave |
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| 01:02.27 | znf | wtf did they do with ElvUI |
| 01:02.33 | znf | it used to be so nice at 2.x |
| 01:02.38 | znf | now it's uber crap for 3.x |
| 01:19.45 | Stanzilla | znf: what's wrong with it |
| 01:20.07 | znf | completely different o.o |
| 01:22.13 | Stanzilla | and what's so crappy about it? D |
| 01:22.53 | znf | well, it used to have 2 settings before |
| 01:23.06 | znf | "low res" and "high res" which had 2 different layouts based on your screen size |
| 01:23.13 | znf | now it just scales your UI based on resolution :-/ |
| 01:23.34 | znf | the difference is that at 1280x720p it "scales" the user frames, action bars etc. over the chat frame |
| 01:24.09 | Stanzilla | but you can move/resize everything, right? |
| 01:24.48 | znf | I guess, but seems the moving doesn't work like it used to |
| 01:24.57 | znf | before you could link elements together, now it seems you can't |
| 01:25.01 | znf | or I can't figure out how |
| 01:25.12 | znf | before you had the cast bar in middle by default, now it's under your userframe by default |
| 01:25.24 | znf | and there's no centering option :-/ |
| 01:25.39 | Stanzilla | maybe you want this http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/elvui-lite/ |
| 01:26.24 | znf | I just downloaded that 1 minute ago :P |
| 01:26.50 | znf | hopefully they don't change anything in 4.3.2 regarding UI code |
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| 01:27.04 | znf | so they don't break it, as he doesn't plan to support that version anymore |
| 01:30.10 | Stanzilla | so far there are only minor changes in 4.3.2 |
| 01:30.51 | znf | You never know how they break something in there :P |
| 01:31.34 | Stanzilla | when I log in and everything looks fine and there are no errors, that's good enough for me :D |
| 01:32.28 | znf | wait until you cast a spell! |
| 01:32.32 | znf | or get into combat! |
| 01:33.57 | Stanzilla | I tested that :D |
| 01:34.06 | Stanzilla | wanted to see how the 64bit build performs |
| 01:36.11 | znf | over 9000% performance increase, eh? |
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| 01:36.28 | Stanzilla | nope, 10 fps or so |
| 01:36.36 | znf | huh? |
| 01:36.37 | znf | o.o |
| 01:36.46 | znf | that's in orgrimmar mode? |
| 01:37.06 | Stanzilla | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1060826-WoW-64-Client-Performance-Test?p=14991082 |
| 01:37.08 | Stanzilla | no |
| 01:38.19 | znf | addon memory issue? really? >_< |
| 01:38.32 | znf | isn't that a non-issue since... 1.x days or something? |
| 01:40.14 | znf | My issue is more with CPU usage of addons, rather than memory usage |
| 01:41.24 | znf | wonder if the 64bit client will help me regarding that issue |
| 01:41.34 | znf | wishes they'd focus a bit on multi-threading this damn thing |
| 01:59.56 | Stanzilla | their codebase is just too old |
| 02:00.02 | Stanzilla | can't get anything good out of that :p |
| 02:08.32 | znf | yeah, I realise that |
| 02:08.33 | znf | :-( |
| 02:08.45 | znf | damn you cpu manufacturers! Y U WORK ON MORE CORES?! |
| 02:21.45 | Megalon | HALF MAN! HALF MAN! HALF MAN! |
| 02:21.56 | Megalon | peter dinklpwnage |
| 02:22.56 | Torhal | locks Megalon in a sky cell. |
| 02:25.24 | znf | Hmmm |
| 02:25.28 | znf | what's this /timetest thingie? |
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| 02:25.56 | quiescens | moo |
| 02:27.07 | znf | stabs quiescens and turns him into a burger |
| 02:27.16 | znf | quiescens burger, mmm |
| 02:28.29 | quiescens | ): |
| 02:32.15 | pompy | znf: [09:31:45 PM]Taxi Time Test ON |
| 02:32.26 | znf | pompy, oh'rly? >_< |
| 02:32.37 | pompy | thats what came up |
| 02:32.41 | znf | I know that :P |
| 02:32.46 | quiescens | lies |
| 02:32.48 | znf | but what exactly does that mean? :D |
| 02:33.04 | quiescens | its to test taxi time |
| 02:33.05 | quiescens | duh |
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| 02:33.26 | znf | WOAH |
| 02:33.28 | znf | HOLY F* |
| 02:33.34 | pompy | A Taxi Time Test, run by the slash command /timetest, can be run to provide information on game performance. /timetest 0 turns the command off. When the command is issued, the next time a player uses a flight master to travel, certain statistics will be measured and displayed at the end of that flight. |
| 02:33.53 | znf | the whole lighting changed when I took a taxi wtf |
| 02:33.55 | pompy | All weather effects and spawns are shutdown during the test. At the end of the test minimal, maximal and average frame rate are displayed. |
| 02:34.23 | znf | cool |
| 02:34.33 | znf | wants to turn that off all the time |
| 02:34.48 | quiescens | is there not an option? |
| 02:35.14 | pompy | turn what off? |
| 02:35.33 | pompy | it was added in 2.3.2 |
| 02:35.59 | znf | weather effects, light effects, spawns etc. :D |
| 02:36.41 | quiescens | presumably to make it less random |
| 02:37.59 | znf | yeah, i get that |
| 02:38.10 | znf | pretty cool how some areas are without lighting :) |
| 02:48.11 | quiescens | does it stop the person from swiveling their camera around like a madman? |
| 02:50.49 | znf | quiescens, yes |
| 02:51.03 | znf | http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8849/auctionexploit.jpg <--- this is funny |
| 02:55.42 | quiescens | wow |
| 02:55.48 | quiescens | it costs 13g to auction a bag |
| 02:57.26 | quiescens | why is it particularly funny anyway? |
| 02:57.42 | quiescens | slightly amusing at best surely |
| 03:00.44 | pompy | quiescens: 23 bags ;p |
| 03:02.14 | znf | quiescens, it's funny that there could be such a bug in the auctioning interface |
| 03:02.43 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 03:02.48 | quiescens | iuno what a netherweave bag costs |
| 03:08.32 | znf | I'm going to assume that it costs 60s to auction a bag :P |
| 03:08.41 | znf | lua> 23 * 60 |
| 03:08.42 | lua_bot | znf: 1380 |
| 03:09.03 | quiescens | do you know the thingy is real though? |
| 03:09.20 | znf | let's see |
| 03:09.20 | quiescens | the auction item thingy still says 23 in the top |
| 03:09.54 | znf | 0.22.50 for a stack of lavascale |
| 03:10.05 | znf | so that's 2.25.00 for 10 stacks |
| 03:10.16 | znf | switching back and forward in the tabs |
| 03:10.22 | znf | w00t, 22.50 total cost, lol |
| 03:10.40 | quiescens | no i mean |
| 03:10.48 | quiescens | does it actually still post all 10 stacks? |
| 03:12.08 | quiescens | between 2 and 3 in that shot, would the icon for the item you're auctioning disappear after you post it, i forget how the interface works |
| 03:12.28 | znf | meh |
| 03:12.30 | znf | posts 10 stacks |
| 03:12.39 | znf | but the cost is wrong, it will use the normal price :P |
| 03:12.48 | quiescens | told yew! |
| 03:12.54 | znf | so much for that :P |
| 03:13.42 | znf | I tried 10 stacks of 1 |
| 03:14.00 | znf | when I switched tabs, the cost of auctioning was set to the actual price of a stack |
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| 08:04.10 | quiescens | o.o |
| 08:04.34 | quiescens | i don't know first hand but i have to say |
| 08:05.23 | quiescens | the american elections don't come across very well in our news over here |
| 08:07.44 | quiescens | probably not as bad as the news reports claim though? |
| 08:08.41 | quiescens | they make it sound like all your candidates do is attack other candidates' random unrelated character traits, and only occasionally discuss policy |
| 08:09.21 | Brybry | no, that's pretty much how republican stuff goes |
| 08:10.22 | quiescens | something about attacking the fact that some candidate knows how to speak french or mandarin or something, what does that even have to do with anything? |
| 08:10.53 | znf | it's fun! |
| 08:11.00 | znf | goes to bed after killing quiescens |
| 08:11.01 | Brybry | you have to remember that their target demographic/voter is the same voter who voted for Bush |
| 08:11.20 | quiescens | dies. |
| 08:11.23 | znf | OMG HE KNOWS MANDARIN! THE INFIDEL COMMUNIST! |
| 08:12.21 | Brybry | and it's not the general election, it's just the republican primaries~ |
| 08:12.36 | quiescens | oh |
| 08:12.54 | quiescens | so all this stuff i'm seeing is one party attacking its own candidates? |
| 08:13.28 | Brybry | yes |
| 08:13.33 | quiescens | that seems counterproductive in the long term |
| 08:13.43 | Brybry | standard republican operating procedure |
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| 08:14.17 | Brybry | doesn't vote |
| 08:14.38 | Brybry | I live in a red state so it's pointless =( |
| 08:14.39 | quiescens | welll voting is compulsory here |
| 08:14.48 | quiescens | or you get fined for some negligible amount |
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| 15:55.50 | znf | GnomeWorks, I mean |
| 15:58.52 | Dark_Elf | ~project GnomeWorks |
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| 16:02.32 | purl | Dark_Elf: i haven't seen 'lilsparky' |
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| 19:11.08 | Dark_Elf | http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9291/wowscrnshot011612133408.jpg |
| 19:11.15 | Funkeh` | I see they've started on the swtor phishing, even though I'm not signed up to swtor, damn buncha chancers |
| 19:15.08 | nevcairiel | i've always been getting those things for games i dont have |
| 19:15.13 | nevcairiel | guildwars, rift, you name it |
| 19:15.29 | znf_ | what's oSkin? |
| 19:15.47 | Stanzilla | the past of Skinner I think |
| 19:15.58 | nevcairiel | skinner before it became crap |
| 19:16.11 | nevcairiel | dunno if haste ever did something again with oSkin |
| 19:16.22 | znf_ | meh |
| 19:16.28 | znf_ | skinning addon but no screenshot |
| 19:16.30 | znf_ | fail |
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| 19:19.17 | haste | nevcairiel: nah, there were some ideas brainstormed, but concept scrapped |
| 19:19.36 | nevcairiel | figured you would go the lazy route! |
| 19:19.58 | Dark_Elf | http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9434/wowscrnshot011612115607.jpg |
| 19:20.00 | haste | yeah, I just rerolled the useful parts into addons instead :D |
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| 19:22.15 | znf_ | why do people insist on using crap imageshack? |
| 19:22.22 | znf_ | It's so incredible slow loading |
| 19:22.30 | znf_ | It's like loading a 2MB gif on a dial-up connection |
| 19:22.48 | haste | imageshack is actually fairly fast here |
| 19:22.59 | haste | what bothers me is when people don't directly link the images |
| 19:23.12 | Dark_Elf | ok |
| 19:23.48 | znf_ | it's incredibly slow here |
| 19:24.10 | znf_ | 2012-01-16 21:16:06 (153 KB/s) - `wowscrnshot011612115607.jpg' saved [593217/593217] |
| 19:24.43 | znf_ | compared to 1MB/sec of imgur |
| 19:24.48 | Dark_Elf | could been worse had it been bmp format |
| 19:25.02 | haste | 2012-01-16 20:24:35 (339 KB/s) - `wowscrnshot011612115607.jpg' saved [593217/593217] |
| 19:25.19 | znf_ | haste, US? |
| 19:25.25 | haste | EU |
| 19:25.54 | nevcairiel | i usually just put my images on jnwhiteh's image thingy. :D |
| 19:26.05 | jnwhiteh | that's what its there for :P |
| 19:26.16 | haste | but is it faster?! |
| 19:26.19 | znf_ | I like imgur :P |
| 19:26.20 | jnwhiteh | yes. |
| 19:26.23 | haste | :D |
| 19:26.24 | jnwhiteh | undoubtedly yes. |
| 19:26.26 | haste | I've used it a lot |
| 19:28.24 | znf_ | but my biggest issue with imageshack is that the speed is not constant |
| 19:28.28 | znf_ | I click an image link |
| 19:28.37 | znf_ | it loads up 10% of the image |
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| 19:28.48 | znf_ | pauses for a few seconds then it finishes up loading |
| 19:29.27 | Dark_Elf | http://www.wowace.com/addons/baggins/repositories/bagginsdarkelf71/files/26-r537/ - my latest baggins should anyone would to test |
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| 20:12.57 | scotepi | is there a guide or a well writen addon that has an example of using sub category in AceConfigDialog |
| 20:17.44 | scotepi | nm, not to that point yet |
| 20:19.53 | Humbedooh | people are busy celebrating the death of SOPA I suppose :( |
| 20:21.29 | Humbedooh | shall celebrate with a sip of coffee |
| 20:29.51 | scotepi | did it finaly die? |
| 20:30.21 | scotepi | forgot what a nightmare it was making a AceConfig Options table... hopes Ace4 will have a much cleaner way of doing it |
| 20:31.25 | Humbedooh | it did indeed teh die |
| 20:32.26 | Humbedooh | stabbed in the eye by Eric Cantor |
| 20:33.26 | scotepi | nice, maybe something else can finaly spam my G+ |
| 20:33.54 | Humbedooh | PIPA is still up for grabs though :> |
| 20:34.10 | Humbedooh | at least till the 24th |
| 20:34.37 | scotepi | alll this crap people get so bent out of shape about will never pass... |
| 20:34.47 | scotepi | hides from obamacare and patriot act |
| 20:35.11 | Dessa | Humbedooh: PIPA is unlikely to pass when SOPA does not pass however. |
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| 20:36.36 | Humbedooh | yeah it'll get killed probably |
| 20:37.11 | Humbedooh | and then we'll have a year of no sopa, no pipa, and then some idiot will make a new bill :> |
| 20:37.47 | Dessa | probably. |
| 20:38.57 | scotepi | is AceConfig Options multiselect the same as html <select multipul=multipul>? |
| 20:41.11 | Xuerian | It should be, they did it pretty sensibly |
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| 20:45.07 | Torhal|work | scotepi: If people hadn't gotten so bent out of shape, it may have passed. |
| 20:45.33 | scotepi | true |
| 20:46.04 | Xuerian | Of course what we americans call bent out of shape other countries call "not taking any shit" |
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| 20:53.46 | Gnarfoz | problem is, many times, even if people get bent out of shape, politicians will still do whatever the fuck they please |
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| 21:50.05 | scotepi | dumb lua table issue... test.lua:5: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 4) near '=' http://pastebin.com/csHsJ4bH |
| 21:53.27 | Dark_Elf | at least it told u what line numbers to edit |
| 21:53.38 | scotepi | not sure whats wrong with them tno |
| 21:53.39 | scotepi | tho |
| 21:53.56 | nevcairiel | scotepi: string keys need to be like ['string'] |
| 21:54.01 | scotepi | ah |
| 21:54.05 | scotepi | thanks |
| 21:54.20 | nevcairiel | as an alternative, only CHAT_MSG_PARTY, and no quotes |
| 21:54.30 | nevcairiel | but that only works as long as you have no spaces or other funny bussiness |
| 21:54.32 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 21:54.53 | Torhal|work | Aye, because 'global', 'color', and 'chatEvents' are all keys as well. |
| 21:54.55 | scotepi | but then it would take the localized version that i dont want |
| 21:55.00 | Torhal|work | And they're working just fine without quotes :) |
| 21:55.01 | Dark_Elf | ['CHAT_MSG_PARTY'] = true, |
| 21:55.03 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:55.14 | nevcairiel | it doesnt treat them as variables |
| 21:55.23 | nevcairiel | its just a shorthand for using the string version |
| 21:55.37 | nevcairiel | only works for table keys. :) |
| 21:55.37 | scotepi | i dont want it to turn into PArty |
| 21:55.55 | Torhal|work | scotepi: Nope. They're named exactly how you name them. |
| 21:56.03 | nevcairiel | lua> t = { PARTY = true }; pp(t) |
| 21:56.04 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: { ["PARTY"] = true } (#1) |
| 21:56.09 | nevcairiel | identical ^ |
| 21:56.11 | Torhal|work | Only time it'd be localized is if you told it to be. |
| 21:56.28 | Torhal|work | [L["Localized"]] = true |
| 21:57.03 | nevcairiel | if you do [PARTY], then it'll try to lookup a PARTY variable and use that |
| 21:57.11 | nevcairiel | with just PARTY, its just that, a string called PARTY |
| 21:57.16 | nevcairiel | just a nice shortcut for writing tables |
| 21:57.55 | scotepi | thanks |
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| 22:07.11 | superj | xuerian |
| 22:07.40 | Xuerian | superj: PMs |
| 22:07.46 | scotepi | not sure how to ask this.. So im taking that table of variables and now I need to make another version of it CHAT_MSG_PARTY = 'Party'.. so basicly i need to evalute CHAT_MSG_PARTY as if it was a variable inside a variable. in php it would be $$CHAT_MSG_PARTY |
| 22:07.54 | scotepi | how would i do that in lua |
| 22:08.07 | Xuerian | _G[CHAT_MSG_PARTY] |
| 22:08.13 | Xuerian | or t[CHAT_MSG_PARTY] |
| 22:08.14 | Xuerian | whatever. |
| 22:09.03 | Torhal|work | scotepi: What exactly are you doing? |
| 22:09.26 | scotepi | im trying to make it so i just need 1 table of event lists |
| 22:10.23 | Torhal|work | scotepi: But what are you doing with this?: CHAT_MSG_PARTY = 'Party' |
| 22:10.26 | scotepi | i chose to use my addon defaults as the master, and then for the multiselect options i need to make a table on the fly of events that can be turned on off that is formate key=name ie. chat_msg event=event name |
| 22:10.26 | Torhal|work | Are you localizaing? |
| 22:10.40 | scotepi | having it automaticly localized |
| 22:11.11 | Torhal|work | CHAT_MSG_PARTY = _G.CHAT_MSG_PARTY |
| 22:12.22 | scotepi | needs to start using /lua more and less /rl |
| 22:13.15 | Xuerian | scotepi: The better question is do you want your keys to be 'CHAT_MSG_PARTY' or CHAT_MSG_PARTY ? Do you care? |
| 22:13.22 | Xuerian | Because it doesn't really matter, localizations won't change per session |
| 22:13.36 | scotepi | no ', i droped those |
| 22:13.46 | Xuerian | no but there's a difference |
| 22:13.54 | Torhal|work | Xuerian: Not for table keys. |
| 22:14.14 | Torhal|work | ['CHAT_MSG_PARTY'] is the same as CHAT_MSG_PARTY |
| 22:14.35 | Xuerian | Not when you're adding keys or setting values it isn't |
| 22:14.47 | Xuerian | When you're initializing a table it is but scotepi isn't doing that directly or he wouldn't need to do it dynamically |
| 22:14.52 | Torhal|work | Aye, I'm talking constructors which is what he pasted |
| 22:15.09 | Xuerian | It is? |
| 22:15.13 | Xuerian | Oh. |
| 22:15.17 | scotepi | _G[event] worked |
| 22:15.17 | Xuerian | I didn't look high enough. |
| 22:15.17 | Torhal|work | lol |
| 22:15.24 | Torhal|work | scotepi: Aye. |
| 22:15.34 | Torhal|work | [16:11:10] <@Torhal|work> CHAT_MSG_PARTY = _G.CHAT_MSG_PARTY |
| 22:15.59 | Xuerian | scotepi: it's not so much the _G as t[key] is the same as $var[$key] and _G is the global scope |
| 22:16.16 | scotepi | i tried that with _G.event but no go, i needed the [] to be evalued.. as someone said earlier with contructing the table |
| 22:16.23 | Xuerian | HA |
| 22:17.14 | Torhal|work | scotepi: Yah - dot-notation only works for exact key names. |
| 22:17.40 | Torhal|work | 'event' in your case is a variable which references a string :) |
| 22:17.49 | Torhal|work | And _G shouldn't have an 'event' key. |
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| 22:20.02 | scotepi | yeah so i needed the [event] to make it use the value of event, ie parse/evaluate it |
| 22:20.27 | superj3211 | srry xuerian i dicconnected for a sce |
| 22:20.30 | superj3211 | sec |
| 22:20.49 | superj3211 | how do i pm again |
| 22:21.11 | Torhal|work | Via /msg name |
| 22:28.39 | scotepi | is there a library to make a dropdown menu? right now i have one hard coaded but I want to be able to insert more options into it with modules |
| 22:29.35 | scotepi | right now im just doing a hard check for modules, but id like the modules to insert themself |
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| 22:31.27 | Xuerian | scotepi: Just learn to use UIDropdownMenu tbh, http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15763 is a good guide. The simple explanation is make a dropdown frame (just a frame), give it a initialize func according to that thread, then call the function to show it. |
| 22:34.03 | scotepi | looks like what im using |
| 22:35.04 | scotepi | im just thinking of managing it via a table where I can have like top,midtop,mid,midbot,bottom sections to add stuff |
| 22:35.36 | Xuerian | Then write a wrapper for your dropdown menu :p |
| 22:35.36 | Torhal|work | You can do that. |
| 22:35.45 | Torhal|work | Just iterate over the sections and add the buttons. |
| 22:37.52 | Torhal|work | scotepi: BTW: Look at Postal. |
| 22:38.03 | Torhal|work | Uses UIDropDownMenu and has modules. |
| 22:38.29 | scotepi | i 'borrowed' my code from Skada but ill look at postal |
| 22:38.44 | Xuerian | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=264609&postcount=3 |
| 22:38.59 | Xuerian | Xinhuan's guide to uidropdown menu using postal as a example |
| 22:54.32 | Dark_Elf | yeah its got a layered menu |
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