IRC log for #wowace on 20120120

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00:37.39znfwonders what Torhal is doing
00:38.55Torhalznf: About to get started on coding.
00:39.01znf\o/
00:40.57StanzillaTorhal: what will you code today?
00:41.16TorhalA cure for the cancer that is killing The Internet: Stanzilla.
00:41.25Stanzilla2/10
00:53.06znfmeh
00:53.12znfI hate it when I can't find a pug for madness :-(
00:56.08quiescenso.o
00:57.55znfstupid 3am :(
00:58.00quiescensgoto sleep
00:58.14znfnevermind, I found one
00:59.12znfor not, group full, meh :-(
01:01.08znfWhy the hell would I sleep when I woke up at 10pm?
01:05.11quiescenssleep is good
01:05.12quiescenso.o
01:05.54Torhal@describe quiescens
01:05.56RepoTorhal: Unable to complete request.
01:06.04Torhalshrugs.
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02:00.54XuerianHmm. Can't figure out if I want XLoot's auto-looting (coin and quest items) to happen after loot is shown or beforehand.. beforehand requires calculating bag space, and possibly available partial stack space.. Afterwords leaves empty slots if "collapse" is off. =X
02:03.07Dark_Elfwill it have option to not autoloot quest item?
02:03.23XuerianBoth coin and quest item have "never", "solo", and "always"
02:05.34Dark_Elfim so use to autolooting coin i dont even bother looking at coin in the loot window
02:06.43XuerianWell, I don't loot junk at low levels so I like to be able to click and move as soon as it opens and I don't see anything interesting that I don't have to loot. Really, the question isn't about autolooting it's about when it should be done... And I'm thinking beforehand, because I like that the window doesn't come up at all/doesn't have empty slots
02:08.07Dark_Elfand quest item, like said usually full, i will take the item over a questitem, can always go back and waste 30 minutes getting the quest item again, item not so much
02:10.41Dark_Elfpicks before
02:10.52Dark_Elfif always is on then it wont need window
02:11.13Dark_Elfand never it will be in the window
02:11.26Dark_Elfframe i mean
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02:39.07XuerianI'm getting a little lax in testing features now that it's simple to push versions with the repo set up correctly.. >_>
02:42.50Dark_Elfdoes that mean i have to load game and test xloot1.0?
02:43.08XuerianHmm. Well there's a glitch in the packager. When pushing two new tags, the packager will package both lib and no lib of tag a, but only nolib of tag b
02:43.18XuerianDark_Elf: Not until I get it to package the latest version..
02:44.26Dark_Elfyeah it packages a lot of those
02:45.26XuerianTorhal: Who do I bug about packager issues?
02:45.35TorhalXuerian: What's up?
02:46.22XuerianTorhal: I (accidentally, albeit) pushed commits including two new tags to the CF repo. It picked up both tags, but only built nolib for the second tag
02:46.34Xuerian(Tag 1-lib, tag 1-nolib, tag2-nolib)
02:46.48TorhalUGh.
02:47.06TorhalWhat's the project link?
02:47.15XuerianTorhal: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/xloot-1-0/files/
02:47.24XuerianWell.
02:47.27XuerianThat's weird.
02:47.41TorhalIf I can't do anything, you'll have to push another tag. Packager is wonky and needs a rewrite. Was supposed to happen months ago, but shit keeps piling up (same reason Repo isn't actually back yet)
02:48.14XuerianI pushed z25d to repackage, and then another z25c-nolib got pushed with the missing full z25c.. and then without the full z25c (see -1minute, -7minute)
02:48.52TorhalMeh
02:49.00XuerianWell it works, just reporting the bug as it were
02:49.05Xuerians/works/worked out/
02:51.08XuerianDark_Elf: If you want to try it, it's up there. Not really much of a visible chagne
02:51.11Xuerianchange even, wtf.
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02:55.58TanngrisnirGuys, was wondering if anyone knew of a resource bank for templates of blp/tga graphics in the wow UI? I want some blizzard art for a addon im making.
02:56.14Arrowmaster~framexml
02:56.15purlextra, extra, read all about it, framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml
02:56.39TanngrisnirOr if someone had alternative ideas for graphics used for popup buttons etc used for proccs etc.
02:56.55Tanngrisnirthanks arrowmaster
02:57.02znfSo, is anyone around here working at wowstead/curse?
02:57.20znfwowstead actually, whatever they do with curse :P
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02:59.14TanngrisnirArrowmaster, I dont get access to the blp/tga files there through? I just get their XML
02:59.36Arrowmasteryou can get the art files with that art command if you want them
02:59.56StanzillaTanngrisnir: and browse them here http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/Interface
03:00.22Tanngrisniroh missed the art console command
03:00.27Tanngrisnirty Arrowmaster and Stanzilla
03:03.27XuerianTanngrisnir: Get used to SetTexCoord
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03:05.54XuerianAnd I swear they have a internal UI builder because some of the textures are nice, correct fractions, but most of the recent stuff is arcane, non-matching coordinates. At least they list the image file to coord mappings at the top of XML files they're used in
03:10.05XuerianTorhal: That's weird, three minutes later it pushed a properly built pair. or was that you?
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03:10.21TorhalMe.
03:10.40TorhalShould have said something :)
03:11.42XuerianTorhal: Oh well. Thanks =P
03:11.45TorhalHehe, np
03:17.27Torhalznf: FOO!
03:17.32znfbar?
03:18.19Torhalznf: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/2z.png
03:18.31znfwoah
03:18.32znfTMI
03:18.47TorhalThat's expanded :P
03:19.04TorhalYou can click the +/- symbol next to the name to expand or contract
03:20.06znfCan you make the icon blink if you have expiring mail? :>
03:20.54TorhalIt would require some CPU usage.
03:21.16TorhalI'd essentially have to change the LDB icon to something else and back over an interval
03:21.18XuerianTorhal: Going to group items by expiry and make it a expandable submenu?
03:21.20znfOuch.
03:21.44znfwell, the blinking would make me log on that damn char and get the mail :P
03:22.07TorhalXuerian: They're already sorted the way they are in the inbox - descending order by expiration.
03:22.14TorhalI can add sorting
03:22.21TorhalWas actually going to for the top-level.
03:22.21XuerianTorhal: Right. But like znf said, TMI :p
03:22.33TorhalThat's why there's a plus/minus button next to the toon name :P
03:22.50TorhalI haven't actually enabled it yet, though, since I was just adding the layout of the expanded section.
03:22.50XuerianYeah. Guess that works :P
03:22.53TorhalHeh.
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03:23.45znfXuerian, so... fix XLM?
03:23.56Xuerianznf: Is it broke?
03:24.04znfthe thingie with the LFR rolls
03:24.11XuerianYou mean the spam.
03:24.20Xuerians/./?/
03:24.48znfno, the thingie with the rolls not showing up (or silently erroring out) when someone wins an item with a +100 roll
03:26.56XuerianOh. No, I haven't. Shrug. Guess I need to start on rewriting Group (Where that stuff will end up), I'm just avoiding it like the plague and working on a oUF layout =X
03:27.33znfY U WORK ON OUF?
03:27.39znfjust rewrite those plugins already :P
03:31.25znfhttp://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=10039:10011:10032:10010:10038:10020#modelviewer:4:8;13051;10;18889;1;18877;7;15015;3;18882;5;18886:5+1:0
03:31.28znfI should transmog to that
03:31.32znfjust to mess up with people :D
03:32.07Dark_Elflooks nice Torhal
03:32.46TorhalDark_Elf, znf: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/2_.png
03:33.06znfyes yes, cool, give give
03:33.11TorhalLOL
03:33.51Dark_Elfmumbles that looks better than original
03:34.07znfMailMinder is the name!
03:34.13znfdigs trough wowace
03:34.52TorhalI made the project, but the code is entirely on my machine until I push the first commit.
03:35.37TorhalGive me a few and I'll push the first alpha. There's quite a bit of polish I want to do before I do a release. Like config, filtering by realm, purging entries….etc.
03:35.54znfwaits patiently
03:36.14Dark_Elfif znf wants something blinking may have to put in that code from that lowhealth addon
03:36.31znfBlinking should be optional :P
03:36.46Dark_Elfexcept it dont blink the icon it blinks the darn middle of the screen
03:36.54znfnah, not that extreme o.o
03:37.21znfis wowhead extremly slow for everyone or just me?
03:37.39TorhalWow. I'm just now at 300 lines of code.
03:40.10Dark_Elflooks like could put in a timer = 0 if elapsed > 60 dataobj.red2 stuff would work for a blink
03:40.23TorhalOh, definitely.
03:40.34TorhalJust saying - it doesn't come without a cost. In this case, CPU for teh timer.
03:40.38Torhals/teh/the/
03:41.10znfenrages at wowhead.com being slow
03:43.07Dark_Elfshame blizzard dont do animated gif lol
03:43.38Dark_Elfanimated icon or whatever wouldnt need a timer then
03:44.58Dark_Elfi know something like shock and awe
03:45.45TorhalYah, but that would require LDB display AddOns to support
03:45.47TorhalAnd none do.
03:45.49TorhalMeh.
03:46.16znfhttp://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=21855:21852:21851:21849:21853:21850:14130#.
03:46.18znf\o/
03:46.25znfThat's my new transmog set!
03:46.53Dark_Elfi know something how bout a error frame the znf would know then lol
03:47.23znfMight as well have someone coming at my house and poke me to remind me about mail
03:47.55Dark_Elfyou have expired mail, please log off imediately ok to logoff cancel lol
03:50.04Dark_Elfuse libsink lol
03:50.16Xuerianznf: Is there some way to see that on a model?
03:50.29znfXuerian, click the dropdown
03:50.41znfand "vie win 3d"
03:50.45znfOr there: http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=21855:21852:21851:21849:21853:21850:14130#modelviewer:4:5;27821;7;27822;10;16642;9;16892;8;4272;6;27830;1;24942:5+1:0
03:50.56XuerianAh that would do it
03:52.49XuerianOh, and znf, I work on the ouf layout because I actually use that, lol.
03:52.58znfHmm, actually, I think I need to find a better head piece
03:53.17Dark_Elfneatherweave set nice
03:53.24XuerianGet the cloth monacle.
03:53.32XuerianAwesome people wear monacles.
03:53.56znfOh.
03:54.05znfHmmm, can you even transmog to that? wasn't it white quality?
03:54.19XuerianThe drop from the rare spawn in SMV
03:54.35znfcare for a name?
03:54.54znfaltough I could transmog to engineering goggles
03:55.17Xuerianhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=31220
03:57.12znfha, indeed, that's much better :>
03:57.52znfAh!
03:57.58znfThere's same model engineering monocles
04:01.01Torhalznf: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mailminder/files/
04:01.04XuerianAnd this is where we get Mogit
04:01.12znfMogit?
04:01.14TorhalKeep in mind, this is definitely not the finished product.
04:01.26XuerianAddon. Install it, revel in all the models and links
04:01.35znfthat's ok, I can send the pieces to you when it breaks
04:01.43Torhallol
04:01.59TorhalShouldn't break, but it lacks things that it needs/I want to add.
04:03.42znfXuerian, http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=51
04:03.43znf=)
04:04.13XuerianEh not bad. Season 1 mage is still my all-time favorite mage gear
04:04.31znfOr: http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=14152:9943:6427:9941:8288:9878:6429:4734#modelviewer:4:20;25205;20;27800;20;12676;3;27796;3;17271;1;28067;1;15910;3;11638:1+0:0
04:05.37znftoo bad I can't find a matching belt
04:05.53Torhalznf: Download!
04:06.00TorhalScrew transmogs!
04:06.03Torhalcackles!
04:06.07znfI already did
04:06.09TorhalAh
04:06.11TorhalHeh.
04:06.46znfor I thought I did
04:06.51znfthe curse client doesn't seem to agree with me :>
04:07.07znfAh, there we go
04:07.10TorhalHeh. There isn't a release file so the CC may go batty.
04:07.11TorhalAh
04:07.39znfdownloaded the specific release
04:08.46TorhalYou mean Alpha? :)
04:09.10znfrevision*
04:09.28TorhalHehe
04:10.34znfsends Torhal the pieces
04:11.13znfTorhal, here: http://www.wowace.com/paste/4599/
04:13.23TorhalMeh.
04:14.37znfswitches to git
04:20.21Torhalznf: Fixed.
04:20.44Dark_Elfrefranes from downloading
04:20.55TanngrisnirAnyone familar with loading custom images with Power Aura? Im running into unknown trouble :D My image is a 64*64 16kb uncompressed TGA file. Im using the Custom Texture option in Power Auras.
04:21.22znfsec, was just restarting my game
04:22.14Dark_Elfarent they suppose to be 128 x 128?
04:22.27znfweee, I like it :)
04:22.48Torhalznf: Good deal.
04:22.55TorhalDark_Elf: o.O
04:23.09TorhalOh, for PowerAuras? Dunno. Otherwise, you're nuts.
04:23.11Torhal:D
04:23.30znfTorhal, coloring of time left based on the ammount of days, where < 1 day == red?
04:23.39TanngrisnirDark_Elf why?
04:23.41Torhalznf: I told you, it isn't finished :P
04:23.42znf(actually, I think you could do that with the icon)
04:23.51TorhalAnd no, I can't.
04:23.53znfI'm just throwing ideas here
04:23.56Dark_Elfdunno just the rest were
04:23.56TorhalUnless I make several icons.
04:24.04znfAh, right, nevermind then :)
04:24.12TorhalLDB displays don't give the plugin access to the icon's texture.
04:24.36TorhalI can change the filepath to make the display show a NEW icon, but I can't maniputlate it at all :(
04:24.40Dark_Elfu can do it with several icons
04:24.46TorhalS'what I said.
04:24.48TorhalHehe
04:24.53Xinhuanthe TAG file should have a alpha channel
04:24.54XinhuanTGA*
04:25.02Xinhuanand it can be compressed with RLE
04:25.09znfBoub is kind of running out of stuff to post, it seems
04:25.15znfrecapping MoP stuff every day :P
04:25.16Dark_Elfi got a fps one that does yellow and green and red depending on framerate
04:25.21TanngrisnirXinhuan, I should RLE compress it?
04:25.26Xinhuanyes
04:25.32Xinhuani mean, why not?
04:25.49Tanngrisnirwell was reading guide, said NOT to do that
04:25.51Tanngrisnirhaha
04:26.00Xinhuanwow can read RLE compressed TGAs
04:26.18Xinhuanthe difference is wow would need to spend maybe 0.01s more time to uncompress it during load-time
04:26.57TorhalPeople get weird over stuff like that. Phanx almost freaks on people who use embeds.xml because it's an extra file WoW has to access.
04:27.05Torhal(I use embeds.xml)
04:27.27znfhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/216009-skyrim-trash-fix-plz/ <--- ilol'd
04:27.39Xinhuanits interesting for that particular case, because embeds.xml _significantly_ increases load time
04:27.57Xinhuana few times higher magnitude than decompressing TGAs
04:28.15quiescensmoo
04:29.15TorhalThat is interesting.
04:30.41Dark_Elfconsidering addon has toc think it be easier to do libs in toc
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04:31.37TorhalI have embeds.xml, locale.xml, and for ARL I even have interface.xml
04:31.51Xinhuanparsing XMLs take a significant amount of time
04:32.04znfWhy the reason for embeds.xml in the first place if .toc can do pretty much the same?
04:32.13TorhalLegacy WoWAce SVN
04:32.15Xinhuanthat's a lot of string parsing, search, and stuff, and the data structures to convert the XML into a tree
04:32.27TorhalAll the AddOns were in a huge SVN repo at one point.
04:32.32znfAh.
04:32.47znfBut now it doesn't need it, I take it?
04:33.13Dark_Elfexplores oldwowace in the mean time
04:33.23Xinhuanthat's a heck of things needed just to load an XML file
04:33.28Xinhuancompared to reading a single line in a TOC
04:34.01znfI'm not too sure on how stuff works on wowace, but isn't .pkgmeta doing pretty much the same thing as embeds.xml?
04:34.06XuerianIt was nice leaving XMLs behind completely =|
04:34.15Xinhuanya, it superceded embeds.xml
04:34.18Xuerian^
04:34.52znfHmmm, I see
04:35.05Xuerianznf: Really, embeds.xml was a file that could be easily removed to not load the libs. Packager can do a lot of advanced crap (that usually works) like simply not including the libs in the toc for nolibs zips
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04:35.49Xinhuanlibraries still use it because it provides other addons/libs the ability to just load that one xml file to load the entire lib which may contain multiple files (if the lib adds files, the addon using it doesn't need to change anything)
04:36.14znfSo what happens if I remove the embeds.xml zip now? Should I just reference the libs in my .toc? like
04:36.23TorhalI just do it for organization, really.
04:36.31znf\libs\LibDataBroker-1.1\LibDataBroker-1.1.lua
04:36.32znf?
04:36.39Xinhuanit would load faster in wow, and it would be one less file in your addon
04:36.51Dark_Elfhttp://old.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons - look at all those lovely addons, aw the great outdoors... err the good old days of wowace
04:37.01Xinhuanand yes, that works
04:37.07Dark_Elfyeah do that znf
04:37.09Xinhuantake a look at how addons like Omen do it ^^
04:37.24znfAnd what would happen with the -nolib package?
04:37.41Xinhuannothing happens really
04:37.54Dark_Elfdont put databroker in the nolib
04:38.01TorhalDark_Elf: It works just fine.
04:38.03Xinhuanthe libs don't get packaged, and the line in the TOC does nothing - wow tries to load a non-existant file
04:38.14TorhalDark_Elf: IF you're pulling from GitHub
04:38.22znfAh, cool
04:38.26TorhalThe packager says "Oh, this is off-site: Package it anyway"
04:38.26znfmakes the changes
04:38.29Xinhuanyour addon will need to put ## OptionalDeps on those libs which are assumed to be installed separatelty
04:38.44znfI don't have such a thing
04:39.23Xuerianznf: You can also use http://wow.curseforge.com/wiki/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ to tweak packaging manually, see no-lib-strip
04:39.25znfdoes the order of the files in the .toc matter
04:39.26znf?
04:39.30Xinhuanyes
04:39.32Xuerianznf: If one file depends on another yeah
04:39.36Xinhuanthey are loaded in order, obvously
04:39.49Xinhuaneven if you use a XML file, it loads in the same order the XML file specified them
04:40.16Xinhuanlibstub, for example would have to be loaded first, because all other libs depend on it
04:40.20Dark_Elfstub b4 ace
04:40.27znfLet's see.
04:40.33znfwonders if he'll break this
04:41.43Dark_Elfwonders what znf is breaking
04:43.13znfHmm, another question - I see embeds.xml is referencing other .xml files in the libraries
04:43.26znfShould I keep it like that or should I just "expand" the library in the .lua files?
04:44.02znflike libs\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0.xml
04:44.13XuerianKeep it likely, as Xinhuan said above
04:44.31XuerianThough so long as it gets in the toc in the order it was in the xml either will work
04:45.14Xinhuandon't expand xml in xmls
04:45.17Xinhuan:P
04:45.22Xinhuanyou'll die trying on Ace3
04:45.32XuerianWell, that.
04:45.41Xueriandoesn't have to deal with that >_>
04:45.43XinhuanaceGui sub-references over 50 files within the lib
04:45.46Dark_Elfcould do lua
04:45.53XuerianDark_Elf: You can't load files in lua.
04:46.45Dark_ElfScript file="CallbackHandler-1.0.lua
04:47.28nebula169that's loading the lua, not loading in lua
04:47.31nebula169:p
04:47.35znfXinhuan, damn it!
04:47.39znfjust as I commit
04:47.41znf>_<
04:47.58znfwell, I only have 1-file libs, I guess that won't do any damage
04:48.14Dark_Elfim pretty sure i have loaded it with libs\callbackhandler-1.0\callbackhandler-1.0.lua b4
04:48.19Xinhuanlib authors want to provide 1 entry point
04:48.24nebula169yea, you can do that
04:48.36Xinhuanso that if the lib adds more files, addons using it don't need to change
04:49.14Xinhuanbut sure, it likely won't break anything
04:49.16znfI can see now how having more addons installed can considerably increase your load times :P
04:49.16Dark_Elfreally want to mess up packager take the lua file out of folder and just put with toc
04:49.41Dark_Elfthen it would be callbackhandler-1.0.lua
04:49.46znfif every addon has ~5 libs, and they all use embeds.xml, the loading time adds up, I guess?
04:50.09nebula169its one reason people run disembedded, the difference isn't that large, though
04:50.29znfand with my ~200 items in the addons folder... :-/
04:51.32Xuerianznf: If you have a lot of addons with a lot of libs, yeah. Like, a lot of ace addons..
04:51.38znf@describe plantaindkp
04:51.39Repoznf: Unable to complete request.
04:51.51znfmost my addons are ace addons :>
04:52.11znfthing is, last time I tried to run disembedded I broke my whole UI :-
04:52.35znfI realise it should NOT happen, but it did :P
04:53.03Xinhuancurse client handles installing no-libs ok
04:53.14znfthat's what I used :>
04:53.16Dark_ElfRepo <znf> PlantainDKP is an addon to manage DKP, using a custom system named "Symphony".
04:53.28Xinhuanit will read the pkgmeta and figure out which libs are needed
04:53.36znfDark_Elf, yes, I know what addon I mantain :P
04:53.47Xinhuanso if it didn't work properly, then some addon didn't configure their addons for no-lib properly
04:54.26znfgranted, it was probably 2 years ago or something
04:54.37znfI'll probably give it a go sometime
04:55.45Xinhuanmost of it has to do with specifying the addon's optdeps in the right order
04:56.07Dark_Elflooks at this plantaindkp addon i just downloaded
04:57.07znfDark_Elf, you can't really use it alone :P
04:57.19znfit's just vhaarr's BananaDKP with a few modifications
04:59.03znfI have to bother sometimes to write a complete documentation
05:00.19znfHmmmm, ok, here's a tricky question
05:00.33znfI'm using GnomeWorks for a while now. Every time I craft an item, my game freezes for like half a second.
05:00.55znfWhen I run the profiler and craft something, I notice that Grid2's CPU usage skyrockets.
05:01.01Dark_Elfhave u opened the tradeskill window?
05:01.13znfno, I only have the queue window opened
05:01.27znfSo, my question is: why is Grid2 getting the blame for this?
05:01.35Torhalznf: Foof - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/3f.png
05:01.39znfOh, I'll disable it and see if someone else is getting the blame
05:01.47znfOH COLORS!
05:02.10Torhalznf: BTW: Libraries are shared. Whichever AddOn loads the library first will be blamed when another AddOn misuses it.
05:02.30znfeven if running disembeded?
05:03.13TorhalNo.
05:03.26Dark_Elfyeah libdbicon is good example of that
05:03.30TorhalWhen disembedded, the library runs as an independant AddOn.
05:03.54znfI see, now Omen is getting the blame.
05:04.43Dark_Elfhehe i messed up an icon and it was saying the lib from another addon was saying my icon was bad lol
05:06.03znfOh. Hooray for rare drop monocle schematics :-/
05:06.25Dark_Elfi think i create more errors than i fix
05:08.42Dark_Elfwell crap reloaded and xloot still in error and it showed 10 in font
05:08.52TorhalDark_Elf: If you hadn't seen, I updated - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/3f.png
05:09.12XuerianDark_Elf: Whut? What error and what version?
05:09.36Dark_Elfand i got a banana on my screen lol
05:09.59znflol
05:10.06znfwhere on your screen is the banana?
05:10.15Dark_Elf25d
05:11.14Dark_Elfxlootframebutton1text
05:11.46znfthat's not my banana
05:11.54XuerianDark_Elf: What's the error..?
05:12.10Dark_Elfexits game so can get error copied
05:13.15Dark_Elfleave it to a noob like me to err a great addon
05:13.35znfwonders why is it taking so much to update the armory model
05:13.51Xinhuanwell
05:13.56Xinhuanwhen you make addon changes
05:14.00Xinhuandid you restart wow fully?
05:14.08Dark_Elfyes
05:14.17Xinhuanwow only reads the directory/files that exist once at startup
05:15.18Dark_ElfXLoot1.0-z25d-release\\XLoot-nil.375.lua:320: Usage: <unnamed>:SetFont(\"font\", fontHeight [, flags]
05:15.18znfwonders why the hell is he keeping ElvUI around
05:15.31Dark_ElfXLoot1.0-z25d-release\\XLoot-nil.375.lua:320: Usage: XLootFrameButton1Text:SetFont(\"font\", fontHeight [, flags]
05:16.21XuerianDark_Elf: What are you trying to set the font size to..?
05:16.59znfnow...
05:17.13znfwould anyone tell me WHY THE F* my AddOns.txt keeps dissapearing?!
05:17.15TorhalThoughts? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/3h.png
05:17.33Dark_Elfwell like i said earlier not know the different font size like noob would set it to bad 6, then 8 then 10, quit reloaded it was 10 in text field
05:18.07znfTorhal, think it could use an auto-adjust of the space between the collumns name/time left/mail/auctions
05:18.22TorhalHuh?
05:18.33Dark_ElfTorhal is that a static yellow or can i change the color?
05:19.02TorhalStatic. No bells and whistles yet.
05:19.18znfTorhal, when you expand the toons mail, the frame will expand, so could you redistribute the free space that's between toon's name, time let, mail and auctions counts?
05:19.27TorhalAnd I'm not sure I'd add a color picker just for a subject text
05:19.40Torhalznf: No. There are seven columns in the tooltip
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05:19.50TorhalFive are used before expansion.
05:19.59znfAh. I see
05:20.02Dark_Elfmay need more space between subject and from but imagine since it qtip it may adjust the text to longest line anyway
05:20.06TorhalOne for the expand/contract button, then Name, Time, Mail, Auctions
05:20.15TorhalIt does.
05:20.32znfso Subject takes the space for expand/name/time/mail/auctions
05:20.34znfmkay
05:20.37znfgood enough
05:20.41TorhalThen when you expand it, the Subject takes four columns, starting from second
05:20.47Dark_Elflook at last line 1 space between the 2 longest fields
05:21.18znfwonders if this AddOns.txt file going MIA is a Curse Client bug
05:21.31Dark_Elfto be honest i think i would reverse the time left and from
05:21.33quiescenssomeone is haxing your computer
05:21.38quiescensto delete your addons.txt
05:21.54znfI have a backup of it, but it's still frustrating to log on and see all your addons enabled :-/
05:21.59Torhalznf: It is if you haven't updated the CC.
05:22.06quiescensdelete them
05:22.17znf4.0.1.180 is latest or?
05:23.06TorhalNo idea. I have a Mac.
05:23.46Dark_Elf4.0.1.180 is what i got
05:23.56znfno client updates
05:24.08Dark_Elfnope
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05:25.13XuerianDark_Elf: I can't reproduce your error. Set to 10, no error. OK'd out of options, no error. /rl, no error. Loot something: no error
05:25.42Dark_Elfset it to 6
05:26.11Dark_Elfor noob 32 60
05:26.35Dark_Elfhehe
05:26.50Xuerian6: works fine. 99: works fine.
05:26.56Dark_Elfuse to windows fonts didnt realize that font didnt know
05:27.13Dark_Elfdeletes save variables and starts over
05:31.43Dark_Elfslaps self 100 times
05:32.22Dark_Elfthat fixed it, 6, 60 worked and this time they were filled in with 12 and 10 last time they were blank
05:32.58Dark_Elfi feel so stupid now
05:33.56znffixes Dark_Elf
05:34.10Dark_Elfthats impossible task
05:34.14XuerianDark_Elf: Heh.
05:34.42XuerianIs there any way to remove the cooldown radial of a cooldown, leaving just the frame that OmniCC etc will put a number on?
05:35.05Dark_Elfcourse if some noob dont delete their save variables i guess they could reproduce the problem
05:35.54XuerianDark_Elf: I hate telling people to remove SV
05:36.04Xuerianmost of the time they ignore me and say they do
05:36.17XuerianI think I'm just going to add a /xloot makeponies command that forcibly wipes it
05:36.33Xuerian"Got a problem? Make some ponies"
05:36.40Dark_Elf:p
05:36.41XuerianJust like telling people to reboot
05:36.53znfhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Znufflessd/advanced
05:36.57znfNeed matching shoulders! :-|
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05:37.05Xuerian"I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT" "I know, just do it" "STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO" "Just do it." "OK I DID I T" "No, seriously, do it. "FINE"
05:37.57XuerianShadoweave?
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05:43.34znfnah
05:43.36znffound some
05:43.38znfDarkcloth
05:43.42znffrom Darkmoon Faire decks
05:43.52znftehehehe, I look ridiculous :D
05:44.50znfnow if I could trasmog this damn legendary :-/
05:46.59znfHmmm, this game needs a Pirate Hat + Monocle in one :-/
05:47.10znfis mckenziemc really using dial-up?
05:47.34Torhalznf: He's using a tin-can-on-a-string modem couplink.
05:47.49znfaren't pigeons more effective?
05:50.10mckenziemcbrb
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05:53.10znfXuerian, Mogit is dissapointing :(
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05:54.02znfit pretty much shows you how few options you have :(
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05:57.11Torhalznf: Sure, if he's conforming to RFC 1149.
06:03.50quiescensgasp
06:05.30XuerianI feel bad for him :(
06:06.00quiescenspigeons have higher bandwidth but latency is worse than tin can and string
06:06.32XuerianActually if your isp is good and lines aren't crap the latency is a playable 120 or so
06:07.47steevugh
06:07.52steevdown dw first time in 25
06:09.02znfYou sure took your time :P
06:11.20Torhalquiescens: I take it you'd never heard of that RFC?
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06:11.49quiescensits probably the pigeon thingy
06:11.55quiescensi just can't be bothered checking for sure
06:12.01steevznf: yeah, we had a hell of a time getting people to show up
06:12.13steevsucky thing? 4x http://www.wowhead.com/item=78481 drop
06:12.16XuerianHaha, that's great.
06:12.35znfsteev, had the same... in LFR :P
06:12.46znfreally crap drop :-/
06:12.49steevi haven't run lfr since the first week
06:13.15steevi can't be arsed, and at this point, all i really need are rings, and chest/shoulders
06:15.45steevand gems, but the gem prices on my server are *stupid* retarded (2 of my guildies own the market)
06:16.04steevit's like 8.5-10k gold for a bold queen's garnet
06:18.56znfOuch
06:19.07znfhere it's ~1.5k for an uncut one
06:20.53steevi think if i asked them they'd just give me them (i need 10), but i'm like eh, both annoy the shit out of me so
06:21.08steevand neither of them remotely come close to needing money
06:21.19steevone has ~900k, i think the other has like 600
06:21.33steevbut the one with 600 was doing a lotto each week giving away 6k to guildies
06:23.37znfTorhal, http://www.wowace.com/paste/
06:24.00znfdamn it
06:24.03znfI always do that
06:24.08znfTorhal, http://www.wowace.com/paste/4600/
06:24.40TorhalErm
06:24.53TorhalCan you paste here what is on that line?
06:25.52znfyeah, here it is:
06:25.53znf}
06:25.55znf:>
06:26.24znfthe conditional starts @ 258 with: if not character_data then
06:26.24Torhal>.<
06:26.51TorhalWell, my line 258 is:
06:26.53Torhaltable.insert(player_data.mail_entries, {
06:27.38znfcommit
06:27.41znfand I'll update
06:27.45znfstill have a few mails to send
06:27.55TorhalI pushed 30 minutes ago.
06:29.09znfhas no idea how to work with TurtoiseGIT
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06:30.20Dark_Elfon that note.....poof and away we go
06:38.43znfTorhal, line 293
06:39.30znfI have a feeling that if I log on that banker that I'm sending the mails to, I won't see the error anymore :)
06:40.49TorhalThat's confusing, because it's saying "If this table doesn't exist, create it"
06:40.58TorhalUnless current_mail.recipient is nil.
06:41.02TorhalThat would cause issues.
06:41.08TorhalCan't have a key that's nil.
06:42.03TorhalJust pushed with a probably fix.
06:42.09Torhalprobable.
06:44.39znfI'll be the judge of that!
06:44.47TorhalYar.
06:45.23znfNope, still errors out.
06:45.58znfXuerian, http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Znufflessd/advanced do my shoulders match? ^^
06:46.43Torhalo.O
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06:49.24Torhalznf: Pushed again. That's fucking odd if this fixes it.
06:50.40znfreloads ui
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06:51.38znfTorhal, I hate to break it to you
06:51.42Torhal?
06:51.44znfthat fixed it
06:51.48TorhalUgh
06:51.52TorhalRace condition.
06:52.03quiescensor
06:52.03TorhalSince it's a fucking hook, that event fires before the recipient is set.
06:52.06quiescensznf made up the whole thing
06:52.14TorhalNah.
06:52.30znfCould it be my postal that has the recipient autocompleted before I send it?
06:52.30TorhalAfter I said it'd be weird if that fixed it I thought of the race condition.
06:52.44TorhalNo, I'm secure-hooking SendMail
06:52.51TorhalThe hook fires AFTER SendMail.
06:53.03TorhalI'm supposing that events get a chance to fire first
06:53.18TorhalThough I was under the impression that the hook fired immediately after the original function returned.
06:53.22TorhalMeh.
06:53.38TorhalI'll have to futz with it or else that entire segment of code is useless.
06:54.17znflolwtf
06:54.21TorhalHrm?
06:54.23znfbest paladin transmog ever
06:54.41quiescenswhat is a transmog?
06:54.41znfhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Mamalpaladin/advanced
06:54.48znfI was like: "wtf, am I in stormwind?!"
06:55.33Torhallolwut
06:56.16znfthat looks so much like a stormwind guard heh
06:56.42TorhalI blame quiescens.
06:56.47znfkills quiescens
06:56.50quiescensdies.
06:56.55Torhal:O
06:57.00mckenziemc1revives quiescens.
07:01.24Humbedoohawake instead!
07:01.35quiescensgoto sleep
07:01.44Humbedoohno!
07:02.39Xuerianznf: Shoulders are better yea
07:04.30Humbedoohmerciful fåte? o.O
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07:04.47Torhalgoes all King Diamons on Humbedooh.
07:04.55Torhals/Diamons/Diamond/
07:05.34Humbedoohfåte is not a word :(
07:06.39Humbedoohgoes Mr Rogers on Torhal
07:07.24Humbedoohand we all know who won the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny!
07:07.56Humbedoohaccidentally kills innocent bystanders, i.e. quiescens
07:08.24mckenziemc1goto quiescens
07:09.00Torhalwhile mckenziemc1 do horrible_things() end
07:09.09Torhalgoes to bed.
07:11.52znfwonders why he logged off
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07:46.41Torhalznf: LDB ison is now colored.
07:46.44Torhalicon*
07:46.47TorhalAnd NOW I go to bed.
07:47.01znfNightie
07:47.13TorhalI was almost there when I realized TomTom's LDB arrow changed color.
07:48.35Megalonyou can run Torhal
07:48.38Megalonbut you can't hide
07:48.48Megalonmortal infidel
07:48.54HumbedoohTorTor
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13:31.36hellmansweQuestion is there a irc chat for the curse page .. need to get in contact with them
13:33.28hellmansweneed too submit a problem with the pages www.curse.com , www.curseforge.com and www.wowace.com i am getting Fel 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS)
13:33.56Humbedoohyou should probably wait a few hours, people are still asleep in the US or just waking up
13:34.03hellmansweoi
13:34.05hellmansweoki
13:34.24hastesounds like a DNS issue, seeing as it works here
13:34.44hasteunless their login is doing something stupid :D
13:35.15hellmansweit seems so yes .. the redirection is ass long .. se for your self
13:35.16hellmanswehttp://auth.curse.com/NetworkService.asmx/shareSession?from=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowace.com%2Fhome%2Fnetwork-cookie%2F%3Fnext%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.wowace.com%252Fhome%252Fnetwork-ckiooe%252F%253Fnext%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.wowace.com%25252Fhome%25252Fnetwork-ckiooe%25252F%25253Fnext%25253Dhttp%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.wowace.com%2525252Fhome%2525252Fnetwork-ckiooe%2525252F%2525253Fnext%
13:35.16hellmanswe2525253Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.wowace.com%252525252F%25252526coieok%2525253DDRMIBQADFVQOMWXG%252526coieok%25253DVPCXWJESAHNOEQSN%2526coieok%253DVYMEJAQTFTGSHHPI
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13:35.31Kalrothnice link bro
13:36.43hellmanswethats the redirection i am getting the same shit on all connections to any curse afflicted page.. even the forum.. o can not login and submit the error becuse of this
13:37.41hellmanswebut if you can connect .. go in to curse page and give me a email adress so i can send them a mail aboute this
13:41.31quiescenshaste probably broked it
13:41.58hastemaybe your poor health spread to it quiescens
13:42.00bluspacecowLOL
13:42.38quiescensgoto sleep blu
13:42.39quiescenso.o
13:42.46bluspacecowno.
13:42.53bluspacecowi hungry
13:42.54quiescens):
13:42.54bluspacecow:(
13:43.04quiescensgives blu a cookie
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17:37.06Mikkit's interesting that there's a "network-ckiooe" in that curse redirect string there
17:37.12Mikkbetcha money some webdev typoed
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17:45.51Torhal|workMikk: I"d say so. I actually read it as "cookie" the first time I saw it.
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17:58.17Humbedoohyou read everything as 'cookie'
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21:11.04znfwrong button
21:17.46mckenziemc1o.o
21:22.22Torhal|workinstalls a button in mckenziemc1's forehead for znf's amusement.
21:22.54znfpresses the button
21:25.28Humbedoohdies
21:31.05Torhal|workquiescens: I'll represent you at the lawsuit
22:01.21Fisker`nosoaphey Torhal|work
22:01.23Fisker`nosoapnot so hey Torhal|work
22:01.25Fisker`nosoaphey hey Torhal|work
22:02.26Humbedoohit's James Callahan, Esquire now
22:02.31Humbedoohhe's a lawyer you know
22:02.54Torhal|workdrafts SAFA, the Stop All Fisker Activity bill.
22:03.04Fisker`nosoapcan't stop a Fisker Torhal|work
22:03.16Humbedoohcosponsors it
22:03.23Fisker`nosoapFiskers are bulletproof
22:03.28Torhal|worko.O
22:05.59pompyleave Torhal|work alone
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22:33.13asmodaiTorhal|work!
22:34.43harli wonder.. either there are just several people collecting herbs in deepholm now (on my realm, anyway) or it's generally not a good place to do this..
22:35.25Stanzilladeepholm is the best (and only) place for heartblossom
22:37.37Mikklet's see if this assplodes people's irc clients too! =)
22:37.37harlyes, indeed it is, and i've collected more heartblossom than cinderbloom in the last near hour
22:37.39Mikkლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
22:37.57Mikkpasting that into wow chat makes fun
22:38.08harldidn't plode-whatever mine
22:38.09Mikkchat window refuses to linebreak it and it just keeps going
22:38.58Mikkwonders where to report this
22:39.24harli just posted it in my gild channel and nothing happened, just one line of brackets and question marks
22:39.42Mikkmmm wait i'm going to put up the raw text
22:39.47harlok
22:40.28Mikkhttp://mikk.cjb.net/broken-wow-chat.txt
22:40.42Mikknotepad copypastes it correctly
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22:41.17Shirikha, worked for me
22:41.25Shirikeven if it did show up as (???)?
22:41.30Shirikit still extended way past the chat box
22:42.20ShirikMikk: More fun to do it on realid
22:43.19harlyes, it did that for me too - i guess i expected for more to happen, sorry ;)
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