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| 00:19.39 | MysticalOS | don't forget curseforge |
| 00:19.49 | MysticalOS | er wait you don't have OP there |
| 00:19.50 | MysticalOS | :( |
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| 09:29.31 | Mikk | znf: ask what the FPS of the mage in question is |
| 09:29.49 | Mikk | low FPS = low DPS |
| 09:29.52 | znf | I play with 9 FPS in 25man raids |
| 09:29.58 | znf | And I'm in top3 most of the time |
| 09:30.00 | Mikk | class? |
| 09:30.05 | znf | spriest |
| 09:30.22 | Mikk | orange stick? =P |
| 09:30.36 | znf | yes, she has it, too |
| 09:30.38 | Mikk | ah |
| 09:30.57 | Mikk | and what's your difference between simcraft and actual? |
| 09:31.19 | znf | for me? |
| 09:31.21 | Mikk | yes |
| 09:31.51 | znf | I'm in the 95th percentile |
| 09:31.54 | znf | let me see |
| 09:32.37 | znf | SimC has me at 43.6k DPS |
| 09:33.02 | znf | I did 42.2k |
| 09:33.19 | Mikk | right, just trying to see how much having to phase out affects things |
| 09:33.25 | Mikk | having said that, spriest dots keep ticking |
| 09:33.47 | oro | ~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 09:33.53 | znf | also, last night I had huge server latency, and I had to time my phasing more carefully |
| 09:33.59 | Mikk | but yes i have to agree - it seems easy to play firemage badly |
| 09:34.06 | dieck | 42k? I really have to optimize my gameplay (w/o orange :)) |
| 09:34.26 | znf | did it at 1.8~2.0 sec just to make sure the server aknowledges me in the phasing thingie |
| 09:34.43 | Mikk | also firemages are the masters of rng |
| 09:34.52 | Mikk | so you want to look at a couple of weeks' worth of fights really |
| 09:35.00 | znf | she's been crap all over the place :P |
| 09:35.04 | Megalon | and you are in the 95% quartile znf :P |
| 09:35.08 | znf | I understand RNG. |
| 09:35.13 | Mikk | nods |
| 09:35.20 | znf | I get it... but from 46k DPS to 37k DPS?!?? |
| 09:35.20 | Mikk | just pointing out that firemages are extra rng |
| 09:35.26 | znf | no RNG does that, c'mon |
| 09:35.30 | Mikk | that can definitely happen for firemages |
| 09:35.35 | znf | on a constant basis? :P |
| 09:35.37 | Mikk | no |
| 09:36.21 | znf | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-9fq9gy3d3hxm6zil/sum/damageDone/?s=9370&e=9713 |
| 09:36.35 | Mikk | (just to explain: they need to crit twice in a row for pyro procs which is a big part of their dps.. bit of bad luck and it's crit noncrit crit noncrit crit noncrit crit noncrit -whaaaa mommy where's my pyros) |
| 09:36.37 | sbu | znf: simcraft tells me something about 38k dps, doing more actually... :p |
| 09:37.06 | znf | sbu, stop cheating then |
| 09:37.14 | znf | sbu, use the mindspike priority list :P |
| 09:37.16 | znf | action list, I mean |
| 09:37.20 | Megalon | then submit your action list sbu :P |
| 09:37.22 | sbu | maybe i should adjust the "skill" from good to elite :/ |
| 09:37.29 | znf | ah... |
| 09:37.29 | znf | >_< |
| 09:37.34 | znf | I always compare against elite |
| 09:37.52 | znf | There's no point in comparing to anything else, really. Compare against the best your gear can do. |
| 09:38.11 | sbu | need MS actionlist again... :| |
| 09:38.37 | sbu | ah nvm, there it is |
| 09:39.27 | sbu | znf: http://pastebin.com/DEdPM2vW ? |
| 09:39.44 | znf | can't remember |
| 09:39.47 | znf | I don't have it handy :D |
| 09:40.22 | Mikk | znf: her living bomb uptime isn't what it should be |
| 09:40.35 | znf | Mikk, I know she's a dumb bitch |
| 09:40.36 | Mikk | also missed a flame orb cd |
| 09:40.53 | sbu | znf: nice boobies? |
| 09:40.54 | Mikk | wait.. doublechecking |
| 09:40.58 | Mikk | Sesostris? |
| 09:40.58 | znf | sbu, no idea |
| 09:41.01 | sbu | meh |
| 09:41.08 | znf | Mikk, no, Hypnotika |
| 09:41.10 | Mikk | oh |
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| 09:41.17 | Mikk | well she was doing 40k |
| 09:41.23 | Mikk | not 37 |
| 09:41.26 | znf | 39.9! |
| 09:41.31 | znf | my bad, confused mages around |
| 09:41.38 | sbu | 40k isn't that bad actually? |
| 09:41.51 | znf | she should be doing 46.6 :P |
| 09:42.05 | znf | also, I wouldn't be pissed if she would do that damage every time |
| 09:42.11 | znf | but 9/10 times she's uber-crap |
| 09:42.34 | znf | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-a9tphkyaq677bmbs/sum/damageDone/?s=2522&e=3030 |
| 09:42.39 | znf | You can't tell me that's good fire mage dps |
| 09:42.41 | znf | at yorshaj |
| 09:42.50 | znf | where she should be topping everyone by a huge margin |
| 09:43.10 | Mikk | not really |
| 09:43.13 | sbu | well but.. |
| 09:43.15 | sbu | why playing fire? |
| 09:43.19 | Mikk | you're going by #1 WoL parses now |
| 09:43.29 | Mikk | and i can guarantee you that the same mages that are top10 |
| 09:43.32 | sbu | when arcane is much more reliable dps!? |
| 09:43.34 | Mikk | are also down in the middle next week |
| 09:44.04 | Mikk | no pyro ticking when it's time to combustion the adds? sorry, your dps goes poop |
| 09:44.05 | sbu | well, fire could do some more hour of twilight soaks.. but seriously, why fire? |
| 09:44.19 | znf | Mikk, http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Dragon_Soul/Yor'sahj_the_Unsleeping/25H/Fire_Mage/?page=5 |
| 09:44.27 | znf | let's take it by #200 WoL rank, then :) |
| 09:44.30 | sbu | yes, what Mikk says |
| 09:44.43 | sbu | bad luck with procs/debuffs => no dps at all |
| 09:44.51 | sbu | gets even worse on yorsahj |
| 09:45.19 | sbu | you have like ~5s to get your debuffs/combustion/dot spreading stuff right |
| 09:45.32 | sbu | otherwise your dps will suck |
| 09:45.32 | znf | like I said, I wouldn't be pissed off if she would be on-par 9 out of 10 fights... |
| 09:45.47 | sbu | its fire, make it like 5 out of 10 fights |
| 09:45.48 | znf | but she does "good" DPS 1 out of 10 fights |
| 09:45.56 | znf | consistently being low |
| 09:46.33 | Mikk | i'm with sbu.. if they're toppish 5 out of 10 fights.. that's about right |
| 09:47.08 | sbu | if you want more stable dps values => arcane |
| 09:47.10 | Mikk | fire really is stupidly stupidly rng |
| 09:47.13 | Mikk | idd |
| 09:47.19 | sbu | maybe you wont have 45k spikes |
| 09:47.24 | znf | well, she's not toppish 5 out of 10 fights :D |
| 09:47.25 | sbu | but also you wont have 35k |
| 09:47.32 | znf | she's bottomish 1 out of 10 fights :D |
| 09:47.37 | znf | erm |
| 09:47.38 | Mikk | yeah that's wrong |
| 09:47.41 | znf | she's bottomish 9 out of 10 fights :D |
| 09:47.42 | znf | my bad |
| 09:47.54 | sbu | znf: 38k on "patchwork" fight in simcraft now :( |
| 09:48.06 | znf | sbu, put ultraxion not patchwork :P |
| 09:48.09 | Mikk | really though... set up simcraft for her on a fight of KNOWN length |
| 09:48.09 | sbu | so simcraft fails or my action list isn#t that good |
| 09:48.16 | sbu | oh |
| 09:48.21 | sbu | ultraxion is in, wtf |
| 09:48.26 | sbu | whats the difference? |
| 09:48.32 | Mikk | sbu: need to stop casting |
| 09:48.46 | sbu | so dps is even lower then, meh :) |
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| 09:49.14 | Mikk | zfn: setup a fight of a known length in simcraft. compare to a real fight. get counts of spells cast. compare. |
| 09:49.27 | Mikk | if the counts are right, it's about when to use cooldowns |
| 09:49.34 | znf | I don't like the bitch that much to put that much work :D |
| 09:49.39 | Mikk | which ofc matters hugely - including prepotting |
| 09:50.07 | sbu | znf: maybe get pics first! |
| 09:50.18 | znf | sbu, if I remember corectly, she's fat |
| 09:50.28 | Mikk | better sex |
| 09:50.53 | Mikk | oh and one more not-so-obvious thing about firemages |
| 09:50.57 | Mikk | if they ever go low on mana |
| 09:51.00 | Mikk | mage armor |
| 09:51.07 | Mikk | and keep it running for a while |
| 09:51.13 | Mikk | not all firemages know that :P |
| 09:51.18 | sbu | and meh#2, i need a proper shadow/4p13 actionlist |
| 09:51.33 | sbu | if you go low on mana as firemage |
| 09:51.36 | quiescens | just press random buttons |
| 09:51.37 | sbu | you are doing it wrong! :p |
| 09:51.45 | Mikk | nono, fire will go low in a sustained nuke |
| 09:51.48 | Mikk | that's a fact |
| 09:51.50 | sbu | presses some random buttons on quiescens |
| 09:51.56 | quiescens | dies. |
| 09:52.01 | Mikk | some firemages respond to that by scorching more which is a major dps loss compared to going mage armor |
| 09:52.08 | Mikk | granted ultraxion is not long enough to go low on mana |
| 09:52.15 | Mikk | deathwing is though |
| 09:52.20 | quiescens | maybe they has really low dps |
| 09:52.57 | Mikk | so... nuke til 5% mana, mage armor, keep til like 20% mana, switch armor again |
| 09:53.11 | Mikk | dont want to switch too often. dps loss =) |
| 09:53.17 | sbu | znf: now its 37k dps :) *stabs simcraft* |
| 09:53.27 | znf | more itinerations |
| 09:53.32 | Mikk | upgrade recently? |
| 09:53.43 | sbu | think so, last week |
| 09:53.49 | Mikk | copy znf's actionlist? |
| 09:53.57 | sbu | he didn't provide his list :p |
| 09:54.01 | znf | I'm doing the default ones :P |
| 09:54.11 | Mikk | upgrade again sbu :P |
| 09:54.12 | quiescens | maybe you should stop trying so hard to find something to blame them for! |
| 09:54.50 | Mikk | znf: oh and one more thing... fire has hastecaps also. but the sites aren't very useful telling us which ones are actually good. |
| 09:55.28 | Mikk | and frankly, i'm starting to think that simcraft doesn't do ignite munching correctly even though it states that it does |
| 09:56.13 | Mikk | because i experimented with setting crit to near 100% on a firemage and adding in instants to avoid ignite munching |
| 09:56.15 | Mikk | and dps went down |
| 09:57.03 | Mikk | or maybe i just did it wrong ofc |
| 09:57.57 | sbu | Mikk: last version is "feb 10" |
| 09:58.02 | sbu | so no update at all |
| 09:59.01 | znf | is impressed by how much stuff can fit in OpenWRT |
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| 10:04.09 | Mikk | znf running what version of simc? |
| 10:04.27 | znf | 432-2 |
| 10:06.15 | Mikk | well then you indeed have the same |
| 10:06.29 | Mikk | sbu forgetting to tell simc that you have all raidbuffs or something? |
| 10:06.42 | sbu | i dont have all raidbuffs actually :p |
| 10:06.50 | sbu | no 10% sp, no dark intent, no focus magic |
| 10:07.14 | znf | don't have FM either :P |
| 10:07.28 | znf | but I am getting fed sometimes by the disc priests :P |
| 10:07.29 | znf | with PI |
| 10:07.34 | Mikk | well.. outperforming simcraft means you're missing something tbh |
| 10:07.43 | quiescens | hax |
| 10:07.48 | sbu | Mikk: yes... |
| 10:07.56 | sbu | or maybe really lucky day |
| 10:08.08 | sbu | 50% crit or whatever |
| 10:08.19 | Mikk | you can easily see if that's the case |
| 10:08.32 | sbu | i know :P |
| 10:08.42 | Mikk | like i said, take your known fight. tell simcraft same length. run. compare spell counts. |
| 10:08.47 | Mikk | compare damage per spelll |
| 10:08.51 | sbu | will do later |
| 10:08.51 | Mikk | see crit ratios |
| 10:08.52 | sbu | lunchtime |
| 10:09.01 | quiescens | alternatively |
| 10:09.32 | quiescens | shrug your shoulders, mumble a "meh", and forget about it |
| 10:10.02 | Mikk | na i'd be annoyed as heck if i was outperforming simcraft :P |
| 10:16.25 | vithos | i tried to make a log parser to study munch/roll for hunters |
| 10:16.55 | vithos | couldn't make sense of it |
| 10:20.36 | vithos | i'd love to see how blizzard's simulators model it |
| 10:21.46 | quiescens | magic |
| 10:24.42 | Mikk | doubt blizzard needs to use simulators |
| 10:24.44 | Mikk | they have the real thing |
| 10:43.32 | sbu | Mikk: it seems to be crit, 20% mindspike vs. 40% |
| 10:43.46 | Mikk | 20% in the sim? |
| 10:44.00 | sbu | yep |
| 10:44.03 | Mikk | that's.... wrong |
| 10:44.18 | sbu | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/4hrb1t3gdmcp6ja4/sum/damageDone/?s=7267&e=7555 |
| 10:44.21 | sbu | thats the "real" log |
| 10:46.09 | Mikk | granted, it's not very many mindspikes so burnphase could certainly offset you by quite a bit |
| 10:47.10 | Stanzilla | wtf are you guys doing now |
| 10:47.44 | sbu | trying not to do real work here :p |
| 10:47.53 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 10:48.14 | Mikk | Stanzilla: analyzing why sbu does more dps than simc :P |
| 10:48.51 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 10:57.24 | Megalon | because hax |
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| 12:49.25 | harl | hi |
| 12:55.16 | quiescens | o/ |
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| 14:36.34 | Funkeh` | hmm notepad++ v6 released |
| 14:37.12 | Stanzilla | nothing new in it |
| 14:37.47 | Torhal | Sublime Text 2 IMHO. |
| 14:38.02 | Funkeh` | maybe not for you, "enhance the loading performance of large file" sounds really good to me for reading those long transcriptor logs :) |
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| 14:39.27 | Torhal | Funkeh`: BTW: The fix was pushed; if you'll notice, it's a different error for Repo. The issue now is there's a crash and the bot is auto-restarted. |
| 14:39.40 | Torhal | Very sexy. |
| 14:39.42 | Torhal | :/ |
| 14:40.15 | Funkeh` | It's still missing from the channel btw |
| 14:44.41 | *** topic/#wowace by Funkeh` -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Recent changes: http://kb.wowace.com/recent-changes/ | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | Reducing StaticPopup taint: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=320963 |
| 14:46.34 | *** topic/#wowace by Funkeh` -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | Reducing StaticPopup taint: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=320963 |
| 14:49.07 | quiescens | plus you killed repo again ): |
| 14:49.09 | quiescens | poor repo |
| 14:49.09 | Torhal | Funkeh`: Yah, you banned it before it could sort itself out. |
| 14:49.17 | Torhal | Anywho - to the office. |
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| 15:30.17 | haste | I sense a hint of sarcasm in Mikk's signature |
| 15:35.27 | Mikk | just a bit |
| 15:36.21 | Mikk | it's so awesome. if someone forum pm's "mikk", i cannot see it. |
| 15:36.29 | Mikk | + my forum mod privs are tied to "mikk" |
| 15:36.49 | Stanzilla | and Kaelten never fixed it |
| 15:36.52 | Stanzilla | that bastard! |
| 15:37.30 | Mikk | he's the one that broke it initially when he tried to rename "dpsgnome" to "mikk" |
| 15:37.39 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 15:37.57 | Mikk | i'm "mikk" everywhere else on the site |
| 15:38.00 | Mikk | but not on forums |
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| 15:40.00 | Mikk | http://forums.wowace.com/member.php?u=62492 still exists though |
| 15:42.31 | bluspacecow | you are |
| 15:42.37 | bluspacecow | *dons sunglasses* |
| 15:42.43 | bluspacecow | the gnome formerly known as mikk |
| 15:42.49 | Mikk | odear |
| 15:43.37 | haste | editing the DB is hard. |
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| 16:20.28 | nevcairiel | "Mikk has not made any friends yet" .. poor Mikk |
| 16:20.51 | Mikk | what can i say.. curse ain't facebook/gplus :P |
| 16:21.58 | Mikk | nevcairiel: did you see what my taint ended up being a result of? |
| 16:22.14 | nevcairiel | that whisper dealy? |
| 16:22.16 | Mikk | ya |
| 16:22.19 | nevcairiel | thats why i dont use chat addons |
| 16:22.20 | Mikk | wtfs |
| 16:22.25 | Mikk | well see |
| 16:22.31 | Mikk | it does it with only ace2 installed and nothing else |
| 16:22.42 | nevcairiel | thats why i dont use ace2 |
| 16:22.44 | Mikk | haha |
| 16:22.45 | nevcairiel | i bet it does something bad |
| 16:23.00 | Mikk | well it also does it with ace2 disabled + everything else running |
| 16:23.01 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 16:23.16 | Mikk | but.. really.. working fine UNTIL i see a whisper |
| 16:23.19 | Funkeh` | can't say I've ever had a taint on whisper personally |
| 16:23.30 | Funkeh` | only the usual dropdown taints, that's about it |
| 16:23.31 | Mikk | at least you'd expect it to like.. always taint on chat |
| 16:23.34 | Mikk | but noo only whisper |
| 16:23.40 | nevcairiel | if you can clearly reproduce the cause, should be easy enough to find the problem |
| 16:24.09 | Mikk | well i see that chat filtering taints the execution path |
| 16:24.19 | Mikk | but that's expected |
| 16:24.32 | nevcairiel | taintlog 2 will also tell you any and every variable tainted in the chain |
| 16:24.33 | MysticalOS | I've seen WIM taint LFG functions it doesn't even use, god only knows how |
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| 16:25.10 | Mikk | because it tainted something else that tainted something else that etcetcetc and finally in the end LFG reads that variable |
| 16:25.12 | Funkeh` | It probably taints something that cascades onto that |
| 16:25.15 | Mikk | taint spreads rampant and in funny ways |
| 16:25.47 | Mikk | alot of this would not be a problem if blizzard stopped protecting functions that really only require a hw event |
| 16:25.51 | Mikk | like oh raidflares |
| 16:26.11 | MysticalOS | yeah, wim did use a lot of StaticPopupDialogs so i put the index 3 thing in last night just to humor it. |
| 16:26.12 | Mikk | or glyphs |
| 16:26.16 | Mikk | wtf are they protected for |
| 16:26.38 | Funkeh` | Automatically managing glyphs per boss? |
| 16:26.42 | Mikk | and? |
| 16:26.46 | Funkeh` | EVUL |
| 16:26.47 | Mikk | what's wrong with that? |
| 16:26.50 | nevcairiel | hw event would clear that up pretty much |
| 16:26.54 | Mikk | i can do that with talents already |
| 16:27.11 | Mikk | it would still need 1 hw event per glyph change |
| 16:27.13 | Mikk | and cant do it in combat |
| 16:27.14 | Mikk | so eh |
| 16:27.33 | Funkeh` | I don't know, it only makes sense when it gives another player an advantage over one, in this case, it just reduces lazyness |
| 16:27.33 | pompy | lol wtf.. im clicking the 'add friend' button and its saying "[12:26:42 PM]You can't put yourself on your friend list." without bringing up the dialog |
| 16:27.49 | nevcairiel | dont target yourself |
| 16:27.57 | pompy | oh ok |
| 16:27.57 | pompy | >< |
| 16:28.02 | Mikk | points & giggles |
| 16:28.03 | pompy | when did they add that |
| 16:28.07 | Mikk | always |
| 16:28.15 | Mikk | just the first time you managed to do it while targetting yourself |
| 16:28.20 | pompy | yessir |
| 16:28.25 | nevcairiel | although they could really just make it open the dialog instead of giving that message |
| 16:28.33 | Mikk | very true |
| 16:32.21 | Mikk | wonder if i have access to us beta forums .... |
| 16:34.16 | Mikk | maybe if i create char on US beta realm... |
| 16:37.04 | MysticalOS | did they finally make EU beta forums? there weren't any MoP forums there at first |
| 16:37.34 | Funkeh` | why would thet |
| 16:37.36 | Funkeh` | they* |
| 16:37.43 | MysticalOS | people were making trial accounts and posting on non beta US forums to submit feedback on tech support forums |
| 16:37.54 | znf | trial accounts can post on the forum?! |
| 16:38.09 | MysticalOS | tech support and customer service forums are non restriction forums |
| 16:38.13 | MysticalOS | for trial accounts |
| 16:38.14 | znf | Oh. |
| 16:38.18 | znf | didn't know that |
| 16:39.05 | znf | You're "Omegal"? |
| 16:39.09 | znf | omg, you're an MVP? :o |
| 16:39.16 | znf | can I touch you? :o |
| 16:39.17 | MysticalOS | yeah |
| 16:39.20 | MysticalOS | pssht |
| 16:39.28 | MysticalOS | there aer so many greens now it's almost irrelevent |
| 16:39.31 | Mikk | even if they were to make EU beta forums |
| 16:39.35 | Mikk | i know exactly how much they'll be reading them |
| 16:39.46 | znf | I have mixed feelings about playing the beta tbh |
| 16:39.46 | Mikk | holds up thumb and finger.. veeery closely |
| 16:39.57 | znf | I can't possibly play with their default crap UI :-| |
| 16:40.13 | Mikk | I'm not exactly playing it... having some monk fun.. will use it for addon testing mostly when that goes live |
| 16:40.35 | znf | Wish I could make the fuckin' bars not switch when changing stances / forms |
| 16:40.40 | znf | that's the most annoying feature of the UI for me |
| 16:40.42 | MysticalOS | actually the mac devs would read the mac eu beta forums if they existed. or i'd be on their ass about it, since they didn't read the mac beta forums on US forums during cata beta til the very end, when i mentioned they were there. they were like "really?" |
| 16:40.50 | Stanzilla | I actually use that, znf |
| 16:41.10 | znf | I don't, I would like an option to turn it off :-/ |
| 16:41.21 | Mikk | BOLLOCKS! |
| 16:41.25 | Stanzilla | why don't you use it? |
| 16:41.26 | Mikk | having char on beta server isn't enough |
| 16:41.27 | Mikk | =( |
| 16:41.40 | znf | Stanzilla, I see no use for it |
| 16:41.45 | Stanzilla | Mikk: better than not being in the beta at all! |
| 16:41.49 | MysticalOS | if only those creative people weren't queuing the ne 5 mans then dying on purpose to exploit exploring pandaria |
| 16:41.50 | MysticalOS | sigh |
| 16:41.51 | bluspacecow | i thought they had EU beta forms now |
| 16:41.55 | Stanzilla | znf: having buttons not visible when you can't use them |
| 16:42.03 | Mikk | bluspacecow: yeah.. they read them though? HAH |
| 16:42.12 | znf | even if I'm out of shadowform, I still want to cast my shadow spells |
| 16:42.17 | znf | when I press the buttons |
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| 16:42.32 | bluspacecow | the croc appears to think differently |
| 16:42.48 | Stanzilla | znf: why? it's not viable |
| 16:42.50 | znf | as a priest I can cast all shadow spells even out of shadow form |
| 16:42.53 | znf | Stanzilla, questing |
| 16:42.59 | Stanzilla | dafuq |
| 16:43.03 | MysticalOS | don't worry, no one reads the UI/macro forums, any of them |
| 16:43.03 | MysticalOS | heh |
| 16:43.15 | Stanzilla | cancel shadow form, heal up, shadow form, gogo |
| 16:43.31 | znf | or just press alt+1 and heal myself, then shadowform back |
| 16:43.47 | znf | why should I cancel shadowform to be able to heal myself in the first place? |
| 16:43.57 | znf | cast healing spell, gets me out of shadowform anyway *shrug* |
| 16:44.01 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 16:44.22 | Stanzilla | meh, I use bindpad anyway |
| 16:44.33 | Stanzilla | I'm not a very bar dependend person |
| 16:44.37 | znf | I have a weird keybind setup anyway :P |
| 16:45.01 | znf | my spam spell is on "8" :> |
| 16:45.13 | Stanzilla | dafuwq |
| 16:45.20 | znf | I've started playing on a laptop |
| 16:45.26 | znf | and I raided all WoTLK on a laptop |
| 16:45.31 | znf | yes, without a mouse ;) |
| 16:45.52 | znf | once you get used to touchpads, you can do pretty much anything on it :D |
| 16:46.08 | znf | heck, I had a period when I played counter-strike on the touchpad :D |
| 16:46.48 | Mikk | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3553607148#1 |
| 16:46.58 | znf | so, considering that I used to move around with my thumbs on the touchpad, my spam spell (mind flay) was on the "8" button. |
| 16:47.48 | MysticalOS | nice |
| 16:47.58 | znf | Mikk, I don't understand at all why are they protecting the glyph ui |
| 16:48.04 | Mikk | same |
| 16:48.07 | znf | I mean, you can't change the glyph in combat |
| 16:48.12 | znf | So what the hell is the point? :-| |
| 16:48.27 | MysticalOS | to taint the UI from uidropdown |
| 16:48.41 | znf | I can partly understand the raid flares, but even that doesn't make sense |
| 16:48.51 | sbu | yes it does :p |
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| 16:48.57 | Mikk | how so |
| 16:49.07 | sbu | protecting or tainting? |
| 16:49.10 | znf | Why? like Mikk said, you need to use the green-target-thingie |
| 16:49.16 | MysticalOS | i like 4.3's work around for raid flare, they added direct keybinds to get to them without menus |
| 16:49.24 | znf | they did? |
| 16:49.25 | sbu | MysticalOS: oh? |
| 16:49.28 | Mikk | MysticalOS: no they didn't. they added macro commands. |
| 16:49.29 | znf | meh, OPie :P |
| 16:49.36 | znf | OPie is awesome :P |
| 16:50.11 | Mikk | @project raidflarebinding |
| 16:50.14 | Mikk | maybe that's what you're remembering |
| 16:50.21 | Mikk | but it really is macro commands that they added |
| 16:50.31 | znf | well, it was about time |
| 16:50.36 | Mikk | which work until we somehow taint the macro handling system :P |
| 16:50.41 | znf | took them long enough that not everyone uses their shitty UI |
| 16:50.53 | znf | to realize* |
| 16:50.54 | Mikk | EITHER WAY - it's senseless that those functions are protected |
| 16:51.04 | Mikk | the worst they should ever need is hwevent |
| 16:51.10 | Mikk | maybe even completely unprotected |
| 16:51.34 | Funkeh` | unprotect world markers? |
| 16:51.40 | Mikk | yes |
| 16:51.43 | Funkeh` | you wish |
| 16:51.46 | Mikk | why not |
| 16:51.54 | Mikk | addons will never be able to place them |
| 16:52.00 | Funkeh` | They don't want people to feel they "depend" on addons |
| 16:52.01 | Mikk | you need to reticule+leftclick to place |
| 16:52.05 | Funkeh` | even though with bossmods you kinda do |
| 16:52.16 | Mikk | so user interaction will always be required |
| 16:52.23 | Funkeh` | having a mod that makes a boss strategy 10 tiems easier would make people feel they HAD to have it |
| 16:52.32 | Mikk | ADDONS CANT PLACE WORLD MARKERS |
| 16:52.47 | znf | <Mikk> ADDONS CANT PLACE WORLD MARKERS |
| 16:52.48 | znf | !!! |
| 16:52.55 | Funkeh` | You were suggesting completely unprotecting them |
| 16:52.57 | Mikk | and? |
| 16:53.02 | Mikk | still need aim+leftclick |
| 16:53.06 | Mikk | addon can't do that |
| 16:53.42 | Funkeh` | You'd be surprised by what we could cook up based on map coordinates and facing |
| 16:53.59 | Mikk | still can't leftclick to place it |
| 16:54.10 | nevcairiel | you dont have camera information anymore |
| 16:54.17 | Megalon | cooking up a schnitzel is enough for me |
| 16:54.21 | nevcairiel | the ban of AVR made sure of that |
| 16:54.45 | znf | So from who are they protecting it from? |
| 16:54.51 | Mikk | i mean yeah an addon can easily assist you by going "exactly as you are facing, max distance, place it" |
| 16:54.52 | znf | Bots will be able to use it anyway and click stuff :P |
| 16:54.54 | Mikk | but it can do that today also |
| 16:55.07 | Mikk | the only thing unprotecting the API would do is allow the addon to fire up the reticule |
| 16:55.41 | Stanzilla | Megalon: want |
| 16:55.48 | znf | completely offtopic, this is PORN: http://www.meh.ro/2012/03/26/1963-buick-riviera/ |
| 16:55.49 | znf | drools |
| 16:55.58 | nevcairiel | speaking of targeting in 3d world, MoP has a "cast aoe on target" hotkey. :d |
| 16:56.17 | MysticalOS | :o |
| 16:56.26 | Stanzilla | what |
| 16:56.29 | znf | nevcairiel, and how would that work? |
| 16:56.35 | nevcairiel | its a modifier, really |
| 16:56.38 | nevcairiel | hold it down, press cast |
| 16:56.50 | MysticalOS | if you tab during cast will it move it? |
| 16:56.56 | MysticalOS | or cancel? |
| 16:57.07 | znf | that's interesting |
| 16:57.09 | nevcairiel | isnt most targeted aoe instant? |
| 16:57.16 | znf | but I'm a priest... *shrug* |
| 16:57.16 | nevcairiel | i mean, ground targeted |
| 16:57.18 | Stanzilla | rain of fire? |
| 16:57.19 | znf | mind sear ftw |
| 16:57.24 | MysticalOS | hurricane, blizzard |
| 16:57.24 | Stanzilla | blizzard |
| 16:57.27 | Stanzilla | all channeled |
| 16:57.35 | nevcairiel | still, instant |
| 16:57.41 | nevcairiel | only something with cast-time would ever move |
| 16:57.46 | nevcairiel | cant move an existing cast |
| 16:58.01 | znf | D&D is instant |
| 16:58.02 | Stanzilla | so what does the modifier do exactly? |
| 16:58.07 | znf | death and decay |
| 16:58.13 | nevcairiel | you dont need to target in 3d |
| 16:58.21 | nevcairiel | target mob, press key, aoe starts over mobs head |
| 16:58.26 | Stanzilla | oh ok |
| 16:58.27 | znf | interesting |
| 16:58.54 | nevcairiel | priests dont care, but other aoe that needs ground targeting is otherwise pretty annoying =P |
| 16:59.09 | znf | I only care when the tank moves out of the middle of the mobs |
| 16:59.12 | znf | that annoys the fuck out of me :D |
| 16:59.14 | groktar | that's pretty sweep |
| 16:59.17 | groktar | *sweet |
| 16:59.35 | groktar | mass dispel awesomeness |
| 16:59.49 | znf | oh yeah, would that work with mass dispell, too, nevcairiel? |
| 16:59.55 | nevcairiel | how would i know |
| 16:59.58 | nevcairiel | fire up the beta and test |
| 17:00.06 | nevcairiel | has no priest |
| 17:00.08 | groktar | wtb beta |
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| 17:00.18 | Stanzilla | same |
| 17:00.25 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: let me play with your account, thx! |
| 17:00.32 | nevcairiel | still has no priest |
| 17:00.39 | Stanzilla | I'll level one! |
| 17:00.50 | znf | I don't have beta |
| 17:00.51 | sbu | nevcairiel: whats the modifier? |
| 17:01.03 | sbu | or... where |
| 17:01.05 | nevcairiel | dunno if it has a default key |
| 17:01.05 | znf | nevcairiel, there's premades! |
| 17:01.13 | nevcairiel | znf: not enabled yet last i checked |
| 17:01.16 | znf | ow |
| 17:01.19 | groktar | hmm, i wonder if my annual pass got borked |
| 17:01.30 | groktar | dumb bank cancelled my credit card last tuesday |
| 17:01.43 | groktar | right before the billing cycle |
| 17:02.03 | nevcairiel | sbu: <ModifiedClick action="CASTAOEONTARGET" default="CTRL"/> |
| 17:02.14 | groktar | (they thought there was fraudulent activity and cancelled it instead of freezing it and calling me first) |
| 17:02.24 | MysticalOS | i believe in fine print somewhere they will not reset your annual pass signup within a 3 day business day grace of a billing laps, if you correct it. although i don't remember reading that |
| 17:02.43 | MysticalOS | where reading* |
| 17:03.16 | sbu | mh doesn't work |
| 17:03.18 | groktar | eek been 5 days now |
| 17:03.34 | nevcairiel | that would only be an issue if your billing cycle is like ... right now |
| 17:03.46 | groktar | Game Time |
| 17:03.46 | groktar | Expired: 3/21/2012 3:23 AM |
| 17:03.59 | groktar | D: |
| 17:04.56 | Mikk | RLY BAD TIMING |
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| 17:06.40 | sbu | so its 1. doesn't work with mass dispel or 2. doesn't work at all |
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| 17:33.36 | nevcairiel | might get fixed in the future |
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| 17:48.10 | Stanzilla | fixes nevcairiel |
| 17:50.25 | Torhal|work | spays Stanzilla. |
| 17:50.31 | Stanzilla | with what? |
| 17:52.21 | znf | Anyone good at figuring fonts? :P |
| 17:52.33 | znf | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/120650/myfonts_wut.png <--- I know this is a common font, yet I can't figure out which one it is :D |
| 17:53.34 | groktar | arial narrow maybe? |
| 17:53.44 | groktar | idk |
| 17:54.24 | znf | nah, the M is not like that |
| 17:59.20 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: Megalon. |
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| 18:06.02 | sbu | znf: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/suitcase/atrament/std-medium/ maybe? |
| 18:08.34 | znf | *sigh* |
| 18:08.40 | znf | no, WhatTheFont is wrong |
| 18:08.48 | znf | check the G and the S shape |
| 18:12.09 | Primer | Hello fellow shadow priests. I need more help znf...I still fail at SP |
| 18:12.20 | znf | I be raiding |
| 18:12.27 | znf | while I'm actually doing a poster |
| 18:12.39 | Primer | Do you ever stream? |
| 18:15.09 | Primer | guess not |
| 18:15.27 | sbu | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.28 | sbu | i has none |
| 18:16.02 | znf | Primer, no |
| 18:16.58 | Primer | Anyhow, if anyone has any advice, I'd be grateful: 1) Do you let VT fall off ever? Are there times when you do, times when you don't? 2) Same as #1, but for DP. 3) When do I know the last tick of MF has happened? Do I just wait til the channel bar empties completely? |
| 18:17.09 | sbu | dont |
| 18:17.14 | sbu | just dont |
| 18:18.19 | Primer | I wish I could find a modern guide |
| 18:18.31 | sbu | http://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=30303 |
| 18:18.40 | sbu | why do you know the last mf clip? |
| 18:18.42 | sbu | errr tick |
| 18:18.52 | sbu | just refresh VT / DP few seconds before they expire |
| 18:18.57 | Primer | because I have a feeling I'm casting the next spell too early |
| 18:19.06 | sbu | no need to wait for last mf tick if the next spell is mf |
| 18:19.12 | Primer | because for my gear I should be doing way more DPS |
| 18:19.21 | sbu | do you have logs? |
| 18:19.32 | Primer | yes, sec |
| 18:20.25 | Primer | http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/175779/ |
| 18:20.37 | Primer | haven't uploaded last week's logs...doing that now |
| 18:21.20 | sbu | there is no shadow on ultraxion! |
| 18:22.27 | Primer | I might have healed it |
| 18:22.44 | sbu | meh! |
| 18:23.18 | Primer | ok, last week's raid uploaded |
| 18:23.40 | Primer | we had to bypass 2 heroics since we were carrying a very badly geared elemental shaman, and had 2 pugs |
| 18:23.56 | Primer | and our top DPS quit |
| 18:24.21 | Primer | lock that was consistently ranking in the top 10 for his spec |
| 18:27.06 | sbu | sec, spine... |
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| 20:09.23 | Stanzilla | I just shadowed on ultraxion |
| 20:10.17 | sbu | oh |
| 20:10.21 | sbu | right |
| 20:10.26 | sbu | sorry Primer :D |
| 20:10.37 | Primer | np |
| 20:10.50 | Primer | Stanzilla: how'd you do? |
| 20:11.31 | Stanzilla | bad, lacking support :( |
| 20:11.36 | Stanzilla | 44k or so |
| 20:11.36 | sbu | Primer: buff uptime is nice |
| 20:11.48 | sbu | so hmmm |
| 20:11.53 | Primer | man, I'm really doing something wrong |
| 20:12.05 | Primer | Stanzilla: I'm guessing you're one of the people that stays out? |
| 20:12.14 | Primer | considering Dispersion is pretty OP for that |
| 20:12.18 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:12.22 | Stanzilla | 2 and 5 |
| 20:13.01 | sbu | errr Primer |
| 20:13.04 | sbu | 18.2% hit |
| 20:13.05 | sbu | seriously???? |
| 20:13.15 | sbu | arg, pvp stuff :() |
| 20:13.20 | sbu | nevermind.... |
| 20:13.23 | Primer | I must have logged in disc spec |
| 20:13.29 | Primer | in shadow I'm exactly 17% |
| 20:13.33 | sbu | okay |
| 20:13.47 | Primer | and everything else reforged to crit |
| 20:13.49 | sbu | Stanzilla: 44k is bad? :( |
| 20:13.54 | sbu | to crit??? |
| 20:13.57 | Primer | well |
| 20:14.05 | Primer | that was based on someone's recommendation |
| 20:14.07 | sbu | crit is the worst stat at all |
| 20:14.28 | sbu | mastery/haste |
| 20:14.33 | Primer | Let me log out in shadow gear and spec |
| 20:15.41 | Stanzilla | sbu: yeah |
| 20:16.07 | Stanzilla | well it's decent |
| 20:16.49 | Gnarfoz | I regularily do 18k on Ultraxion! |
| 20:16.57 | Primer | there |
| 20:17.02 | Stanzilla | as a tank |
| 20:17.05 | Primer | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Ihavenoidea/advanced |
| 20:17.21 | sbu | err go and reforge |
| 20:17.24 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: sshhhhh |
| 20:17.25 | Primer | dammit, I still haven't enchanted my offhand |
| 20:17.25 | sbu | crit -> mastery |
| 20:17.55 | sbu | Primer: 3202 haste, 17% hit, then mastery |
| 20:17.59 | sbu | WTF 3200 haste, HOW??? |
| 20:18.08 | Primer | crappy trinket |
| 20:18.36 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: actually got the opportunity the ID before this one to go DPS on Ultraxion because I couldn't raid on our normal days |
| 20:18.47 | Gnarfoz | 35.2 :( kind of disappointed |
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| 20:19.01 | Gnarfoz | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/wcs04m0bnatcn3bs/sum/damageDone/?s=8309&e=8639 |
| 20:19.13 | Primer | reforges |
| 20:20.05 | sbu | mhhh one sec Primer :D |
| 20:20.31 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I just killed warmaster heroic with some randoms |
| 20:20.37 | Stanzilla | sbu: i have 3250 haste! |
| 20:20.40 | sbu | maybe 2737 haste, 17% hit and everything else -> mastery is even better |
| 20:20.59 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: :( we only had time for like 5 pulls or something, didn't figure out anything :D |
| 20:21.06 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: ^^ |
| 20:21.07 | sbu | Stanzilla: i have 2583 haste |
| 20:21.15 | Stanzilla | sbu: yeah, mastery forger, you |
| 20:21.33 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: aber war lustig, war der held des abends weil monster dps! |
| 20:21.36 | sbu | well, cant get to 3202 at the moment |
| 20:21.44 | Gnarfoz | we're probably over-emphasizing barrage soaking |
| 20:21.54 | Stanzilla | we just ignored the small patches |
| 20:21.59 | Gnarfoz | :o |
| 20:22.05 | Stanzilla | and everyone went into the big ones |
| 20:22.20 | Gnarfoz | well, yes, but even on normal, if you ignore the small ones, the ship dies |
| 20:22.25 | Gnarfoz | how can that work on h eroic |
| 20:22.54 | Gnarfoz | (well, at least it did before nerfs, now they probably do 10% less dmg, 15% soon) |
| 20:23.25 | Primer | I've been using wowreforge's suggestions to maintain exactly 17% hit |
| 20:23.37 | Primer | so I have a lot of crap reforged to spirit |
| 20:23.49 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: dunno, we just take some that are unavoidale and the big ones |
| 20:23.53 | Stanzilla | works out pretty good |
| 20:24.58 | Primer | so I have a lot of crap reforged to spirit14.72 mastery |
| 20:25.06 | Primer | wtf |
| 20:25.20 | Primer | must have hit up arrow |
| 20:26.37 | Primer | Right now I'm at: 35.68% haste (3260 rating), 16.17% crit (752 rating), and 14.72 mastery (1205 rating) |
| 20:29.29 | Primer | Only items with haste that aren't already reforged are my cloak and a ring with spirit and mastery |
| 20:29.48 | Primer | cloak has haste, but if I took that off, it'd drop below 3200 |
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| 20:53.08 | Primer | hit the dummy for a bit...was bursting to 30k, sustaining 24-25 |
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| 21:17.22 | groktar | sorts quiescens |
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| 21:42.31 | Torhal|work | Funkeh`: Ok, last bug that had it going into a frenzy is both fixed and deployed. |
| 21:43.27 | groktar | D: |
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