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| 01:33.10 | pompy | (3/28/2012 9:26:33 PM) Repo: elvui: Elv22 master * v3.44-1-g77cf7ae ElvUI.toc: [+1 commit] fuck i'm drunk |
| 01:33.12 | pompy | noob |
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| 02:50.48 | quiescens | ! |
| 03:01.57 | Torhal | showers quiescens with gifts. |
| 03:02.03 | Torhal | Cutlery FTW! |
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| 04:33.45 | Repo | realid-toons: 03starinnia * r128 RealIDToons.toc: -poke to pickup new translations |
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| 06:48.17 | sbu | morgen! |
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| 07:43.02 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r861 BadBoy.lua: |
| 07:43.03 | Repo | Support patch 4.3.4 where ComplainChat is renamed to ReportPlayer, reports split into types: bad names/spamming/cheating/language/etc. Might add (optional) automatic bad name/language reporting.. hmm... |
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| 08:39.51 | znf | huh? patch 4.3.4? |
| 08:41.27 | sbu | finally cunning of the cruel, yay.. :o |
| 08:41.43 | sbu | so today the heroic thingy will drop, i can sense it |
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| 09:07.13 | znf | sbu, I got HC last night :D |
| 09:07.35 | znf | I got so lucky :D |
| 09:07.40 | znf | CrappyMage had more DKP than me |
| 09:07.47 | znf | but she spend it on a crit ring from morchok |
| 09:07.51 | znf | spent it* |
| 09:11.26 | sbu | znf: well if it drops today i will get it anyways |
| 09:11.59 | sbu | because our mages are somehow clever - well, i think so at least |
| 09:12.09 | sbu | see http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5mzmh6l7fqjyyn4c/spell/109798/?s=5170&e=5430 :p |
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| 09:15.13 | znf | isn't that a LFR run? :P |
| 09:15.39 | sbu | yup it is |
| 09:15.44 | znf | I'm not sure I get the point |
| 09:15.52 | sbu | but its shadow vs. mage for that trinket :p |
| 09:16.12 | znf | well, that trinket kicks ass for AoE scenario |
| 09:16.19 | znf | s |
| 09:16.33 | znf | @ yorshaj the damage is really impressive |
| 09:16.36 | sbu | nah, hits are bigger for shadows, thats why mage should pass for shadow when it drops :) |
| 09:16.50 | sbu | thats my point here :D |
| 09:17.11 | znf | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ak3r1tsvw1skb1tq/details/10/?s=3251&e=3750 |
| 09:17.29 | znf | huh? where did you get that? |
| 09:17.43 | sbu | the log i just posted |
| 09:17.57 | znf | that doesn't mean it procs / hits better for shadow |
| 09:18.01 | znf | it just scales with spellpower |
| 09:18.05 | sbu | oh |
| 09:18.09 | sbu | it does? |
| 09:18.11 | znf | yes :P |
| 09:18.20 | sbu | didn't know about that... |
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| 09:18.24 | znf | now you do :P |
| 09:18.34 | znf | link it to a melee class and ask them for how much it hits :> |
| 09:18.46 | znf | I mean, how much the tooltip says |
| 09:19.17 | znf | it's 27.7% of spellpower for LFR version, 31.3% normal, 35.3% heroic |
| 09:19.32 | znf | or it was before the change |
| 09:20.37 | znf | Last night Ultraxion: http://raidbots.com/comparebot/4f7398974b1cfb8b4100073b#damage |
| 09:20.38 | znf | :P |
| 09:20.52 | znf | Both me and zusna had the heroic trinket at that point |
| 09:21.06 | znf | mine hit for more |
| 09:21.20 | sbu | i see |
| 09:21.35 | sbu | 42k :( |
| 09:21.59 | znf | mhm, disc priest didn't love me last night :( |
| 09:22.00 | znf | no PI |
| 09:22.16 | znf | also, warlock did some silly shit or something |
| 09:22.21 | znf | DI uptime 89.3% :-/ |
| 09:23.55 | sbu | oh you got DI, well then |
| 09:24.38 | znf | I wouldn't raid without DI :D |
| 09:24.47 | sbu | 42k w/o DI is hard actually, need some serious lucky crits / legendary mindblast copies :D |
| 09:24.51 | sbu | :( |
| 09:24.56 | sbu | we don't have a lock |
| 09:25.15 | znf | the horrors of raiding 10man =( |
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| 09:26.27 | sbu | yup, last week we had no Dk - so had fun on the ship and no spell vulnerability debuff for other bosses |
| 09:26.47 | znf | this 15% nerf was really... something :-/ |
| 09:27.14 | znf | we killed Blackhorn 2 weeks ago for the first time |
| 09:27.19 | znf | then we couldn't repeat the "performance" |
| 09:27.24 | znf | last night we one-shot it |
| 09:27.39 | znf | last night we had the most terrible kills :D |
| 09:28.01 | sbu | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/dot3za0zzpnw40oq/sum/damageDone/?s=4486&e=4777 see what happens without spell debuff :( |
| 09:28.02 | znf | on morchok, one side was dead, and the other side killed it |
| 09:28.08 | znf | You do not have the required permissions to view this report. |
| 09:28.14 | sbu | oh |
| 09:28.31 | znf | @ zon'ozz our tank died at 20% :D |
| 09:28.38 | sbu | should work now |
| 09:28.48 | znf | imagine the kiting for those last HP points |
| 09:28.55 | znf | "screw the ball, kill boss!!!" :P |
| 09:29.02 | znf | no, still doesn't work |
| 09:29.24 | znf | on warmaster blackhorn, our tank died again at ~20-ish percent |
| 09:29.30 | znf | rogue and hunter tanks :D |
| 09:29.32 | sbu | now... :D |
| 09:29.47 | znf | woah |
| 09:29.54 | znf | how did a feral druid do so much dps? o.O |
| 09:30.13 | sbu | huh? |
| 09:30.17 | sbu | ferals are fine |
| 09:30.21 | znf | on ultraxion? |
| 09:30.25 | znf | kind of blows that they can't shred |
| 09:30.53 | znf | yeah, blows without a warlock/dk |
| 09:30.57 | znf | or boomkin |
| 09:33.42 | znf | off to save the galaxy in ME3! |
| 09:33.56 | sbu | again...? |
| 09:36.06 | znf | I'm not done :P |
| 09:38.03 | sbu | save the galaxy or just have some fun with the girls? :( |
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| 09:50.49 | sbu | heh |
| 09:50.52 | sbu | "We use Lua to parse our tooltips instead of writing a custom parser to save development time." :D |
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| 10:26.41 | Mikk | sbu: huh, where's that bullcrap statement from? =P |
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| 10:35.57 | sbu | Mikk: beta source |
| 10:36.13 | Mikk | boggle |
| 10:36.18 | sbu | SharedPetBattleTemplates.lua |
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| 10:50.10 | sbu | yes, moo indeed |
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| 13:21.43 | Repo | invitelinks: Add support for MoP, InviteUnit renamed to InviteToGroup. |
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| 16:28.33 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 16:57.31 | znf | O.O |
| 16:58.05 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:58.15 | Torhal|work | DAMN YOUR EYES! |
| 16:58.31 | quiescens | ): |
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| 17:45.23 | sbu | znf: trinket damage is scaling with shadowform |
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| 17:50.07 | Stanzilla | dafuq is goign on here captain sbu |
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| 17:56.06 | znf | sbu, that's weird |
| 17:56.12 | znf | sbu, does the tooltip update? |
| 18:00.54 | sbu | yup |
| 18:01.03 | sbu | 8300 vs. 9555 |
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| 18:04.08 | znf | just 9555? |
| 18:04.15 | znf | mine is... well |
| 18:04.16 | znf | larger :-/ |
| 18:04.45 | znf | 11237 damage |
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| 18:09.30 | znf | sbu, any ideas how does it work on Warlocks? |
| 18:09.32 | znf | does it scale with anything? |
| 18:10.25 | sbu | znf: errr, raidfinder!?!?!?!? |
| 18:10.37 | znf | oh :P |
| 18:10.48 | sbu | heroic is 12176 |
| 18:11.49 | znf | why is it larger for you? :D |
| 18:12.52 | sbu | more spellpower!? |
| 18:13.25 | sbu | okay, down to 11800 now |
| 18:13.56 | znf | oh? :P |
| 18:13.59 | znf | what did you do? |
| 18:16.57 | sbu | lose my int-stack! |
| 18:19.33 | znf | >_< |
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| 18:22.40 | dieck | hm. seems Buffalo finally stopped working here... attempt to call global 'UIFrameFlashRemoveFrame' (a nil value) |
| 18:23.05 | dieck | can anyone recommend a buff/debuff addon, where I can have my debuff scaled very big freely moveable? :) |
| 18:37.11 | dieck | ok. looks I replaced buffalo a long time ago with bison :) Now I just have to find out why it was active on that one char |
| 18:38.28 | nevcairiel | buffalos, bisons, all some sort of cow! |
| 18:45.00 | dieck | talking of it. are there rumors about a cow level in D3? :) |
| 18:47.19 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 19:19.57 | oscarucb | Whee... just found a memory leak in AceTimer |
| 19:20.52 | Stanzilla | blame Mikk or nevcairiel or both |
| 19:21.23 | Stanzilla | try nevcairiel first because he hates me :( |
| 19:22.46 | Torhal|work | oscarucb: Define "memory leak". |
| 19:22.56 | oscarucb | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/tickets/289-ace-timer-schedule-timer-leaks-memory/ |
| 19:23.16 | oscarucb | in a nutshell, one-shot timers are leaked after they fire |
| 19:23.17 | Torhal|work | Hawt |
| 19:23.26 | oscarucb | they are never reaped unless the client cancels them |
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| 19:58.10 | Mikk | i really doubt that |
| 20:01.49 | Mikk | oscarucb: timer.delay = (repeating and delay) |
| 20:01.56 | Mikk | .delay is false for single shot timers |
| 20:01.59 | Mikk | your analysis is wrong |
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| 20:18.21 | Megalon | delays by valve time |
| 20:21.01 | Ketho | ponders if Valve infiltrated CERN |
| 20:26.57 | oscarucb | I might have misunderstood the library code, but it's definitely leaking memory |
| 20:27.17 | oscarucb | I went looking for the bug because the memory was exploding :) |
| 20:28.13 | oscarucb | please reopen that bug - the memory leak is still there |
| 20:30.59 | sbu | fiskers Megalon |
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| 20:51.57 | Mikk | oscarucb: is it garbage collectable? |
| 20:52.50 | oscarucb | hmm i think i just found the problem |
| 20:53.29 | oscarucb | guess it was a false alarm after all |
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| 20:53.59 | oscarucb | sorry for the confusion |
| 20:54.20 | znf | blames oscarucb for everything |
| 20:55.05 | oscarucb | hides in shame |
| 20:59.39 | Mikk | grins |
| 21:00.12 | oscarucb | I'd still like to know what all that business in the docs about rescheduling timers is about |
| 21:00.36 | oscarucb | "allows easy dispatching and fast rescheduling. Timers can be registered, rescheduled or canceled at any time" |
| 21:01.31 | oscarucb | unless that's referring to repeating timers, I don't see any way a client can "reschedule" a timer |
| 21:09.56 | Mikk | that's repeating timers only yes |
| 21:10.16 | Mikk | basically, the design is for a system with shitloads of timers running |
| 21:10.23 | Mikk | it becomes a little bit more expensive per-frame |
| 21:10.28 | oscarucb | but even a repeating timer is not "rescheduled" by the client, its simply repeating |
| 21:10.32 | Mikk | but a LOT cheaper when inserting timers |
| 21:11.02 | Mikk | the naive implementation just keeps a sorted list |
| 21:11.06 | oscarucb | ie timers only have two states "running" and "canceled/dead" - theres no way to say "heres a timer that already fired, please schedule it again" |
| 21:11.11 | Mikk | no |
| 21:11.27 | znf | This is starting to get annoying. |
| 21:11.50 | znf | Did they provide any "official" explanation on how the god damn beta invites for the anual pass will be handed out? |
| 21:12.00 | Mikk | yes. and it's wrong. |
| 21:12.52 | znf | Any further explanation than "based on account age and when you subscribed to the anual pass"? |
| 21:12.57 | znf | Because I'm not buying that shit. |
| 21:13.15 | Torhal|work | You wouldn't buy shit, znf. |
| 21:13.29 | znf | well, technically I bought shit when I signed up for the anual pass |
| 21:13.32 | znf | "here, have beta!" |
| 21:13.45 | znf | "oh, no beta for you, yet, you will have to wait until the last week of the beta test to get in" |
| 21:14.36 | Torhal|work | I signed up for free Diablo. I knew I'd be paying anyway since I still work on AddOns. |
| 21:15.05 | znf | well, technically I signed up for the full package |
| 21:15.16 | znf | and the beta access was one of the selling points |
| 21:15.33 | oscarucb | is there going to be beta keys for addon authors like cata? |
| 21:15.44 | Mikk | znf: i subscribed to annual pass late as fuck. but my account is nearly day1 |
| 21:15.55 | Torhal|work | oscarucb: I'm sure there will be |
| 21:15.58 | Mikk | oscarucb: fairly safe assumption... but prolly not until addons are allowed |
| 21:16.10 | znf | I'm not sure if I should just stick the label of incompetency or not on their faces. They clearly know how many clients have signed up for the pass. |
| 21:16.30 | Mikk | and i got a beta in the first batch |
| 21:16.43 | Mikk | doublecheck: do you have "i want beta" checked in your profile? |
| 21:17.04 | znf | Judging by the pissed off people on the forums, I guess it's safe to assume that a lot of other people are in the same situation as me - signed up for the anual pass, but no invite |
| 21:17.06 | znf | Yeah, I do. |
| 21:17.33 | znf | My account is not that old, unfortunately. I've got into the game around patch 2.3 |
| 21:18.18 | znf | 14/03/08 N/AFree Month |
| 21:18.29 | oscarucb | While we're on the topic of AceTimer, does anyone else find it annoying that timers dont pop when the game is minimized? |
| 21:19.13 | znf | I would have been fine with the whole situation, except a friend of mine who hasn't been playing since 2010 has beta access... which completely pisses me off. |
| 21:19.49 | Ketho | at least we got ptr ._. |
| 21:20.06 | Talryn | znf: If they just went off of account creation date, then you only had to play for one month when WoW started. |
| 21:20.21 | Mikk | oscarucb: nothing to be done about it. blizzard pages everything out. on Lua code runs. |
| 21:20.38 | Mikk | if you want timers to run, run it windowed |
| 21:20.44 | oscarucb | thats not strictly true |
| 21:20.53 | oscarucb | OnEvent still runs for events |
| 21:21.00 | Mikk | oO |
| 21:21.04 | oscarucb | just no frames are drawn so no OnUpdate |
| 21:21.11 | Mikk | that certainly was not true when i last checked |
| 21:21.12 | znf | Talryn, it just sounds like a slap in the face to the current PAYING customers |
| 21:21.17 | Mikk | it paged EVERYTHING out |
| 21:21.28 | oscarucb | it pages it out if nothing is happenning |
| 21:21.38 | oscarucb | but if you're in combat you still get combat events |
| 21:21.39 | oscarucb | etc |
| 21:21.57 | Mikk | pretty sure those events arrive afterwards actually :P |
| 21:22.13 | Talryn | znf: It does seem wrong but they only mentioned account age/creation. I didn't see them mention how long your account has been active. |
| 21:22.29 | znf | yeah, "fine print" I guess |
| 21:22.46 | Mikk | but interesting question... background sound should be able to answer it |
| 21:23.01 | Talryn | I assume he's just very lucky. |
| 21:23.02 | znf | Blizzard has a really loyal fan base, but this will piss off a lot of people. |
| 21:23.03 | Mikk | or whisper bouncers |
| 21:23.06 | oscarucb | as an ez test, use ora3 to setup auto invites - I can minimize my game with that on and still use my second account to get invites |
| 21:23.19 | oscarucb | and whisper replies |
| 21:23.25 | Mikk | i have a thingy that bounces whispers from my banktoon to my main |
| 21:23.26 | Mikk | i'll use that |
| 21:23.27 | Talryn | Hopefully authors get access before add ons are active. It's nice to check things out before focusing on coding. |
| 21:23.46 | znf | Are there so many changed things around, btw? |
| 21:24.01 | Mikk | UI wise we don't think so |
| 21:24.06 | Mikk | but UI not done |
| 21:24.12 | Mikk | so we can have surprises still |
| 21:24.16 | oscarucb | I'm pretty sure minimization just disables the frame drawing engine |
| 21:24.25 | oscarucb | so anything based on OnUpdate stops running |
| 21:24.43 | oscarucb | which unfortunately includes AceTimer |
| 21:24.58 | znf | Guessing that the "under the hood" stuff will barely change, the API seems mature enough to not offer big surprises |
| 21:25.46 | oscarucb | znf: you're forgetting that every new feature adds tons of FrameXML code |
| 21:26.01 | Mikk | oscarucb: mmmm something is indeed different now |
| 21:26.07 | znf | hates GUI stuff |
| 21:26.24 | znf | I scripting/programming language I tried, I always failed terribly at GUIs |
| 21:26.29 | Mikk | oscarucb: i autoaccepted an invite. but my wow is also using full RAM. not like it was for a bit when it paged all of itself out. |
| 21:26.45 | Mikk | granted i just switched to fullscreen mode, didnt start up with it |
| 21:26.48 | Mikk | does more testing |
| 21:27.09 | oscarucb | so obviously if the game logs you out (30 min delay) or you get disconnected then lua events stop running |
| 21:27.30 | znf | if the game is minimized (ie: suspended), you won't get logged out |
| 21:27.32 | oscarucb | and the OS will eventually page out the idle code |
| 21:27.42 | znf | just a weird quirk ^ |
| 21:27.55 | oscarucb | the server still dcs you after 30 min - that has nothing to do with client-cide |
| 21:28.02 | oscarucb | *of inactivity |
| 21:28.05 | znf | actually it's the other way around |
| 21:28.13 | znf | you will appear online in the game |
| 21:28.41 | Mikk | oscarucb: no it behaved differently some patches ago. it hard paged everything except like 20MB instantly when you alt tabbed |
| 21:28.43 | znf | but as soon as you resume (switch back to the game), the client will disconnect, and barely then you will appear offline to friends/guildies :P |
| 21:28.50 | Mikk | oscarucb: no lua code would run. period. |
| 21:28.53 | Mikk | but that's obviously changed |
| 21:29.00 | Stanzilla | background fps option? |
| 21:29.08 | Mikk | now i'm seeing the behavior you describe. no onupdates running. but other events working. |
| 21:29.14 | oscarucb | fps is zero when minimized |
| 21:29.14 | Mikk | (and memory consumption stays the same) |
| 21:29.36 | Mikk | prolly safe to assume that animations won't run either |
| 21:29.42 | Mikk | so animation-based timers would poop out just ifne too |
| 21:29.52 | oscarucb | so it might be nice if AceTimer registered for some other common events to prod its timer engine |
| 21:29.56 | Mikk | nod |
| 21:30.20 | Mikk | well what i would prefer to do |
| 21:30.26 | Mikk | is to like.. register for every damn event in the game |
| 21:30.31 | Mikk | but only when minimized =) |
| 21:30.39 | oscarucb | yea but detecting that is hard |
| 21:30.46 | Mikk | a bit yes |
| 21:31.03 | oscarucb | kinda chicken and egg actually - because once you're minimized, its already too late |
| 21:31.04 | Mikk | could register for _something_ and if that something happens too late after previous onupdate |
| 21:31.07 | Mikk | BAM registerforallevents |
| 21:31.16 | Mikk | then next onupdate unregister |
| 21:31.24 | znf | woah |
| 21:31.27 | znf | I can see realms |
| 21:31.50 | oscarucb | yea but what "something" would oyu use?" |
| 21:31.54 | Mikk | indeed |
| 21:32.00 | Mikk | scratching my head over that one right now |
| 21:32.08 | oscarucb | you basically need a low-frequency event that is guaranteed to fire |
| 21:32.42 | Mikk | snorks |
| 21:32.51 | Mikk | check for alt key as warning signal |
| 21:32.52 | Mikk | :> |
| 21:32.54 | znf | I CAN SEE REALMS! with the beta client! |
| 21:33.00 | oscarucb | ew |
| 21:33.04 | Mikk | kidding ;) |
| 21:33.28 | oscarucb | UPDATE_INSTANCE_INFO is a possibility, that seems to fire with some frequency |
| 21:34.33 | Mikk | need to take into account what addons might be polling for |
| 21:34.43 | oscarucb | yea that might just be an addon requesting |
| 21:35.40 | Mikk | i dont see it myself |
| 21:35.49 | Mikk | i have LFG related spam but that's CtA_Hawk doing it |
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| 21:36.27 | oscarucb | combat log events is probably the most reliable thing |
| 21:36.30 | oscarucb | and chat events |
| 21:36.34 | Mikk | standing in shattrath now |
| 21:36.39 | Mikk | i have exactly zero things happening frequently |
| 21:37.05 | oscarucb | yea if you're in the middle of nowhere with nothing happening its still not gonna run :) |
| 21:37.15 | oscarucb | but thats better than guaranteed not running |
| 21:37.29 | znf | So, apparently a new US beta wave just went live |
| 21:37.45 | oscarucb | the place it pisses me off most is when I tab out in raid with AceTimers running and they suddenly all stop |
| 21:38.43 | Mikk | what can i say. windowed mode is sex =) |
| 21:38.52 | Mikk | (windowed + maximized that is so it looks fullscreen) |
| 21:39.03 | oscarucb | yea but windowed mode sucks or dual boxing |
| 21:39.09 | oscarucb | *for |
| 21:39.14 | Mikk | oh? |
| 21:39.17 | znf | huh? how can windowed mode suck for dual-boxing? |
| 21:39.22 | Mikk | i use windowed mode for that exact reason myself |
| 21:39.29 | znf | How can you do fullscreen dual-boxing?! |
| 21:39.49 | oscarucb | I usually minimize the background sessions |
| 21:40.04 | oscarucb | DirectX gets weird artifacts if multiple windows are open, at least on my video card |
| 21:40.08 | Mikk | ow |
| 21:40.15 | znf | I'm surprised you can actually play the 2nd minimized one |
| 21:40.16 | Mikk | yeah i dont have that problem |
| 21:40.20 | znf | is it an ati/amd? |
| 21:40.44 | znf | if so, disable the overclocking they enabled by default in the driver |
| 21:40.48 | oscarucb | its an nvidia |
| 21:40.59 | Mikk | i had an 8800. just switched to a 550. |
| 21:41.00 | Mikk | both were fine |
| 21:41.01 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 21:41.17 | Mikk | otoh i run reliable old windows xp |
| 21:41.20 | Mikk | :> |
| 21:41.25 | oscarucb | same |
| 21:41.40 | znf | you run a 11 years old OS? :P |
| 21:41.41 | znf | ew |
| 21:41.52 | Mikk | znf: will keep doing as long as it's patched |
| 21:41.59 | oscarucb | its its not broke dont fix it |
| 21:42.02 | Mikk | ^ |
| 21:42.17 | znf | should have had the plug pulled of a while ago on it, tbh |
| 21:42.38 | Mikk | they cant do that. too many corporations running it everywhere still |
| 21:42.43 | oscarucb | XP is the most stable OS since NT4 imo |
| 21:42.46 | Mikk | corporate america would behead them |
| 21:42.54 | znf | You'd be surprised how better and faster Windows7 feels, even on older hardware, compared to XP. |
| 21:42.59 | Mikk | 2000 was nice & stable too after a few SPs |
| 21:43.16 | Mikk | znf: i can make my XP fast too. just format & reinstall. |
| 21:43.28 | znf | that wasn't the point :P |
| 21:43.38 | oscarucb | win7 is def a bigger resource hog than xp |
| 21:43.40 | Mikk | but it's usually that one that fools people into thinking new windows rocks :P |
| 21:43.55 | Mikk | "omg i just installed, it boots up SO MUCH FASTER" |
| 21:44.06 | Mikk | 4 weeks later full of crapware again, same bootup speed as old version |
| 21:44.17 | znf | Mikk, nah, even after almost 2 years mine still feels spanny |
| 21:44.17 | oscarucb | yea replacing any bloat-ware ridden OS with a clean system always gives that |
| 21:44.44 | Mikk | i seriously need to flush my toilet here |
| 21:44.51 | Mikk | my java upgrader even refuses to upgrade |
| 21:45.22 | znf | Even the GPU accelerated desktop feels snappier in Win7 |
| 21:46.01 | znf | (it's one of the reasons that Win7 runs better on netbook-grade hardware, if they have WDM 1.1 drivers) |
| 21:47.53 | znf | Judging by how Win8 looks, and how they're trying to push that metro crap on desktop pcs, Win7 will live quite a bit more time |
| 21:48.39 | Mikk | znf: I don't need GPU accelerated desktop. XP doesnt have lol3d desktop. |
| 21:48.44 | Mikk | you're thinking of vista |
| 21:48.56 | znf | I'm not thinking of Vista |
| 21:49.08 | znf | I'm just saying that the GPU accelerated desktop seems snappier than the old dusty one from XP |
| 21:49.14 | Mikk | i run win2k style desktop. everything is nice & fast. |
| 21:49.53 | Mikk | animations what's that? BÄM put the window where it's supposed to be instantly. |
| 21:50.44 | znf | dunno the specifics - it just feels faster having the GPU redrawing windows while the CPU is getting hammered by a current task |
| 21:50.48 | Stanzilla | oldsql Mikk is oldsql |
| 21:51.28 | znf | You know how in XP when some task keeps the CPU at 100%, everything feels slow as fuck, even a simple task as moving a window from one side of the screen to another? |
| 21:52.14 | oscarucb | heads out for lunch |
| 22:24.41 | vhaarr | znf: you shouldn't be talking about stuff you don't know anything about |
| 22:25.21 | vhaarr | when you can explain the term "task scheduler" and know how a CPU pipeline and memory cache work, then perhaps you can talk :P |
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