| 00:05.09 | mckenziemc | out-moos quiescens. |
| 00:05.23 | quiescens | ): |
| 00:09.19 | Megalon | r u watching ze venus |
| 00:11.45 | sbu | now? |
| 00:15.50 | Megalon | http://sunearthday.nasa.gov/transitofvenus/index_ustream.php |
| 00:15.54 | Megalon | it's a dot in your dot |
| 00:16.53 | sbu | its fucking black |
| 00:17.26 | sbu | Megalon: its the right dot, right? |
| 00:17.27 | sbu | :| |
| 00:19.48 | Megalon | i.. guess! |
| 00:25.12 | pompy | yes sbu |
| 00:25.42 | pompy | the only black dot on that big red/white circle! |
| 00:26.42 | quiescens | the big unnamed red/white circle? |
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| 00:34.42 | pompy | da sun. |
| 00:35.32 | Megalon | sol |
| 00:43.27 | pompy | Kaelten: why so anti-windows!? |
| 00:46.33 | quiescens | windows are bad |
| 00:46.49 | quiescens | go outside |
| 00:48.33 | pompy | iknorite |
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| 01:11.58 | sbu | znf |
| 01:11.58 | sbu | Shadowfiend no longer grants this bonus effect for Shadow: Your Mind Flay critical strikes reduce the remaining cooldown of this ability by 10 sec. |
| 01:12.03 | sbu | WTF IS THIS SHIT? |
| 01:12.46 | znf | sbu, huh? |
| 01:12.47 | znf | what did I miss? |
| 01:13.21 | quiescens | nerfs |
| 01:14.31 | sbu | znf: new patch |
| 01:15.47 | znf | oh, the shadowfiend thingie |
| 01:15.54 | pompy1 | sbu: they cant make up their minds |
| 01:16.00 | znf | I noticed that mindflay doesn't do that anymore |
| 01:16.33 | znf | but thought it was a bug :-/ |
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| 01:46.28 | Funkeh` | "-- Temporary fix. 5 here means LFR and we don't want to allow any other raid difficulty in that case. It's also not heroic (it's a 25 normal). -Should fix in 5.1.0 cleanup." |
| 01:46.41 | Funkeh` | Code frozen already..? Or lazyness :o |
| 01:49.58 | mckenziemc | Funkeh`ness |
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| 10:45.11 | DarkAudit | OI! |
| 10:49.29 | DarkAudit | argh... sorry wrong window |
| 10:53.54 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 14:46.50 | mitch0 | anyone using Broker_Currencyflow with Bazooka? |
| 14:49.11 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:57.03 | Slayman1 | I'm bored what should I play?? |
| 14:57.33 | Repo | badboy_guilded: 03funkydude * r115 BadBoy_Guilded.lua: More ads |
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| 15:01.10 | quiescens | moo |
| 15:07.41 | mckenziemc | pokes quiescens with a bitwise operation |
| 15:13.51 | Megalon | http://i.imgur.com/KVKuH.jpg |
| 15:13.57 | Megalon | just imagine the next 50 years |
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| 15:25.50 | quiescens | flying pig maybe |
| 15:26.03 | quiescens | and then we will have borken an old saying |
| 15:26.27 | quiescens | people will have to start rewriting their colloquialisms |
| 15:30.25 | Megalon | we'll actually fly to mars |
| 15:30.28 | Megalon | INSIDE a pig |
| 15:30.45 | Megalon | directed m. night shyamalan |
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| 15:35.50 | Repo | pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r134 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add LDB to open menu and show last 10 looted items |
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| 15:39.01 | Repo | weakauras: 03mikk * r217 / (115 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:39.01 | Repo | Reduce complexity of graphics alpha channels. Remove another big chunk of zip file size. |
| 15:40.36 | Repo | weakauras: 03mikk * r218 icon.tga: Forgot to alpha reduce icon =) |
| 15:41.47 | Mikk | HAH 3.7MB -> 2.9 MB |
| 15:42.10 | Mikk | So total reduction before I started this 5.1MB -> 2.9MB |
| 15:42.11 | durcyn | people on dialup can finally use your addon |
| 15:42.15 | Mikk | it's not even mine |
| 15:42.19 | Mikk | i'm just doing it for the hell of it |
| 15:42.39 | Mikk | it's been a learning experience - how do you reduce the size of .tga files? |
| 15:43.11 | Stanzilla | Mikk: dirty hacker |
| 15:43.22 | quiescens | gasp |
| 15:43.35 | Mikk | The answer is: Step 1: Color reduce it. Step 2: Split out the alpha channel so you can edit it Step 3: Color reduce the alpha channel too =) |
| 15:44.04 | Stanzilla | and now everything looks liek crap? |
| 15:44.08 | quiescens | goto sleep |
| 15:44.21 | Mikk | That's the thing. I was doing everything manually and carefully to NOT have visible differences. |
| 15:44.44 | Mikk | I could compress it a bit further without looking crap (but with actual differences from the original) |
| 15:44.50 | Mikk | But since it's not my addon I won't do that |
| 15:44.58 | Mikk | "no real visual differences" seems fair game though |
| 15:45.07 | quiescens | reported |
| 15:45.10 | Mikk | :D |
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| 17:35.09 | pompy | spam |
| 17:35.12 | pompy | ;) |
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| 18:31.19 | znf | where's xuerian when you need to bash him? :-/ |
| 18:45.42 | Repo | collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * 1.0.26-1-g9a78ef1 Database/Vendor.lua: [+1 commit] Updated coordinates for the Vendor: "Yarlyn Amberstill" |
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| 19:51.56 | znf | so, I found out what addon freezes the game when I drop down on spinde |
| 19:52.15 | Torhal|work | EzModeButton? |
| 19:52.49 | znf | GnomeWorks :) |
| 19:53.03 | znf | CPU Usage goes to 100/sec when I drop down on spine |
| 19:53.11 | Stanzilla | blame mikk |
| 19:53.34 | Mikk | 10 what |
| 19:53.36 | Mikk | 100 what* |
| 19:53.47 | Mikk | i'm 99% sure your CPU problem is raidframes |
| 19:53.52 | Torhal|work | 100 Internets, of course, Mikk |
| 19:54.00 | Mikk | same that happens on Morchok |
| 19:54.31 | Torhal|work | znf: Also, how did you come to the conclusion that it's GnomeWorks (which has nothing to do with raids...)? |
| 19:54.40 | Stanzilla | morchok just spawns $number_of_raidmembers pets |
| 19:54.44 | Stanzilla | and that takes cpu |
| 19:54.46 | znf | Mikk, it's not... |
| 19:55.30 | Torhal|work | If you say you used a profiling AddOn, I'mma slap you because unless you're running disembedded, the libs GnomeWorks loads (and hence are attributed to GnomeWorks) are what's hitting the CPU. |
| 19:55.43 | znf | slaps Torhal back |
| 19:55.47 | znf | it's a library in there! |
| 19:55.50 | znf | I'm blaming it on the addon! |
| 19:55.59 | Torhal|work | It's a lib that GnomeWorks happens to load FIRST. |
| 19:56.03 | Torhal|work | Something ELSE is using it. |
| 19:56.18 | znf | wait, I disabled GW :) |
| 19:56.19 | znf | let's seee |
| 19:56.20 | Torhal|work | Unless lilsparky decided to go apeshit during raids |
| 19:56.49 | Torhal|work | confiscates Stanzilla's personhood. |
| 19:56.54 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: fuck you please |
| 19:57.06 | Torhal|work | Nein. |
| 19:57.09 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:57.11 | Stanzilla | das gibt ärger |
| 19:57.13 | Stanzilla | mein freund |
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| 19:57.46 | Torhal|work | How the fuck is it worse? |
| 19:57.51 | Torhal|work | casts confuse on Stanzilla. |
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| 19:58.15 | znf | zzzz |
| 19:58.18 | znf | it's already 2 hours and we're still on spine |
| 19:58.19 | znf | ffs |
| 19:58.21 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: what |
| 19:58.22 | znf | slow raid is slow |
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| 19:58.32 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: Indeed. |
| 19:59.20 | znf | Torhal|work, didn't happen now |
| 19:59.24 | znf | with GW disable |
| 19:59.26 | znf | disbale |
| 19:59.31 | znf | DISBALED |
| 19:59.32 | znf | ... |
| 19:59.35 | znf | D I S A B L E D |
| 19:59.45 | Torhal|work | disables znf. |
| 20:00.18 | znf | so it's GnomeWork's fault! |
| 20:00.23 | znf | or a library it loads :-" |
| 20:02.41 | Mikk | GnomeWorks can go bonkers on cpu yes |
| 20:02.50 | Mikk | it can get into some sort of loop |
| 20:02.55 | Mikk | where it uses assloads of CPU every ~2 seconds |
| 20:03.04 | Mikk | when that happens i usually switch craft to like first aid |
| 20:03.14 | Mikk | from what i can tell it keep rescanning the crafts |
| 20:03.19 | Mikk | including computing counts |
| 20:03.33 | Mikk | havent had it happen in a time where i've been able to troubleshoot |
| 20:03.40 | Mikk | mostly midraid -> bandaid fix |
| 20:06.03 | znf | I've only had this issue when droping down from the boat on spine |
| 20:06.11 | znf | game was freezing for half a second |
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| 20:07.51 | znf | woaaah @ the CPU usage of dothaste o.o |
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| 22:49.55 | Stanzilla | sbu Gnarfoz http://www.heise.de/security/meldung/Windows-Update-kompromittiert-1605393.html |
| 22:55.55 | Gnarfoz | is that... new? |
| 22:56.29 | Gnarfoz | nein |
| 22:56.43 | Gnarfoz | also BILD style title. shame on you heise |
| 22:57.12 | Mikk | how is that a useful worm |
| 22:57.20 | Mikk | seems impossible for it to escape the local network |
| 22:58.03 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 22:58.09 | Mikk | znf: if you are doing CPU profiling, make damn sure your libraries are standalone |
| 22:58.19 | Mikk | or you will just be shooting yourself in the foot repeatedly |
| 22:58.23 | Gnarfoz | sounds like you read not much at all about how this thing works |
| 22:58.38 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: hijack netbios queries for proxy auto discovery? |
| 22:58.47 | Gnarfoz | yes, that's how it impersonates windows update |
| 22:58.48 | Mikk | which you can only do in the same broadcast domain = local network |
| 22:58.57 | Gnarfoz | which only happens after you already have been infected |
| 22:59.04 | Mikk | so how do you get infected in the first place |
| 22:59.11 | Mikk | not through ms update |
| 22:59.16 | Stanzilla | windows zero-day exploits |
| 22:59.19 | Gnarfoz | that's not in that article (hint: not through the local network) |
| 22:59.41 | Gnarfoz | hence my comment on the bad title of the article: it insinuates windows update is the initial attack vector |
| 22:59.44 | Gnarfoz | which it isn't |
| 22:59.46 | Mikk | ah, used that way it's more useful to an attacker indeed |
| 22:59.58 | Mikk | find one vulnerable host -> pwn all others |
| 23:00.06 | Gnarfoz | it's just a stepping stone (and a major one, indeed) |
| 23:00.26 | Mikk | or get crap onto a corporate laptop |
| 23:00.32 | Mikk | and wait until it travels home |
| 23:00.34 | Mikk | works too |
| 23:00.37 | Gnarfoz | get crap anywhere, really bad |
| 23:01.14 | Mikk | the fact that it can fool the signing check though... |
| 23:01.16 | Mikk | that's freaking bad |
| 23:01.25 | Gnarfoz | realizing you have, for some years, had "wrong" intermediate certs in the wild that anyone could use to sign code with which will be placed in the middle of the trust chain of Microsoft... |
| 23:01.26 | Mikk | not surprised though - not the first time MS fucks auth up |
| 23:01.29 | Gnarfoz | bad day |
| 23:01.43 | Gnarfoz | well, it's not really "fooling" it - it's legit! |
| 23:01.54 | Gnarfoz | just a bad fuckup on MS's part with those terminal server certs |
| 23:01.56 | Gnarfoz | :F |
| 23:02.03 | Mikk | oh that's where they came from |
| 23:02.05 | Mikk | herpiderp |
| 23:02.30 | Mikk | either way bad bad bad |
| 23:02.32 | Gnarfoz | just goes to show that indeed, PKI only works as long as you can actually trust the CAs to be secure |
| 23:02.38 | Mikk | you don't just check for "is this an MS cert" |
| 23:02.46 | Mikk | you check for "is this THE MS windows update cert" |
| 23:03.02 | Mikk | but many people dont get that about certs |
| 23:03.12 | Mikk | they just think they can go "hey, it's correctly signed - it's secure!" |
| 23:03.16 | Mikk | because they don't understand crypto |
| 23:03.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, they only check at the top of the chain, IIUC |
| 23:03.19 | Mikk | or PKI |
| 23:03.47 | Megalon | well, flame has THE cert |
| 23:03.49 | Mikk | wouldn't surprise me if you could do the same with microsoft's employee mail certs |
| 23:03.50 | Gnarfoz | can't really check the entire chain or you have to hard-code shit you might want non-hard coded intentionally to be future-proof |
| 23:03.57 | Gnarfoz | hah |
| 23:04.07 | Megalon | http://blogs.technet.com/b/srd/archive/2012/06/03/microsoft-certification-authority-signing-certificates-added-to-the-untrusted-certificate-store.aspx |
| 23:04.11 | Mikk | Megalon: no they don't. they have a random cert signed by ms. |
| 23:04.27 | Megalon | a random cert where the root ca is ms itself |
| 23:04.43 | Megalon | just as good it seems |
| 23:04.44 | Gnarfoz | they have what everyone with a win2k3 terminal server has: intermediates that are allowed to sign new certs |
| 23:04.49 | quiescens | o.o |
| 23:04.55 | Gnarfoz | well, actually, not everyone I guess |
| 23:05.04 | Gnarfoz | it's for a quite specific purpose |
| 23:05.13 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 23:05.31 | Gnarfoz | whoever runs quiescens should add some new phrases to it |
| 23:05.40 | Mikk | Megalon: quite. and ms update should not trust any other cert than _the_ ms update cert, signed by a known root cert. |
| 23:05.44 | quiescens | ): |
| 23:05.58 | Mikk | or hell hardcode the ms update pubkey |
| 23:06.06 | Torhal | adds new phrases to quiescens. |
| 23:06.14 | Megalon | scrambles said phrases |
| 23:06.17 | Mikk | just accepting any random cert..... hai? |
| 23:07.58 | Gnarfoz | it's not "accepting random certs" |
| 23:08.14 | Gnarfoz | I digress, please read a proper writeup of this ^^ |
| 23:09.03 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz a cookie |
| 23:09.21 | Gnarfoz | is it https-only? |
| 23:10.27 | Megalon | you are now free to explor quiescens's domain |
| 23:10.37 | Mikk | s/any random cert/any random cert signed by MS root CA somewhere up the chain/ |
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| 23:10.39 | Megalon | but be aware that it's full of death :( |
| 23:11.09 | Mikk | which probably includes dumb shit like MS employee email certs |
| 23:11.27 | Mikk | unless they check the "Intended Usage" of the cert |
| 23:11.36 | Mikk | which i wouldn't bet on either given how they fucked basic usage up |
| 23:17.00 | Stanzilla | why is there no nocd crack for arkham city, cba having the disk in my drive all the time :< |
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| 23:17.21 | Mikk | daemontools? |
| 23:17.32 | Stanzilla | daemon tools are bad |
| 23:17.45 | Mikk | your loss? =) |
| 23:17.56 | Mikk | or do you know something i don't? |
| 23:18.02 | Stanzilla | Mikk: http://www.neowin.net/news/daemon-tools-knows-what-you-mounted-last-summer |
| 23:19.21 | Mikk | wow |
| 23:19.28 | Mikk | my daemontools doesnt have that |
| 23:19.31 | Mikk | must be a recent invention |
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