| 00:04.01 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: ofc |
| 00:06.28 | sylvanaar | for what? i missed it |
| 00:12.03 | Stanzilla | the ms tablet |
| 00:15.29 | Funkeh` | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzu3HM2CIo&hd=1 |
| 00:17.01 | sylvanaar | looks neat. |
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| 03:21.07 | prencher | Funkeh`: But it's a unique expression of entertainment and creativity and it works and plays the way you want. It's a new type of computing! |
| 03:21.35 | prencher | If that's not worth competitive pricing, I don't know what is |
| 03:22.40 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:24.50 | prencher | even quiescens likes it |
| 03:31.00 | Kivin | What's the point in enclosing code in a do..end block outside of a function or looping construct? |
| 03:39.10 | mckenziemc | scope |
| 03:39.15 | mckenziemc | of variables |
| 03:39.19 | mckenziemc | locals* |
| 03:39.40 | mckenziemc | also folding in editors that support it |
| 03:39.41 | Kivin | Sure, but why? if they're declared local in the first place, they aren't hitting _G. Seems like excess to requirements. |
| 03:39.50 | Kivin | Mm a fair point |
| 03:46.38 | Grokse | pounces mckenziemc |
| 03:49.44 | mckenziemc | is outside Grokse's scope. |
| 04:18.47 | Kivin | I've spent a better part of the day going buggy eyed staring at AceDB-3.0.lua. +9001 reputation to the person that tells me what's wrong with this code. http://pastebin.com/mXDALcyn the ["global"] key doesn't persist across ui reloads, only the AceDB ["profileKeys"] |
| 04:30.35 | quiescens | o.o |
| 04:31.36 | mckenziemc | Groksexts quiescens. |
| 04:31.53 | Grokse | D: |
| 04:32.33 | mckenziemc | sends Grokse nude pics of Torhal. |
| 04:32.57 | mckenziemc | don't ask where i got them, i don't remember |
| 04:33.08 | mckenziemc | in fact, i don't remember *anything* about last night... |
| 04:33.31 | Grokse | dude, you still owe me $40 from last night |
| 04:37.53 | mckenziemc | tbh i'm surprised that groksexsting didn't kill quiescens. |
| 04:38.13 | mckenziemc | s/xst/xt/ |
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| 05:31.16 | Torhal | Kivin: You there? |
| 05:33.33 | Torhal | Kivin: Ok, here's the thing. You have self.db and then self.data |
| 05:33.50 | Torhal | There's a reason vhaarr and I were wanting the entirety of your code. We're not trying to steal trade secrets. |
| 05:35.08 | Torhal | Here's what I would do: local database_defaults = { global = { events = { blah } } } |
| 05:35.35 | Torhal | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("AuctionToastDB", database_defaults, "Default").global |
| 05:35.52 | Torhal | Works for me in my AddOns. |
| 05:36.26 | Torhal | But as I said, you're using both self.db and self.data for seeingly the same thing and without the rest of the code there's no way to see where you're mucking things up. |
| 05:38.07 | Kivin | Torhal- That new paste is the entirety of the code. I rewrote that boilerplate in order to see if it was being affected by other code |
| 05:38.49 | Kivin | Here's what I know: at the chat console, I can confirm that my saved variable has all the data inside it with /dump. But when I reload UI, it doesn't push down to file. |
| 05:39.05 | Torhal | If nothing has changed, that's why. |
| 05:39.14 | Torhal | AceDB only saves things which are _different_ from defaults. |
| 05:41.01 | Kivin | Does the database it returns exist as an empty table with its metatable set to the saved variable and the defaults table? |
| 05:42.03 | Torhal | In /dump? More than likely. But if you haven't changed any values, nothing will be written. |
| 05:42.53 | Kivin | Because the saved variable is just {} and the default table is what has the present values, I suppose. That makes sense. |
| 05:44.30 | Torhal | Yah, that's just AceDB "magic". Using raw SVs saves all data. |
| 05:44.42 | Torhal | But since you already know what your defaults are, why store them? |
| 05:44.52 | Kivin | Yeah, makes perfect sense now that I know that. |
| 05:44.57 | Torhal | At least, that's the design philosophy. |
| 05:45.48 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
| 05:45.50 | Kivin | Here's the thing. I'm setting boolean values to saved variables based on the values of "1" and "nil". What if I say self.db.global.foo = nil, the db isn't going to push that explicit nil down to disk, right? |
| 05:46.09 | Torhal | But if you use what I typed above, you're not only not creating an extra table upon db init, but you're killing an extra line |
| 05:46.38 | Torhal | Using nil means "Remove this from the table" |
| 05:46.46 | Torhal | If you want boolean, use true and false. |
| 05:47.02 | Kivin | Then there's the answer to everything. I'm taking the response from CheckButton:GetChecked and placing it in the database verbatim. |
| 05:47.04 | bluspacecow | *nils torhal , thus removing him* |
| 05:47.08 | Torhal | The reason Blizzard uses 1 and nil is because the UI was written using Lua 5.0, which didn't have boolean values. |
| 05:47.57 | Kivin | I just need to wrap my :GetChecked calls in a conversion to boolean (does not not work?) and I should be good. |
| 05:48.13 | Torhal | Kivin: self.db.foo = CheckButton:GetChecked() and true or false |
| 05:48.38 | Torhal | Though why store false? If it isn't in the table, it's false and you aren't using that byte of RAM |
| 05:48.39 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 05:48.44 | Kivin | I like not not better ;( Alright, that'll do. Thanks Torhal. I never would have figured that out on my own. At least not without a lot more rye whiskey. |
| 05:48.52 | Torhal | lol |
| 05:48.56 | Kivin | Because it's true by default in the data_defaults table. |
| 05:49.08 | Torhal | Ok, then. |
| 05:49.24 | Kivin | My fields were permanently stuck in true status because of all the said conditions |
| 05:50.06 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 06:14.11 | mckenziemc | stabs quiescens. |
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| 06:24.45 | sbu | morning |
| 06:41.05 | Torhal | sbu: UGT FTW. |
| 06:41.25 | sbu | thats what i just said :p |
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| 07:12.13 | asmodai | yawns |
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| 08:25.14 | prencher | asmodai: How very dare you |
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| 09:04.32 | asmodai | prencher: Just like that |
| 09:04.49 | Torhal | pimps asmodai out to Fisker. |
| 09:05.41 | prencher | Man, that's harsh.. asmodai is dutch, even Fisker has standards |
| 09:05.59 | Torhal | My bad. |
| 09:09.59 | asmodai | eyes prencher and Torhal curious |
| 09:10.08 | asmodai | Since when did I rank lower than Fisker on this channel? |
| 09:10.19 | quiescens | gives asmodai a cookie |
| 09:10.40 | Torhal | asmodai: On this channel? :D |
| 09:10.53 | prencher | Quite. |
| 09:11.02 | asmodai | Torhal: har dee fucking har :-P |
| 09:11.08 | Torhal | Bwah! |
| 09:11.18 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:12.22 | asmodai | tosses peanuts at Torhal |
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| 11:16.25 | sbu | Stanzilla: its not world 1st |
| 11:19.52 | Stanzilla | sbu: really? |
| 11:19.57 | Stanzilla | who was first? |
| 11:21.17 | sbu | i dont know |
| 11:21.20 | sbu | read https://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/215008237513224192 |
| 11:21.25 | sbu | +followups |
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| 11:22.26 | Stanzilla | sbu: yeah so? |
| 11:22.30 | Stanzilla | did YOU read that? :D |
| 11:23.04 | sbu | yup!? |
| 11:23.16 | Stanzilla | bashiok was trolling I guess |
| 11:23.50 | sbu | "I'll double check it when I get into work tomorrow. :)" |
| 11:23.52 | sbu | dont think so |
| 11:24.11 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 11:24.14 | Stanzilla | we'll see |
| 11:25.30 | sbu | right, we can still sacrifice quiescens |
| 11:26.41 | quiescens | ): |
| 11:27.41 | sbu | don't be sad |
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| 18:23.26 | Kivin | Does anyone know of the problem with blizzard raid frames becoming unclickable when a player joins or leaves the raid while in combat? |
| 18:24.38 | haste | taint, can be.. almost any addon doing it |
| 18:25.08 | Kivin | Is there a particular vector that the taint likes to come from, like the famous UIDropDownMenu problems f.e.x? |
| 18:25.54 | Kivin | Or is a specific addon doing something to the raid frames and tainting it |
| 18:32.43 | haste | I haven't really experienced it myself, so can't give much more info on it |
| 18:32.56 | haste | any sane error reporting addon should pick up the action blocked event and rely it tho' |
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| 18:53.05 | arkanes | Kivin: I'm pretty sure it's UI dropdown |
| 18:53.54 | arkanes | Kivin: UI dropdown gets tainted, blizz raid frames settings pane has a dropdown on it, it taints the blizzard settings table, update in combat tries to access settings, ends up blocked |
| 18:58.45 | Kivin | arkanes: Okay, well nothing I can do about it then. Saves me trying to isolate the culprit. |
| 19:02.10 | Kivin | Someone should write a LibDropDownMenu with separate frames and APIs and beat up the addon devs til they migrate over |
| 19:03.16 | Stanzilla | there is one |
| 19:03.31 | Torhal|work | If you say DewDrop I will kill you. |
| 19:03.51 | Stanzilla | nope :D |
| 19:03.55 | Stanzilla | didn't you write one? |
| 19:03.57 | Torhal|work | Spared! |
| 19:04.23 | Torhal|work | If you're talking about LibQTip….I suppose with some wrangling it could be semi-used as a dropdown. |
| 19:04.28 | Torhal|work | In fact, folks have. |
| 19:04.32 | Torhal|work | Not the same experience, though. |
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| 19:07.02 | arkanes | is it API compatible so it would be relatively easy to wedge it in to an addon? |
| 19:07.15 | arkanes | I'd be happy to havbe a crummy dropdown if it made my raid frames work |
| 19:08.35 | pompy | Torhal|work: dewdrop |
| 19:10.15 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdropdown-1-0/ |
| 19:10.19 | Stanzilla | was Antiarc though |
| 19:10.21 | Stanzilla | the slacker! |
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| 19:12.44 | pompy | wtf |
| 19:13.00 | Torhal|work | arkanes: DewDrop is like 3x the size of most AddOns which would want to replace the default UI's |
| 19:13.17 | Torhal|work | No idea how API-compatible LibDropdown is. |
| 19:14.12 | Torhal|work | Oh jesus |
| 19:14.18 | Torhal|work | LibDropdown is only for AceConfig stuff? |
| 19:14.22 | Torhal|work | URK |
| 19:15.36 | Stanzilla | Shefki: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/982-aura-filter-whitelist-not-working/ fix please |
| 19:18.45 | pompy | Stanzilla: perhaps its time you moved on ;) |
| 19:18.53 | Stanzilla | NO |
| 19:19.14 | Stanzilla | might just be a better idea to resurrect ckknight |
| 19:31.43 | Kivin | What the hell happened to that guy, anyway? |
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| 19:56.07 | Slayman | he moved on I suppose, even though his parrot and cowtip as well as Rock and pitbull were the shit back in the olden days ;) |
| 19:56.40 | Kivin | Just curious because he was on my realm |
| 19:57.59 | Slayman | when will steam behave like an application made windows 7 |
| 20:17.30 | Repo | tier-tooltip: 03oscarucb * r53 Core.lua: typo fix |
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