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| 00:43.18 | Grokse | flings an assortment of large fish at mckenziemc |
| 00:50.04 | mckenziemc | ~trout Grokse |
| 00:50.05 | purl | ACTION slaps Grokse around a bit with a large trout! |
| 00:50.27 | Grokse | ~kill mckenziemc |
| 00:50.27 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse pseudotachyon gun at mckenziemc |
| 00:50.38 | Grokse | ~botsnack |
| 00:50.38 | purl | Grokse: :) |
| 00:50.43 | Grokse | good purl |
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| 01:26.31 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:38.00 | sb | mhh |
| 01:38.05 | sb | Stanzilla: halion is annoying :D |
| 01:38.47 | Megalon | i guess he thinks the same about you |
| 01:38.55 | sb | okay MegaFisker! |
| 01:39.21 | Megalon | sounds like MegaFister |
| 01:40.40 | Megalon | and with that thought I will leave you for tonight |
| 01:40.44 | Megalon | up, up and away |
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| 02:10.30 | Repo | arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.3.0-94-gc91b5bc Interface/List.lua: [+1 commit] If acquire_tip is nil (turned off) don't try to do anything with it. Fixes ticket #1468 |
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| 02:35.02 | Repo | arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.3.0-96-g9daf531 Waypoint.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 02:35.02 | Repo | 9daf531: Removed support for Cartographer_Waypoints since Cartographer has been dead since 2008… |
| 02:35.02 | Repo | bf02608: Also handle waypoint icon changes on the world map. |
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| 04:48.15 | grokse | copying the appdata folder my laptop to desktop = best idea ever |
| 04:48.26 | grokse | other than my mirc clients getting into a fight and ghosting each other |
| 05:11.32 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:17.46 | mckenziemc | grokse quiescens. |
| 05:29.13 | grokse | ooo |
| 05:35.40 | mckenziemc | oooooooo |
| 05:35.42 | mckenziemc | ^ spider |
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| 06:13.19 | sb | ahm znf |
| 06:13.32 | sb | FDCL 1000% damage bonus!? |
| 06:14.03 | sb | nevermind... wowhead failed |
| 06:15.06 | sb | interesting how its +1000% damage on wowhead and 20% damage on mmo-c |
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| 13:25.55 | quiescens | blarg |
| 13:26.32 | sb | whats that? sound of death? |
| 13:27.18 | Megalon | did he... evolve? |
| 13:33.18 | sb | ? |
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| 16:07.07 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.4-23-ge2d3d6d modules/units.lua: [+1 commit] Try and hookin to the existing pet battle frame hiding system, this might horribly break things so someone should test this |
| 16:12.52 | Repo | New experimental addon: Vex Power - http://www.wowace.com/addons/vexcombo/ |
| 16:12.52 | Repo | New experimental addon: OrbMaster - http://www.wowace.com/addons/orbmaster/ |
| 16:14.14 | Stanzilla | orb master o |
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| 16:35.55 | Torhal|work | The Vex one is bound to be entertaining, from its author's posts on the forums. |
| 16:36.30 | Torhal|work | stuffs Stanzilla into a piñata. |
| 16:36.42 | znf | stalker |
| 16:37.09 | znf | are those cloudy avatars generated or what? |
| 16:37.13 | znf | I see almost everyone having them |
| 16:37.28 | Torhal|work | WTF are you talking about? Context! |
| 16:37.32 | znf | http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/8a96d824999e3eebaf0479d187de610e?s=300&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowace.com%2Fthumbman%2Fshadow%2F300x300%2Fsmokeajayson.png |
| 16:37.40 | Torhal|work | gravatar |
| 16:38.25 | znf | http://www.wowace.com/thumbman/shadow/300x300/smokeajayson.png <--- this, actually |
| 16:39.00 | Torhal|work | Gravatar. |
| 16:39.22 | znf | Since when does Gravatar generate smoky addons? :-| |
| 16:39.23 | znf | erm |
| 16:39.27 | znf | smokey gravatars |
| 16:39.45 | znf | @project shadowed-unit-frames |
| 16:39.45 | Repo | znf: [WoW] Shadowed Unit Frames (Updated Jul 19, 2012 at 16:08 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/ |
| 16:40.08 | znf | I've only seen the people on wowace with these smokey avatars, what gives? :-| |
| 16:41.24 | pompy | probably the work of ckknight |
| 16:41.50 | znf | new account: http://www.wowace.com/thumbman/shadow/300x300/znf.png |
| 16:41.51 | nevcairiel | yeah its a rather old feature |
| 16:43.07 | znf | Torhal|work, the ?d= flag is the default image, like if user doesn't have gravatar, load a default image |
| 16:46.19 | pompy | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/726120/minecraft-mod-brings-blocky-joy-to-skyrim/ |
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| 17:15.52 | groktar | has written negative 200 lines of code today, yeah! |
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| 17:25.42 | pompy | ! |
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| 17:31.51 | mckenziemc | ¡ |
| 17:33.16 | Megalon | ¿ |
| 17:35.19 | mckenziemc | ¡¿uoןɐbǝɯ 'ǝıp noʎ ʇ,uoʍ ʎɥʍ |
| 17:35.46 | Humbedooh | ;o |
| 17:36.09 | Megalon | dieing is not an option |
| 17:36.14 | Megalon | dying on the other hand |
| 17:36.59 | mckenziemc | i know just the right color |
| 17:37.08 | mckenziemc | grinds up bluspacecow. |
| 17:37.20 | Megalon | bluspacecow, sounds like quite an awesome color |
| 17:41.13 | Megalon | still have a bottle of nuclear red over here :P |
| 17:43.58 | groktar | bbqs burgers |
| 17:44.50 | znf | oooh |
| 17:44.54 | znf | I want a bbq'd burger |
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| 17:46.28 | Stanzilla | haz noodlz |
| 17:46.50 | znf | has nothing |
| 17:46.52 | znf | srsly, nothing |
| 18:02.04 | Repo | shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.4.4-24-g39b8735 modules/units.lua: [+1 commit] Typo |
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| 18:02.49 | Stanzilla | poor znf |
| 18:03.17 | znf | Please donate so I can afford food |
| 18:03.20 | znf | kthxbye |
| 18:03.38 | Megalon | I can donate a trout |
| 18:03.41 | Megalon | to slap you around with |
| 18:03.46 | znf | :-( |
| 18:03.53 | znf | Why would you slap a starving person? |
| 18:05.05 | Megalon | You could still eat the trout |
| 18:05.18 | Megalon | so don't give it a negative spin |
| 18:05.59 | bluspacecow | *lightly sautees the trout in a lovely white cheese wine sauce* |
| 18:06.06 | bluspacecow | *then slaps znf with it* |
| 18:06.17 | Megalon | there, you see? |
| 18:06.21 | Megalon | deliiiiiiiiiicous |
| 18:06.21 | znf | but the slap will kill me! |
| 18:06.27 | znf | because I'm so malnourished |
| 18:06.41 | Megalon | wtf kill you, stop being quiescens |
| 18:09.05 | bluspacecow | *orders a pizza for znf* |
| 18:09.18 | znf | RANDOMSACTSOFPIZZA |
| 18:09.18 | bluspacecow | where are you again ? |
| 18:09.19 | znf | YAY |
| 18:09.22 | znf | Romania :-( |
| 18:09.26 | bluspacecow | wow |
| 18:09.33 | bluspacecow | its gonna be cold when it gets there from NZ |
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| 18:15.38 | nevcairiel | its gonna be cold for anyone if it has to travel from NZ |
| 18:16.30 | bluspacecow | good pt |
| 18:16.58 | Megalon | except the sheep next door |
| 18:17.16 | genetik | yeah, it wouldn't be too baaaad for the sheep |
| 18:17.17 | bluspacecow | next door ? |
| 18:17.28 | bluspacecow | i have one right here *pats sheep* |
| 18:19.03 | Megalon | i guessed so, but you can have sex with that one regardless of the "bought pizza" status |
| 18:20.59 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 18:21.29 | bluspacecow | if i did mildred would get jealous |
| 18:21.53 | Megalon | oh, it's midlred's sheep? |
| 18:22.58 | Megalon | weird NZ people |
| 18:23.28 | bluspacecow | no mildred's his wife |
| 18:23.34 | bluspacecow | who's on my right here *pats* |
| 18:23.42 | znf | lies |
| 18:28.02 | Stanzilla | HOW DO YOU RESCUE METZEN?! |
| 18:28.16 | znf | metzen?! |
| 18:28.33 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 18:29.24 | Elkano | kill Santa Clause and the elves, then you can set him free into the wild where he'll die a painful death for not being able to feed himself |
| 18:33.52 | znf | I'm fairly sure that they won't be doing 25M raid testing on the Beta |
| 18:34.30 | znf | They'll either be too easy or impossibly hard for the 99% out there |
| 18:34.31 | znf | :-/ |
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| 18:42.48 | Prinny_dood | howdy |
| 18:42.53 | Megalon | don't be the 99%, znf |
| 19:12.37 | znf | Megalon, I may be not the 99% |
| 19:12.45 | sb | get burgers then |
| 19:12.46 | znf | but the people I'm raiding with could be :) |
| 19:17.44 | Megalon | that's like saying, the reason you can't buy stuff isn't because you are poor, but because the people around you are |
| 19:17.59 | Megalon | HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK |
| 19:21.08 | znf | Megalon, It's quite simple, actually |
| 19:21.45 | znf | If I live in a neighbourhood with a poor population but I am rich, I won't be able to buy an expensive exclusive item in the stores in that neighbourhoods because they won't stock it, as it doesnt' match the areas demographics! |
| 19:21.46 | znf | HA! |
| 19:22.22 | Megalon | then make them match your demands |
| 19:22.27 | Megalon | because YOU ARE FUCKING RICH |
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| 19:43.23 | sb | is babblezone still used or is there some wow api call available? (getlocalizedzonenameorwhatevershititis) |
| 19:44.41 | znf | GetLocalizedSb() |
| 19:44.54 | znf | think it's time to check out my addon |
| 19:44.58 | znf | to see if it works in MoP |
| 19:45.10 | Stanzilla | sb: you can use zone ids |
| 19:45.12 | Stanzilla | und area ids |
| 19:45.37 | sb | Stanzilla: can i use them to get the localized zone name? |
| 19:45.45 | *** part/#wowace Prinny_dood (~anon@209.104.7.38) |
| 19:45.52 | Stanzilla | not sure, try looking in mapster |
| 19:48.01 | sb | master uses bz :D |
| 19:49.16 | znf | bz? |
| 19:49.19 | znf | oh |
| 19:49.20 | znf | bazaar |
| 19:49.30 | sb | no, babblezone |
| 19:49.30 | nevcairiel | actually, bable-zone |
| 19:49.41 | nevcairiel | i was wondering if there was an API to replace bablezone |
| 19:49.46 | nevcairiel | but i was too lazy to look |
| 19:59.24 | Gnarfoz | srsly |
| 19:59.27 | Gnarfoz | why |
| 19:59.36 | Gnarfoz | WHY does my car have to be a fucking asshole all the time |
| 20:00.21 | Megalon | perhaps it's just into anal |
| 20:00.46 | Repo | arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.3.0-97-g0bddf4a Database/Recipes/Cooking.lua: [+1 commit] remove the vendor flag from "Bread of the Dead" |
| 20:01.43 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: bmw? |
| 20:03.15 | Gnarfoz | I thought babble-zone was obsoleted a while ago, too |
| 20:03.17 | znf | I can't wait to get my car from the shop tomorow |
| 20:03.19 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: no :F |
| 20:03.20 | znf | it's been a week :-/ |
| 20:03.26 | nevcairiel | bmws are cars for assholes, not the cars are assholes |
| 20:03.26 | sb | Gnarfoz: what happened? |
| 20:03.41 | Gnarfoz | sb: not sure :D it started making little "pfft" noises |
| 20:03.41 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:03.51 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i thought i heard something like that, but i didnt find an API after 5 minutes of searching! |
| 20:03.59 | Gnarfoz | really a coincidence I heard it; had no music playing and windows down... |
| 20:04.05 | Stanzilla | I like BMWs :( |
| 20:04.16 | znf | BMWs are nice |
| 20:04.24 | znf | I love driving BMWs |
| 20:04.27 | Gnarfoz | but on my way back from shopping (needed new stuff to mix my alcohol with :P) the noises were gone :| |
| 20:04.31 | Gnarfoz | so I have no idea :D |
| 20:04.34 | nevcairiel | see, znf proves my point |
| 20:04.43 | Stanzilla | rude |
| 20:04.47 | Gnarfoz | !api zone |
| 20:04.48 | lua_bot | Found 14 possible matches for 'zone'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 20:05.02 | nevcairiel | that link fails |
| 20:05.03 | Stanzilla | my new display's status is still "will be sent soon" |
| 20:05.06 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 20:05.06 | znf | That feeling when you push the pedal to the metal :D |
| 20:05.09 | Gnarfoz | well, that link is rather useless |
| 20:05.09 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:05.20 | Gnarfoz | it worked once! |
| 20:05.38 | nevcairiel | !api getmap |
| 20:05.38 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'getmap': GetMapNameByID, GetMapDebugObjectInfo, GetMapContinents, GetMapZones, EJ_GetMapEncounter, GetMapOverlayInfo, CommentatorGetMapInfo, GetMapInfo, GetMapLandmarkInfo |
| 20:05.41 | Gnarfoz | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMapNameByID |
| 20:05.44 | nevcairiel | first one i suppose |
| 20:05.47 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 20:06.20 | nevcairiel | since i store the map id already anyway, this will greatly simplify my code =p |
| 20:06.41 | Stanzilla | that api is not new though? |
| 20:06.43 | nevcairiel | although i have to copy paste the zone name into the comment, or it gets a useless bunch of numbers |
| 20:07.11 | nevcairiel | new-ish, i guess |
| 20:07.24 | sb | ah, nice, thank you |
| 20:07.46 | Gnarfoz | 2 years old "new" I think |
| 20:07.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:07.57 | nevcairiel | 4.0 maybe |
| 20:07.59 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 20:08.05 | Gnarfoz | I'd think so |
| 20:08.18 | znf | So what car do you drive? |
| 20:08.21 | znf | Say a beemer! |
| 20:10.28 | nevcairiel | of course now the beta realms are down |
| 20:10.32 | nevcairiel | i gotta test on live or what |
| 20:10.42 | Stanzilla | you logged in to live last week |
| 20:10.47 | Stanzilla | I've seen it! |
| 20:10.52 | znf | wtb lvl90 instant-ding |
| 20:10.55 | nevcairiel | yeah i had to confirm i didnt break mapster :p |
| 20:11.38 | Gnarfoz | znf: le car is le french |
| 20:11.45 | znf | le sad |
| 20:11.45 | Stanzilla | peugeot? |
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| 20:11.53 | Gnarfoz | bzzzt no |
| 20:11.57 | Gnarfoz | the other one |
| 20:12.00 | Stanzilla | citroen |
| 20:12.07 | nevcairiel | why the hell does the live launcher keep asking for admin privs |
| 20:12.18 | Gnarfoz | I already had 'the OTHER other one' typed out in case you'd have said Renault |
| 20:12.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: because you suck? it doesn't for me :D is yours in a UAC folder? |
| 20:12.39 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 20:12.45 | nevcairiel | no, no UAC folder |
| 20:13.04 | znf | do you have UAC enabled? |
| 20:13.07 | znf | if yes, why? :P |
| 20:13.10 | nevcairiel | maximum setting, of course |
| 20:13.12 | Stanzilla | yes because security |
| 20:13.21 | nevcairiel | anything else is stupidity |
| 20:13.26 | Gnarfoz | disabling UAC is like installing Windows ME |
| 20:13.59 | Gnarfoz | (also, not turning it up to maximum is pretty much useless since there's been exploits for that around since before win7 was even released. never fixed. yay!) |
| 20:14.23 | znf | I run with it Disabled |
| 20:14.27 | znf | no point in annoying popups, kthxbye |
| 20:15.05 | Gnarfoz | brain 1.0 still helps, but even at maximum, win7 uac is not annoying |
| 20:15.20 | Stanzilla | what's steckdosenleiste in english? :< |
| 20:15.21 | Gnarfoz | the prompt really doesn't come up that often |
| 20:15.25 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: power strip |
| 20:15.32 | Stanzilla | hokay |
| 20:15.35 | znf | it does when I work with my stuff :D |
| 20:15.40 | Stanzilla | I got one with a remote control but it doesn't work :< |
| 20:15.42 | Gnarfoz | https://www.google.de/search?q=power+strip&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=de&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=6GoIUMDGEcfXsgaz2Y2lAw&biw=1680&bih=896&sei=6WoIUJ2zMojSsgbYwZHPAw |
| 20:15.52 | znf | heck, I'm running Win7 64bit in test mode |
| 20:15.55 | Stanzilla | client?firefox |
| 20:15.56 | Stanzilla | geht out |
| 20:15.57 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 20:16.00 | Gnarfoz | geht ab |
| 20:16.02 | Megalon | geht raus |
| 20:16.04 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:16.07 | Gnarfoz | goes raus? |
| 20:16.15 | Stanzilla | leave me in ruhe |
| 20:16.20 | Gnarfoz | now it gehs around! |
| 20:16.26 | Megalon | i will sauerkraut in your kopf |
| 20:16.56 | Gnarfoz | fuck you, you're not even from Sauerkrautland! |
| 20:17.14 | Megalon | but i still like sauerkraut |
| 20:17.23 | Megalon | next to a schweinsbraten |
| 20:17.28 | Stanzilla | now fix my power strip |
| 20:17.31 | Megalon | or fleischnudel :P |
| 20:17.32 | Gnarfoz | znf: I hope some evil rootkit, spamming, botnet thingy gets you! :P |
| 20:17.42 | znf | Gnarfoz, I don't even use an antivirus... |
| 20:17.53 | Gnarfoz | that I don't either |
| 20:18.11 | Gnarfoz | but you're throwing actually useful security things out of the window :P |
| 20:18.22 | Megalon | I have a big bottle of snake oil right next to me |
| 20:18.23 | Gnarfoz | AV is mostly snake-oil that can be replaced by Brain 1.0 |
| 20:18.24 | znf | An annoying pop-up is not security |
| 20:18.31 | Megalon | rubbing it on the motherboard every morning |
| 20:19.05 | Gnarfoz | not sure why you keep saying annoying when you shouldn't even encounter it more than once a day (what the fuck do you do that it occurs more often?) |
| 20:19.28 | znf | uhm, stuff :) |
| 20:19.30 | znf | I do lots of shady stuff :D |
| 20:20.09 | znf | lol, a shop here is selling the new Nokia 808 PureView for 700€ |
| 20:20.21 | Gnarfoz | and associating it's (perceived, or claimed) annoyingness with how much security it provides is just trolling |
| 20:21.25 | znf | I don't find that "secure" at all. All it does is stop random weird programs change window settings or install other software. |
| 20:21.33 | znf | That, again, can easily be replaced by brain 1.0, as you say it put. |
| 20:21.40 | Gnarfoz | uhm o_O |
| 20:21.43 | znf | It also stops some of my software to function properly |
| 20:21.45 | Gnarfoz | you don't seem to know how it works :D |
| 20:22.06 | znf | And the shitty "you must put the program's settings in %appdata%" |
| 20:22.09 | Gnarfoz | and if it really does, then your software sucks balls and was either made by amateurs or not made in the last 10 years |
| 20:22.16 | Gnarfoz | you don't have to do that. |
| 20:22.21 | znf | Go fuck yourself with your appdata, I like my settings in my program folder. |
| 20:22.35 | Gnarfoz | then put the program in a folder UAC doesn't specially protect and you're fine |
| 20:22.59 | nevcairiel | setting in the program folder? whats this, the 90s? |
| 20:23.00 | znf | I like installing my shit in Program Files, by default. |
| 20:23.03 | Gnarfoz | you want to have it your way anyway, so go the extra step and have your own app folder... with blackjack and whores |
| 20:23.06 | znf | nevcairiel, I prefer it that way. |
| 20:23.06 | Gnarfoz | (and settings in it) |
| 20:23.23 | Gnarfoz | it's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of being boneheaded |
| 20:23.30 | Gnarfoz | you don't gain *anything* from it :P |
| 20:23.31 | nevcairiel | any sane app wont even give you that choice :P |
| 20:23.44 | znf | I don't like hunting for a program's settings in %AppData%\Company Name\Obscure Folder\Some Version\Settings.ini |
| 20:23.55 | Gnarfoz | how's that "hunting"? |
| 20:24.03 | Gnarfoz | all settings are in %appdata%, no big search |
| 20:24.05 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 20:24.20 | znf | yeah, except there's Roaming, Local |
| 20:24.22 | Gnarfoz | and \obscure folder\ doesn't even happen |
| 20:24.22 | znf | WTF is that shit? |
| 20:24.26 | Gnarfoz | no, there's only Roaming |
| 20:24.31 | Gnarfoz | apps aren't supposed to put shit in Local |
| 20:24.36 | Gnarfoz | or LocalLow for that matter |
| 20:24.41 | nevcairiel | basically anything is in roaming, local is just for windows shit |
| 20:24.44 | Gnarfoz | if they do, yell at the author |
| 20:24.45 | nevcairiel | although some apps violate that |
| 20:25.00 | znf | I have Local, LocalGoogle, LocalLow (?!), Roaming in there |
| 20:25.16 | Gnarfoz | and hopefully, 95% of your settings are in Roaming |
| 20:25.59 | znf | I have 77 directories under Local |
| 20:26.11 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I doubt logical arguments are going to convince someone who firmly believes "UAC sucks" and writes Microsoft as "M$" :P |
| 20:26.13 | nevcairiel | your system sure sounds bloated :d |
| 20:26.29 | znf | I don't write Microsoft as M$ |
| 20:26.37 | Gnarfoz | you should, it would fit! :D |
| 20:26.59 | znf | I simply dislike UAC and I believe it provides absolutely no "security" provided that you have a brain. |
| 20:27.28 | znf | Same as antiviruses and firewalls... |
| 20:27.30 | Gnarfoz | so how would your brain protect you from a Flash drive by exploit installing shit onto your system with full "system" privileges? |
| 20:27.42 | Gnarfoz | AV doesn't help against that, nor do Firewalls... but UAC does |
| 20:27.44 | znf | I don't have autorun enabled... |
| 20:27.54 | Gnarfoz | you don't need fucking autorun for that |
| 20:27.54 | Stanzilla | I'm sure LocalGoogle was created by a typo in the chrome installer |
| 20:28.05 | nevcairiel | i dont have that |
| 20:28.17 | Stanzilla | I had it |
| 20:28.22 | Gnarfoz | so do I |
| 20:28.24 | Stanzilla | let me guess, znf uses dev channel? |
| 20:28.26 | znf | I'm on Chrome Canary, so anything could be possible :) |
| 20:28.30 | Stanzilla | okay |
| 20:28.32 | Stanzilla | there we have it |
| 20:28.53 | Gnarfoz | also, I found your "UAC only stops programs from changing system settings and from random software installing itself without my consent" quip funny... that's EXACTLY what it's supposed to do and disabling it leaves you open to that. And Brain 1.0 doesn't help against it. :F |
| 20:29.07 | znf | Gnarfoz, I simply know what software I install and from what sources... |
| 20:29.18 | nevcairiel | If you have 77 folder in Local, i doubt that :D |
| 20:29.20 | Gnarfoz | except when it's malware |
| 20:29.33 | znf | I'm not sure what shady software could you install from a flash drive that would do that... |
| 20:29.38 | Gnarfoz | not a flash DRIVE |
| 20:30.05 | znf | you saud "from a Flash drive" |
| 20:30.07 | znf | said |
| 20:30.11 | Gnarfoz | Flash (Adobe Flash) drive-by (i.e. you visit a website, do NOTHING special there, and it tries to infect you. advertisments try this all the time) infection |
| 20:30.22 | Gnarfoz | I said those words, but not JUST those words. |
| 20:30.32 | znf | Didn't they squash that bug/exploit like ages ago? |
| 20:30.40 | Gnarfoz | (I said "flash drive by" - should've added a - between drive and by :D) |
| 20:30.51 | Gnarfoz | "that" exploit? you're cute... Flash has 5 of these a week |
| 20:30.58 | znf | I think it's drive-by |
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| 20:31.02 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 20:31.32 | Gnarfoz | and if it's not Flash, then it's PDF. Or your browser itself (rare these days), or Java, or Silverlight, or $somethingelse_you_dont_expect |
| 20:31.42 | Gnarfoz | I'm beginning to sound like Dagmar, please shoot me now |
| 20:31.49 | nevcairiel | ~shoot Gnarfoz |
| 20:31.49 | purl | ACTION shoots Gnarfoz in the ear with a cork gun! |
| 20:31.54 | Gnarfoz | not helpful |
| 20:32.08 | Megalon | wasn't there a chrome thing |
| 20:32.14 | Megalon | where the guys used 14 exploits? |
| 20:32.25 | znf | You're really paranoid. I've been running free of UAC, AV and Firewall for years - never had rogue software being installing on my computer |
| 20:32.26 | Megalon | to go from the browser all the way out of the sandbox |
| 20:32.35 | Gnarfoz | znf:... to your knowledge :P |
| 20:32.37 | nevcairiel | chrome exploits are found pretty fast because google pays you money for it :) |
| 20:33.09 | Megalon | the problem is that who cares about to get out of the sandbox on a browser anyway |
| 20:33.16 | Megalon | you only want the data that's in the browser |
| 20:33.25 | znf | Whenever I have some really dodgy software I want to test out, I just use Sandboxie |
| 20:33.26 | Gnarfoz | and not understanding how someone is willing to throw out one of the few security mechanisms that actually work and help, just because of an "annoying popup" they shouldn't even see that often:F |
| 20:33.57 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: that's only half true - to GET the data, you'll probably have to get out of the sandbox, too |
| 20:34.17 | Yoshimo | nevcairiel : how much babble-x is still needed for addons these days? |
| 20:34.20 | znf | Gnarfoz, just because you believe so doesn't make it true. I'm malware free :) |
| 20:34.36 | nevcairiel | Yoshimo: boss is the big one, i guess |
| 20:34.37 | Gnarfoz | "believe"? |
| 20:34.42 | Gnarfoz | what do I believe |
| 20:34.50 | nevcairiel | Yoshimo: although you can do a lot with the ids from the combatlog |
| 20:34.55 | Gnarfoz | that UAC improves system security? that's not a belief, that's just a fact. :F |
| 20:34.59 | nevcairiel | but if you want to display the npc names somewhere, still need it |
| 20:35.13 | nevcairiel | The small ones like faction/race are still there |
| 20:35.16 | Yoshimo | how about babbledigsites? |
| 20:35.20 | Gnarfoz | babblewhat |
| 20:35.26 | znf | Gnarfoz, for people who can't tie their own shoelaces... |
| 20:35.33 | znf | Give me a break |
| 20:35.41 | Stanzilla | I never tie my shoelaces ( |
| 20:36.11 | Megalon | velcro ftw? |
| 20:36.12 | Yoshimo | you wear shoes with hook-and-loop fastener ? ;) |
| 20:36.24 | znf | The only people UAC "protects" are those who click the "you won 1 million dollars" banners. |
| 20:36.39 | Megalon | wtf, 1 million dollars? AGAIN????? |
| 20:36.45 | Gnarfoz | bullshit |
| 20:36.48 | Megalon | and i only need to punch that monkey |
| 20:37.36 | Gnarfoz | I'll just ask one more time, because I'm not sure what else to say to someone who ignores facts and dodges questions: what protection do you have against ANY piece of software that gets executed on your system. Intentionally by you, or unintentionally without your consent by exploiting another piece of software on your system (e.g. browser, plugin, audio player, even picture viewers have had code execution bugs) |
| 20:39.00 | Gnarfoz | you have *none*. every piece of executable code that runs on your system is in a position where it can do whatever the hell it wants, without a chance for you to prevent it. even without a chance for you to *notice* it, if so desired. |
| 20:39.34 | znf | Yeah, because UAC is so perfect. Give me a break. |
| 20:39.50 | Stanzilla | I tied my shoelaces once and put them on the inside :< |
| 20:39.54 | znf | I haven't had any issue in years, and neither do my tech-savvy friends. I only notice those in retards clicking 1 million dollar banners... |
| 20:39.58 | Torhal|work | breaks quiescens over znf. |
| 20:40.14 | Gnarfoz | you not having issues does not consitute an answer to my question |
| 20:40.28 | Gnarfoz | you probably don't even WANT to answer it |
| 20:40.38 | znf | It does: I notice if something's installing on my computer without my knowledge and if something that's not suppose to run... runs. |
| 20:40.48 | Gnarfoz | how do you do that? |
| 20:41.14 | znf | Call it a feeling, whatever. I just notice. |
| 20:41.45 | Gnarfoz | Mulder wants his poster back :( |
| 20:42.39 | znf | If you spend 16+ hours on the computer like I do, you can't not notice :) |
| 20:42.46 | Gnarfoz | bullshit |
| 20:42.55 | Gnarfoz | I spend similar hours on mine |
| 20:43.05 | znf | Then I feel sorry for you if you don't notice. |
| 20:43.09 | Gnarfoz | ahahaha |
| 20:43.17 | Gnarfoz | how do you "notice", hm? |
| 20:43.22 | nevcairiel | An app spying on you is not written to be noticed |
| 20:43.24 | znf | But I'm pretty sure you do and if you'd run without UAC you wouldn't be in any danger |
| 20:44.08 | Gnarfoz | I'm pretty sure I wouldn't notice the newest build of notepad++ has an infected installer that installs a keylogger/bot/whatever at the same time as it installs notepad++ |
| 20:44.14 | Gnarfoz | why? because how the fuck would I |
| 20:44.40 | Gnarfoz | and if it's something that installs itself without me doing something at the same time? how do I notice? my ssd doesn't make any sounds when it's used :P |
| 20:44.50 | znf | You would, maybe not instantly, but you would. |
| 20:45.15 | nevcairiel | If you have a well-written trojan on your system, you dont |
| 20:45.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah, when it encrypted my files, I reboot and it tries to make me pay €€€ to decrypt it (not that it would decrypt anything, it would just take my money :P) |
| 20:45.42 | Gnarfoz | i.e. 5 seconds is enough for malware to fuck you over 5 times |
| 20:45.45 | nevcairiel | well, if by notice you mean you n otice when you get the next credit card bill |
| 20:45.45 | Yoshimo | would be awesome when you could get rid of the bunch of babble libs one day ;) |
| 20:46.17 | Gnarfoz | I never had problems, I admit that, but at the same time, that doesn't mean I'm not careful |
| 20:47.37 | Stanzilla | what is this crazy talk here |
| 20:47.45 | Gnarfoz | I just met him |
| 20:47.47 | Gnarfoz | and he is crazy |
| 20:47.54 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:48.02 | nevcairiel | he plays a shadow priest, of course he is |
| 20:48.28 | znf | all shadow priest people are crazy |
| 20:48.34 | sb | mhh.... |
| 20:48.40 | Gnarfoz | http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/07/20/petabytes-on-a-budget-v2-0revealing-more-secrets/ I wish they'd post a followup to this :| MOAR storage porn |
| 20:49.20 | nevcairiel | i should totally build something like that |
| 20:49.24 | nevcairiel | just because |
| 20:59.37 | Megalon | so you can have wow, ptr AND beta installed? |
| 21:00.07 | Gnarfoz | of course |
| 21:00.23 | Gnarfoz | but if you actually have beta access and only one account, then you won't be able to play on PTR |
| 21:00.46 | Gnarfoz | (at least that's what they say over and over again, it worked fine for me w/ cata beta and 4.0.1 PTR back in the day) |
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| 22:29.08 | znf | Oh, someone removed the experimental tag |
| 22:29.10 | znf | nevermind |
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