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| 15:39.09 | quiescens | dies. |
| 15:40.47 | Repo | sexymap: 03funkydude 07master * v1.5-2-gd28a31c General.lua: [+1 commit] Comment out the movers code, hopefully this doesn't upset too many people. Things like the quest tracker and boss frames just don't want to be tampered with and it's pointless battling against the taints AND Blizzard's events that move these frames around all the time. I think these things should be left to replacement addons like unit frames and quest logs. We now only move the minima |
| 15:42.17 | Funkeh` | I'm gonna be burned alive |
| 15:49.29 | prencher | I'm ready, gots my marshmallows right here |
| 15:51.09 | quiescens | yay marshmallow |
| 15:55.25 | nevcairiel | I dont get people commenting big blocks of code when they have revision control |
| 15:55.29 | Torhal|work | Funkeh`: I never understood why a minimap AddOn fucked with that stuff to begin with. |
| 15:55.30 | nevcairiel | just delete it, revert if need be |
| 15:56.13 | Torhal|work | nevcairiel: I have that same issue in ARL. Ackis likes commenting shit out all over the place. |
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| 16:05.41 | durcyn | Funkeh`: honestly i was contemplating exempting the quest tracker from movers myself, the taint is obnoxious |
| 16:06.04 | durcyn | Torhal|work: they're all parented to the minimap, or were once upon a time |
| 16:06.55 | nevcairiel | what you do is just move the minimap away, but leave the minimaps parent frame where it always was |
| 16:07.02 | nevcairiel | just dont mess with all this mess! |
| 16:08.09 | nevcairiel | I had some taint of the quest tracker in beta without moving it, clicking the buttons for quest items caused action denied errors, couldn't figure out what it was from, and at the time activating taint log caused client crashes |
| 16:10.45 | durcyn | it's intermittent, it'll work on a reload most of the time |
| 16:11.14 | nevcairiel | yeah i was still hoping to find out if smoothquest had any part in it and could be fixed |
| 16:11.18 | nevcairiel | but hasnt happend again |
| 16:11.34 | Ackis | sorry Torhal|work |
| 16:12.34 | Megalon | hm Funkeh`, is toejam&earl one of your favourite games? i'll be disappoint if not |
| 16:13.11 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 16:13.40 | Megalon | groovy |
| 16:31.42 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, lazyness. If I decide to bring it back it won't be through a revert it will be through cut & pasting it into a separate addon or something :P |
| 16:32.24 | Funkeh` | durcyn / nevcairiel yes it used to work by moving the minimap cluster (parent) and I changed it to just moving the minimap. they are all still parenting the cluster |
| 16:33.05 | Funkeh` | I just left the invisible parent there and disabled the mouse so there doesn't end up being a "dead spot" |
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| 16:42.57 | nevcairiel | thats how minimapster works as well, never had a problem from it i think |
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| 18:03.24 | groktar | approaches quiescens whilst bearing a large trout |
| 18:03.28 | nevcairiel | is youtube now blocking proxtube or whats happening, all i get is an image of static and "An error occured. Please try again later." |
| 18:05.19 | znf | I would ask you to link me |
| 18:05.31 | znf | but I'm not german, videos aren't usually blocked for me :-/ |
| 18:05.35 | Megalon | stop watching spaceclop on youtube, nev |
| 18:08.13 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: yes they changed something |
| 18:31.17 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03hegarol * r3736 / (10 files in 6 directories): PvP prepared for end of Season 11 |
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| 19:09.29 | MysticalOS | libbabble zone still doesn't have any of MoP zones? :( |
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| 19:10.05 | nevcairiel | You can get the zone names from the game now |
| 19:10.39 | nevcairiel | GetMapNameByID |
| 19:11.07 | MysticalOS | yeah i know, but when updating someone elses mod for personal use, that uses babble ugg |
| 19:15.02 | Stanzilla | disables Funkeh` |
| 19:15.29 | MysticalOS | hmm yeah this code would take signifcant changing to fix, while all it needs to function is updated libbabble, i'll just wait, and instead see what changes todays beta build did |
| 19:15.44 | Funkeh` | here's an idea: stop keeping dead mods alive |
| 19:16.35 | MysticalOS | it's actually not a dead mod, just one i've highly modified. |
| 19:16.36 | MysticalOS | http://www.wowace.com/addons/silver-dragon/repositories/mysticaldragon/ |
| 19:16.57 | MysticalOS | he'd merged some of that into his tho so i guess i have to edit that list |
| 19:17.28 | nevcairiel | wait for what? Not many people can add entries to babble-zone, and i wont :) |
| 19:19.03 | nevcairiel | Someone could transition Babble-Zone to essentially just be a wrapper around the API, lookup all translations on launch and replace the data table, but then we never did that, so maybe not the best idea |
| 19:19.12 | Stanzilla | what did you modify there, MysticalOS |
| 19:22.23 | nevcairiel | wait wait, beta down for patching and mmo-c does not have changes up yet? |
| 19:22.28 | nevcairiel | someone is slipping :p |
| 19:23.07 | nevcairiel | usually the changes would've been up yesterday! |
| 19:23.54 | MysticalOS | it's a large one too |
| 19:24.08 | MysticalOS | base is 342MB |
| 19:24.34 | nevcairiel | launcher doesnt have anything yet and i dont bother with any weird patch discovery :p |
| 19:25.18 | MysticalOS | N=15973 ; while true ; do wget http://ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod/beta/0E1FFF21/NA/15827.direct/Data/wow-update-base-$N.MPQ ; N=$((N+1)) ; done |
| 19:25.20 | MysticalOS | ftw |
| 19:25.40 | MysticalOS | er actually i n eed to update that script again |
| 19:25.52 | nevcairiel | doesnt offer any use to me :p |
| 19:26.11 | MysticalOS | root folder is 15890 now |
| 19:27.23 | MysticalOS | i'm on a slow connection, i like to have it downloaded BEFORE they bring realms back up |
| 19:27.42 | MysticalOS | they tend to not seed it to launcher until literally right before they come up, bit annoying |
| 19:28.32 | nevcairiel | they should release a 1gb patch or something at 0:00 launch day |
| 19:28.39 | nevcairiel | who cares about a 5 minute delay xD |
| 19:29.09 | Stanzilla | 5 minute |
| 19:29.10 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 19:29.38 | nevcairiel | that would nicely take the load of the login servers |
| 19:36.10 | MysticalOS | well i'm still hoping we don't need to logout for that |
| 19:36.54 | nevcairiel | information on that fact will be released before the launch |
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| 19:43.33 | znf | MysticalOS, stop it, you necromancer |
| 19:51.46 | MysticalOS | hmm, nerfs to DS and firelands |
| 19:52.19 | MysticalOS | and ooh dps boosts to reversals, feng is going to be even more fun, pew pew |
| 19:52.52 | MysticalOS | i already had a high enough stack to do about 500k damage per second pretty consistently |
| 19:53.04 | znf | what? |
| 19:57.43 | Stanzilla | what did you modify in silverdragon MysticalOS |
| 19:57.49 | MysticalOS | a bunch of stuff |
| 19:58.50 | MysticalOS | that list is probably not even complete. mainly, i vastly improved the cache handling, improved the saving of mobinfo, added additional sound options, including one specifically aimed at mount rares |
| 19:59.10 | MysticalOS | so if i'm afk, and a sound goes off, i KNOW from the other room whether it's aeonax, or just some peice of crap bloodseeker/xariona |
| 19:59.34 | MysticalOS | or mobus vs poseidus, etc |
| 20:01.39 | znf | MysticalOS, let it die! |
| 20:01.49 | MysticalOS | it's not a dead mod, he maintains it |
| 20:02.00 | znf | but there's NPCScan! |
| 20:02.13 | MysticalOS | npcscan annoys me |
| 20:11.14 | MysticalOS | http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/14/oracle-officially-launches-java-se-7-for-os-x/ hmm, anyone still use java? besides maybe WoL client? |
| 20:12.26 | Funkeh` | kill it with fire |
| 20:12.48 | durcyn | but does it come with the ask.com toolbar for osx?! |
| 20:15.38 | Yoshimo | MysticalOS : have you time to look at the wim ui problem i made a ticket for? |
| 20:18.22 | znf | so, who wants to make a stand-alone, outside the proces damage meter? :P |
| 20:19.00 | groktar | offers to devour znf's soul, free of charge |
| 20:19.01 | Yoshimo | dont we have that already with worldoflogs livereports? |
| 20:19.14 | znf | Yoshimo, yeah, but it's not exactly "live" as Skada/Recount |
| 20:19.36 | Yoshimo | well but as good as it possibly can be |
| 20:19.54 | durcyn | a lcoal process wouldn't be much fresher, you can't do much about the log flush rate |
| 20:20.15 | Yoshimo | wasnt it 5m or so`? |
| 20:20.28 | znf | huh? the log isn't flushed on the spot? |
| 20:20.42 | znf | because it certainly seems so when you tail it |
| 20:28.23 | nevcairiel | its not realtime. there is a bit of buffering but controlled by both bytes and time. |
| 20:33.35 | Torhal|work | znf: One does not simply tail a log - cars are more appropriate. |
| 20:33.44 | Torhal|work | does a tail -f znf. |
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| 20:57.50 | mckenziemc | stabs Torhal|jerk |
| 20:58.13 | Stanzilla | hey Torhal|work |
| 21:02.20 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: mckenziemc must be stopped. |
| 21:05.42 | znf | Torhal|work, you must write me a stand-alone damage meter |
| 21:06.11 | Torhal|work | znf: You're absolutely correct; I must LOL and ROFLMAO every chance I get. |
| 21:06.28 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 21:06.45 | Funkeh` | whats wrong with skada znf |
| 21:06.57 | znf | Funkeh`, it eats my WoW's MHZ! |
| 21:07.07 | nevcairiel | every damage meter will |
| 21:07.09 | Funkeh` | not that Ive noticed |
| 21:07.10 | nevcairiel | thats what they do |
| 21:07.26 | Funkeh` | but I only have the damage and & dps addons/modules loaded |
| 21:07.27 | znf | nevcairiel, yeah, but I'm on a quad-core CPU and wow can't be arsed to properly use them all... |
| 21:07.42 | znf | also, I'm poor and can't afford a new CPU :-" |
| 21:07.44 | Torhal|work | Welcome to 2004. |
| 21:08.33 | znf | but I have spare cycles on my other cores, if you know what I mean |
| 21:08.45 | MysticalOS | wow is utter shit with cpu usage |
| 21:08.48 | mckenziemc | *wink wink* |
| 21:08.57 | MysticalOS | it threads so poorly that your computer can be 80% idle and lagging |
| 21:09.15 | Torhal|work | znf: Remember the idiot in #mmo-c who tried to argue with us about WoW's CPU usage? |
| 21:09.16 | MysticalOS | max out one core, use about 20% on another, forget you even have others |
| 21:09.33 | znf | Torhal|work, yeah... I'm still not sure if he was trolling or not :-/ |
| 21:09.38 | Torhal|work | lol |
| 21:09.55 | MysticalOS | i hate the fact i can get as low as 20fps in a raid on one wow client, but if i open 3 wow clients, they all still get 20fps, in same damn raid |
| 21:10.02 | MysticalOS | at same time |
| 21:10.11 | znf | indeed... |
| 21:10.54 | znf | I'm not even sure I will be able to raid in MoP |
| 21:11.00 | MysticalOS | well on plus |
| 21:11.13 | MysticalOS | MoP raids seem to be less demanding then DS and firelands were |
| 21:11.15 | nevcairiel | sounds like your cpu is too weak, my gpu wouldnt let me run 3 copys without eventually losing performance. but then i push the envelope on all settings :d |
| 21:11.32 | znf | yeah, mine's an old Q6600... |
| 21:11.34 | MysticalOS | our last two raid tiers were outdoor, and had a ton of background shit going on consuming cpu |
| 21:11.46 | MysticalOS | firelands was wasting cpu on the massive amount of trash, even during boss fights |
| 21:11.47 | nevcairiel | outdoor raids are always a problem |
| 21:11.54 | MysticalOS | DS on all it's crap going on outside |
| 21:12.08 | MysticalOS | my fps in the MOp raids has been consistently much better then DS and FL |
| 21:12.27 | nevcairiel | started in icecrown already, when you were at the ship or saurfang, dont look at the wide outdoors |
| 21:12.44 | MysticalOS | my gpu slugs a little with 3 clients open, and it's certainly not a good idea to set view distance to ultra on all 3 cause no way it has enough vram for that |
| 21:13.17 | nevcairiel | i settled for simply reducing shadows a bit, gets a lot of presure of the cpu |
| 21:13.20 | znf | well, my gpu slows down a bit after the 2nd client, too, but that's because I run at 1800x900 |
| 21:13.31 | znf | my shadows are to lowest setting possible :-/ |
| 21:13.35 | MysticalOS | honestly, i've noticed whether i run low or ultra, makes 0 difference on fps |
| 21:13.36 | MysticalOS | 0 AT ALL |
| 21:13.38 | nevcairiel | znf: is that supposed to be a high resolution? :D |
| 21:13.38 | MysticalOS | which is strange |
| 21:13.52 | znf | nevcairiel, I played windowed, but I never liked to play "full screen" windowed |
| 21:13.59 | znf | and I really like the 2:1 AR |
| 21:14.09 | nevcairiel | you're weird |
| 21:14.14 | MysticalOS | but i am saving up for a new comp. hopefully beginning 2013 |
| 21:14.24 | znf | I would enjoy having a 2.35:1 AR monitor :D |
| 21:14.27 | nevcairiel | there isnt much i could upgrade on this one |
| 21:14.35 | znf | but I don't think a kidney will pay for one |
| 21:15.14 | nevcairiel | i guess there are slightly faster cpus by now, but nothing worth upgrading to =p |
| 21:15.28 | MysticalOS | what gen are you on, sandy? |
| 21:15.36 | znf | mine is an old Q6600 :D the first gen quad-core CPUs :-/ |
| 21:15.37 | nevcairiel | yeah, 2600k |
| 21:15.40 | MysticalOS | ivy wasn't a real big hop for desktops |
| 21:16.19 | MysticalOS | yeah, not really worth the upgrade right now. gotta upgrade on the right cycles, the tocks |
| 21:16.39 | Stanzilla | I upgraded von conroe to ivybridge |
| 21:16.40 | Stanzilla | that was nice |
| 21:16.43 | Stanzilla | *from |
| 21:16.45 | Stanzilla | damn german |
| 21:17.08 | nevcairiel | we'll see what haswell brings |
| 21:17.17 | nevcairiel | and when.. :) |
| 21:17.33 | MysticalOS | yeah |
| 21:17.39 | MysticalOS | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture) heh |
| 21:17.41 | nevcairiel | too bad AMD only builds crap these days, causes intel to become slower in development :p |
| 21:17.45 | Funkeh` | MysticalOS, you can upgrade macs? the parts aren't glued in? ^^ |
| 21:17.45 | MysticalOS | mostly speculation |
| 21:17.54 | MysticalOS | oh they are, on shitty macs |
| 21:18.01 | MysticalOS | ie imacs and macbook pro retinas |
| 21:18.08 | MysticalOS | the towers are actually pretty nice |
| 21:18.12 | Funkeh` | you think it will get better next year? |
| 21:18.15 | MysticalOS | only mac i'd ever touch is a mac pro |
| 21:18.35 | MysticalOS | we'll see, like i said, i am saving up for a "computer" not a mac, i'll get what is appropriate in 2013 |
| 21:18.42 | Gnarfoz | <MysticalOS> well i'm still hoping we don't need to logout for that <-- of course you will, as you've had to the last 3 expansions. |
| 21:19.00 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, at least AMD are pushing the core count as futile as it is. Thanks to Intels dominance we've been on 4 cores for how many years now? |
| 21:19.03 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: some changes in framexml suggest you might not have to |
| 21:19.04 | MysticalOS | gnarfox, that was before they added new technology and events to UI source, and are able to call expansion update without logout |
| 21:19.10 | Funkeh` | smartphones have caught up, it's disgusting |
| 21:19.14 | MysticalOS | although it's still speculated, and not confirmed |
| 21:19.30 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: applications havent really caught up, so why increase it |
| 21:20.02 | Funkeh` | meh, applications we're never caught up and never will be, doesn't mean we should stop pushing the limit |
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| 21:23.19 | nevcairiel | if you really need that high core count, its not like intel doesnt offer it |
| 21:24.36 | nevcairiel | but you pay that :p |
| 21:24.56 | groktar | politely dunks nevcairiel in a barrel full of telone |
| 21:25.47 | znf | Gnarfoz, huh? |
| 21:25.52 | znf | Gnarfoz, no you haven't |
| 21:26.01 | znf | You didn't need to log off in WoTLK |
| 21:26.14 | nevcairiel | WotLK -> Cata you had to |
| 21:26.15 | Stanzilla | yes you did |
| 21:26.40 | znf | I camped the zeppelin in Tirisfal for almost 2 hours before it spawned |
| 21:26.45 | Gnarfoz | sure you did for wotlk, znf |
| 21:27.03 | znf | I'm 100.001% positive I didn't have to relog in the last second like Cata |
| 21:27.13 | Gnarfoz | last second? first second you mean. |
| 21:27.29 | Gnarfoz | the only thing that's possible if your account was already upgraded is that you relogged after 22:00 UTC |
| 21:27.38 | nevcairiel | its possible wotlk was different because it was an entirely different continent, but i wasnt online for the launch |
| 21:27.49 | Gnarfoz | it was |
| 21:27.52 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 21:27.54 | MysticalOS | in wrath weren't the servers down until launch time? like they brought em up at 12? been a while i barely remember. i don't remember a relog though, i instead vaguely remember just logging in though at 12 |
| 21:27.55 | Gnarfoz | misread that |
| 21:28.08 | Gnarfoz | no, servers weren't down |
| 21:28.10 | Gnarfoz | why would they :D |
| 21:28.12 | znf | like I said, when WoTLK started I camped the zeppelin for ~2 hours |
| 21:28.20 | znf | On Cataclysm they asked us to relog at 00:00 |
| 21:28.21 | Gnarfoz | znf: was your account upgraded to wotlk before then? |
| 21:28.36 | znf | ofcourse it was... |
| 21:28.44 | Gnarfoz | how? :p |
| 21:28.53 | Gnarfoz | because you got a key earlier than you were supposed to. |
| 21:28.56 | Gnarfoz | like I just said: |
| 21:29.09 | Gnarfoz | if you relogged/logged in in the timeframe where the easternmost EU timezone was already after midnight |
| 21:29.12 | znf | What do you mean how? I preordered the game from gamersloot.net, got the key 2 days before it launched |
| 21:29.18 | Gnarfoz | then you wouldn't have to relog *again* fo course. |
| 21:29.29 | znf | yeah, but I did the same with Cataclysm, and I had to relog, get it? :P |
| 21:29.34 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 21:29.39 | Gnarfoz | you just can't read, can you |
| 21:29.45 | znf | you're the one who can't read |
| 21:29.45 | Gnarfoz | it's a timezone thing :P |
| 21:30.06 | znf | fuck the timezone... I'm GMT+2, the game started for me at 1 AM |
| 21:30.53 | znf | I was logged on in the game and waiting for the zeppelin to spawn for at least 2 hours priour to 1 AM (my time zone) |
| 21:31.54 | nevcairiel | then you might've logged in just as the login servers were already activating the accounts, but the transport to the continent was still locked |
| 21:32.49 | znf | Could be that, but I don't know of anyone who already had the account logged on and had to relog to see the zeppelin or some crazy stuff like that, that's my point. |
| 21:32.53 | nevcairiel | which was only possible because of the seperate continent, some people managed to unlock their accounts 1-2 hours before midnight and actually farm high-level mobs for some xp :p |
| 21:33.03 | Gnarfoz | I just know people who had their accounts upgraded days in advance, who relogged each hour on the hour and at something like midnight UTC+3 they suddenly could board the boat to Northrend. |
| 21:33.47 | nevcairiel | in any case, we can all hope that we interpreted the framexml changes correctly and might be able to do without a relog |
| 21:33.54 | nevcairiel | that was very frustrating to say the least |
| 21:33.55 | Gnarfoz | what are they? |
| 21:34.21 | nevcairiel | there was a new event that changes your expansion level |
| 21:34.23 | Gnarfoz | and yes, losing realm first to some guy you've never heard of because he got in at 00:01 and you had to fight the login boss until 00:40... |
| 21:34.44 | znf | Yeah, they handled it poorly at Cataclysm when they asked everyone to relog in the same time |
| 21:34.51 | nevcairiel | and a comment in the code that says the expansion level may change while logged in when a expansion is released |
| 21:34.54 | Gnarfoz | btw, you had to relog for BC, too! :D |
| 21:34.56 | znf | "oh, we have 5mil+++ players, let's make them all relog in the same time" |
| 21:35.07 | Gnarfoz | 2.5-ish |
| 21:35.11 | nevcairiel | i doubt 5 million sat there at 0:00 |
| 21:35.23 | znf | exageration etc. |
| 21:35.43 | Gnarfoz | your choice of exaggerated number makes it clear you're making wrong assumptions, though :P |
| 21:36.00 | Gnarfoz | there's not 5M players in EU ;) |
| 21:36.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ah, it's good there's a comment pointing out what it's for ;) |
| 21:36.37 | nevcairiel | speaking of realm firsts, i wonder if i shall try again this year |
| 21:36.46 | znf | anyway, this is when I got my WoTLK key: http://i.imgur.com/DG0eE.png |
| 21:37.09 | znf | So a full week before it went live :P |
| 21:37.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah, fuck contracts |
| 21:37.28 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 21:37.29 | nevcairiel | i got my mop key like 5-6 weeks before it will go live! |
| 21:37.42 | znf | this was before the "digital upgrades" were available on battle.net |
| 21:37.52 | Gnarfoz | meaning what? |
| 21:37.55 | znf | well, you could upgrade to BC, actually :P |
| 21:37.56 | Gnarfoz | (and yeah, of course it was) |
| 21:38.03 | Stanzilla | Bogdan is a nice name |
| 21:38.12 | znf | but not to the newest expansion... I so hated blizzard for that |
| 21:38.29 | Gnarfoz | boohoo |
| 21:38.30 | znf | But luckily I didn't have issues with GamersLoot.net, I was quite impressed that they delivered the keys so fast |
| 21:38.36 | nevcairiel | for a game like WoW such street dates are kinda stupid anyway |
| 21:38.42 | nevcairiel | i realize they want midnight launch events and shit |
| 21:38.44 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 21:38.47 | znf | yup |
| 21:39.00 | znf | This was the only reason I didn't pick up WoTLK CE |
| 21:39.15 | znf | Because I had to either wait in line at a shit store 40kms away from home |
| 21:39.24 | znf | Or wait for the delivery the next day |
| 21:39.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: so this time, it'll be whose accounts gets processed by the backend first! :D |
| 21:39.35 | znf | Meaning I would have lost ~12hours, at least |
| 21:39.58 | Gnarfoz | realm first races are not for everyone. :P |
| 21:40.01 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: it already knows my account is upgraded, there is an API to ask it, the server just has to emit the event to unlock the content :) |
| 21:40.03 | Gnarfoz | can't really blame blizzard for that |
| 21:40.15 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hm? |
| 21:40.27 | znf | The portal will spawn for everyone at the same time, I guess? :P |
| 21:40.28 | Stanzilla | ARE YOU DUMB OR WHAT |
| 21:40.40 | znf | Just like they do with world events |
| 21:41.04 | Gnarfoz | so instead of people fighting the login boss, they'll just crash the world servers, :D |
| 21:41.12 | znf | yay \o/ |
| 21:41.22 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: GetAccountExpansionLevel() already returns "4" when you did digital upgrade, so the accounts i flagged |
| 21:41.28 | MysticalOS | portal? jade forrest has an intro chain now, you get a queset to see varian/garrosh, automatically, by walking into main city, do that crap, then do a series of events that get you out to jade forrest, you don't talk talk to portal panda anymore. |
| 21:41.32 | Gnarfoz | or maybe the "merge less populated zones" feature works in reverse too and overpopulated ones will be split/phased :D |
| 21:41.34 | nevcairiel | but GetExpansionLevel() still returns 3, because mop is not launched =p |
| 21:41.46 | MysticalOS | god i hope so gnarfoz, I doubt it |
| 21:41.59 | nevcairiel | MysticalOS: so we crash stormwind instead! |
| 21:42.02 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 21:42.04 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: and... |
| 21:42.05 | znf | MysticalOS, dunno how it is, haven't logged on in ages on the beta |
| 21:42.06 | Gnarfoz | !api expansion |
| 21:42.08 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'expansion': GetAccountExpansionLevel, CanUpgradeExpansion, GetExpansionLevel |
| 21:42.10 | Gnarfoz | what's the event? |
| 21:42.15 | Gnarfoz | !api level |
| 21:42.17 | nevcairiel | i forgot |
| 21:42.17 | lua_bot | Found 42 possible matches for 'level'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 21:42.18 | nevcairiel | let me check |
| 21:42.48 | znf | btw, anyone knows if blizzard still has the same architecture they had years ago? 1 machine == 1 realm ? |
| 21:42.54 | MysticalOS | UPDATE_EXPANSION_LEVEL |
| 21:42.55 | znf | or do they split the load somehow these days? |
| 21:43.04 | Gnarfoz | 1 machine was never 1 realm |
| 21:43.16 | Gnarfoz | continents are different machines |
| 21:43.28 | nevcairiel | they can have zones moved to dedicated realsm now, but not sure if they can split one zone |
| 21:43.37 | Gnarfoz | servers, you mean |
| 21:43.42 | nevcairiel | yeah wahtever :P |
| 21:43.52 | znf | So how were they auctioning those named servers a few months ago? |
| 21:44.01 | znf | They were labeled as a realm |
| 21:44.03 | Gnarfoz | you realize they had multiple per realm? |
| 21:44.25 | Gnarfoz | 4, actually. |
| 21:44.27 | znf | I was surely hoping for that, but was kind of weirded out when they advertised "this machine was the old Outland realm" :P |
| 21:44.39 | nevcairiel | there might as well be one command-and-control server per realm that dispatches to the continent servers and wahtnot |
| 21:44.40 | Gnarfoz | marketing speak |
| 21:44.59 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: realm server, world server... these structures become really obvious when looking at pservers |
| 21:45.05 | Gnarfoz | (or talking to blizzard people ;p) |
| 21:45.29 | Gnarfoz | the reverse engineering that goes into making a pserver is the interesting part ^^ |
| 21:46.05 | Gnarfoz | !api EXPANSION |
| 21:46.06 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'EXPANSION': GetAccountExpansionLevel, CanUpgradeExpansion, GetExpansionLevel |
| 21:46.11 | Gnarfoz | whyyy no event matching |
| 21:46.11 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 21:46.18 | nevcairiel | the event is new, page is old |
| 21:46.21 | znf | pserver? what's a pserver? |
| 21:46.26 | Gnarfoz | private server? |
| 21:46.57 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: then we should obviously hunt down jnwhiteh |
| 21:46.58 | znf | Ah |
| 21:46.58 | nevcairiel | how someone envisions the server should work does not necessarily have to resemble the real infrastructure all that closely |
| 21:47.30 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well... I'll just say "it matches pretty exactly" without going further into it ^^ |
| 21:48.11 | MysticalOS | elseif ( event == "UPDATE_EXPANSION_LEVEL" ) then |
| 21:48.11 | MysticalOS | EXPANSION_LEVEL = GetExpansionLevel(); |
| 21:48.13 | Gnarfoz | (or 'matched what the structures were in the beginning and for a very long time' - they might have changed things when they upgraded, added more and more x-realm stuff etc) |
| 21:48.24 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: smooth |
| 21:48.29 | Gnarfoz | I bet that's going to fail |
| 21:48.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:48.32 | Gnarfoz | somehow! |
| 21:48.37 | nevcairiel | xrealm stuff surely shuffled stuff around |
| 21:48.47 | nevcairiel | dungeon and raid servers moved to a central pool |
| 21:48.49 | nevcairiel | and whatnot |
| 21:48.59 | nevcairiel | now even zone servers can be merged |
| 21:49.08 | MysticalOS | ah and here |
| 21:49.11 | MysticalOS | elseif( event == "PLAYER_LEVEL_UP" or event == "ENABLE_XP_GAIN" or event == "DISABLE_XP_GAIN" or event == "UPDATE_EXPANSION_LEVEL" ) then |
| 21:49.12 | MysticalOS | ReputationWatchBar_UpdateMaxLevel(); |
| 21:49.12 | MysticalOS | ReputationWatchBar_Update(arg1); |
| 21:49.12 | MysticalOS | UIParent_ManageFramePositions(); |
| 21:49.21 | znf | I wish I could aspire to realm 1st :- |
| 21:49.34 | znf | But seeing how I'm on a really overpopulated realm, I can just dream |
| 21:49.53 | MysticalOS | i only see event called in LFDFrame and ReputationFrame |
| 21:50.22 | nevcairiel | not all that much might need to change |
| 21:50.33 | nevcairiel | although it would be mighty nice if some big on screen events announces the unlock :p |
| 21:50.50 | MysticalOS | but definitely looks promising, event fires, tells it to recheck your expansion level, and max level and exp bars |
| 21:50.56 | MysticalOS | sounds like no logout to me |
| 21:51.00 | MysticalOS | if it works |
| 21:51.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:51.21 | nevcairiel | if they are smart they'll test that on the ptr |
| 21:51.26 | Gnarfoz | never |
| 21:51.27 | Gnarfoz | why test? |
| 21:51.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:51.42 | znf | sleep time |
| 21:51.49 | znf | or nap time |
| 21:51.49 | znf | or something |
| 21:51.49 | Gnarfoz | they have a strict policy of ignoring bugs reported on PTRs and betas, some people say |
| 21:52.13 | Gnarfoz | (really, the stuff that made it through to live over the years that was reported months before on PTRs is mindblowing :D) |
| 21:52.24 | nevcairiel | Everytime i reported a broken quest it was fixed the next build, but maybe i was just lucky :D |
| 21:52.26 | Gnarfoz | what I still don't get: why did they remove the ingame bug report tool |
| 21:52.31 | Stanzilla | because blizzard QA is bad, was bad and will always be bad |
| 21:53.23 | nevcairiel | once they set a date they can only do so much |
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| 21:54.18 | znf | because I really doubt their ability to produce something working in-game? remember the broken inspect? |
| 21:54.23 | znf | (ui-wise) |
| 21:54.30 | MysticalOS | if event doesn't fire at midnight, i'm totally going to /script to call those functions event would have fired heh |
| 21:54.40 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: haha good idea |
| 21:54.51 | znf | their quest tracker is still broken, can't even be arsed to report it |
| 21:54.59 | Gnarfoz | just loop them once a minute and make a big alert if anything actually changes |
| 21:55.19 | nevcairiel | yeah just query GetExpansionLevel, and if it changes all is fine, the UI changes are not important |
| 21:55.24 | nevcairiel | reload ui if you must :p |
| 21:55.46 | nevcairiel | however my feeling is that the internal state of GetExpansionLevel would be tied to the same event |
| 21:55.47 | Gnarfoz | well, hmm |
| 21:55.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 21:56.01 | Gnarfoz | was just trying to form a sentence about that :D |
| 21:56.03 | znf | also, they probably removed the bug reporting feature because there's a lot of idiots playing this game and stuff like "where do I kill X?" were the biggest % of reported "bugs" |
| 21:56.14 | nevcairiel | yeah they invited too many morons this time |
| 21:56.33 | Gnarfoz | was it even still in in Cata beta? I don't remember... |
| 21:56.41 | nevcairiel | i guess it requires a bit more determination to actually post your issue on the forums |
| 21:56.46 | nevcairiel | i think it was, yes |
| 21:56.47 | znf | nevcairiel, indeed |
| 21:57.20 | znf | When I started logging on the beta, almost all questions on trade were "where do I find X?", "how do I do X?" and so |
| 21:57.33 | nevcairiel | thats trade and general for ya |
| 21:57.38 | nevcairiel | like live |
| 21:57.51 | znf | and, like, WHY ARE PURPLE BOXES EVERYWHERE?! |
| 21:58.02 | znf | that was a funny bug :D |
| 21:58.19 | nevcairiel | oh that one |
| 21:58.24 | nevcairiel | was easy enough to fix |
| 21:58.36 | znf | yeah, change graphic settings around and poof, fixed |
| 21:58.44 | nevcairiel | it was somehow tied to viewing distance |
| 21:58.49 | nevcairiel | reduced ti a bit and all good |
| 21:59.04 | nevcairiel | anyway sleepy time |
| 21:59.10 | znf | not really |
| 21:59.16 | znf | I discovered that wasn't true :D |
| 21:59.22 | znf | I reduced it to the minimum |
| 21:59.32 | nevcairiel | worked for me |
| 21:59.32 | znf | game eventually crashed, but got around to save it's settings meanwhile |
| 21:59.50 | znf | I logged on with minimum view distance, purple boxes everywhere. I actually had to increase view distance to get rid of it |
| 22:00.29 | nevcairiel | maybe it only worked at medium or something :D |
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| 22:00.43 | nevcairiel | anyway, zzzz |
| 22:05.28 | Gnarfoz | how do you disable server sync for settings again? |
| 22:10.12 | Stanzilla | cvar |
| 22:10.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah, which one! :D |
| 22:11.02 | Gnarfoz | (also, there was no api call? hm) |
| 22:11.21 | Stanzilla | synchronizeConfig |
| 22:11.44 | Stanzilla | I nuked my global macros file yesterday, very sad :( |
| 22:15.43 | Gnarfoz | restore from backup! |
| 22:18.44 | jnwhiteh | when ptr is up i'll do a re-scan |
| 22:18.48 | jnwhiteh | it was down earlier |
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| 22:23.58 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: backup what? |
| 22:24.25 | Stanzilla | I should start doing backups for that kind of stuff |
| 22:24.26 | Stanzilla | IN DA CLOUD |
| 22:24.31 | Gnarfoz | what, you don't have a script that you start wow through that backs up your wtf folder each time? |
| 22:24.35 | Gnarfoz | cloudlulz |
| 22:24.36 | Stanzilla | no |
| 22:24.44 | Gnarfoz | want mine? :p |
| 22:24.53 | Stanzilla | hrm |
| 22:25.07 | Stanzilla | I don't think i need it |
| 22:25.52 | Gnarfoz | yay, windows patch tuesday |
| 22:25.54 | Gnarfoz | *reboots* |
| 22:26.02 | Stanzilla | I'm such a clever guy |
| 22:26.08 | Stanzilla | restored from beta wtf folder :> |
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