| 00:04.26 | Repo | New addon: HandyNotes_LostAndFound - http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes_lostandfound/ |
| 00:06.46 | Repo | aloft: 03acapela * r454 Aloft (12 files in 3 directories): update with WoWInterface Aloft-5.0.3-2442. |
| 00:09.26 | Repo | aloft: 03acapela 045.0.3-2442 * r455 : Tagging as 5.0.3-2442 |
| 00:10.53 | Gnarfoz | good post |
| 00:11.01 | Repo | arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.4.1-43-g288b747 Database/Recipes/Cooking.lua: [+1 commit] Added the 550+ skill level trainable Way of the Grill Cooking recipes |
| 00:18.27 | Repo | pet-theory: 03Torhal 07master * 5.0.5-1.1.4-1-g0bb95d2 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Check for nil rarity (only happens immediately after learning a pet). |
| 00:22.27 | Repo | arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.4.1-44-ga5f7e52 Database/Recipes/Cooking.lua: [+1 commit] Added new Cooking recipe: Mogu Fish Stew .. mmmm. |
| 00:22.52 | durcyn | pompy: you going to add all 25 individually? |
| 00:25.52 | Repo | arl: 03resa1983 07master * 2.4.1-45-g2256a69 Database/Recipes/Cooking.lua: [+1 commit] Adding missing recipes |
| 00:41.40 | Dark_Elf | darn it curse client isnt updating again |
| 00:47.46 | znf | this wed. they're opening the whole MV to LFR, right? |
| 00:47.50 | znf | not only half or something like that? |
| 00:48.44 | Dark_Elf | dang rolling restart tomorrow |
| 00:49.54 | Repo | handynotes_lostandfound: 03Kemayo 07master * 6e456ec Lost.lua: [+1 commit] Option to show achievement-qualifiers only. Data for all zones. |
| 00:52.27 | Gnarfoz | znf: first half |
| 00:52.37 | znf | so only 3 bosses? |
| 00:52.47 | Gnarfoz | guess so? |
| 00:52.59 | znf | meh, boring |
| 00:53.14 | Gnarfoz | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/238599-mogushan-vaults-now-live-and-raid-schedule/ |
| 00:53.39 | Repo | handynotes_lostandfound: 03Kemayo 04v1 * 02eb4e5 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1 |
| 00:54.43 | znf | right |
| 00:54.49 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3855 / (4 files in 4 directories): - added level 90 BoE world epics |
| 01:04.20 | Repo | arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4.1-48-gd092b78 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 01:04.20 | Repo | d092b78: Apparently I had local changes to my cooking db, not sure how to revert them in git so bleh. |
| 01:04.20 | Repo | 5dea9ce: When automagically adding new recipes that are detected add default skill levels and default flags to make data entry slightly easier. |
| 01:04.21 | Repo | f10b048: Add error checking to see if the skill level is 0 or not (for automagically added recipes and/or recipes that we may have missed skill levels for. |
| 01:11.17 | znf | @project blizzbuffssuck |
| 01:11.18 | Repo | znf: Project "blizzbuffssuck" was not found. |
| 01:11.21 | znf | @project blizzbuffsuck |
| 01:11.21 | Repo | znf: Project "blizzbuffsuck" was not found. |
| 01:11.26 | znf | @project blizzbugssuck |
| 01:11.26 | Repo | znf: [WoW] BlizzBugsSuck (Updated Sep 06, 2012 at 02:59 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/blizzbugssuck/ |
| 01:14.44 | znf | @project breaker |
| 01:14.45 | Repo | znf: Project "breaker" was not found. |
| 01:14.47 | znf | bah |
| 01:14.57 | znf | someone said something about an addon to help with milling/prospecting etc |
| 01:14.58 | znf | which was it? |
| 01:15.53 | pompy | help in what way |
| 01:17.23 | Humbedooh | @project breakables |
| 01:17.23 | Repo | Humbedooh: [WoW] Breakables (Updated Aug 28, 2012 at 15:32 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/breakables/ |
| 01:17.43 | Humbedooh | ^- |
| 01:18.18 | Dark_Elf | @project panda |
| 01:18.19 | Repo | Dark_Elf: [WoW] Panda (Updated Sep 02, 2012 at 01:30 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/panda/ |
| 01:19.40 | znf | Dark_Elf, nobody updated it |
| 01:19.54 | Dark_Elf | ?? |
| 01:20.05 | znf | Panda |
| 01:20.12 | znf | nobody bothered to add cata stuff to it |
| 01:20.21 | Dark_Elf | i will look on github |
| 01:20.22 | znf | erm |
| 01:20.26 | znf | I mean tekkub |
| 01:20.43 | znf | I tried doing inscription (at least milling and inks) but I failed miserably |
| 01:24.12 | Ackis | Kemayo: fwiw you might want to add a package-as tag to the .pkgmeta so HandNotes_LostandFound has proper capitalization |
| 01:24.40 | Stanzilla | znf sb set done |
| 01:26.38 | Kemayo | Ackis: Good point. |
| 01:27.16 | znf | Stanzilla, already turned it in ages ago :P |
| 01:27.31 | Repo | handynotes_lostandfound: 03Kemayo 07master * v1-1-g3114727 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Include a pkgmeta |
| 01:28.06 | Stanzilla | znf: blabla, had to buy the remaining cards fro mthe horde |
| 01:28.12 | znf | lol |
| 01:28.58 | znf | @project handynotes |
| 01:28.59 | Repo | znf: [WoW] HandyNotes (Updated Aug 30, 2012 at 22:08 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes/ |
| 01:30.30 | znf | @project handynotes_lostandfound |
| 01:30.30 | Repo | znf: [WoW] HandyNotes_LostAndFound (Updated Oct 07, 2012 at 01:27 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes_lostandfound/ |
| 01:30.35 | znf | Kemayo, now do one for the rares |
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| 01:30.41 | Kemayo | znf: :P |
| 01:30.49 | Kemayo | @project silver-dragon |
| 01:30.49 | Repo | Kemayo: [WoW] SilverDragon (Updated Oct 05, 2012 at 23:35 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/silver-dragon/ |
| 01:31.02 | znf | Kemayo, ok, put them on the map somehow |
| 01:31.24 | Kemayo | SilverDragon puts them on the map. If you have HandyNotes installed. :D |
| 01:31.36 | znf | do I need to discover them first? |
| 01:31.41 | znf | or you have the db already? |
| 01:31.48 | znf | also, for the love of $deity, disable Alani by default... |
| 01:32.17 | Kemayo | There's an importable DB. If you don't click "import" they won't show up until you find 'em. |
| 01:32.26 | znf | I know that |
| 01:33.12 | Gnarfoz | I have to ask my question again: what's so special about SD that you're all so hot about it? |
| 01:33.23 | Gnarfoz | (compared to npcscan) |
| 01:33.29 | Dark_Elf | https://github.com/TekNoLogic/Panda |
| 01:33.32 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: syncing |
| 01:33.33 | znf | Gnarfoz, guild sync!!!! |
| 01:33.41 | znf | better default sound |
| 01:33.50 | znf | that doesn't scare the living shit out of you |
| 01:34.06 | Gnarfoz | it's supposed to, and since it's configurable, pretty much a non-argument :D |
| 01:34.11 | Gnarfoz | but I can see syncing |
| 01:34.58 | znf | dunno man |
| 01:35.00 | znf | it's overall nicer |
| 01:35.01 | Gnarfoz | ("THERE'S A RARE HERE" in guild chat works fine for us, mostly it's a matter of other evil players grabbing it before anyone can get there) |
| 01:35.04 | Gnarfoz | it is? |
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| 01:35.18 | znf | npcscan seems spartan compared to sd |
| 01:35.29 | Gnarfoz | spartan? try MediumRare for spartan |
| 01:35.30 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: It also works a bit harder than npcscan. NPCscan goes purely off the cache; SD checks tooltips and the like, which can be nice if you forgot to clear your cache before going out into the world. |
| 01:35.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 01:35.48 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: my wow start script deletes the cache *shrug* :D |
| 01:35.50 | znf | also triggers of party members targets |
| 01:36.04 | Gnarfoz | if a party member can target it, my alarm will have gone off :D |
| 01:36.30 | znf | Gnarfoz, our rare kills usually go like: "tag it and run around like an idiot until we get there and try to not get hit" |
| 01:36.39 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 01:36.50 | Gnarfoz | would just get ganked if you tried that here |
| 01:36.59 | znf | allies don't dare touch us :P |
| 01:37.36 | Gnarfoz | if there's "us", you could just kill it :D |
| 01:38.09 | znf | us in general |
| 01:38.19 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: Oh, also, SD includes data about leveling rares. NPCScan is just the top-level achievement ones. (You probably don't care, really, but I find it fun to grab 'em while I'm leveling.) |
| 01:38.25 | znf | we normally ignore alliance on our servers |
| 01:38.26 | Primer | touches znf |
| 01:38.36 | znf | on our server* |
| 01:38.45 | znf | if one passes trough 5 hordes, we won't really care |
| 01:38.54 | znf | if one touches another lowbie hordie, that's when we get mad :P |
| 01:39.57 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 01:40.10 | znf | Kemayo, the icon for lost & found sucks big time |
| 01:40.15 | znf | how am I supposed to see it? :( |
| 01:40.16 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: I guess besides getting others to use SD, there's not much in it for me :D |
| 01:40.44 | znf | Gnarfoz, it's better, that's all you need to know |
| 01:42.25 | znf | Stanzilla, supply of trinkets: http://i.imgur.com/idSo3.png |
| 01:43.34 | Gnarfoz | znf: it doesn't seem to be besides offering sync |
| 01:43.49 | znf | that's becuse you're not giving it a chance :P |
| 01:43.51 | Gnarfoz | spare me "it's better because it is", I like facts more :P |
| 01:43.57 | Stanzilla | wtf man |
| 01:43.59 | Gnarfoz | I've tried it on several occasions |
| 01:44.02 | Gnarfoz | what's wrong with you |
| 01:44.03 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 01:44.09 | Gnarfoz | last time last week |
| 01:44.15 | Gnarfoz | before that in cata |
| 01:44.17 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* |
| 01:44.28 | Gnarfoz | MediumRare I found annoying because it was TOO simple :D |
| 01:44.32 | Gnarfoz | is that even on curse |
| 01:44.36 | Gnarfoz | @project medium-rare |
| 01:44.36 | Repo | Gnarfoz: Project "medium-rare" was not found. |
| 01:44.37 | Gnarfoz | @project mediumrare |
| 01:44.38 | Repo | Gnarfoz: Project "mediumrare" was not found. |
| 01:44.42 | Gnarfoz | guess not, it's one of tekkub's |
| 01:45.08 | znf | Stanzilla, by morning the supply will probably double |
| 01:45.23 | znf | Gnarfoz, I used npcscan, this one is better! |
| 01:45.31 | Gnarfoz | how |
| 01:45.34 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 01:46.14 | znf | must try it |
| 01:46.22 | Gnarfoz | I did, didn't I just say that :p |
| 01:46.44 | Gnarfoz | anyway |
| 01:47.08 | Gnarfoz | it's like I said: guess not much it does is something I'd get a benefit from =] |
| 01:47.39 | Gnarfoz | I'll try getting some guilides to install it to check out the sync feature |
| 01:47.58 | Gnarfoz | in the mean time, please would someone fix my realm's AH api :C |
| 01:53.38 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: so if I clear out the cache on every startup, turning off the nameplate scraping (I use TidyPlates), mouseovers and targets would make no big difference, right? |
| 01:54.33 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: No big difference, yeah. |
| 01:56.04 | Gnarfoz | screen edge flashing doesn't seem to work when I try one of the test buttons? :\ |
| 02:06.07 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: Screen flashing only happens when there's a fullscreen panel up. (Like, if you're on the world map.) |
| 02:06.34 | Kemayo | That it's using the same behavior as screen-flashing for the blizzard combat stuff could be made more clear, I suppose. |
| 02:07.14 | Kemayo | znf: Hey, it's intuitive-ish! If there's no item, it's the icon for the lost and found achievement. If there's an item it's the item's icon. :) |
| 02:10.40 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: I see |
| 02:10.49 | Gnarfoz | also, what are you talking about re: L&F |
| 02:11.06 | Gnarfoz | I was hoping there's a set of handynotes or something for it |
| 02:11.23 | Gnarfoz | (guess the same cache scanning technique as for npcs doesn't quite work for world objects?) |
| 02:13.00 | Kemayo | @project handynotes_lostandfound |
| 02:13.01 | Repo | Kemayo: [WoW] HandyNotes_LostAndFound (Updated Oct 07, 2012 at 01:27 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes_lostandfound/ |
| 02:13.18 | Kemayo | And yeah, there's no way (that I know of) to cache-scan world objects. |
| 02:15.48 | Gnarfoz | is setting the scan interval to 0.5 performance sensitive btw? |
| 02:16.18 | Gnarfoz | at the kind of flight speeds flying mounts go these days, I fear 1.0 s might be too slow |
| 02:17.59 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3856 / (13 files in 4 directories): - updated Darkmoon Cards |
| 02:18.57 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: Depends on your computer. I honestly don't notice anything at 0.1, but I figured being conservative was nice. |
| 02:19.03 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 02:19.10 | Gnarfoz | and by default it doesn't scan in instances anyway |
| 02:19.21 | Gnarfoz | (or did I toggle that just now, no idea) |
| 02:20.01 | Kemayo | The cache scanning isn't terribly time-sensitive, mind. Especially since you get to click the popup to target things, and even at max-flying you're *probably* not going to get far enougn in one second to be out of targeting range. |
| 02:20.28 | Gnarfoz | we've had that happen in parties since MoP came out, while flying about |
| 02:20.41 | Gnarfoz | most of the time just flying back a bit was enough |
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| 02:23.36 | Kemayo | I've not yet been far enough from one to not have it targetable myself, so you might just be too awesome. :) |
| 02:23.45 | Gnarfoz | paladins! |
| 02:23.58 | Gnarfoz | also, argh that handynotes L&F icon is hard to see |
| 02:24.45 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 02:24.47 | Gnarfoz | it's item based |
| 02:24.48 | Gnarfoz | nm |
| 02:25.42 | Kemayo | I mean, I'm happy to change it if anyone has some cool intuitive suggestion. |
| 02:26.34 | Gnarfoz | no idea, item based just might result in some pretty hard to see combinations, but I don't have a better suggestion |
| 02:26.46 | durcyn | the achievement icon, imo |
| 02:26.57 | durcyn | which i believe is just a generic lockbox |
| 02:27.05 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 02:27.21 | Gnarfoz | or one of the prettier (read: newer) treasure chest icons? |
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| 02:43.56 | Repo | handynotes_lostandfound: 03Kemayo 07master * v1-3-g0f6f576 Lost.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 02:43.56 | Repo | 0f6f576: Add a junk item |
| 02:43.57 | Repo | 6232d10: Throw in a "just show the achievment icon" setting |
| 02:59.37 | Gnarfoz | ~wowalert |
| 02:59.37 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 03:17.36 | Gnarfoz | ~seen oscarucb |
| 03:17.37 | purl | oscarucb <~oscarucb@63.250.88.54> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17d 3h 44m 25s ago, saying: 'alright ty'. |
| 03:17.45 | Gnarfoz | hm, really |
| 03:17.46 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 03:25.59 | Gnarfoz | !api isinraid |
| 03:25.59 | lua_bot | IsInRaid: Returns whether the player is currently in a raid group (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsInRaid) |
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| 03:52.15 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3857 / (8 files in 3 directories): - started updating Inscription, Glyphes to go |
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| 04:10.36 | Repo | stratafix: 03gnarfoz * r46 StrataFix.lua: add an option to disable the chat message on load |
| 04:22.43 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: is it possible npcscan is interfering with the raid mark setting? |
| 04:23.00 | Gnarfoz | clicking SD's clicktarget thingy doesn't set the configured icon |
| 04:23.36 | Gnarfoz | (also more of a cosmetic note... the clicktarget frame seems rather bulky :o) |
| 04:24.47 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Bitching about AddOns since... |
| 04:24.48 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:25.22 | Gnarfoz | bitching? just saying what my impressions are |
| 04:34.18 | Repo | xloot-group: 03Xuerian 04z15-repack-release * 3e28c24 /: [new tag] Repack new libs |
| 04:42.13 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03ananhaid * r3858 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 04:47.46 | quiescens | pats gnarfoz |
| 04:48.26 | grokse | stuffs quiescens into a badger filled bag |
| 05:05.11 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 05:05.13 | purl | sylvanaar <~sylvanaar@pdpc/supporter/active/sylvanaar> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 17h 1m 38s ago, saying: 'how'd you like that, someone already committed the fix I was working on'. |
| 05:09.33 | grokse | boggle @ the ants in my kitchen... they were swarming the soap dispenser |
| 05:09.50 | End_ | delicious delicious soap |
| 05:10.22 | grokse | oO |
| 05:27.17 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz dick |
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| 05:27.20 | Stanzilla | using SD now? :D |
| 05:27.56 | nebula169 | i just started using SD, seems like the 3d model switches between portrait and full body randomly |
| 05:28.10 | nebula169 | the actual view of it, not the setting |
| 05:28.40 | grokse | slathers quiescens in antsoap |
| 05:32.26 | Kemayo | Torhal: My "Core.lua:174: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'rarity' (a nil value)" thing after catching a pet is still around, for what it's worth. |
| 05:33.53 | quiescens | dies. |
| 05:42.27 | Torhal | Kemayo: Shouldn't be if you update to the latest alpha. |
| 05:42.33 | Torhal | Damnable race-conditions. |
| 05:57.32 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: any idea about the icon setting thing? |
| 06:03.01 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: Oh, right. It's because you've got the scanning of targets turned off. Means that it doesn't know when a particular unit is your target, and thus can't set an icon on it. |
| 06:04.12 | nebula169 | Kemayo: happens for me and i have that on |
| 06:05.48 | Repo | gathermate2_data: 03kagaro * r205 / (3 files in 1 directory): GatherMate2_Data: Data update |
| 06:05.53 | Repo | gathermate2_data: 03kagaro 04v12.6 * r206 : GatherMate2_Data: Data update |
| 06:06.20 | Kemayo | nebula169: Interesting. I've not seen it fail, myself. Can I ask which version you're using? (Alpha, or release?) |
| 06:08.33 | Repo | ipop-bar: 03xinhuan 04v3.17 * r108 : Tag release v3.17. |
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| 06:09.58 | Gnarfoz | alpha, for me |
| 06:10.23 | nebula169 | alpha 3.0-15 |
| 06:11.09 | Kemayo | I assume no lua errors? |
| 06:11.41 | nebula169 | nope |
| 06:12.12 | Kemayo | Also, that clicking the popup successfully actually-targets the mob? |
| 06:12.23 | nebula169 | it does |
| 06:13.52 | Kemayo | Are you in a group? |
| 06:13.59 | nebula169 | no |
| 06:14.10 | Gnarfoz | all the same for me |
| 06:15.31 | Kemayo | It's the annoying sort of bug report where I'd like to be able to sit down at your computer for 5 minutes, because I'm certain it'd be easy to figure out if I was able to prod it in person. :P |
| 06:18.32 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: Did you say that you have _NPCScan still installed and enabled? |
| 06:19.42 | Gnarfoz | I did, then, I've turned it off a few minutes ago to make sure it's not because of that |
| 06:20.37 | Gnarfoz | I did have one popup only from SD, not npcscan, because I had already killed the NPC (or whatever reason) and it didn't work then |
| 06:20.54 | Gnarfoz | not having it loaded will give a better picture, though ^^ |
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| 06:33.13 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: Here's something you can check for me. If you target it and it doesn't apply the marker, could you go closer to it and then retarget it and see if that makes a difference? |
| 06:33.30 | Kemayo | It shouldn't really, but... |
| 06:33.52 | Gnarfoz | I'll check |
| 06:34.26 | Gnarfoz | however I do have target scanning off |
| 06:34.35 | Gnarfoz | that needs to be on, no matter what, right? |
| 06:34.45 | Kemayo | Oh, yes, that does. |
| 06:35.23 | Kemayo | I should probably adjust how it's written so that it works regardless. It's an unintuitive dependency. |
| 06:36.01 | Stanzilla | hellow friends |
| 06:44.32 | znf | heh |
| 06:44.40 | znf | same wake-up timer, Stanzilla ? |
| 06:45.00 | Stanzilla | nah, still awake |
| 06:47.30 | nebula169 | i have my target scanning on, tho ;[ |
| 06:48.20 | Kemayo | nebula169: Well, you can try the same thing. :P |
| 06:48.37 | nebula169 | i'm raiding right now, but i'll try afterward |
| 06:48.41 | nebula169 | the range thing? |
| 06:49.07 | Kemayo | Yup |
| 06:49.09 | Gnarfoz | dang, died to a rare |
| 06:49.10 | Gnarfoz | :F |
| 06:49.22 | Gnarfoz | mantid with blade flurry |
| 06:49.24 | Stanzilla | shame on you |
| 06:49.28 | Gnarfoz | one shotted me :C |
| 06:49.30 | Gnarfoz | from 90% hp |
| 06:49.36 | Stanzilla | standard |
| 06:50.08 | nebula169 | all the of the aoe shit they do hurts so bad |
| 06:50.24 | Kemayo | I'm enjoying the way rares are working in Pandaria. A level 86 panda rare killed me when I was 90, because I'd not seen that Crane Kick attack before. :P |
| 06:50.41 | Stanzilla | I usually kite them to death |
| 06:51.02 | Kemayo | I'm a melee, which makes that a bit more challenging. |
| 06:51.41 | Stanzilla | class? |
| 06:51.49 | nevcairiel | i died to some panda rare in the temple of the red crane because that f'ing thing could heal itself faster then i could kill or interrupt it :P |
| 06:51.59 | nevcairiel | and it had this spinning kick thing |
| 06:52.03 | nevcairiel | which was highly annoying |
| 06:52.09 | Stanzilla | those bitches are annoying |
| 06:52.14 | Stanzilla | when you kite them, they start casting |
| 06:52.20 | Stanzilla | and that cast hits for 240k |
| 06:52.24 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yeah, did just that... kited with word of glory, judge and exo until stun or knockdown became ready |
| 06:52.27 | Stanzilla | so you have to stand in melee |
| 06:53.19 | Kemayo | Stanzilla: DK. So I *can* kite, with Chains of Ice and judicious use of my small number of ranged attacks. But it's slooooooow. |
| 06:53.28 | Stanzilla | yeah :D |
| 06:54.59 | znf | Gnarfoz, the one next to the pvp vendor? :D |
| 06:55.03 | znf | in kun-lai summit? |
| 06:55.12 | Gnarfoz | there's a pvp vendor in kun-lai? ;o |
| 06:55.13 | znf | in the mountains? |
| 06:55.20 | znf | no, the pvp vendor is on the wall |
| 06:55.24 | Gnarfoz | no, vale, right next to the gate |
| 06:55.26 | znf | on the boarder of kun-lai and townlong |
| 06:55.33 | Repo | silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.0-18-g8d177b3 / (4 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 06:55.34 | Repo | 8d177b3: Rearrange mouseover/target scanning |
| 06:55.34 | Repo | f99f744: Don't automatically record location from cache hit |
| 06:55.35 | Repo | ca778c5: Proper event for achievement update (probably) |
| 06:55.44 | znf | but yeah, panda rares are f* dangerous |
| 06:55.44 | Gnarfoz | you mean border of valley and dread wastes? |
| 06:55.57 | znf | you know that one near mistfall village? |
| 06:56.04 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: That alpha will work for marking without having target-scanning turned on. |
| 06:56.05 | Gnarfoz | oh, you're horde |
| 06:56.21 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: ah, neat |
| 06:56.36 | znf | the misses with spinning crane kick and that ranged attack that does 320k damage in a go |
| 06:57.20 | znf | Ai-Ran the Shifting Cloud |
| 06:57.41 | Stanzilla | znf |
| 06:57.43 | Stanzilla | pay attention |
| 06:57.47 | znf | what? |
| 06:57.48 | Stanzilla | I just said that :< |
| 06:58.04 | Kemayo | The "get out of melee or you'll be one-shotted" followed by "get right back into melee or you'll be one-shotted" is a little bit harsh. |
| 06:58.23 | znf | Oh, you need to get into melee for that thing to not one-shot you? |
| 06:58.56 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 06:59.05 | Kemayo | Yeah, the panda rares only cast the ranged on-shot if you're out of melee range of them. |
| 06:59.17 | Stanzilla | so you run away for the crane kick |
| 06:59.19 | Stanzilla | then run back in |
| 06:59.33 | nevcairiel | and then they heal themself <.< |
| 06:59.35 | znf | it's funny because every time I see someone trying to kill her, I go "invite or you die" |
| 06:59.38 | Gnarfoz | heh, I got the Survival Ring quest for the first time |
| 06:59.40 | Gnarfoz | awesome shit |
| 06:59.56 | Kemayo | All this said, if I was running raids I would *so* require Could We Find More Like That (the one-of-every-type achievement) as a raiding prereq. :D |
| 06:59.59 | znf | then I /laugh when he dies and didn't invite me :D |
| 07:00.27 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: I found they heal themselves infrequently enough that I could interrupt it each time. I might have been lucky, though. |
| 07:00.28 | znf | Oh, or you know those fish-man with Rain Dance? |
| 07:00.44 | Gnarfoz | jinyu are funny, yeah |
| 07:00.46 | Kemayo | Rain Dance isn't bad. You just keep moving and it misses you. |
| 07:00.52 | znf | no, the torrent is bad :D |
| 07:00.59 | nebula169 | or you just change everything |
| 07:01.02 | nebula169 | and instantly stop it |
| 07:01.03 | nebula169 | :D |
| 07:01.07 | nebula169 | charge* |
| 07:01.12 | Kemayo | Torrent, yes, must be insta-interrupted. :P |
| 07:01.17 | znf | when he starts doing that torrent thing I pray for my silence to be off cd :( |
| 07:01.22 | znf | that or dispersion |
| 07:01.41 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: your interrupt might not be on a 1min cooldown |
| 07:01.52 | Stanzilla | DK is cheat |
| 07:01.54 | Stanzilla | they have 2 |
| 07:01.59 | Stanzilla | and if you can grip them, 3 |
| 07:02.15 | znf | I could have an interrupt too |
| 07:02.22 | Stanzilla | we have 2 |
| 07:02.23 | Stanzilla | mister znf |
| 07:02.33 | Gnarfoz | Rebuke, Stun, Knockdown; paladins, top CCers since 2012 |
| 07:02.33 | znf | but they decided to make them immune to fear and psychic horror |
| 07:02.34 | znf | >_< |
| 07:02.45 | nevcairiel | i guess if all else fails i could always cyclone them |
| 07:02.50 | nevcairiel | wonder if they are immune |
| 07:02.55 | znf | Stanzilla, 2? |
| 07:03.04 | Stanzilla | znf: I forgot about the horror immunity |
| 07:03.05 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: Yeah, only 15 seconds does kinda help. |
| 07:03.09 | znf | yeah :P |
| 07:03.14 | znf | fear & horror immunity |
| 07:03.20 | znf | you're fucked |
| 07:03.35 | znf | also, the biggest "fuck you" I got, was when a rare evaded IN PLAIN OPEN FIELD |
| 07:03.56 | znf | that Tide-Hunter in Blossom Vale |
| 07:04.03 | znf | I had him at like 20% |
| 07:04.06 | znf | then poof, evade for no reason |
| 07:04.10 | znf | I was ?!?!? |
| 07:04.31 | znf | Seriously, lvl90+ rares are harder than heroic bosses |
| 07:04.35 | znf | they need to add those to the training grounds |
| 07:05.23 | znf | also, wtb shorter CD on silence |
| 07:08.54 | znf | Kemayo, how "accurate" is handynotes inside caves? |
| 07:09.07 | znf | I think it's not at all, is it? |
| 07:10.52 | Kemayo | znf: Not at all, no. |
| 07:10.54 | Gnarfoz | ASDIOAUGHIJGnh] |
| 07:10.57 | Gnarfoz | GRAAA |
| 07:11.13 | Gnarfoz | kill 60 idiots with a single shado-pan torch |
| 07:11.25 | Stanzilla | that achievements is sooo bugged :D |
| 07:11.27 | Gnarfoz | 59/60 like a bawss |
| 07:11.35 | Kemayo | znf: In particular, it's not been updated for the new "mini dungeon" stuff, where some caves have their own special drawn maps. |
| 07:11.41 | Gnarfoz | only to get kicked out of the cannon |
| 07:11.54 | znf | right that's what I thought |
| 07:12.40 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: how? I thought it was pretty straight forward |
| 07:12.42 | Gnarfoz | and worked fine |
| 07:12.57 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I got it for just standing there |
| 07:13.00 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03celellach * r3859 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 07:13.02 | Gnarfoz | except thanks to monomyth I auto-finished it and accepted the followup |
| 07:13.02 | Repo | - Split the Golden Lotus and Lorewalkers as the Golden Lotus now has a full page and there is no reason for them to be together. |
| 07:13.02 | Repo | - Ordered the factions in the file alphabetically as its also written in the legend. |
| 07:13.19 | Gnarfoz | and I guess then some kind of timeout kicked in and spat me out of the cannon |
| 07:13.20 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 07:13.56 | Kemayo | znf: I've been considering touching that part myself since it bugs me... but have been lazy, on the theory that Xinhuan will probably get to it. :D |
| 07:14.13 | Xinhuan | sup? |
| 07:14.30 | znf | my god... these bloody caves with mining nodes are close to a nightmare |
| 07:14.35 | znf | SHINY YELLOW DOTS EVERYWHERE |
| 07:14.42 | znf | and no matter how much you mine, they keep coming back |
| 07:14.45 | nevcairiel | turn of tracking |
| 07:15.13 | znf | but, but.. |
| 07:15.18 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: Oh, it's the new "mini dungeon" things. They function like little sub-zones, with their own coordinates. |
| 07:15.30 | Xinhuan | i have no idea what you are talking about ^^ |
| 07:15.37 | Xinhuan | (i'm still lvl 85) |
| 07:15.45 | durcyn | caves and such have their own maps now |
| 07:15.53 | Xinhuan | really |
| 07:16.03 | Xinhuan | do 2 identical caves layout share the same map? |
| 07:16.11 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: what durcyn said. Sometimes you go into a cave, pop the map, and you have an actual working map of it. |
| 07:16.17 | nebula169 | don't think it affects coords, though |
| 07:16.24 | Xinhuan | it does nebula169 |
| 07:16.28 | nebula169 | ah |
| 07:16.32 | Xinhuan | the coords are retrieved directly off the map |
| 07:16.43 | nevcairiel | the caves are named, the name is usually printed on the map, so no sharing |
| 07:16.55 | Xinhuan | and it is saved along with the map's name |
| 07:16.56 | nevcairiel | however, the API doesnt work as with normal maps |
| 07:17.00 | znf | let me explain Xinhuan |
| 07:17.06 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/xJtL5.jpg |
| 07:17.21 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: welp |
| 07:17.21 | Xinhuan | so |
| 07:17.32 | Xinhuan | as far as i'm concerned, its just a new zone |
| 07:17.35 | Gnarfoz | I just flew down to in front of the gate, and killed one "by hand" |
| 07:17.35 | Xinhuan | yes? |
| 07:17.39 | nevcairiel | no its not |
| 07:17.40 | Gnarfoz | -> achievement |
| 07:17.42 | Kemayo | There's a new return from GetMapInfo, for "is mini dungeon" |
| 07:17.44 | znf | Kemayo, http://i.imgur.com/O8EUl.jpg |
| 07:17.45 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Different map ID, yes |
| 07:17.45 | nevcairiel | you're still in the same zone |
| 07:17.46 | znf | see? :P |
| 07:17.51 | Xinhuan | good god |
| 07:18.02 | nevcairiel | they made it more complicated then that :p |
| 07:18.11 | nevcairiel | getmapinfo still returns the parent zone |
| 07:18.18 | Kemayo | Rewriting everything to work based on map id? Tempting! |
| 07:18.21 | nevcairiel | however, also a flag to indicate you're in a micro dungeon |
| 07:18.28 | Xinhuan | how do u get the map to display? |
| 07:18.31 | nevcairiel | (and which) |
| 07:18.41 | Kemayo | Oh, wow, they retrofitted them into the old world. I am kind of surprised. |
| 07:18.43 | nevcairiel | framexml displays maps :P |
| 07:18.44 | Xinhuan | oh, so it has 2 new return types? |
| 07:18.58 | Kemayo | (I went off to check a cave in Elwynn Forest.) |
| 07:18.59 | Xinhuan | isdungeon, and dungeonmapname or something like that |
| 07:19.00 | Torhal | nevcairiel: GetMapInfo() returns the micro-dungeon IF the map frame is shown. It's insanely retarded. |
| 07:19.05 | Gnarfoz | 38 daily quests completed... that's one less than usual, guess the golden lotus ones are getting fewer? o_O |
| 07:19.17 | Xinhuan | "IF"? |
| 07:19.21 | Xinhuan | whatcha mean |
| 07:19.22 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: depending on which hub is active, it may be one less |
| 07:19.39 | znf | Kemayo, CAVERNS OF TIME NOW HAS A MAP KK?!?!?!? |
| 07:19.43 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: GetMapInfo() => "Elwynn", 668, 768, true, "JasperlodeMine" |
| 07:19.44 | Torhal | Yes. If you use GetMapInfo() in one of the Shrines, you'll get 811. If you show the map then call it, you'll get 903 or 905 depending on which Shrine |
| 07:19.59 | Xinhuan | um, shrine? |
| 07:20.02 | Torhal | Close the map, it gives 811 again |
| 07:20.11 | Kemayo | Versus GetMapInfo() => "Elwynn", 668, 768, false |
| 07:20.14 | Torhal | You can't go there until 90 |
| 07:20.15 | Xinhuan | sorry, i'm confused |
| 07:20.19 | nevcairiel | shrine = new major citys in panda land :p |
| 07:20.21 | Xinhuan | (i'm still 85....) |
| 07:20.23 | Torhal | They're Alliance/Horde hubs |
| 07:21.03 | Xinhuan | so Kemayo, you have a proposed fix? |
| 07:21.18 | Kemayo | Torhal: I see GetMapInfo() returning the micro-dungeon even when the map is closed, for what it's worth. |
| 07:21.51 | Torhal | Kemayo: Then the Shrines are weird. And the Alliance Shrine didn't return its actual ID at all for me (I'm Horde so that may be why) |
| 07:22.13 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I suppose a proposed fix would be to just use the fifth return of GetMapInfo as the zone if it's present. |
| 07:22.20 | nevcairiel | its possible you have some addon that changes the zone to the parent zone when the map is closed to get coordinates off that @ Torhal |
| 07:22.36 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Fucking AddOns. They should be banned! |
| 07:22.41 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 07:23.11 | Xinhuan | i'll tell you straight off, routes probably isn't going to be fixed by me for at least another 1-2 weeks |
| 07:23.34 | Xinhuan | my realm's login queue is 3 hours long at peak |
| 07:23.40 | Torhal | Xinhuan: While you're in there fixing it, make it more robust. I'd like to be able to switch between routes in a zone :P |
| 07:23.40 | nevcairiel | with the vast number of mining nodes and herbs around, who needs routes anymore |
| 07:23.44 | Xinhuan | and 1 hour long off-peak |
| 07:24.01 | Xinhuan | technically, there is a fubar-plugin that allows you to do that |
| 07:24.07 | Xinhuan | i discontinued it though |
| 07:24.12 | Torhal | :P |
| 07:24.37 | Xinhuan | or you should just have a master route that contains everything! |
| 07:24.57 | Xinhuan | also gatherer's API is completey re-written |
| 07:25.05 | Xinhuan | so it has new storage system as well, etc |
| 07:25.05 | Torhal | If I don't care about Green Tea Leaf and only want the Rain Poppy... |
| 07:25.17 | Xinhuan | therefore, that part of the addon also has to be re-written |
| 07:25.32 | Xinhuan | as such, i'm probably not touching the addon for a few weeks |
| 07:25.35 | Torhal | I blame Ackis. |
| 07:25.56 | znf | touches Xinhuan and blames Torhal |
| 07:26.06 | Torhal | Weirdo, |
| 07:26.25 | znf | Xinhuan, give cross-zone routes! |
| 07:26.44 | Xinhuan | your computer will run out of ram calculating it |
| 07:27.11 | durcyn | how about connectors that you can manually draw across zone borders that route generation will use as endpoints then |
| 07:27.27 | Xinhuan | i'll accept patches, durcyn ;) |
| 07:27.39 | durcyn | i'll get right on it |
| 07:27.51 | znf | Xinhuan, nO IT WONT!!! :( |
| 07:27.55 | Xinhuan | routes is already limited to 729 nodes, because that is the maximum a 1D array can hold (729 squared is just under the 4 mb limit for an array) |
| 07:28.32 | Xinhuan | or is it 721 nodes |
| 07:29.16 | znf | ok, fix it then |
| 07:30.32 | durcyn | just write an out of game TSP that populates the savedvars, znf, i'll wait right here |
| 07:30.42 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 07:30.58 | znf | durcyn, I refuse to do such thing! |
| 07:31.09 | Xinhuan | i use variables like zone-size in the calculations :P |
| 07:31.09 | znf | though, you know what would be really nice? :P |
| 07:31.19 | znf | a out-of-game DPS calculator :D |
| 07:31.22 | znf | like skada, but outside the game |
| 07:31.38 | Xinhuan | skada isn't a calculator |
| 07:31.40 | durcyn | you should probably stop talking now |
| 07:31.41 | nevcairiel | its called world of logs |
| 07:31.41 | Torhal | thinks znf should write a meter for DPS meters. |
| 07:31.51 | Xinhuan | its just a log display |
| 07:31.58 | znf | nevcairiel, give instant, then :P |
| 07:32.07 | nevcairiel | it has a live upload thingy |
| 07:32.16 | znf | yeah, but it's not instant :) |
| 07:32.16 | durcyn | the combatlog is only flushed periodically, you can't get instant |
| 07:33.04 | quiescens | you could, it would just break some rules |
| 07:33.53 | znf | I hope my computer will handle all the combat log parsing in 25m raids in new instances |
| 07:34.15 | Xinhuan | a dps calculator would be for example, Rawr, or simulationcraft |
| 07:34.27 | znf | well, you know what I meant |
| 07:34.58 | Xinhuan | my login queue flunctuates between says 2-5 hour wait time |
| 07:35.12 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 07:35.14 | Xinhuan | just saw a "817 minutes" |
| 07:35.30 | quiescens | ): |
| 07:35.37 | quiescens | take a nap and play tomorrow |
| 07:36.02 | Xinhuan | 2370->1267 in 1 hour 29 min so far lol |
| 07:36.13 | Xinhuan | i have 1.5 hours to chat ^^ |
| 07:36.33 | znf | you're US right? |
| 07:36.38 | Xinhuan | oceanic |
| 07:36.46 | durcyn | SG, iirc |
| 07:36.47 | Xinhuan | its 3pm |
| 07:37.05 | znf | right |
| 07:37.21 | znf | our guildies go in RFC and get hit by mobs there so they don't get logged out |
| 07:37.38 | Xinhuan | mages can't do that lol |
| 07:37.47 | znf | yeah they can |
| 07:37.59 | znf | get naked, aggro one mob |
| 07:38.00 | znf | let it hit you |
| 07:38.01 | znf | afk |
| 07:38.06 | Xinhuan | it will kill you |
| 07:38.09 | znf | nope |
| 07:38.26 | Xinhuan | 3 damage at a time |
| 07:38.28 | Xinhuan | it will kill you |
| 07:38.32 | znf | you heal back |
| 07:38.36 | Xinhuan | you don't heal in combat |
| 07:39.24 | znf | did you try it? :P |
| 07:39.33 | Xinhuan | ages ago, yes |
| 07:40.09 | Xinhuan | i even had an addon that prevented you from being logged out, but that got patche |
| 07:40.28 | quiescens | as far as i remember regular hp regen doesn't happen in combat, only things like troll regen and items with hp/5s |
| 07:40.37 | znf | one of my shamans seems to be in there for like 5 hours now |
| 07:40.59 | Xinhuan | yeah, unless you are forgetting to tell me he has some hp/5 gear |
| 07:41.09 | Xinhuan | or some special trinket that has a heal on being hit |
| 07:41.12 | znf | dunno |
| 07:41.23 | Xinhuan | i assure you hp doesn't regen otherwise |
| 07:41.49 | nevcairiel | it would probably take hours to get killed anyway |
| 07:41.51 | ZaB|SHC| | even without healing it shouldn't be a big deal. assuming you have 300k life, it'll take more than one day to get killed. |
| 07:42.21 | Xinhuan | i'm lvl 85, i don't have 300k life |
| 07:42.22 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 07:43.02 | Xinhuan | also, RFC is lvl 11 or something, the alliance equivalent is lvl 25 stockades |
| 07:43.04 | ZaB|SHC| | in this case it'll take half a day to get killed. enough time to sleep, come back, get some healing and start over again. |
| 07:43.10 | Xinhuan | the damage is about 10x larger |
| 07:43.41 | quiescens | reroll horde |
| 07:43.50 | Xinhuan | especially if you're naked |
| 07:44.12 | nevcairiel | so run to deathmines :p |
| 07:44.15 | Xinhuan | if you can use a shield, with block |
| 07:44.20 | Xinhuan | its probably fine |
| 07:44.23 | Xinhuan | shamans can use shields |
| 07:44.32 | Xinhuan | just block all the damage |
| 07:44.32 | znf | leave neck & trinkets on :D |
| 07:44.39 | nevcairiel | blocking works differently now, you dont block a flat amount of damage anymore |
| 07:44.43 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 07:44.46 | Xinhuan | when did that change |
| 07:44.52 | Stanzilla | cata |
| 07:45.16 | nevcairiel | they realized that tanks could just run old content without taking one point of damage |
| 07:45.21 | nevcairiel | so now its a percentage |
| 07:45.49 | nevcairiel | which actually makes it better in high-end content :p |
| 07:49.29 | znf | well, this makes me quit realm-hopping for that stupid padaren axe: http://i.imgur.com/P1YKh.jpg |
| 07:49.31 | znf | :-\ |
| 07:50.07 | quiescens | reported |
| 07:50.29 | znf | lol, zoning in different realms triggers your Glyph of the Chameleon :D |
| 07:51.49 | znf | reports quiescens for excessive moo-ing |
| 07:52.07 | Gnarfoz | znf: gimme dat, I'mma mill the shit outta dat |
| 07:52.12 | Gnarfoz | mill... prospect |
| 07:52.16 | znf | Gnarfoz, not mine |
| 07:52.27 | znf | I was looking for info for that ancient pandaren mining pick |
| 07:52.28 | Gnarfoz | idd, mine! :D |
| 07:52.34 | znf | that gives you gems when you mine |
| 07:52.39 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 07:52.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know the one |
| 07:52.47 | znf | and that's what the guy had in his bags after a run with it |
| 07:52.47 | Gnarfoz | litte quary in JF |
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| 07:53.42 | znf | 5 gems with all those stacks? fuck that |
| 07:54.10 | Xinhuan | you're suposed to prospect it :P |
| 07:54.14 | Xinhuan | if you want gems! |
| 07:54.26 | Xinhuan | but that is a lot of gold heh |
| 07:54.34 | Xinhuan | how much is one stack on your server? |
| 07:54.46 | znf | they dropped to 100g/stack for ghost iron ore |
| 07:55.00 | Xinhuan | that is 111 stacks |
| 07:55.12 | Xinhuan | so 11,100g there |
| 07:57.33 | znf | I want high-society top hat |
| 07:57.34 | znf | :-/ |
| 08:02.28 | znf | aah, I love how the server "moves" in the morning |
| 08:02.34 | znf | instant withdrawal from the mail |
| 08:03.08 | asmodai | yawns |
| 08:03.26 | znf | at peak times it's at least 50-150ms delay for every stack you pick up from the mailbox |
| 08:06.04 | asmodai | Torhal: btw, thanks, saw you managed to find a rarity bug after all |
| 08:06.19 | znf | Torhal, is always like "man, I can't fix this shit" |
| 08:06.22 | znf | then he goes and fixes it |
| 08:06.45 | Torhal | asmodai: Naw, I just thought some of my other fixes would make a "if not rarity then" check unnecessary |
| 08:06.49 | Torhal | So I finally added that |
| 08:09.44 | asmodai | Torhal: ok, but it was relevant |
| 08:09.56 | Torhal | Heh |
| 08:09.56 | asmodai | Torhal: I had not caught that one rabbit yet when I had those errors |
| 08:10.04 | Torhal | Ah |
| 08:10.12 | asmodai | and it went away after I caught a rare one or something like that |
| 08:10.20 | asmodai | so it might actually be quite related :) |
| 08:10.40 | asmodai | Will check again today, but last few hours last night were ok for me |
| 08:11.37 | Stanzilla | znf biatch |
| 08:11.43 | Stanzilla | what's the inner cd of the darkmoon trinket |
| 08:12.36 | znf | no idea yet |
| 08:12.40 | znf | I'm assuming 45s |
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| 08:15.40 | nevcairiel | 50s icd |
| 08:20.25 | quiescens | always |
| 08:25.00 | asmodai | I don't get this |
| 08:25.14 | asmodai | enemy npc, I tag him, yet he turns grey, not red? |
| 08:25.22 | asmodai | no one else attacking him |
| 08:25.45 | Stanzilla | thank you nevcairiel |
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| 08:31.20 | znf | Stanzilla, I need better trinkets! :( |
| 08:31.38 | znf | well, better 2ndary trinket |
| 08:31.49 | znf | I only have that one with crit proc :( |
| 08:31.54 | znf | and I lose tons of haste if I equip it |
| 08:32.03 | znf | so I need to use that stupid stopwatch |
| 08:32.29 | Stanzilla | same |
| 08:32.36 | Stanzilla | but the clicky one won't drop for me |
| 08:32.38 | Stanzilla | same as pants |
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| 08:32.39 | Stanzilla | and head |
| 08:32.40 | Stanzilla | fml |
| 08:32.41 | znf | yup |
| 08:32.44 | znf | I need pants & trinket too |
| 08:32.53 | quiescens | use the piccolo |
| 08:32.54 | znf | last resort - I'll go pvp pants |
| 08:32.57 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 08:33.00 | quiescens | does that still work |
| 08:33.21 | znf | I'll get the ones with massive haste at a lower ilvl (558) |
| 08:33.24 | znf | 458* |
| 08:33.28 | quiescens | blizz had a habit of removing the fun ranom stuffs |
| 08:33.45 | asmodai | Mists of Pandaria: the knockback and interrupt edition |
| 08:33.56 | quiescens | random* |
| 08:33.58 | asmodai | I am getting real tired of knockbacks and interrupts by now |
| 08:34.19 | quiescens | interrupts |
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| 08:35.40 | Repo | shared-media-additional-fonts: 03pb_ee1 041.0.11-beta * r77 : Tagging as 1.0.11-beta |
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| 08:46.12 | nebula169 | elegon is so brutal ;[ |
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| 08:57.01 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 08:57.13 | Stanzilla | such a joke in 10 man and so hard in 24 |
| 08:57.14 | Stanzilla | *5 |
| 09:00.47 | Torhal | asmodai: I had the grey thing happen to me earlier. |
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| 09:06.02 | znf | my friend farmed for 7 hours yesterday and all he got was 1 lotus |
| 09:06.02 | znf | ... |
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| 09:10.50 | asmodai | Torhal: Yeah, really weird |
| 09:10.56 | asmodai | Torhal: happened a few times now :S |
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| 09:43.17 | sb | znf: fail :p |
| 09:43.26 | sb | Stanzilla: easy in 10? |
| 09:44.00 | Stanzilla | yes sb |
| 09:44.20 | sb | mh.... |
| 09:44.45 | sb | ppl QQing "impossible" with "3 melee + 3 healer" and stuff |
| 09:51.47 | sb | Stanzilla: 2 or 3 healers? |
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| 09:54.59 | Stanzilla | sb: idk |
| 09:55.01 | Stanzilla | znf: http://de.twitch.tv/sixthedk |
| 09:55.05 | quiescens | 7 |
| 10:03.02 | znf | Stanzilla, ?! |
| 10:03.14 | znf | Die Inhalte dürfen nicht angebracht |
| 10:03.25 | znf | because screw your german |
| 10:04.44 | Stanzilla | wtf |
| 10:04.51 | Stanzilla | he's at a pretty cool farming spot |
| 10:04.55 | Stanzilla | farming keys and skyshards |
| 10:07.24 | sb | no, texting on phone |
| 10:08.21 | sb | instant-respawn mobs? |
| 10:08.24 | sb | wtf |
| 10:08.40 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 10:08.41 | sb | so DK + afk |
| 10:08.46 | Stanzilla | inb4 hotfix tomorrow |
| 10:08.48 | sb | i can do this |
| 10:11.46 | Stanzilla | will be a huge pain in the ass as a caster |
| 10:12.03 | sb | rogue then :p |
| 10:12.40 | sb | wtf :( |
| 10:14.53 | znf | Stanzilla, why? |
| 10:15.01 | znf | I could probably stay there for hours without an issue |
| 10:19.47 | sb | but DK is like auto-fire on deathstrike + afk :D |
| 10:20.35 | znf | I will most likely die of boredom though :D |
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| 10:25.42 | Repo | pet-theory: 03Torhal 07master * 5.0.5-1.1.4-2-g70995cd Core.lua: [+1 commit] Added the ability to summon a pet on double-click of the list button. |
| 10:30.59 | znf | Stanzilla, figured what the hidden quest is in Klaxxi @ the lake? |
| 10:36.32 | sb | what what what? |
| 10:39.48 | Repo | gnomish-interrupter: 03ywfn * r38 GnomishInterrupter.lua: Stop trying to print to party line after leaving party |
| 10:41.34 | sb | @project gnomish-interrupter |
| 10:41.35 | Repo | sb: [WoW] GnomishInterrupter (Updated Oct 07, 2012 at 10:39 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomish-interrupter/ |
| 10:42.38 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3860 / (9 files in 4 directories): - completed Inscription, glyphs are in ;) |
| 10:45.22 | znf | sb, there should be 3 hidden quests @ klaxxi |
| 10:45.25 | znf | one is the summoning altar |
| 10:45.31 | znf | the other one is the worm |
| 10:45.42 | znf | but I can't figure out which is the 3rd one |
| 10:46.34 | sb | where are the first 2? |
| 10:46.40 | sb | other 2 :/ |
| 10:47.18 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r3861 Menus/RepMenus.lua: - fix golden lotus logo |
| 10:47.25 | znf | sb, http://www.blizzplanet.com/blog/comments/the-secret-hidden-extra-klaxxi-daily-quest |
| 10:48.51 | znf | FOUND IT |
| 10:49.09 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=64724 |
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| 10:54.36 | wink | hey folks |
| 10:54.55 | znf | zzzz, I'm just spending here 30 minutes to craft potions >_< |
| 10:55.16 | wink | anyone got an idea how to contact evl? |
| 10:55.24 | znf | evl? |
| 10:55.38 | wink | addon author of a while ago :P |
| 10:55.40 | znf | what addon and what seems to be the problem? |
| 10:55.46 | wink | evl_SliceDice |
| 10:55.47 | znf | or you simply want to contact him? |
| 10:55.52 | nevcairiel | hm i havent seen him around for a long time |
| 10:55.56 | wink | and the problem is that he ignored a pull request last year |
| 10:56.00 | haste | wink: you could try mailing him through wowinterface |
| 10:56.05 | haste | ~seen evl |
| 10:56.09 | purl | evl <~evl@unaffiliated/evl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 606d 1h 33m 35s ago, saying: 'Hmms, all my guilds mages are Frost but I see all the Paragon guys are Fire, is ther some kind of gear threshold where Fire surpasses Frost? I can't find any info'. |
| 10:56.09 | wink | and now I'd like to start maintaining that addon |
| 10:56.12 | znf | is it on wowace? |
| 10:56.17 | znf | because I can't see it |
| 10:56.29 | wink | yeah, I could check all addon sites. |
| 10:56.38 | wink | this was jsut.. maybe someone knew something :) |
| 10:56.45 | wink | I'll go ahead and investigate |
| 10:57.04 | wink | just made SliceDice work for his own Rogues again |
| 10:57.17 | znf | again... on what website is that addon hosted? |
| 10:57.23 | haste | wowinterface |
| 10:59.21 | znf | sb, which Klaxxi dailies do you have today? |
| 10:59.26 | znf | spiders? island? or the other? |
| 11:01.14 | znf | slaps SB |
| 11:01.22 | sb | will check later |
| 11:01.31 | znf | >_< |
| 11:01.57 | sb | check where i am!? :P |
| 11:05.35 | asmodai | OMG |
| 11:05.38 | asmodai | like more pet theory updates |
| 11:05.40 | asmodai | crazy Torhal |
| 11:11.34 | Torhal | asmodai: Shit, I would have done a LOT more had I not been doing work stuff instead. |
| 11:11.36 | Torhal | Maybe today. |
| 11:11.56 | Torhal | Anywho, bed for a few hours. |
| 11:15.05 | quiescens | like, 1-2 or? |
| 11:16.03 | wink | hm, how do I debug output to chatwindows again? |
| 11:17.14 | wink | nvm, I'm stupid |
| 11:20.46 | asmodai | Torhal: sleep well :) |
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| 11:36.16 | asmodai | Jesus, some people really destroy the AH with their idiotic prices |
| 11:42.15 | znf | qq more :P |
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| 11:46.18 | znf | ...why is there raid finder BoE gear? o.O |
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| 12:45.22 | asmodai | How is it even possible for other people to gain on you and move beyond you using taxis? o_O |
| 12:45.46 | asmodai | Do passive movement skills work for taxis too? |
| 12:45.59 | nevcairiel | guild bonus that makes taxis go faster |
| 12:46.45 | asmodai | ah |
| 12:46.58 | asmodai | haven't been in a guild in ages XD |
| 12:52.10 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Maybe I should set up a guild for my alts XD |
| 12:55.31 | nevcairiel | i would just join some friendly-looking guild |
| 13:01.52 | wink | on a remote server I'm in this lvl 25 guild called Storage that invites everyone and provides benefits |
| 13:02.15 | wink | I suppose the GM logs in monthly to cash in the guild funds created by the 10% perk :P |
| 13:02.33 | nevcairiel | yeah there is plenty of those guilds on every server |
| 13:02.41 | nevcairiel | just recruit as many people as possible, and hope for money |
| 13:03.29 | znf | wink, those funds aren't that much :P |
| 13:03.54 | wink | znf: I'm not saying it's feasible, but I love the concept :) |
| 13:04.10 | znf | also, how can you not be in a guild? :P |
| 13:04.22 | znf | if I leave my guild, I get spammed by like 50 guild invites in 2 minutes |
| 13:04.32 | nevcairiel | its 10% on looted money, if you have 100 people in there, its at least something, and it doesnt cost anything =p |
| 13:04.53 | wink | unless you buy bag slots, but yea |
| 13:05.01 | wink | s,bag,guild bank, |
| 13:06.31 | nevcairiel | they also hope for guild challenges to be completed |
| 13:06.36 | nevcairiel | if people happen to run guild dungeons |
| 13:06.38 | nevcairiel | and whatnot |
| 13:22.23 | nevcairiel | oh well, my realm just died |
| 13:22.50 | sb | nice |
| 13:23.00 | sb | maybe znf tried to login |
| 13:23.06 | nevcairiel | possibly |
| 13:23.12 | znf | I haxxed |
| 13:23.16 | znf | stop pissing me off, nevcairiel |
| 13:23.18 | znf | that's what you get! |
| 13:23.19 | nevcairiel | first pandaria went down, i was like, haha, i'm in outlands |
| 13:23.25 | nevcairiel | then everythign died |
| 13:25.55 | wink | lol |
| 13:37.06 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:37.10 | quiescens | maybe if you were hiding in an instance |
| 13:38.19 | asmodai | wth, can't even fly on Azuremyst Isle |
| 13:38.29 | asmodai | Not considered part of Azeroth eh? |
| 13:38.35 | quiescens | are you supposed to be able to |
| 13:39.11 | asmodai | given the flightmaster's license allows you to fly all over Azeroth :P |
| 13:39.26 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
| 13:39.26 | asmodai | Wonder if you can around Silverymoon |
| 13:39.34 | znf | asmodai, you can't in BC araeas |
| 13:39.35 | znf | areas |
| 13:39.42 | znf | can you get the item's name in game if you only know it's ID? |
| 13:39.52 | asmodai | znf: Stoopid(tm). |
| 13:39.59 | quiescens | znf: probably |
| 13:40.29 | asmodai | znf: yea |
| 13:40.32 | asmodai | znf: GetItemInfo() |
| 13:40.37 | asmodai | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo |
| 13:41.03 | znf | mkay, was looking at it |
| 13:41.15 | asmodai | GetItemInfo(id) |
| 13:50.42 | sb | znf: PT <> windsong difference is ~100 dps |
| 13:50.47 | sb | no need to replace |
| 13:51.13 | znf | sb, yes you do |
| 13:51.17 | sb | ??? |
| 13:51.21 | znf | Windsong doesn't fuckin' proc |
| 13:51.38 | sb | thats what simc also says |
| 13:51.56 | znf | well, simc can't reliably know when the damn weapon procs |
| 13:52.00 | Repo | bank-items: 03xinhuan * r180 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 13:52.00 | Repo | Add Void Storage support, thanks to cybermind. This replaces the space that used to be the keyring. |
| 13:52.27 | znf | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-hufkerthfv69ujqt/details/1/?s=5375&e=5731 -> buffs gained -> no windsong |
| 13:52.29 | quiescens | what about the poor keyring? |
| 13:52.31 | sb | (0.9 procs * 3) in 360-540s |
| 13:52.41 | sb | its like 3 * 3 for mages |
| 13:53.00 | sb | so yes, it does know about shitty proc rates :p |
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| 14:12.06 | sb | znf: 7751 haste, cap reached \o/ |
| 14:12.14 | znf | die :( |
| 14:12.22 | sb | tailoring chest is awesome |
| 14:13.19 | asmodai | nevcairiel: lamest job ad ever: looking for programmer with passion for programming |
| 14:13.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:13.33 | asmodai | I mean, wtf |
| 14:13.51 | wink | looking for porn actor with passion for acting |
| 14:13.56 | asmodai | heh |
| 14:15.06 | asmodai | Also a good one: ad looking for a programmer, but not specifying where the fuck you will be working (location) |
| 14:18.31 | wink | is there anything special to login with wowhead/zam to WOWI? |
| 14:19.21 | Brybry | I assume "passion for programming" means "no life and wants to live at work and work extra hours for no overtime" |
| 14:19.36 | wink | ah, email. SSO go diaf |
| 14:27.26 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:32.08 | quiescens | moo |
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| 14:34.07 | Repo | bank-items: 03xinhuan * r181 BankItems.lua: |
| 14:34.08 | Repo | Fix the bug where a 4-slot or smaller sized bag doesn't display the bottom background texture. |
| 14:35.33 | quiescens | are there bags with less than 4 slots? |
| 14:36.10 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/item=37606 |
| 14:39.27 | quiescens | "yes" also works |
| 14:39.48 | nevcairiel | then you ask "which?" |
| 14:39.54 | quiescens | gives nev a cookie |
| 14:44.31 | sb | gives nev a quiescens |
| 14:44.38 | nevcairiel | noo,i dont wanna |
| 14:45.18 | sb | Gnarfoz: lucker :/ |
| 14:45.26 | Gnarfoz | it's just tank flasks, but cool anyway |
| 14:48.06 | sb | meh, how to change the language of the mobile armory app? |
| 14:51.00 | Stanzilla | sb Gnarfoz nevcairiel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vbrMXQvHeQ&feature=youtu.be |
| 14:51.03 | Stanzilla | I just facepalmed so hard |
| 14:51.18 | sb | alter, keine videos, ich muss waehlen gehen erstmal.. |
| 14:51.30 | sb | WTF |
| 14:51.42 | Stanzilla | gibts nen viereck für "alle scheisse"? |
| 14:51.52 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:53.18 | asmodai | Brybry: heh, could be |
| 14:53.33 | asmodai | Brybry: I avoid vacancies with "challenging environment" nowadays |
| 14:54.02 | asmodai | Which tends to translate to "we have no fucking clue how to manage our environment" |
| 14:56.25 | znf | fuck that, I don't want "challenging environment" I want to slack & get paid |
| 14:56.28 | znf | !! |
| 14:59.47 | Repo | bank-items: 03xinhuan * r182 BankItems.lua: Fix reversed tooltip problem with last commit. |
| 15:03.17 | asmodai | znf: lol |
| 15:03.42 | Repo | bank-items: 03xinhuan 04v50002 * r183 : Tag release v50002. |
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| 15:15.04 | znf | Kemayo, does the cache contain info about objects? |
| 15:15.11 | znf | can I add objects to silver dragon? |
| 15:15.43 | wink | eh.. |
| 15:16.02 | wink | select(2, UnitClass("player")) gives me "DEATHKNIGHT 6" |
| 15:16.10 | wink | but 3 works again |
| 15:17.17 | durcyn | wrap it in parentheses if you don't want the other returns |
| 15:18.21 | wink | durcyn: wrap what exactly? |
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| 15:19.14 | durcyn | the select |
| 15:19.48 | durcyn | (select(2, UnitClass("player"))) |
| 15:19.54 | wink | wtf. thanks. I've never stumbled upon that "feature" |
| 15:20.43 | Repo | decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.7.2.1-9-g58991d0 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 15:20.44 | Repo | 58991d0: Preparations for 2.7.2.2 release |
| 15:20.44 | Repo | 021a0af: Generate report even when BugSack is detected (Decursive's debug reports include useful details) |
| 15:20.44 | Repo | 3ae7fe4: - Removed commented lib in embeds.xml that would break parsing when using no-lib-strip - Cleanup |
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| 15:30.25 | Shirik | You know what |
| 15:30.33 | Shirik | I am making a new pact |
| 15:30.44 | Gnarfoz | znf: nope, it doesn't |
| 15:30.48 | Shirik | I will vow to kill anyone that abuses select() before I die |
| 15:31.05 | asmodai | switches to kqueue() |
| 15:31.10 | Gnarfoz | [04:12:58] <Kem___ayo> And yeah, there's no way (that I know of) to cache-scan world objects. |
| 15:31.35 | Shirik | wink: The correct answer is to not use select and to declare a local variable |
| 15:31.47 | asmodai | Make sure to call it _ |
| 15:32.10 | wink | fine, I'll do it! |
| 15:33.22 | Shirik | aside from the fact that locals are free and select is surprisingly expensive, you're likely just making hard-to-read code by doing that, which should always be avoided |
| 15:33.35 | Shirik | I never understood the open source community's need to pack as much as possible into a single line |
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| 15:33.44 | wink | I'm not making code, I'm fixing things up |
| 15:33.46 | Shirik | and it's not just WoW, it is literally every open source project in existence |
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| 15:34.00 | wink | ^but I have one condition. why wouldn't this work for bogus values of name: local start,duration,enabled = GetSpellCooldown)name) if start ~= nil then ... |
| 15:34.37 | asmodai | Shirik: Not every project |
| 15:34.48 | Shirik | probably because the code for GetSpellCooldown throws an error when it doesn't understand name |
| 15:35.01 | asmodai | Because I would have fixed that shit in the open source projects I was/am involved in :) |
| 15:36.13 | Shirik | Sometimes I feel like I'm spoiled in the aviation industry |
| 15:36.22 | Shirik | we intentionally write code a very specific way so it's easy to read and test |
| 15:36.25 | asmodai | Shirik: *nod* |
| 15:36.33 | asmodai | Shirik: I'm aware with some of those standards. |
| 15:36.41 | znf | lol |
| 15:36.41 | znf | wtf |
| 15:36.42 | asmodai | Shirik: Got my hands on some ESA specs, interesting reads. |
| 15:36.56 | asmodai | s/aware with/aware of/ |
| 15:36.58 | znf | someone posted Great Feasts for 120-200g/ea |
| 15:37.03 | znf | *buys and relists at 2000g/ea* |
| 15:37.16 | Shirik | sounds like something I'd do |
| 15:37.23 | wink | Shirik: I suppose you wouldn't just put people with <40h of lua experience on a lua project :) |
| 15:37.36 | wink | because that kind of sums up my expertise |
| 15:37.37 | Shirik | wink: To be fair, it's not just you |
| 15:37.57 | Shirik | There are a LOT of developers out there that would do what you did |
| 15:38.01 | Shirik | which is why I will tackle them one by one |
| 15:38.03 | Shirik | I can now check one off |
| 15:38.09 | Gnarfoz | [10:56:52] <Stanzilla> such a joke in 10 man and so hard in 24 (also, sb) <-- easy? oO we found him rather tightly tuned, going to have to rearrange the raid, might not even kill it this reset :( |
| 15:38.17 | znf | only 50 turnips are like 500g... |
| 15:38.20 | znf | wtf are people thinking |
| 15:38.38 | End_ | 500g each or a stack? |
| 15:38.54 | Shirik | 50 turnips |
| 15:38.59 | znf | 500g for half a stack |
| 15:39.02 | End_ | that sounds cheap |
| 15:39.12 | wink | so why the hell does UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED fire for LOGINEFFECT and how do I differentiate player-cast spells? o_O |
| 15:39.18 | znf | yeah, so makes you wonder how a single feast can cost 120g :D |
| 15:39.23 | End_ | leveling |
| 15:39.35 | End_ | all my feasts went into the guild bank though |
| 15:40.07 | Shirik | are you sure it's your spellcast wink? |
| 15:40.10 | Shirik | It could be someone you're near |
| 15:40.30 | wink | it's on every login |
| 15:40.39 | wink | I'm already relogging for an hour |
| 15:40.50 | wink | also "Launch Quest" |
| 15:40.55 | wink | or the argent rep tabard |
| 15:41.30 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: german gangnam style is wtf. :D |
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| 15:48.18 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vCFKuXrQo <-mad Shirik ? |
| 15:49.01 | Shirik | not really |
| 15:49.29 | Fisker | so mad |
| 15:49.38 | Shirik | I don't play anymore |
| 15:49.41 | Shirik | at least not right now |
| 15:49.46 | wink | is ~= nil the correct check for nil= |
| 15:50.50 | Repo | decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.7.2.1-10-g05d2f2b Dcr_utils.lua: [+1 commit] use debugprofilestop() instead of GetTime() when in debug mode |
| 15:50.55 | wink | oh dammit, SO, you failed me! |
| 15:51.21 | wink | Shirik: so, I've removed all select() now ;) thanks :P |
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| 15:52.31 | Gnarfoz | sb, znf, Stanzilla: what should our casters use instead of windsong? power torrent? elemental thingy? |
| 15:52.37 | Stanzilla | PT |
| 15:52.49 | Gnarfoz | [16:50:57] <sb> alter, keine videos, ich muss waehlen gehen erstmal.. <-- was gabs zu wählen? :o |
| 15:53.01 | Shirik | wink: To be fair, select is occasionally appropriate, but 99% of the time it's only appropriate when the first parameter is variable |
| 15:53.46 | nevcairiel | its only really useful if you loop over parameters, imho |
| 15:54.17 | wink | well I have to agree it looked nicer |
| 15:54.26 | Shirik | the biggest issue with select() in my mind is just how it works |
| 15:54.37 | nevcairiel | or when the meaning/number of the later parameters differs on the value of the first |
| 15:54.40 | nevcairiel | like in the combatlog |
| 15:55.14 | wink | https://github.com/winks/SliceDice/commit/03f58345d480baff16e34613af03d78980eb2f47#L0R26 |
| 15:55.19 | quiescens | select() is convoluted imo o.o |
| 15:55.22 | Shirik | it copies everything on the stack, then manipulates the stack and returns effectively another copy, and then if you wrap it in parens, you have to chop a bunch of stuff off the stack, when you could have just done all that for free. Granted this happens so fast that it doesn't really matter, but it's the principle |
| 15:55.59 | Shirik | oh and there's the function call too |
| 15:56.07 | quiescens | hence convoluted |
| 15:56.11 | Shirik | If they would just implement my patch :( |
| 15:56.14 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 15:56.29 | quiescens | pats Shirik |
| 15:59.49 | sb | Gnarfoz, Stanzilla, nevcairiel http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/forum/topic/5586969559 |
| 15:59.56 | znf | sb, Stanzilla: something's wrong with my wings :( |
| 15:59.58 | znf | they're white |
| 16:00.08 | sb | stop using haxx |
| 16:00.22 | Shirik | I used google translate |
| 16:00.28 | Shirik | and all the text disappeared |
| 16:00.34 | Shirik | what is this |
| 16:01.37 | znf | Why all die in Orgrimmar? |
| 16:01.37 | znf | Hacker attack? |
| 16:01.37 | znf | Predicted "server dying"?? |
| 16:02.03 | znf | wtf happened there? :D |
| 16:03.18 | pompy | what znf? |
| 16:03.37 | znf | http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3036/47arab7a_jpg.htm |
| 16:03.50 | asmodai | lol |
| 16:04.00 | asmodai | new incarnation of the blood virus thinghy! |
| 16:04.55 | Stanzilla | znf: same |
| 16:04.57 | Stanzilla | ELEGON DOWN BTW |
| 16:04.58 | sb | znf: lvl 1 char killing everything |
| 16:05.15 | znf | how? |
| 16:05.21 | sb | hotfixed already |
| 16:05.24 | sb | DONT ASK!!! |
| 16:05.24 | sb | :p |
| 16:05.50 | znf | :( |
| 16:05.53 | znf | goes to ownedcore |
| 16:05.58 | sb | :( |
| 16:06.19 | Stanzilla | znf: got mainhand |
| 16:06.21 | Stanzilla | \o/ |
| 16:06.25 | sb | wand? |
| 16:06.26 | sb | fu :( |
| 16:06.28 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 16:06.30 | znf | ow, I hate you |
| 16:06.32 | znf | WE ALL HATE YOU NOW |
| 16:06.36 | znf | please, die in a fire |
| 16:07.29 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6acyobn0tj8penqy/ |
| 16:07.32 | Stanzilla | rank 15 motherfucker |
| 16:07.51 | sb | 123k? how? :( |
| 16:07.56 | Stanzilla | good play |
| 16:08.05 | sb | yea, sure... how? :P |
| 16:08.20 | Stanzilla | the fight has a dmg increase |
| 16:08.22 | Stanzilla | normal dps there |
| 16:08.38 | sb | how is 90% vt good play??? |
| 16:08.43 | sb | so dont be stupid |
| 16:08.58 | znf | sb, lots of adds... |
| 16:09.01 | sb | i know about the damage increase |
| 16:09.06 | pompy | The time limit for Warsong Gulch has been reduced from 25 to 20 minutes. |
| 16:09.15 | znf | pompy, old |
| 16:09.20 | Stanzilla | I had to dispell biatch |
| 16:12.06 | pompy | yup |
| 16:13.37 | sb | Stanzilla: what dispelL? |
| 16:13.57 | Stanzilla | sb: the dmg increase debuff |
| 16:15.27 | sb | Stanzilla: huh? |
| 16:15.59 | Stanzilla | Closed Circuit |
| 16:16.00 | sb | there is only -healing |
| 16:16.20 | Stanzilla | yeah that |
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| 16:20.14 | Archarodim | hmmm the packager has a little problem: Unable to create zip for Local GitRepository: wow/decursive/mainline: ValueError('filedescriptor out of range in select()',) |
| 16:23.58 | znf | blame Torhal |
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| 16:27.09 | sb | Stanzilla: so its easy? |
| 16:27.29 | Stanzilla | sb: with enough dps, sure |
| 16:27.33 | sb | :( |
| 16:27.34 | Stanzilla | we killed it in 8:44 |
| 16:27.47 | Stanzilla | our thursday tries were 13% wipes at 10:33 |
| 16:27.53 | Stanzilla | darkmoon powerz! |
| 16:28.00 | asmodai | So Nihilum is doing Elegon |
| 16:28.13 | sb | Stanzilla: only 3 cards *sigh* |
| 16:28.39 | Stanzilla | we have 18 or so |
| 16:29.43 | asmodai | It's a pity that when you don't care about raiding you do actually miss parts of the story lines within the game |
| 16:30.47 | Repo | arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.4.1-50-g83538b1 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 16:30.47 | Repo | 83538b1: Added new Cooking recipe: Four Senses Brew |
| 16:30.48 | Repo | 73b32f0: Added a new custom string |
| 16:31.27 | asmodai | Is that a priest ability, that bouncing sparkly thingy? Looks awesome that shader |
| 16:31.38 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 16:31.40 | Stanzilla | cascade |
| 16:31.45 | asmodai | beautiful visuals |
| 16:32.12 | asmodai | WoW in MoP really lifted parts of the gfx to a higher level for sure. |
| 16:33.11 | znf | asmodai, LFR |
| 16:33.20 | asmodai | znf: what about it? |
| 16:33.25 | znf | asmodai, raiding |
| 16:33.40 | asmodai | Yeah, well, not interested tbh :) |
| 16:33.47 | asmodai | raiding is way too frigging stressful |
| 16:33.51 | asmodai | even with guilds |
| 16:33.54 | znf | in LFR...?! |
| 16:33.57 | znf | are you kidding me? |
| 16:34.57 | znf | queue up, wait, auto-attack boss, get loot |
| 16:35.04 | asmodai | haha |
| 16:35.24 | asmodai | I'll check on LFR again |
| 16:35.44 | sb | i like how you need 463 ilvl :D |
| 16:35.51 | asmodai | lol, "don't stand in blue shit", tricksy Blizzard, they changed colours of the pools! |
| 16:36.32 | asmodai | I love those bounces of Cascade! |
| 16:36.41 | Archarodim | (only GIT repositories seem to be affected by this packager file descriptor issue) |
| 16:38.38 | znf | Stanzilla, wait |
| 16:38.40 | znf | that much damage |
| 16:38.46 | znf | and you're so low on the meters? |
| 16:38.54 | sb | :D |
| 16:39.09 | asmodai | Elegon too stronk for Nihilum |
| 16:39.37 | Stanzilla | znf: wot? |
| 16:39.45 | Stanzilla | I'm 2 |
| 16:40.45 | znf | Ah |
| 16:40.48 | znf | I had all tries :D |
| 16:40.49 | znf | nvm |
| 16:40.55 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6acyobn0tj8penqy/sum/damageDone/?s=3537&e=4061 |
| 16:43.21 | Gnarfoz | what should Windsong's proc rate be (for ret paladin, that is)? |
| 16:44.01 | Stanzilla | it's broken |
| 16:44.53 | Gnarfoz | for casters, yes |
| 16:45.00 | Gnarfoz | seems to work for mages, but not shadow and warlock |
| 16:45.19 | Gnarfoz | is at ~40% for our rogue, and at 10, 11, 18% for me, ~15, 16, 20% for our other ret |
| 16:45.39 | Gnarfoz | uptime, that is, not proc% (somewhat related, of course) |
| 16:51.58 | asmodai | and that was Elegon |
| 16:57.43 | asmodai | http://imgur.com/a/diGD5#29 :| |
| 17:00.41 | wink | so I have this abandoned project on wowace that I just wanted to update. switched repo to github and... any clues how I can release now? |
| 17:00.58 | asmodai | Sacrifice a goat and call on Ackis |
| 17:01.13 | znf | yeah, the proc rate is ridiculous for melees |
| 17:08.34 | asmodai | sylvanaar: heh, nice nick ;) |
| 17:08.56 | sylvanaar | heh, kvirc does it on a netsplit i think |
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| 17:10.45 | asmodai | :) |
| 17:11.34 | wink | so I have this pythonscript that should post the zip file, but 405 method not allowed |
| 17:11.46 | wink | are there any docs that don't 404? |
| 17:14.02 | Stanzilla | oh man that final boss is funny |
| 17:14.22 | asmodai | btw, any idea/information on what that final island in Pandaria will be used for? |
| 17:14.36 | durcyn | guild housing, obviously |
| 17:14.40 | asmodai | lol |
| 17:14.45 | durcyn | a troll raid, obviously |
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| 17:14.59 | Megalon | a naga raid, oviously |
| 17:15.04 | asmodai | Haha |
| 17:15.16 | asmodai | Trolls and Naga have been rather a staple, haven't they |
| 17:15.28 | Megalon | staples asmodai to the floor |
| 17:15.39 | asmodai | eep! |
| 17:15.44 | asmodai | bleeds |
| 17:18.42 | asmodai | Mmm, those reputation change suggestions would rock for people like me with a shitton of alts XD |
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| 17:26.35 | Gnarfoz | wink: no idea, but I think you could push to a wowace git repo from github, somehow |
| 17:26.40 | Gnarfoz | multiple remotes and all that jazz |
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| 17:26.48 | Gnarfoz | not sure who uses that kind of setup and could help you, though |
| 17:27.01 | Gnarfoz | torhal gets blamed for most problems around here, maybe he knows. ;) |
| 17:27.21 | wink | that doesn't sound too enticing |
| 17:27.43 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: any idea why I get double gmotd's on login? one with prat timestamp, one without? |
| 17:29.51 | sylvanaar | um, no...unless they changed how gmotd works |
| 17:30.40 | sylvanaar | i havent seen an issue myself |
| 17:31.07 | sylvanaar | maybe prat+another addon. |
| 17:31.21 | sylvanaar | not unheard of |
| 17:31.52 | sylvanaar | I have this new PC sitting here, and I have no motivation to finish building it |
| 17:32.24 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 17:32.45 | sylvanaar | I have to run all the wires now - I hate that part |
| 17:32.45 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: had this for years, though, so probably some other addon... any clue what I should be looking for? :o |
| 17:33.44 | sylvanaar | um well, any addon that loads earlier than prat or hooks higher |
| 17:34.03 | Gnarfoz | hooks what? :) |
| 17:34.06 | Gnarfoz | !api MOTD |
| 17:34.06 | lua_bot | Found 6 possible results for 'MOTD': GuildSetMOTD, CanEditMOTD, GUILD_MOTD, GetGuildRosterMOTD, KBSystem_GetMOTD, KNOWLEDGE_BASE_SYSTEM_MOTD_UPDATED |
| 17:34.20 | Gnarfoz | guess handlers for GUILD_MOTD is the right place to look at? |
| 17:34.21 | sylvanaar | no ChatFrame OnEvent |
| 17:34.35 | sylvanaar | that would be hooking higher |
| 17:37.59 | Stanzilla | http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/10/07/go-pro-and-your-eyes-will-thank-you/ |
| 17:38.12 | Stanzilla | so good |
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| 17:43.07 | wink | meh |
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| 17:47.58 | asmodai | Stanzilla: it's a nice font |
| 17:48.10 | asmodai | Stanzilla: problem is that it uses faux italics, it merely slants the font |
| 17:48.28 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: hm. I'll try and see, not very well versed in this particular part of the UI |
| 17:50.57 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: remind me, otf is > ttf? |
| 17:51.05 | Gnarfoz | even though the ttfs are bigger |
| 17:51.22 | asmodai | otf is the newer file format, in general you want otf ya |
| 17:51.37 | asmodai | but they share a lot of tech |
| 17:51.57 | Repo | atlasloot-enhanced: 03hegarol * r3862 / (2 files in 2 directories): small stuff |
| 17:52.15 | Stanzilla | I'm not sure either |
| 17:55.22 | Gnarfoz | there's no "add fonts" anymore in windows? |
| 17:55.25 | Gnarfoz | just drag them in? |
| 17:55.28 | asmodai | right click the fonts |
| 17:55.30 | asmodai | install |
| 17:55.50 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 17:56.26 | Gnarfoz | I've been using Consolas for a long time now, and have always been satisfied, but I'm going to try this out ;) |
| 17:57.25 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i kinda prefer courier new in my editor |
| 17:57.55 | asmodai | Problem with courier new is that the typeface has stems that are too thin |
| 17:58.15 | wink | I can't work with courier |
| 17:58.22 | asmodai | Not to mention, too easy to confuse certain letters and numbers since they look close to identical |
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| 17:59.02 | Stanzilla | what size do you guys use? |
| 17:59.26 | Stanzilla | I'm not sure if I want 9 or 10 |
| 17:59.31 | asmodai | 12-14, depending on the application |
| 17:59.43 | nevcairiel | wah, thats huge |
| 18:00.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I'm older than you, right? :) |
| 18:00.22 | asmodai | eyesight and all that :P |
| 18:00.39 | asmodai | And they wiped on Jan-xi |
| 18:02.33 | asmodai | I remember the times when I had font size 6 in my terms on FreeBSD, haha. |
| 18:02.42 | Yoshimo | Is there a way to connect digsite blob ids with their translated name? |
| 18:03.20 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: 11, because I read on some MS blog that Consolas was designed for that :o (And it does look nice) |
| 18:04.08 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 18:06.17 | Dark_Elf | blizzard must have the interns working today, the rolling restarts has taken more than 15 lol |
| 18:06.50 | Ressy | They posted. |
| 18:06.52 | asmodai | Gnarfoz / Stanzilla : they have hinting and such to make them work well on larger sizes as well |
| 18:08.01 | asmodai | that's a nice 180 degree arc AoE |
| 18:17.38 | MysticalOS | hmm, is packager hung up again? |
| 18:18.33 | Stanzilla | man instances are so fucked up again |
| 18:18.39 | Stanzilla | people always end up in different instances |
| 18:18.58 | MysticalOS | yeah |
| 18:19.06 | MysticalOS | we had to use a lot of warlock stones in raid |
| 18:19.09 | MysticalOS | to summon people to us |
| 18:20.14 | znf | ... |
| 18:20.27 | znf | "You have requested to trade with X - X is busy" |
| 18:20.34 | znf | "X has requested to trade. You have refused." |
| 18:21.00 | znf | fun bugs are fun |
| 18:21.10 | asmodai | Ah |
| 18:21.15 | asmodai | I had that as well yesterday |
| 18:21.22 | asmodai | thought I was doing stuff wrong (again) |
| 18:30.49 | znf | yay, we can't click the crystals again |
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| 18:33.30 | asmodai | You would only break them anyway |
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| 18:36.38 | znf | I'm alraedy annoyed |
| 18:36.45 | znf | that Feng fight bugs too often |
| 18:40.14 | Gnarfoz | how? |
| 18:40.45 | Chosi | feng is ?/6? |
| 18:40.51 | Chosi | i don't even know the names : |
| 18:40.52 | Chosi | :> |
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| 18:45.57 | MysticalOS | feng is second boss |
| 18:46.03 | MysticalOS | i didn't notice any bugs with feng |
| 18:46.32 | Gnarfoz | ASDF ASFASOIFj |
| 18:46.37 | Gnarfoz | /exit instead of /logout |
| 18:46.39 | MysticalOS | just some healers that did it on beta who were caught off guard by how much they raised his damage from testing |
| 18:46.47 | nevcairiel | the only problem we had was that stealing the stun attack wasnt really working all the time, but it might have been fail of a tank |
| 18:46.51 | MysticalOS | oh feng does have one bug |
| 18:46.59 | MysticalOS | tanks might get a cogwheel bug and not able to grab crystals |
| 18:47.25 | Gnarfoz | StrataFix |
| 18:47.34 | Gnarfoz | does it help against such things? |
| 18:47.43 | Gnarfoz | just bought a hozen peace pipe from the AH for 20k |
| 18:47.44 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:47.45 | MysticalOS | i personally haven't had that probelm, but i heard of it |
| 18:47.55 | MysticalOS | i thought that was bop? |
| 18:47.56 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: didnt they change them to 100 rep now? |
| 18:48.02 | Gnarfoz | they changed them twice |
| 18:48.04 | Gnarfoz | once down to 100 |
| 18:48.10 | MysticalOS | they reverted 100 rep |
| 18:48.12 | Gnarfoz | then they reconsidered and put it back to 1000 |
| 18:48.13 | MysticalOS | put a 7 day cd on it |
| 18:48.17 | Gnarfoz | but 7d cd |
| 18:48.24 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 18:48.37 | MysticalOS | the damage is done |
| 18:48.41 | Gnarfoz | hehe yeah |
| 18:48.43 | MysticalOS | anyone that used a bunch of em early has a big lead |
| 18:48.46 | Gnarfoz | people were camping Scritch |
| 18:48.58 | MysticalOS | i have no shot in realm first rep guy |
| 18:49.03 | Gnarfoz | also, farming the Qulien Statues down in Guo-Lai Halls |
| 18:49.06 | Gnarfoz | instant respawn |
| 18:49.09 | MysticalOS | even though i was in realm first 90s group and have day 1 dailies |
| 18:49.18 | Gnarfoz | for keys |
| 18:49.27 | MysticalOS | i have keys i can't find a damn cache |
| 18:49.35 | Gnarfoz | die next to the doors down there |
| 18:49.37 | Gnarfoz | rez other side |
| 18:49.40 | Gnarfoz | always caches there |
| 18:49.43 | Gnarfoz | well "always" |
| 18:49.44 | MysticalOS | always people there |
| 18:49.48 | Gnarfoz | until someone else does it |
| 18:49.49 | Gnarfoz | hehe yeah |
| 18:50.00 | Gnarfoz | probably doesn't work on a realm full of people who know shit like this |
| 18:50.07 | Gnarfoz | wish I had time to farm keys |
| 18:50.11 | MysticalOS | my realm has people notorious for exploits |
| 18:50.25 | Gnarfoz | not the best place for realm first $anything |
| 18:50.26 | MysticalOS | one of the guilds on my server got loot off galleon like a dozen times |
| 18:50.31 | Gnarfoz | haha whut |
| 18:50.41 | nevcairiel | they should be more active slapping such people into place |
| 18:50.59 | Gnarfoz | also, what was that "hackers killing EVERYONE in org/sw" today? anyone know? perhaps on owendcore? |
| 18:51.01 | MysticalOS | the loot eligability was only saved per realm |
| 18:51.08 | MysticalOS | you could use CRZ to fight a diff galleon for more loot |
| 18:51.09 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: ah, that, yeah |
| 18:52.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, +1100 (guild bonus) to all factions of pandaria <3 |
| 18:52.55 | breser | I don't get realm firsts at the start of an expansion anymore... |
| 18:52.57 | breser | They're a crap shoot. |
| 18:52.59 | breser | Always. |
| 18:53.20 | MysticalOS | i enjoyed the leveling one. we did a lot of careful planning and blew away the competitors no contest |
| 18:53.42 | MysticalOS | we were 87 before anyone else even hit 86 |
| 18:53.45 | Gnarfoz | we fucked up and didn't plan on our high pop realm dying at 23:55 |
| 18:54.06 | MysticalOS | we lost our huge lead though in dread wastes though. and they caught up within 20 min |
| 18:54.11 | MysticalOS | stupid teeth |
| 18:54.13 | Gnarfoz | should've fucked handing in saved up daily quests and instead sign up for dungeons immediately |
| 18:54.38 | znf | MysticalOS, we get that often |
| 18:54.40 | MysticalOS | dread wastes was full of quests that shared no group credit. |
| 18:54.42 | nevcairiel | instance servers went down on many realms as well |
| 18:54.45 | MysticalOS | they are all fixed now |
| 18:54.48 | MysticalOS | but day 1 |
| 18:54.49 | MysticalOS | man |
| 18:54.57 | MysticalOS | loot x objects |
| 18:54.59 | MysticalOS | yeah, times 5 |
| 18:55.05 | MysticalOS | and not enough mobs for 5 people |
| 18:56.48 | znf | every pull, someone can't click boss or food buff... |
| 18:56.53 | znf | no cogwheel |
| 18:57.09 | Stanzilla | we need to use 300 buff food |
| 18:57.10 | Stanzilla | :< |
| 18:57.28 | Kemayo | znf: Alas, the cache tells us nothing about objects. |
| 18:57.55 | Gnarfoz | need? well. didn't you link the blog post yesterday :D |
| 18:58.10 | Stanzilla | which one? |
| 18:58.17 | Gnarfoz | about pushing cooking to max first |
| 18:58.26 | Stanzilla | no that wasn't me |
| 18:58.33 | Gnarfoz | "first" - just trying to say, are all other options already maxed out |
| 18:59.23 | Stanzilla | you can use buff food other people made |
| 18:59.28 | Stanzilla | so you don't need the skill |
| 19:00.35 | MysticalOS | or just find a shadow priest to farm cranes for you. even post nerf, you earn about 100 tokens per hour |
| 19:01.01 | Stanzilla | 100 tokens per hour is a bit high :D |
| 19:01.04 | MysticalOS | instant respawns and utter annihilation of cranes with halo and mutli dots |
| 19:01.07 | Stanzilla | that would be 100*20 |
| 19:01.18 | MysticalOS | have you seen a priest up there? |
| 19:01.23 | Stanzilla | I AM A PRIEST |
| 19:01.29 | MysticalOS | i cannot compete, my poor warrior fishes for tokens |
| 19:01.39 | Stanzilla | which place re you talking about btw? |
| 19:01.48 | MysticalOS | valley, the instant respawn cranes |
| 19:01.49 | Stanzilla | the plateau next to the hill where you do cooking dailies? |
| 19:01.56 | MysticalOS | yeah |
| 19:02.14 | Stanzilla | we farm turtles |
| 19:02.35 | MysticalOS | they don't respawn as fast. which is key. point is you need to have like a dozen dying per second |
| 19:03.32 | Stanzilla | that place scales |
| 19:03.35 | Stanzilla | the more people the more turtles |
| 19:03.38 | znf | MysticalOS, cranes? o.o |
| 19:04.46 | znf | I just ask people to send whatever meat |
| 19:04.51 | znf | they get while questing |
| 19:05.01 | MysticalOS | and they are foolish enough to do that? |
| 19:05.04 | MysticalOS | meat sells so high |
| 19:05.27 | znf | not on our realm |
| 19:05.41 | End_ | yeah meat is cheap on my realm |
| 19:05.53 | znf | I bought 10x25m feast for 120g each earlier :P |
| 19:06.37 | znf | MysticalOS, link to map location / coords something :P |
| 19:07.09 | asmodai | Qin-xi & Jan-xi too stronk XD |
| 19:07.31 | znf | meh, my PC can't handle the aoe healing :( |
| 19:07.42 | MysticalOS | too strong? |
| 19:08.12 | MysticalOS | we haven't pulled them yet. still trying to teach people spark assignments |
| 19:10.22 | Stanzilla | the fight is super easy |
| 19:10.28 | Stanzilla | our melees are just big failtards |
| 19:10.53 | Talryn | Is Mogu'shan LFR split into two parts or is it just one? |
| 19:11.05 | znf | Talryn, 2 |
| 19:11.16 | Talryn | So how many bosses in the first part? |
| 19:11.44 | znf | 3 |
| 19:11.48 | Talryn | Ok, thanks |
| 19:11.56 | Gnarfoz | I hope we get Elegon tomorrow, somehow |
| 19:11.59 | Gnarfoz | way too many melees |
| 19:12.19 | znf | we can't even get feng... |
| 19:13.09 | MysticalOS | looking at dps check (as usual) 10 man is a lower on elegon. although not to level of ultraxion. we'll get it tonight though. all our casters finally grabbed the OP DMF trinkets |
| 19:14.01 | MysticalOS | feng is about the tanks really, they mitigate so much of the damage |
| 19:14.05 | Gnarfoz | if 10 man is supposed to be low, then I wonder why 1 out of all guilds on our realm has killed it :C |
| 19:14.17 | Gnarfoz | (at least until yesterday, haven't looked today) |
| 19:14.29 | MysticalOS | i ddin't say the dps check was low |
| 19:14.29 | znf | we just fail on moving... |
| 19:14.30 | MysticalOS | i said it was lower |
| 19:14.33 | MysticalOS | :P |
| 19:14.35 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 19:14.52 | Gnarfoz | if it is lower relative to the group size, then 25 man would be ultra hard :C |
| 19:14.59 | MysticalOS | it is lol |
| 19:15.25 | Gnarfoz | more people are killing it on 25 than on 10! :O |
| 19:15.26 | MysticalOS | won't be with entire raid at 476 ilvl average or higher though, whcih is what raid is actually tuned at |
| 19:15.35 | MysticalOS | dps checks in heroic 463 gear are brutal |
| 19:15.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I realize that, but meh |
| 19:15.39 | MysticalOS | for both 10 and 25 |
| 19:15.41 | MysticalOS | but seemingly more so for 25 |
| 19:16.49 | MysticalOS | znf, what are you moving for on feng? the arcane phase? is it getting debuff out of group that's cast immediately after the aoe? |
| 19:17.11 | MysticalOS | the other two phases have little reason to move |
| 19:17.17 | Gnarfoz | fire? |
| 19:17.19 | MysticalOS | you null one epicenter and interrupt the other |
| 19:17.19 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:17.29 | MysticalOS | fire, long as you don't drop it on people, it really doesn't matter where you put it |
| 19:17.38 | MysticalOS | you should ge 3 draw flame max, you'll cancel 2 of them out completely |
| 19:17.40 | Gnarfoz | well, it moves around |
| 19:17.59 | Gnarfoz | yeah, we put heroism there to not have to deal with it for so long, I think |
| 19:18.00 | MysticalOS | not that much. drop it by wall, move back in |
| 19:18.03 | MysticalOS | it won't bother you again |
| 19:18.16 | Gnarfoz | more people actually died from the fire rushing into the boss than anything else |
| 19:18.25 | MysticalOS | rushing into boss? |
| 19:18.29 | Gnarfoz | draw flame? |
| 19:18.30 | MysticalOS | oh |
| 19:18.38 | Gnarfoz | shitty positioning |
| 19:18.40 | MysticalOS | we dropped all fire on same side of room |
| 19:18.40 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 19:18.47 | MysticalOS | and no one stood in that path |
| 19:18.52 | Gnarfoz | easily fixable by standing a bit away from the boss when he does draw flame |
| 19:18.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:19.15 | MysticalOS | i died to a crazy fluke one pull though which is strange |
| 19:19.32 | MysticalOS | i was tank doing null barrier, so of course i was standing in bosses hit box to block flame from reaching him |
| 19:19.38 | MysticalOS | but somehow i died to fire |
| 19:19.41 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 19:19.43 | MysticalOS | inside my own barrier |
| 19:19.46 | Gnarfoz | also, what to copy in fire phase? |
| 19:19.52 | Gnarfoz | the fire seems utterly pointless |
| 19:19.54 | Gnarfoz | does next to no damage |
| 19:19.58 | MysticalOS | tank debuff |
| 19:20.04 | Gnarfoz | and besides that? |
| 19:20.09 | Gnarfoz | the cd is short enough to steal two things |
| 19:20.10 | MysticalOS | thats it relaly |
| 19:20.16 | Gnarfoz | that's what we figured |
| 19:20.21 | znf | oh well |
| 19:20.26 | znf | so we fail @ phase2 on healing |
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| 19:20.49 | MysticalOS | phase 2 is key that the barrier is up for first and third draw flame, you'll only get 3 |
| 19:20.53 | Gnarfoz | time nullification barrier so that you can use it twice in barrier |
| 19:20.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:20.56 | MysticalOS | if you mess up, and it's not up for first, and you use on 2nd |
| 19:21.01 | Gnarfoz | *twice in p2 |
| 19:21.02 | MysticalOS | you get 2 draw flames, and that's very bad |
| 19:21.11 | znf | we use it twice |
| 19:21.13 | Gnarfoz | boss didn't even use up all stacks he got for us |
| 19:21.37 | znf | the one where he does it rapes us |
| 19:21.42 | znf | also |
| 19:21.43 | MysticalOS | it takes a long time to use em up. even though we get 3 draw flames and only 2 gives him stacks, he's just barely finishing using em when arcane phase starts |
| 19:21.51 | znf | in that phase my PC goes to 1 fps |
| 19:22.02 | MysticalOS | we had dps paladins (2 of em) use devo aura |
| 19:22.04 | Gnarfoz | still on your 486? |
| 19:22.05 | MysticalOS | and healers rotating cds |
| 19:22.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:23.04 | znf | can't afford new pc man :( |
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| 19:29.59 | znf | wtf is the deal with the stacks on him? |
| 19:30.04 | znf | we get 18-25 stacks on him |
| 19:31.21 | znf | looks at MysticalOS |
| 19:31.38 | MysticalOS | that's how it works |
| 19:31.47 | MysticalOS | we haven't been able to control the amount of stacks really |
| 19:31.52 | MysticalOS | we tried everything |
| 19:32.22 | znf | :-/ |
| 19:37.20 | Stanzilla | absorb more |
| 19:39.53 | znf | I have no idea wtf this shit PC is dropping to 0 fps |
| 19:47.42 | *** join/#wowace neon_ (~Hid_emeri@46-236-100-167.customer.t3.se) |
| 19:49.05 | neon_ | Does anyone know of an addon that replaces the world map arrow with a dot or some other kind of marker? (running wow in OpenGL mode (in linux) and there's a bug there that makes the world map arrow not show at all, but I'm sure there's a way to overlay some other kind of marker over the arrow to work around the problem) |
| 19:51.11 | znf | Stanzilla, fuck this shit |
| 19:51.13 | znf | my dps is so variable |
| 19:53.55 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 19:53.56 | Stanzilla | a bit |
| 19:56.55 | bluspacecow | world map arrow ? |
| 20:00.26 | znf | Stanzilla, sometimes I'm at 60-65k dps |
| 20:00.40 | znf | sometimes I'm at the bottom of the list :( |
| 20:00.53 | Stanzilla | that happens when you procs align with 3 orbs |
| 20:03.12 | znf | at pull I have 50k spell power :D |
| 20:03.15 | znf | with all procs & pot |
| 20:03.43 | Gnarfoz | znf: what are your pc's specs? |
| 20:03.49 | znf | Q6600 :( |
| 20:03.50 | Gnarfoz | and what are your wow settings, for that matter |
| 20:04.04 | Gnarfoz | also, how many addons that parse shit like CLEU and UNIT_AURA |
| 20:04.05 | znf | it's only a problem with combat log parsing |
| 20:04.05 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:04.28 | Gnarfoz | yeah, guess q6600's single core performance is not enough to keep up with your combination of addons |
| 20:04.46 | Gnarfoz | I blame wow's sad (read: nonexistant) multi-thread support |
| 20:04.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:04.58 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (Megalon@d86-32-5-7.cust.tele2.at) |
| 20:05.01 | Gnarfoz | addon system tied directly into the graphics engine? fuck yeah |
| 20:05.20 | Ressy | Q6600 is an older, but decent CPU |
| 20:06.21 | Gnarfoz | what kind of random comment is that |
| 20:06.25 | Gnarfoz | utterly pointless ^^ |
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| 20:07.31 | Gnarfoz | it's the first-gen intel desktop quad-core with several kinds of drawbacks |
| 20:08.31 | Gnarfoz | anyway, like already stated above, you can only blame the cpu that much |
| 20:12.31 | znf | I know |
| 20:12.33 | znf | also, Skada |
| 20:12.52 | znf | AddonProfiler puts skada at "40/sec" (40 dunno what...) |
| 20:12.53 | durcyn | Kemayo: can we get an indicator on the popup when it's a received sync alet |
| 20:12.58 | znf | when it freezes |
| 20:13.26 | MysticalOS | it's in the output for the announce thing |
| 20:13.30 | MysticalOS | set it to "chat" |
| 20:13.35 | MysticalOS | it just prints source coords and all that in chat frame |
| 20:14.01 | durcyn | doesn't really help if i have sink disabled =P |
| 20:14.09 | durcyn | also a tomtom waypoint hook would be astounding |
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| 20:14.57 | MysticalOS | you could set click2target to not show for syncs and show for everything else |
| 20:15.24 | znf | Symbiosis is such a shit ability :D |
| 20:17.22 | Kemayo | durcyn: When I can log in again I'll think about it. |
| 20:18.34 | durcyn | excuses! |
| 20:19.26 | znf | !@#!@#!@#!( ASASA@ _|_ _|_ _|_ |
| 20:19.36 | znf | 3rd time in a row the tank can't click the crystal |
| 20:20.00 | Chosi | wtb elegon tactics |
| 20:20.01 | Chosi | :( |
| 20:20.25 | Gnarfoz | znf: I hope he has re-logged by now? |
| 20:20.32 | znf | yeah, didn't do shit |
| 20:20.38 | znf | it's a bug on that god damn platform |
| 20:20.38 | Gnarfoz | Chosi: max gear, get rid of all melees, basically? |
| 20:20.43 | znf | half the time I can't click the feasts |
| 20:21.04 | Gnarfoz | shit, I need to look at raid drops so I can decide what to spend VP on |
| 20:22.22 | Gnarfoz | znf: uhm, ms? it says so on the left... |
| 20:22.40 | znf | ms? |
| 20:22.43 | Gnarfoz | milliseconds? |
| 20:22.49 | Gnarfoz | the unit |
| 20:22.51 | Gnarfoz | for addonprofiler |
| 20:22.56 | durcyn | Chosi: we only killed it after kicking our monk tank out, if you're having issues with tank deaths |
| 20:23.16 | Gnarfoz | 40ms means Skada alone is spending more time on shit than 3 or so frames @ 60Hz |
| 20:23.30 | Gnarfoz | 60 HZ means 1 frame is 16.666... ms long |
| 20:23.43 | Gnarfoz | no wonder nothing gets done anymore? :D |
| 20:24.04 | Gnarfoz | I'd either disable it completely or try disabling some modules |
| 20:24.05 | Chosi | Gnarfoz: sounds nice. |
| 20:24.08 | Chosi | as a melee |
| 20:24.08 | Gnarfoz | it's not like you actually need it |
| 20:24.10 | Chosi | with 463 gear |
| 20:24.11 | Chosi | :> |
| 20:24.19 | Gnarfoz | Chosi: sounds like you're getting benched |
| 20:24.40 | Gnarfoz | unless you're somehow indispensable or nobody else can be found |
| 20:24.49 | Gnarfoz | I guess 1 or 2 melees can be accommodated |
| 20:24.51 | Gnarfoz | also, 2 healers |
| 20:25.01 | Gnarfoz | kill as many rounds of sparks as you can |
| 20:25.08 | Gnarfoz | figure that out and decide on a set number |
| 20:25.17 | Gnarfoz | and ignore the last set that you wouldn't be able to kill anyway |
| 20:25.20 | Gnarfoz | burn the boss instead |
| 20:25.24 | durcyn | and melee are really good on sparks, why kick them out? |
| 20:25.26 | Chosi | Gnarfoz we stopped after 3 rounds of sparks |
| 20:25.32 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: good? because they can't reach them? |
| 20:25.37 | Chosi | dunno why exactly |
| 20:25.38 | durcyn | 3's a bit low, you're going to have problems later with less than 8 total |
| 20:25.48 | durcyn | we did 5/4 |
| 20:25.51 | Gnarfoz | after 1 set, you're most certainly not in the middle again where the next set spawns :\ |
| 20:25.57 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: get better melee |
| 20:26.08 | durcyn | there's 3 seconds between the end of the cast and the next cast |
| 20:26.09 | Gnarfoz | meaning classes with +50% passive run speed? :D |
| 20:26.13 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 20:26.29 | Chosi | we're having real heal issues here |
| 20:26.30 | Gnarfoz | well, we failed miserably friday, only got in a few tries |
| 20:26.35 | Chosi | any way to avoid damage? |
| 20:26.41 | durcyn | reset stacks more often |
| 20:26.43 | Gnarfoz | now we know better what to do, so we'll see how it goes |
| 20:26.54 | Gnarfoz | (tomorrow, that is) |
| 20:26.58 | durcyn | at least before the add explosion |
| 20:27.02 | durcyn | every time |
| 20:27.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 20:27.14 | Gnarfoz | add explosion with stacks is bad mojo |
| 20:27.16 | Chosi | mhkay |
| 20:27.28 | Gnarfoz | not to mention paying attention that it never explodes inside |
| 20:27.38 | durcyn | yeah, it gets the buff too |
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| 20:29.12 | znf | Gnarfoz, I disabled the healing modules now |
| 20:29.12 | Repo | archy: 03Dridzt 07master * 1.8.32-1-gb4e6451 Archy.lua: [+1 commit] Find artifacts for crating before keystones on bag updates, possible fix for 'stops after crating 1 artifact' |
| 20:29.14 | znf | see how it does |
| 20:29.20 | asmodai | Watching Nihilum wipe so much is entertainment |
| 20:29.34 | asmodai | communication of tactics is hard |
| 20:29.37 | Gnarfoz | "nihilum" meaning "kungen and a handful of other people" |
| 20:29.45 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: Basically. |
| 20:29.53 | Gnarfoz | there's like nobody left from when they were "the shit" |
| 20:29.55 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 20:30.06 | Gnarfoz | why not disable it altogether if running it means you might get another 0 fps situation, znf |
| 20:30.15 | asmodai | Yeah, only one that seems to have some sense is that arthurk tank fella |
| 20:30.16 | Gnarfoz | you don't need it at all in raid |
| 20:30.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, I'm not running without a dps meter >_< |
| 20:30.35 | Gnarfoz | why not |
| 20:30.39 | Gnarfoz | fucking stupidity |
| 20:30.43 | asmodai | MAD DEEPS MAN |
| 20:30.46 | Gnarfoz | if you actually want to check after each fight |
| 20:30.50 | Gnarfoz | I hope you're not looking at it in fight |
| 20:30.53 | Gnarfoz | then get wol live report |
| 20:31.07 | Gnarfoz | it's going to be synced up before you even alt-tab out to check it |
| 20:31.08 | znf | WoL fucked up for some reasons |
| 20:31.14 | znf | I started the logger |
| 20:31.21 | znf | then it got stuck at "Waiting for first line" |
| 20:31.26 | Gnarfoz | wrong dir? |
| 20:31.33 | Gnarfoz | wrong permissions, something |
| 20:31.39 | Gnarfoz | no actual idea, just guessing here |
| 20:31.48 | znf | realized it after half the fight |
| 20:31.58 | Gnarfoz | anyway, having no dps meter > not fighting because 0 fps |
| 20:32.17 | Gnarfoz | it's like the old survival vs. moar dps adage: you do 0 dps when dead |
| 20:33.07 | Repo | archy: 03Dridzt 041.8.33 * 487de18 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.8.33 |
| 20:33.28 | Repo | libdispellable-1-0: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0-3-g0d8e470 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 20:33.28 | Repo | 0d8e470: Updated enrage list for MoP. |
| 20:33.28 | Repo | a58e3d9: TOC bump. |
| 20:33.29 | Repo | a84bdfa: Copyleft notice bump. |
| 20:33.34 | Repo | libdispellable-1-0: 03Adirelle 041.1 * 68e9bab /: [new tag] MoP release. |
| 20:41.36 | asmodai | so many corpses by now on that floor XD |
| 20:44.32 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jkU5drZc3k |
| 20:44.34 | bluspacecow | relevant |
| 20:46.28 | Repo | decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.7.2.1-11-g38ef630 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] AddonLoader will now load Decursive if the player is a monk. |
| 20:48.39 | asmodai | bluspacecow: heh |
| 20:48.52 | asmodai | And another wipe, more corpses on the floor. |
| 20:56.19 | znf | asmodai, tell me about it http://i.imgur.com/Nn9lx.jpg |
| 20:57.04 | Repo | archy: 03Dridzt 07master * 1.8.33-1-g9fa3307 Archy.lua: [+1 commit] Fix ticket #431: error on char without Archaeology. |
| 20:57.07 | nevcairiel | still hung up on feng? |
| 20:57.17 | znf | yes8 |
| 20:57.44 | Repo | decursive: 03Archarodim 042.7.2.2 * 363c548 /: [new tag] Tagging as 2.7.2.2 |
| 20:59.14 | Repo | archy: 03Dridzt 041.8.34 * 2cd4cf4 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.8.34 |
| 21:03.27 | znf | Gnarfoz, I figured out |
| 21:03.37 | znf | when I pop VE, my FPS die |
| 21:03.48 | znf | as soon as VE expires, I'm fine |
| 21:04.18 | Gnarfoz | :derp: |
| 21:04.26 | Gnarfoz | any special addons that track it/something it does? |
| 21:04.31 | Stanzilla | turn off healing scrolling text |
| 21:04.34 | Gnarfoz | or just from the massive amounts of little heals |
| 21:04.37 | znf | Stanzilla, it is |
| 21:04.44 | znf | turned off |
| 21:05.01 | Gnarfoz | I doubt the little bit of graphics drawing for the text is relevant... CLEU parsing is death |
| 21:14.17 | znf | a 7th healer seems to have fixed |
| 21:17.23 | asmodai | znf: and corpses littered the floor ;) |
| 21:19.16 | asmodai | I really need to start working on fixing up my UI, tightening it up |
| 21:20.11 | asmodai | znf: love that atomic bomb with fuck on it ;) |
| 21:22.00 | Gnarfoz | any good mage guides out there for MoP? |
| 21:22.07 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: in what sense? |
| 21:22.15 | Gnarfoz | general sense! :D |
| 21:22.27 | Gnarfoz | no idea, guy in guild says he's confused why "many people" say "frost is better" (than fire) |
| 21:22.32 | asmodai | http://www.noxxic.com/wow/pve/mage/arcane |
| 21:25.16 | Repo | mutt: 03tuill * r30 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:25.16 | Repo | Bump interface version and refresh libs for Mists of Pandaria |
| 21:26.21 | Repo | coolaid: 03durcyn 07master * 50001-09-2-g15e9e8d CoolAid.lua: [+1 commit] add toggle for brief bar text |
| 21:26.34 | Stanzilla | znf: can you give me your void shift macro again please |
| 21:26.56 | Repo | coolaid: 03durcyn 0450001-10 * ed0a22b /: [new tag] 50001-10 |
| 21:27.26 | Repo | reno: 03tuill * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:27.26 | Repo | Bump interface version and refresh libs for Mists of Pandaria |
| 21:27.46 | znf | #showtooltip |
| 21:27.49 | znf | /cast [@mouseover,help,nodead,exists,raid]Void Shift;[@target,help,nodead,exists,raid]Void Shift;[@targettarget,help,raid,exists,nodead]Void Shift;[@player]Renew |
| 21:27.55 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 21:28.36 | Repo | mutt: 03tuill 04v0.59 * r31 : Tagging as v0.59 |
| 21:29.06 | Repo | reno: 03tuill 04v0.15 * r14 : Tagging as v0.15 |
| 21:33.06 | Repo | grid2: 03michaelspain * r689 / (8 files in 4 directories): Grid2: Removed Cataclysm compatibility code. |
| 21:33.07 | Repo | RaidDebuffs: Fixing "Mogu'shan Vaults" instance name. |
| 21:35.02 | Primer | znf: In your experience, FDCL or MB? |
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| 21:36.42 | znf | Primer, FDCL clearly |
| 21:36.44 | znf | for shadow |
| 21:36.52 | znf | finally we illed it... |
| 21:36.55 | Primer | yes, for shadow |
| 21:37.10 | Primer | even though I'm now relegated to healing since one of our raiders didn't level to 90... |
| 21:43.01 | znf | halo and fdcl |
| 21:44.42 | znf | Stanzilla, at least I got an offhand! |
| 21:46.15 | Stanzilla | znf: I bought the inscrition one |
| 21:46.17 | Stanzilla | *p |
| 21:47.55 | znf | mastery... :P |
| 21:47.59 | znf | I want haste, ffs >_< |
| 21:50.37 | MysticalOS | kemayo, that criteria update you did is causing significant stutter spiders doing quests |
| 21:50.53 | MysticalOS | it's literally rescanning the entire glorious achievement every time i kill a mob |
| 21:50.58 | znf | o.o |
| 21:50.58 | MysticalOS | now imagine droping bombs on 200 mantid |
| 21:51.17 | MysticalOS | silver dragon is going "ZOMG UPDATE GLORIOUS STATUS 200 times" |
| 21:51.51 | znf | why does it need to do that anyway? |
| 21:51.53 | MysticalOS | spkes* |
| 21:51.58 | MysticalOS | spikes* |
| 21:52.06 | MysticalOS | so it can updaet mob tooltips of whether or not you need it for glorious |
| 21:52.11 | MysticalOS | pretty sure it's tracking wrong event though |
| 21:52.18 | MysticalOS | there should be an achievement criteria update event |
| 21:52.27 | znf | I kill rares regardless if i need them or not :D |
| 21:53.19 | MysticalOS | hmm actually i don't think SD is only problem |
| 21:53.27 | MysticalOS | i need to do some more profiling |
| 21:53.33 | MysticalOS | pet theory is spiking too when i drop bombs on these mantid |
| 21:53.44 | znf | blame Torhal |
| 21:54.00 | MysticalOS | my game is really stuttering and it's something recent, so either Sd update, or fact i installed pet theory last night, or both |
| 21:54.11 | MysticalOS | time to test each indvidiually |
| 21:55.53 | MysticalOS | yeah it's SD |
| 21:56.13 | MysticalOS | calling LoadAllAchievementMobs every criteria update is a bit much |
| 21:56.48 | znf | I have no idea what this troll boss is about :D |
| 21:57.41 | Gnarfoz | @project mutt |
| 21:57.41 | Repo | Gnarfoz: [WoW] Mutt Macro Patcher (Updated Oct 07, 2012 at 21:31 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/mutt/ |
| 21:58.35 | znf | Can someone put a god damn GLOBAL "mark mobs" option in DBM? |
| 21:59.21 | MysticalOS | there is? |
| 21:59.24 | znf | where? |
| 21:59.43 | MysticalOS | options, global and spam filters |
| 22:00.13 | znf | it pisses me off to see 5 people marking in the same time |
| 22:00.32 | znf | all DBM users |
| 22:00.36 | MysticalOS | well the troll icon marking is also buggy |
| 22:00.43 | MysticalOS | that fight has to use a LOT of syncing |
| 22:00.49 | MysticalOS | so the only way for icon marking to work IS to have a bunch do it |
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| 22:01.09 | MysticalOS | but i did change the timing in alpha to hopefully reduce it |
| 22:02.48 | MysticalOS | that global option won't affect other user, its just a global to universally disable yours from setting icons on ANY boss fight |
| 22:03.22 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/urm7u.png |
| 22:03.27 | znf | why does it do it on everyone? |
| 22:03.37 | znf | the same mark? :P |
| 22:04.18 | MysticalOS | like i said that fight is buggy |
| 22:04.26 | MysticalOS | is that with altest alpha cause i changed the timing significantly last night |
| 22:04.32 | MysticalOS | latest* |
| 22:04.35 | MysticalOS | to try and fix that |
| 22:05.15 | MysticalOS | if i can't get the syncing and timing to line up i'll be pulling all icons from that fight period, and healers will have to work out voodoo doll healing assignemnts another way |
| 22:05.47 | MysticalOS | it's just such a pain in ass, have to use syncing of GUIDs, can't use player names cause of LFR/CR |
| 22:06.04 | MysticalOS | HAVE to have multiple assists to ensure someone in the non spirit phase actually sees combat events send the syncs |
| 22:06.21 | MysticalOS | and not everyones combat log even fires in same damn order |
| 22:06.34 | MysticalOS | so if two arein that phase someone wants to set skull on one person and someone else wants to use skull on a diff person |
| 22:07.23 | Repo | mutt: 03tuill * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:07.23 | Repo | GetNumPartyMembers() and GetNumRaidMembers() removed in 5.0.4, replace with GetNumGroupMembers() |
| 22:07.31 | MysticalOS | i have it try to wait 0.5 sec for all events, then sort table by blizz group order, so all users put icons on same targets, but its' not working, the timing was off, i adjusted timing last night, beyond that who knows |
| 22:09.28 | Repo | mutt: 03tuill 04v0.60 * r33 : Tagging as v0.60 |
| 22:10.34 | Stanzilla | Kemayo: yo that latest SD update is killing perfomance pretty hard :D |
| 22:11.18 | MysticalOS | doing mantid bombing? |
| 22:11.19 | MysticalOS | :) |
| 22:11.28 | Stanzilla | nah I was raiding |
| 22:11.37 | Stanzilla | and it was unplayable |
| 22:11.40 | MysticalOS | yeah |
| 22:11.48 | Stanzilla | load screens took ages, too |
| 22:11.50 | MysticalOS | it's surprising how often CRITERIA_UPDATE fires |
| 22:11.59 | znf | HA |
| 22:12.00 | Ressy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6794031758 |
| 22:12.02 | znf | stabs Kemayo |
| 22:12.31 | MysticalOS | --self:RegisterEvent("CRITERIA_UPDATE") |
| 22:12.32 | MysticalOS | for now |
| 22:12.43 | MysticalOS | all it breaks is tooltip updates for glorious |
| 22:12.55 | Stanzilla | file/line? |
| 22:12.58 | MysticalOS | tooltip |
| 22:13.14 | MysticalOS | line 51 |
| 22:13.18 | Stanzilla | thanks |
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| 22:19.29 | Repo | ldb-vengeance: 03derschreiner 041.3-Release * r47 : Tagging as 1.3-Release |
| 22:32.35 | znf | lol |
| 22:32.38 | znf | i got ranked at feng.. |
| 22:32.42 | znf | I was dead for the last 20 seconds |
| 22:39.51 | durcyn | insufficient data |
| 22:41.50 | Repo | glow-fo-sho: 03boneschaman * r93 locales/Locale-zhTW.lua: GlowFoSho: |
| 22:41.51 | Repo | - zhTW |
| 22:42.58 | Gnarfoz | !api profiling |
| 22:42.58 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'profiling'. |
| 22:46.50 | Gnarfoz | !api cpu |
| 22:46.50 | lua_bot | Found 7 possible results for 'cpu': GetFunctionCPUUsage, GetFrameCPUUsage, GetAddOnCPUUsage, GetScriptCPUUsage, GetEventCPUUsage, ResetCPUUsage, UpdateAddOnCPUUsage |
| 22:47.01 | Gnarfoz | !api GetAddOnCPUUsage, |
| 22:47.01 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetAddOnCPUUsage,'. |
| 22:47.02 | Gnarfoz | !api GetAddOnCPUUsage |
| 22:47.02 | lua_bot | GetAddOnCPUUsage: Returns the amount of CPU time used by an addon (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAddOnCPUUsage) |
| 22:50.25 | Gnarfoz | getting random stutters in FPS :( |
| 22:52.01 | Gnarfoz | 5x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "PetTheory" tried to call the protected function "PetJournalParent:SetAttribute()". |
| 22:52.04 | Gnarfoz | aerrr |
| 22:52.06 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 22:52.34 | Gnarfoz | 1x AddonLoader\AddonLoader-r124-release.lua:125: script ran too long |
| 22:52.35 | Gnarfoz | AddonLoader\AddonLoader-r124-release.lua:125: in function "LoadAddOn" |
| 22:52.37 | Gnarfoz | that one |
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| 22:58.21 | znf | Well, this is bullshit |
| 22:58.22 | znf | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ob7uel3jetfxh8k9/details/0/?s=12334&e=12841 |
| 22:58.33 | znf | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ob7uel3jetfxh8k9/details/32/?s=12334&e=12841 |
| 22:58.36 | znf | check buffs gained |
| 22:58.37 | znf | ... |
| 22:58.42 | znf | look for windsong |
| 22:58.47 | znf | compare rogue with spriest |
| 23:03.26 | MysticalOS | windsong is broken for caster |
| 23:03.32 | MysticalOS | it barely procs at all |
| 23:03.44 | MysticalOS | it works great for holy paladins as well but other healers it's crap |
| 23:04.00 | MysticalOS | if you are a healer and not a paladin, or a caster, don't use windsong, hell power torrent is a better dps gain |
| 23:04.08 | MysticalOS | at least until they fix it |
| 23:05.13 | End_ | jade spirit should be good, but unfortunately is locked behind rep (and requires crystals) |
| 23:05.17 | Repo | coolaid: 03durcyn 07master * 50001-10-1-g4a1161e CoolAid.lua: [+1 commit] Add global spell type toggles and a slash handler |
| 23:06.27 | Repo | coolaid: 03durcyn 07master * 50001-10-2-gbd471e3 CoolAid.lua: [+1 commit] clobber vestigial order= in dispel spell list |
| 23:06.47 | Repo | coolaid: 03durcyn 0450001-11 * 589132c /: [new tag] 50001-11 |
| 23:06.49 | znf | MysticalOS, yeah, but they also disabled it for dots... |
| 23:06.53 | znf | which is retarded |
| 23:07.26 | End_ | the retarded part was not providing an alternative |
| 23:07.31 | MysticalOS | ^ |
| 23:07.38 | MysticalOS | melee have FAR more casts per minute iwth instants |
| 23:07.46 | durcyn | there's an alternative, it's just shado-pan revered gated |
| 23:07.48 | Gnarfoz | znf: you can link to tabs, btw |
| 23:07.53 | End_ | well, and that |
| 23:07.59 | MysticalOS | yea that was real dumb |
| 23:08.13 | MysticalOS | and my entire server is two days behind on dailies cause of bugs too |
| 23:08.15 | durcyn | the amount of shit they put behind rep gates is cool and all |
| 23:08.20 | MysticalOS | not a single revered GL yet |
| 23:08.25 | End_ | although windsong is more of a introductory enchant, while jade spirit is the top level enchant |
| 23:08.28 | durcyn | but when the gear is worse than drops, it's kind of silly |
| 23:08.37 | znf | there is a guy on ONE server that has the jade enchant |
| 23:08.52 | MysticalOS | hozen peace pipe farmer probably |
| 23:08.53 | MysticalOS | pre nerf |
| 23:08.53 | durcyn | znf: and i bet he cheesed dailies with CRZ |
| 23:09.00 | znf | probably farmed chests and pipes and crz |
| 23:09.03 | Gnarfoz | what's eating my FPS?! :( |
| 23:09.11 | Gnarfoz | I only installed SilverDragon and PetTheory lately |
| 23:09.17 | MysticalOS | blame kemayo |
| 23:09.24 | durcyn | if you're using handynotes, it's silverdragon |
| 23:09.27 | Gnarfoz | he has an "not instances" option that's enabled, so... :\ |
| 23:09.30 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: I am |
| 23:09.32 | Gnarfoz | how? |
| 23:09.33 | MysticalOS | actually it has nothing to do with handynotes |
| 23:09.49 | durcyn | addonprofiler was showing a huge cpu spike on the map notes |
| 23:09.50 | Gnarfoz | I get evil stutter in combat in dungeons :\ |
| 23:10.03 | MysticalOS | it's criteria update |
| 23:10.10 | MysticalOS | i already fixed it in my local copy |
| 23:10.13 | Gnarfoz | AddonProfiler wanted to blame Bartender4, OmniCC, and MikSBT |
| 23:10.22 | Gnarfoz | MysticalOS: copy of SD? |
| 23:10.32 | MysticalOS | comment out line 51 of tooltip.lua |
| 23:10.33 | MysticalOS | reloadui |
| 23:10.33 | durcyn | is he bucketing it? |
| 23:11.01 | MysticalOS | it just needs more thought, that event fires TOO often to be building a table index of glorious (a meta achievemnt with 64 items) |
| 23:11.04 | MysticalOS | every time it fires |
| 23:11.29 | MysticalOS | i was dropping bombs on mantid and going "WTF" |
| 23:11.38 | durcyn | just change it to RegisterBucketEvent("CRITERIA_UPDATE", 1) or something |
| 23:11.42 | MysticalOS | every bomb fired like 30 CRITERIA_UPDATE events |
| 23:11.55 | durcyn | assuming AceTimer's available for you |
| 23:13.08 | durcyn | blah, he's not mixing in aceevent there |
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| 23:13.26 | Gnarfoz | he could, though, SD comes with almost all of ace3 |
| 23:15.01 | durcyn | well, the RegisterBucketEvent works if you make sure AceEvent, AceTimer, and AceBucket are in the mixins in tooltip.lua, at least |
| 23:17.24 | Gnarfoz | but, MysticalOS, shouldn't SD have showed up for me in AP, then? |
| 23:17.46 | MysticalOS | the cpu hog is actually the blizz achievement ui |
| 23:17.48 | MysticalOS | so no |
| 23:17.57 | MysticalOS | the blizz achievement ui has always been very slow |
| 23:18.01 | MysticalOS | especially with large metas |
| 23:18.07 | MysticalOS | remember what happens when you track a huge meta and enter combat? |
| 23:18.09 | MysticalOS | combat lag |
| 23:18.17 | MysticalOS | just from having something tracked |
| 23:18.35 | MysticalOS | same principle, SD is checking that meta for critera_update |
| 23:18.42 | MysticalOS | and the ui combat lag is coming from blizzard |
| 23:21.46 | MysticalOS | if anything he can improve it a ton doing is in instance or in combat logdown and not doing it if either is true. and if both false, throttling it rest of time so at least it won't go crazy on bombing quests |
| 23:24.02 | Gnarfoz | so just killing anything would fire criteria_update, in, for example, scholo? |
| 23:24.15 | durcyn | Kemayo: http://www.wowace.com/paste/6358/ |
| 23:26.59 | durcyn | should probably check again on PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED, come to think of it |
| 23:27.12 | End_ | I was about to suggest that |
| 23:29.03 | Gnarfoz | would disabling and re-enabling at REGEN_DISABLED/ENABLED via a variable be better, than asking InCombatLockdown() for each event fired? |
| 23:29.43 | durcyn | i already edited the paste |
| 23:29.49 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 23:30.29 | durcyn | it's not showing up though, i wonder what the cache control headers for /paste/ look like |
| 23:31.41 | durcyn | Kemayo: or, http://www.wowace.com/paste/6359/ |
| 23:34.21 | End_ | I guess it is likely that CRITERIA_UPDATE will fire during any combat |
| 23:34.32 | End_ | it fires for all sorts of silly things |
| 23:37.18 | MysticalOS | i don't think that's enough durc, the achievement UI is still pretty aweful |
| 23:37.27 | MysticalOS | honestly i'd disable it completely in instances |
| 23:37.34 | MysticalOS | there are no mobs for glorious in them anyways |
| 23:37.48 | durcyn | you patch up zone changes then, i hate dealing with that shit |
| 23:37.54 | MysticalOS | calling achievement UI at all is just such high cost with blizzards crappy cpu hogging achieve ui |
| 23:38.01 | durcyn | especially when the functions return garbage while in loading screens |
| 23:38.08 | MysticalOS | zone changes? "if IsInInstance return end" |
| 23:38.35 | durcyn | combat check and out of combat throttling already address most of the issues, no? |
| 23:38.45 | MysticalOS | not really |
| 23:38.53 | MysticalOS | i'm not in combat when i drop bombs on mobs |
| 23:38.59 | durcyn | throttling. |
| 23:39.00 | MysticalOS | i'm like 200 feat above them |
| 23:39.12 | MysticalOS | maybe |
| 23:39.36 | durcyn | you're not in an instance for those dailies anyway, are you |
| 23:39.58 | MysticalOS | i'm actually more interested in a propper fix |
| 23:40.07 | MysticalOS | and simply not calling self:LoadAllAchievementMobs |
| 23:40.12 | MysticalOS | when it's not actually glorious progress |
| 23:40.22 | MysticalOS | function module:CRITERIA_UPDATE(_, achievement, criteria) |
| 23:40.38 | MysticalOS | if achievement is an arg, can't we just say don't do it if it's not actually our achievement we care about? |
| 23:40.48 | durcyn | oh, bucketing fucks the varargs. dammit. |
| 23:41.13 | MysticalOS | what's it return for second arg? number ID? |
| 23:41.20 | MysticalOS | or string name? |
| 23:41.34 | durcyn | !api criteria |
| 23:41.34 | lua_bot | Found 10 possible results for 'criteria': CRITERIA_COMPLETE, GetCriteriaSpell, GetQuestLogCriteriaSpell, GetAchievementCriteriaInfoByID, CRITERIA_EARNED, GetAchievementCriteriaInfo, C_Scenario.GetCriteriaInfo, SCENARIO_CRITERIA_UPDATE, CRITERIA_UPDATE, GetAchievementNumCriteria |
| 23:41.39 | durcyn | !api criteria_update |
| 23:41.39 | MysticalOS | the docs on that are crappy, i suppose i could just add a print statement |
| 23:41.39 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'criteria_update': SCENARIO_CRITERIA_UPDATE, CRITERIA_UPDATE |
| 23:45.20 | durcyn | framexml isn't even using its varargs |
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