| 00:05.16 | durcyn | unless that function's ever called by a static popup, tee fucking hee |
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| 00:28.46 | quiescens | o.o |
| 00:31.05 | MysticalOS | taints Stanzilla |
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| 03:52.14 | quiescens | pats purl |
| 04:17.13 | Repo | character-info-durability: 03scotepi * r7 / (3 files in 1 directory): (2 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 04:17.13 | Repo | Removed embeds.xml and embedded everything in the toc |
| 04:17.14 | Repo | Added slash handlers for /cid /cinfodura and /charactertnfodurability |
| 04:17.14 | Repo | Added /cid color for toggling color or /cid color on/off for setting it a specific way |
| 04:17.15 | Repo | Added /cid debug to enabled debugging |
| 04:38.28 | Repo | alttab: 03Ackis 07master * 1.9.1-1-g79f3d96 AltTabber.lua: [+1 commit] Remove a debug message I forgotted. Mybad. |
| 04:49.34 | Repo | elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r235 / (14 files in 3 directories): Now handling INSTANCE chats. New icons for right-side menu. |
| 04:57.39 | Repo | character-info-durability: 03scotepi * r8 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added CallbackHandler-1.0 |
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| 05:01.20 | Repo | elephant: 03pb_ee1 043.3 * r236 : Tagging as 3.3 |
| 05:04.40 | Repo | character-info-durability: 03scotepi * r9 CharacterInfoDurability.toc: Added CallbackHandler-1.0 as an OptionalDeps |
| 05:05.05 | Repo | character-info-durability: 03scotepi 040.2 * r10 : Tagging as 0.2 |
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| 08:20.07 | Repo | shaoffearassist: 03gabestah * r9 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 08:20.07 | Repo | ADDED: Config > Pattern option to allow for a selectable variety of patterns for the player to follow outside of the default pattern provided. |
| 08:20.08 | Repo | ADDED: Pattern - Minimal Movement: Tries to eliminate all extraneous movement for a player by moving as early as possible from the initial safety zone and only moving to a nearby pie section (one left or one right), and therefore purposely allowing a maximum of one Dread Spray hit in the process. |
| 08:20.08 | Repo | UPDATED: setPieColor() now accepts multiple pies (as a table value) as well as a single pie index, to allow patterns to highlight multiple safety pies if needed. Only implemented in Test > Pattern - Minimal Movement at the moment but planned for use in a future orb collection pattern. |
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| 10:02.00 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 15:11.29 | Chosi | any rogues available? |
| 15:11.49 | Stanzilla | :E |
| 15:12.09 | Chosi | is that a yes? |
| 15:12.10 | Chosi | :P |
| 15:12.51 | Stanzilla | maybe :o |
| 15:12.53 | Stanzilla | just ask away |
| 15:13.35 | Chosi | i'm looking for an assa rogue who's playing without exp cap and his/her experience |
| 15:14.11 | Stanzilla | do you like pain in the ass? like really big pain? |
| 15:14.18 | Chosi | then drop the cap |
| 15:14.19 | Chosi | i know :) |
| 15:14.40 | Chosi | nah i actually like cycle stability |
| 15:24.34 | Repo | alts: 03talryn1 07master * 0.8-1-g9073658 Alts.lua: [+1 commit] Clean up globals. |
| 15:25.08 | Repo | character-notes: 03talryn1 07master * 1.9-1-gac79cde CharacterNotes.lua: [+1 commit] Clean up globals. |
| 15:26.33 | Repo | shield-tracker: 03talryn1 07master * 0.3-3-g4fe4ef1 ShieldTracker.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 15:26.34 | Repo | 4fe4ef1: Clean up globals. |
| 15:26.34 | Repo | e535f1e: Replace underscore with local variable. |
| 15:33.37 | Talryn | All regions should be on patch 5.0+ by now, correct? |
| 15:38.44 | Repo | blood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 07master * 0.23-3-g080bf5e BloodShieldTracker.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 15:38.44 | Repo | 080bf5e: * Clean up globals. * Minor fixes. * Add delay for gear detection. |
| 15:38.45 | Repo | 7d63b09: Replace underscore with local variable. |
| 15:45.29 | znf | @project blood-shield-tracker |
| 15:45.30 | Repo | znf: [WoW] Blood Shield Tracker (Updated Dec 17, 2012 at 15:39 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/blood-shield-tracker/ |
| 15:45.34 | znf | Talryn, yes |
| 15:45.47 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz ? |
| 15:46.21 | Talryn | Thanks znf |
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| 15:51.48 | sb | Chosi: why would you do that? |
| 15:53.12 | Chosi | play without exp cap? |
| 15:53.19 | Chosi | because mastery. |
| 15:53.21 | Chosi | aliens.jpg |
| 16:00.47 | sb | hm, interesting, i dont have any taint problems on my rogue Stanzilla |
| 16:01.23 | sb | Stanzilla: did you notice the "change" to the shadowform button? (i think it happened with 5.0) - it doesnt change anymore when in shadowform |
| 16:01.59 | Stanzilla | I don't have it shown |
| 16:04.34 | quiescens | moo? |
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| 16:37.35 | Chosi | can i tell reforgelite to calculate longer manually? |
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| 16:43.40 | Stanzilla | not yet |
| 16:43.54 | Stanzilla | that feature was removed but will be added back some day |
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| 17:31.14 | chiel | man... my raid groups are spawning diagonally when switching between horizontal/vertical layout :/ |
| 17:31.37 | Stanzilla | with SUF? |
| 17:31.38 | chiel | what's the correct way to remove attributes from header frames? |
| 17:31.41 | chiel | nah, oUF |
| 17:31.59 | chiel | if there's more than 5 groups I switch from horizontal to vertical |
| 17:32.06 | Stanzilla | you could check the latest push to suf, I think he fixed something similiar there |
| 17:34.15 | chiel | hmm |
| 17:34.23 | chiel | can I just clone it locally? |
| 17:34.56 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 18:35.59 | sb | oh, znf ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) again! |
| 18:36.11 | znf | ( ͡* ͜ʖ ͡*) |
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| 19:12.42 | Repo | fantasyloot: 03Morodan 07master * 0.8 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] initial |
| 19:12.44 | Repo | fantasyloot: 03Morodan 040.8 * 9300a21 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.8 |
| 19:14.35 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 19:14.38 | Gnarfoz | @project fantasyloot |
| 19:14.38 | Repo | Gnarfoz: [WoW] FantasyLoot (Updated Dec 17, 2012 at 19:12 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/fantasyloot/ |
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| 19:44.22 | Gnarfoz | fascistgnome getting blamed for taint |
| 19:44.23 | Gnarfoz | \o/ |
| 19:44.27 | Gnarfoz | or rather, \o |
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| 19:52.31 | Funkeh` | xmas shopping is tiring |
| 19:52.36 | Funkeh` | and I'm not even done |
| 19:52.41 | Funkeh` | and I even had a woman helping me |
| 20:09.42 | znf | or maybe the woman made you even more tired :P |
| 20:10.02 | nevcairiel | shopping with a woman does not make it easier |
| 20:10.13 | Primer | unless she's hot |
| 20:10.40 | Humbedooh | why would that help? |
| 20:11.02 | Fisker | mental fapping |
| 20:11.58 | Humbedooh | http://www.explosm.net/comics/3018/ :\ |
| 20:13.13 | Primer | bwahaha nice |
| 20:17.43 | Fisker | https://plus.google.com/+ColbyBrown/posts/YKjxn3RfDFS |
| 20:21.25 | Funkeh` | holy shit, people use G+ |
| 20:22.02 | Primer | It's the new myspace! |
| 20:22.09 | znf | what's the path for spell icons textures? |
| 20:22.21 | Primer | C colon enter |
| 20:23.06 | Fisker | why are you mad Funkeh` ? |
| 20:23.25 | Funkeh` | steam coming out my ears and stuff |
| 20:23.46 | Funkeh` | znf, Interface\Icons |
| 20:24.10 | Fisker | i wish steam came out of my ears |
| 20:25.47 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 20:25.55 | znf | thanks Funkeh` |
| 20:25.56 | Fisker | ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| 20:26.05 | Fisker | seen a wireless charger yet? |
| 20:26.13 | znf | Funkeh`, oh, btw, any chance for an option to be able to copy timestamps, too? |
| 20:26.23 | Funkeh` | Fisker, my tothbrush charges wirelessly! |
| 20:26.33 | Fisker | fuck your tothbrush |
| 20:26.41 | Funkeh` | sounds sore |
| 20:26.47 | Funkeh` | znf, in the single-line copy? |
| 20:26.48 | znf | He just wants to put it up his ass |
| 20:26.50 | znf | Funkeh`, yeah |
| 20:26.52 | Fisker | not sure what a tothbrush even is |
| 20:27.00 | znf | wait, there's a multi-line copy? |
| 20:27.07 | Fisker | pls znf |
| 20:27.29 | Funkeh` | there's a whole module dedicated to it :s |
| 20:27.53 | znf | how? I only noticed the single line :D |
| 20:28.10 | znf | double-clicking the chat frame tab doesn't seem to be working for me |
| 20:28.14 | Funkeh` | the single line copy is part of the timestamp module, as you're converting the timestamps into links |
| 20:28.33 | Funkeh` | the multi line copy is part of the copychat module |
| 20:29.05 | Funkeh` | znf, it should actually show a tooltip when you hover the tab |
| 20:29.32 | znf | I disabled that :D |
| 20:29.53 | Funkeh` | znf, that means you actually went into the copychat module to do that, so how on earth did you miss the functionality? |
| 20:30.07 | znf | I didn't bother to read :D |
| 20:30.36 | Funkeh` | Can I slap you? |
| 20:33.19 | znf | no |
| 20:34.44 | Funkeh` | znf, anyway shift click a chat tab |
| 20:35.01 | Funkeh` | and thanks for bringing it up because I forgot to update the description of the module |
| 20:35.07 | znf | ^^ |
| 20:35.20 | znf | my ignorance serves a place |
| 20:35.23 | znf | a purpose |
| 20:49.49 | Repo | basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r425 Locales/enUS.lua: ChatCopy: Fix description, double-click > shift-click |
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| 20:54.34 | Repo | serenity-now: 03calahil * r42 SerenityNow/modules/Debuffs.lua: |
| 20:54.35 | Repo | -fixed issue where if the debuff had no time limit other then the duration of the originating spell effect it would corrupt the debuff bars. |
| 20:55.01 | Primer | than |
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| 21:24.56 | Repo | aloft: 03acapela * r460 Aloft (13 files in 4 directories): update with WoWInterface Aloft-5.1.3-2477. |
| 21:25.56 | Repo | aloft: 03acapela 045.1.3-2477 * r461 : Tagging as 5.1.3-2477 |
| 21:28.46 | Repo | character-info-durability: 03scotepi * r11 CharacterInfoDurability.lua: Added a separator on the version output while loading |
| 21:28.46 | Repo | If your lowest item is less then 35% it will be colored in the stats frame |
| 21:32.59 | Torhal|work | disintegrates znf. |
| 21:33.11 | Torhal|work | "i didn't bother to read :D", indeed. |
| 21:33.13 | Stanzilla | ghostcrawler is such a fucking moron |
| 21:33.31 | Stanzilla | @edmcdonald11: @Ghostcrawler Spriests are experimenting w/ Holy dps because single target is so poor even w/ mastery useless as holy dps. Buffs for shadow? |
| 21:33.33 | Stanzilla | @Ghostcrawler: @edmcdonald11 I find that hard to believe.... |
| 21:33.37 | Stanzilla | @Ghostcrawler: @edmcdonald11 I think the issue is if Holy's DPS (probably just Mind Sear) is too good if someone can out DPS half the DPS on heroic. |
| 21:33.43 | Stanzilla | case of znf, DID NOT BOTHER TO READ |
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| 21:40.44 | Fisker | why are you mad Stanzilla ? |
| 21:40.57 | Stanzilla | 22:33:05 ∙ Stanzilla: ghostcrawler is such a fucking moron |
| 21:41.06 | Kalroth | umad? |
| 21:41.39 | Kalroth | also he's right |
| 21:41.46 | Kalroth | holy dps is too good, shadow dps isn't too poor |
| 21:41.55 | Gnarfoz | don't trust someone who plays a class to assess how well it's doing |
| 21:42.25 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 21:42.27 | Fisker | wtf |
| 21:42.34 | Fisker | amd are making linux drivers that won't suck? |
| 21:42.44 | Fisker | the apocalypse is coming |
| 21:43.42 | Kalroth | that'll be a first |
| 21:43.55 | Funkeh` | probably Valves fault |
| 21:44.01 | Kalroth | :D |
| 21:44.12 | Funkeh` | those fuckers |
| 21:47.28 | znf | Torhal|work, shut up and fix addons |
| 21:47.33 | znf | Fix pet-theory, for crying out loud! |
| 21:47.46 | Funkeh` | where has spotify hidden there so called web version |
| 21:47.53 | Gnarfoz | play.spotify.com |
| 21:48.07 | Gnarfoz | fix all addons on wowace to use preferredindex = NUM_STATICPOPUPS or whatever the constant is |
| 21:48.21 | Fisker | spotify is terrible though Funkeh` |
| 21:48.29 | Gnarfoz | it's just the best music streaming service |
| 21:48.34 | Gnarfoz | still terrible, but still the best |
| 21:48.35 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 21:48.36 | Funkeh` | Fisker, I know |
| 21:48.37 | Fisker | (sorry jnwhiteh) |
| 21:48.37 | znf | I prefer free GrooveShark or Deezer :D |
| 21:48.48 | Fisker | music.google.com = best streaming service |
| 21:49.14 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 21:49.16 | Gnarfoz | except they suck |
| 21:49.23 | Gnarfoz | and it's not a streaming service, but a cloud player |
| 21:49.26 | Gnarfoz | wtf is wrong with you ^^ |
| 21:49.31 | Gnarfoz | also, tanking shek'zeer, brb |
| 21:49.32 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 21:49.57 | Fisker | which makes it all that much more embarassing when they're better than a streaming service |
| 21:49.58 | Fisker | bam |
| 21:50.09 | Gnarfoz | except you can't play what you don't own |
| 21:50.12 | Gnarfoz | making it pointless |
| 21:50.14 | Gnarfoz | grats to you, too |
| 21:50.42 | Torhal|work | znf: Meh. |
| 21:50.43 | Funkeh` | I use skydrive to store the stuff I own and grooveshark/soundclound to listen to new stuff |
| 21:50.53 | Funkeh` | the thing I was looking for wasnt on grooveshark though |
| 21:51.09 | Funkeh` | and I must be blind because I can't figure out that spotify site |
| 21:51.18 | Funkeh` | seems to link me to the client |
| 21:51.28 | Gnarfoz | no clue, I just saw the URL in a news post |
| 21:51.34 | Gnarfoz | I don't use the service any more |
| 21:51.37 | Fisker | you can play what you don't own Gnarfoz |
| 21:51.41 | Gnarfoz | since when |
| 21:51.50 | Fisker | since before it was introduced |
| 21:51.54 | Gnarfoz | not really |
| 21:51.57 | Fisker | just pirate your music and upload it |
| 21:51.58 | Fisker | voila |
| 21:52.01 | Gnarfoz | hahaha |
| 21:52.02 | Fisker | streaming of music you don't own |
| 21:52.03 | Funkeh` | lol... |
| 21:52.06 | Gnarfoz | yes, now go play in traffic |
| 21:52.14 | Gnarfoz | I know *that* works, but *you* know that's not what I meant |
| 21:52.19 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:52.42 | Fisker | streaming services really far away from piracy anyway |
| 21:52.48 | Fisker | +aren't |
| 21:52.59 | Gnarfoz | depends on legislature, I guess |
| 21:54.28 | Funkeh` | fuck that spotify site, managed to find it on soundcloud <3 |
| 21:57.49 | znf | youtube? :P |
| 22:06.51 | znf | Funkeh`, spot the issue: http://i.imgur.com/fY8vE.png |
| 22:08.03 | Stanzilla | person too dumb to link |
| 22:08.04 | Stanzilla | issue found |
| 22:08.55 | Funkeh` | znf, wouldn't you want the actual site without the google shite? |
| 22:09.31 | znf | I would, but shouldn't it fill up the whole thingie? :P |
| 22:12.03 | Funkeh` | znf, I guess, throw it into a ticket please |
| 22:12.12 | znf | nah, leave it like that |
| 22:14.52 | Stanzilla | Fisker: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=166496 |
| 22:15.55 | Funkeh` | I'll probably end up "nerfing" the restrctions on the urlcopy anyway, probably down to 2 or 3 patterns |
| 22:16.17 | Fisker | :) Stanzilla |
| 22:16.19 | Fisker | i like it |
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| 22:22.26 | Gnarfoz | you like being dumb? |
| 22:27.08 | Stanzilla | udumbo Gnarfoz |
| 22:27.19 | Gnarfoz | my ears are not /that/ big |
| 22:31.00 | Repo | character-info-durability: 03scotepi * r12 CharacterInfoDurability.lua: (1 line trimmed from commit message) |
| 22:31.00 | Repo | Fixed red (under 25%) to be more legible |
| 22:31.01 | Repo | Fixed some issues if you are naked |
| 22:31.01 | Repo | Added event PLAYER_DEAD |
| 22:34.04 | Fisker | why are you mad Gnarfoz ? |
| 22:35.09 | Gnarfoz | same reason you are dumb, of course <: |
| 22:35.46 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/2DF6j.jpg |
| 22:39.43 | Stanzilla | whats wrong |
| 22:45.22 | Fisker | i'm not dumb Gnarfoz |
| 22:45.23 | Fisker | sry :( |
| 22:45.39 | Gnarfoz | so why do you yearn for 64 b versions of software that doesn't benefit from it |
| 22:46.08 | Fisker | in what way doesn't it benefit from it? |
| 22:46.49 | durcyn | if it was firefox it'd make sense, sucks having to stop memory leaks at 3 gigabytes |
| 22:47.07 | Fisker | memory isn't the only benefit of doing 64-bit |
| 22:47.16 | Gnarfoz | what else do you think is? |
| 22:47.21 | Gnarfoz | because you're probably wrong |
| 22:47.37 | Fisker | Why don't you tell me whats wrong first then? |
| 22:47.54 | Gnarfoz | because I don't know your assumptions |
| 22:47.58 | Fisker | you don't have to |
| 22:48.02 | Gnarfoz | I do |
| 22:48.02 | Fisker | you already know the downsides |
| 22:48.03 | Fisker | lets hear them |
| 22:48.16 | Gnarfoz | I'm not going to guess what you think is better about it |
| 22:48.49 | Fisker | so in the end it comes down to this |
| 22:49.00 | Fisker | you have no knowledge of what benefits or downsides there are to 64-bit clients |
| 22:49.04 | Gnarfoz | I just know you're very likely to be wrong about it, since there's unlikely to be anything in a webbrowser that's going to benefit from having bigger pointers |
| 22:49.07 | durcyn | you're both amazing software engineers |
| 22:49.16 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: meaning what? |
| 22:49.38 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: no, it doesn't, it just means I'm not going to guess your assumptions |
| 22:49.45 | Fisker | you already did |
| 22:49.54 | Fisker | but you missed it |
| 22:49.58 | Gnarfoz | no I didn't |
| 22:50.02 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 22:50.04 | durcyn | Fisker: find me a web page that needs 64 gigabytes of memory space to render |
| 22:50.07 | Fisker | so you don't guess my assumptions |
| 22:50.16 | Fisker | then yet when i tell you, that you missed your mark you know you didn't |
| 22:50.16 | Gnarfoz | you "I like it" and :) about there being a 64 bit build some time, because there's now a bug tracker entry for it |
| 22:50.21 | Fisker | so you're knowing what my assumptions are |
| 22:50.24 | Fisker | but yet you won't guess them |
| 22:50.27 | Fisker | cool story bro |
| 22:50.52 | Fisker | durcyn i already said that memory isn't why it's a good thing |
| 22:51.01 | durcyn | you didn't say why it was a good thing |
| 22:51.06 | Fisker | no |
| 22:51.18 | Gnarfoz | and I'm waiting for you to say what else, then |
| 22:51.18 | Fisker | because i'm waiting for Gnarfoz to come with his presumptious statement before making one of my own |
| 22:51.34 | Gnarfoz | you said it wasn't *that* so it must be something *else* |
| 22:51.47 | Gnarfoz | no reason for me to guess what that "else" might be |
| 22:51.56 | Fisker | You made the argument |
| 22:52.02 | Gnarfoz | (you trying to troll me on semantics is not a reason) |
| 22:52.02 | Fisker | me wanting a 64-bit browser = me being dumb |
| 22:52.05 | Fisker | now finish that argument |
| 22:52.05 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 22:52.11 | durcyn | in every benchmark i've seen 32 and 64-bit binaries benchmark about the same, so |
| 22:52.14 | Fisker | and i will offer my rebuttal |
| 22:52.22 | durcyn | plugins are an issue too |
| 22:52.52 | Gnarfoz | you're dumb for wanting a 64 bit browser when there's no relevant/tangible/big benefits to that |
| 22:52.56 | Gnarfoz | argument finished |
| 22:53.21 | Fisker | not really |
| 22:53.25 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 22:53.26 | Fisker | you said that from the beginning |
| 22:53.29 | Gnarfoz | I did! |
| 22:53.37 | Funkeh` | neither of you have even touched on the security benefits of 64bit? :D |
| 22:53.38 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 22:53.48 | Gnarfoz | at least someone brings *something* to the table |
| 22:53.50 | Fisker | but since i'm "dumb" i wouldn't know about that Funkeh` |
| 22:54.06 | Fisker | i just wanted 64-bit browser so my chrome could address several terabytes of memory |
| 22:54.08 | Fisker | herp derp |
| 22:54.57 | durcyn | is there any appreciable overhead to the windows-on-windows layer? |
| 22:55.04 | Gnarfoz | not really |
| 22:55.07 | durcyn | this would be a good time to share your research, Fisker |
| 22:55.09 | Gnarfoz | since it executes natively, anyway |
| 22:55.34 | Gnarfoz | (which is the "beauty" (*cough*) of x86-64) |
| 22:55.46 | Fisker | i'm not a fancy security engineer durcyn |
| 22:55.57 | Gnarfoz | you're a fancy troll! :D |
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| 22:56.03 | Gnarfoz | the fanciest |
| 22:56.18 | durcyn | i never even thought you were a security engineer Fisker, but i do think you're fancy |
| 22:56.21 | Fisker | but it was my belief that 64-bit versions (while also offering less userbase "protection") will be have better security due to the bigger memory it can address |
| 22:56.36 | Fisker | which makes address space randomisation much better than their 32-bit counterparts |
| 22:56.38 | Gnarfoz | snake oil is not security |
| 22:56.58 | durcyn | what's ASLR have to do with this |
| 22:57.00 | Gnarfoz | and I haven't heard of ASLR working better because of a bigger adress space |
| 22:57.11 | Fisker | as i said durcyn i am not security expert |
| 22:57.15 | Fisker | and yeah it does Gnarfoz |
| 22:57.24 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make sense, really |
| 22:57.30 | Fisker | of course not |
| 22:57.33 | Funkeh` | can't be arsed being drawn intoan argument at the moment, but 64bit allows gives ASLR more entropy |
| 22:57.39 | Fisker | it's like if you have a dice that goes 1-6 |
| 22:57.44 | Fisker | and then one that goes 1-60000 |
| 22:57.48 | Fisker | the chance of hitting 6 is the same |
| 22:57.49 | Fisker | right? |
| 22:57.59 | Gnarfoz | except that the things ASLR is supposed to prevent aren't really the type you can roll a dice at, willy-nilly |
| 22:58.20 | Gnarfoz | at least that's my understaning of that ROP shizzle |
| 22:58.40 | Gnarfoz | and of course, having exploits work on any system because entry points are always identical |
| 22:59.02 | Gnarfoz | man I'm dragging down this LFR group so bad by having this... whatever this is here |
| 22:59.19 | Fisker | either way that was my reason and i think it is a tangible benefit, so there |
| 22:59.20 | Fisker | i need sleep |
| 22:59.45 | Funkeh` | you will never be able to prevent exploits, only increase the difficulty/cost in the whole process |
| 22:59.58 | Funkeh` | things like HEASLR is just another process |
| 22:59.59 | Fisker | yep exactly |
| 23:00.06 | Gnarfoz | of course, but an increase is still a benefit |
| 23:00.49 | Funkeh` | it's good to know they are working on getting a 64bit version done imo |
| 23:01.07 | Gnarfoz | well, if they've got time to spend on it, it certainly can't hurt |
| 23:01.16 | Gnarfoz | (except those poor people who will experience plugin hell :D) |
| 23:01.32 | Funkeh` | the top plugins are all 64bit compatible |
| 23:01.51 | Funkeh` | (flash, java, silverlight) |
| 23:02.22 | Gnarfoz | quicktime is probably higher than silverlight o_O |
| 23:02.30 | Gnarfoz | also, silverlight for chrome? that exists? |
| 23:02.43 | Gnarfoz | also, for good measure: fuck silverlight |
| 23:02.47 | Funkeh` | Silverlight is needed for some US streaming sites |
| 23:02.49 | Fisker | i only need flash and java |
| 23:02.50 | Fisker | fuck everything else |
| 23:02.56 | Funkeh` | there is no chance on earth quicktime is more popular |
| 23:02.58 | durcyn | chrome ignores silverlight on most platforms |
| 23:03.16 | durcyn | Funkeh`: install base is huge due to itunes, usage is probably lower |
| 23:03.19 | Gnarfoz | quicktime has been around for *way* longer |
| 23:03.26 | Gnarfoz | and nobody uses silverlight for anything |
| 23:03.27 | Funkeh` | yeah that's what I mean sorry |
| 23:03.38 | Gnarfoz | (except maybe 3 US streaming sites? no idea, never heard of any using silverlight) |
| 23:03.54 | durcyn | netflix uses it exclusively due to the bullshit DRM microsoft built into it |
| 23:07.25 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 23:07.43 | Gnarfoz | has bigwigs_garajalcrossover worked for anyone, ever |
| 23:07.45 | Fisker | Maybe if Netflix could integrate gracefully into XBMC i might actually have paid for it |
| 23:07.49 | Gnarfoz | if it's supposed to print anything into chat |
| 23:07.58 | znf | XBMC! XBMC! |
| 23:08.04 | Fisker | but because of the silverlight bullshit i had to open browser windows and shit |
| 23:08.05 | Gnarfoz | it just errors and shows stuff locally, that's all it ever managed to do for me :D |
| 23:08.19 | Gnarfoz | (and I just cleared the errors it had, /sadface) |
| 23:08.24 | Gnarfoz | some bit.band error ^^ |
| 23:16.07 | Repo | New experimental addon: BLT Raid Cooldowns - http://www.wowace.com/addons/blt-raid-cooldowns/ |
| 23:17.14 | Funkeh` | bacon lettuce tomato raid cooldowns eh |
| 23:17.38 | Stanzilla | fuck you, now I'm hungry :( |
| 23:18.04 | durcyn | that reminds me, there's a red lobster next door to my hotel, tonight we dine in hell |
| 23:18.11 | Megalon | hungry you, now I'm fuck :( |
| 23:18.19 | Gnarfoz | that sounds better |
| 23:18.27 | Gnarfoz | also, good idea, I'm going to cook something |
| 23:18.35 | Gnarfoz | after this shitty 2nd half MSV LFR |
| 23:19.38 | Stanzilla | why are you in a hotel durcyn |
| 23:20.04 | Gnarfoz | bitches at home is not good karma |
| 23:20.16 | Gnarfoz | ...I think the correct term would've been hookers |
| 23:29.59 | Stanzilla | wtf is wrong with cloud atlas btw |
| 23:30.01 | Stanzilla | such a strange movie |
| 23:30.59 | Gnarfoz | must be because of the girl who was a boy! |
| 23:31.10 | Gnarfoz | Xenophobia: engage |
| 23:33.09 | durcyn | you want me to sleep in a dumpster instead, Stanzilla? |
| 23:34.06 | Stanzilla | maybe |
| 23:34.15 | Stanzilla | I actually wanted to know why you travelled :D |
| 23:34.42 | durcyn | oh, i have a job. |
| 23:36.55 | Stanzilla | HNNG |
| 23:37.04 | Stanzilla | won't ask for details then |
| 23:38.42 | Gnarfoz | he just meant, compared to you, you useless slob :D |
| 23:39.20 | Gnarfoz | gah, is homeland s02e12 >60 min? |
| 23:39.35 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:39.44 | Stanzilla | also weird ending :( |
| 23:39.46 | Gnarfoz | taking forever to d/l |
| 23:39.57 | Stanzilla | blame your bauernleitung |
| 23:40.19 | Gnarfoz | I blame the state |
| 23:41.11 | Gnarfoz | privatizing communications, worst idea ever, now nobody wants to spend money on infrastructre |
| 23:42.21 | durcyn | man homeland may have been really good in israel, but the us adaptation is garbage |
| 23:43.20 | Stanzilla | I found it to be "ok" |
| 23:43.40 | durcyn | the characters are made of cardboard, the dialog is awful, and the portrayal of how intelligence agencies operate isn't even close to anything approaching reality |
| 23:43.51 | Gnarfoz | when is it ever |
| 23:44.01 | durcyn | not to mention the tiresome nationalistic spew |
| 23:44.19 | durcyn | you can tell it was meant to cheerlead Mossad |
| 23:46.33 | Stanzilla | I probably missed half of the content because I fell asleep and/or levelled my alts |
| 23:49.19 | Stanzilla | also I don't like the new chrome new-tab-pagte |
| 23:49.20 | Stanzilla | -t |
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| 23:56.18 | nebula169 | new? |
| 23:56.48 | nebula169 | it's looked like this for as long as i can remember |
| 23:58.00 | Stanzilla | there is a new one on the canary builds |
| 23:58.39 | Stanzilla | nebula169: http://i.imgur.com/MDegD.png |
| 23:58.43 | nebula169 | oh with the search bar? |
| 23:59.22 | nebula169 | people that full screen their internet browser are the bane of my existance |
| 23:59.29 | nebula169 | maximize, even |
