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| 00:17.17 | znf | Mkay, Windows 8. |
| 00:19.24 | znf | mkay, Classic Start Menu sucks :( |
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| 00:35.35 | Primer | Drugs are bad, mkay? |
| 00:38.18 | znf | well, Start8 is not /that/ bad |
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| 00:51.29 | nebula169 | not sure why people give a fuck about a start menu |
| 00:51.51 | nebula169 | faster to hit start then type what you want and hit enter than drilling down the menus |
| 00:52.18 | nebula169 | suppose i don't care about the context switch because i just have it on a different monitor |
| 00:56.23 | znf | nebula169, the switch is annoying as fuck if you're on a single monitor |
| 00:56.45 | nebula169 | why, you're not doing anything if you're trying to open a program |
| 00:57.14 | znf | I run 5-10-15-20 tasks at a time, I'm most definatelly doing something on the PC all the time |
| 00:57.49 | nebula169 | but your focus when you normally hit the start menu isn't any of those other things, its looking at the menu to open whatever it is you're opening |
| 00:58.10 | znf | I love my recently opened list, for example |
| 00:58.27 | Gnarfoz | nebula169: I want to be able to open stuff without using the keyboard, too |
| 00:58.39 | Gnarfoz | win8's start screen is a horrible step backward in that department |
| 00:58.53 | znf | also, I sometimes install something new and I don't know it's exact name |
| 00:58.54 | Gnarfoz | especially compared to the just mentioned recently opened list ^^ |
| 00:59.07 | znf | so looking trough the installed folders of recent apps helps |
| 00:59.30 | nebula169 | znf: win+q |
| 00:59.47 | znf | nebula169, mini hearth attack |
| 01:00.05 | nebula169 | i dunno, i just never used anything but the search box on the start menu since vista |
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| 01:02.29 | znf | freakin' bronies, can't search for a "vector rainbow" wallpaper that I keep stumbling upon ponies |
| 01:09.13 | znf | Hmm. One thing I'm getting annoyed by this default Win8 theme is that while it feels fresh, the borders around windows seem incredibly huge |
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| 01:18.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hmm, LAV splitter (or some other part of it) can't do these "silhoutte" type commentary tracks? (I don't know what they're called) |
| 01:18.54 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 01:22.02 | znf | oh god, it's 4:20am and I'm still in the office |
| 01:22.23 | znf | at least I'm sleeping in the hotel tonight so I don't have to go a long way home |
| 01:22.29 | oscarucb | anyone know a good RL addon for planning/coordinating raid defensive cds? |
| 01:23.37 | znf | oscarucb, time to write one! |
| 01:23.45 | znf | my guildies will love you long time |
| 01:24.58 | znf | also, while you're there, you might want to make an addon like OnYourMark that actually works, I trust your awesome coding skills |
| 01:26.36 | pompy | like a countdown till you pull? |
| 01:27.44 | znf | I'd love something as simple as something like a macro slot to output to chat "next cooldown: X, Y, Z" every time you push a UI button or something |
| 01:28.16 | oscarucb | yea thats basically what im looking for |
| 01:28.46 | oscarucb | something to scan the raid, determine all available raid defensive cds, and then give the RL buttons to coordinate telling players to pop each |
| 01:29.14 | znf | uh, that's even better :o |
| 01:29.20 | znf | told'ya you're smart |
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| 02:09.01 | Torhal | @ping |
| 02:09.01 | Repo | Torhal: Pong. |
| 02:09.19 | quiescens | pats repo |
| 02:14.07 | pompy | be nice to Repo, Torhal. :( |
| 02:14.21 | Torhal | @curse pompy |
| 02:14.21 | Repo | Torhal: Project "pompy" was not found. |
| 02:14.41 | pompy | hmm |
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| 04:28.25 | quiescens | moo |
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| 04:59.06 | MysticalOS | intervene/sit is so win for vengenace. except when you get crit for 1 million because you still have decapitate. oops |
| 05:01.39 | nebula169 | yeeea, i do that alot on horridon, hurts during rampage |
| 05:02.24 | MysticalOS | i literally exploded. my healers were like "WTF, you aren't even tanking" |
| 05:02.47 | MysticalOS | full to 0 |
| 05:02.53 | MysticalOS | crit for 1 million |
| 05:02.54 | nebula169 | lol |
| 05:03.05 | MysticalOS | i learned though |
| 05:03.12 | MysticalOS | if i'm gonna intervene with decapitate, at least have shield block up |
| 05:03.17 | nebula169 | really wish they'd do something about vengeance ;[ hate gaming that shit |
| 05:03.17 | MysticalOS | so crit only hits for 500k |
| 05:03.23 | MysticalOS | same |
| 05:03.48 | MysticalOS | it's especially dumb on heroic lei shen cause our dps is important. but if you do the fight properly, you spend 20-25 sconds with no vengeance just rotating on decapitate |
| 05:04.03 | MysticalOS | so you end up tanking with debuff, or doing gimmicky shit like intervening and sitting |
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| 05:58.19 | oscarucb | so... the SPELL_DAMAGE CLEU event includes some fields that are not listed in http://www.wowpedia.org/CLEU |
| 05:58.28 | oscarucb | did they add some fields recently? |
| 05:59.26 | quiescens | gasp |
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| 06:19.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: the splitter generally has nothing to do with how stuff ends up in your stream, you need a proper subtitle renderer for that |
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| 07:00.37 | Stanzilla | morning |
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| 08:39.11 | Stanzilla | Caleb|: didn't you have a patch to hide auracle in pet battles? |
| 08:55.17 | sb | morning |
| 08:55.46 | bluspacecow | oh noes! |
| 08:55.51 | bluspacecow | *patches caleb* |
| 08:56.36 | quiescens | give blu a cookie |
| 08:57.17 | bluspacecow | yay COOKIE |
| 08:57.31 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 08:57.50 | Stanzilla | if I could know how to hide those windows, yeah that would be nice |
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| 09:08.23 | sb | Stanzilla: mhhh, gtx 670, how much? :D |
| 09:08.48 | sb | coworker wants to buy (well, depends on price, but... *shrug*) :D |
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| 09:10.52 | sb | wow, new is still sold for 350 eur (i bought it for 380 eur :o) |
| 09:13.25 | nevcairiel | yeah price didntgo down much |
| 09:13.35 | nevcairiel | you want to buy my 680? :P |
| 09:14.04 | sb | no :D |
| 09:14.21 | Kalroth | 3x titan or gtfo! |
| 09:14.23 | bluspacecow | is it crunchy in a pickle sammich ? |
| 09:14.58 | nevcairiel | if you want it to be |
| 09:16.16 | Repo | auracle: 03stanzilla * r137 Auracle.lua: we now disable in pet battles |
| 09:18.40 | nevcairiel | i should get off my ass and ebay it on the weekend |
| 09:19.09 | Repo | auracle: 03stanzilla * r138 Auracle.lua: cleanup |
| 09:26.19 | sb | nevcairiel: i hate ebaying stuff :/ |
| 09:27.10 | sb | thats why i keep old hardware or sell it to coworkers/friends :p |
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| 09:33.43 | nevcairiel | well the 680 i still worth quite a bit, and since you dont want it :P |
| 09:43.19 | Repo | squire2: 03Stanzilla 07master * v1.3.11-1-g9db95ce Config.lua: [+1 commit] let's not spam that debug line here |
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| 09:57.12 | znf | So, how did MS managed to screw up Office 2013, too? :-/ |
| 09:57.26 | haste | I thought they barely made any changes to 2013? |
| 09:57.50 | znf | haste, well, I need to do 3 more clicks to save a file :-/ |
| 09:58.03 | haste | =/ |
| 09:58.05 | sb | strg+s? |
| 09:58.09 | znf | previously I used file -> save as (in 2010) and the Save dialogue popped up |
| 09:58.32 | sb | ctrl+s :| |
| 09:58.33 | znf | Now I have to do file -> save as > select computer > select folder (browse if it's not in the recent ones) |
| 09:58.41 | sb | stupid german keyboard |
| 09:58.52 | sb | or ctrl+shift+s for "save as" |
| 09:58.54 | mitch0 | s/ .*$// :) |
| 09:59.11 | znf | sb, I start with a template that I need to save both as PDF an as XLSX |
| 09:59.16 | znf | also, ctrl+shift+s doesn't work |
| 09:59.28 | sb | oh |
| 09:59.37 | znf | and what the hell is with the uppercase menus? O.o |
| 10:00.46 | znf | plus, previously when I hit save-as, I had Office reverting back to the spreadsheet in background and the dialogue was in front. Now it shows me the silly metro-esque menu in the back |
| 10:03.14 | znf | oh, and the dropmenus behave weird in the dialogues (not sure if it's win8 doing this or office 2013), but previously when I selected a dropmenu and typed "PDF" in a quick succession, I had the menu sitting still at the PDF position. Now it goes trough all the letters trying to find the closest match O.o |
| 10:04.14 | znf | sb, anyway, surprisingly, Win8 doesn't bother me that much... yet. Start8 is not bad. Classic Shell is horrible! |
| 10:04.36 | sb | i dont need any of them :P just plain win8 menu |
| 10:04.39 | sb | nevcairiel: http://direkt.jacob-computer.de/_artnr_1537330.html?ref=103 wtf is this? |
| 10:08.01 | Megalon | lookes like an online shop to me |
| 10:09.41 | sb | 4770k available on monday? |
| 10:11.27 | Fisker | zero fucks sb |
| 10:11.36 | Fisker | and no release is tueday |
| 10:11.39 | Fisker | tuesday* |
| 10:11.50 | Megalon | thuehuehuesday |
| 10:12.11 | Kalroth | heuhuahuehua |
| 10:12.45 | sb | Fisker: go buy then |
| 10:13.38 | Repo | squire2: 03Stanzilla 07master * v1.3.11-2-g66ce275 Config.lua: [+1 commit] woops, had that backwards. |
| 10:13.46 | znf | sb, are you a masochist? |
| 10:14.54 | sb | why? |
| 10:17.50 | Megalon | not masochist, znf, sb just still enjoys it when all the fun is long gone |
| 10:25.54 | bluspacecow | how many fucks fisker ? |
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| 10:33.32 | sb | znf: oh, you are taling about win8 metro menu? |
| 10:33.51 | znf | y |
| 10:34.17 | sb | no, its fine - put your important things there and if you want to use something else, just start typing - why do you need a "clasic" start menu? |
| 10:34.42 | sb | <win> + vlc + <return> *shrug* |
| 10:37.33 | sb | oh, new gmail |
| 10:37.50 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:37.58 | quiescens | what is new about it? |
| 10:38.39 | sb | tabbed labels basically |
| 10:46.27 | Stanzilla | I really want the new android app |
| 10:46.55 | Fisker | hey sb |
| 10:47.01 | Fisker | win + windows upda..oh wait |
| 10:48.55 | quiescens | shrug |
| 10:49.03 | quiescens | is it really really responsive |
| 10:49.09 | Stanzilla | that works Fisker |
| 10:49.24 | quiescens | like can you actually do win, vlc, enter at full typing speed |
| 10:49.50 | Stanzilla | yes quiescens |
| 10:51.07 | quiescens | i vaguely remember the windows 7 thing that was vaguely like that except you could type the name of something and it would take ages to populate, especially under load |
| 10:51.35 | Stanzilla | yeah load kinda fucks that up |
| 10:52.15 | quiescens | but the regular menu still populates at a reasonable speed |
| 10:52.16 | Kalroth | you have to have SmartWINDOWS, SpeedCacheService and ScansYourHddEvery15FuckingMinutesService running for that |
| 10:52.45 | quiescens | shrug |
| 10:53.03 | quiescens | i figure it couldn't be too hard to keep just the stuff in the "start menu" as it were |
| 10:53.34 | quiescens | i mean you could keep the whole thing in a couple kilobytes of memory surely~! |
| 10:54.34 | quiescens | entire start menu on disk is probably less than 100kb |
| 10:56.18 | Stanzilla | quiescens: nah, 300k+ |
| 10:56.19 | Stanzilla | b |
| 10:56.31 | quiescens | instead of seemingly walking the entire tree every time someone tries run something |
| 10:57.15 | quiescens | shrug |
| 10:57.25 | quiescens | on disk it probably contains stuff you don't really need |
| 10:59.55 | Kalroth | you shrug a lot |
| 11:00.03 | Kalroth | maybe you should lower your usage of microsoft products |
| 11:00.11 | Fisker | no it doesn't Stanzilla |
| 11:00.18 | Stanzilla | what do you want now |
| 11:00.29 | Fisker | [12:49:09] <Stanzilla> that works Fisker |
| 11:00.49 | Stanzilla | works for me |
| 11:00.51 | Stanzilla | stop being bad |
| 11:00.54 | Fisker | no it doesn't |
| 11:01.01 | Kalroth | fisker bad |
| 11:01.03 | quiescens | my laptop and any servers are linux~! |
| 11:01.05 | Stanzilla | I Just did it |
| 11:01.06 | Stanzilla | so there |
| 11:01.13 | quiescens | but i still use windows for games ): |
| 11:01.13 | Kalroth | Fisker: ubad? |
| 11:01.31 | Kalroth | quiescens: windows7 is fine for that though! |
| 11:01.50 | quiescens | that's what i'm using~! |
| 11:02.04 | Kalroth | oh |
| 11:02.06 | Kalroth | shrug |
| 11:02.15 | Stanzilla | what's with the tilding, quiescens |
| 11:02.27 | Kalroth | kawaiiiiii~~ |
| 11:02.28 | quiescens | they were just talking about stuff and I got to wondering why it takes so long rereading the start menu sometimes |
| 11:03.43 | quiescens | o.o |
| 11:03.49 | quiescens | blames stanzilla |
| 11:04.33 | Stanzilla | I might explode soon |
| 11:04.37 | Stanzilla | just ate 2 pizzas |
| 11:04.45 | quiescens | feeds stan a cookie |
| 11:07.31 | Stanzilla | om nom |
| 11:07.35 | Stanzilla | windows 8 core app updates |
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| 11:11.52 | Fisker | want me to video record it Stanzilla ? |
| 11:11.55 | Fisker | because you can't |
| 11:12.29 | znf | Stanzilla, how many times can I install Start8 with a single license? :D |
| 11:13.01 | Stanzilla | dunno, I have it on 2 pcs currently |
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| 11:27.54 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/CLHoKJh.png btw Stanzilla |
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| 11:35.43 | Megalon | :( |
| 11:37.05 | quiescens | gives megalon a cookie |
| 11:41.29 | Stanzilla | Fisker: oh, I was using the startmenu |
| 11:41.38 | Stanzilla | like the start8 one |
| 11:46.08 | Megalon | hooray 4 quiescens |
| 11:47.13 | Megalon | (>'_')>o |
| 11:47.17 | Megalon | (>'o'<) |
| 11:47.21 | Megalon | (>'-'<) |
| 11:47.23 | Megalon | (>^-^<) |
| 11:54.59 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude * r637 (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 11:54.59 | Repo | Don't bother passing the event to our handlers as we never use it. |
| 11:59.11 | Repo | comergy-redux: 03robfaie * r18 (4 files in 3 directories): (7 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 11:59.11 | Repo | Demonic Fury fixes: |
| 11:59.11 | Repo | * Options implemented |
| 11:59.11 | Repo | * Bars no longer persist after a spec change |
| 11:59.11 | Repo | * Bars are in the right place for vertical bars |
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| 12:10.32 | Stanzilla | sb: dat musik in your horridon video |
| 12:12.12 | Funkeh` | angry german music? |
| 12:13.23 | Megalon | Funkeh`, german is not angry, SAUERKRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAUT |
| 12:13.28 | sb | Stanzilla: i know, its great :D |
| 12:17.10 | Stanzilla | sb: horrible |
| 12:17.25 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: no english but angry and screaming only |
| 12:18.45 | Funkeh` | link? |
| 12:18.47 | sb | oh you have no idea whats "screaming only" :D |
| 12:19.56 | sb | Funkeh`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgDTG4364wM |
| 12:21.33 | Megalon | oh, throatcancer music |
| 12:22.45 | Funkeh` | fuck yeah |
| 12:22.49 | Funkeh` | recount and skada |
| 12:22.54 | Funkeh` | make sure we got no mistakes |
| 12:22.58 | sb | right :D |
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| 12:27.21 | Funkeh` | sb, is that minimap icon not being gobled up by sexymap or are you perm showing it |
| 12:30.13 | Funkeh` | dramatic end music for a non-last boss :s |
| 12:31.19 | Stanzilla | sb is a drama queen |
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| 12:33.36 | sb | Funkeh`: sexymap doesnt show it as option |
| 12:33.42 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: do you like that kind of music? |
| 12:33.48 | sb | didnt notice tbh :D |
| 12:34.10 | Funkeh` | what addon is it |
| 12:34.31 | sb | MinimapButtonBag |
| 12:36.43 | Stanzilla | only 2:30 pm |
| 12:36.48 | Stanzilla | and already the second vodafone call |
| 12:36.52 | sb | nice |
| 12:37.00 | Stanzilla | wonder how often I do have to tell them to remove me from that list |
| 12:48.34 | Megalon | SILENTIUM! |
| 12:54.18 | silentium | what's up? |
| 12:54.29 | Megalon | mhm :< |
| 12:54.35 | sb | lol |
| 12:55.20 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude * r638 modules/Gear.lua: |
| 12:55.20 | Repo | Gear: my attempt at missing gem scanning without tooltip scanning. |
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| 12:59.36 | znf | http://foxnomad.com/2012/03/15/why-is-the-internet-in-romania-so-damn-fast/ |
| 13:03.07 | Stanzilla | so I'm online in WoW for like 5 hours now |
| 13:03.21 | Stanzilla | and my ticket gets answered with the text that hey could not reach me online |
| 13:03.22 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 13:03.44 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude * r639 modules/Gear.lua: |
| 13:03.44 | Repo | Gear: remove debug prints & cleanup. Need to check if smithies have EMPTY_SOCKET_GEM entries added to the GetItemStats return values for items they place sockets in (belt bucket doesn't) |
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| 13:07.04 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: the gear module is disabled atm, right? |
| 13:07.13 | Funkeh` | yup |
| 13:07.17 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 13:08.47 | Funkeh` | do you have a smithie Stanzilla |
| 13:08.59 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 13:11.14 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.17 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, |
| 13:11.42 | Funkeh` | assuming you have added a socket to your wrist |
| 13:13.36 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: no prints |
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| 13:14.26 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 13:14.32 | Funkeh` | what else can you add sockets to again? |
| 13:14.36 | Stanzilla | hands |
| 13:14.46 | Funkeh` | have you added one on your hands? |
| 13:14.57 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 13:15.06 | Funkeh` | try /script local t=GetItemStats(GetInventoryItemLink("player",10)) for k in next, t do if k:find("SOCKET") then print(k) end end |
| 13:15.27 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 13:15.28 | Fisker | hey Funkeh` |
| 13:15.38 | Fisker | not so hey sb |
| 13:16.01 | sb | what is it this time? |
| 13:16.03 | Funkeh` | hey Fisker |
| 13:16.35 | Fisker | nothing sb |
| 13:16.39 | Fisker | hence not heying you |
| 13:16.48 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: EMPTY_SOCKET_RED |
| 13:16.48 | Stanzilla | EMPTY_SOCKET_BLUE |
| 13:17.15 | Funkeh` | and I guess the BS added a 3rd socket |
| 13:17.27 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 13:17.35 | Stanzilla | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zirkel-des-cenarius/Maiel/simple |
| 13:17.38 | Stanzilla | if you want to see the items |
| 13:17.38 | Fisker | i liked how i was 200 revisions behind someone Funkeh` |
| 13:18.02 | Funkeh` | I didn't think it's been 200 since I added that message |
| 13:18.19 | Funkeh` | were you actually? |
| 13:19.04 | Fisker | nope |
| 13:19.06 | Fisker | i'm on alpha |
| 13:19.46 | Funkeh` | svn or actual alpha |
| 13:20.09 | Fisker | whatever curse considers alpha |
| 13:20.15 | Fisker | i.e. 10955 |
| 13:21.56 | Funkeh` | Fisker, did you also get a "your alpha version of bw is out of date" chat print |
| 13:22.13 | Fisker | i don't recall actually :( |
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| 13:23.26 | Funkeh` | in an LFR or a raid? |
| 13:23.45 | Fisker | LFR |
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| 13:24.41 | Funkeh` | I think some addon might be sending some stupidly high version as an attempt to harvest BW users rather than using a version of 0 like they should |
| 13:25.21 | Fisker | i can make them disappear |
| 13:25.55 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: need some more prints? |
| 13:26.15 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, no, that confirms that BS sockets don't add to the stats list |
| 13:26.20 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 13:26.23 | Funkeh` | Ill add an extra if statement for that |
| 13:27.55 | Funkeh` | Fisker, next time you see that please do a /bwv |
| 13:28.06 | Funkeh` | screenshot if it's actually higher than yours |
| 13:28.09 | Fisker | ok |
| 13:28.12 | Fisker | i'm gonna fuck him |
| 13:28.18 | Fisker | murder him plenty |
| 13:28.26 | Fisker | and not in that order |
| 13:28.49 | Fisker | maybe i'll do a bit of fucking, a bit of murdering, then a bit of fucking again |
| 13:28.50 | Fisker | and so on |
| 13:29.03 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 13:29.11 | Fisker | Chrome on Windows 8 is blurry on Surface Pro :( |
| 13:29.19 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 13:29.29 | Fisker | fixitfixitfixit |
| 13:29.43 | Fisker | oh |
| 13:29.47 | Fisker | only been a bug since release |
| 13:29.52 | sb | you got surface pro? |
| 13:30.10 | Funkeh` | oh Stanzilla /dump IsSpellKnown(2018) |
| 13:30.17 | Funkeh` | should be true for blacksmithing |
| 13:30.32 | Stanzilla | is false though |
| 13:30.54 | Stanzilla | the profession IDs are not the spell ids sadly |
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| 13:32.50 | Funkeh` | uhm |
| 13:33.38 | Funkeh` | !API IsTradeSkillKnown |
| 13:35.27 | znf | Fisker, hardware bug. |
| 13:35.35 | znf | that's what you get for having shitty hardware! :D |
| 13:37.28 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: 110396 is true know |
| 13:37.30 | Stanzilla | *though |
| 13:38.19 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, /dump GetSpellInfo((GetSpellInfo(2018))) |
| 13:38.57 | Stanzilla | Dump: value=GetSpellInfo((GetSpellInfo(2018))) |
| 13:38.57 | Stanzilla | [1]="Blacksmithing", |
| 13:38.57 | Stanzilla | [2]="", |
| 13:38.57 | Stanzilla | [3]="Interface\\Icons\\Trade_BlackSmithing", |
| 13:38.58 | Stanzilla | [4]=0, |
| 13:38.59 | Stanzilla | [5]=false, |
| 13:39.00 | Stanzilla | [6]=0, |
| 13:39.01 | Stanzilla | [7]=0, |
| 13:39.02 | Stanzilla | [8]=0, |
| 13:39.03 | Stanzilla | [9]=0 |
| 13:39.10 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.15 | bluspacecow | spamzilla |
| 13:39.22 | Funkeh` | cool |
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| 13:40.54 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude * r640 modules/Gear.lua: Gear: support for blacksmith sockets |
| 13:42.40 | Stanzilla | what did you use now? |
| 13:43.34 | Funkeh` | what I just gave you |
| 13:43.49 | Sintacks | how come my /dump doesn't look like that |
| 13:43.56 | Sintacks | it did for abit, but then it went back the other way |
| 13:43.56 | bluspacecow | hear that stan |
| 13:43.59 | bluspacecow | he used you |
| 13:44.01 | bluspacecow | for your body :P |
| 13:44.23 | Funkeh` | using a name for GetSpellInfo only returns a value if you know the spell |
| 13:44.36 | Sintacks | 44:09|"Soldier Harness", "", "Interface\\Icons\\Trade_Engineering", 0, false, 0, 0, 0, 100 |
| 13:44.39 | Stanzilla | Sintacks: do you use prat or something with ace2? |
| 13:44.52 | Sintacks | i use prat, yes |
| 13:44.54 | Stanzilla | I think those still change dump |
| 13:44.56 | Stanzilla | yeah that thten |
| 13:45.04 | Sintacks | but i had prat when it was once doing it the way yours is :| |
| 13:45.21 | Stanzilla | maybe it was broken :D |
| 13:45.25 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:47.14 | Sintacks | facking 9% hit and 9% exp. anything with hit or exp, reforged to something else. dafuq blizzard |
| 13:48.11 | Funkeh` | got the +hit shadow pan trinket? |
| 13:48.16 | Sintacks | nope |
| 13:48.23 | Funkeh` | ow |
| 13:49.00 | Sintacks | H TF Bad Juju and H TF Renataki's (which has 1887 exp on it (reforged into haste for 1133 exp still on it) which is 3.33% exp by itself |
| 13:49.11 | Sintacks | i forgot a ) |
| 13:49.47 | Sintacks | I do have some agi hit gems, but the blues are worth matching and i would rather match with agi hit than agi stam |
| 13:49.51 | Sintacks | cuz fuck stam |
| 13:49.57 | Sintacks | over hit cap is worth more than health |
| 13:50.13 | Sintacks | but that exp over cap.. useless unless i need to be in front of a boss |
| 13:50.50 | Sintacks | i do have some LFR boots that are actually an upgrade from some T14 boots with exp on them, but i wanted to wait until the rest of the week's clear before i gemmed/enchanted them |
| 13:50.54 | Sintacks | so that'll help my exp a bit |
| 13:51.05 | Sintacks | 1% to be exact |
| 13:51.20 | Sintacks | so that'll still be 7.99% exp. which isn't as bad at 8.99% |
| 13:51.37 | Sintacks | i just don't get why they put so much hit and exp on all the gear this tier |
| 13:51.50 | Sintacks | it's almost like they were intending on rasiing the requirements for caps but ended up not doing so |
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| 13:55.08 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude * r641 modules/Gear.lua: Gear: Support Enchanting (finger 1 & 2 becomes enchantable) |
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| 14:02.00 | Repo | ora3: 03funkydude * r642 modules/Gear.lua: Gear: cleanups |
| 14:03.31 | znf | Funkeh`, this might be far fetched - but is there any way to make bigwigs answer to some ora checks, like latency, durability etc.? |
| 14:03.47 | znf | so I can see people's durability and latency and stuff like that without them having to install ora? |
| 14:03.56 | Stanzilla | stopping pulltimers when people have red items :o |
| 14:04.03 | Funkeh` | you're a funny guy |
| 14:04.16 | znf | Stanzilla, actually that would be kind of nice :D |
| 14:04.30 | znf | but would be nice to see people's durability and shit like that without making them install ora :-/ |
| 14:04.32 | Stanzilla | yah |
| 14:04.48 | Stanzilla | that wont happen znf |
| 14:04.52 | znf | bad Funkeh` :( |
| 14:05.00 | Stanzilla | no |
| 14:05.02 | Stanzilla | that is called scope |
| 14:05.03 | znf | bad Stanzilla |
| 14:05.04 | znf | :( |
| 14:05.08 | Stanzilla | fuck you |
| 14:05.08 | znf | bad scope :( |
| 14:06.23 | Repo | reforgelite: 03iroared * r91 (6 files in 1 directory): 1.26 |
| 14:06.34 | Repo | reforgelite: 03iroared 04v1.26 * r92 : Tagging as v1.26 |
| 14:09.57 | Stanzilla | loving his changelogs |
| 14:10.37 | Stanzilla | s/change/commit/ |
| 14:10.47 | Repo | reforgelite: 03iroared * r93 Scaling.lua: 1.26 |
| 14:11.00 | Stanzilla | ... |
| 14:11.19 | Repo | reforgelite: 03iroared * r94 (4 files in 1 directory): 1.27 |
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| 14:11.24 | Repo | reforgelite: 03iroared 04v1.27 * r95 : Tagging as v1.27 |
| 14:11.25 | Stanzilla | SERIOUSLY |
| 14:11.46 | quiescens | ? |
| 14:12.27 | quiescens | pats stan |
| 14:12.28 | quiescens | there there |
| 14:13.14 | znf | ninja commits to 1.28 |
| 14:14.52 | znf | Stanzilla, how the f* do I tell Win8 to stop announcing me about my printer being low on toner every time I print? >_< |
| 14:15.05 | Stanzilla | settings? |
| 14:18.02 | znf | it does this stupid notification in the top-right corner black on white |
| 14:18.03 | nevcairiel | znf: easy, refill toner |
| 14:18.07 | quiescens | lol |
| 14:18.09 | quiescens | i was about to type that |
| 14:18.15 | znf | nevcairiel, I don't have a budget for that! |
| 14:18.17 | quiescens | gives nevcairiel a cookie |
| 14:18.24 | nevcairiel | munches |
| 14:18.57 | znf | I have black toner, but I'm missing CMY ones, and those are 227€/color :( |
| 14:25.36 | sb | 227 eur? you can get a new printer for 227 eur :o |
| 14:27.05 | quiescens | or two! |
| 14:27.17 | znf | tell me about it... |
| 14:27.33 | znf | I can't figure out why the old management bought such a fuckin' expensive printer |
| 14:27.49 | znf | a fuckin' color printer for office stuff where 99.99% of the documents are black & white :-/ |
| 14:31.58 | quiescens | use two different printers imo |
| 14:32.22 | quiescens | black and white printer that has particularly cheap toner costs |
| 14:32.23 | sb | we have 1 color and ~15 b/w |
| 14:34.27 | quiescens | ones that have an option for high capacity toner cartridge thingy |
| 14:44.04 | sb | Stanzilla: wer wird duemmer? |
| 14:44.24 | Stanzilla | sb: alle glaubich |
| 14:45.21 | sb | nice |
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| 14:59.00 | znf | quiescens, I would have normally done that |
| 14:59.36 | znf | except we've got the hotel after the previous management company was basically fired |
| 15:00.06 | znf | and all they've done the last years brought the hotel to its knees with huge debts |
| 15:01.49 | znf | so now we have to keep costs as low as possible, sell alot and sell high to have the ANAF (fiscal agency) debt covered so we can actually touch the money we charge the clients :-/ |
| 15:01.54 | znf | we're in deep shit, basically :D |
| 15:02.08 | znf | So no, I don't have a budget for a new printer |
| 15:06.04 | MysticalOS | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9164976759#5, did blizzard make a mistake in their UI code again? |
| 15:06.54 | znf | quiescens, or, rather - I can't justify a new printer if this one is working "fine" at the moment. |
| 15:07.43 | Stanzilla | I love how Bluspacecow just posts random bullshit there, MysticalOS :D |
| 15:08.22 | znf | uhm, that is really random |
| 15:08.53 | MysticalOS | guess he's assuming it's a lag thing with objects not loaded yet so they are nil? no idea his line of thinking. far as i know this lua error is a ui error on blizzards part since i think everyone is getting it, or at least all mac users |
| 15:09.09 | nevcairiel | i suppose its possible that the API returns a vehicle type thats not in VEHICLE_TEXTURES |
| 15:09.54 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt really call it a error in the UI code as such, a missing check maybe |
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| 15:24.49 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: do I enable the internal audio switcher in mpc? |
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| 15:26.18 | nevcairiel | its enabled by default, why would you disable it? |
| 15:26.25 | Stanzilla | dunno |
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| 15:55.46 | Megalon | because a tweak guide said so! |
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| 16:26.20 | Fisker | no znf |
| 16:26.23 | Fisker | it's not a hardware bug |
| 16:27.04 | Repo | libtourist-3-0: 03Odica * r161 (2 files in 1 directory): - Updated TOC to 50300 |
| 16:27.04 | Repo | - Added Deepwind Gorge |
| 16:27.04 | Repo | - Added The Tiger's Peak |
| 16:29.04 | Repo | libtourist-3-0: 03odica 04WoW-5.3-beta1 * r162 : Tagging as WoW-5.3-beta1 |
| 16:29.49 | Fisker | Funkeh` |
| 16:30.03 | Fisker | can you change the "Complaint Registered" when reporting spam to "Complaint Discarded"? |
| 16:30.11 | Fisker | :3 |
| 16:31.15 | znf | uhm |
| 16:31.24 | znf | Windows 8, 2 identical monitors, one connected on DVI, one on VGA |
| 16:31.33 | znf | I have different colors on them :-( |
| 16:31.48 | Fisker | yes znf |
| 16:31.58 | Fisker | vga sucks |
| 16:32.02 | znf | yes it does :( |
| 16:32.30 | znf | though I did get a "new" PC from the club that has 2xDVI |
| 16:32.32 | znf | so I should be good |
| 16:32.57 | Funkeh` | Fisker, /script COMPLAINT_ADDED = "Complaint Discarded" |
| 16:33.11 | znf | oh, iz global |
| 16:33.45 | Funkeh` | it's Blizzard's print |
| 16:34.08 | znf | I figured :P |
| 16:34.30 | znf | uhm, this dual start menu thingie is weird in Win8 |
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| 16:39.48 | Fisker | so |
| 16:39.51 | Fisker | i need tier 15 |
| 16:39.57 | Fisker | prot spec has less loot than ret |
| 16:40.02 | Fisker | should i change loot spec? :p |
| 16:40.05 | Fisker | with big P |
| 16:40.09 | Fisker | dumb keyboard |
| 16:40.57 | znf | you wish you had a big penis |
| 16:43.37 | kadrahil | so i just resubscribed last night after taking more than a year away from wow :/ |
| 16:44.50 | Funkeh` | you sounds delighted |
| 16:44.56 | kadrahil | it's weird |
| 16:45.22 | nevcairiel | i never unsubed since release |
| 16:45.29 | kadrahil | heh |
| 16:45.33 | nevcairiel | but i havent played seriously for years now |
| 16:45.46 | kadrahil | i unsubbed a couple of times for a month or so back in burning crusade |
| 16:45.48 | znf | 12What can we help you with, kadrahil? |
| 16:45.56 | nevcairiel | usually i play a month or two after an expansion |
| 16:45.59 | kadrahil | nothing in particular. just blabbing |
| 16:46.04 | nevcairiel | to level up and see new zones |
| 16:46.06 | znf | removes blue text |
| 16:46.08 | nevcairiel | then the boring grind starts |
| 16:46.10 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:46.13 | Gnarfoz | removes znf |
| 16:46.25 | kadrahil | i used to idle in here a long time ago |
| 16:46.40 | Stanzilla | Starting from Intel® ME 9.0, Intel will release one version only of Intel® ME |
| 16:46.41 | Stanzilla | software, which will be used for all generations of ME firmware from Intel® |
| 16:46.41 | Stanzilla | ME 8.0 onwards. (This applies to all Intel® ME software - e.g., LMS, |
| 16:46.41 | Stanzilla | IMSS, etc.- and the installer.) This will simplify maintenance, manufacturing |
| 16:46.41 | Stanzilla | and IT administration. |
| 16:46.42 | Stanzilla | fucking finally |
| 16:46.54 | znf | what's ME? |
| 16:47.02 | Gnarfoz | shitty acronym |
| 16:47.05 | Stanzilla | management engine |
| 16:47.11 | znf | that management thingie that I still have no idea what is used for? |
| 16:47.12 | Gnarfoz | no idea why their crap has to have shit names |
| 16:47.15 | znf | ok, what does it do, btw? |
| 16:47.20 | Gnarfoz | should just call it "drivers" |
| 16:47.22 | znf | my mobo has it, no idea what to do with it |
| 16:47.23 | Stanzilla | google.com |
| 16:47.29 | nevcairiel | its some control services that talk to the bios |
| 16:48.02 | znf | so what nifty things can you do with them? |
| 16:48.11 | nevcairiel | nothing, its just a driver |
| 16:48.20 | znf | shitty, then |
| 16:48.42 | nevcairiel | windows doesnt work 100% if you dont install them =p |
| 16:49.04 | nevcairiel | especially these new features like quick boot and some standby related things need it |
| 16:49.06 | kadrahil | i kept having my display drivers crash and recover ingame last night. took a while to figure out |
| 16:49.07 | Stanzilla | why are you beyond dumb again znf |
| 16:49.14 | Stanzilla | this seems to be an issue lately |
| 16:49.20 | Stanzilla | sb: that's what I was talking about btw |
| 16:49.29 | znf | Stanzilla, how about you stop being an ass lately? seems to be a recurring issue... |
| 16:49.32 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: znf has always been rather dumb |
| 16:49.40 | nevcairiel | and complains about everything |
| 16:49.51 | Stanzilla | znf: 18:48:00 ∙ nevcairiel: nothing, its just a driver |
| 16:49.53 | Stanzilla | 18:48:09 ∙ znf: shitty, then |
| 16:49.56 | Stanzilla | what kind of reaction is that :D |
| 16:50.01 | znf | I have it on my mobo, no idea what is used for, as Intel didn't provide a driver for Win7 for it, so it's never installed |
| 16:50.13 | znf | (at least for my mobo there's no driver for Win7) |
| 16:50.33 | nevcairiel | there is win7 drivers, either from intel directly, or any good mobo manufacturer also offers them :p |
| 16:50.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 16:50.42 | Gnarfoz | I have them installed :P |
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| 16:51.15 | nevcairiel | for the silly folk, mobo manufacturers usually mirror all the intel drivers on their own site, pack it with some ugly install wizard or something |
| 16:51.26 | nevcairiel | any smart person just visits the chipset makers website for drivers |
| 16:51.51 | znf | nevcairiel, my mobo is intel... for example they don't provide sound drivers for Win7, only Vista, and they're buggy under Win7 |
| 16:52.13 | nevcairiel | maybe your mobo is 100 years old? :P |
| 16:52.28 | nevcairiel | sound is probably a realtek chip anyway, go there |
| 16:52.42 | znf | the default one installed by Win7 doesn't allow both outputs to be used in the same time (front/headphones, and back), and the audio chipset manufacturer doesn't provide a driver for it :-/ |
| 16:52.47 | znf | nah, it's IDT or some stuff like that |
| 16:53.36 | nevcairiel | thats actually a feature that microsoft generally broke in win7, using multiple outputs properly at the same time |
| 16:53.48 | nevcairiel | (from the same audio card) |
| 16:54.11 | znf | the realtek chips I tested on worked fine though under Win7 |
| 16:54.29 | znf | (with the realtek supplied driver, ofc) |
| 16:54.49 | nevcairiel | i havent used my onboard sound in ages anyway |
| 16:55.00 | znf | But this driver the Intel supplies for Vista likes to randomly break and it starts confusing outputs :D |
| 16:55.20 | znf | Biggest reason I bought USB headphones |
| 16:55.58 | nevcairiel | i bought usb headphones because the chea onboard audio thingys always had so much interference on the mic from the other components in the system, they cba to put shielding around it |
| 16:56.03 | nevcairiel | cheap* |
| 16:56.11 | znf | and I just have my display speakers connected to the onboard sound which I rarely use anyway |
| 16:56.15 | znf | yeah, that was the 2nd reason :D |
| 16:56.40 | znf | I can hear my cpu "grinding" on the onboard soundcard :D |
| 16:57.13 | nevcairiel | its the worst if you use the front audio, because the cables go unshielded through the case |
| 16:57.27 | kadrahil | i have that problem on mine with the front audio ports |
| 16:57.35 | kadrahil | constant whirring sound |
| 16:57.56 | nevcairiel | use usb headset or at least the back audio |
| 16:58.02 | kadrahil | yeah, that's my solution |
| 16:59.38 | znf | I still get weird noises trough the back on mine, though |
| 16:59.47 | nevcairiel | sure, but far less |
| 17:00.43 | nevcairiel | at least thats hwo it usually goes |
| 17:00.56 | znf | Oh god... I hate people who beg for discounts when asking for hotel rates |
| 17:01.06 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 17:01.38 | znf | I mean, really, you're going to a 4* Hotel, if you can't afford the rates asked... go to a 3*? :-/ |
| 17:01.43 | znf | quiescens, no, I'm pissed |
| 17:02.06 | Repo | bad-boy: 03funkydude * r1160 (2 files in 1 directory): anti-spam update |
| 17:02.22 | znf | I even gave him a 10% discount, without him asking, for being an older client |
| 17:03.55 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/taviso/status/340509784782540800/photo/1 |
| 17:03.58 | Stanzilla | good timed |
| 17:04.00 | Stanzilla | s |
| 17:04.42 | Stanzilla | also how do you close that twitter image view |
| 17:05.20 | Fisker | i got zero loot Stanzilla |
| 17:05.30 | Stanzilla | sad story Fisker |
| 17:06.25 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: click on "Details" or the "xy min ago" |
| 17:06.30 | Gnarfoz | (I guess) |
| 17:06.31 | znf | Impressive |
| 17:07.20 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: ah thanks |
| 17:07.25 | Stanzilla | was hammering ESC in rage |
| 17:07.27 | Stanzilla | bad UX |
| 17:07.38 | Gnarfoz | yeah, pretty bad |
| 17:07.45 | kadrahil | gif or it didn't happen |
| 17:10.15 | kadrahil | killed it |
| 17:12.09 | kadrahil | back to spicy chips and dubstep |
| 17:12.45 | znf | ow, I'm hungry :-( |
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| 17:21.45 | Stanzilla | I really ned to replace bagnon |
| 17:21.47 | Stanzilla | tainting like shit |
| 17:22.33 | znf | AdiBags |
| 17:22.38 | Stanzilla | no |
| 17:22.39 | Stanzilla | that sucks |
| 17:22.42 | znf | iz awesome |
| 17:22.46 | Fisker | yay |
| 17:22.47 | Fisker | got shit loot |
| 17:23.29 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 17:23.31 | Fisker | we got swindled |
| 17:23.40 | Fisker | nexus 4 orders get free bumpers now |
| 17:23.41 | znf | cool, I managed to crash Thunderbird |
| 17:24.12 | Fisker | would've been cooler to manage not crashing it |
| 17:24.27 | znf | first time I crashed it, tbh :P |
| 17:24.57 | Fisker | so you used it for 5 minutes? |
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| 17:28.57 | znf | Fisker, so negative... |
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| 17:37.18 | Fisker | zero negativity znf |
| 17:42.25 | Torhal | 0 - znf == ??? |
| 17:49.02 | Megalon | -0? |
| 17:51.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:51.24 | quiescens | -0 < 0 ? |
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| 17:56.55 | oscarucb | 1 + 1 == 3, for very large values of 1 |
| 17:57.19 | kadrahil | heh |
| 18:04.25 | oscarucb | wow I didn't realize lua was lexically ambiguous |
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| 18:05.05 | oscarucb | just got my first "ambiguous syntax" error |
| 18:05.47 | oscarucb | I guess semicolons are still useful for something |
| 18:14.58 | nevcairiel | only if you write really odd code |
| 18:15.02 | nevcairiel | like haste does sometimes |
| 18:15.27 | oscarucb | well I certainly wasn't trying to break the parser, its not that weird |
| 18:15.30 | nevcairiel | only case i know from the top of my head is when you use function calls without the () |
| 18:15.36 | nevcairiel | like, print "test" |
| 18:15.48 | nevcairiel | that can trip it up in certain combinations |
| 18:16.15 | oscarucb | the one i hit was an ambiguity between function call and new statement |
| 18:16.18 | oscarucb | local foo = print |
| 18:16.18 | oscarucb | (print or print)("hi") |
| 18:16.26 | oscarucb | that code produces an error |
| 18:16.34 | kadrahil | not sure if print or print() |
| 18:16.36 | nevcairiel | that is odd code :P |
| 18:16.45 | oscarucb | it's not THAT odd |
| 18:17.08 | nevcairiel | i'm sure you didnt mean to write print or print, using the same var is just weird |
| 18:17.24 | oscarucb | yea actually it also happens with this |
| 18:17.25 | oscarucb | local foo = print |
| 18:17.25 | oscarucb | (print)("hi") |
| 18:17.48 | oscarucb | I'm just using print as an example, thats not the actual function I was calling |
| 18:18.17 | nevcairiel | but yeah, it doesnt know if you meant local foo = print(print) |
| 18:18.33 | oscarucb | yea I know why it's ambiguous, just think it odd they allowed that |
| 18:19.55 | oscarucb | so a parenthesized expression to calculate a function to call can break the previous statement |
| 18:20.31 | nevcairiel | at least it tells you instead of doing something unpredictable |
| 18:21.38 | nevcairiel | ..and there is a easy fix :) |
| 18:25.13 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 18:26.33 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
| 18:28.05 | nevcairiel | why cant mobo people release full tech specs of their boards already so that one can plan what to buy |
| 18:28.16 | nevcairiel | probably silly intel nda |
| 18:31.19 | Stanzilla | fix me nevcairiel |
| 18:31.20 | Stanzilla | 11x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Bartender4" tried to call the protected function "OverrideActionBarButton1:Show()" |
| 18:31.33 | nevcairiel | stop using stupid addons like WA |
| 18:31.49 | Stanzilla | the flash function is diasabled :p |
| 18:31.56 | nevcairiel | besides, bartender doesnt call that :P |
| 18:32.00 | nevcairiel | so its lying! |
| 18:33.20 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 18:33.23 | Stanzilla | I hate this taint crap |
| 18:33.31 | Stanzilla | an no, not the error messages |
| 18:33.36 | Stanzilla | more that randomly stuff breaks |
| 18:33.44 | Stanzilla | like atm I can't click flasks from my inventory |
| 18:33.46 | Stanzilla | like wtf |
| 18:33.55 | oscarucb | yea its a really crappy solution to a difficult problem |
| 18:34.51 | nevcairiel | it was a bit better when it was still newer and the devs still used caution |
| 18:35.07 | nevcairiel | now they dont seem to care to try to avoid tainty coding style |
| 18:35.36 | Stanzilla | because nobody knows what taints what and why |
| 18:35.39 | oscarucb | well to be fair to the devs its a pretty fragile framework |
| 18:35.45 | Stanzilla | apart from a few special cases |
| 18:36.36 | nevcairiel | i dont even know why bartender gets blamed, it doesnt even use the central actionbutton stuff anymore, LibActionButton is completely self-contained |
| 18:36.59 | nevcairiel | probably some weirdo interference somewhere |
| 18:37.15 | nevcairiel | a chain of addons somehow triggering it |
| 18:37.36 | Stanzilla | and no way to find out why and how and bla |
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| 18:53.16 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r10956 Loader.lua: bump DBM faker |
| 18:55.51 | Stanzilla | https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/youtube-smart-pause/ |
| 18:55.54 | Stanzilla | I want that for chrome |
| 19:01.59 | Gnarfoz | I want something for Chrome that makes yt videos not start at maximum volume EVERY time |
| 19:02.24 | Gnarfoz | (also, something that fixes Chrome logging me out of EVERYTHING all the time, after something like a day or so) |
| 19:02.45 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-options/bdokagampppgbnjfdlkfpphniapiiifn?hl=en |
| 19:05.57 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: have it, doesn't do anything about it. |
| 19:06.22 | Stanzilla | you're bugged then |
| 19:06.28 | Stanzilla | also youtube NEVER logs me out |
| 19:06.29 | Gnarfoz | (its volume control options just don't work, Chrome overrides it, apparently) |
| 19:06.36 | Gnarfoz | that wasn't about youtube |
| 19:06.43 | Stanzilla | are you using the html5 crap or flash? |
| 19:06.47 | Gnarfoz | actually, that's a good point, I'm rarely logged out of google services |
| 19:06.53 | Gnarfoz | both, same thing |
| 19:06.58 | Stanzilla | weird |
| 19:07.06 | Gnarfoz | but I'm constantly logged out of imgur, forums, whatever |
| 19:07.11 | Gnarfoz | firefox never does it |
| 19:07.39 | Gnarfoz | either firefox doesn't care about cookie lifetimes, or Chrome is being unnecessarily hardass about it |
| 19:07.52 | Gnarfoz | either way, I've got several "yeah, me too"'s from people about both issues |
| 19:07.56 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: YTO has a volume setting now, worked for me |
| 19:08.05 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: didn't I just say it doesn't help :( |
| 19:08.17 | durcyn | you think i read that? |
| 19:08.21 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 19:08.23 | durcyn | when was the last time you tried it |
| 19:08.29 | Gnarfoz | it's on! |
| 19:08.34 | Gnarfoz | it just doesn't do anything :D |
| 19:08.37 | durcyn | because i went off on the same rant as you just yesterday |
| 19:09.01 | Gnarfoz | I'll try it just now, for randomness' sake |
| 19:09.02 | durcyn | every yt video starting at 100% volume in chrome, set yto to 4 and it at least overides |
| 19:10.07 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb * r3 core.lua: add some post-combat stats |
| 19:10.07 | Repo | fix settings |
| 19:10.12 | Gnarfoz | fun |
| 19:10.17 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 19:10.18 | Gnarfoz | I just get a black box right now |
| 19:10.19 | Gnarfoz | no video |
| 19:10.25 | Gnarfoz | (and audio blaring at maximum :D) |
| 19:10.28 | quiescens | turn up the brightness |
| 19:10.34 | Gnarfoz | maybe I should stop using -dev |
| 19:10.40 | quiescens | is your monitor on? |
| 19:10.53 | Gnarfoz | also Stanzilla, it's the Flash player at the moment (html5 still kind of sucks) |
| 19:11.35 | durcyn | i can't get the fucking site to keep my html5 cookie |
| 19:12.14 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
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| 19:12.50 | Gnarfoz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTYvksPdkZg ty yt for recommending this to me \o/ |
| 19:15.22 | Stanzilla | damn |
| 19:15.31 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: do you like her? |
| 19:15.54 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 19:16.17 | Gnarfoz | her non-Raab album is pretty ok |
| 19:16.41 | Gnarfoz | also, she's from my home town ;-) |
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| 19:27.05 | sb | WTF IS THIS SHIT |
| 19:27.16 | sb | no boobies also |
| 19:28.12 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb * r4 (5 files in 2 directories): fix library embeds |
| 19:38.10 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb * r5 core.lua: min level check |
| 19:38.26 | Repo | ascendancetimer: 03oscarucb 041.0 * r6 : Tagging as 1.0 |
| 19:42.19 | oscarucb | Need a wowace admin to push new project approvals plz |
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| 19:55.52 | oscarucb | ty |
| 20:13.14 | Funkeh` | np |
| 20:27.53 | Stanzilla | nice try Funkeh` |
| 20:29.40 | Stanzilla | sb znf which offset piece to we use |
| 20:30.20 | sb | chest for me |
| 20:30.45 | Stanzilla | why only for you |
| 20:30.49 | sb | see http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/khazgoroth/smb/advanced |
| 20:30.57 | sb | no idea if there are other alternatives |
| 20:30.58 | Stanzilla | that was a BiS question |
| 20:30.59 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:31.02 | sb | oh |
| 20:31.08 | nevcairiel | didnt you quit raiding |
| 20:31.12 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:31.17 | Repo | ka_raid-tracker: 03celess * r373 RaidTracker.lua: - testing |
| 20:31.17 | nevcairiel | then no BiS for you |
| 20:31.20 | Stanzilla | now I do alt raids twice a week |
| 20:31.25 | sb | still chest |
| 20:31.38 | sb | twin consorts thunderforged heroic :p |
| 20:31.48 | Stanzilla | so basilcy I can get normal mode BiS gear |
| 20:31.48 | Stanzilla | ! |
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| 20:34.36 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, must have click it at the same time as you |
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| 20:44.18 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 20:51.21 | Fisker | why does she sound like a man Gnarfoz ? |
| 20:51.39 | Fisker | is it because she's just as attractive as one? |
| 20:51.57 | Gnarfoz | yeah, something like that |
| 20:52.19 | Fisker | and whats with the fake tattoos? |
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| 21:17.14 | Gnarfoz | no idea, she's a fan of that club, but her real tattoos are VFX'd away in the video (left arm) |
| 21:29.41 | Torhal | sells Fisker on a street corner in Serbia. |
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| 21:34.35 | znf | Stanzilla, I chose chest, too |
| 21:34.49 | Stanzilla | k |
| 21:34.51 | znf | Tier gloves aren't great either, but they're better than the chest |
| 21:34.52 | Stanzilla | lei shen trinket btw |
| 21:34.53 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 21:34.56 | znf | yup, quite nice |
| 21:35.00 | znf | really increases the skill cap |
| 21:35.08 | Stanzilla | just upgraded it, too |
| 21:35.25 | znf | It's really crazy if you go full haste build |
| 21:35.32 | znf | though sometimes it pisses the shit out of you |
| 21:35.37 | Stanzilla | I do |
| 21:35.55 | sb | still running with VP trinket + LoC HC :| |
| 21:35.56 | sb | suckers |
| 21:36.04 | sb | no luck with loots |
| 21:36.18 | znf | it's annoying when you sometimes rely on it to proc on pull |
| 21:36.29 | Stanzilla | I traded elegon hc for lei shen |
| 21:36.30 | znf | and it procs after all your other procs expire :( |
| 21:37.17 | oscarucb | yea RPPM is the second worst Blizzard design idea this expansion imo |
| 21:37.39 | znf | I don't think ICD would have worked well with this trinket (the 100% crit one) |
| 21:38.07 | oscarucb | all trinkets should be on-use imo |
| 21:38.28 | Stanzilla | I hate use trinkets |
| 21:38.31 | znf | same |
| 21:38.41 | sb | use sucks, RRPM is fine |
| 21:38.46 | sb | stack haste, more procs, win |
| 21:39.00 | Stanzilla | I was very happy with normal trinkets though |
| 21:39.01 | znf | sb, it's annoying when RPPM doesn't proc on pull |
| 21:39.05 | oscarucb | on-use makes it feasible to line up multiple cds |
| 21:39.26 | oscarucb | and you can approximate a proc trinket behavior given on-use using macros |
| 21:39.27 | znf | no, on-use is "macro to all buttons" |
| 21:39.34 | oscarucb | but you can't go back the other way |
| 21:39.50 | znf | for example my Engineering gloves are macro'd to DP / MB |
| 21:39.59 | oscarucb | "macro to all buttons" is the casual technique, not the optimal technique |
| 21:40.01 | znf | also, as an engineer, fuck on-use trinkets |
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| 21:42.03 | oscarucb | on use makes it reasonably feasible to use your trinkets and other cds optimally, at the cost of lowering the performance of casuals who ignore it. RPPM makes it nearly impossible to use your trinkets and other cds optimally, while making casuals slightly "less bad" |
| 21:43.06 | znf | Using a on-use trinket triggers 12s CD on my Engineering gloves |
| 21:43.11 | oscarucb | and I'm not referring to shared cds with things like engineering, just the mechanics of a trinket that pops when the PLAYER wants it to proc, instead of the game |
| 21:43.51 | znf | I don't agree |
| 21:44.19 | oscarucb | the engineering tinkers should just be fixed to not share a cd |
| 21:44.46 | znf | it's that way by design... they don't want you to stack those with on-use trinkets |
| 21:45.34 | oscarucb | .. a design decision which is driven primarily by pvp |
| 21:46.03 | oscarucb | and applied inconsistently. Other prof CDs like Lifeblood have no such restriction. |
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| 21:46.23 | znf | one may argue that it's a dps loss to wait for other procs to line up... |
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| 21:46.46 | Stanzilla | lol dat duration |
| 21:46.48 | Stanzilla | of that trinket |
| 21:46.50 | Stanzilla | is a huge joke |
| 21:46.51 | Xuerian | Then one can activate it the instant it's up? |
| 21:46.55 | Stanzilla | reaction time fucks me over |
| 21:46.57 | sb | Stanzilla: 1 SWP |
| 21:47.05 | sb | and try to get 1 VT in |
| 21:47.06 | znf | Stanzilla, you have time for 3 spells :P |
| 21:47.08 | znf | use it wisely :D |
| 21:47.09 | Torhal | halves Stanzilla's duration. |
| 21:47.39 | oscarucb | on-use gives the player the OPTION to plan his CDs in the manner he believes is optimal. RPPM takes away control and removes the ability to make that decision |
| 21:48.19 | znf | oscarucb, yes, but if you delay the on-use too much, you basically lose the value of the trinket |
| 21:48.33 | oscarucb | right, so a good player plans his cds accordingly |
| 21:48.39 | oscarucb | which is where skill comes in |
| 21:48.44 | oscarucb | skill > randomness |
| 21:48.47 | znf | oscarucb, spriests have no cooldowns. |
| 21:48.51 | Repo | ka_raid-tracker: 03celess * r375 (21 files in 2 directories): - prep for localization push |
| 21:48.52 | znf | Stanzilla, VT, SWP and one MF |
| 21:48.54 | oscarucb | lies |
| 21:48.59 | Caleb| | a good player plans his abilities according to the RPPM procs |
| 21:49.00 | oscarucb | you at least have jade spirit |
| 21:49.20 | znf | which is RPPM, too... |
| 21:49.34 | oscarucb | you can't do anything to "line up" multiple abilities that are all on RPPM |
| 21:49.46 | oscarucb | they either line up or they dont and there's nothign you can do about it |
| 21:49.57 | znf | anyway, like I said, fuck on-use trinkets |
| 21:50.04 | znf | one extra button to push, I have enough, kthxbye |
| 21:50.12 | oscarucb | yea well fuck rppm and lazy casuals |
| 21:50.54 | Repo | ka_raid-tracker: 03celess 042.4.29 * r376 : - release |
| 21:50.54 | znf | ULVS is so much fun when it aligns with everything |
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| 21:51.34 | sb | yup, 220% haste <3 |
| 21:52.11 | znf | I really hated the haste proc of that trinket |
| 21:52.39 | sb | i think haste also hates you |
| 21:52.55 | znf | his fault for picking up that nickname :D |
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| 21:55.11 | znf | oscarucb, anyway, my point is that trinkets like UVLS don't benefit lazy/casuals at all, the reaction time is too short |
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| 22:06.24 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 22:06.36 | Stanzilla | guess i'll cancel my account again soon |
| 22:07.59 | sb | why? |
| 22:08.06 | Stanzilla | not having fun |
| 22:08.20 | Stanzilla | guild is full of idiots |
| 22:08.31 | Stanzilla | raidleader hates me etc |
| 22:09.44 | Stanzilla | today he totally freaked out because he called dps stop on horridon at 50% |
| 22:09.47 | Stanzilla | and I was like, nope |
| 22:10.14 | Stanzilla | still killed adds first continued dps on boss |
| 22:10.24 | Stanzilla | because I knew nothing would happen until 35% anyway |
| 22:10.40 | Stanzilla | then he freaked out because he saw me "Mind flay" |
| 22:10.41 | Stanzilla | uhh |
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| 22:20.04 | Gnarfoz | so you have a problem with authority? :P |
| 22:22.49 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:22.51 | Stanzilla | and idiots |
| 22:23.38 | Stanzilla | probably does not sound like it now but that guy is wrong most of the time and keeps hating on everyone in the raid |
| 22:24.05 | Stanzilla | and over the years I've built up so much hate that I just can't cope anymore |
| 22:24.54 | sb | nice |
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| 22:33.38 | Stanzilla | like once I got kicked out of the raid because I said his tactic was bad. |
| 22:33.53 | Stanzilla | I quote: I am the raidleader, what I say is correct and you don't question me |
| 22:33.54 | Stanzilla | ok bro |
| 22:34.04 | Stanzilla | after 4hours of wiping they switched tactics |
| 22:34.09 | Stanzilla | to the one I suggested |
| 22:35.06 | Stanzilla | anyway, too much history with that guy and some other dicks, and I don't want to change guilds so all I can do is achievements and pet battles |
| 22:36.42 | sb | change guild then :p |
| 22:36.52 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 22:36.59 | Stanzilla | not paying for 10 transfers |
| 22:37.08 | Stanzilla | or even one |
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| 22:49.03 | Xuerian | Wildstar soon anyway. |
| 22:49.49 | sb | no idea what this is going to be :D |
| 22:52.00 | Xuerian | Looks to be basically wow-themed trinity MMO with GW2 dodging and a lot more aimed AOE stuff, along with housing and guild battles and stuff. |
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| 23:35.36 | sb | Stanzilla: which ati card would you buy at the moment? |
| 23:40.07 | nebula169 | why ati? |
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| 23:43.07 | Torhal | Xuerian: Wildstar also is putting insane focus on AddOns. |
| 23:43.23 | Torhal | That's something no other MMO that's trying to compete with WoW has done yet. |
| 23:43.27 | Xuerian | _sweet_ |
| 23:43.31 | Torhal | Rift did it as an afterthought. |
| 23:43.32 | Xuerian | I hadn't heard anything about addons |
| 23:43.45 | Torhal | It's Lua, and not the hodgepodge mess of globals. |
| 23:43.56 | Torhal | They even have a tool to make the frames. |
| 23:43.57 | Xuerian | Well, upside, better to make addons for |
| 23:44.03 | Torhal | So you'll be using XML, but it's visual. |
| 23:44.04 | Xuerian | Downside, sounds like they've got most of it covered already |
| 23:44.46 | Xuerian | But that's encouraging. |
| 23:44.47 | Torhal | The tool also has a code editor with syntax highlighting and soon to have something IntelliSense-like. |
| 23:44.52 | Xuerian | O_o |
| 23:45.08 | Xuerian | Well, so long as they don't bone the game somehow looks like I know what I'm playing. |
| 23:46.07 | nebula169 | well, it is ncsoft >.> |
| 23:46.20 | Torhal | Sign up for the beta. You get Houston (the AddOn tool) with it if you get in. |
| 23:46.28 | Torhal | NCSoft is the publisher. |
| 23:46.36 | Torhal | Carbine is the developer. |
| 23:46.39 | Xuerian | I've been in beta since it _first_ was available for signups =\ |
| 23:46.43 | Torhal | :/ |
| 23:46.48 | Xuerian | errrr |
| 23:46.50 | Xuerian | Registered for |
| 23:47.15 | haste | how's the API and language? |
| 23:47.30 | Xuerian | I've been waiting patiently to get in as they release more and more awesome info. |
| 23:47.35 | Xuerian | I hate hype anymore, but fffs, hype |
| 23:48.28 | Torhal | haste: API is well-structured, and it's Lua. |
| 23:48.35 | Torhal | They have "libraries" |
| 23:48.39 | haste | :o |
| 23:48.45 | Torhal | You use require to pull 'em in. |
| 23:49.04 | haste | that doesn't really mean much |
| 23:49.10 | haste | unless they all run in a separate environment |
| 23:49.24 | Torhal | I believe they are, but not entirely sure. |
| 23:50.11 | Torhal | Built-in named timers and such as well. No hackery like we use with WoW. |
| 23:50.24 | haste | animation timers! :D |
