| 00:03.41 | Stanzilla | 3x Bazooka\Bazooka-v2.2.7.lua:1409: UIParent:GetChildren(): Stack overflow |
| 00:03.43 | Stanzilla | [C]: in function `GetChildren' |
| 00:03.45 | Stanzilla | dafuq |
| 00:04.53 | Stanzilla | also the answer is nope |
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| 00:11.00 | nebula169 | should try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86276370/RaidFrameRoleIcons.zip and see if that works |
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| 00:11.33 | nebula169 | is basically what i put in ora |
| 00:25.15 | Stanzilla | nice zip in a zip with another addon too |
| 00:25.16 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 00:25.21 | nebula169 | lol |
| 00:25.23 | nebula169 | i just noticed that |
| 00:27.16 | Stanzilla | that works btw |
| 00:27.46 | nebula169 | then the ora module should |
| 00:27.54 | nebula169 | thats awkward |
| 00:27.56 | Stanzilla | should have put the icon between the level and the class btw |
| 00:28.18 | nebula169 | what funky said, but i didn't like it clipping warlock and death knight |
| 00:28.40 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 00:34.36 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r710 modules/RoleIcons.lua: |
| 00:34.36 | Repo | RoleIcons: register ADDON_LOADED earlier to avoid having to check for RaidUI already being loaded |
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| 00:46.05 | nebula169 | yeeea, i don't like it on the right, have to make the icon smaller and just looks awkward imo, same with next to the name, just has to be tiny http://i.imgur.com/OafOmI3.jpg |
| 00:47.36 | Funkeh` | probably bad if you're leader, a tank, and main assist |
| 00:47.48 | nebula169 | yea, mt and ma use the same slot |
| 00:48.10 | nebula169 | so that little gap would always be there |
| 00:48.11 | Funkeh` | you can be both so I don't see why |
| 00:49.08 | nebula169 | looks like you can only be one now? when i promote to ma it takes away mt and vis versa |
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| 04:18.11 | Stanzilla | Congratulations! You've been selected to participate in the Diablo III: Reaper of Souls Friends & Family beta test. |
| 04:18.12 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 04:21.13 | nebula169 | oh yea? gief |
| 04:21.19 | Stanzilla | nope. mine |
| 04:21.23 | Stanzilla | so pumped for this game |
| 04:21.26 | nebula169 | D; |
| 04:21.40 | nebula169 | you "bond" with Gnarfoz's gay friend? |
| 04:21.49 | Torhal | wonders how Stanzilla became the Seeper of Rolls. |
| 04:22.03 | Stanzilla | I'm the sipper of tolls |
| 04:22.31 | nebula169 | tipper of stalls? |
| 04:22.51 | Stanzilla | bah :D |
| 04:23.00 | Stanzilla | according to my twitter feed many people got in today |
| 04:24.09 | Torhal | hires Stanzilla as a hitman for Amarande. |
| 04:24.36 | Stanzilla | that would be a fun job |
| 04:25.40 | Stanzilla | and if windows would stop changing my input language |
| 04:25.42 | Stanzilla | that would be nice |
| 04:26.45 | MysticalOS | do what I did. build like a 4500 super PC, then run OS X on it. haha |
| 04:27.33 | MysticalOS | and then complain about being unable to commit to svn because apples drivers don't support GK110B kepler boards yet. So applications with openCL crash |
| 04:27.36 | MysticalOS | :) |
| 04:27.42 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 04:27.44 | Stanzilla | owned |
| 04:28.42 | Torhal | Hackintosh! |
| 04:28.46 | MysticalOS | still trying to stabilize OC, passes stress tests 100x over, but randomly kabooms while idle. sigh |
| 04:28.49 | Stanzilla | I always wanted to do that |
| 04:29.07 | Stanzilla | but could not be arsed to figure out the layout for my SSD for it |
| 04:29.10 | Stanzilla | with partitions and shit |
| 04:29.24 | MysticalOS | i just put two top of line SSDs in |
| 04:29.28 | MysticalOS | one for OS X, one for windows |
| 04:29.43 | Stanzilla | looks like DBM is paying off now? :D |
| 04:29.50 | MysticalOS | i have been saving up |
| 04:29.52 | MysticalOS | for like 3 years |
| 04:29.57 | MysticalOS | enduring raids with sub 10fps |
| 04:30.12 | Stanzilla | that's fun as a tank |
| 04:30.13 | MysticalOS | waiting for apple to release a new mac pro that was worth a shit |
| 04:30.15 | Stanzilla | I have experience |
| 04:30.20 | MysticalOS | and then they make a trashcan instead.... |
| 04:30.52 | MysticalOS | it's actually easier as a tank than as a dps to raid with shit fps |
| 04:31.11 | MysticalOS | you get away with standing in more shit. and having lower damage |
| 04:31.12 | MysticalOS | :) |
| 04:31.40 | MysticalOS | i always yelled at dps on heroic lei shen that wiped cause they couldn't move out of something |
| 04:31.54 | MysticalOS | I'd be like "I move out of shit at 8fps, STOP BEING BAD" |
| 04:33.50 | Stanzilla | >D |
| 04:33.55 | Stanzilla | IT DID IT AGAIN |
| 04:33.55 | Stanzilla | wtf |
| 04:33.58 | Stanzilla | yyy |
| 04:36.23 | MysticalOS | arg this KP is frustrating me. hackintosh have a huge issue with kernel panic diagnosis. the log gets dumped to nvram |
| 04:36.30 | MysticalOS | (hackintosh don't have nvram) |
| 04:36.39 | MysticalOS | so there isn't a log, ever |
| 04:44.40 | Torhal | The problem with Hackintosh is you pretty much have to use close-to-identical hardware since Apple's drivers are so damn specific. Usually means outdated hardware since their stuff is hardly ever top-of-the-line. |
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| 05:58.14 | Stanzilla | interesting http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22635-1.0.0.html |
| 06:02.07 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 06:45.54 | nevcairiel | i have pressed ALT for ever to use the history |
| 06:46.08 | Stanzilla | I never |
| 06:48.06 | nebula169 | same |
| 06:48.13 | nebula169 | until 5.3 or whatever broke it |
| 06:49.22 | nevcairiel | still works for me today |
| 06:49.55 | nebula169 | i mean addons turning off requiring alt, you have to use alt now |
| 06:50.01 | nevcairiel | ah |
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| 06:56.06 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0-beta-10-1-gaefb95f Rules.lua: [+1 commit] Refactored raid buff detection. |
| 06:56.56 | Stanzilla | maybe kagaro has some time to put the "fix" into chatter |
| 06:57.05 | Stanzilla | but he's very busy these days |
| 07:04.15 | Stanzilla | 4GB remaining... |
| 07:04.20 | Stanzilla | wtb better internet |
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| 07:13.41 | quiescens | what is you downloading stan? |
| 07:22.48 | Stanzilla | diablo |
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| 07:59.23 | Stanzilla | levelling speed is awesome, lvl 13 already |
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| 08:13.13 | Stanzilla | yay first legendary |
| 08:15.18 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 08:18.53 | sb | morning |
| 08:19.01 | sb | Stanzilla: giev :( |
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| 08:19.12 | Stanzilla | hi sb |
| 08:19.24 | Stanzilla | can't touch my legendaries |
| 08:20.07 | sb | and nice CrappyChatFix - annyoing as hell |
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| 08:23.50 | sb | wonder if i should get http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B0IGOHY @ work |
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| 08:31.00 | Repo | gridstatusrole: 03greltok * r68 (3 files in 1 directory): Now uses assigned roles while talent info is unknown. |
| 08:33.08 | Repo | gridstatusrole: 03greltok 041.7 * r69 : Tagging as 1.7 |
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| 08:41.59 | znf | remember that addon someone told me about? Angry Assignments? |
| 08:42.02 | znf | How the f* does it work? |
| 08:42.23 | znf | ooooh, wait |
| 08:42.28 | znf | fails on LibCompress |
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| 09:11.06 | sb | ohhh |
| 09:11.13 | sb | CM11 nightly builds coming up soon \o/ |
| 09:12.15 | znf | cool |
| 09:23.59 | haste | want |
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| 09:50.17 | Megalon | :O |
| 09:53.29 | Aiue | Hum. |
| 09:53.54 | Aiue | The contents of my emacs windows are getting displaced when I shift focus to them since changing keyboard. o.o |
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| 11:34.35 | Stanzilla | diablo is using 1,7gb ram atm |
| 11:34.36 | Stanzilla | not bad |
| 11:37.59 | Timmeh | Stanzilla: imagine having 2 diablos in Heroes of the Storm! |
| 11:38.06 | Timmeh | 3.4GB ram, just gone! |
| 11:39.06 | Stanzilla | :E |
| 11:43.25 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 11:43.40 | Stanzilla | hey |
| 11:44.10 | Fisker | do you even lift? |
| 11:44.38 | Stanzilla | no |
| 11:48.43 | EthanCentaurai | what does that even mean? |
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| 12:18.41 | wink | http://www.haskell.org/hoogle/?hoogle=liftM2 |
| 12:29.52 | Aiue | I suppose it's a question regarding the aerodynamical capacities of the person? |
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| 12:42.39 | znf | EthanCentaurai, http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-even-lift |
| 13:26.50 | miica | do you even wow? |
| 13:42.22 | Megalon | has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
| 13:47.45 | Torhal | confiscates Megalon's fingers. |
| 13:48.08 | znf | wat |
| 13:48.36 | haste | breaks Megalon's keyboard. |
| 13:49.08 | Torhal | He can always get another keyboard. |
| 13:49.20 | haste | you already took his fingers |
| 13:49.22 | Torhal | Fingers, now...that's more expensive both financially and in time. |
| 13:49.24 | Megalon | and another set of fingers |
| 13:49.59 | Torhal | Good call though. haste - knowing him, he's type it without fingers. |
| 13:50.08 | Torhal | s/he's/he'd/ |
| 13:50.19 | haste | you can come a long way with toes and nose |
| 13:50.40 | Megalon | i type with another long and pointy thing though |
| 13:51.19 | Timmeh | is it a pen, held in your mouth? |
| 13:51.31 | znf | geez, why is the keyboard I want 40GBP? :-/ |
| 13:51.39 | sb | or held somewhere else? |
| 13:51.41 | Timmeh | znf: just take Megalon's, haste has it. |
| 13:51.42 | sb | znf: which one? |
| 13:51.46 | znf | v |
| 13:51.48 | znf | http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Wireless-Elite-Keyboard-v2/dp/B005HNHRA6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385473868&sr=8-1&keywords=hp+wireless+keyboard+v2 |
| 13:52.13 | sb | whats this v2 |
| 13:52.22 | sb | doesnt even wxist |
| 13:52.26 | Megalon | when v1 gets cheaper because old |
| 13:52.26 | sb | exist |
| 13:52.32 | Megalon | they release the same as v2 but with a higher price |
| 13:52.34 | znf | I have v1 |
| 13:52.45 | sb | better get a real keyboard!? |
| 13:52.56 | znf | I love this keyboard |
| 13:53.03 | Megalon | will you marry it? |
| 13:53.10 | sb | get cherry MXes :o |
| 13:53.13 | znf | but it's almost 3 years old, so I don't think it will hold |
| 13:53.20 | znf | fuck off you keyboard hippies with your shit mechanical keyboards |
| 13:53.47 | sb | or logitech illuminated wireless (was on amazon cyber monday) |
| 13:53.51 | znf | ew |
| 13:54.43 | sb | oh - its up at the moment, 60 eur :o |
| 13:58.47 | Megalon | :O |
| 13:59.18 | znf | I wonder if I order from UK, do I get a UK layout keyboard? :-/ |
| 13:59.21 | znf | or do I get US? |
| 13:59.22 | Aiue | I need a new keyboard, emacs has been acting weird ever since I got this one. |
| 13:59.49 | Aiue | "Hello, let's randomly displace the contents of this window!" |
| 13:59.50 | znf | sb, this is the v1 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-FQ480AA-ABU-Wireless-Keyboard-Blank/dp/B003JBHH7G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_computers_1 |
| 13:59.55 | znf | which I have now |
| 14:00.21 | znf | had to order it from the US back then, shipping cost me more than the keyboard itself :-/ |
| 14:00.30 | Aiue | Or if the window is not maximised - "Hello, let's hide the contents of this window!" |
| 14:02.33 | Aiue | Ah well, time to be late for a lecture. >.> |
| 14:17.21 | miica | wireless elite kayboard O,o |
| 14:17.36 | miica | lol not real elite keyboard some HP shit |
| 14:17.46 | miica | http://elitekeyboards.com <3 |
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| 14:19.01 | miica | i am happy owner of happy hacking :P |
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| 14:28.11 | Timmeh | I'd get one if my company were to sponsor me one :-P |
| 14:28.35 | znf | really, mechanical keyboards look so uncomfortable :-/ |
| 14:29.04 | nevcairiel | i'm weird and like having a german keyboard layout, which makes getting some of the mechanical keyboards a bit tricky |
| 14:29.25 | znf | so you type qwertz? :o |
| 14:29.37 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 14:29.42 | znf | weirdo |
| 14:30.24 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.41 | Timmeh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.03 | Timmeh | well, in the mechanical keyboards, there's just a lot of variety in switches |
| 14:31.07 | Kalroth | dont listen to them, nev, i think you're sehr Gut |
| 14:31.17 | Timmeh | that's not really there for the scissor-switch ones |
| 14:31.23 | Timmeh | or at least, not as far as I've found :-P |
| 14:31.31 | nevcairiel | i suppose i could always decide to switch to US layout |
| 14:31.38 | wink | noppoo choc mini/midi - cheap, awesome mechanical keyboard |
| 14:31.39 | znf | I like laptop-keyboard-style keys |
| 14:31.40 | wink | I've had 3 |
| 14:31.50 | Kalroth | cherry mx or gtfo |
| 14:31.58 | wink | I have mx black on all 3 |
| 14:32.11 | znf | I don't get what the difference between all those mechanical switches is |
| 14:32.12 | haste | brown on two keyboards here |
| 14:32.13 | Timmeh | I don't mind either, but if I had to choose, after getting used to my cherry MX brows, I really like those |
| 14:32.14 | Kalroth | black? is that the super noisy one? |
| 14:32.18 | Timmeh | browns* |
| 14:32.20 | Kalroth | i got mx brown, yeah |
| 14:32.23 | wink | nah, it's ok :D |
| 14:32.28 | znf | to me, all mechanical keyboards are noisy :P |
| 14:32.36 | wink | SHUT UP ZNF! |
| 14:32.39 | haste | Timmeh: same experience kinda, went from blue to brown |
| 14:32.44 | Kalroth | mx brown is the 'quiet' one, i think - mx blue is similar |
| 14:32.47 | Timmeh | it depends on whether you bottom them out |
| 14:32.51 | Timmeh | except for blue, blue is always noisy :-P |
| 14:33.02 | wink | I like loud caps and I cannot lie |
| 14:33.06 | znf | keyboard hippies :P |
| 14:33.07 | nebula169 | blue and red are noisy |
| 14:33.08 | Kalroth | mx black is the one with a built in jackhammer |
| 14:33.11 | nebula169 | black and brown less so |
| 14:33.13 | wink | pf |
| 14:33.20 | nevcairiel | i got brown right now |
| 14:33.28 | wink | it's not much louder than the non-mechanical amazon thingy some colleagues have |
| 14:33.28 | Kalroth | oh, i might be mixing black and red up |
| 14:33.34 | Timmeh | znf: if you're used to the scissor-switch ones, you're used to the amount of force not really mattering, you get past the threshold and it bottoms out |
| 14:33.39 | nebula169 | yea, red is super loud |
| 14:33.40 | wink | mac stuff is less noisy indeed |
| 14:33.47 | Timmeh | with the mechanical ones, that's not necessarily the case |
| 14:34.05 | znf | Timmeh, why would it matter? I don't get it |
| 14:34.09 | nevcairiel | it was a day/night thing when i got my first mechanical keyboard |
| 14:34.14 | nebula169 | i use browns, too, with spacers to chill out the sound |
| 14:34.15 | Timmeh | you said the mechanical ones are always noisy for you |
| 14:34.17 | nevcairiel | not so much for gaming, but typing |
| 14:34.24 | Timmeh | if you press-to-the-bottom, they'll all be noisy :-P |
| 14:34.24 | znf | I can do 110-120 WPM on my keyboard |
| 14:34.29 | Timmeh | so I was guessing that's what you do :-P |
| 14:34.39 | Timmeh | on mechanical ones, I mean |
| 14:34.46 | Kalroth | I can do 11-12 LPM on my keyboard |
| 14:35.09 | znf | who measures in lines? o.O |
| 14:35.17 | Kalroth | letters* |
| 14:35.22 | znf | ... |
| 14:35.27 | Timmeh | znf: that's Love Letters per minute |
| 14:35.28 | nevcairiel | thats nothing, i can do 5-6 NPM |
| 14:35.31 | nevcairiel | novels per minute! |
| 14:35.54 | znf | anyway, I'm trying to understand the hype for mechanical keyboards, and I can't, for the love of $deity |
| 14:35.59 | Kalroth | i can prove P versus NP on my keyboard! |
| 14:36.12 | znf | I tried one of those IBM mechanical keyboards, the old ones who seem to be praised in the community |
| 14:36.24 | Kalroth | the old school IBM clickers are great |
| 14:36.31 | znf | Seemed so annoying to type on |
| 14:36.34 | nevcairiel | although those are indeed quite noisy |
| 14:36.34 | nebula169 | non-mechanical keyboards just feel like mush now |
| 14:36.41 | Kalroth | yeah, they're very noisy |
| 14:37.13 | nevcairiel | for me mechanical keyboards are about precision, i like to feel the pressure point |
| 14:37.18 | Timmeh | I actually use a scissor-switch one at work and a Cherry MX Brown one at home, I'm not very much biased either way, but like I said, I do prefer the Cherry MX Brown one, after I got used to it. it did take a while before I started liking it at all :-P |
| 14:37.19 | nevcairiel | non mechanical just dont give you that |
| 14:37.25 | sb | should get brown then - as soon as someone makes a rbg mx keyboard (individual keys or zones like steelseries apex) |
| 14:38.10 | nevcairiel | i can also type on the chicklet keys on my laptop, but it just feels iffy |
| 14:38.38 | znf | it actually feels slow for me to type on anything else than chiclet keyboards |
| 14:40.47 | znf | they should make self-cleaning keyboards :( |
| 14:45.04 | sb | you know, thats easy, just dont eat in front of your computer :D |
| 14:45.49 | Timmeh | or have a specific "eating keyboard" :-P |
| 14:46.21 | znf | sb, but... my friends are in the computer :( |
| 14:54.42 | Repo | adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.6.12-beta-1-8-g1c7c7ec (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added SyLevel support to the ItemLevel plugin. |
| 14:54.56 | znf | oh |
| 14:55.01 | znf | 10€ for MoP |
| 14:56.24 | znf | and 7.5€ for battlechest |
| 14:56.24 | znf | cheap |
| 14:56.31 | Timmeh | orly? hmm |
| 14:56.42 | Timmeh | maybe time to get my RAF mount then |
| 14:56.57 | znf | https://eu.battle.net/shop/en/product/world-of-warcraft |
| 14:57.37 | Timmeh | it says 5 EUR for me :-P or is that not the battlechest? |
| 14:57.49 | sb | yup, 5eur |
| 14:57.58 | znf | uhm, I have the price in GBP :P |
| 14:58.08 | Timmeh | it's 5 GBP as well? :-P |
| 14:58.12 | znf | 4 :D |
| 14:58.14 | Timmeh | ah |
| 14:58.15 | Adirelle[work] | about keyboard, is anyone using one of the ergonomic keyboard described there : http://xahlee.info/kbd/Truly_Ergonomic_keyboard.html ? |
| 14:58.43 | mitch0 | looks awful |
| 14:58.46 | Adirelle[work] | wait, this isn't the right link |
| 14:59.02 | znf | that's a wrong keyboard |
| 14:59.08 | znf | truly wrong keyboard |
| 14:59.49 | Adirelle[work] | here it is : http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergonomic_keyboards.html |
| 15:00.17 | Timmeh | Adirelle[work]: yes, the first one we have here at the office, the MS Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 |
| 15:00.44 | znf | all those wavy keyboards seem so terible :-/ |
| 15:00.48 | mitch0 | not really sure it's worth the bother |
| 15:00.48 | Timmeh | I kinda like it, but after using it I always have trouble on an other keyboard for the first 10 minutes :-P |
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| 15:00.50 | mitch0 | too bulky |
| 15:00.58 | znf | also that TypeMatrix is horrible |
| 15:01.00 | mitch0 | but at least this one is not as borked as the first one you showed |
| 15:01.41 | mitch0 | the TypeMatrix is truly bad |
| 15:01.43 | nebula169 | i've used http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm they're pretty awesome |
| 15:01.50 | Adirelle[work] | the guy there seems to have used some of the keyboards he's reviewed |
| 15:03.27 | Adirelle[work] | these keyboards seems to cost an arm because of the mechanical switchs, I wouldn't buy one without being sure it's at least acceptable |
| 15:04.28 | Timmeh | the spacebar problem he describes is very true, about the MS 4000 one |
| 15:04.31 | Adirelle[work] | (not speaking that if I bought one, I probably had to buy my wife a tablet so she hadn't to use the computer and its keyboard from hell...) |
| 15:04.35 | znf | good thing I have no money in my account, I'd be buying at least 1 wow account... |
| 15:04.38 | Timmeh | you have to press it in a specific way even, or it's very hard to press at all |
| 15:05.21 | Timmeh | except in the exact middle of the spacebar, there it works fine |
| 15:05.38 | Timmeh | (I totally just walked over to the PC with that keyboard attached to try that) |
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| 15:06.06 | Adirelle[work] | ^^ |
| 15:09.25 | Repo | adibuttonauras: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0-beta-10-7-g9e03aec Rules.lua: [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 15:09.25 | Repo | 9e03aec: Salvaged LibDispellable, that has been lost during the refactoring. |
| 15:09.25 | Repo | bb0be98: Monk: show Chi on generators and 3-Chi spenders. |
| 15:09.25 | Repo | 5377952: All classes: only watch our own raid buff spells. |
| 15:09.25 | Repo | ef1341c: All classes: use LibPlayerSpells list of dispels. |
| 15:09.44 | znf | that Logitech Gaming Software sucks |
| 15:09.52 | znf | I should go back to the previous mouse software :-/ |
| 15:10.00 | znf | this one doesn't even tell me when the battery is low :( |
| 15:10.15 | Timmeh | znf: I hate you |
| 15:10.21 | znf | ?! |
| 15:10.26 | Timmeh | you just made me really want to buy that WoW + MoP |
| 15:10.29 | znf | go go |
| 15:10.34 | znf | want a raf invite? :D |
| 15:10.44 | Timmeh | I'd invite myself, thankyouverymuch :-P |
| 15:10.49 | znf | meh! :( |
| 15:10.57 | znf | cheap mount, 5€ for a gryphoon :D |
| 15:11.08 | Stanzilla | + 60 days gametime |
| 15:11.10 | Stanzilla | don't forget that |
| 15:11.37 | Timmeh | you do get 30 days free on the other account for that, right? or isn't it like that anymore? |
| 15:12.36 | znf | nope |
| 15:12.38 | znf | just mount |
| 15:12.53 | Timmeh | oh |
| 15:12.54 | znf | or, rather, 1 raf item credit |
| 15:14.24 | Timmeh | ah |
| 15:14.36 | Timmeh | https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/recruit-a-friend |
| 15:14.48 | Timmeh | ^ I figured you'd get both the 30-day benefit and the 60-day benefit |
| 15:14.49 | Timmeh | boo! |
| 15:17.01 | Timmeh | znf: you sure you only get 1 of the 2? >_> |
| 15:17.51 | znf | oh wait |
| 15:17.53 | znf | you're right |
| 15:17.57 | znf | sorry, completely forgot |
| 15:18.05 | znf | I was thinking SoR for a moment |
| 15:18.05 | miica | dont do that your friend |
| 15:18.17 | miica | true friend dont use friend recruit |
| 15:18.50 | znf | ofc they do! |
| 15:19.19 | Timmeh | well, a colleague came to tell me earlier he reactivated his WoW account after about a year! |
| 15:19.27 | Timmeh | my first answer "oh, I could've sent you a scroll of resurrection" |
| 15:19.31 | miica | if your friend was capable get rid of wow you should not push him to position where he would start again |
| 15:20.38 | znf | they should turn SoR credit into RaF credit :( |
| 15:20.42 | znf | I have 2 unclaimed SoR mounts |
| 15:20.48 | Timmeh | miica: u jelly? |
| 15:20.57 | Timmeh | znf: :O |
| 15:22.02 | Timmeh | can one transfer characters between accounts? and if so, how expensive is that? >_> |
| 15:22.29 | miica | Timmeh: jelly? for what? :D |
| 15:22.41 | znf | Timmeh, only if the accounts are under the same name |
| 15:23.14 | Timmeh | I could buy 5 EUR WoW + 60 days gametime, get 30 days free on my other account, level a character on the new account, grant levels to old account, transfer character from new account to old account, and be happy? |
| 15:23.29 | znf | yes? |
| 15:23.41 | znf | I don't know why you would do that, but yes |
| 15:24.23 | Timmeh | cause then I can let the other account run out again, and I have the RaF mount + alt leveled + granted levels on an alt for 5 EUR + whatever 60 days game time costs |
| 15:24.37 | miica | Timmeh: how about getting life? |
| 15:25.29 | miica | Timmeh: it also got quite nice benefits: sex,friends,parties and having fun :o |
| 15:26.11 | Timmeh | miica: can you stop trying to be funny? you're failing, and you are in no position to judge. |
| 15:26.15 | Timmeh | miica: maybe just stop talking all together |
| 15:26.24 | miica | Timmeh: you suddenly so mad? |
| 15:26.56 | Timmeh | nope, your comments haven't made sense for the past 10 minutes, and it's annoying. :-) |
| 15:26.58 | miica | Timmeh: man getting mad from something like is sign from something bad |
| 15:27.13 | Timmeh | like I said, no position to judge |
| 15:27.20 | Timmeh | so stop doing so |
| 15:27.50 | miica | Timmeh: nobody was judging :o |
| 15:28.19 | miica | Timmeh: I just tried to recomend other solution |
| 15:28.39 | znf | miica, as the great Fisker said - kill yourself |
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| 15:29.12 | miica | znf: no need to when i have fisker |
| 15:29.24 | Funkeh` | this is #wowace not #xbox please stop |
| 15:30.00 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:30.31 | Timmeh | in any case, if that stuff I described above works, I may just go for that, I hope to get 1 or 2 characters to 90 before WoD anyway (which I'll probably fail at anyway, but this may help) |
| 15:31.00 | miica | new expansion looks quite bad |
| 15:31.53 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 15:32.03 | znf | so does your face |
| 15:32.22 | miica | well there isnt any new content |
| 15:32.29 | Megalon | so does your face |
| 15:32.32 | miica | it will be shame raiding bullshit as always |
| 15:32.33 | Megalon | heyoooooooo |
| 15:32.43 | miica | same* |
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| 15:59.40 | Adirelle[work] | too bad that oGlow and SyLevel uses the same framework but not the same instance of that framework |
| 16:00.46 | haste | wat |
| 16:02.52 | Gnarfoz | u wot m8?! |
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| 16:20.52 | nevcairiel | Timmeh: character transfers are €20, be it between accounts or just servers |
| 16:22.13 | nevcairiel | with the bonus gametime it probably comes out to just +/- 0 |
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| 16:32.26 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11663 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/ShaOfPride.lua: ShaOfPride: implement code for fragment marking. |
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| 17:26.20 | znf | Stanzilla, so, is there a way to use BigWigs as a trigger for WA? |
| 17:26.25 | znf | bigwigs events, I mean |
| 17:29.04 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11664 Core/BossPrototype.lua: cleanup upvalues. |
| 17:29.18 | Adirelle | haste, SyLevel more or less copies oGlow internals (pipes, filters & al) |
| 17:29.22 | Stanzilla | znf: dunno |
| 17:30.01 | haste | Adirelle: so basically rebranding then, instead of creating a new pipe/filter/display :P |
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| 17:31.10 | Adirelle | haste, yeah kinda, it sad that SyLevel haven't written a plugin to oGlow |
| 17:31.36 | Adirelle | so all configuration could go in one place |
| 17:31.51 | haste | Adirelle: people do odd stuff :P |
| 17:32.02 | Adirelle | I guess |
| 17:32.15 | haste | oGlow is kinda incomplete tho', so might have scared him/her off due to that |
| 17:32.58 | Adirelle | and it should become moot with WoD |
| 17:33.45 | haste | time will tell :) |
| 17:34.41 | Adirelle | I think I read something about this, as well as an "new item" glowing feature, which should allow me to simplify some parts of AdiBags |
| 17:34.44 | EthanCentaurai | how will it become moot? |
| 17:35.12 | Adirelle | EthanCentaurai, I read somewhere they'll wanted to had quality-based colored borders |
| 17:35.30 | Adirelle | s/'ll wanted to had/'ll add/ |
| 17:36.36 | EthanCentaurai | neat |
| 17:37.13 | haste | about time anyway |
| 17:37.51 | Adirelle | can't find my source again though |
| 17:41.09 | Adirelle | ahoibakk, "inventory updates" there : http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3523-World-of-Warcraft-What-s-Next |
| 17:42.14 | Adirelle | wtf that "ahoibakk" comes from ? |
| 17:42.54 | Adirelle | oh, unintentional autocompletion, sorry guy :-p |
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| 17:59.33 | Aiue | throws some cats into the channel. |
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| 18:19.53 | haste | sneezes. |
| 18:25.01 | Fisker | That's my line haste |
| 18:25.14 | haste | MINE |
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| 18:39.40 | znf | That's interesting |
| 18:39.52 | znf | so Readiness, Amplify and Multi-Strike are _secondary_ stats |
| 18:40.17 | znf | the other (lifesteal, movement speed) etc are tertiary |
| 18:41.17 | nevcairiel | yes they are |
| 18:41.34 | nevcairiel | you need to pay more attention |
| 18:41.49 | nevcairiel | secondary stats are more parts fun then actual stats you desperately need |
| 18:42.02 | znf | it wasn't really made clear during blizzcon :P |
| 18:42.03 | nevcairiel | eh, tertiary i mean |
| 18:42.10 | znf | I assumed amplify/readiness/multi-strike would be tertiary, too |
| 18:42.37 | nevcairiel | would be rather boring with just hast/crit/mastery left |
| 18:42.48 | znf | indeed |
| 18:42.49 | nevcairiel | when their overall goal was to take the boring out of it |
| 18:44.40 | znf | though I do think those new secondary stats would be too powerful |
| 18:45.04 | nevcairiel | they just have to be scaled appropriately |
| 18:45.14 | nevcairiel | what good does amplify do if its the only thing you stack? |
| 18:45.27 | znf | well, stack amplify + haste/crit for example |
| 18:46.45 | znf | I'm really curious to see entry-level gear stats, like, what % amplify can you realistically get with dungeon gear, for example |
| 18:47.00 | nevcairiel | they dont have a clue yet |
| 18:47.03 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:47.36 | znf | I know |
| 18:48.00 | znf | this tier's trinket (last tier of expansion) has this trinket providing 9% amplify |
| 18:48.22 | znf | Would we realistically look at this value by the end of WoD? or would this be suitable for 1st tier? |
| 18:49.11 | nevcairiel | would have to do a whole lot of math to figure out the balancing |
| 18:49.33 | nevcairiel | since its a percentage increase, stacking one stat is usually not a big problem, unless some mechanic breaks |
| 18:49.54 | znf | with haste breakpoints gone... :-? |
| 18:51.02 | nevcairiel | in a perfect world, 1 point haste, crit, mastery or any of the new ones would increase your dps by similar amounts |
| 18:51.08 | nevcairiel | however, that would also be a boring world |
| 18:51.35 | nevcairiel | so usually there is no linear scaling to infinity |
| 18:52.00 | Semlar | actually for bm hunters the secondary stats are pretty well balanced |
| 18:52.55 | Semlar | dumping everything into crit would just raise the value of haste |
| 18:53.00 | nevcairiel | the player usually wants to still balance the stats a bit, at least for crit and haste, because critting is nice, and haste makes you do more stuff faster |
| 18:53.23 | nevcairiel | if its the same dps, thats great, but for playstyle different players prefer different things |
| 18:53.45 | nevcairiel | mastery is kinda boring at that, since its definition is just "it makes you better" |
| 18:54.08 | Semlar | i haven't noticed much difference in playstyle going into any of the stats |
| 18:54.27 | Semlar | except with haste i can shoot cobra shots slightly faster |
| 18:54.36 | Semlar | it's an almost imperceptible difference |
| 18:54.49 | nevcairiel | i always like a bit of haste since it makes you a bit more active, but i guess hunters with a whole bunch of instant casts is not so extreme |
| 18:55.06 | Semlar | oh yeah my class is always active anyway |
| 18:55.34 | Semlar | i shoot something like 58.5 shots a minute |
| 18:55.58 | nevcairiel | on rogues/ferals it gives you more energy regen, at certain haste differences something you can feel |
| 18:56.20 | nevcairiel | at least i think so |
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| 18:56.31 | Semlar | it does give you more regen |
| 18:56.34 | znf | yeah, but no feral is going for haste |
| 18:57.41 | znf | will be weird to see spell-power on items again |
| 18:57.58 | nevcairiel | probably not be on many |
| 18:58.05 | nevcairiel | weapons of course |
| 18:58.23 | nevcairiel | definitely not on armor |
| 18:58.31 | nevcairiel | and some jewelry pieces then |
| 18:58.58 | nevcairiel | will be weirder to have rings without primary stats |
| 18:59.51 | znf | indeed |
| 19:00.16 | znf | so what will there be on rings? |
| 19:00.20 | znf | just spell-power? |
| 19:01.00 | nevcairiel | secondary and tertiary |
| 19:01.31 | znf | oh, I misread |
| 19:01.31 | Torhal | This is going to affect/obsolete huge swaths of AddOns. |
| 19:01.43 | Torhal | WoD as a whole, I mean. |
| 19:01.54 | znf | what do you have in mind? |
| 19:02.05 | znf | uuh, I hope we get procs on rings |
| 19:02.14 | nevcairiel | every expansion kills a few addons with built-in stuff |
| 19:02.27 | znf | procs on rings would be nice ^^ |
| 19:02.32 | Torhal | Well, anything having to do with Enchanting will have to be heavily redone. Anything having to do with zone locks... |
| 19:02.43 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Yes, but this seems to cover quite a few areas. |
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| 19:20.01 | Stanzilla | Comment #16 on issue 317532 by ana...@chromium.org: Using one monitor un-fullscreens PPAP Flash instances on different monitors |
| 19:20.01 | Stanzilla | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=317532 |
| 19:20.01 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.01 | Stanzilla | Will look into this today |
| 19:20.03 | Stanzilla | niiice |
| 19:20.26 | Funkeh` | your mother |
| 19:20.46 | Stanzilla | why mean? |
| 19:22.22 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/PvIqws1.jpg |
| 19:22.40 | znf | I'm at 2100++ now |
| 19:23.23 | nevcairiel | i think its funny that this anti-bug addon is bugging out on you :P |
| 19:23.51 | znf | wonder if it's a result of having installed AA |
| 19:24.17 | nevcairiel | AA? |
| 19:24.33 | znf | Angry Assignments |
| 19:30.25 | Funkeh` | I meant to look into that |
| 19:30.30 | Funkeh` | mikks changed have caused that |
| 19:30.38 | Funkeh` | and then you get spammed with fatality all fight |
| 19:30.55 | Funkeh` | and the taint is unavoidable because that's one of the causes of using OpenToCategory |
| 19:31.25 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.57 | EthanCentaurai | Blizzard should just fix the taint and be done with it |
| 19:31.59 | EthanCentaurai | >_> |
| 19:32.00 | EthanCentaurai | <_< |
| 19:32.42 | Funkeh` | using the blizz config has been fucked in one way or another since they added it |
| 19:32.48 | Funkeh` | they fix something and break something else |
| 19:33.19 | znf | should get back to all Ace addons using that unified control panel thingie |
| 19:33.23 | znf | that was Ace2, I believe? |
| 19:38.40 | Torhal | If you install Ace3 stantalone, there's a slash command. |
| 19:39.05 | znf | oh, cool |
| 19:39.56 | nevcairiel | it just blindly lists all registered options tables though, which can be a rather messy list |
| 19:40.08 | znf | so, right now if I do /addon, and that addon opens up the config panel, it taints the hell out of my UI? |
| 19:40.19 | znf | and there's no way to avoid it? |
| 19:41.56 | nevcairiel | maybe we should build an addon that intercepts these calls and shows a custom panel |
| 19:46.19 | znf | ^^ |
| 19:46.23 | znf | put it in blizzbugssuck? |
| 19:46.29 | Torhal | o.O |
| 19:46.32 | Torhal | That's NOT in scope. |
| 19:46.41 | znf | ok :( |
| 19:47.05 | Torhal | Going with those lines of thinking, someone should write a from-scratch UIDropDown thinger and slap that in there. |
| 19:47.13 | Torhal | :P |
| 19:47.29 | Torhal | gets all mean because he's sick and medicated. |
| 19:47.30 | nevcairiel | basic dropdowns i just create with AceGUIs dropdown thing now |
| 19:47.59 | nevcairiel | as long as you dont need sub-levels, its easy enough to use |
| 19:48.04 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Someone actually took all of the UIDropDownMenu code and made it into a fucking library. |
| 19:48.17 | nevcairiel | it could even do sublevels iirc, but its hard to use |
| 19:49.13 | znf | so will armor just be, you know, armor? |
| 19:49.28 | nevcairiel | there is still leather and cloth and mail |
| 19:49.30 | nevcairiel | and plate |
| 19:49.33 | nevcairiel | if thats what you mean |
| 19:50.06 | znf | no, I mean Bonus Armor stat |
| 19:50.10 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 19:50.20 | nevcairiel | sounded like flat armor bonus like in the early days |
| 19:50.27 | nevcairiel | but they also said it wont be a common stat |
| 19:50.30 | nevcairiel | just one of the bunch |
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| 20:16.36 | Repo | big-wigs: 03cremor * r11665 SiegeOfOrgrimmar/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 20:23.00 | Stanzilla | what was it you wanted to rewrite in bt4, nevcairiel |
| 20:23.08 | Stanzilla | the blizz bar hiding? |
| 20:23.11 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 20:23.14 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:23.21 | nevcairiel | although the main concept behind it probably wont change much |
| 20:23.28 | nevcairiel | there is only so many thigns one can do to the bars |
| 20:23.36 | nevcairiel | hide them and give them a hidden parent to make sure they stay hidden |
| 20:23.47 | nevcairiel | all actions that should not result in taint |
| 20:25.29 | Stanzilla | what are you guys using as anti virus software btw? |
| 20:25.52 | Stanzilla | because I'm on windows defender alone and wanted to do some scans for teh lulz |
| 20:26.55 | nevcairiel | http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/157/0/6/Common_Sense__The_Best_AV_by_Spritanium.png |
| 20:28.53 | Stanzilla | yeah that one I use! |
| 20:29.01 | nevcairiel | i doubt it |
| 20:29.02 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:29.04 | Stanzilla | fu |
| 20:30.04 | Stanzilla | I did 52 levels in diablo today |
| 20:30.07 | Stanzilla | my brain is so dead |
| 20:30.17 | nevcairiel | bored much? |
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| 20:30.33 | Stanzilla | excited much |
| 20:30.37 | Stanzilla | crusader is so amazing |
| 20:30.51 | Stanzilla | really fun to play |
| 20:30.56 | Stanzilla | and so far the new act is cool, too |
| 20:31.07 | nevcairiel | sounded nice, will play one for sure in live |
| 20:31.29 | znf | Stanzilla, the only one I install on people's computers is Panda Cloud |
| 20:32.08 | Stanzilla | why |
| 20:39.23 | nevcairiel | i made 68 to 73 in borean tundra, leveling speed is insane these days <.< |
| 20:40.07 | nevcairiel | cant wait until i'm 75 and can finally discard this crappy annoying demon |
| 20:40.27 | znf | Stanzilla, because everything else is annoying as fuck |
| 20:41.33 | znf | avira and avg, the other free alternatives, are too nag-ware for my tastes |
| 21:03.56 | Funkeh` | common sense and defender is fine |
| 21:04.20 | Funkeh` | why bother installing a 3rd party one when in most cases they are coded like shit and cause xyz issues |
| 21:07.04 | Parnic | fisker. yo fisker. i need you to buy me MoP on the EU store for cheap |
| 21:07.21 | Fisker | sure |
| 21:07.33 | Parnic | thanks |
| 21:07.49 | Fisker | why though? |
| 21:07.58 | Parnic | because it's discounted heavily there and not US bnet |
| 21:08.02 | Parnic | and also i don't own it. |
| 21:08.06 | Parnic | and also i kind of want to try it out. |
| 21:08.23 | Fisker | email? |
| 21:14.16 | znf | but, uhm |
| 21:14.22 | znf | isn't that EU? |
| 21:14.25 | znf | and you're US? |
| 21:15.08 | Parnic | it's just a game code for MoP. it's only on sale in the eu store |
| 21:15.18 | Parnic | codes is codes |
| 21:15.36 | znf | thought that was region bound, too |
| 21:17.09 | Fisker | uh yeah |
| 21:17.14 | Fisker | the key will only work on eu |
| 21:17.35 | Fisker | That's what I thought you meant with not US bnet |
| 21:18.50 | Parnic | lol |
| 21:19.32 | Fisker | there will probably be a US sale soon as well |
| 21:19.32 | Fisker | since black friday and shit |
| 21:19.43 | Fisker | infact yes |
| 21:19.44 | Fisker | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10672967399#10 |
| 21:19.54 | Fisker | silly Parnic |
| 21:20.02 | Fisker | anyway I'll go to bed now |
| 21:20.07 | Fisker | been up for a day almost |
| 21:38.34 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11666 (2 files in 2 directories): ShaOfPride: tweak banish timer. |
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| 21:55.59 | MysticalOS | hmm, i should see if SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED is in CLEU or another combatlog.txt only thing |
| 22:01.09 | Semlar | SWING_DAMAGE_LANDED is not a cleu thing |
| 22:01.28 | Semlar | there's SWING_DAMAGE |
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| 22:04.57 | Funkeh` | he's talking about PTR |
| 22:26.34 | znf | there you go, Parnic |
| 22:26.36 | znf | $10/$5 |
| 22:30.03 | Parnic | super cheap. |
| 22:30.24 | Parnic | anybody want to drop me a scroll of resurrection? |
| 22:31.58 | quiescens | don't do it parnic~ |
| 22:32.04 | Parnic | i'm gonna do it quiescens |
| 22:32.09 | Funkeh` | eu or us |
| 22:32.12 | Parnic | US |
| 22:32.15 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 22:34.18 | Parnic | so recruit-a-friend is 85 now, but scroll of res is still 80? oh well. |
| 22:41.20 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11667 Options/Options.lua: |
| 22:41.20 | Repo | Options: hopefully fix the statistics display cutting into a 2nd row for some users. |
| 22:55.37 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r11668-release * r11668 : Tagging as r11668-release |
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