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| 10:05.20 | nevcairiel | we should shovle people with such names over to curseforge |
| 10:08.37 | znf | heh |
| 10:08.46 | znf | how does he even remember that |
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| 12:52.37 | SinusPi | Hey, any idea why #wowinterface is invite-only? |
| 12:54.35 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
| 12:55.06 | SinusPi | Probably because of phlebotinum ;) |
| 12:57.09 | haste | SinusPi: think it was merged to #wowuidev years ago |
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| 13:13.24 | Elkano | used to be a forward though iirc |
| 13:14.52 | haste | yep |
| 13:16.42 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 13:16.45 | Fisker | I need to be stopped |
| 13:17.03 | Fisker | But I'm not sure it's possible |
| 13:20.15 | haste | stop yourself |
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| 13:33.37 | Fisker | I can't haste |
| 13:33.54 | Fisker | I'm about to get an Intel NUC |
| 13:34.43 | haste | do it |
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| 13:35.01 | Fisker | I should not |
| 13:49.41 | Fisker | help haste |
| 13:50.34 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/X6Qh1Ad.png |
| 13:50.37 | haste | do it! |
| 13:50.38 | Fisker | don't make me do this |
| 13:50.41 | haste | I want one as well |
| 13:56.29 | Fisker | next thing I want is a huge nas :P |
| 13:56.42 | Kalroth | what are you doing, Fisker!! |
| 13:56.46 | Kalroth | think of the powerbill |
| 13:56.53 | Fisker | I'm trying to fix the economy |
| 13:56.55 | Kalroth | think of the environment |
| 13:57.00 | Fisker | I am Kalroth |
| 13:57.03 | Kalroth | wont someone think of the children |
| 13:57.34 | Kalroth | what are you going to use it for? HTPC? |
| 13:57.44 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 13:58.51 | Kalroth | XBMC? |
| 13:59.44 | Fisker | Maybe |
| 14:00.19 | Fisker | But I was actually thinking about running plex and then using the chromecast |
| 14:00.59 | Fisker | I already got a setup using XBMC |
| 14:01.07 | Fisker | It's just huge and kinda noisy :P |
| 14:01.44 | Fisker | So I was thinking about moving the disks into a NAS and putting those away |
| 14:02.12 | Fisker | (Yeah it's going to be expensive) |
| 14:02.21 | Fisker | I need at least a 6-bay nas :D |
| 14:06.57 | Fisker | Not sure I'll do it :P |
| 14:07.16 | Fisker | I mean atleast I can just buy a mini-dp cable for the surface pro and use that as a desktop |
| 14:07.21 | Fisker | a bit cheaper |
| 14:13.23 | Kalroth | why not a decent NAS |
| 14:13.27 | Kalroth | instead of that kiddy stuff |
| 14:14.30 | Kalroth | I bought this one last year, now there's a decent NAS: http://www.xcase.co.uk/rackmount-cases/x-case-rm-424-24-hotswap-bay-6gb-mini-sas-sata-sas-backplane-rail-kit-included-79.html |
| 14:15.59 | Fisker | you did not just link me that Kalroth |
| 14:16.52 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB2tk8TJarQ&t=1m42s |
| 14:17.25 | Kalroth | haha |
| 14:17.34 | Kalroth | well you said 6+ drives! |
| 14:17.42 | Fisker | That's definitely 6+ drives :D |
| 14:20.37 | Kalroth | http://www.computerworld.dk/art/229460/test-synology-1813-er-en-toplaekker-nas |
| 14:20.46 | Kalroth | it is toplækker |
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| 15:10.58 | Fisker | man haste |
| 15:11.00 | Fisker | that self-restraint |
| 15:11.21 | oscarucb | packager appears to be stuck, will an admin please kick it? |
| 15:11.43 | haste | Fisker: fail! |
| 15:12.04 | Fisker | nope haste |
| 15:20.45 | Stanzilla | I just watched Carrie |
| 15:20.47 | Stanzilla | awesome movie |
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| 15:35.09 | Fisker | what if it wasn't? |
| 15:35.50 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:36.10 | quiescens | oscarucb: poke it with a stick! |
| 15:37.58 | Fisker | btw haste |
| 15:37.59 | Fisker | that reminds me |
| 15:38.04 | Fisker | I got a dock for my surface pro |
| 15:38.08 | Fisker | So if I plug everything to that |
| 15:38.18 | Fisker | All I need to do is plug it from my surface to my rig if I want to change |
| 15:38.21 | Fisker | imma do that |
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| 16:33.16 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: are you dead? |
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| 16:41.41 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: no, but I'm back home now :D |
| 16:42.19 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: ok |
| 16:42.19 | Gnarfoz | is there something that can force Chrome to use a specific audio device instead of the system default? |
| 16:42.26 | Stanzilla | no |
| 16:43.06 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 16:43.15 | Fisker | I'm glad you're not dead |
| 16:43.23 | Fisker | But you're useless to me now :( |
| 16:43.36 | Megalon | but you wouldn't be useless if you were dead |
| 16:43.40 | Megalon | this is up to you, Gnarfoz |
| 16:43.58 | Gnarfoz | I should set up some kind of will, yeah |
| 16:44.18 | Gnarfoz | zomg, need to nuke these tabs from orbit... Wikipedia binge last night |
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| 16:50.44 | Stanzilla | what is a binge |
| 16:55.50 | Megalon | you know when you eat something |
| 16:55.52 | Megalon | and you are full |
| 16:55.58 | Megalon | but you don't stop and keep at it |
| 16:56.06 | Megalon | that's binging |
| 17:06.18 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 17:06.49 | Gnarfoz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge |
| 17:07.05 | Megalon | i just call it 'regular meal' |
| 17:07.24 | Megalon | agdq2014 started, hooray |
| 17:07.32 | wink | lol |
| 17:09.09 | Gnarfoz | what started |
| 17:10.43 | Megalon | awesome games done quick ;f |
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| 17:22.24 | znf | Stanzilla, or, when you watch a show in a single standing, that's binging a show! |
| 17:22.48 | Megalon | or, when something something your mother, totally binged her last night |
| 17:25.46 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 17:48.43 | znf | well, it took me about 7 hours, but I'm finally done |
| 17:49.11 | znf | after I bought an indian guys html5 icecast player for wordpress, I wasn't happy with it... so I made my own with jPlayer |
| 17:49.51 | Fisker | sell it |
| 17:53.12 | znf | uhm, no |
| 17:58.01 | Megalon | do it znf |
| 17:58.08 | znf | what for? >_< |
| 17:58.33 | Megalon | for the greater good |
| 18:04.41 | znf | anyway: http://stream.amea-radio.gr/ |
| 18:04.56 | znf | I still have no elegant solution for the listener count, but meh :P |
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| 18:35.52 | Gnarfoz | y u greek domain |
| 18:36.10 | Stanzilla | anyone in here seen "escape plan" yet? |
| 18:37.29 | Gnarfoz | - |
| 18:48.14 | Fisker | It has sylvester stallone in it and it's not before the 21st century so no |
| 18:48.34 | Stanzilla | so far it is prettz bad |
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| 19:07.22 | Fisker | well yeah Stanzilla |
| 19:07.30 | Fisker | has sylvester stallone in it and it's the 21st century |
| 19:17.36 | nevcairiel | i saw escape plan, and it was rather weird |
| 19:22.43 | Stanzilla | any good movie suggestions? |
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| 19:50.51 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: watch 30c3 recordings |
| 19:51.08 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 19:51.13 | Stanzilla | I watched the nsa stuff |
| 19:54.06 | Gnarfoz | ~seen torhal |
| 19:54.10 | purl | torhal <Torhal@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedb:9160> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13h 44m 42s ago, saying: 'Ah'. |
| 19:55.02 | Humbedooh | NSA is hiding in torhal's beard |
| 19:56.16 | Gnarfoz | ...and there's still room |
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| 20:08.17 | Gnarfoz | can I have one? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/PS10_solar_power_tower.jpg |
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| 20:20.08 | Stanzilla | oh arnie is in there, too |
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| 20:25.29 | Funkeh` | I'm sure they are heavily offended by that message |
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| 20:32.32 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=328177&postcount=5 |
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| 20:35.32 | Funkeh` | pests |
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| 20:37.24 | Stanzilla | thanks |
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| 21:13.39 | Gnarfoz | All Access ate up my data plan :D |
| 21:14.35 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11719 (2 files in 1 directory): Galakras: Use ENCOUNTER_START |
| 21:14.35 | Repo | Norushen: Re-add the yell warmup trigger as ENCOUNTER_START doesn't always fire for some reason. |
| 21:19.54 | znf | Current Listeners:132 |
| 21:19.56 | znf | this is weird |
| 21:20.04 | znf | I just replaced the audio player on a website |
| 21:20.09 | znf | and the listeners peak spiked up |
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| 21:21.14 | Gnarfoz | znf: "have you checked out the new player?" "no, what? "$url!" |
| 21:21.32 | Gnarfoz | (well, that's not really that realistic for a random website) |
| 21:21.35 | znf | :-? |
| 21:21.44 | Megalon | what |
| 21:22.03 | znf | 24Mbps for 135 listeners |
| 21:22.05 | znf | not bad |
| 21:22.15 | Gnarfoz | should have been "dude, have you checked amea radio's new player? it doesn't suck anymore!" "no, where is it?" "at $url!" |
| 21:22.33 | Gnarfoz | or maybe the old one was just at its maximum capacity already |
| 21:24.01 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.05 | znf | 14.77?! O.O |
| 21:24.07 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 21:24.09 | znf | what in the flying fuck is going on |
| 21:24.15 | znf | (the radio is on another server) |
| 21:24.16 | Gnarfoz | how many cores has the box got? |
| 21:24.26 | Gnarfoz | oh, what box is this, then? web server? |
| 21:24.29 | znf | it's an i7 920, so 4 HT |
| 21:24.30 | znf | yeah |
| 21:24.38 | nevcairiel | IO shows up in the load |
| 21:24.45 | nevcairiel | so your disc is being threshed |
| 21:25.05 | nevcairiel | at that load, i would immediately try to figure out whats causing it, because thats not good |
| 21:25.14 | Gnarfoz | for that system, it means you're at about 175% load |
| 21:25.21 | Gnarfoz | cpu-wise |
| 21:25.22 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ihWtDUi.png |
| 21:25.33 | nevcairiel | load is not as straight forward as that sadly |
| 21:25.35 | znf | nevcairiel, I know what's causing it - wordpress being shit |
| 21:25.38 | nevcairiel | like i said, IO gets factored in there |
| 21:26.10 | znf | 305 people online on the main website, according to analytics |
| 21:26.35 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: if it's linux (which would be a reasonable assumption) :O |
| 21:26.43 | nevcairiel | its amazing how inefficient wordpress can be |
| 21:26.49 | znf | I really need to do a server swap from this old piece of shit, to something with a ssd |
| 21:26.49 | znf | nevcairiel, yeah |
| 21:26.53 | Gnarfoz | WP without caching is teh suck |
| 21:27.08 | znf | if I remove memcached from it, my database dies :D |
| 21:27.17 | Gnarfoz | saywhat |
| 21:27.18 | nevcairiel | an old old server i tried to run a simple blog on basically died when someone tried to open one of these external editing applications that gets the info from wordpress |
| 21:27.21 | nevcairiel | too much load <.< |
| 21:27.22 | Gnarfoz | you're already using caching? |
| 21:27.31 | znf | only memcached now |
| 21:27.36 | Repo | masque_parabole: 03moonwitch 07master * 67e52a6 (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] init |
| 21:27.37 | Gnarfoz | what does it cache, then |
| 21:27.45 | quiescens | everything! |
| 21:27.46 | Gnarfoz | non-logged in users should get static pages |
| 21:28.00 | Gnarfoz | (which is what wp super cache or what it's called does, isn't it?) |
| 21:28.02 | znf | I'm not running wp-super-cache anymore |
| 21:28.02 | nevcairiel | not sure which WP cache is recommended these days |
| 21:28.10 | Gnarfoz | shrugs |
| 21:28.13 | quiescens | load average doesn't mean what people think it means |
| 21:28.14 | Humbedooh | stick a caching proxy in front :C |
| 21:28.15 | znf | wp-super-cache seems to be "the norm" these days |
| 21:28.21 | Gnarfoz | I don't admin any WP sites (luckily, apparently) |
| 21:28.26 | nevcairiel | without a static page cache, WP shits itself quick |
| 21:28.28 | znf | Humbedooh, I have no idea how to do that with this cpanel crap |
| 21:28.49 | nevcairiel | i used to run a blog for a friend for a while |
| 21:28.53 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: it means runnable processes in the run queue, but on Linux, that includes processes in i/o sleep (which is what nev meant) |
| 21:29.01 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11720 (3 files in 1 directory): Remove unneeded death detection. |
| 21:29.36 | nevcairiel | she moved it at some point since i wasnt willing to do more then the most basic hosting tasks, and she didn't know how to admin the blog itself, so yeah :P |
| 21:29.38 | Humbedooh | znf: it would require installing trafficserver or varnish or some such, prolly not something cpanel can simply "do" |
| 21:29.43 | Gnarfoz | it's amazing nobody has come up with a replacement that's easier to interpret |
| 21:30.12 | nevcairiel | well if you want pure cpu numbers, top can show % |
| 21:30.29 | Gnarfoz | how does it calculate them, though? and why is that not available in, say, /proc? |
| 21:30.33 | quiescens | its processes waiting to be run, whatever reason they are waiting (except if they are simply sleeping for time), so yeah |
| 21:30.42 | Gnarfoz | sounds like something the kernel (or the scheduler) should provide |
| 21:30.48 | nevcairiel | maybe it does |
| 21:30.51 | znf | anyway, wp-super-cache is what does static pages, but I removed it when I redone everything |
| 21:31.04 | nevcairiel | so add it back! |
| 21:31.14 | Gnarfoz | znf: so all pages are getting generated dynamically? sounds like that's your bottleneck |
| 21:31.24 | nevcairiel | yeah WP really sucks at that |
| 21:31.29 | znf | Gnarfoz, even with 0 users, my page generation time is like 1.4s |
| 21:31.35 | Gnarfoz | ouch-the-fuck |
| 21:31.42 | znf | wp being crappy |
| 21:31.43 | Humbedooh | WP is okay if you have a caching proxy, works really well with those |
| 21:32.08 | Gnarfoz | which just makes it more obvious: you should have that page generation time once for anonymous users, not for each visitor |
| 21:32.09 | znf | I'm probably going to try using nginx+php-fpm in front of if |
| 21:32.12 | nevcairiel | that reminds me to rebuild my website for LAV, now that google is discontinuing hosting files i should wip up some usable download page for it |
| 21:32.20 | quiescens | you could probably work out cpu % from numbers in /proc/stat |
| 21:32.26 | Gnarfoz | znf: sounds like you just want nginx, not php-fpm also |
| 21:32.30 | nevcairiel | get rid of that stupid WP POS i have right now |
| 21:32.40 | Gnarfoz | znf: if you're trying to do what Humbedooh suggested, that is |
| 21:32.46 | znf | Gnarfoz, apparently php-fpm is the new shit :P |
| 21:32.51 | Humbedooh | nginx isn't designed for proper caching, pffft |
| 21:32.59 | Humbedooh | get trafficserver, varnish or squid for that |
| 21:33.03 | Gnarfoz | Humbedooh: saywhat? nginx's cache works just fine |
| 21:33.14 | znf | Humbedooh, yeah, I have no idea how to do that with that crap cpanel without breaking everything |
| 21:33.15 | Humbedooh | it sucks donkey balls compared to the others |
| 21:33.28 | znf | but I did find a complete solution for nginx+php-fpm |
| 21:33.29 | Gnarfoz | Humbedooh: can you elaborate? |
| 21:33.39 | Gnarfoz | znf: but that'd replace half your stack, not just give you caching |
| 21:34.03 | Gnarfoz | znf: (i.e. where does PHP execute at the moment? mod_php in Apache httpd?) |
| 21:34.18 | Humbedooh | mod_php is the devil |
| 21:34.23 | Gnarfoz | it certainly is |
| 21:34.31 | Gnarfoz | but the most likely scenario |
| 21:34.49 | nevcairiel | luckily i moved to fcgi years ago |
| 21:34.50 | znf | fcgi |
| 21:34.52 | nevcairiel | mod_php was so crappy |
| 21:34.56 | znf | cpanel uses fcgi |
| 21:35.07 | Gnarfoz | well, that's a start |
| 21:35.08 | Gnarfoz | =D |
| 21:35.13 | Humbedooh | Gnarfoz: nginx's caching model isn't as proper as caching proxy servers because it doesn't have to be (it's not a caching proxy, it's a web server) |
| 21:35.36 | Humbedooh | I'll get you some numbers when I can be bothered |
| 21:35.42 | Gnarfoz | anyway, fpm kind of replaces whatever you're currently using as the "fcgi launcher" (might just be a script, or fcgi-starter, or whatever, there's several) |
| 21:35.57 | Humbedooh | something about it being multi-process and not multi-thread-multi-process and what have you |
| 21:36.07 | silentium | do you use any php caching, like APC? |
| 21:36.10 | Gnarfoz | Humbedooh: nginx's proxy module is a caching proxy, I'm not sure what you're getting at |
| 21:36.50 | Humbedooh | Gnarfoz: yes, it can cache, just not as efficiently, complex and fast as servers built only for proxy-caching |
| 21:36.52 | Gnarfoz | Humbedooh: and I'm not sure multithreading has any inherent benefit for this, but then, I didn't write it! :D |
| 21:36.54 | znf | silentium, eAccel |
| 21:38.48 | Gnarfoz | Humbedooh: in any case - any of them will probably serve his particular purpose, and I found nginx quite a bit easier to grasp than, say, Varnish, which has its own language for its config (which might either demonstrate it is more powerful, or just that the authors saw some need for it) |
| 21:39.17 | Humbedooh | sure, if it's not the next facebook, you can easily get away with using nginx for starters |
| 21:39.22 | Humbedooh | it's just not the ideal end solution |
| 21:39.56 | Gnarfoz | granted, Varnish is, besides Traffic Server, I think, the only one that was incepted (is that a correct usage for the word?) for its purpose |
| 21:40.10 | Humbedooh | but if you were, per se, akamai or such, you wouldn't use nginx |
| 21:40.27 | Gnarfoz | heh, probably not |
| 21:41.00 | Humbedooh | ATS has half the time-to-first-response of nginx, for starters |
| 21:41.24 | Humbedooh | varnish and nginx are comparable there, so it comes down to VCL in Varnish's favor |
| 21:41.53 | Gnarfoz | TBT, I haven't looked at any benchmarks recently; ATS was only made available after we chose nginx |
| 21:42.00 | Humbedooh | aanywho, I shouldn't be talking about this, 'cause I'm biased |
| 21:42.03 | Gnarfoz | (but then, we don't even use its caching features since we don't need to :D) |
| 21:42.17 | znf | turned wp-super-cache on |
| 21:42.23 | Gnarfoz | for lack of users, not because our applications are the shit |
| 21:42.28 | Gnarfoz | (they're shit, rather) |
| 21:42.46 | znf | time php index.php returns in 0.063s now |
| 21:42.59 | Gnarfoz | znf: sounds like it works as intended :p |
| 21:43.05 | Gnarfoz | unless that's just an error 500. ;p |
| 21:43.19 | Humbedooh | ofc, the best solution is just to ditch WP and make something in Lua \:D/ |
| 21:43.24 | Humbedooh | superrrrr |
| 21:43.46 | znf | I'll have to install wp-super-cache on all hosted websites, also spawn separate memcached instances for every domain |
| 21:43.59 | Gnarfoz | you do? I have no idea |
| 21:44.11 | znf | Humbedooh, except the owner is my aunt, and she barely "learned" wordpress |
| 21:44.22 | Gnarfoz | thanks the flying spaghetti monster for not having to deal with WP |
| 21:44.27 | znf | Gnarfoz, yeah, I tried using the same instance of memcached on all domains, all the websites started displaying the same content :D |
| 21:44.36 | Humbedooh | Gnarfoz: it could be worse :C |
| 21:44.56 | Humbedooh | it could be java based :| |
| 21:45.30 | Gnarfoz | sure, I'm going to grab the 1080p web-dl version of Sherlock, because it has 4 times the resolution but only 4.7 Mbit/s bitrate (compared to the 720p which has 3.8) |
| 21:45.47 | znf | watched it today |
| 21:45.55 | Humbedooh | NO SPOILERS! |
| 21:45.59 | Humbedooh | *grrr* |
| 21:45.59 | znf | it could have been better :P |
| 21:46.00 | nevcairiel | yeah i dont usually go for 1080p web-dls |
| 21:46.00 | Gnarfoz | supposedly, even the hdtv rip is better than the web-dl |
| 21:46.03 | znf | that's all I'm saying :D |
| 21:46.08 | quiescens | humbedooh: sherlock didn't die |
| 21:46.13 | Humbedooh | well, it's steven moffat, so d'uh |
| 21:46.20 | Humbedooh | stabs quiescens |
| 21:46.22 | quiescens | dies. |
| 21:49.13 | Humbedooh | Gnarfoz: multithreading makes it easier and less expensive to utilize more cores, as opposed to creating multiple processes |
| 21:49.53 | quiescens | its probably not easier |
| 21:49.56 | znf | well, this is weird |
| 21:49.58 | Gnarfoz | how so? (n.b.: I have no clue about this, just curious) |
| 21:50.01 | znf | I enabled wp-super-cache |
| 21:50.10 | znf | and suddenly my realtime users on the website dropped from 300 to 50 |
| 21:50.11 | quiescens | gasp |
| 21:50.30 | Gnarfoz | what do you mean by realtime users? |
| 21:50.52 | Humbedooh | because it allows you to use multiple cores within the same program (and memory) without having to deal with cross-process sharing and context switching |
| 21:50.59 | nevcairiel | simultaneous users probably |
| 21:51.03 | nevcairiel | because they finish faster |
| 21:51.18 | Gnarfoz | how do you track your visitors? |
| 21:52.01 | Stanzilla | with a yellow star |
| 21:52.13 | znf | Gnarfoz, analytics has a "realtime" module |
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| 21:52.19 | Gnarfoz | znf: GA? |
| 21:52.24 | znf | yes |
| 21:52.25 | Megalon | xaxaxa |
| 21:52.29 | Gnarfoz | jejejeje |
| 21:52.39 | znf | I have no idea how that realtime thing works |
| 21:53.05 | Humbedooh | it works by not showing the users with javascript disabled :3 |
| 21:53.16 | Gnarfoz | <1% probably |
| 21:53.21 | Humbedooh | hush you |
| 21:53.35 | znf | Humbedooh, so 300 people disabled JS? :D |
| 21:53.39 | Humbedooh | ye! |
| 21:53.56 | Humbedooh | I blame global climate change |
| 21:54.00 | Gnarfoz | Humbedooh: the cache is disk-backed, what gain would there be to share memory space? (I can accept less context-switching; but you mentioned multi-process-multi-threaded, wouldn't that be less efficient?) |
| 21:54.17 | Gnarfoz | s/to share/in sharing/ |
| 21:54.43 | Humbedooh | Gnarfoz: different processes doing different things, not copies of each other |
| 21:55.07 | Humbedooh | although, I have very little idea what exactly the different processes do, in the case of ATS :| |
| 21:55.14 | Gnarfoz | neither do I |
| 21:55.16 | Humbedooh | one is a server, one is a cop, and one is a...uhm...thing |
| 21:55.35 | Megalon | good cop, bad cop? |
| 21:55.37 | quiescens | seperate processes tends to be for other reasons |
| 21:55.45 | Humbedooh | for an ATS developer, I'm pretty pathetic :| |
| 21:55.47 | quiescens | stuff like privelidge seperation etc |
| 21:55.52 | Gnarfoz | I should look into ATS when I have some time to kill at work (when I go back in on Tuesday... already not looking forward to that) |
| 21:55.55 | quiescens | not for speed purposes |
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| 21:56.09 | Humbedooh | quiescens: no, not for speed purposes (unless we're talking nginx) |
| 21:56.22 | Humbedooh | iirc, nginx still uses one server process per core |
| 21:56.26 | Gnarfoz | nginx has several processes only for scaling, too |
| 21:56.32 | Gnarfoz | not for speed |
| 21:56.40 | Gnarfoz | unless you figure those to be the same thing |
| 21:56.52 | Gnarfoz | (which somehow makes sense) |
| 21:56.52 | Humbedooh | yeah, I'm painting with broad strokes here |
| 21:57.21 | Humbedooh | s/speed/requests per second/ |
| 21:57.48 | Gnarfoz | nginx uses whatever you set worker_processes to, default is, funnily enough, 1, not "auto", even though it exists |
| 21:58.34 | Humbedooh | I seem to recall ATS is a lot greedier, it uses whatever it can get its grubby lil' hands on - but it's mainly designed to be _the_ application on a server |
| 21:59.09 | Humbedooh | whereas nginx is mostly used on servers where you have some php, some sql, some other stuff too |
| 21:59.27 | Gnarfoz | at least it's a common setup |
| 22:00.05 | Gnarfoz | (we have both, separate load balancers that run just nginx, and web/application servers that run nginx + php-fpm + whatever (not db, though)) |
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| 22:18.58 | Stanzilla | nomnoms avocado |
| 22:19.08 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 22:19.11 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 22:19.29 | nevcairiel | avocado tastes weird |
| 22:20.16 | Stanzilla | with cottage cheese and lemon juice! |
| 22:20.40 | Gnarfoz | had some nice food that included avocado in California :D |
| 22:21.25 | Megalon | stop the oxymorons |
| 22:23.47 | Stanzilla | your mom is an oxy moron |
| 22:24.31 | Gnarfoz | mhh, so far, these Cuba Libres had no appreciable influence on my blood pressure |
| 22:24.39 | Gnarfoz | not sure what to make of that :P |
| 22:25.06 | Humbedooh | you're most likely dead |
| 22:25.17 | Stanzilla | why do you want to change your blood pressure? |
| 22:25.27 | Gnarfoz | (also not sure when I should resume taking my meds; I figured it'd be wiser to not drink and take meds... for now) |
| 22:26.27 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: because my bp is too high and I've been taking bp pills for ~a month now |
| 22:26.30 | Stanzilla | depends on the kind of meds |
| 22:26.38 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 22:26.41 | Gnarfoz | certainly |
| 22:27.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 22:27.30 | nevcairiel | i could go for a good cuba libre right now |
| 22:27.59 | Stanzilla | gin tonic! |
| 22:28.14 | Gnarfoz | I'd invite you, nev, but I'm a bit far away now ;p |
| 22:29.11 | nevcairiel | short of a few beers i dont have any alcohol in the house, so not many choices |
| 22:29.48 | quiescens | best make your way over to gnarfoz's |
| 22:30.02 | Gnarfoz | I don't usually, either, I just bought a bottle of lime juice that we didn't need for our NYE party; so I grabbed some rum and coke to go with it when I came home yesterday ;) |
| 22:30.13 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:30.23 | quiescens | how convenient |
| 22:30.50 | znf | I'm trying to upload a youtube video from this iOS crap |
| 22:30.54 | znf | I hit publish then it kind of freezes the app |
| 22:30.57 | znf | not sure if working or not |
| 22:31.09 | Gnarfoz | med manual just says 'might experience dizziness and dazedness' when consuming alcohol w/ it... and to ask le doctor, because bp meds and alcohol can increase each other's effects (this is probably in every fucking medicine's manual) |
| 22:31.11 | Stanzilla | why the fuck is a apple dev account 100 euros |
| 22:31.15 | Stanzilla | we need one for app dev :< |
| 22:31.25 | nevcairiel | so buy one |
| 22:31.42 | Stanzilla | yeah sill |
| 22:31.43 | Stanzilla | 100 euro |
| 22:32.03 | nevcairiel | most people doing ios app dev want to sell those apps, and expect to earn more then 100 :p |
| 22:32.06 | quiescens | apple has to keep the riffraff out |
| 22:32.09 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: cydia! haha. just say "iOS support depends on donations, you Apple users seem to have too much of that anyway!" |
| 22:32.25 | Stanzilla | yeh |
| 22:32.29 | quiescens | you don't want just anyone developing apps |
| 22:32.31 | quiescens | gosh |
| 22:32.33 | Gnarfoz | is your shit even turning a profit, Stanzilla? |
| 22:32.38 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: no |
| 22:32.39 | silentium | apple takes 100 euros because they can, simple as that |
| 22:32.41 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: get off my app store lawn |
| 22:32.55 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I figured |
| 22:32.59 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: well yes but not in the sense of real profit |
| 22:33.06 | Stanzilla | we make + but not much |
| 22:33.11 | nevcairiel | trying to sell to cheap and lazy students, there is no profit in there! |
| 22:33.16 | Gnarfoz | there's only one sense, so you're making profit ;) |
| 22:33.38 | Stanzilla | well I think the app could help sales |
| 22:33.58 | Gnarfoz | seems like a reasonable assumption -- do you have any requests for mobile versions? |
| 22:34.09 | Stanzilla | we'll see. I still have the two other projects from the same startup that I have to work on |
| 22:34.15 | Gnarfoz | (Google dev account is 25€, right?) |
| 22:34.17 | Stanzilla | + the notebook of a friend's sister to fix |
| 22:34.28 | nevcairiel | are you supposed to develop the ios app then? :D |
| 22:34.31 | Stanzilla | no |
| 22:34.49 | znf | AHA! So that's why my youtube uploads are slow! |
| 22:34.52 | Stanzilla | but I have to review the drafts etc |
| 22:35.01 | Stanzilla | get a feature list etc |
| 22:35.07 | quiescens | znf: because your internets are bad? |
| 22:35.16 | znf | nope, ipv6 tunnel |
| 22:35.22 | nevcairiel | with iOS every developer has to buy a license, right? |
| 22:35.28 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: the competitor has one and makes like a million a year in switzerland |
| 22:35.35 | nevcairiel | i mean, cant even load a dev app onto your own phone without it? |
| 22:35.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: not just the publisher? ouch |
| 22:35.46 | Gnarfoz | oh, that was a question |
| 22:35.47 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: you can register IDs on the account |
| 22:35.48 | Gnarfoz | nevermind me |
| 22:35.50 | Stanzilla | device ids |
| 22:35.53 | Stanzilla | that are permitted to use it |
| 22:36.03 | nevcairiel | man thats crazy complicated |
| 22:36.13 | Gnarfoz | doesn't really sound complicated |
| 22:36.33 | Gnarfoz | get dev's phone IDs, add to account, done |
| 22:36.50 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: just iOS? mhhh. |
| 22:37.11 | Stanzilla | it think it's apple dev account |
| 22:37.14 | nevcairiel | some googling says there are personal and company accounts, and personal accounts only work for one dev |
| 22:37.14 | Stanzilla | not ios specific |
| 22:37.21 | znf | nevcairiel, you can jailbreak now |
| 22:37.21 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: no, I meant your competitor |
| 22:37.40 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: oh. no, all their stuff combined |
| 22:37.44 | Stanzilla | paper cards + app stuff |
| 22:37.49 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 22:38.03 | nevcairiel | but company accounts apparently arent any more expensive, so shrug |
| 22:38.19 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: http://sg.uniseminar.ch/ |
| 22:38.20 | Stanzilla | that's them |
| 22:38.59 | Stanzilla | their app is quite good |
| 22:44.42 | nevcairiel | hm i wonder if my new printer arrives tomorrow |
| 22:45.01 | quiescens | why are you getting a new printer? |
| 22:45.32 | nevcairiel | because the old one is kinda broken, and i kinda needed a fax/copier/scanner multi function device |
| 22:46.16 | quiescens | multifunction ones are so annoying sometimes |
| 22:46.30 | Megalon | :< |
| 22:46.54 | Megalon | is that why you only have one function quiescens, and that is dieing? |
| 22:47.49 | quiescens | ): |
| 22:51.44 | Gnarfoz | I just print/scan at work |
| 22:51.52 | Gnarfoz | the... 1 time per year or so I need to |
| 22:51.59 | nevcairiel | I no longer have a work to go to! |
| 22:52.13 | Gnarfoz | I thought you started a new job right after the old one? |
| 22:52.17 | Gnarfoz | oh wait |
| 22:52.17 | nevcairiel | i did |
| 22:52.19 | Gnarfoz | home office |
| 22:52.20 | nevcairiel | but i work from home! |
| 22:52.24 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 22:52.30 | Stanzilla | so I can annoy him all daz |
| 22:52.31 | Gnarfoz | so pro |
| 22:52.32 | Stanzilla | y |
| 22:52.33 | Stanzilla | >( |
| 22:52.37 | Stanzilla | fucking english kezboard |
| 22:52.38 | nevcairiel | i was on irc at work as well |
| 22:52.56 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: fucking german keyboard! |
| 22:52.59 | Gnarfoz | :] |
| 22:53.11 | quiescens | silly kezboard |
| 22:53.32 | Gnarfoz | still quite comfortable with my own layout \o/ |
| 22:53.32 | nevcairiel | anyway, i found quite a bunch of situations where i need a signed document and either fax it or email it, but the problem is getting my signature on there :p |
| 22:54.11 | quiescens | just draw it in paint |
| 22:54.35 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/Gi1VRQZ.png < red means good, right? RIGHT? |
| 22:54.35 | Gnarfoz | scan your signature, add to document |
| 22:54.35 | nevcairiel | and since my old printer was broke anyway, i decided it was time for a new one |
| 22:54.55 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: red means FUN |
| 22:55.00 | znf | The web page address http://www.newsitamea.gr/% CF% 80% CE% B1% CE% AF% CF% 81% CE% BD ... / might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to new web address. |
| 22:55.00 | znf | Error code: ERR_CONTENT_DECODING_FAILED |
| 22:55.01 | znf | what the fuck is that |
| 22:55.10 | Stanzilla | a broken link |
| 22:55.11 | Stanzilla | for me |
| 22:55.22 | Gnarfoz | superfluous spaces, Stanzilla |
| 22:55.39 | nevcairiel | znf: usually means that the headers say its gzip encoded, but the decoding failed |
| 22:55.40 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:56.03 | Stanzilla | I don't want to work on that broken as fuck php site tomorrow :( |
| 22:56.03 | Gnarfoz | what's the actual address, znf? |
| 22:56.05 | quiescens | well maybe someone shouldn't have pasted the link with superfluous spaces in the first place |
| 22:56.17 | Gnarfoz | (without the silly spaces) |
| 22:56.35 | znf | Gnarfoz, newsitamea.gr |
| 22:56.36 | znf | nevcairiel, yeah |
| 22:56.51 | znf | but I'm using deflate, not zip :-/ |
| 22:56.53 | znf | gzip |
| 22:56.56 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 22:56.58 | Gnarfoz | same |
| 22:56.59 | nevcairiel | decoding failed! |
| 22:56.59 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:57.02 | znf | anyway, I'm not seeing it :-| |
| 22:57.03 | Gnarfoz | =p |
| 22:57.05 | znf | nevcairiel, what browser? |
| 22:57.16 | nevcairiel | that error sounds like chrome |
| 22:57.25 | znf | yeah, I don't get it |
| 22:57.29 | znf | I can't reproduce it :-( |
| 22:58.23 | nevcairiel | oh my sherlock is done |
| 22:58.29 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 22:58.31 | nevcairiel | watch now or tomorrow, hmm |
| 22:58.38 | Stanzilla | I have the same problem |
| 22:58.44 | Stanzilla | watch now or watch after terminator 4 that is on TV |
| 22:58.51 | Gnarfoz | mine will only finish in 90 minutes |
| 22:59.04 | Gnarfoz | but tomorrow is a public holiday! :P |
| 22:59.06 | Stanzilla | why so slow_ |
| 22:59.17 | nevcairiel | public holiday? |
| 22:59.23 | nevcairiel | in the weird parts of germany i guess |
| 22:59.26 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: because shitty internet, like the last 3 years :| |
| 22:59.42 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: in that regard, among the best! (I think 2nd highest count of public holidays?) |
| 22:59.51 | nevcairiel | lazy |
| 22:59.57 | Stanzilla | I wish I knew which program is changing mz kezboard lazout all the time |
| 23:00.00 | Stanzilla | it|s so annozing |
| 23:00.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: au contraire! we're more efficient, so we need to work less! :P |
| 23:00.27 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: made sure you've disabled the key combo for it? |
| 23:00.41 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: also, if you don't actually use US layout... just remove it |
| 23:00.47 | nevcairiel | i just delete the english one since i never need it |
| 23:00.54 | quiescens | o.o |
| 23:00.59 | Gnarfoz | I install my own layout and remove all others, same deal |
| 23:01.04 | Stanzilla | the combo is shift+alt |
| 23:01.06 | Stanzilla | I never press that |
| 23:01.12 | Stanzilla | I can't delete all english thingies :( |
| 23:01.12 | Gnarfoz | you might |
| 23:01.20 | Gnarfoz | but you can just disable the combo |
| 23:01.20 | quiescens | alt-shift-tab? |
| 23:01.27 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 23:01.28 | Gnarfoz | stuff like that |
| 23:01.35 | quiescens | can't you just turn off the kezboard shortcut? |
| 23:01.35 | nevcairiel | i actually needed the english one back at some time when i needed to go to the console in wow |
| 23:02.10 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: that's what I do at work, I left the german layout installed so our sysadmin doesn't get mad ;p |
| 23:02.17 | quiescens | so that you can still right click the icon thingy to change your kezboard lazout when you want to change it? |
| 23:02.21 | Gnarfoz | (Windows sysadmin, that is) |
| 23:02.31 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/DjbdRB8.png |
| 23:02.32 | Stanzilla | see |
| 23:02.36 | Stanzilla | it only has german |
| 23:02.50 | Gnarfoz | wth is that |
| 23:02.52 | Gnarfoz | win8 madness |
| 23:02.55 | Stanzilla | windows 8 |
| 23:03.05 | nevcairiel | mine looks differently o.o |
| 23:03.09 | Gnarfoz | where's the language toolbar stuff |
| 23:03.24 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: like that? http://i.imgur.com/7bd1L4T.png |
| 23:03.29 | quiescens | input methods is probably not neccesarily keyboard layouts |
| 23:03.46 | Gnarfoz | I'm still kind of ok with not being able to get into my MS account |
| 23:03.50 | nevcairiel | why does your english entry have a german keyboard layout |
| 23:03.52 | nevcairiel | thats just wrong |
| 23:03.54 | Gnarfoz | prevents me from installing 8 :D |
| 23:04.15 | Stanzilla | dunno? I only selected everything english on installation |
| 23:04.18 | Stanzilla | and keyboard layout german |
| 23:04.36 | nevcairiel | i have a german entry with germany keyboard layout, i just didnt install the language pack |
| 23:04.49 | Stanzilla | I have no language pack either |
| 23:05.48 | nevcairiel | anyhow Gnarfoz, the language bar settings are in the "advanced" button on Stanzillas second screenshot :p |
| 23:05.53 | Stanzilla | I added german end removed US now |
| 23:05.55 | Stanzilla | we|ll see |
| 23:05.57 | Stanzilla | FUCK THAT |
| 23:06.01 | quiescens | o.o |
| 23:06.01 | Stanzilla | OWNED IN PROGRESS |
| 23:06.06 | quiescens | pats stanzilla |
| 23:06.07 | quiescens | there there |
| 23:06.36 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 23:06.46 | Stanzilla | no idea what does that |
| 23:07.09 | nevcairiel | just get used to english layout |
| 23:07.19 | Gnarfoz | how did you get pipe |
| 23:07.23 | Gnarfoz | when you wanted to get apostrophe |
| 23:07.27 | Stanzilla | that's a bit hard without knowing which key does which |
| 23:07.29 | Gnarfoz | are those even on the same key |
| 23:07.32 | quiescens | its his kezboard lazout |
| 23:07.41 | nevcairiel | no idea where pipe is on US layout |
| 23:07.47 | Stanzilla | on # |
| 23:07.53 | Gnarfoz | # doesn't exist on US layout |
| 23:07.54 | Stanzilla | shift+# |
| 23:07.57 | Gnarfoz | that's one of the problems :p |
| 23:08.04 | quiescens | pipe on US is shift \ |
| 23:08.14 | Gnarfoz | and DE layout doesn't have that key |
| 23:08.17 | quiescens | which is usually near the enter key |
| 23:08.23 | quiescens | # is shift 3 |
| 23:08.29 | Gnarfoz | we have 2-row return key |
| 23:08.39 | Gnarfoz | and small r-shift |
| 23:08.41 | quiescens | ' is just to the left of enter |
| 23:08.45 | Gnarfoz | errr... wide r-shift |
| 23:08.50 | quiescens | or return or whatever |
| 23:09.09 | nevcairiel | for reference; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/ANSI_Keyboard_Layout_Diagram_with_Form_Factor.svg |
| 23:09.12 | Gnarfoz | in any case, US has two keys less than EU |
| 23:09.24 | Gnarfoz | so good luck figuring it out without looking at something like nevcairiel just posted |
| 23:10.06 | nevcairiel | wonder where # goes to since it doesnt exist |
| 23:10.12 | nevcairiel | i guess the key above return |
| 23:10.15 | nevcairiel | which would be | |
| 23:10.28 | Neffi | If you have a two-height enter key with a US keyboard, \ and pipe are next to backspace |
| 23:10.32 | Neffi | Otherwise above enter |
| 23:10.48 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: err what? |
| 23:10.56 | znf | can you guys check http://www.newsitamea.gr/%CE%92%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%AD%CE%B1-%CE%BC%CE%AD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B1-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%84%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%AE-%CF%83%CE%B1%CF%82-%CE%94%CE%B5%CE%AF%CF%84%CE%B5-%CF%84-2/ |
| 23:11.03 | znf | damn stupid greek chars |
| 23:11.05 | quiescens | what is your shift-3 if it isn't #? |
| 23:11.08 | Stanzilla | found the cause |
| 23:11.08 | Gnarfoz | znf: "This webpage is not available" |
| 23:11.08 | nevcairiel | znf: Fehlercode: ERR_CONTENT_DECODING_FAILED |
| 23:11.08 | quiescens | o.o |
| 23:11.10 | Stanzilla | it's jdownloader |
| 23:11.11 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 23:11.16 | znf | WHY THE F* DOES IT WORK FOR ME? >_< |
| 23:11.22 | nevcairiel | quiescens: § |
| 23:11.27 | quiescens | oic |
| 23:11.30 | quiescens | we don't have that |
| 23:11.30 | znf | wait |
| 23:11.31 | nevcairiel | yes, we have a paragraph sign! |
| 23:11.40 | Gnarfoz | not surprising |
| 23:11.45 | Gnarfoz | bureaucracyland |
| 23:11.48 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 23:11.51 | znf | Gnarfoz, http://tinyurl.com/pw8oe67 |
| 23:11.54 | znf | and nevcairiel |
| 23:12.05 | Gnarfoz | znf: it's not the urlencoding's fault, the link is fine |
| 23:12.24 | Stanzilla | now I reallz need to make an account at their shittz forum |
| 23:12.24 | znf | then why do I see it, damn it? :D |
| 23:12.28 | quiescens | The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. |
| 23:12.30 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 23:12.36 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: no, first you have to fix your keyboard layout :D |
| 23:12.51 | quiescens | don't make accounts with a broken kezboard layout |
| 23:12.51 | Stanzilla | -.- |
| 23:12.54 | Gnarfoz | znf: because your nobody-uses-this-version browser supports the compression method? |
| 23:12.57 | quiescens | you'll have an unusable password or something |
| 23:13.10 | nevcairiel | too bad chromes network panel doesnt show whats going on in this case |
| 23:13.16 | nevcairiel | cba to wireshark |
| 23:13.22 | znf | Gnarfoz, I'm on canary >_< |
| 23:13.29 | Gnarfoz | znf: exactly my point |
| 23:13.44 | Gnarfoz | exactly 0 of your visitors are |
| 23:13.54 | quiescens | content encoding says gzip |
| 23:13.58 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: chrome://net-internals/ |
| 23:14.02 | quiescens | data is not very gzippy |
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| 23:14.21 | Stanzilla | also nvidia ces press event is on now |
| 23:14.32 | nevcairiel | i thought it would be later |
| 23:15.01 | znf | I'll try turning off mod_deflate |
| 23:16.15 | nevcairiel | headers say encoding is gzip in the response |
| 23:16.17 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: it is |
| 23:16.17 | znf | didn't work |
| 23:16.19 | Stanzilla | I was confused |
| 23:16.27 | Stanzilla | 8pm PT |
| 23:16.33 | nevcairiel | if its actually deflate and not gzip, no wonder it no work |
| 23:16.38 | quiescens | that's what i said ): |
| 23:17.15 | znf | I turned deflate off |
| 23:17.16 | quiescens | i wonder what browser znf is using that it works for him |
| 23:17.17 | znf | nothing changed |
| 23:17.21 | znf | I have no idea wtf is going on |
| 23:17.23 | znf | quiescens, chrome canary |
| 23:17.44 | quiescens | response header still says content encoding is gzip |
| 23:18.36 | znf | hmmm |
| 23:18.37 | nevcairiel | znf: my guess is that some WP plugin applies gzip compression |
| 23:20.36 | znf | hmmm |
| 23:21.14 | znf | < WP-Super-Cache: Served legacy cache file |
| 23:21.16 | znf | ??! |
| 23:21.19 | znf | that shit is disabled |
| 23:21.22 | quiescens | what is the response supposed to be anyway? |
| 23:22.50 | Gnarfoz | probably gzipped html |
| 23:22.56 | Gnarfoz | at least that would be the usual situation |
| 23:23.10 | Gnarfoz | but if the header says it is and it really isn't -> blergh |
| 23:23.18 | Gnarfoz | or if the header doesn't say, but it really is -> blergh |
| 23:23.29 | znf | I had to remove the actual .php of the plugin to disable it |
| 23:23.36 | znf | so somehow that fails |
| 23:23.45 | quiescens | it woekd! |
| 23:23.54 | Gnarfoz | I'm guessing their README says that's how you disable it, and you just didn't bother to read it |
| 23:23.56 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:24.24 | quiescens | now there's a page of jibberish \o/ |
| 23:24.29 | Stanzilla | most of those wp/joomla plugins are so badly written |
| 23:24.32 | nevcairiel | yeah super cache may actually gzip the static files, since it assumes any browser on the planet will understand gzip these days |
| 23:24.33 | Stanzilla | no wonder |
| 23:25.09 | znf | oh, btw, this is how my game worked tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtA05JjH1v8&feature=youtu.be |
| 23:25.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: but then, why didn't it work? the header said gzip :D |
| 23:25.36 | Gnarfoz | maybe mod_deflate then deflated it. haha |
| 23:25.38 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 23:26.04 | Gnarfoz | I can clearly see that's more than 2 fps |
| 23:26.05 | Neffi | seen worse, znf |
| 23:26.06 | znf | mkay, let's see, I disabled compression |
| 23:26.13 | Neffi | I've seen actual 2 fps. It's not fun. |
| 23:26.23 | znf | Neffi, that IS 2 fps |
| 23:26.58 | Neffi | Looks relatively fluid compared to what I've dealt with before |
| 23:27.24 | Gnarfoz | (and I can also clearly see that you've still not ditched your fps gobbling addons. *shrug*) |
| 23:27.46 | Funkeh` | I don't think he's gonna get 10+fps back somehow :p |
| 23:28.07 | Gnarfoz | no, but 2 -> 4 is still 100% gain ;] |
| 23:28.20 | quiescens | it says content-encoding is gzip |
| 23:28.32 | Gnarfoz | it's clearly lying |
| 23:28.34 | znf | yeah, I've disabled it... |
| 23:28.37 | quiescens | raw response excluding headers is.. |
| 23:28.39 | quiescens | a:5:{s:7:"headers";a:5:{s:16:"Content-Encoding";s:22:"Content-Encoding: gzip";s:4:"Vary";s:29:"Vary: Accept-Encoding, Cookie";s:12:"Content-Type";s:38:"Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8";s:10:"X-Pingback";s:47:"X-Pingback: http://www.newsitamea.gr/xmlrpc.php";s:13:"Last-Modified";s:44:"Last-Modified: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:11:23 ... |
| 23:28.41 | Stanzilla | is your raid leader greek? |
| 23:28.42 | znf | but still saying |
| 23:28.45 | quiescens | ... GMT";}s:3:"uri";s:219:"www.newsitamea.gr/%CE%92%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%AD%CE%B1-%CE%BC%CE%AD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B1-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%84%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%AE-%CF%83%CE%B1%CF%82-%CE%94%CE%B5%CE%AF%CF%84%CE%B5-%CF%84-2/";s:7:"blog_id";i:1;s:4:"post";i:47813;s:3:"key";s:225:"www.newsitamea.gr80/%CE%92%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%AD%CE%B1-%CE%BC%CE%AD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B1-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7-%CE%B ... |
| 23:28.46 | znf | OH |
| 23:28.47 | Stanzilla | or the guy talking |
| 23:28.49 | znf | worked now |
| 23:28.50 | nevcairiel | you would be surprised how much addons can pull you down, especially if your base FPS is already rather low |
| 23:28.51 | quiescens | ... 4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%84%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%AE-%CF%83%CE%B1%CF%82-%CE%94%CE%B5%CE%AF%CF%84%CE%B5-%CF%84-2/gzip";} |
| 23:28.54 | quiescens | lol |
| 23:28.55 | quiescens | that doesn't look gzip |
| 23:29.02 | znf | wroks now |
| 23:29.05 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 23:29.12 | znf | Stanzilla, no |
| 23:29.17 | znf | MKAY |
| 23:29.24 | znf | I had to disable object-caching in Wordpress |
| 23:29.52 | quiescens | well currently no encoding |
| 23:30.01 | quiescens | depending on whether thats what you intended |
| 23:30.26 | znf | let me enable mod_deflate back |
| 23:31.08 | znf | I have no idea what the fuck this shit is doing |
| 23:31.40 | Gnarfoz | sounds like it's high time for RTFM |
| 23:32.06 | quiescens | content encoding is gzip nows |
| 23:32.11 | Stanzilla | best video on znf |
| 23:32.14 | quiescens | and it looks gzippy |
| 23:32.24 | znf | quiescens, huh? doesn't show to me |
| 23:32.36 | znf | I don't see gzip in the headers :-/ |
| 23:32.54 | nevcairiel | i see gzip |
| 23:33.05 | znf | in the browser or curl? |
| 23:33.10 | nevcairiel | browser |
| 23:33.13 | quiescens | netcat and browser |
| 23:33.33 | Gnarfoz | I get content-encoding: gzip in Chrome |
| 23:34.09 | quiescens | znf is clearly either sekretly proxied or is using some magical version of chrome that noone else has |
| 23:35.01 | Stanzilla | now if I search through the recent git commits to chrome and find something about broken gzip stuff |
| 23:35.05 | Stanzilla | I'm going to hang you znf |
| 23:35.13 | Stanzilla | for still using canary as main browser |
| 23:35.21 | Gnarfoz | do eet |
| 23:35.24 | Gnarfoz | you know you want to |
| 23:35.31 | znf | well, I don't see how it's broken :P |
| 23:35.44 | znf | seeing that I actually SEE the content when it's being sent as gzip |
| 23:35.58 | znf | yeah, I see gzip in firefox, too, now |
| 23:36.08 | Stanzilla | http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=git/chromium.git;a=commitdiff;h=285c7a1d33845def72ce50d28109b3463ac5160a |
| 23:36.26 | Stanzilla | was the last commit that had the word gzip in it |
| 23:36.31 | Stanzilla | not going to search for more P |
| 23:37.01 | nevcairiel | thats about bookmark sync |
| 23:37.08 | quiescens | doesn't look relevant |
| 23:37.13 | quiescens | lets just blame znf and be done with it |
| 23:37.15 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 23:37.16 | Gnarfoz | znf: ctrl-shift-i, look at response headers |
| 23:37.19 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:37.34 | quiescens | netcat iz the easiest |
| 23:37.36 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 23:38.50 | Gnarfoz | curl --compressed -I |
| 23:39.45 | znf | yeah, I see them everywhere and it seems to be working |
| 23:46.01 | Stanzilla | crisis adverted |
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