| 00:37.25 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: dont remember, 9 maybe? not sure |
| 00:37.39 | Gnarfoz | oh, I should catch up a bit, then... reading forums atm :D |
| 00:38.15 | nevcairiel | i miss-remembered, only 8 |
| 00:38.18 | nevcairiel | -s |
| 00:38.34 | nevcairiel | but going to sleepz now |
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| 01:24.13 | quiescens | moo |
| 01:46.29 | Gnarfoz | milks quiescens |
| 01:47.09 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 06:08.47 | Repo | gathermate2_data: 03kagaro * r339 (3 files in 1 directory): GatherMate2_Data: Data update |
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| 06:23.29 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: my brother has an imac 12.1, do I have to manually upgrade drivers (graphic) or does apple do that? I only thought of this because that thing is slow as fuck |
| 06:27.47 | quiescens | maybe its just slow |
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| 06:57.33 | Stanzilla | quiescens: it's slow beyond my patience |
| 07:23.20 | Stanzilla | http://blog.chromium.org/2014/03/webp-improves-while-rolling-out-across.html |
| 07:23.22 | Stanzilla | pretty cool |
| 07:23.45 | Stanzilla | also fun to read is the mozilla bug entry about implementing webp |
| 07:23.56 | Stanzilla | so much "NO! ITS GOOGLE!" |
| 07:26.36 | Fisker | yes Stanzilla |
| 07:26.38 | Fisker | It's google |
| 07:26.54 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 07:26.56 | Stanzilla | can't be trusted |
| 07:27.17 | Fisker | They probably read your webp's |
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| 08:17.49 | Stanzilla | Fisker: their biggest concern is that it uses vp8 instead of 9 btw |
| 08:18.13 | Fisker | VP8 was that the one with the patent issues? |
| 08:20.55 | Stanzilla | probably |
| 08:21.00 | Stanzilla | dunno though |
| 08:21.07 | Stanzilla | their concern is that it is "old" |
| 08:21.18 | Stanzilla | while vp9 mainly improves video stuff, not image stuff |
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| 09:16.27 | Fisker | ah Stanzilla |
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| 11:30.17 | znf | something I dislike about Wildstar's combat system: "tap F" |
| 11:30.21 | znf | to get out of stuns and shit |
| 11:30.40 | quiescens | as in like, repeatedly? |
| 11:31.09 | znf | yes |
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| 11:35.27 | Fisker | hence "tap" quiescens |
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| 13:25.01 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 13:25.03 | Gnarfoz | 750ti? |
| 13:25.20 | Gnarfoz | or is there something with even more bang/€ |
| 13:25.31 | quiescens | pew pew |
| 13:27.10 | nevcairiel | if you're really looking for the best value and dont want amd, it will probably qualify, its not fast enough for my taste |
| 13:28.07 | Gnarfoz | I've got a GTX 460 |
| 13:28.36 | Gnarfoz | and no, I don't want AMD, I think ^^ |
| 13:29.12 | Gnarfoz | doesn't have to be optimal value, though... if it's a weak card, I'll just have to replace it that much sooner |
| 13:40.26 | Fisker | I'd probably wait for the real maxwell |
| 13:40.49 | Fisker | Which is easy to say |
| 13:43.01 | Fisker | Eyeballing it, you may see not a huge increase in performance |
| 13:43.37 | Fisker | Except for maybe in like compute/tesselation scenarios I guess |
| 13:44.02 | Fisker | like 25% I guess |
| 13:44.07 | Fisker | Which is decent |
| 13:44.35 | Fisker | Maybe tomshardware have a decent comparison |
| 13:45.31 | Gnarfoz | what's unreal about this Maxwell? |
| 13:45.36 | Gnarfoz | except it being a budget model |
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| 13:45.58 | Fisker | Being a budget model |
| 13:46.19 | Fisker | Typically below x60 is HTPC market |
| 13:46.35 | Fisker | So while it will definitely outperform your 460 I don't think it will by a huge margin |
| 13:46.40 | Gnarfoz | I've long given up on making sense of graphics card model names |
| 13:46.55 | nevcairiel | I would've liked an upgrade from the 660 in my htpc with a maxwell model, but the 750ti is even slower then the 660, so nvidias typical +100-10 didn't hold up |
| 13:48.26 | nevcairiel | admittedly its also cheaper than the 660 |
| 13:51.28 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: when's the "real Maxwell" due? |
| 13:51.33 | Fisker | idk |
| 13:51.34 | Gnarfoz | (would the real Maxwell please stand up?) |
| 13:51.37 | Fisker | few months I think? |
| 13:51.49 | nevcairiel | noone ever really said |
| 13:53.05 | Fisker | Yeah I guess that's right |
| 13:53.32 | nevcairiel | would be neat to get a 880 around the time when haswell-e comes out, for a roundabout renewed pc |
| 13:54.38 | Fisker | perfect storm of a month of wages going to a new build |
| 13:54.51 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 13:55.06 | Gnarfoz | I don't see any need to replace my i7-2600k |
| 13:55.10 | Gnarfoz | (which I don't even OC) |
| 13:55.39 | Fisker | Haswell-E will change the world |
| 13:55.48 | Fisker | But the world refused to change |
| 13:55.52 | Gnarfoz | I could maybe double my RAM to 16 GB and replace my 128 GB SSD to something with more headroom |
| 13:55.52 | Fisker | It will be so expensive |
| 13:55.54 | Fisker | DDR4 :( |
| 13:56.16 | nevcairiel | I already know that the CPU i will want is going to be $999 |
| 13:56.16 | nevcairiel | but |
| 13:56.18 | nevcairiel | 8 cores |
| 13:56.19 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 13:56.44 | Gnarfoz | I can run one copy of WoW on each of them! |
| 13:56.56 | Gnarfoz | so optimize, very multithread, wow |
| 13:56.59 | nevcairiel | I do more non-gaming things then gaming |
| 13:57.04 | Gnarfoz | I realize ;] |
| 13:57.25 | nevcairiel | I wonder if I thats reasonable to deduct from taxes |
| 13:57.39 | nevcairiel | well can always try! |
| 13:57.47 | Gnarfoz | I think the only things maxing out my CPU are panorama stitching (which I rarley do) and video encoding (which I do about as often as the other thing) |
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| 14:08.22 | Fisker | o hi nevcairiel |
| 14:08.29 | Gnarfoz | so 780ti? ;D |
| 14:08.35 | Gnarfoz | nah, I'm just going to wait |
| 14:08.46 | Fisker | 800 |
| 14:09.03 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's a bit off, though |
| 14:10.39 | Fisker | ah |
| 14:10.41 | Fisker | I forgot |
| 14:10.47 | Fisker | 780ti is an actual released product |
| 14:11.07 | nevcairiel | an expensive one though |
| 14:13.05 | nevcairiel | if you really must, could always go with a 750ti, its not like its going to set you back by much, and it should be around 50-70% faster then your 460 |
| 14:13.43 | nevcairiel | its around twice as fast as a 550ti |
| 14:13.49 | nevcairiel | sadly noone compares to 460 anymore |
| 14:15.08 | Gnarfoz | ChipMeter says a 660ti is almost exactly twice as fast |
| 14:15.11 | nevcairiel | rumors otherwise are Q3 or Q4 for the high-end maxwell, but thats like a span of 6 months |
| 14:17.22 | Gnarfoz | you said it's not as fast as the 660 (non-ti) |
| 14:17.32 | nevcairiel | no its not |
| 14:18.08 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 14:18.16 | nevcairiel | 10-15% below |
| 14:18.17 | Gnarfoz | ChipMeter rates the 460 SE as 61% of the 660 |
| 14:18.29 | nevcairiel | http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1039?vs=1130 |
| 14:18.35 | nevcairiel | they sadly dont have a 460 |
| 14:19.24 | Gnarfoz | yeah, Chipmeter is the only one I found that still has old shit |
| 14:19.38 | Gnarfoz | they don't even have the 750ti, that's why I'm asking for models with similar performance :D |
| 14:22.01 | nevcairiel | its similar to an AMD R7 260x, if you have that :p |
| 14:23.33 | Fisker | well |
| 14:23.35 | Fisker | take some gaems |
| 14:23.37 | Fisker | benchmark them |
| 14:23.40 | Fisker | compare results |
| 14:23.52 | Gnarfoz | you're missing one step |
| 14:23.57 | nevcairiel | http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-460 ... no real world d ata, but hey |
| 14:24.01 | Gnarfoz | no, you're not |
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| 14:24.50 | Fisker | Indeed |
| 14:25.33 | Gnarfoz | grargh my chair is failing again |
| 14:26.14 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:26.18 | Fisker | Want me to be your chair? |
| 14:26.21 | nevcairiel | since you live in germany, you might as well order it, reserve a bit of time to test yourself, and return if no like |
| 14:26.40 | Fisker | or better yet |
| 14:26.46 | Fisker | get this nevcairiel guy to buy it for you |
| 14:26.51 | Fisker | with his damn curse points |
| 14:26.57 | nevcairiel | i already have a 750 non-ti |
| 14:26.57 | Fisker | :P |
| 14:27.16 | Fisker | It's actually pretty cheap |
| 14:27.32 | nevcairiel | the ti is what, 130€ |
| 14:27.43 | nevcairiel | not even |
| 14:27.51 | nevcairiel | 120 first models |
| 14:27.58 | Fisker | Better write stuff soon |
| 14:28.03 | Fisker | Got to explain why dumbasses are dumb |
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| 14:29.56 | Fisker | poor Sunshine |
| 14:33.05 | Fisker | 5 days until I get my wage + extra they owe me |
| 14:33.15 | Fisker | and then another 7 and I get another 600€ back in taxes |
| 14:33.16 | Gnarfoz | I bet you don't get the extra |
| 14:33.21 | Fisker | I'm gonna be rich |
| 14:33.22 | Gnarfoz | just because they're assholes |
| 14:33.23 | Fisker | lol Gnarfoz |
| 14:33.30 | Gnarfoz | oh taxes |
| 14:33.40 | Gnarfoz | I should do taxes some time |
| 14:33.44 | Gnarfoz | I've not done them ever |
| 14:33.46 | Fisker | I got 2000€ a few months back because they had forgotten some bonuses and shit |
| 14:33.57 | Fisker | I've then gotten a pay rise the same time |
| 14:34.07 | Fisker | So they're 3 months of pay rises late :P |
| 14:34.11 | Fisker | Which I should get this month |
| 14:34.12 | Fisker | should |
| 14:34.14 | Gnarfoz | but I'm reaching the point where I can't do my taxes all the way back to the start of my employment |
| 14:34.21 | Fisker | Before that it was last month |
| 14:34.24 | Fisker | and then the month before |
| 14:34.49 | Fisker | I've not done taxes either |
| 14:34.56 | Fisker | You think this is america? |
| 14:35.42 | Fisker | Also got around $1000 in borrowed money |
| 14:35.45 | Fisker | so that's nice |
| 14:35.57 | Fisker | (unless it's never repaid) |
| 14:37.08 | Fisker | Would be nice if I have a job so I can feasibly attend Blizzcon 2014 |
| 14:37.18 | Gnarfoz | why do you get stuff back in taxes... if you're not doing your taxes? |
| 14:37.51 | Gnarfoz | also lol, R290X + GTX Titan as PhysX accelerator - talk about overkill :D |
| 14:37.51 | Fisker | Because I pay taxes based on estimates using last years taxes |
| 14:38.01 | Fisker | I get back taxes because that estimate was off |
| 14:38.06 | Gnarfoz | and they know that... how? |
| 14:38.24 | Fisker | As I said we're not a barbaric third party country |
| 14:38.31 | Gnarfoz | that's exactly why you have to do taxes here (and everywhere else I know of) |
| 14:38.36 | Fisker | All this information is automatically sent to the tax department |
| 14:39.16 | Gnarfoz | sounds like something Ms Merkel should look into |
| 14:39.25 | Gnarfoz | instead of bullshit "sanctions" against Russia |
| 14:39.25 | Fisker | So if you're basically just working and have no other factors like children, wife, distance to work in excess of 25km then you have to do nothing |
| 14:39.26 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 14:40.14 | Fisker | Why? |
| 14:40.16 | Fisker | It's great |
| 14:40.47 | Gnarfoz | what? |
| 14:40.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:40.55 | Gnarfoz | I meant we should adopt something like ethat |
| 14:40.59 | Fisker | ah |
| 14:41.22 | Fisker | Why don't we just WW3 and get it over it? |
| 14:41.25 | Fisker | with* |
| 14:41.29 | Fisker | Hitler did nothing wrong |
| 14:41.42 | Gnarfoz | p much |
| 14:41.45 | Fisker | He just realized it before everyone else |
| 14:43.09 | Fisker | I need the federation |
| 14:43.21 | Fisker | Then at least the world would be grown up |
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| 14:59.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:17.12 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: if you work for a big enough company, they would do the yearly compensation from the estimates for you, at least for einkommensteuer, so you can get by without doing your taxes and still not lose money :d |
| 15:18.02 | nevcairiel | I used to get a calculation sheet once a year with the estimation and the actual values and they automatically compensated |
| 15:18.16 | nevcairiel | of course, now that i'm self-employed I have no chance but to do it myself :p |
| 15:20.04 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how that works |
| 15:20.23 | Gnarfoz | because officially, I'm the one responsible for paying the tax, not my employer |
| 15:21.03 | Gnarfoz | I haven't spent enough time with this crap (and I'm not keen on doing so) |
| 15:21.55 | nevcairiel | i have a steuerberater for my first year of self-employment now, and the first time doing taxes next year, just to be safe, plan to switch to doing it myself after if it didn't seem too complicated |
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| 18:41.10 | Gnarfoz | reverse 2048 http://wegnerdesign.com/2048/ znf |
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| 19:14.25 | nevcairiel | are you sure this game is winnable? :p |
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| 19:40.07 | Gnarfoz | no idea |
| 19:42.55 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
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| 20:02.54 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/mp5RmrI.gif tfw seeing Fisker coming out of the shower |
| 20:08.21 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: does the ace3 profile reset button have a confirmation window by default? |
| 20:14.52 | Fisker | U W0T M8? |
| 20:19.59 | Fisker | Hey Kalroth |
| 20:20.03 | Fisker | Don't mess with the warrior |
| 20:20.09 | Kalroth | plz |
| 20:24.02 | Fisker | U wanna fite? |
| 20:26.09 | Gnarfoz | bear is not for fite |
| 20:29.49 | wink | man that healer in tank proving grounds suck |
| 20:30.13 | Megalon | bare durids can B 4 tank! |
| 20:31.50 | Fisker | It's time to sleep soon Kalroth |
| 20:32.15 | Kalroth | aww, nn fisker |
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| 22:53.23 | Ressy | zrfrhfdsagvcxz |
| 22:53.53 | nevcairiel | either Ressy is angry at something, or just lost a password |
| 22:54.21 | nevcairiel | (which would result in the former?) |
| 23:03.52 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: cat |
| 23:04.10 | Gnarfoz | (or kid) |
| 23:05.05 | Gnarfoz | shame the next beta weekend is on LAN weekend |
| 23:05.10 | Gnarfoz | where I have basically no internet |
| 23:05.28 | Gnarfoz | (also, shame that I wasted the entire day with other stuff :D) |
| 23:06.12 | nevcairiel | the game didn't really convince me yet |
| 23:08.36 | Stanzilla | for me it's mostly the fact that I'm already playing an mmo |
| 23:08.42 | Stanzilla | no time/space for 2 in my life |
| 23:19.45 | nevcairiel | your current mmo has no content for at least 6 months |
| 23:20.42 | Gnarfoz | advice chat is even worse than yesterday |
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