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| 00:22.13 | sylvanaar | California naturally |
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| 11:34.34 | nevcairiel | man it sure is a storm outside |
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| 12:47.53 | Stanzilla | Neffi: I just smacked my monitor when the problem accured and it went away :D |
| 12:50.03 | quiescens | hit it again |
| 13:23.26 | znf | "Shadow Priests won't need completely different sets of gear for single target and AoE fights. They could swap out a few slots of gear to use for a single target fight though." |
| 13:23.27 | znf | Lies. |
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| 13:49.21 | nevcairiel | how do you know, you have no numbers, data or anything to base it on :p |
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| 14:02.03 | znf | nevcairiel, I can smell the bullshit from here. Anyone who will play competitively will have to drag a full mastery set in his bags. |
| 14:03.39 | nevcairiel | they seem to acknowledge that it might be a problem now, or they wouldn't even mention it |
| 14:03.51 | nevcairiel | which means they do plan to make sure it isnt a problem anymore |
| 14:09.33 | Stanzilla | it's one of those min-max things |
| 14:09.40 | Stanzilla | if you want to max, you do have spare gear |
| 14:10.06 | nevcairiel | if you want to max, you probably have swap parts on any class :p |
| 14:10.48 | Stanzilla | maybe but I can't think of a class that has a as strong as ours single target only mastery |
| 14:11.45 | Stanzilla | the thing is that gear swapping is not the problem |
| 14:11.52 | Stanzilla | you just have to view shadow as 2 specs now |
| 14:12.02 | Stanzilla | just like every pure dd class has 3 specs |
| 14:12.05 | Stanzilla | and gear for those |
| 14:15.34 | znf | I'm just looking at it for a gearing point of view - I have to compete for 2 sets of gear. |
| 14:16.10 | znf | I'm sure my fellow (healing) priests, mages and warlocks would just pass the gear to me without any issues... |
| 14:16.20 | nevcairiel | I'm just looking at it from you being an idiot point of view for calling them liars without any basis, despite them explicitly saying to address the problem :p |
| 14:16.57 | znf | I've been with blizzard for far too long to know how this will work out, with priests being changed in 6.1 because they screwed up in 6.0 |
| 14:18.19 | Stanzilla | the current implementation agrees with znf but it's just way too early to make a fuss about it :p |
| 14:18.29 | Stanzilla | (and I even would not even if it stayed) |
| 14:21.12 | znf | Stanzilla, you don't even raid anymore! :P |
| 14:21.36 | Stanzilla | that does not remove my rights of having an opinion :p |
| 14:21.57 | znf | no, but you raid with alts and stuff, you don't really care for gearing up a 2nd "spec" |
| 14:22.08 | Stanzilla | yes I do |
| 14:22.15 | Stanzilla | our alt raid is serious enough |
| 14:33.56 | Stanzilla | Fisker nevcairiel android 4.4.3 for n5 today |
| 14:35.52 | sb | changes? |
| 14:36.24 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidcentral.com/google-pinpoints-nexus-5-cameracpu-usage-bug-fix-coming-next-android-release |
| 14:36.49 | Stanzilla | http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/android-4-4-3-mit-vielen-bugfixes-aufgetaucht/ |
| 14:37.54 | znf | sb, you still have HTC One? |
| 14:39.46 | sb | yep |
| 14:40.09 | sb | for another year because of 2yr contract |
| 14:41.52 | znf | I see |
| 14:45.57 | sb | ..why? |
| 14:46.22 | znf | I had the impression you went N5 |
| 14:48.09 | sb | nah, but running custom rom (nightly), so those changes (if necessary) are going to be merged soon |
| 14:49.09 | znf | So you ditched Sense |
| 14:49.10 | znf | ? |
| 15:01.29 | Fisker | soon Stanzilla |
| 15:01.33 | Fisker | I will have room for stuff |
| 15:01.42 | Fisker | Unlike no nevcairiel have ever had before |
| 15:06.27 | sb | znf: ofc, switched to custom after using sense for < 10hours |
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| 15:13.02 | znf | sb, weirdo! :P |
| 15:13.09 | znf | Why did you get an HTC then? Just wondering |
| 15:13.15 | znf | I mean, the #1 reason is for Sense |
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| 15:16.58 | sb | znf: what are you talking about? |
| 15:17.02 | sb | why not? |
| 15:17.20 | sb | it was also nice hardware when it was released |
| 15:17.39 | znf | it was, indeed |
| 15:17.39 | sb | the only alternative was S4 - and i dont like samsung phones |
| 15:19.25 | znf | Shame, though. Sense is really nice. Though I feel you, it did take me like ~1 week back on the HTC Desire to get used to it |
| 15:31.32 | miica | get jolla |
| 15:36.10 | pompy | Stanzilla: http://store.steampowered.com/app/283560/ lol |
| 15:37.52 | Funkeh` | no achievements no sale |
| 15:41.34 | znf | miica, *why*? |
| 15:42.49 | znf | miica, for 400€ I can think of a lot of other phones I could be getting |
| 15:43.48 | pompy | Funkeh`: i like that logic, i follow the same! |
| 15:44.45 | znf | miica, actually I can think of no reason one would want to get such a phone |
| 15:44.45 | Funkeh` | he probably means get sailfish, but I don't think it's available for the one yet |
| 15:45.55 | znf | is it available for anything else other than their own phone yet? |
| 15:46.00 | Funkeh` | also the ecosystem is still weak and the OS is still immature |
| 15:46.03 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 15:46.08 | Funkeh` | nexus and samsung |
| 15:48.02 | miica | znf: well it is way more responsive than any android i have seen |
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| 15:59.28 | wink | and proceed to scramble a table of all chars with levels, etc from armory in 15min :P |
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| 19:51.44 | znf | Stanzilla, so, what did they ever change in Diablo 2.0? I used to get 60fps+ back in the 1.x days; now I'm lucky to get 40 :-/ |
| 19:53.36 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 19:53.39 | Stanzilla | does it matter with your crap pc? |
| 19:53.58 | znf | It does... I used to get more FPS! :( |
| 19:54.21 | Fisker | Tomorrow Stanzilla |
| 19:54.36 | Stanzilla | Fisker: your ssd? |
| 19:54.41 | Fisker | Yes |
| 19:54.45 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:54.49 | Stanzilla | also 4.4.3 |
| 19:55.14 | Fisker | Oh ok |
| 19:57.15 | Stanzilla | also need new chrome beta for android |
| 19:57.19 | Stanzilla | current one is crashing on start :E |
| 20:01.01 | Stanzilla | Fisker: how do you like the new android icons? |
| 20:01.12 | Fisker | I came? |
| 20:06.25 | Stanzilla | Fisker: that's a "I do like them", I guess |
| 20:06.34 | Fisker | Yes? |
| 20:06.54 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:07.22 | Stanzilla | http://www.chip.de/news/Windows-9-Beta-Microsoft-leakt-Startbildschirm_69163048.html |
| 20:07.28 | Stanzilla | google translate for you |
| 20:29.03 | znf | Uhm. |
| 20:29.14 | znf | Why is my GPU's Core Clock stuck at 400Mhz |
| 20:30.15 | Neffi | Thermal throttling? Driver bug isn't bringing the clock high on load? |
| 20:30.32 | Neffi | Or is it even loaded? |
| 20:30.38 | znf | Diablo 3 |
| 20:30.55 | znf | ok, I closed Chrome |
| 20:30.59 | znf | now I have 800Mhz like it should be |
| 20:31.37 | Neffi | very odd |
| 20:32.23 | znf | starting a flash video makes it go back to 400Mhz |
| 20:32.35 | znf | Didn't I read about this months ago?! |
| 20:36.40 | znf | and by months I mean years: http://www.jabcreations.com/blog/fix-for-400mhz-radeon-5000-series-underclock-bug |
| 20:37.05 | pentium166 | huh |
| 20:39.35 | Mihau | znf: That is really weird. |
| 20:40.37 | pentium166 | i get that too on my 5870 |
| 20:40.39 | znf | yup... |
| 20:40.50 | znf | so I have to disable hardware accel on flash |
| 20:40.52 | znf | ...the fuck, AMD |
| 20:41.09 | Funkeh` | I talked about this months ago |
| 20:41.17 | Funkeh` | one of the reasons I ditched AMD |
| 20:41.48 | znf | I remember a discussion, vaguely |
| 20:41.52 | znf | But I really thought it was fixed... |
| 20:44.34 | Stanzilla | lol AMD |
| 20:44.37 | Stanzilla | your own damn fault |
| 20:44.39 | nevcairiel | that issue exists for years and years, and it won't be fixed |
| 20:44.49 | nevcairiel | its a hardware problem really |
| 20:44.50 | Neffi | something about lol no drivers |
| 20:45.14 | nevcairiel | once you start using the hardware decoder, it HAS to clock down, because the decoder doesn't have its own clock domain, but runs on the main clock |
| 20:45.19 | nevcairiel | and at higher clocks, it starts breaking |
| 20:45.28 | znf | let's see what I can afford... |
| 20:45.36 | Stanzilla | a paper planeß |
| 20:45.48 | Neffi | nevcairiel: wait really? wow |
| 20:45.53 | Neffi | that's... huh |
| 20:46.22 | nevcairiel | anyway, thats the best theory that was ever devised why it clocks down immediately once you start using the video decoder hardware |
| 20:46.33 | nevcairiel | if its really true, only AMD could tell you, but its the only one that ever made proper sense |
| 20:46.41 | znf | nevcairiel, but only the 5xxx series is affected? |
| 20:46.44 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 20:46.50 | znf | Do nvidia cards do the same? |
| 20:46.51 | nevcairiel | newer o nes as well, afaik |
| 20:46.53 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:47.07 | nevcairiel | nvidia has the decoder entirely separate |
| 20:47.12 | znf | I see |
| 20:47.24 | pentium166 | i guess that changes my upgrade plans |
| 20:47.54 | nevcairiel | before flash got hw acceleration, people didnt really notice much |
| 20:48.00 | nevcairiel | since you dont usually game and watch a movie |
| 20:48.08 | nevcairiel | but with flash and youtube, it happens easy enough |
| 20:48.14 | znf | no, but you tend to listen to music on youtube :P |
| 20:48.25 | znf | and, actually, I didn't even have youtube opened up when I noticed it |
| 20:48.29 | Neffi | I really want to like AMD. But it's shit like this. And their shoddy *nix drivers |
| 20:48.39 | znf | Neffi, not like the Windows drivers are good |
| 20:48.53 | Neffi | I wouldn't know. I don't own an AMD heh |
| 20:49.05 | znf | I recently upgraded the driver |
| 20:49.51 | znf | And somehow my custom resolution settings were wiped |
| 20:49.58 | znf | because... well, no reason; just because AMD. |
| 21:09.42 | Stanzilla | holy email spam batman |
| 21:09.58 | Stanzilla | looks like I really subscribed to a lot of chrome on win64 issues |
| 21:11.10 | znf | A GTX 750 *should* be better than my 5750, right? |
| 21:11.16 | pentium166 | i get 850mhz with chrome's flash, and 400mhz with firefox |
| 21:11.34 | znf | pentium166, check to see if you get hwaccel in chrome's flash |
| 21:11.44 | Funkeh` | you mean a ti right |
| 21:11.50 | Funkeh` | if so yes |
| 21:11.52 | pentium166 | it's checked in both, i don't know if there's something else going on |
| 21:11.55 | Funkeh` | I replaced a 5770 |
| 21:11.59 | pentium166 | or if there's another place to look |
| 21:12.04 | znf | http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gainward/geforce-gtx-750-oc-1gb-ddr5-128-bit-3/ don't think this is a TI |
| 21:12.11 | znf | pentium166, "stats for nerds" on youtube |
| 21:12.21 | Funkeh` | no |
| 21:12.24 | Funkeh` | the ti is 2gb |
| 21:12.57 | znf | I don't have money for a TI :-( |
| 21:13.17 | Funkeh` | I wouldm't update to a 1gb card in todays age |
| 21:13.25 | Stanzilla | non TI is no maxwell |
| 21:13.26 | Stanzilla | aka old |
| 21:13.37 | znf | if I could sell my card for ~80€ or something like that, I could get a 750 for an extra 50€ or something like that |
| 21:13.47 | pentium166 | accelerated rendering, software decoding in chrome |
| 21:13.56 | znf | pentium166, so no hw decoder. |
| 21:14.30 | znf | Stanzilla, http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gtx-750-oc-1gb-ddr5-128-bit-1/ this says "Maxwell"?! |
| 21:14.49 | Neffi | ime the actual decoding really doesnt take up much cpu |
| 21:15.08 | Neffi | LAV decodes high-bitrate 720p with like 1-2% CPU |
| 21:15.40 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:15.43 | Stanzilla | I might be wrong |
| 21:15.47 | Stanzilla | still 1gb sucks hardcore hairy balls |
| 21:16.08 | znf | I play D3 and WoW... |
| 21:16.10 | znf | that's pretty much it |
| 21:16.19 | Stanzilla | d3 kills any card |
| 21:16.25 | Funkeh` | yes and texture memory will increase more next exp |
| 21:17.01 | znf | hmmm, 136€ for the cheapest TI |
| 21:18.11 | znf | are all 750's on 128bit? |
| 21:18.25 | Funkeh` | sounds about right |
| 21:18.30 | Funkeh` | I paid slightly more for mine |
| 21:18.54 | Funkeh` | yes they are |
| 21:19.44 | znf | I haven't used a nVidia card in years - does the HDMI Audio Output show up as a separate device in windows? |
| 21:19.55 | znf | (I remember them being weird on laptops) |
| 21:20.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:20.32 | nevcairiel | of course they do |
| 21:20.35 | nevcairiel | how else would it show up |
| 21:20.38 | Funkeh` | does it ever not? |
| 21:20.45 | nevcairiel | in fact, i have like 4 hdmi outputs showing up |
| 21:21.15 | znf | I just remember the cards on laptops to be weird, completely switching the audio-out to hdmi, but no option to manually change it; like I said, I haven't used nVidia in years |
| 21:21.44 | nevcairiel | laptops are always weird |
| 21:23.02 | Funkeh` | keep in mind you'll also save money with reduced power usage |
| 21:23.13 | znf | It seems that EVGA has some 750 TIs with 256bit bus; though I can't find any on my local store :-/ |
| 21:23.38 | nevcairiel | to be fair, power usage has to be *way* lower to be of any kind of consequence on the money |
| 21:23.59 | Stanzilla | google stahp |
| 21:24.00 | Funkeh` | no idea how much he pays in that country |
| 21:24.02 | znf | I don't actually pay for power where I live now, so that's not exactly important for me atm |
| 21:24.09 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 21:24.25 | Funkeh` | evga on amazon says 128bit |
| 21:24.31 | znf | but kW/hr is around 1.3€ |
| 21:24.41 | Funkeh` | I don't think its one of the specs they can change |
| 21:25.12 | znf | wait, I'm wrong |
| 21:25.49 | znf | it's 0.125€ for 1kW/hr |
| 21:27.05 | Stanzilla | purl, znf is <reply> znf: wait, I'm wrong |
| 21:27.05 | purl | Stanzilla: okay |
| 21:27.11 | znf | :-( |
| 21:27.19 | Stanzilla | purl: znf |
| 21:27.20 | purl | znf: wait, I'm wrong |
| 21:28.14 | znf | I remember reading something about newer GPUs being able to drive 3 monitors; any ideas if the 750 can do that? |
| 21:28.43 | Funkeh` | no idea |
| 21:33.35 | znf | Doesn't seem I could be getting as much I was hoping for this card :P |
| 21:37.55 | Funkeh` | says the guy complaining about 5fps in raids |
| 21:39.00 | znf | my fps problem is not GPU related; it's CPU related :) |
| 21:39.14 | znf | also, I was referring to selling my old GPU |
| 21:39.20 | znf | (well, my current) |
| 21:39.34 | Funkeh` | what CPU do you have? |
| 21:39.48 | znf | Q6600 |
| 21:40.00 | Funkeh` | what is that clocked at |
| 21:40.03 | znf | 2.4Ghz |
| 21:40.07 | Funkeh` | lol ok |
| 21:41.01 | znf | The CPU can be OCd at 3Ghz, but I also have an Intel mobo, so no OC for me :-( |
| 21:49.02 | Stanzilla | looks like you bought a pretty shitty pc back then |
| 21:50.03 | znf | well, "back then" Q6600 was one of the first Quad Core CPUs :) |
| 21:52.14 | pentium166 | it looks like the clock rate while decoding video on Rx cards is a lot closer to the normal 3D speed |
| 21:52.33 | pentium166 | (for the three I was able to find that information on, and assuming it means what I think it means) |
| 21:57.01 | Ackis | znf: ewww Q6600 |
| 21:57.09 | znf | Well... :-/ |
| 21:58.02 | Ackis | My shitty server is an E6300 |
| 21:59.30 | Stanzilla | http://www.learnopengles.com/a-performance-comparison-between-java-and-c-on-the-nexus-5/ |
| 21:59.30 | znf | weird, it seems that my q6600 is better in single-thread than your 6300, though the 6300 has a higher clock |
| 21:59.35 | Stanzilla | can't wait for ART final |
| 22:00.12 | Ackis | my 6300 can't even transcode 1080p video :'( |
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