| 00:00.04 | Gnarfoz | I guess I won't finish *that* quest :D |
| 00:01.03 | Stanzilla | morning |
| 00:01.17 | Gnarfoz | moin |
| 00:02.00 | Stanzilla | evening naps are teh evil |
| 00:03.50 | Sinaloit | False statement, I just took one and I counter with they are made of pure awesome |
| 00:05.49 | Stanzilla | well depends on what your goals are |
| 00:06.13 | Megalon | napping is the goal |
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| 00:06.49 | Megalon | sweet sweet slumber of the just! |
| 00:12.16 | Stanzilla | my goal was to be awake for GoT :D |
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| 00:17.09 | Sinaloit | I agree then, sleeping and being awake are definitely not compatible goals |
| 00:17.28 | Sinaloit | Unless you are doing LFR maybe and can sleep raid? |
| 00:24.41 | Megalon | unless you switch to powernap mode soon, you'll be good to go Stanzilla |
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| 00:35.52 | Stanzilla | nebula169: did you see how oscarub trashtalks your bigbrother branch? |
| 00:36.05 | nebula169 | i have, he's an idiot, though |
| 00:37.28 | nebula169 | haven't seen anything recent, i guess, last was talking up his horribly broken cc detection |
| 00:38.56 | Stanzilla | yeah I just saw some of the comments when looking for your branch to download |
| 00:39.27 | Stanzilla | how hard would it be to add a message when someone puts down a noodle wagon btw? |
| 00:39.42 | nebula169 | not very, pretty sure i added that |
| 00:40.17 | nebula169 | oh, must be on my laptop >.> |
| 00:40.22 | Stanzilla | :D |
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| 00:40.41 | Stanzilla | must be, I tested! |
| 00:42.36 | Stanzilla | Torhal: will the new CF still have the option for more than one repo per project? |
| 00:45.04 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Not as it is now. |
| 00:45.13 | Torhal | Still rough-draftish. |
| 00:45.50 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 00:45.50 | nebula169 | weird, i remember logging noodle carts to figure out how they work, and testing it, but i can't find any code for it |
| 00:46.12 | Stanzilla | Torhal: what will happen to those projects that have that atm |
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| 00:46.27 | Torhal | They'll be migrated like everything else. |
| 00:47.10 | Stanzilla | Torhal: will we get pull requests and forks like on github? |
| 00:47.11 | nebula169 | better question is what happens to the forks |
| 00:47.52 | Torhal | nebula169: They'll still exist, AFAIK, just not the way they are now. |
| 00:47.56 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Unknown at this point. |
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| 00:48.46 | Arrowmaster | new CF? |
| 00:48.50 | Stanzilla | Torhal: should do that |
| 00:48.51 | Arrowmaster | why not a new curse.com |
| 00:49.28 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: That's coming as well, but we needed a new CF for better tools and workflows. Not everything follows the WoW model. |
| 00:49.58 | Arrowmaster | any of this related to the recent KSP partnership? |
| 00:50.11 | Arrowmaster | need much better tools to handle KSP now |
| 00:50.43 | Megalon | follows his Torhal model |
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| 00:50.45 | Torhal | Nah, KSP came after we started the new platform. It has, however, added some new focus. |
| 00:50.56 | Torhal | dumps Megalon into a vat of chicken. |
| 00:50.57 | Megalon | 3d printed it myself, tiny little torhal, exploring the world |
| 00:51.51 | Arrowmaster | what are these changed to premium they were talking about with the KSP announcement? |
| 00:54.13 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 00:54.50 | Arrowmaster | the guys from squad were implying that a lot of the premium only features would be coming to non premium accounts |
| 00:55.05 | Torhal | Hell if I know. |
| 00:55.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah i didnt think they where in a position to be making those statements |
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| 00:58.04 | Stanzilla | You've got a great point, Stanzilla. |
| 00:58.04 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.04 | Stanzilla | The wheels are turning regarding this point of feedback. I've dug a bit deeper and it turns out that some members of the team feel very similarly to you. |
| 00:58.06 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 00:58.15 | Stanzilla | swiftkey guys listening |
| 00:58.33 | Megalon | LIGHT THE BONFIRE |
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| 01:16.36 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: oooh, i added it bw_commonauras |
| 01:20.40 | Repo | big-brother: 03nebula169 06ace3dev * r359 (2 files in 1 directory): Alerts: add Noodle Carts |
| 01:26.24 | Stanzilla | nebula169: ah! :) thanks |
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| 01:45.52 | quiescens | moo |
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| 04:04.34 | Stanzilla | Fisker: are you going to blizzcon this year? |
| 04:04.44 | Fisker | idk are you Stanzilla ? |
| 04:04.56 | Stanzilla | no |
| 04:05.14 | Fisker | Then what does it matter? |
| 04:06.22 | Stanzilla | o.o |
| 04:09.29 | Fisker | hi Stanzilla |
| 04:12.33 | Fisker | why do you want to know? |
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| 04:14.08 | Stanzilla | why wouldn't I |
| 04:14.49 | quiescens | o.o |
| 04:16.18 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 04:17.50 | Fisker | reason not accepted |
| 04:17.56 | Fisker | but yes |
| 04:41.06 | Stanzilla | Fisker: cool! |
| 04:41.45 | Fisker | no |
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| 04:43.52 | Stanzilla | why not |
| 04:44.21 | Fisker | why? |
| 04:44.25 | Fisker | You should go |
| 04:55.54 | Stanzilla | too expensive atm |
| 04:56.47 | Fisker | nope Stanzilla |
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| 05:28.02 | Fisker | Hey Stanzilla |
| 05:28.34 | Fisker | 6 weeks until moto 360, android TV and HTC nexus tablet |
| 05:28.55 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 05:29.08 | Fisker | Gonna be sexpensive |
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| 05:33.27 | Fisker | I'm guessing 299, 349 and 99 |
| 05:33.52 | Fisker | So 750 euro :o |
| 05:34.10 | Fisker | Just spent more on a trip to the land of the free though |
| 05:36.41 | Stanzilla | guess I'm lucky that I can't stand watches :D |
| 05:36.44 | Stanzilla | saved money! |
| 05:38.22 | Fisker | You'd be surprised |
| 05:38.33 | Fisker | I'll buy 2 and get you one |
| 05:39.06 | Fisker | First ones free |
| 05:39.28 | Stanzilla | what |
| 05:39.41 | Fisker | Yes |
| 05:40.02 | Stanzilla | o,o |
| 05:40.16 | Fisker | I'm kidding obviously |
| 05:40.18 | Fisker | Maybe |
| 05:40.25 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 05:41.49 | nebula169 | is there a bash command to reset the terminal and re-source all it's conf files? |
| 05:43.17 | Fisker | Wat |
| 05:43.51 | Fisker | Ah |
| 05:43.51 | Stanzilla | like reloading the conf file? |
| 05:43.59 | Fisker | Idk |
| 05:44.12 | Fisker | Google it? |
| 05:44.32 | Fisker | Work :( |
| 05:44.39 | nebula169 | i tried |
| 05:44.45 | nebula169 | failed, asked here |
| 05:45.12 | Stanzilla | needs more context :D |
| 05:48.35 | Neffi_ | clear & source ~/.bashrc ? |
| 05:50.36 | Neffi_ | A Google search suggests that's it. There's no "better" way to coerce all Bash instances into reloading all of their config, because it's not considered proper form for Bash to support this, like some daemons would |
| 05:53.01 | Neffi_ | nebula169: ^ source .bash_profile if you modified that, obviously. Most sane defaults have .bash_profile source .bashrc, so just sourcing the former should re-apply all configs. .bash_profile is what gets loaded at login; .bashrc is what gets loaded when you open a new shell |
| 05:59.14 | Neffi_ | clear; source ~/.bashrc * & forks. my bad |
| 06:29.00 | quiescens | why do you need to clear anyway? |
| 06:40.26 | nebula169 | i was just fu |
| 06:40.45 | nebula169 | erm, i was just fucking with the prompt and checking with screen, thought there must be a better way |
| 06:41.10 | nebula169 | as soon as a type "re-source" i realized i was an idiot, lol |
| 06:46.31 | sb | morning |
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| 08:01.47 | znf | Stanzilla, what's the deal with DP in WoD? |
| 08:02.39 | znf | Stanzilla, the tooltip lost it's "damage and healing increased based on the number of Shadow Orbs"; question is - is that tooltip dynamic? |
| 08:02.55 | znf | it says 300% initial then 100% over 6sec |
| 08:03.06 | znf | I wonder if 3 orbs mean 900% initial and 300% over 6 sec |
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| 08:16.34 | Fisker | hey hey hey Stanzilla |
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| 09:31.45 | Workfoz | grabbed another 8 GiB RAM \o/ |
| 09:32.27 | Workfoz | considered getting 16 GiB for a moment, but I don't think I'll need 24 GiB total before the next CPU/MB refresh anyway, which will bring DDR4 ;-) |
| 09:32.41 | nevcairiel | ram is cheap |
| 09:32.44 | nebula169 | ^ |
| 09:32.49 | nevcairiel | i haz 32gib! |
| 09:34.04 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:34.06 | nevcairiel | 16 would probably be enough, even when i run all my development stuff, including a VM, it barely reaches that, but now i have plenty of space for windows to buffer things |
| 09:34.13 | quiescens | i haev 16 |
| 09:34.31 | quiescens | i find windoze doesn't end up using very much of it as cache anyway |
| 09:34.40 | quiescens | it seems pretty bad at it |
| 09:34.56 | nevcairiel | with 16gb it should use it completely for cache |
| 09:35.03 | nevcairiel | with my 32gb it doesnt manage to fill it completely |
| 09:35.09 | quiescens | it rarely uses more than 1gb |
| 09:35.27 | nevcairiel | i have 12gb cache right now |
| 09:35.55 | quiescens | cache working set is currently |
| 09:35.57 | quiescens | 557mb |
| 09:35.58 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 09:37.29 | quiescens | which windoze are you using? |
| 09:37.33 | quiescens | did you play with any settings? |
| 09:37.49 | nevcairiel | just plain 8.1 |
| 09:38.08 | quiescens | i'm using 7 at the moment |
| 09:38.11 | quiescens | maybe its gotten better |
| 09:39.14 | nevcairiel | my server box managed to fill its entire memory, with 12gb used and 20gb in cache right now |
| 09:39.36 | quiescens | i have 5.86gb used, 554mb cache |
| 09:39.37 | quiescens | lol |
| 09:39.42 | quiescens | so probably 10gb free? |
| 09:47.16 | sb | Stanzilla: giev new gmail |
| 09:47.20 | Workfoz | "RAM is cheap" is not as true as it was a couple of years ago, 8 GB is 70€ |
| 09:48.24 | quiescens | i'm vaguely sure windows still really only caches relatively small files |
| 09:48.27 | Workfoz | also, my win 8.1 also gobbles up all memory it can use, it leaves about 1 GB "free" usually, the rest, minus the actual in use part, is cache |
| 09:48.38 | Workfoz | I'm vaguely sure it's a block cache like under linux |
| 09:48.48 | quiescens | maybe i should upgrade to 8.1 |
| 09:49.16 | quiescens | but but i like having everything on my computer be familiar ): |
| 09:49.25 | nevcairiel | Workfoz: my 32 were like 200, your 8 seem mildly too expensive |
| 09:49.25 | Workfoz | change is baaaad |
| 09:49.35 | quiescens | gives workfoz a cookie |
| 09:49.50 | nevcairiel | but if those 8 are 4gb modules, i guess bigger modules might actually be cheaper these days |
| 09:50.01 | quiescens | full file cache was silly with so many games storing their data in one big file |
| 09:50.02 | quiescens | lol |
| 09:50.30 | nevcairiel | wonder how much ddr4 will cost |
| 09:50.33 | Workfoz | you could probably inspect what's actually in the cache, with RAMmap or something |
| 09:50.38 | nevcairiel | i still kinda plan to get a haswell-e, which would include that |
| 09:54.12 | Workfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, my kit is quite a bit above the cheapest €/GiB price, lowest is 6.36€/GiB (which is a DDR3-2133 CL10 32 GiB kit), mine is at 8.48€/GiB (DDR3-1600 CL9 8 GiB kit) |
| 09:54.38 | Workfoz | but why would I replace my entire RAM :p I still spent less money this way ;-) |
| 09:54.42 | nevcairiel | i got 2133 cl9, curios that was a bit cheaper still |
| 09:55.16 | Workfoz | must have been on sale, it's not cheaper anymore |
| 09:55.30 | Workfoz | http://geizhals.de/?cat=ramddr3&sort=r&xf=2216_DDR3~253_32768~1454_8192#xf_top |
| 09:56.20 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:56.34 | nevcairiel | maybe it was |
| 09:59.49 | quiescens | i got my 16 for about 180 aud or something |
| 09:59.51 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:02.24 | Workfoz | AUD is monopoly money anyway |
| 10:02.38 | Workfoz | Or well, the prices are |
| 10:03.09 | quiescens | ): |
| 10:03.10 | nevcairiel | the moneyl ooks like it, too, though |
| 10:03.56 | quiescens | our prices are mostly ridiculous |
| 10:04.19 | Workfoz | Plastic money war gegen ihn, er war ein Rock-Idol |
| 10:04.26 | quiescens | half the time its cheaper to buy stuff and have it shipped internationally directly to your front door, than it is to go buy it from a local shop |
| 10:04.28 | Workfoz | Megalon!! |
| 10:04.52 | quiescens | plastic moneys are good |
| 10:04.57 | quiescens | your paper moneys are archaic and weak |
| 10:19.44 | Workfoz | it was a (apparently, quite garbled, I blame the Austrian accent!) lyric line from Falco's Rock Me Amadeus |
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| 10:22.49 | sb | http://www.golem.de/news/urteil-privates-surfen-am-arbeitsplatz-kein-kuendigungsgrund-1405-106404.html |
| 10:22.54 | sb | yay - porn at work! |
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| 10:37.54 | Workfoz | someone remind me |
| 10:38.17 | Workfoz | what does my i7 2600k do when I pair it with DDR3-1600 RAM? it only supports 1033/1333 officially |
| 10:38.22 | Workfoz | divider? oc? |
| 10:38.34 | Workfoz | probably the former, but I don't think I actually know :D |
| 10:39.37 | quiescens | by default it probably just runs it at 1333 |
| 10:39.53 | quiescens | unless you have a motherboard that does stuff |
| 10:40.02 | Workfoz | oO |
| 10:40.10 | Workfoz | well, I meant pairing + setting it approrpiately |
| 10:40.35 | Workfoz | who buys stuff, plugs it in and leaves it at default settings without even looking? :p |
| 10:40.54 | Workfoz | anyway, these don't even require manual settings, they have an XMP profile for it anyway |
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| 10:43.38 | chiel | morning |
| 10:43.42 | Workfoz | morning |
| 10:43.50 | Workfoz | ah, CPU-Z displays |
| 10:43.50 | Workfoz | it |
| 10:43.56 | Workfoz | 1:6 divider |
| 10:44.00 | quiescens | plug it in and find out! |
| 10:44.09 | Workfoz | it's been plugged in for 4 years :D |
| 10:44.32 | quiescens | i think the ram should have spd profiles for a couple speeds anymoo |
| 10:44.47 | Workfoz | XMP is SPD on drugs |
| 10:45.16 | Workfoz | (none of the SPD profiles specify 1600, though, they're all slower) |
| 10:45.28 | chiel | has anyone here come close to achieving pixel-perfection in their UI yet, what with the screwed up implementation of the interface code and all? |
| 10:45.41 | Workfoz | that's a rather loaded question? :p |
| 10:45.51 | chiel | i tried just setting the UIParent's scale, but since I have a 2560x1440 resolution everything is so... tiny |
| 10:46.06 | Workfoz | just turn off UI scaling and you're good to go, everything is 1:1 then |
| 10:46.14 | Workfoz | (nowadays, that is, it didn't use to be) |
| 10:46.20 | chiel | hmm really? |
| 10:46.22 | Workfoz | yes |
| 10:46.26 | chiel | still seems like sometimes spacing etc is messed up |
| 10:46.40 | chiel | like 1px turning into 2px, borders becoming too thing, things like that |
| 10:46.50 | Workfoz | probably the addon's fault |
| 10:46.59 | chiel | hmm fair enough |
| 10:47.01 | Workfoz | the foundation should be there to achieve 1:1 pixel mapping these days |
| 10:47.09 | chiel | happens in weakauras |
| 10:47.14 | quiescens | the spd thingies are probably listed by the base rate |
| 10:47.43 | Workfoz | back in the day you used to have to calculate the appropriate UIscale for your resolution manually, and even then it sometimes didn't work? |
| 10:47.50 | Workfoz | there's a thread about it on wowi somewhere |
| 10:48.03 | chiel | without setting any scale or anything, but maybe it's not aligning on a pixel grid properly |
| 10:48.16 | chiel | anchor point was set to center, maybe it should be attached to top instead or so |
| 10:48.25 | chiel | and yea, i recall having to do that |
| 10:48.27 | chiel | superhappyfuntimes |
| 10:50.30 | Workfoz | interesting, apparently there are problems with that with very high resolutions http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info20266-UIScaler.html but... I thought turning off UIscale solved all of those problems these days |
| 10:50.40 | quiescens | workfoz: anyway, it probably depends on what your motherboard decides to do \o/ |
| 10:50.40 | Workfoz | meaning, that addon is only useful if you have UIscale turned on |
| 10:51.55 | Workfoz | hey, I even posted in that thread: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=209543#post209543 |
| 10:52.09 | quiescens | maybe it wasn't you |
| 10:52.30 | Workfoz | quiescens: that's what I meant, this is not something you "let something decide" |
| 10:52.48 | quiescens | why not! |
| 10:53.06 | Workfoz | because that's what people who go to wal-mart and buy Dells do |
| 10:53.59 | quiescens | why do you care what it does by default if you don't plan to let it do whatever it does by default? |
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| 10:54.04 | Workfoz | ehhh? |
| 10:54.14 | Workfoz | I'm saying it doesn't *depend* on my mainboard |
| 10:54.17 | Workfoz | because I control what it does |
| 10:57.47 | sb | i has tired |
| 10:57.59 | chiel | Workfoz: yea, i tried that UIScaler thing |
| 10:57.59 | quiescens | pats sb |
| 10:58.20 | chiel | but the problem with having such a high resolution is that the rest of your UI (character pane and shit like that) just becomes really tiny |
| 10:59.31 | chiel | i was thinking maybe of just making one frame in an addon and setting the scale on that, and then i can just move about freely inside that frame, so to speak |
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| 11:14.22 | Workfoz | yeah, the default UI can't really cope with high resolutions - well, it does, but it only does when your screen grows as the resolution increases :p |
| 11:15.14 | Workfoz | if 1x1 of your 1440p pixels is as big as it is on a 19" 1280x1024 screen, then the blizz ui will be the same size! :D |
| 11:19.31 | nevcairiel | the default UI only does 1:1 pixel scaling up to 1200p though, anything above hits the limit of what the UI scale can do |
| 11:19.58 | nevcairiel | since it maxes out at 0.64 |
| 11:23.40 | Workfoz | even with UIscale off? |
| 11:23.45 | Workfoz | like we were talking about in the first place :o |
| 11:23.48 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:24.00 | Workfoz | why is the UI scale relevant when it's turned off >_> |
| 11:24.17 | nevcairiel | off doesn't mean no scale, it means automatic scale, really |
| 11:24.44 | nevcairiel | still tops out at 0.64 |
| 11:25.41 | nevcairiel | on my 1600p screen, going to pixel-perfect through manual hacks makes it look rather tiny though, so it wouldn't be worth it |
| 11:26.05 | chiel | yea, the UIScaler addon thingy allows you go lower, but like i said, all the panels (quests, character, rep, etc etc) are all way too tiny |
| 11:26.18 | chiel | i guess my ocd will have to go fuck itself, or something |
| 11:27.08 | nevcairiel | thats the fate of high dpi screens, pixel perfect gets harder .. or well, smaller! |
| 11:27.12 | chiel | haha |
| 11:27.17 | chiel | yea, suppose so |
| 11:27.36 | chiel | don't really feel like setting UIscale smaller and then having to resize aaaall the panels |
| 11:27.43 | chiel | especially since they're loaded on-demand |
| 11:27.53 | chiel | which means, i guess, that you have to hook an event to do the resizing |
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| 11:45.59 | chiel | i wish they would overhaul the UI stuff for WoD :p |
| 12:01.57 | quiescens | effort |
| 12:09.11 | nebula169 | overhaul how? |
| 12:09.34 | nevcairiel | you know, break all addons, start from scratch |
| 12:11.39 | chiel | yea, effort |
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| 12:19.57 | Stanzilla | sup |
| 12:21.26 | sb | so guys (nev, stan, foz, etc.) - wildstar? what are your impressions? |
| 12:21.39 | bluipodcow | *noms quiescens* |
| 12:21.55 | sb | a friend told me he doesnt like it - feels like an endless goblin start quest line |
| 12:23.14 | Stanzilla | I'm burned out on MMOs |
| 12:23.41 | Stanzilla | but compared to the other shit I tested, it looks and feels really good |
| 12:23.55 | Stanzilla | but questing/levelling takes too long |
| 12:27.29 | nevcairiel | it seems OK, but it doesn't have the addiction factor for me that WoW still manages to wake |
| 12:37.47 | Stanzilla | that, for me, comes from having such a long history with the characters and the urge to perfect them |
| 12:38.00 | nevcairiel | i guess it might |
| 12:38.17 | nevcairiel | never really tried to figure out how that works .p |
| 12:39.40 | Stanzilla | yesterday I noticed that my questlog on the hunter is full so I started doing random quests |
| 12:39.55 | Stanzilla | found some cool ones in dread wastes that I've never done or don't remember |
| 12:40.27 | nevcairiel | same thing happened on my hunter, first char i finished dread waste completely with |
| 12:40.34 | nevcairiel | did them afterwards on my druid, tho |
| 12:40.55 | Stanzilla | yeah I need to check if I already did them and just forgot about it on my priest |
| 12:42.10 | sb | i did entire dread wastes with my priest - and had about 500k XP to maxlvl (skipped 2 zones + half of kun-lai) :D (realm first leveling stuff) |
| 12:42.45 | nevcairiel | these days you can skip 2 zones and still hit max level long before dread waste |
| 12:42.54 | nevcairiel | although i kinda like the story in all the zones |
| 12:43.12 | nevcairiel | maybe except jade forest, its kinda boring |
| 12:43.26 | sb | yup, i know :o |
| 12:43.45 | quiescens | o.o |
| 12:43.49 | quiescens | givs bluipodcow a cookie |
| 12:44.12 | sb | "Changelog Droid" is pretty nice |
| 12:44.25 | sb | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cypressworks.changelogviewer |
| 12:44.39 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.50 | Stanzilla | sb: and then facebook and google come along and do "bug fixes" |
| 12:45.05 | quiescens | honestly its not really the length of time it takes to level that ends up being annoying in mmo's, its really only if it ends up with parts where you have no quests of appropriate level or very limited in choice |
| 12:45.56 | sb | Stanzilla: quizduell :D |
| 12:45.56 | nevcairiel | well with the level span only being 5 levels, you had a lot of choice since you could easily skip one or two zones |
| 12:45.58 | Stanzilla | I like questing on max level but not for levelling |
| 12:46.23 | nevcairiel | with 10 levels, you can probably still skip one zone, but two of the bat will probably give you troubles |
| 12:48.06 | quiescens | in wow, back in the day, the annoying parts of levelling were when you did every quest in the area, and then you had like, 1 quest here, 1 quest there with no particular kind of.. flow |
| 12:48.25 | nevcairiel | they fixed that a very long time ago though |
| 12:48.43 | nevcairiel | starting in wrath you had bigger hubs and breadcrumbs that connected them |
| 12:49.18 | quiescens | i'm just saying, its probably that broken flow that tends to cause the "slow levelling" feel in mmos more so than actual levelling speed |
| 12:49.45 | quiescens | when people hand in a quest and then sit there having to actually think about what they could possibly do next |
| 12:49.50 | quiescens | lol |
| 12:50.43 | nevcairiel | well some games are more of an adventure style where you have to read a map and just venture to the next town without someone sending you there, but i guess that doesn't work for everyone |
| 12:51.22 | quiescens | oh that's fine too, i don |
| 12:51.31 | quiescens | i don't mean it has to tell you where to go exactly |
| 12:51.33 | nevcairiel | thats not a problem i had in wildstar though, there was always stuff to do |
| 12:51.39 | quiescens | but there has to be somewhere to go |
| 12:51.50 | quiescens | without having to *find* somewhere to go |
| 12:51.52 | nevcairiel | but it just didn't really pull me into the story |
| 12:52.45 | nevcairiel | maybe its just being burned out, or something, i dunno |
| 12:53.55 | nevcairiel | when I initially played SWTOR, I really liked it and the story and questing really had me coming back. But it lost its appeal later as it failed to offer variation and everything pretty much felt the same (not to mention that it felt like a glorified single player game) |
| 12:54.07 | nevcairiel | with wildstar I don't even get that motivation boost at the beginning |
| 12:54.24 | quiescens | lol |
| 12:54.46 | quiescens | i basically only play games that i can get a group to play these days |
| 12:55.16 | nevcairiel | these days i really just play a bit of DOTA2 with a couple friends, never alone |
| 12:55.45 | quiescens | \o/ |
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| 13:22.28 | chiel | i'm actually really looking forward to WoD |
| 13:22.34 | chiel | but I just had a 1,5 year break from wow |
| 13:22.37 | chiel | until about 2 weeks ago |
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| 14:01.15 | Workfoz | sb: I like it so far, but I've been procrastinating playing it, just like I currently do for WoW; I doubt it's the game's fault ;-) Also it still does deserves the "beta" label, because there's some quite obvious bugs left and there's serious performance issues; on the flipside: that might change still until release. They have a ~700 bugfix patch in the |
| 14:01.16 | Workfoz | pipeline that's still going through QA :D |
| 14:01.46 | Workfoz | also, it's quite overwhelming because several systems are not straight copies from WoW |
| 14:02.19 | Workfoz | so you have to actually pay attention, read, and can't breeze right through it (which some people in here find "annoying as fuck", "retarded" and so forth ;P) |
| 14:02.30 | chiel | haha |
| 14:02.45 | chiel | that shit better be indicated on the map! ;o |
| 14:03.29 | Workfoz | quest objectives? yeah, those are easy enough to find, they basically have tomtom 3d arrow built in |
| 14:03.42 | chiel | yea i was being sarcastic haha |
| 14:03.47 | chiel | i don't mind reading quests that much |
| 14:04.09 | chiel | i remember there was that addon (i forgot the name) which basically did all that shit, before blizzard added their own quest indicator stuff |
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| 14:04.37 | Ressy | questhelper? |
| 14:04.38 | Workfoz | QuestHelper |
| 14:04.39 | sb | Workfoz: some people in here - you mean znf, right? :D |
| 14:04.45 | Workfoz | sb: I'd never...! :D |
| 14:04.49 | chiel | ah right, that name couldn't even be more obvious |
| 14:04.55 | Ressy | :) |
| 14:05.40 | Workfoz | quests are not that problematic, but they introduce new systems, like adventures, by just popping up a tutorial that doesn't necessarily qualify as "thorough" |
| 14:05.49 | Workfoz | and it might even happen while you're fighting some mobs |
| 14:05.58 | Workfoz | so you close it because you can't see anything :D |
| 14:06.15 | Workfoz | that experience could certainly be improved, such stuff should be delayed until you're out of combat |
| 14:06.31 | Workfoz | or whatever, the example might be exaggerated |
| 14:06.58 | Workfoz | anyway, they throw a lot of stuff at you in the first ~15 levels or so, so you do have to pay attention |
| 14:07.38 | Workfoz | after that, the frequency of "hey, BATTLEGROUNDS!" and "hey, dungeons!", and "hey, tradeskills", "hey, talents!", "hey, adventures!", "hey, housing!" etc tapers off a bit ;) |
| 14:08.08 | chiel | haha |
| 14:08.13 | chiel | well i don't even know that game |
| 14:08.22 | chiel | but wow already takes up enough time now |
| 14:08.28 | chiel | and i only just started playing again |
| 14:08.38 | chiel | trying not to be shit at brewmaster |
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| 16:23.36 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11763 Core/BossPrototype.lua: |
| 16:23.37 | Repo | BossPrototype: Don't just die after printing an invalid id. Print them all and process any that are valid. |
| 16:24.30 | Repo | bigwigs_wrathofthelichking: 03funkydude * r33 Northrend/Halion.lua: Halion: comment out invalid spell ids. |
| 16:41.31 | znf | Workfoz, reading is for the scenery! |
| 16:41.36 | znf | I don't play a MMO for the scenery! |
| 16:42.49 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 16:43.05 | Workfoz | Go play Tetris if you need instant gratification ¬_¬ |
| 16:43.10 | Workfoz | Also, http://imgur.com/xbWRDPU |
| 16:43.10 | quiescens | maybe its really pretty scenery |
| 16:44.00 | quiescens | one of those seems out of order |
| 16:44.02 | quiescens | you should fix it |
| 16:44.11 | znf | uuuuh |
| 16:44.12 | znf | 99% |
| 16:44.14 | znf | drools |
| 16:44.39 | Repo | decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.7.3.1-4-gb7ee889 Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua: [+1 commit] Fix rounding issues preventing the MUFs' handle and the help tool-tip from being repositioned properly when at the top of the screen and scale is not 100% |
| 16:47.38 | Humbedooh | has 100%... |
| 16:49.46 | quiescens | blames humbedooh |
| 16:54.58 | Humbedooh | hands quiescens a fork |
| 16:55.16 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:55.21 | quiescens | pokes humbedooh with it |
| 16:55.28 | Humbedooh | stabs back |
| 16:55.42 | quiescens | dies. |
| 16:55.43 | Humbedooh | \o/ |
| 17:02.51 | znf | bah, what the hell is the yum equivalent of apt-get purge ? |
| 17:04.52 | Humbedooh | there is none |
| 17:05.04 | znf | fuckin' rpm shit |
| 17:07.35 | quiescens | purge often doesn't end up doing what people think it will anyway |
| 17:07.46 | Humbedooh | shup, you're dead |
| 17:07.48 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 17:09.04 | znf | quiescens, ofc it does! |
| 17:09.13 | znf | removes the config files I edited! I like that. Keep doing that. |
| 17:18.52 | quiescens | it doesn't work so well with stuff that uses configuration directories where you tend to create extra files with your config directives rather than editting existing ones, also doesn't work with user stuff |
| 17:19.16 | quiescens | which makes sense well enough, just sometimes people don't think about it |
| 17:20.08 | Humbedooh | not everyone is a quiescens |
| 17:23.18 | quiescens | goto sleep humbedooh ): |
| 17:23.32 | Humbedooh | :( |
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| 17:30.06 | bluipodcow | Nope |
| 17:30.19 | bluipodcow | Sleep with me quiescens |
| 17:31.19 | znf | quiescens, well, I wouldn't want it to remove the vhosts I made under /etc/apache/sites-available anyway |
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| 17:44.58 | znf | I should have ignored him. I should have ignored him. I should have ignored him. I should have ignored him. |
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| 18:11.29 | Gnarfoz | I hate ants |
| 18:11.38 | Gnarfoz | *cue that's how you get ants meme* |
| 18:30.29 | Stanzilla | Nexus6s Fisker |
| 18:30.41 | znf | iphones Stanzilla |
| 18:30.50 | Fisker | Why Stanzilla ? |
| 18:30.55 | Stanzilla | just because |
| 18:31.08 | Stanzilla | I hope the screen won't be too big |
| 18:31.25 | znf | I hope it's 8 inches |
| 18:31.35 | Megalon | that's what she said |
| 18:31.50 | znf | too bad most women don't really grasp what 8 inches is :D |
| 18:39.31 | Stanzilla | 8 inches is fucking huge |
| 18:39.46 | znf | yes it is |
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| 19:11.08 | Stanzilla | nebula169: oscarub deleted my comment |
| 19:11.11 | Stanzilla | where I linked your fork |
| 19:11.12 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 19:12.16 | znf | Stanzilla, is Vendor A nVidia? |
| 19:12.22 | Stanzilla | what |
| 19:12.39 | znf | http://richg42.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-truth-on-opengl-driver-quality.html on this thing you linked |
| 19:12.52 | znf | oh |
| 19:12.52 | znf | wait |
| 19:12.53 | znf | you didn't |
| 19:12.54 | znf | my bad |
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| 20:53.05 | Gnarfoz | znf: I don't know how anything else than A=nvidia, B=amd, C=intel would fit |
| 21:13.41 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, that's funny. The main reason he pissed me off in the first place is he started linking some of his addons on my pages |
| 21:13.58 | Stanzilla | I just posted it again |
| 21:19.48 | Funkeh` | don't be an ass |
| 21:23.26 | Stanzilla | I'm not |
| 21:23.38 | Stanzilla | there were people asking for an updated ace3 version and I linked it |
| 21:23.41 | Stanzilla | that is not being an ass :< |
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| 21:59.49 | Funkeh` | well shit |
| 21:59.54 | Funkeh` | totally forgot about GoT |
| 22:10.31 | Megalon | you totally forGoT |
| 22:20.58 | Repo | raidbuffstatus: 03oscarucb * r679 Core.lua: don't hide the Scan button in combat mode |
| 22:21.35 | znf | Gnarfoz, thought the same |
| 22:21.57 | znf | Gnarfoz, also when I asked, the comment stating that wasn't there :P |
| 22:28.33 | znf | wow, rizon, the irc network, offers "colored vhosts" |
| 22:28.44 | znf | Probably the silliest thing I ever heard |
| 22:28.45 | Gnarfoz | gotta innovate |
| 22:29.15 | znf | if by innovate you mean "gotta try breaking irc clients", then yeah |
| 22:30.00 | znf | I'm going to guess that as a coder, color codes in the hostname of a person is the last place where you would expect such a thing |
| 22:30.21 | znf | I wonder if that breaks xchat's context menu |
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| 22:57.04 | Stanzilla | anyone watched the tv show "salem" yet? |
| 22:57.14 | Stanzilla | just finished the first episode and it's meh |
| 22:57.20 | znf | I watched the 1st episode |
| 22:57.27 | znf | fella sleep trough the 2nd one (for real) |
| 22:59.10 | Megalon | true detectives started off boring too :P |
| 23:00.19 | Stanzilla | that's why I'm asking |
| 23:00.50 | Megalon | never heard of salem :o |
| 23:01.20 | Megalon | no clue if my opinion would be valueable, i enjoyed the fuck out of terra nova :D |
| 23:01.33 | Stanzilla | I liked terra nova, too |
| 23:01.55 | Megalon | still want to know what's up in the fucking badlands :( |
| 23:02.35 | Stanzilla | I was really sad when they cancelled it |
| 23:03.33 | Megalon | i miss shitty cgi dinosaurs :> |
| 23:07.01 | znf | I found it crappy |
| 23:07.13 | znf | I mean, when I saw the trailer, I was hyped |
| 23:07.18 | znf | then it went all "Lassie" :-/ |
| 23:07.35 | znf | people get into trouble, stuff works out by the end of the episode |
| 23:07.37 | znf | next week, repeat |
| 23:09.27 | Stanzilla | that's like every tv show in existence? |
| 23:10.00 | Megalon | many yes, not all. brba, got |
| 23:10.39 | znf | and the main story progressed too slowly |
| 23:10.58 | znf | Will that extra roll system use a currency separate from the raiding currency?(I would assume so) |
| 23:10.58 | znf | The plan was to use the same token. (holinka) |
| 23:11.09 | znf | Someone wants his face bashed in. |
| 23:12.45 | Megalon | lassie hater, holinka hater |
| 23:12.49 | Megalon | so much hate, znf :( |
| 23:13.16 | znf | I wonder what the PvE ilvl of high-end pvp gear will be |
| 23:13.19 | Megalon | oh tomorrow people cancelled after one season :7 |
| 23:13.23 | znf | yeah |
| 23:13.31 | znf | classic CW show |
| 23:13.37 | Megalon | poor olliver queen's brother |
| 23:13.41 | Megalon | oliver |
| 23:13.50 | znf | with 20+ yo actors posing as 14-16yo's |
| 23:14.18 | znf | huge, bulked up; totally 16 years old and in high-school! |
| 23:14.43 | znf | I was mid-way trough 1st season |
| 23:14.47 | Megalon | oh, never noticed they were supposed to be 16 |
| 23:14.49 | znf | I wonder if I should bother finishing it up |
| 23:14.59 | znf | Well, they're in highschool, so... |
| 23:15.00 | Megalon | the finale is haha |
| 23:15.27 | Megalon | no clue what age highschool should be so |
| 23:15.36 | Megalon | just took them all for 20somethings |
| 23:15.59 | znf | 14-17 is highschool in US, afaik? |
| 23:16.01 | Megalon | thought his young brother was 16, he more like 19-20 |
| 23:16.18 | Megalon | how is kara then? |
| 23:16.45 | znf | 23, apparently |
| 23:16.52 | Megalon | oh, thought older |
| 23:16.56 | Trela | znf: 15-19 depending on date of birth and a bunch of other crazy factors. |
| 23:16.58 | Megalon | they suck at casting |
| 23:17.01 | znf | Trela, yeah. |
| 23:17.10 | znf | Oh, look. Stephen is supposed to be 18 |
| 23:17.17 | Megalon | can spoil the finale if ya want :P |
| 23:17.26 | Megalon | it's all twists and turns in the last episodes haha |
| 23:17.39 | znf | Hillary is supposed to be 19 |
| 23:17.42 | znf | well, I can buy that :P |
| 23:17.51 | Megalon | i'd do hillary |
| 23:17.53 | Megalon | she's the bomb |
| 23:17.54 | Megalon | h3h3h3 |
| 23:18.16 | znf | JOhn is supposed to be 27-28 |
| 23:18.36 | znf | yeah, totally; episode when the dad was talking to him, "I have a kide just your age at home" |
| 23:18.44 | znf | just your age ~= barely 10 years difference |
| 23:19.25 | Megalon | oh you watched about half of s1 |
| 23:19.42 | znf | yeah |
| 23:19.50 | znf | ow, WAY TO GO WIKIA |
| 23:20.01 | Trela | More like, both turn 5 this year, but one was born on July 31 and the other on August 1. The first is not "old enough" so they prevent the first from entering elementary until next year while the second enters elementary in the current year. |
| 23:20.02 | znf | I read the bio of Roger |
| 23:20.10 | Megalon | ? :D |
| 23:20.25 | znf | http://the-tomorrow-people.wikia.com/wiki/Roger_Price <-- look under Status and Dates |
| 23:20.26 | znf | >_< |
| 23:20.58 | Megalon | yea, shot by jedikiah |
| 23:21.04 | Megalon | for realz this time |
| 23:21.53 | Megalon | as i said, twists and turns :D |
| 23:22.46 | znf | ow, Cassy dies :( |
| 23:22.49 | Megalon | the finale set up s02 like omg |
| 23:23.22 | znf | they got the cancel bat! |
| 23:23.26 | Megalon | she's the founders daughter |
| 23:23.31 | Stanzilla | I'm such a pro |
| 23:23.31 | znf | I know |
| 23:23.35 | znf | I've seen that far |
| 23:23.41 | Stanzilla | just spread half a bottle of beer on the kitchen floor |
| 23:23.44 | Megalon | he uses her for studies |
| 23:27.27 | Stanzilla | my good beer :( |
| 23:27.57 | znf | I know |
| 23:28.02 | znf | it's all revealed in the same episode! |
| 23:28.20 | Megalon | for a few episodes he is the good guy |
| 23:30.16 | znf | no, he isn't |
| 23:30.20 | znf | did we watch the same show? |
| 23:30.34 | znf | he tried to kill astrid in the 1st episode he shows up |
| 23:30.37 | Megalon | i watched the other 10 too :P |
| 23:32.03 | quiescens | why did you do that stan? o.o |
| 23:32.15 | Megalon | he just likes to be miserable |
| 23:32.40 | Stanzilla | it's like this thing that happens when you open the bottle |
| 23:32.47 | Stanzilla | and it slowly rises |
| 23:32.50 | Stanzilla | and then spills over |
| 23:33.12 | Stanzilla | and I didnt wait, grabbed the bottle and my sandwich and left |
| 23:33.20 | Stanzilla | midway poof |
| 23:33.39 | quiescens | ): |
| 23:33.39 | znf | XBMC 13.1 beta1 |
| 23:33.40 | znf | wth |
| 23:33.41 | znf | that was fast |
| 23:37.46 | znf | clicks on wildstar.exe |
| 23:38.43 | quiescens | don't do it |
| 23:43.39 | znf | does it |