| 00:01.15 | Stanzilla | gilneas is said to be pretty empty |
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| 00:18.35 | sylvanaar | I wonder how many addons still use plain SendWho |
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| 00:19.59 | sylvanaar | I have stopped trying to evangelize wholib - so my guess is that there are a number of them out there now |
| 00:22.39 | sylvanaar | I know many authors resent having to support some random library, but I have never found a better solution to how to share SendWho among many addons trying to use it at the same time |
| 00:23.25 | Torhal | sylvanaar: I actually read an AddOn comment today where the author said "I can't figure out how to not conflict with WIM" |
| 00:23.32 | Torhal | I wanted to headdesk so hard. |
| 00:24.09 | sylvanaar | WhoLib even handles the user doing /who foo, while some addon's SendWho is still processing |
| 00:24.36 | sylvanaar | most addons don't even test that |
| 00:26.43 | sylvanaar | If you have ever used Census+ wholib makes so much sense. Converting Census+ to wholib was a big win |
| 00:28.47 | sylvanaar | Census is actually what I test WhoLib with lol |
| 00:29.00 | sylvanaar | it just has who's going 100% of the time. |
| 00:29.06 | Torhal | I thought that died off around 2007 |
| 00:29.15 | sylvanaar | nah, its still around |
| 00:29.37 | sylvanaar | and it used to be in the "census doesn't work with prat/wim/etc. camp" |
| 00:30.53 | sylvanaar | SendWho is just a single user api, and only one addon should be calling it at any time - not much you can do about that |
| 00:32.45 | sylvanaar | Otherwise, you don't know which call to SendWho it is responding to when the who result arrives |
| 00:33.23 | sylvanaar | No way to know :( |
| 00:35.40 | sylvanaar | Idealy, SendWho() would return a token, and when the who result arrived, that token would be part of them |
| 00:36.11 | Torhal | sylvanaar: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/superguildinvite#c1320 |
| 00:36.28 | sylvanaar | Yes. They PM'ed me just now. |
| 00:36.32 | Torhal | lol |
| 00:37.16 | sylvanaar | I hope they buy into the concept |
| 00:38.03 | sylvanaar | It isn't an easy sell - I don't know why |
| 00:38.17 | Torhal | Not Invented Here syndrome. |
| 00:38.22 | sylvanaar | Yeah - pretty much |
| 00:38.31 | sylvanaar | Why should I use that? Kind of thing |
| 00:39.07 | sylvanaar | And its true - if you are the only addon. It isn't necessary |
| 00:39.47 | znf | Could you just BRAEK that invite addon? |
| 00:40.12 | znf | or, could someone decide it's against tos? >_< |
| 00:40.30 | sylvanaar | Don't like it znf? |
| 00:40.39 | znf | try being on my server unguilded |
| 00:40.59 | sylvanaar | hehe |
| 00:41.02 | nebula169 | try setting auto-decline guild invites |
| 00:41.20 | nebula169 | it's set account wide |
| 00:41.30 | znf | I am |
| 00:41.54 | znf | but if you're waiting for an invite from a guildie on an alt... |
| 00:42.35 | nebula169 | shouldn't even show up in /who if you're in a starting area, imo |
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| 01:15.00 | Stanzilla | dear santa, please let Lost Isles stay online for a few minutes. thanks. |
| 01:17.08 | Torhal | Santa isn't real, Stanzilla. |
| 01:17.13 | Stanzilla | WHAT |
| 01:17.16 | Stanzilla | nooo |
| 01:17.17 | nebula169 | don't listen to Torhal! |
| 01:17.25 | Torhal | !!! |
| 01:17.44 | Stanzilla | apperantly my copy paste fix from talentmacros was not enough to fix libgroupinspecT |
| 01:18.02 | Torhal | Never go full CopyPasta. |
| 01:18.11 | Stanzilla | I did! |
| 01:18.19 | Stanzilla | also I just had pasta |
| 01:18.22 | Stanzilla | so good :) |
| 01:18.37 | nebula169 | also, the shit in wa won't work either since he didn't actually fix GetTalentInfo |
| 01:19.39 | Stanzilla | the stuff Gragagrogog did, you mean? |
| 01:19.42 | nebula169 | yea |
| 01:21.14 | Torhal | People actually fix things, now? I thought the cool thing to do was to comment out all the lines that caused Lua errors. |
| 01:21.21 | nebula169 | pretty much |
| 01:21.25 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 01:21.31 | Stanzilla | what's broken about gettalentinfo then? |
| 01:21.56 | Gragagrogog | gettalentinfo returns something else now... gotta watch out what do u use from it |
| 01:22.28 | nebula169 | that and the way to convert index to row/column is flawed |
| 01:22.50 | Gragagrogog | hmm |
| 01:23.38 | Sinaloit | You don't comment out the lines that cause errors. You wrap them in a pcall... Duh |
| 01:27.20 | Stanzilla | nebula169: do you actually use WA on live? |
| 01:27.53 | nebula169 | if i didn't i wouldn't give a fuck about you messing things up >.> |
| 01:28.29 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 01:29.24 | Talryn | Has anyone looked at the new Resolve buff and figured out what the other two numbers in the aura data actually are? |
| 01:50.58 | Gragagrogog | ah i see it ... |
| 01:51.14 | Gragagrogog | its returning non-integer values |
| 02:05.44 | Gragagrogog | also, column and row is swapped..... shit |
| 02:07.18 | nebula169 | and ceil(index/3) is enough for row, and third arg should use GetActiveSpec() |
| 02:26.03 | Stanzilla | I just looked at the fan update for skada on wowi |
| 02:26.15 | Stanzilla | the guy updated to toc and included the fixed ace3 version |
| 02:26.16 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 02:27.22 | nebula169 | i'd say pm Cairenn to remove it, but skada is public domain ;[ |
| 02:27.45 | Cairenn | Which means I can't do jack. |
| 02:27.49 | nebula169 | yea |
| 02:28.19 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 02:28.25 | Stanzilla | I just declined the upload on curseforge |
| 02:28.52 | Stanzilla | his username is german for "loser" btw, figures :p |
| 02:32.16 | Torhal | peers curiously at zarnivoop. |
| 02:32.27 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r11775 Loader.lua: bump DBM faker |
| 02:36.13 | Repo | New experimental addon: LibModelCanvas-1.0 - http://www.wowace.com/addons/modelcanvas/ |
| 02:44.59 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03gragagrogog * r72 (2 files in 1 directory): Refix 6.0 GetTalentInfo |
| 02:46.59 | zarnivoop | speaking of Skada, will Curse be handing out beta invites? I managed to miss out so far. |
| 02:47.36 | Stanzilla | Torhal should know |
| 02:47.37 | nebula169 | Torhal: ^ |
| 02:47.42 | Stanzilla | zarnivoop: did you sign up at wowi though? |
| 02:48.05 | Torhal | I've asked about beta keys, and all I got was a bunch of shrugs. |
| 02:48.06 | zarnivoop | Stanzilla: for what? |
| 02:48.57 | Stanzilla | zarnivoop: beeetaa |
| 02:49.10 | Stanzilla | zarnivoop: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49472 |
| 02:49.21 | Stanzilla | also my least favorite mobs from BC are back with WoD |
| 02:49.27 | Stanzilla | fucking terrokar stalkers, hate them |
| 02:49.55 | zarnivoop | Stanzilla: nope, but will do now, cheers |
| 02:50.03 | Stanzilla | yw |
| 02:51.10 | Torhal | MysticalOS: Whoops. |
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| 02:52.19 | Stanzilla | zarnivoop: skada is working fine so far btw, guess it just needs adjustments for the combatlog changes |
| 02:54.01 | zarnivoop | sweet |
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| 02:56.12 | Stanzilla | that reminds me that I wanted to file a feature quest ticket |
| 02:58.07 | Stanzilla | only 54 tickets, kinda expected more |
| 03:01.26 | Stanzilla | should have assigned the ticket to Funkeh` for teh lulz |
| 03:03.03 | zarnivoop | oscarucb closed a bajillion tickets a while ago |
| 03:03.26 | Stanzilla | yeah he also fixed tons of bugs |
| 03:03.49 | zarnivoop | yup |
| 03:08.55 | Kaelten | Torhal: Stanzilla: zarnivoop: I know we're working on it. :) |
| 03:13.48 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 03:14.06 | Torhal | Kaelten: Plying them with tequila? |
| 03:14.35 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:14.52 | quiescens | moo? |
| 03:15.00 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:23.07 | Stanzilla | does blizzard still hate on curse because of datamining? |
| 03:24.28 | Neffi | Blizzard hates on datamining? I thought they didnt care |
| 03:24.58 | Stanzilla | nah they were pretty pissed off at times |
| 03:25.07 | nebula169 | they when shit was suppose to be on nda |
| 03:25.10 | nebula169 | only* |
| 03:25.24 | nebula169 | they're pretty transparent now-a-days though |
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| 03:41.23 | Stanzilla | nebula169: does your guild have a facebook page? |
| 03:43.06 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: not that i'm aware of |
| 03:44.48 | Stanzilla | hokay |
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| 04:03.57 | Stanzilla | I don't know why anyone would prefer usenet to one click hoster downloads |
| 04:04.03 | Stanzilla | the whole checking and repairing takes ages |
| 04:05.00 | Stanzilla | could be because the cpu in my nas sucks though |
| 04:08.22 | nebula169 | Stanzilla: usenet can be automated easy! |
| 04:08.29 | Stanzilla | that is true |
| 04:08.48 | Stanzilla | that's also the only reason I tried it now |
| 04:13.25 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r73 : Refix 6.0 GetTalentInfo |
| 04:13.31 | Stanzilla | wtf tortoise |
| 04:14.04 | Stanzilla | I dont even..what |
| 04:17.05 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r74 (3 files in 1 directory): Refix 6.0 GetTalentInfo |
| 04:18.21 | Stanzilla | sonofabeach |
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| 04:36.21 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03stanzilla 076.0 * r75 WeakAurasOptions/WeakAurasOptions.lua: move tutorial button a little more to the left |
| 04:41.44 | nevcairiel | I prefer Usenet because it feels much easier to me than one click holsters, also faster |
| 04:43.10 | Stanzilla | I guess you max speed on both if you pay for it |
| 04:45.10 | nevcairiel | Doesn't one click kinda have a flavor of the month which you need to use, and another one next month? |
| 04:46.00 | nevcairiel | Anyway I don't mind the repair and unpack steps, runs on a fast system for me |
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| 04:50.28 | nebula169 | i remember when i first used usenet and some parts were corrupt, i thought pars were the coolest thing ever |
| 04:50.34 | Stanzilla | yeah well there are services that provide access to all of them |
| 04:51.31 | nebula169 | then my isp stopped serving alt.binaries ;[ |
| 04:56.56 | Stanzilla | almost 96 |
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| 05:56.11 | Stanzilla | if I could stay connected to lost isles longer than 2min, that would be nice |
| 06:00.40 | quiescens | o.o |
| 06:00.48 | quiescens | disconnects stan |
| 06:00.59 | Stanzilla | too late, already disconnected |
| 06:06.16 | Stanzilla | finally, 96 |
| 06:07.02 | Kalroth | old |
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| 06:14.48 | sb | morning |
| 06:15.22 | Repo | blood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 07master * 0.29-4-g3cf6aa8 (8 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits] |
| 06:15.22 | Repo | 3cf6aa8: * Add support for WoD including a Resolve Bar. * Code refactoring. * Pass boolean to SetMovable so it works properly in WoD. |
| 06:15.22 | Repo | 674bef5: Continue splitting off the code into separate files. |
| 06:15.22 | Repo | c2ffc1f: Continue refactoring into smaller files. |
| 06:15.22 | Repo | 8607b85: * Refactor so standard options are added via functions. * Pull in addon data |
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| 07:10.13 | sb | Fisker: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jeremysteckling.facerrel |
| 07:28.43 | Stanzilla | I want L :( |
| 07:32.29 | quiescens | ): |
| 07:32.35 | quiescens | pats stan |
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| 07:39.09 | sb | Stanzilla: why not installing the port? |
| 07:42.36 | Stanzilla | scared |
| 07:42.42 | Stanzilla | might be too unfinished to use |
| 07:42.56 | nevcairiel | Unless you're a developer running L is usually not that great of an experienced |
| 07:43.04 | nevcairiel | Unclear upgrade path etc |
| 07:44.35 | sb | screw upgrade path - app backup + flash :D no need to be a developer here |
| 07:45.00 | nevcairiel | Also a bunch of apps may just not work |
| 07:47.15 | sb | same when using ART already or other experimental stuff :) |
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| 07:53.04 | Stanzilla | I already know of one thing that would drive me mad in current L |
| 07:53.13 | Stanzilla | no shortcut to battery in the quick menu :D |
| 07:59.09 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 08:23.32 | Stanzilla | http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/android-l-developer-preview-3/ =( |
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| 08:29.01 | sb | yup... |
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| 09:37.25 | sb | Stanzilla: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/378232716/inkcase-plus-e-ink-screen-for-android-phone?ref=category :| |
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| 09:42.09 | Fisker | old sb |
| 09:42.20 | sb | Fisker: watch face or inkcase? |
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| 10:00.18 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: you have a direct feed from the Chrome bug tracker to your brain is right? Did something change very recently (like last 4 days or so) with TLS/SSL that could break accessing some pages? |
| 10:01.46 | Fisker | Haven't seen any |
| 10:01.56 | Stanzilla | Workfoz: which channel? |
| 10:01.57 | Stanzilla | beta? |
| 10:01.58 | Stanzilla | release? |
| 10:02.16 | quiescens | i blame *foz |
| 10:04.11 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: release and beta, weirdly enough |
| 10:04.55 | Workfoz | Which probably means it's not Chrome's fault, but it works fine in Firefox |
| 10:05.11 | Stanzilla | could only be chrome's cert store |
| 10:05.16 | Stanzilla | which is updated indepently |
| 10:05.43 | Workfoz | (and it works with our little squid proxy) |
| 10:06.20 | Workfoz | But it also affects someone who's using Opera, so some part of Chromium is definitely a factor |
| 10:06.57 | Fisker | Isn't it more likely some kind of defacto deprecation of ssl/tls support? |
| 10:07.00 | Stanzilla | did it break between the 15th and 16th? |
| 10:07.15 | Workfoz | It worked on Friday |
| 10:07.28 | Workfoz | Unless it's something that could be delayed |
| 10:07.30 | Stanzilla | then probably not chrome related |
| 10:07.48 | Workfoz | Like updating Chrome because of restart over the weekend |
| 10:07.53 | Stanzilla | only delay that those updates have is a person actually not restarting chrome |
| 10:08.42 | Workfoz | Fisker: the entire point of deprecation is that it continues working, so that's unlikely (also, what do you even mean?) |
| 10:08.48 | Fisker | well yeah |
| 10:08.58 | Fisker | I JUST TRIED TO USE SMART WORDS TO LOOK SMART WORKFOZ |
| 10:09.12 | Workfoz | Stanzilla: exactly, nobody does that without being forced ;-) |
| 10:09.34 | Fisker | What I mean is that some certificates may no longer work |
| 10:09.38 | Fisker | I don't know if Google has done that |
| 10:09.41 | Fisker | Microsoft certainly has |
| 10:09.53 | Stanzilla | http://build.chromium.org/f/chromium/perf/dashboard/ui/changelog.html?url=/trunk/src&range=260298:269467&mode=html ctrl f |
| 10:09.54 | Stanzilla | ssl |
| 10:09.58 | Stanzilla | only openssl roll |
| 10:10.31 | Workfoz | Sure, but it works fine on our other proxy and in Firefox with our regular one, so I remain confused |
| 10:11.15 | Fisker | the site isn't available to the internet I assume? |
| 10:11.24 | Workfoz | Not my job to fix anyway, different department... But since they're usually not capable of googling their way out of situations, they come and ask me anyway |
| 10:12.31 | Fisker | I know that feel |
| 10:12.33 | Workfoz | Fisker: nah, affects stuff like ssllabs.com, twimg.com, Google image search thumbnails, some part of Facebook |
| 10:12.41 | Fisker | yeah ok |
| 10:13.01 | Fisker | I don't think that's a chrome issue then |
| 10:13.03 | Workfoz | Irccloud even, I'm on my phone :-D |
| 10:13.39 | Workfoz | Well it only happens with Chrome and Opera, so it must be related, however, I too would rather blame our proxy |
| 10:13.40 | Fisker | check the cert and post some screenshots |
| 10:14.15 | Workfoz | Could check with Firefox, I guess (or from my server with openssl cli) |
| 10:14.34 | Workfoz | Can't check with Chrome, connection resets before anything happens |
| 10:14.39 | Fisker | Well it could be some interaction with the crl stuff chrome does |
| 10:14.49 | Fisker | I wouldn't think Opera does that though |
| 10:14.59 | Workfoz | That's an interesting suggestion - can you elaborate? |
| 10:15.12 | Fisker | not really D: |
| 10:15.22 | Fisker | Chrome downloads and maintains a seperate crl |
| 10:15.31 | Workfoz | And why wouldn't Opera do that? Isn't it basically Chrome with a different UX |
| 10:15.36 | Fisker | Instead of relying on oscp and checking the certificate crl |
| 10:15.59 | Workfoz | Right, I heard about that (or read, probably on imperialviolet) |
| 10:16.16 | Fisker | I would assume that the crl part isn't part of the renderer |
| 10:16.20 | Fisker | But maybe they do |
| 10:16.40 | Workfoz | I assume Opera uses more than just Chromium's renderer? |
| 10:16.52 | Workfoz | Anyway, good idea, I'll look into how that works |
| 10:17.04 | Fisker | also |
| 10:17.05 | Fisker | you could |
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| 10:17.16 | Fisker | though I don't know if that actually disables that list |
| 10:17.22 | Workfoz | BTW, Windows cert store should be out of the picture, since everything works fine in IE, too |
| 10:17.28 | Fisker | also I'm not even sure the option is there any longer |
| 10:18.17 | Fisker | don't think it is |
| 10:18.30 | Workfoz | What do you mean? |
| 10:18.31 | Fisker | They used to have an option where you could re-enable checking the actual CRL of a certificate |
| 10:18.37 | Fisker | But this seems to be gone now |
| 10:18.38 | Workfoz | Ah |
| 10:19.53 | quiescens | what site did you break? |
| 10:19.56 | quiescens | maybe its just you |
| 10:19.59 | quiescens | blames *foz |
| 10:20.08 | Fisker | u w0t quiescens ? |
| 10:21.11 | sb | quiescens broke fakebook |
| 10:21.39 | sb | Workfoz: just stop using stupid ssl! plaintext all the way! |
| 10:23.01 | Fisker | opera 22.0.1471.70? |
| 10:24.27 | Workfoz | Fisker: I'll have to ask |
| 10:25.08 | Fisker | Can you connect to the sites at all? |
| 10:27.08 | Stanzilla | that's what I meant when I said chrome cert store actually |
| 10:28.49 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: yeah, that guy has that version |
| 10:29.04 | Gnarfoz | (got tired of having to use my phone) |
| 10:33.01 | Fisker | yeah works here |
| 10:33.10 | Fisker | I guess it must have to do with the proxy then |
| 10:33.36 | Fisker | Can you bypass the proxy? |
| 10:33.39 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's certainly some kind of weird overlap between chromium-parts and proxy being shit |
| 10:33.40 | Fisker | Because I'd try that |
| 10:33.46 | Gnarfoz | no, that's what it's there for :p |
| 10:34.06 | Fisker | Yeah but obviously you make it possible to get outside that D: |
| 10:34.08 | Fisker | silly geese |
| 10:34.17 | Gnarfoz | wat u mean? :o |
| 10:34.22 | Stanzilla | play the admin card |
| 10:34.47 | Gnarfoz | (and yes, I said before, it works on our experimental Squid proxy, so I can be sure it's the regular one's fault) |
| 10:34.54 | Gnarfoz | wrong kind of admin, Stanzilla |
| 10:35.16 | Gnarfoz | the network/workstation/infra guys do actually just go out through NAT, fuckers |
| 10:35.34 | Fisker | Well yes |
| 10:35.37 | Fisker | of course we do |
| 10:35.57 | Gnarfoz | I keep on having to remind tham that they shouldn't say "works for me" without actually checking with a regular user's setup ^^ |
| 10:36.02 | Gnarfoz | -on |
| 10:36.38 | Stanzilla | Monstercat Podcast Ep. 016 so good |
| 10:36.45 | Gnarfoz | is there some way to look at the CRL? |
| 10:37.06 | Stanzilla | http://dev.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/crlsets |
| 10:37.16 | Gnarfoz | meh, I meant what I have locally, but ok |
| 10:37.57 | Gnarfoz | nice, that page doesn't work (but it's http?!) |
| 10:38.27 | Gnarfoz | ah, just terribly slow (maybe he restarted the proxy just now? I have no idea) |
| 10:38.57 | Gnarfoz | blergh, tools in Go |
| 10:39.41 | Fisker | it's in chrome profile |
| 10:41.23 | Fisker | %appdata%\..\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\ |
| 10:41.41 | Fisker | or %localappdata% |
| 10:41.44 | Fisker | always forget about that fucker |
| 10:42.07 | Fisker | "Version":0,"ContentType":"CRLSet","Sequence":1740 |
| 10:42.09 | Fisker | mine |
| 10:43.51 | sb | oh http://www.enhancedsteam.com/ - thats nice |
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| 10:56.39 | sb | Stanzilla: how is "the strain"? |
| 10:57.31 | Fisker | stupid |
| 10:59.51 | sb | ok!? trailer doesnt look that bad. another zombie series? |
| 10:59.54 | znf | sb, it's nice |
| 11:00.24 | sb | nice or stupid? :o |
| 11:03.08 | Fisker | It's ok but I found the pilot to be kind of stupid |
| 11:03.10 | znf | I kind of enjoyed it |
| 11:03.36 | znf | in other news, my minion t-shirt is here! https://i.imgur.com/oFDr76v.jpg |
| 11:08.23 | Stanzilla | sb: havent watched |
| 11:08.54 | Stanzilla | been busy watching sword art online |
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| 11:13.25 | sb | znf: again...? |
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| 11:15.39 | znf | sb, another one! |
| 11:17.09 | Workfoz | Chrome on Windows uses OpenSSL for its crypto, right? |
| 11:17.14 | Workfoz | or was that on Android |
| 11:17.29 | znf | All of them use OpenSSL at the moment... |
| 11:17.37 | znf | They will switch to BoringSSL |
| 11:18.10 | Stanzilla | that already happened, znf |
| 11:18.16 | znf | Oh? |
| 11:18.17 | znf | :( |
| 11:18.18 | Workfoz | long ago |
| 11:18.20 | znf | I'm behind |
| 11:18.28 | Stanzilla | only 4 days or so |
| 11:18.31 | Workfoz | no, way longer |
| 11:18.46 | Workfoz | they just gave it a name when they started pulling openssl patches on top of their code-base instead of applying their patches on top of openssl |
| 11:18.50 | Workfoz | code didn't change |
| 11:19.03 | Workfoz | at least that's what the blog post said |
| 11:19.17 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 11:19.17 | Workfoz | (might of course have gained new changes since then, but that wasn't the point) |
| 11:19.22 | Fisker | Chrome uses NSS |
| 11:19.27 | Stanzilla | what I meant was them actually pulling from the boringssl repo |
| 11:19.50 | Workfoz | it uses NSS? :\ |
| 11:19.58 | Fisker | on windows yes |
| 11:20.11 | Fisker | I believe they talked about using openssl on android |
| 11:20.12 | Workfoz | so no "only Chrome affected because it uses a different SSL/TLS stack than the others" |
| 11:20.19 | Fisker | but they said after heartbleed that they would change that |
| 11:21.11 | Workfoz | yeah, Fisker has it right |
| 11:21.19 | Workfoz | NSS everywhere except Android |
| 11:24.38 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 11:24.41 | Stanzilla | and chromeos I guess |
| 11:24.50 | Fisker | Chromeos never counts! |
| 11:25.42 | Fisker | chromeos uses nss too apparently |
| 11:26.12 | Stanzilla | interesting :D |
| 11:26.18 | Stanzilla | wonder if they will change that soon |
| 11:26.56 | Workfoz | probably at the same time as Linux |
| 11:27.12 | Workfoz | since that's what it is |
| 11:27.49 | Workfoz | anyway, it's fixed by now |
| 11:27.54 | Fisker | what was the problem? |
| 11:27.55 | Workfoz | of course Proxy to blame |
| 11:28.06 | Workfoz | good question, we'll probably never know for certain, but: |
| 11:29.32 | Workfoz | proxy admin added a "combined object" (no idea what that nomenclature specifically entails for BlueCoat proxy appliances) to the proxy that was intended to disable the proxy authentication requirement for certain user agents (namely: everything iTunes uses, because iTunes is a shitlord and can't deal with proxys properly) |
| 11:29.52 | Workfoz | he had separate (not sure if just 1 or multiple) single rules/objects for that before then |
| 11:30.09 | Workfoz | but no idea why that would affect Chrome/Opera in this way; makes literally no sense |
| 11:30.25 | Fisker | maybe because of webkit? |
| 11:30.35 | Workfoz | basically a bunch of "Allow request.header.User-Agent="iphone" authenticate(no)" (6, to be precise) |
| 11:30.43 | Fisker | oh |
| 11:31.01 | Workfoz | yeah well, why it affects Chrome + Opera is pretty obvious, they share... things |
| 11:31.02 | Fisker | I thought he would look at webkit in the string instead |
| 11:31.15 | Workfoz | yeah, that's what I thought |
| 11:31.25 | Workfoz | but he c/p'd me the list and it's just 6 things |
| 11:31.31 | Fisker | he's lying |
| 11:31.37 | Workfoz | that was also my first reaction |
| 11:31.40 | Workfoz | going to go check later |
| 11:31.41 | Workfoz | :D |
| 11:31.43 | Fisker | :D |
| 11:31.53 | Workfoz | iphone, ipad, Stocks, CFNetwork, Darwin, Wispr |
| 11:32.05 | Workfoz | (no idea what Stocks, CFNetwork or Wispr are) |
| 11:32.07 | Fisker | First rule of "I did something dumb" is "delete fucking everything" |
| 11:32.18 | Fisker | Oh you should've seen my face |
| 11:32.26 | Fisker | when this jackass deleted our root ca |
| 11:32.31 | Workfoz | especially when dealing with people who couldn't google their way out of a locked toilet stall |
| 11:32.38 | Fisker | So we had to setup a new one because we could no longer generate a CRL |
| 11:32.41 | Fisker | So I made a new one |
| 11:32.54 | Fisker | And because we still use XP I had to do a looooooooot of shit to get it working |
| 11:33.06 | Fisker | So it took me a few days to get running kind of "blindly" |
| 11:33.11 | Fisker | And we test it out and it doesn't work |
| 11:33.20 | Fisker | Turns out I had misspelled the certificate :( |
| 11:33.23 | Workfoz | y u no backup? (ok I shouldn't ask, there's so much stuff we don't have backups of... :D) |
| 11:33.35 | Workfoz | hehe yeah, you already told that story back when it was current |
| 11:33.37 | Workfoz | I remember |
| 11:33.45 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:33.52 | Fisker | Just so annoying |
| 11:33.57 | Fisker | and yeah no backups |
| 11:34.04 | Fisker | Seriously this place is a mess |
| 11:34.05 | Workfoz | I suspect it might be because the proxy injects all kinds of shit into connections |
| 11:34.29 | Fisker | I really annoys me how shitty things were there |
| 11:34.33 | Workfoz | shouldn't anymore for https though, interception should be turned off for at least 3 months now |
| 11:34.42 | Fisker | it* |
| 11:35.06 | Workfoz | but I had cookies like http://cookiepedia.co.uk/cookies/BCSI-CS-5B059C53EB35D97E for twimg.com |
| 11:35.11 | Fisker | We use a backup software that can't backup linux servers newer than kernel 2.6 something |
| 11:35.18 | Fisker | We haven't actually tested it |
| 11:35.21 | Workfoz | must have had them since way back when ssl interception was still on |
| 11:35.29 | Fisker | And it only works on a few of our servers |
| 11:35.53 | Workfoz | another software that can't deal with even remotely current configurations: vmware vcenter converter |
| 11:35.56 | Workfoz | fuckin piece of shit |
| 11:36.08 | Workfoz | GPT partition table? NOPE. LVM? Nope. |
| 11:36.15 | Fisker | D: |
| 11:36.27 | Workfoz | UDEV? good luck, might work if you adjust manually afterwards |
| 11:36.30 | Fisker | When we lost a disk due to someone playing around with xen this was the actual first time they had tested restoring backups |
| 11:36.40 | Fisker | The incrementals didn't work |
| 11:36.45 | Workfoz | neat.jpg |
| 11:36.50 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:37.03 | Fisker | And they tried to fix my server like 2-3 times the same way |
| 11:37.09 | Fisker | Took them two days |
| 11:37.16 | Fisker | Then I was like fuck it, let me |
| 11:37.34 | Fisker | And I could see the incremental jobs failed and their backup sets were incomplete |
| 11:37.38 | Stanzilla | yay got my 7.1 system working again |
| 11:37.40 | Workfoz | anyway, I suspect it's some bluecoat fuckery making Chrome drop the connection (even though Chrome's dev tools say it was NET::CONNECTION_RESET, i.e. the other side closed the TCP connection) |
| 11:37.43 | Fisker | hurr durr I'll set a checkmark in the non-incremental one |
| 11:37.44 | Stanzilla | 120db of EDM for my neighbors |
| 11:37.47 | Fisker | a few hours later it worked |
| 11:37.54 | Fisker | Though it was a week old instead of just a day :< |
| 11:38.18 | Fisker | btw Workfoz |
| 11:38.26 | Fisker | Did I ever explain to you why we lost the disks? |
| 11:39.01 | Fisker | As I recall I believe it had something to do with resizing the disk without shutting down the server |
| 11:39.09 | Fisker | This isn't possible with the xenserver gui |
| 11:39.32 | Fisker | but the guys who they paid to said it up said it should be possible in the commandline |
| 11:40.15 | Fisker | He asked me if I could expand the drive on our fileserver and I refused, then told him to setup a test VM and try it there instead |
| 11:40.33 | Fisker | He then proceeded to use our issuing CA as a "test vm" |
| 11:40.35 | Fisker | crashed that |
| 11:40.45 | Fisker | Then did the same thing to our file server the next day |
| 11:40.51 | Fisker | Crashing that and 3-4 other disks |
| 11:41.05 | Stanzilla | man, foobar2000 still does not upmix to 7.1 |
| 11:41.17 | Fisker | And lets just be clear here Workfoz |
| 11:41.31 | Fisker | Guess who made twice as much as the other |
| 11:41.51 | Fisker | It starts with T and ends with hat guy |
| 11:42.17 | Fisker | The amount of stupid going on over there is depressing |
| 11:44.38 | sb | Stanzilla: also no google music plugin :p |
| 11:44.56 | Stanzilla | yeah I dont use that |
| 11:48.08 | Stanzilla | 5.1 works just fine |
| 11:48.19 | Stanzilla | just the additional 2 wont |
| 11:49.30 | sb | Fisker: nice :o how do you know how much he makes? |
| 11:49.38 | Stanzilla | oh, fixed |
| 11:49.40 | Stanzilla | great success |
| 11:49.45 | Fisker | Because sb |
| 11:49.49 | Fisker | He's a talentless hack |
| 11:49.53 | Fisker | And he likes rubbing it in our faces |
| 11:50.04 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 11:51.06 | Fisker | Basically he had a "query" with HR and brought his paycheck with him |
| 11:51.12 | Fisker | and left it then went on vacation for 2 weeks |
| 11:51.29 | Fisker | Just lying on his front desk for everybody just remotely non-blind to see |
| 11:51.53 | Fisker | Infact if braille was printed on it, it would be so obvious even steven wonder would read it by accident |
| 11:52.01 | Fisker | stevie |
| 12:02.16 | sb | Fisker: he opened it and left it then? :o |
| 12:02.46 | Fisker | he brought it |
| 12:03.00 | Fisker | The worst part is that there's also a reason why he's getting so much money |
| 12:03.04 | sb | well, tbh, i do this all the time - i dont think my coworkers would spy on my mail |
| 12:03.12 | sb | certified xyz? |
| 12:03.24 | sb | or sleeping with HR? |
| 12:03.32 | Fisker | nope and nope |
| 12:03.52 | Fisker | He's not a regular 37 hours a week worker |
| 12:04.21 | Fisker | but he acts like one |
| 12:04.37 | Fisker | Basically his work hours have no upper limit |
| 12:04.57 | Fisker | Everyone else except for the boss is 37 hours a week |
| 12:05.16 | Fisker | So if we work more than 37 hours a week we technically have to take those hours off |
| 12:05.36 | sb | and his overtime is paid - even if there is none |
| 12:05.45 | Fisker | Yep |
| 12:05.47 | Fisker | But the fun thing |
| 12:05.50 | Fisker | If he has overtime |
| 12:05.53 | Fisker | He takes those hours off |
| 12:06.01 | znf | oh! TeeFury is having a sale - $6/t-shirt yay |
| 12:06.11 | Fisker | your mom is nick teefury |
| 12:06.47 | Fisker | also sb We're not spying in his mail |
| 12:07.00 | sb | znf: ikea also has PAX summer sales! |
| 12:07.10 | Fisker | He went out of his way to put it there |
| 12:07.12 | znf | I don't have ikea |
| 12:07.38 | Fisker | Otherwise he could've put it back in the envelope |
| 12:07.54 | Fisker | put it in the pile with his other papers |
| 12:07.58 | Fisker | Or even just put it in a drawer |
| 12:08.23 | Fisker | For me to not look at his paycheck I would have to look up into the ceiling |
| 12:08.26 | Fisker | That's how obvious he made it |
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| 12:16.07 | Workfoz | alternatively: asking people can also work |
| 12:16.08 | Workfoz | :D |
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| 12:28.48 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/UMskNhB.jpg lol (NSFW-ish) |
| 12:30.29 | Stanzilla | cat decided that my room is not safe anymore and moved to the hallway |
| 12:51.48 | sb | stop fapping then |
| 12:53.20 | Stanzilla | no, it was the music |
| 12:53.21 | Stanzilla | (>'-')> <('-'<) ^(' - ')^ <('-'<) (>'-')> |
| 12:56.02 | Torhal | znf: TeeFury has a grab bag all the time. It's $6 for random shirts - you might not want any of them. |
| 12:56.13 | znf | Torhal, already ordered |
| 12:59.36 | znf | for $6, oh well :P |
| 13:13.41 | sb | also its doctorwho shirts! |
| 13:13.56 | znf | nope |
| 13:14.01 | znf | I chose the "non who" thingie |
| 13:14.38 | Stanzilla | son of a tree |
| 13:15.16 | znf | birch |
| 13:15.17 | znf | ? |
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| 13:15.30 | Stanzilla | yes! |
| 13:15.44 | Stanzilla | charged for tree-son |
| 13:17.13 | znf | >i'm deploying 12 x 40G switches in a ring topology tonight. i'll be moving all production data to the new ring at the same time. all 500mbits of it. (yes... 40G, for 500mbits of traffic) |
| 13:17.13 | znf | :-| |
| 13:18.11 | znf | Stanzilla, some people have too much free time on their hands: http://imgur.com/a/QsuYd |
| 13:20.49 | sb | ugly as fuck, wth is this? |
| 13:21.04 | sb | oomkin dot timers? |
| 13:21.04 | znf | boomkin weakaura all-in-one shit |
| 13:21.27 | sb | should come with wa gold exploit included! :| |
| 13:21.41 | sb | punishment for installing such ugly shit |
| 13:21.49 | znf | :D |
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| 13:38.04 | sb | also red fontcolor on wow screenshot :| |
| 13:42.28 | Repo | skillet: 03bsmorgan * r346 (6 files in 2 directories): (3 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 13:42.28 | Repo | Skillet: |
| 13:42.28 | Repo | - |
| 13:42.28 | Repo | Debugging updates. |
| 13:42.28 | Repo | Fix for ticket 283. |
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| 15:14.07 | sb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O59SiA4Yg0A |
| 15:47.29 | harl | cool |
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| 16:15.30 | Workfoz | znf: whyyyy |
| 16:15.32 | Workfoz | also, home time |
| 16:22.52 | znf | Workfoz: What why? |
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| 16:50.26 | quiescens | go to sleep |
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| 17:25.34 | znf | Stanzilla: can you give me an uBlock crx? |
| 17:25.47 | znf | I can't download it from the Web store |
| 17:25.54 | znf | No idea why |
| 17:33.16 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/tree/master/dist#install |
| 17:36.12 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 17:36.14 | Fisker | I do not hate you |
| 17:36.22 | Stanzilla | good |
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| 18:57.29 | Repo | dkdiseases: 03talryn1 07master * 0.7-6-g26530c1 (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add an option to reverse the colors of the cooldown sweep. |
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| 19:28.13 | Talryn | Is there a way to create a link that always points to the latest alpha version of an add-on on wow ace? |
| 19:29.35 | Gnarfoz | use the client \o/ |
| 19:30.54 | Talryn | I'm just wondering if there is an easy way to point others to latest version. |
| 19:32.32 | Gnarfoz | yes, point them to the project page and tell them to click download. |
| 19:32.39 | Gnarfoz | (so really: no :P) |
| 19:33.13 | Gnarfoz | or if you want idiots to be able to figure this out: tag more often, making the curse.com link also qualify as "latest" |
| 19:42.50 | Talryn | Ok, I guess the project page is the best option still. |
| 19:45.36 | pompy1 | Parnic: https://www.facebook.com/borderlandsgame/photos/a.137673624080.103823.104080139080/10152355756159081/?type=1&permPage=1 you would. |
| 19:46.49 | Fisker | Content not find |
| 19:46.51 | Fisker | Found |
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| 20:09.34 | Repo | recount: 03reglohpri * r1253 (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:09.34 | Repo | Added BNSendWhisper and a choice field for sending reports over Battle Tag/RealID (Cross-Realm) |
| 20:31.33 | Elmoe | Hi guys does anyone know how to report an addon as abandoned on CurseForge? |
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| 20:32.34 | Gnarfoz | Elmoe: edit the project, it's in there somewhere |
| 20:32.56 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. it's a maturity level you can pick, like experimental, stable, and such) |
| 20:33.08 | nebula169 | ti4 finals so boring, newbie just reckt everyone |
| 20:33.36 | Elmoe | Gnarfoz: can I edit when I am not the owner? The addon was abandoned earlier this year and I have a patch to get it working in beta now that addons are enabled |
| 20:34.08 | nebula169 | Elmoe: try pming the author, if you don't get a response there's a little hazard icon in the bottom right corner |
| 20:34.24 | Elmoe | yeah I read online about the hazard icon but I can't find it I am ashamed to say |
| 20:34.38 | Elmoe | I will PM the author but he hasn't logged in since his post that he was abandoning 6 months ago |
| 20:34.40 | nebula169 | http://www.wowace.com/addons/<addon slug>/report/ |
| 20:34.50 | Elmoe | thank you |
| 20:36.21 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 20:36.28 | Gnarfoz | it's not for you to abandon other people's projects :p |
| 20:36.41 | Gnarfoz | it will get marked as inactive on its own eventually |
| 20:37.10 | Elmoe | well I just want to upload the patch that makes it work on beta |
| 20:37.15 | Elmoe | and would prefer not to fork it |
| 20:37.25 | Gnarfoz | you can't upload anything on wowace anyway |
| 20:38.11 | Gnarfoz | (also, what's the license?) |
| 20:40.11 | Elmoe | I don't see a license file included in the addon or a header in the source |
| 20:40.36 | Elmoe | the curse forge page does links to http://wow.curseforge.com/licenses/1-all-rights-reserved/ |
| 20:40.43 | nebula169 | it'll be on the project page |
| 20:40.44 | nebula169 | yea |
| 20:41.00 | Gnarfoz | yeah, good luck with that, then |
| 20:41.39 | Gnarfoz | unless the author replies (and with how bad Curse/CurseForge's email notifications are, it's doubtful he'll ever notice), you're out of luck |
| 20:41.45 | Elmoe | well I guess the best I can do is PM the author |
| 20:42.06 | Gnarfoz | pretty much |
| 20:42.18 | Gnarfoz | maybe there's an email address in the toc/lua comments or something |
| 20:42.26 | Elmoe | yeah I was just searching for that |
| 20:42.56 | Elmoe | I expected a header comment on the source files with contact info and license but nothing I can find thus far |
| 20:44.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah, many people just not aware of that aspect of things |
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| 20:48.26 | Elmoe | hmm wowinterface has an option to email the author |
| 20:48.30 | Elmoe | let me try that as well as the curse PM |
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| 20:59.15 | Elmoe | damn the email bounced sigh |
| 21:40.21 | Repo | broker_restfu: 03phyber 07master * 50400-1-1-g6aeb11f RestFu.lua: [+1 commit] Don't show the tooltip if we're in combat. |
| 21:40.38 | Repo | broker_restfu: 03phyber 0450400-2 * 7b50fdb /: [new tag] Tagging as 50400-2 |
| 22:07.52 | Gnarfoz | grrrr |
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| 22:08.27 | Gnarfoz | sb: do you also have the problem with gmusic sometimes just stopping mid-track (most of the time it's actually close to the beginning) |
| 22:08.30 | Gnarfoz | and getting stuck? |
| 22:09.17 | sb | didnt notice |
| 22:09.22 | sb | so no - guess not |
| 22:11.24 | Gnarfoz | for real? :< |
| 22:11.29 | Gnarfoz | so annoying |
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| 22:15.35 | Gnarfoz | dev tools says the segments are just not loading |
| 22:41.50 | Gnarfoz | doesn't work in Firefox either, and the whole progress bar/play/pause/next/back button area is outside the window oO |
| 22:41.55 | Gnarfoz | and page won't load at all in IE |
| 22:41.57 | Gnarfoz | gj google |
| 22:51.55 | znf | y u firefox? |
| 22:54.02 | Gnarfoz | because read more than 2 lines? |
| 22:54.18 | Gnarfoz | sb: works when I use t-online's proxy, wtf |
| 22:54.44 | Gnarfoz | not even surprised, really |
| 22:55.00 | Gnarfoz | more surprised they really treat 1&1 customers as their own |
| 22:55.08 | Gnarfoz | wonder what kind of cooperation deal they still have |
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| 23:32.48 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.50 | znf | GOD DAMN IT AMAZON |
| 23:34.25 | Fisker | Good amazon |
| 23:35.29 | znf | AH! |
| 23:35.32 | znf | FOUND A STORE THAT DELIVERS! |
| 23:35.53 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/NFucg5s.png |
| 23:35.55 | znf | :-| |
| 23:36.52 | sb | still qi thingy? |
| 23:38.04 | znf | no |
| 23:38.07 | znf | ordered that |
| 23:38.54 | znf | Just trying to find a damn good anti-perspirant :( |
| 23:39.33 | znf | I have no idea what's going on with me lately. I've even lost weight compared to last year, and I sweat like a pig. I go out and my armpits decide to do a niagara-falls on me. |
| 23:39.50 | znf | I have no idea what to try anymore, so I'm looking for more powerful anti-perspirants :-/ |
