| 00:06.46 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess * r180 (2 files in 1 directory): - bump fix libs |
| 00:07.48 | Repo | workwork: 03Starfox 07master * v1.9.1-2-gbbadbfd WorkWork.lua: [+1 commit] Make the icons slightly bigger |
| 00:08.11 | Repo | workwork: 03Starfox 04v1.9.2 * 2384867 /: [new tag] Tag 1.9.2 |
| 00:12.44 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess * r181 libs/AceEvent-2.0/: - fix libs |
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| 00:31.08 | Stanzilla | <3 peanut butter toasts |
| 00:35.59 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess 042.5.8 * r184 : - release |
| 00:42.17 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess * r185 (4 files in 2 directories): - missed re-adding lib |
| 00:43.07 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess 042.5.9 * r186 : - release |
| 00:46.48 | Neffi | <Stanzilla> <3 peanut butter toasts <- hmm. somebody told me you couldn't even really find peanut butter in Germany |
| 00:55.22 | Stanzilla | it's in my cupboard |
| 00:55.25 | Stanzilla | I can find it just fine |
| 01:05.06 | nebula169 | you can find it, it's just hazelnut stuff is more prevalent |
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| 01:13.07 | Stanzilla | nutella is everywhere |
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| 02:36.49 | Repo | rarity: 03allara * r408 (3 files in 1 directory): - Tooltip fix |
| 02:39.25 | Repo | rarity: 03allara 04r408-release * r409 : Tagging as r408-release |
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| 03:06.25 | znf | hey Stanzilla |
| 03:06.34 | znf | did you know it's 5 o'clock in the morning, conversation got boring? |
| 03:13.56 | Megalon | hey there, man from the future |
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| 04:17.07 | quiescens | ! |
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| 05:39.47 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess * r187 (5 files in 3 directories): - dependancy fix for optional lib |
| 05:40.23 | Repo | hellbender-dkp: 03celess 042.5.10 * r188 : - release |
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| 08:30.01 | sb | morning |
| 08:31.43 | sb | Neffi: there are some (german) us shops that sell peanut butter (e.g. reeses) - its also on amazon as 3rd party stuff |
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| 08:39.28 | sb | Stanzilla: i hate you :p |
| 08:39.54 | quiescens | that seems harsh o.o |
| 08:42.15 | sb | its okay |
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| 10:32.05 | Repo | grid-indicator-side-plus: 03kunda * r37 GridIndicatorSidePlus.lua: update |
| 10:51.57 | Repo | grid-indicator-side-plus: 03kunda 0460000-1 * r38 : Tagging as 60000-1 |
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| 11:17.36 | Gnarfoz | who wants some salad |
| 11:26.30 | wink | falafel > salad |
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| 11:52.50 | haste | I agree with wink. |
| 12:02.18 | sb | meat > no-meat |
| 12:29.57 | Gnarfoz | there was meat |
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| 12:36.38 | sb | THATS OK |
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| 12:50.03 | sb | Gnarfoz: where is metal 2015? :( |
| 12:57.25 | Torhal | Fleischsalat. |
| 13:00.10 | sb | ! |
| 13:22.43 | Stanzilla | sb: why |
| 13:22.51 | sb | Stanzilla: 31k :( |
| 13:22.58 | Stanzilla | without a single shield! |
| 13:23.37 | sb | hax |
| 13:24.09 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 13:24.12 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 13:24.17 | Fisker | sry but no fingerprints |
| 13:24.19 | Fisker | enjoy your magnet though |
| 13:24.20 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 13:24.50 | sb | heyme? :( |
| 13:25.14 | haste | hey sb |
| 13:25.29 | haste | have you tried using your nexus 5 lately Fisker |
| 13:26.31 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12559 (2 files in 2 directories): Bars: Put exact positioning widgets in their own group. |
| 13:27.13 | Fisker | nope haste |
| 13:27.15 | Fisker | Stanzilla has though |
| 13:33.39 | Stanzilla | Fisker: what magnet |
| 13:33.48 | Fisker | fingerprint magnet |
| 13:33.56 | Stanzilla | sb: when I look at my gear I'm feeling like I'm competing at the paralympics anyway |
| 13:34.01 | Stanzilla | Fisker: yeah the back of the n5 really is |
| 13:34.07 | sb | Stanzilla: why? |
| 13:34.14 | Stanzilla | sb: no mythic gear |
| 13:34.56 | Fisker | N6 isn't a fingerprint magnet though |
| 13:34.58 | Fisker | I like it |
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| 13:46.11 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12560 / (3 files in 2 directories): AltPower: Add exact positioning |
| 13:46.17 | sb | Stanzilla: go find some hair / dna traces and clone Fisker! |
| 13:46.25 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 13:54.44 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12561 Plugins/Proximity.lua: Proximity: Add exact positioning |
| 14:06.44 | sb | Stanzilla: why not? |
| 14:06.57 | sb | no moer work |
| 14:07.47 | sb | when do we get our blizz present? |
| 14:07.59 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12562 Plugins/Proximity.lua: Proximity: Tweak pulse. |
| 14:09.49 | Stanzilla | I dont get one |
| 14:10.50 | nevcairiel | they said it might be a few weeks for EU |
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| 14:13.54 | Gnarfoz | if you're getting one, you should have gotten the email by now, though |
| 14:14.08 | Gnarfoz | actual EU packages are going to be a while, like nev said |
| 14:14.21 | nevcairiel | I'm getting one \o/ |
| 14:14.25 | Gnarfoz | so am I |
| 14:14.53 | Gnarfoz | sb: I should just rename them #1, #2, #3 without years, so I can add earlier albums I like from bands I discover by listening to their newest release :D |
| 14:16.23 | Gnarfoz | I can place it next to my Matrix 2&3 style mech exoskeleton phone rest |
| 14:18.01 | Gnarfoz | which will make my desk quite crowded :D |
| 14:18.15 | Gnarfoz | have they shown up on ebay, yet? I wonder how many of these they had made/sent out |
| 14:18.30 | nevcairiel | US ebay has loads of them |
| 14:18.49 | nevcairiel | going for $500+ too |
| 14:19.37 | Gnarfoz | some for 220$ |
| 14:19.43 | Gnarfoz | (different search terms, I guess) |
| 14:19.48 | znf | yeah, someone on reddit said they're going for ~300 |
| 14:19.49 | znf | cheap |
| 14:19.59 | nevcairiel | well price may have dropped since friday or so when i checked |
| 14:20.21 | nevcairiel | US people got the package before the official announcement even |
| 14:20.35 | nevcairiel | good example of left and right foot not working in sync :P |
| 14:21.01 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 14:27.41 | sb | Gnarfoz: they better ship before i move to my new place! |
| 14:27.48 | sb | otherwise it could get lost :( |
| 14:27.53 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:28.07 | quiescens | why would you buy something and then move |
| 14:28.21 | sb | moving is in ~2 months |
| 14:28.30 | sb | also i didnt buy - its free! |
| 14:28.36 | sb | well "free" :D |
| 14:28.53 | sb | "free" as in 1560 eur |
| 14:29.02 | quiescens | i don't think 1560eur counts as free |
| 14:29.33 | sb | minus some annual pass magic / free days ;) |
| 14:29.47 | wink | buying 2 is still cheaper than being subbed for 10 years ;) |
| 14:30.01 | sb | how much are they on ebay? 500? :p |
| 14:33.05 | znf | http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-of-Warcraft-10th-Anniversary-Orc-Statue-Limited-Edition-NIB-WoW-/281566860674?pt=Games_US&hash=item418eb15582 |
| 14:33.53 | znf | http://www.ebay.com/itm/10th-Anniversary-World-of-Warcraft-Orc-Bronze-Statue-Unopened-/221664622682?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item339c3db85a |
| 14:34.12 | wink | they should've engraved the account name on the bottom :P |
| 14:34.18 | wink | or in a front plaque |
| 14:34.19 | sb | yup |
| 14:34.58 | znf | oh, let's see what my mythic cache yeilds |
| 14:35.04 | znf | probably the same head piece from kargath |
| 14:36.26 | znf | destabilized sandals, oh well |
| 14:36.33 | znf | and I'm ilvl 666 now |
| 14:36.43 | nevcairiel | if they wanted to engrave something, shouldnt be the account name, but perhaps inquire with everyone what they wanted there |
| 14:37.05 | wink | nevcairiel: doesnt help with selling then |
| 14:37.06 | wink | :P |
| 14:37.16 | wink | but *shrug* who would buy that thing |
| 14:37.35 | wink | it's like buying another person's "happy 10th comnpany anniversary" gift |
| 14:37.48 | wink | just looking cooler |
| 14:37.59 | znf | collectible, I guess |
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| 14:50.57 | sb | znf: then stop right there! |
| 14:51.26 | wink | hammertime! |
| 14:51.41 | wink | <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cAEjtvnMts |
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| 15:31.57 | Stanzilla | that is hilarious http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=22153 |
| 15:33.32 | Stanzilla | zarnivoop_: any truth to that? http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=333035&postcount=4275 |
| 15:35.35 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12563 Plugins/Proximity.lua: Proximity: Error fix |
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| 15:36.57 | Repo | weakauras-2: 03Stanzilla 07master * 2.0.9.8-14-g6862948 Prototypes.lua: [+1 commit] Add tristate "aggro" to threat trigger |
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| 15:43.15 | zarnivoop_ | Stanzilla: afaik no, and I play a mage, so I would surely have seen |
| 15:43.16 | Ressy | Stanzilla: Very amusing, especially considering to run 32 bit is an override checkbox. |
| 15:43.45 | Stanzilla | Ressy: yes :D |
| 15:43.49 | Stanzilla | zarnivoop_: okay, all good! |
| 15:49.41 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:49.51 | quiescens | nerf Stanzilla |
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| 16:44.54 | Timmeh | window 12 |
| 16:45.07 | nevcairiel | nope Timmeh, nope |
| 16:45.15 | Timmeh | :-( |
| 16:45.21 | Timmeh | the / is not with me |
| 16:45.33 | nevcairiel | thats what happens when you have a keyboard controlled irc client |
| 16:45.41 | nevcairiel | you fail at using it |
| 16:45.44 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:46.02 | Timmeh | apparently :-D |
| 16:51.41 | Gnarfoz | too bad |
| 16:52.05 | Gnarfoz | gotta do groceries before raid, I hate that |
| 16:52.10 | Gnarfoz | but fridge is super empty |
| 16:54.26 | Funkeh` | hey Gnarfoz wanna go to lidl together? |
| 16:54.30 | Funkeh` | on the exact same boat |
| 16:54.39 | nevcairiel | I played too much over the weekend again, going to take the next days off from wow until the next raid |
| 16:57.22 | Stanzilla | good old wow burnout |
| 16:58.10 | nevcairiel | its not like there is anything to do right now anyway! |
| 16:58.52 | Stanzilla | if you are not into alts, that is |
| 16:59.03 | nevcairiel | its also not like burnout, its just me trying not too play too much and waste all my freetime again:D |
| 16:59.20 | nevcairiel | i have one alt on 100, not much to do there either |
| 16:59.39 | nevcairiel | i could level more but shrug |
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| 18:00.15 | Repo | liblordfarlander-2-0: 03lordfarlander * r268 (10 files in 8 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 18:00.16 | Repo | - Fixes and changes for Coconuts |
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| 18:02.45 | Repo | coconuts: 03lordfarlander * r269 (5 files in 2 directories): (2 lines trimmed from commit message) |
| 18:02.46 | Repo | Coconuts: |
| 18:02.46 | Repo | - Improvements to mount management |
| 18:02.46 | Repo | - Running wild will work again |
| 18:02.46 | Repo | - New features for flying mounts in ground zones should work |
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| 18:56.12 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: let's roll |
| 18:57.14 | Fisker | I'll roll you Gnarfoz |
| 18:57.54 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, already been and came back :( |
| 18:58.03 | Gnarfoz | did you get me anything |
| 18:58.15 | Funkeh` | some ham? |
| 18:58.39 | Gnarfoz | not the worst offer! |
| 18:58.42 | Fisker | Where have you gone Funkeh`? |
| 18:58.53 | Gnarfoz | Lidl, he just said! |
| 18:58.58 | Funkeh` | food shopping |
| 18:59.55 | Fisker | oh |
| 18:59.58 | Fisker | Wasn't there 2 hours ago |
| 19:00.10 | Fisker | Didn't know Funkeh` was into lidl |
| 19:01.03 | Funkeh` | I'm into anything that doesn't attempt to bend me over price wise |
| 19:01.14 | Funkeh` | so right now that's lidl/aldi |
| 19:01.24 | Gnarfoz | first he was into it, then out of it, ~15 minutes later |
| 19:01.34 | Gnarfoz | (herp derp wrong words) |
| 19:08.26 | znf | I should go food shopping |
| 19:08.30 | znf | Oh! It's 9pm |
| 19:08.33 | znf | Fuck it |
| 19:10.13 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 19:13.17 | Fisker | I once ate food |
| 19:15.19 | Thunder_Child | znf: That's what deliveries are for. |
| 19:15.48 | znf | There's like 2 places which deliver here |
| 19:15.54 | znf | I'm bored of that food |
| 19:16.06 | znf | Oh crap, I don't have cash on me |
| 19:18.17 | Megalon | steal it |
| 19:21.05 | znf | I'll come to .at to do that |
| 19:27.01 | Thunder_Child | Who needs cash? |
| 19:45.33 | znf | card payments are not that popular here |
| 19:54.13 | Gnarfoz | because fraud |
| 19:56.25 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.25 | znf | weee |
| 19:56.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, wouldn't put it just to that |
| 19:56.43 | Gnarfoz | your uptime is bad and you should feel bad |
| 19:56.44 | znf | people I know of my age and younger don't even have bank accounts |
| 19:57.31 | znf | nevermind the uptime |
| 19:57.35 | znf | look at the load avg |
| 19:59.02 | Thunder_Child | How do you not have a bank account? |
| 19:59.10 | Thunder_Child | Keep boxes of cash? |
| 19:59.32 | Gnarfoz | I know what the paste was about |
| 19:59.34 | Gnarfoz | just saying |
| 20:00.11 | Gnarfoz | unless you have one of those kernel patching things, you're probably vulnerable to... something |
| 20:01.03 | znf | Thunder_Child, we're romanian, who has boxes of cash?! |
| 20:01.36 | Fisker | aren't you the guys that go to denmark to steal stuff? |
| 20:01.47 | Thunder_Child | znf: Jewish Romanians? |
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| 20:36.54 | Stanzilla | nebula169: pretty sure my random auras showing up on boss frames problem is because of the anchors branch |
| 20:37.11 | Gnarfoz | it's because of your mom! |
| 20:37.13 | Gnarfoz | I bet |
| 20:37.25 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:37.29 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 20:37.30 | znf | holy fuck @ redis + wordpress |
| 20:37.31 | znf | :o |
| 20:37.33 | znf | color me impressed |
| 20:37.34 | Gnarfoz | drink with me, Stanzilla |
| 20:37.37 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:37.59 | Gnarfoz | znf: you're impressed by stuff being stored in memory accelerating a huge-ass application? ^^ |
| 20:38.08 | Gnarfoz | (well, why not, it's awesome) |
| 20:38.15 | znf | Gnarfoz, I'm impressed as memcached was being horrile |
| 20:38.17 | znf | horrible |
| 20:38.31 | znf | or, rather, just wasn't keeping up |
| 20:38.35 | Gnarfoz | that's surprising, I doubt they're usedfor different things |
| 20:38.47 | znf | guessing I'm using a completely different system |
| 20:38.48 | znf | or something like that |
| 20:38.57 | Gnarfoz | memcache is very bare low-complexity, maybe it was being used sub-optimally |
| 20:39.02 | Gnarfoz | -bare |
| 20:39.09 | znf | could be |
| 20:39.12 | znf | I'm using this now: https://github.com/BenjaminAdams/wp-redis-cache |
| 20:39.13 | Gnarfoz | (redis isn't, it's a high-level thingamabob) |
| 20:39.44 | znf | let's see, clearing varnish cache |
| 20:40.12 | Repo | dkdiseases: 03talryn1 07master * 6.0-1-g05ed9c2 (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add Necrotic Plague timer with options. |
| 20:43.05 | znf | hmmm, servers' still getting hammered |
| 20:43.12 | znf | wonder wtf is it causing this huge load |
| 20:43.48 | znf | (maybe the fact that I have 581 concurrent http connections at the moment) |
| 20:44.39 | Gnarfoz | the http connections are probably not the issue - rather what they're accessing |
| 20:44.44 | Gnarfoz | is it all dynamic content>? |
| 20:44.53 | Gnarfoz | or are non-logged in users seeing static stuff or something |
| 20:45.20 | znf | non-logged in users should see whatever varnish caches |
| 20:45.39 | znf | varnish is set to cache all dynamic content |
| 20:46.08 | znf | 127 load avg |
| 20:46.09 | znf | :-/ |
| 20:47.51 | znf | I know it's one of these $deity damn shitty pluggins messing it up, question is which |
| 20:48.54 | Stanzilla | breser: are you interested in bug reports for the anchors branch? |
| 20:56.40 | znf | I guess something is causing *stuff* to never cache, somehow |
| 20:56.52 | znf | redis reports the page being cached, but it never serves it from cache |
| 21:27.42 | Repo | big-wigs: 03funkydude * r12565 (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:27.42 | Repo | Bars: Just use the "break ends in x minutes" message for the break start announcement. |
| 21:36.16 | Gnarfoz | znf: have a lot of processes in "D" state? ^^ |
| 21:37.01 | znf | no |
| 21:37.16 | znf | R / S |
| 21:37.19 | znf | mostly R |
| 21:37.49 | Gnarfoz | no D? hm. Sounds like you're just over capacity (herp derp I'm smart) |
| 21:38.23 | znf | I'm still blaming it on the SQL traffic |
| 21:38.25 | Gnarfoz | (clearly, the question is "why") |
| 21:38.35 | znf | Network traffic since startup: 2.2 TiB |
| 21:38.35 | znf | This MySQL server has been running for 1 days, 9 hours, 31 minutes and 50 seconds. It started up on Jan 18, 2015 at 02:06 PM. |
| 21:41.25 | Gnarfoz | that seems... well, quite a bit, but not necessarily excessive |
| 21:41.48 | znf | it's 1GB/minute |
| 21:42.00 | nevcairiel | I would consider that excessive for some silly wordpress site, but then I hate wordpress as it is |
| 21:42.19 | nevcairiel | its one of those things with a terrible code base and even more terrible plugin base but without alternatives worth recommending |
| 21:43.39 | znf | from what I can tell, something's stopping the cache to work properly |
| 21:43.48 | znf | because a cached page shouldn't be served in 13 seconds... |
| 21:43.56 | Gnarfoz | 20 MiB/s |
| 21:44.16 | znf | and too many hits are hitting the webserver (apache) instead of being served by varnish |
| 21:44.29 | Gnarfoz | clearly sounds like a description fitting the symptoms |
| 21:44.45 | znf | varnish *is* doing something, but clearly not enough |
| 21:44.57 | Gnarfoz | the 13s/cached page thing is very bad |
| 21:45.09 | znf | if I purge the cache, the load avg. goes up to ~200 until it caches stuff again |
| 21:45.10 | Gnarfoz | if it's cached, it should be near instantaneous |
| 21:45.26 | znf | so this redis solution is not that good :-/ |
| 21:45.42 | Gnarfoz | I doubt that's your problem |
| 21:45.51 | Gnarfoz | but I have no clue about WP or your setup |
| 21:45.53 | znf | if I run it from cli, I get "<!-- displaying page without cache -->" |
| 21:45.56 | znf | then at the end |
| 21:45.59 | Gnarfoz | (your setup including WP is a problem in and of itself ^^) |
| 21:46.46 | znf | <!-- Cache system by Benjamin Adams. Page generated in 40.73433 seconds. --> |
| 21:46.46 | znf | <!-- Site was cached = 1 --> |
| 21:46.57 | znf | "site was cached", but not really... |
| 21:47.17 | Neffi | sounds like Benjamin Adams isn't doing his job too well |
| 21:47.27 | znf | a 2nd run should serve it instantly from cache... |
| 21:49.06 | znf | Gnarfoz, not much I can do, really. Their whole country is crap, they couldn't find a decent web developer even if they tried |
| 21:55.12 | znf | I really can't figure out what's invalidating all my caching attempts |
| 21:58.10 | Gnarfoz | Clearly, this content is not intended for general consumption |
| 22:02.37 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/KtjBWeq.png |
| 22:03.41 | Stanzilla | wasnt there some new cache in php5.5? |
| 22:03.58 | znf | yeah, that's enabled, doesn't really seem to do anything in my environment |
| 22:04.17 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/GVkAK6E.png |
| 22:07.02 | Stanzilla | does it interfere with memcached? |
| 22:07.41 | znf | it shouldn't |
| 22:08.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah, those are different things |
| 22:08.24 | Gnarfoz | your opcache hit quota is... 0? |
| 22:08.29 | Gnarfoz | that's... disconcerting |
| 22:08.29 | znf | yup... |
| 22:09.30 | znf | I think it's because we're using suPHP |
| 22:09.41 | Gnarfoz | that still exists?! |
| 22:10.00 | Gnarfoz | I thought that was very broken a long time ago |
| 22:10.03 | nevcairiel | isnt that a function of base php now |
| 22:10.11 | nevcairiel | or base apache anyway |
| 22:10.14 | nevcairiel | one of those! |
| 22:10.25 | znf | let's change this to fcgi, see what happens |
| 22:10.38 | Gnarfoz | mod_php is ridiculous anyway :o |
| 22:10.53 | znf | ideally I should use php-fpm |
| 22:10.55 | znf | but... cpanel |
| 22:10.59 | nevcairiel | fcgi gave me much improvement at one time |
| 22:11.00 | znf | son of a bitch cpanel |
| 22:11.11 | nevcairiel | get rid of that thing already? |
| 22:11.21 | Gnarfoz | are you creating new sites all day long? :o |
| 22:11.37 | znf | I'm not... |
| 22:11.48 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea what cpanel is good for, tbh |
| 22:11.55 | znf | but, like I said, I'm mostly "part time" admin-ing that thing |
| 22:11.55 | nevcairiel | probably the old reason "have moron users that need access to it for some moronic reason" |
| 22:12.03 | znf | ^ pretty much |
| 22:12.15 | nevcairiel | tell them to gtfo or find a new admin :P |
| 22:12.38 | Stanzilla | what does cpanel do |
| 22:12.55 | nevcairiel | its a admin panel for maintaining web server, mail and whatnot configs |
| 22:13.00 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 22:13.02 | Stanzilla | get froxlor! |
| 22:13.09 | nevcairiel | get a freaking text editor |
| 22:13.13 | znf | last week I was wondering why it wasn't purging varnish cache when a new post was published |
| 22:13.22 | znf | only to find out someone disabled the varnish plugin in wordpress |
| 22:13.25 | znf | I was like... why? :-| |
| 22:13.42 | nevcairiel | i havent seen a single of those admin panel thingys that didnt limit me in some way or another |
| 22:13.55 | znf | they're all annoying as hell to use |
| 22:14.14 | Gnarfoz | they can all only do as much (and as well as) the people who make them can imagine |
| 22:14.24 | nevcairiel | on first glance froxlor looks interesting at least, but no serious admin would use anything like this either way |
| 22:14.34 | znf | the company I used to work years ago has a linode (managed by me); they hired a new guy to take care of other things (and a new webmaster), he asked for cpanel |
| 22:14.36 | znf | I told him to gtfo |
| 22:14.36 | nevcairiel | they are all for hobby admins |
| 22:16.01 | znf | I would gladly switch everything to nginx + php-fpm |
| 22:16.14 | znf | but then I would have to take care of other craps when wordpress stuff assumes apache |
| 22:16.31 | nevcairiel | even apache + php-fpm might help a lot of things |
| 22:16.48 | Repo | big-wigs: 03nebula169 * r12566 Highmaul/Brackenspore.lua: |
| 22:16.48 | Repo | Brackenspore: fix Creeping Moss heal, add Spore Shooter marking |
| 22:16.58 | Stanzilla | if you still need some panel for non-technical people to manage stuff, froxlor is really good though |
| 22:17.08 | znf | I tried it once, but cpanel decided to it doesn't like it |
| 22:17.17 | Executioner | that froxlor doesn't even look bad |
| 22:17.19 | znf | s/to/that/ |
| 22:17.36 | nevcairiel | heck if you've been using suphp, even fcgi might help :p |
| 22:17.46 | znf | yeah, load is down to 0.48 now... |
| 22:18.33 | Executioner | .48 load, what the hell are you doing |
| 22:18.47 | nevcairiel | .48 is pretty low, what do you want o.o |
| 22:19.39 | nevcairiel | znf: if you settle on fcgi, might check that apache uses the worker mpm now, and not prefork (which may have been required for suphp) ... if cpanel lets you switch that... :p |
| 22:19.47 | Executioner | executioner@vps69881:~$ uptime |
| 22:19.47 | Executioner | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.53 | znf | I think it uses event |
| 22:20.04 | znf | let me recheck, I recompiled apache last week |
| 22:20.07 | nevcairiel | i guess event is fine too |
| 22:20.51 | nevcairiel | Executioner: if a server is actually serving stuff, then a bit of load is quite normal :p |
| 22:21.09 | Gnarfoz | up to $number-of-cpus |
| 22:21.25 | Gnarfoz | (where cpu = threads runnable, "logical cores") |
| 22:21.25 | Executioner | what do you run on yours? |
| 22:21.30 | znf | seeing that there's still a few hundreds users online :P |
| 22:21.38 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ZYjfZcT.png |
| 22:21.39 | Gnarfoz | he's serving some not-idle wordpress site |
| 22:21.45 | znf | and that's just on one website |
| 22:21.52 | Gnarfoz | *sites, then :D |
| 22:21.57 | Gnarfoz | (worse for him) |
| 22:22.01 | nevcairiel | its kind of crazy how IO factors into the load, it makes interpretation non-trivial sometimes |
| 22:22.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's not like that on other *nix |
| 22:22.28 | znf | I mean, I currently have 223 ESTABLISHED http-connections |
| 22:22.30 | znf | that's A LOT |
| 22:22.35 | Gnarfoz | that's not your problem at all, though |
| 22:22.45 | znf | no, but it's an indication of how many hits it's serving |
| 22:22.52 | Gnarfoz | 223 at least! |
| 22:22.52 | nevcairiel | switching to fcgi brought down cpu load a lot already, so thats good |
| 22:23.08 | znf | I was reading the LiteSpeed website yesterday |
| 22:23.18 | Gnarfoz | do me a favour and check the php opcache stats again now? |
| 22:23.20 | znf | and they mentioned something that "normally, web servers don't handle more than 100 connections at a time" |
| 22:23.22 | znf | Gnarfoz, works now |
| 22:23.44 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/lu8cpbU.png |
| 22:23.45 | Gnarfoz | does your apache config have something silly like 1 request per worker in it or something |
| 22:23.58 | Gnarfoz | making it spawn 1 child, run PHP once, then die? |
| 22:23.59 | znf | no, it uses keep_alive |
| 22:24.04 | Gnarfoz | well, now it does, at least |
| 22:24.40 | znf | ha, this is nice: http://i.imgur.com/AniRHn3.png |
| 22:24.45 | Gnarfoz | znf: 100 connections at a time? meh. that sounds like nonsense, if you're busy enough, it's going to be higher of course |
| 22:25.16 | Gnarfoz | and by "enough" I mean... 1 client's browser is going to open 2-4 connections alone |
| 22:25.22 | nevcairiel | opcache alone will probably bring down cpu on a page like wordpress already quite a bit |
| 22:25.32 | Executioner | http://screens.executioner1337.net/iotop.png well, not much running on mine :D |
| 22:25.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, yours is twiddling thumbs |
| 22:25.56 | znf | Executioner, you don't have ~2mil sessions/month across websites |
| 22:26.02 | Executioner | yuo |
| 22:26.05 | Executioner | *yup |
| 22:26.20 | Gnarfoz | his is actually doing things, but that still doesn't mean a load of 40 times the available CPUs is acceptable :D |
| 22:26.35 | Gnarfoz | (well, that was just a guess, how many logical cores DOES it have?) |
| 22:26.44 | znf | 8 |
| 22:26.47 | znf | i7-4770 |
| 22:26.53 | pompy | http://www.twitch.tv/deadmau5 :o |
| 22:27.00 | Gnarfoz | yeah, not too far off, then ^^ |
| 22:27.44 | Executioner | http://screens.executioner1337.net/htop_150119.png okay, it runs some stuff. well, I just don't get why ts3 has so many threads |
| 22:27.56 | Gnarfoz | because it can |
| 22:28.03 | Gnarfoz | never mind threads :D |
| 22:28.09 | nevcairiel | i tend to hide threads in htop, its really pointless information |
| 22:28.11 | Repo | cassandra: 03rmh4209 07master * v0.0.5-3-g0ed4605 (26 files in 13 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 22:28.11 | Repo | 0ed4605: marking as 0.0.6-DEV |
| 22:28.12 | Repo | 01e592c: including Ace3 in .pkgmeta |
| 22:28.12 | Repo | 7fb5d1f: removing hard embedded libraries |
| 22:28.12 | Gnarfoz | probably 1 (or possibly more than 1) per client |
| 22:28.46 | Executioner | 1 per client? hardly. afaik there's one serverquery, and one real client up now |
| 22:29.09 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 22:29.23 | nevcairiel | it may as well do threads for other things |
| 22:30.06 | znf | the only place I found thread display to be nice is in oscam |
| 22:30.11 | Gnarfoz | mine has 25 threads, for... random things :D |
| 22:30.19 | Stanzilla | Fisker: @AndroidPolice: [Update: 5.0.2 For Nexus 7 2013] [Flash All The Things] Lollipop Nexus OTA ZIP File Roundup http://t.co/Dw7170uzJK |
| 22:30.26 | znf | oscam has this concept of readers and clients and proxies |
| 22:30.34 | znf | so each thread is named after the specific reader/client/proxy |
| 22:30.37 | Executioner | how about apache2? one thread started 10 others, seen in the tree view |
| 22:30.48 | nevcairiel | apache just does that, depending on your mpm |
| 22:30.49 | Gnarfoz | pompy: I switched to "source" quality and the sound is still crap :( |
| 22:30.59 | nevcairiel | worker or event just spam threads for processing requests |
| 22:31.03 | Gnarfoz | Executioner: basic worker/children setup |
| 22:31.41 | Executioner | mysqld? that one has ~30 |
| 22:31.58 | Gnarfoz | use gdb and find out |
| 22:32.05 | Gnarfoz | why do you care? :D |
| 22:32.32 | Gnarfoz | they split stuff up so if it's actually necessary, it can make use of your CPU's capacity, I guess |
| 22:32.35 | nevcairiel | mysql spawns a thread for each connection, and it pools the threads it has |
| 22:32.38 | znf | sql traffic is still insane :( |
| 22:33.00 | znf | Network traffic since startup: 1 GiB |
| 22:33.00 | znf | This MySQL server has been running for 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes and 35 seconds. It started up on Jan 20, 2015 at 12:32 AM. |
| 22:33.02 | Gnarfoz | make them stop requesting ALL the things |
| 22:33.18 | nevcairiel | uncached wordpress is known to be terrible on the DB |
| 22:33.56 | nevcairiel | speaking of, i should turn of the outdated wordpress hosting my unused blog and just put up a static website with the 2 pages of actual content on there |
| 22:34.15 | znf | I can do static caching of pages (to disk) |
| 22:34.21 | znf | and I can do object caching |
| 22:34.24 | Executioner | okay, that gdb is not a program that I want to check how it actually works, since it's 23.33 here with 5h30min before waking |
| 22:34.24 | znf | and database |
| 22:34.25 | znf | etc. etc. |
| 22:35.14 | Executioner | outdated wordpress hosting? way to get hacked |
| 22:35.37 | Gnarfoz | multi-threaded programming is the way to madness, don't delve too deep |
| 22:36.14 | nevcairiel | yeah even experienced developers get headaches from multi-threading often enough |
| 22:36.25 | nevcairiel | i can attest to that |
| 22:36.29 | Executioner | it is! I made my screenshotter app to upload on a separate thread and it hogs all resources |
| 22:36.42 | Gnarfoz | http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=aa43bd51 derp >_> |
| 22:36.49 | Executioner | yet I fucked it up, because it doesn't upload the last packet |
| 22:37.01 | Executioner | (and I'm too lazy to fix it) |
| 22:38.22 | Gnarfoz | http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu?CMP=share_btn_fb haha |
| 22:38.42 | Gnarfoz | why do those things always turn out that way? :P |
| 22:38.52 | Repo | cassandra: 03rmh4209 07master * v0.0.5-5-g342c905 (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 22:38.53 | Repo | 342c905: some misc changes |
| 22:38.53 | Repo | 9c000ca: changing to loot money and quest items by default |
| 22:39.05 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: because politicians lie |
| 22:39.52 | nevcairiel | ireland is an obvious choice for first, but really, germany? silly UKians, move to france! |
| 22:40.46 | Gnarfoz | they hate each other, though |
| 22:42.35 | nevcairiel | some fun facts in there, UKians not getting a job because the concept of "Ausbildungsberuf" is rather unique in germany, that all these other countries never really adopted it, it seems like a solid thing |
| 22:43.46 | *** join/#wowace webturtle0 (~webturtle@69.51.143.78) |
| 22:43.46 | Gnarfoz | I didn't read that far, that's curious |
| 22:44.01 | Gnarfoz | what DO young people in the UK do after A-levels? |
| 22:44.23 | Gnarfoz | (excepting higher education) |
| 22:46.43 | nevcairiel | just start working i guess? |
| 22:46.46 | Fisker | what about it Stanzilla ? |
| 22:47.05 | Gnarfoz | with no experience? learn on the job? that's not going to go well, is it |
| 22:47.21 | Gnarfoz | Junge, warum hast du nichts gelernt... :D |
| 22:47.55 | Gnarfoz | Die Ãrzte, relevant at odd times |
| 22:48.55 | nevcairiel | the concept of "Apprenticeships" does exist in other countries including the UK, but its still quite distant from the german system |
| 22:49.24 | Gnarfoz | I think that has more parallels to German "Lehre" |
| 22:49.30 | Stanzilla | Fisker: I thought you have an n7 |
| 22:50.35 | Gnarfoz | House of Cards, The Blacklist; or The Judge, Fury, A Walk Among the Tombstones, The Drop, Gone Girl, blah blah |
| 22:50.51 | nevcairiel | what |
| 22:50.53 | Gnarfoz | (don't say "blah blah", I'm going to stab you over the internet) |
| 22:51.02 | Gnarfoz | what to watch :) |
| 22:51.14 | Gnarfoz | first two: series, the rest: movies |
| 22:51.24 | Stanzilla | house of cards is amazeballs |
| 22:51.26 | nevcairiel | i liked house of cards, a walk among the tombstones was ok but not great |
| 22:51.47 | nevcairiel | dont know the others |
| 22:51.52 | nevcairiel | been meaning to watch the blacklist |
| 22:51.52 | znf | I fell asleep watching tombstones |
| 22:52.38 | nevcairiel | Also, I didnt realize Fury was the english name of that movie |
| 22:52.40 | znf | Gnarfoz, The Equalizer? |
| 22:52.56 | Gnarfoz | already seen it |
| 22:53.21 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, I was confused; was picking out movies to watch at the cinema |
| 22:53.42 | Gnarfoz | and I was like "is this a Manowar movie" and then "this can't be the US title" |
| 22:54.03 | Gnarfoz | but my guess at the US title was nowhere near the actual one ;D |
| 22:54.25 | nevcairiel | did you notice how german titles often like to add some weird subtitle to it? |
| 22:54.29 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:54.41 | Gnarfoz | we've had this topic a couple of times in here over the years, I think ;D |
| 22:54.48 | nevcairiel | possibly! |
| 22:54.49 | Gnarfoz | they rarely make sense, they're superfluous, they add nothing |
| 22:55.01 | nevcairiel | sometiems they are even quite wrong |
| 22:55.02 | Gnarfoz | in recent times, they're sometimes not even in German! |
| 22:55.08 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:55.11 | Stanzilla | see captain america |
| 22:55.13 | Gnarfoz | so you get: Captain America: |
| 22:55.15 | Gnarfoz | blah |
| 22:55.16 | Gnarfoz | yeh |
| 22:55.18 | Gnarfoz | perfect example |
| 22:55.24 | Gnarfoz | what was it in that case again? |
| 22:55.35 | Gnarfoz | return of the first avenger? |
| 22:55.36 | Stanzilla | the winter soldier |
| 22:55.39 | Stanzilla | vs the first avanger |
| 22:55.40 | Stanzilla | *e |
| 22:55.44 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:55.45 | nevcairiel | the first movie had the original title |
| 22:56.02 | Megalon | winter veil soldier! |
| 22:56.14 | Gnarfoz | I swear they use one of those cheap CMS tag clouds, print out various states of it, then throw darts at it |
| 22:56.52 | nevcairiel | the german title wasnt all bad on captain america anyway, i've seen worse |
| 22:56.58 | Gnarfoz | "Frozen" is "Die Eiskönigin - Völlig unverfroren" |
| 22:57.05 | nevcairiel | yeah that one is terrible |
| 22:57.15 | Megalon | http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/How_Some_Shirts_Are_Made.jpg |
| 22:57.21 | Megalon | they probably do something along those lines :P |
| 22:57.22 | znf | wasn't the original title Winter Veil Soldie?! |
| 22:57.23 | nevcairiel | but kids movie i guess, needed a kid friendly name |
| 22:57.25 | znf | Soldier |
| 22:57.26 | Gnarfoz | "Die Eiskönigin" I can accept, it's almost the fairy tale's name |
| 22:57.37 | Gnarfoz | but why the extra bonus title |
| 22:57.40 | nevcairiel | znf: Captain America: The Winter Solider |
| 22:57.51 | znf | oh |
| 22:57.54 | znf | and in german it was how? |
| 22:58.06 | Gnarfoz | Captain America: Return of the First Avenger, I think? |
| 22:58.14 | nevcairiel | The Return of the First Avenger |
| 22:58.19 | nevcairiel | no captain america even |
| 22:58.47 | nevcairiel | http://www.moviepilot.de/files/images/movie/file/10974531/captain-america-2-poster-1.jpg |
| 22:58.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I didn't even notice they threw out "Captain America" |
| 22:59.09 | Gnarfoz | probably because cinemas did the sane thing and put "Captain America" back in there |
| 22:59.14 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:59.24 | znf | oh |
| 22:59.26 | znf | weird |
| 22:59.37 | nevcairiel | german movie titles are just weird |
| 22:59.43 | Gnarfoz | if the purpose was to adapt the title to German... they failed marvellously by making it a 100% english title |
| 22:59.53 | znf | Romanian ones are weird, too |
| 23:00.00 | znf | Sometimes people tell me romanian movie names |
| 23:00.01 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: yeah, I need that comic as a t-shirt. |
| 23:00.06 | znf | and I can't figure out what was the original one |
| 23:00.12 | nevcairiel | for "Fury", i wouldnt even know how to translate that 1:1 to make some sense, but sitll, they invented a new title entirely too :D |
| 23:00.44 | Gnarfoz | I haven't seen the movie, but I imagine it's actually a fitting title |
| 23:00.57 | nevcairiel | the german one or fury? |
| 23:01.01 | Gnarfoz | (the German replacement one, I mean) |
| 23:01.09 | nevcairiel | yeah it sounds ok |
| 23:01.16 | Gnarfoz | Fury seems to mean the opposite thing |
| 23:01.27 | nevcairiel | it was like out of the cinema after one week, so we didnt get a chance to watch it |
| 23:01.38 | Gnarfoz | really? |
| 23:01.43 | nevcairiel | must've not been very popular |
| 23:01.45 | nevcairiel | maybe 2 |
| 23:01.51 | Gnarfoz | it's still going in Hannover |
| 23:01.58 | nevcairiel | (and with out i mean moved to 23:00) |
| 23:02.05 | Gnarfoz | well ok, it only started on New Year's Day |
| 23:02.18 | Gnarfoz | that's not even 3 weeks, you're right |
| 23:02.23 | Gnarfoz | I hadn't really noticed :D |
| 23:02.38 | nevcairiel | it was already at 23:00 last week when we went to the cinema |
| 23:02.42 | Gnarfoz | probably because the first time it came up it was still 2014 and thus, it wasn't running yet |
| 23:02.43 | nevcairiel | so max 2 weeks at prime-time |
| 23:03.12 | Gnarfoz | the whole lineup at the moment is just bad, though |
| 23:03.21 | Gnarfoz | nothing worth watching was available |
| 23:03.47 | nevcairiel | going to see taken3 on thursday, if its anything like 1 and 2 it should at least be entertaining for a bit |
| 23:04.06 | Gnarfoz | utterly random topic change: why is my DECT phone not registered with the base station?! |
| 23:04.31 | nevcairiel | and the new disney movie may have promise |
| 23:04.44 | znf | I find it weird to see people still using fixed landlines |
| 23:04.44 | Gnarfoz | it was probably out of battery for a week or so, is it possible its registration timed out? |
| 23:05.00 | Gnarfoz | they're VoIP anyway, what's the difference |
| 23:05.07 | nevcairiel | i guess that may be possible |
| 23:05.10 | Fisker | oh I do Stanzilla |
| 23:05.16 | Fisker | Don't really use it though |
| 23:05.50 | znf | Gnarfoz, I mean a fixed phone that doesn't leave the house :) |
| 23:05.54 | Gnarfoz | funny, base station actually claims the phone is registered |
| 23:06.02 | Gnarfoz | but the handset just blinks "Base" at me |
| 23:06.35 | znf | I know only one person who still has a fixed phone in their household |
| 23:06.36 | Gnarfoz | znf: what's even weirder: I call or receive calls maybe once a month, tops. And still I have two phones! |
| 23:06.37 | znf | no, wait, 2 |
| 23:06.57 | nevcairiel | i have one because i have one, but i dont use it |
| 23:06.57 | znf | (but the 2nd one is actually using it as a fax) |
| 23:07.16 | nevcairiel | i probably faxed more over that line since i got it than phoned |
| 23:07.40 | Gnarfoz | znf: many people don't have "all net flat rate" plans on their mobile phones here |
| 23:08.00 | Gnarfoz | but they at least have "call other landlines at flat rate" on their landline |
| 23:09.32 | znf | my old mobile subscription also had a fixed rate for landline phones |
| 23:09.45 | znf | but they stopped giving those options, as peopel weren't interested |
| 23:09.59 | nevcairiel | you can get that here if you want, but not many do |
| 23:10.26 | nevcairiel | and when you have internet, you usually get phone for no extra cost thrown into it, so people have it, and they have phones from ages ago, so why not connect them :D |
| 23:11.16 | nevcairiel | i only use my landline to call microsoft product activation hotline, since mobile isnt free :P |
| 23:11.33 | Gnarfoz | the 0800 number isn't free from your mobile? |
| 23:11.47 | nevcairiel | i think its blocked from mobile |
| 23:12.04 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure I've ever tried |
| 23:12.28 | znf | you call that alot? :D |
| 23:12.44 | nevcairiel | not a lot, but it happens |
| 23:13.05 | nevcairiel | i do a lot of installs on different test hardware |
| 23:13.14 | znf | I see |
| 23:13.27 | znf | uhm, then question, why do you use a license key on test hardware? |
| 23:13.45 | znf | win7/8 runs without a license key for ~30 days afaik? |
| 23:13.53 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 23:14.03 | nevcairiel | windows 8.1 is kinda pissy if you dont activate |
| 23:14.06 | Gnarfoz | well, the enterprise eval version runs for 90 days |
| 23:14.17 | znf | it is? I'm pretty sure it's 30 days O.O |
| 23:14.19 | znf | at least 8.1 |
| 23:14.22 | znf | the pro one |
| 23:14.30 | nevcairiel | it is, but some functions are blocked |
| 23:14.30 | Fisker | Win 8 runs indefinitely, just complains |
| 23:14.32 | Gnarfoz | can't even click "continue" when installing 8.1 (non-pro OEM) without entering a key, I just tried 4 days ago :o |
| 23:14.51 | nevcairiel | i always use the generic master key when installing |
| 23:14.55 | Fisker | Yeah some metro stuff is blocked |
| 23:14.56 | nevcairiel | because MS was dumb |
| 23:14.59 | znf | I think it only asks you for a key when installing it from windows? |
| 23:15.05 | znf | mine doesn't ask for a key |
| 23:15.06 | Fisker | Which is a feature almost |
| 23:15.19 | Gnarfoz | I don't have a clue, it was straight from the dvd |
| 23:15.25 | nevcairiel | znf: installing from a boot stick or dvd also asks for a key |
| 23:15.31 | Gnarfoz | but I don't know about the master key thing |
| 23:15.35 | znf | I always install from a USB stick |
| 23:15.38 | znf | never asks me for a key O.O |
| 23:15.41 | Fisker | It'll ask for a key with the Microsoft supplied installers |
| 23:15.54 | znf | oh, I just have the .iso from MSNDA I think? |
| 23:16.03 | Fisker | But anyone can just integrate it in the installer |
| 23:16.09 | nevcairiel | maybe you integrated the key, yeah |
| 23:16.12 | znf | SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_8.1_32BIT_English_MLF_X18-96671 |
| 23:16.16 | znf | SW_DVD5_Win_Pro_8.1_64BIT_English_MLF_X18-96634 |
| 23:16.30 | znf | I was under the impression it's an untouched iso |
| 23:17.17 | Gnarfoz | it probably is, but these are the tiny differences between OEM/DSP/SB, retail, enterprise, MSDNAA, etc - I guess |
| 23:17.25 | nevcairiel | in any case, 8.1 setup doesnt recognize a 8 key, but once you finished installing, an 8 key works just fine (as it should), so during install a use the generic key (which is even documented on MSDN, so no fishy business), and switch to my real key once install is done ... hope they fix this shit with 10, if its a free update again |
| 23:17.50 | nevcairiel | also, there is a official tool from MS now that can download a fresh and untouched ISO and install it on a usb stick |
| 23:18.19 | znf | I still use Rufus |
| 23:18.44 | znf | it's so much faster than the windows 7 dvd/usb download tool |
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| 23:18.49 | nevcairiel | well the point is not installing on the stick, but downloading the official iso from an authoritative source |
| 23:19.11 | nevcairiel | (and its not that tool, its a new one for 8.1) |
| 23:19.12 | znf | oh, I missed the download part! |
| 23:19.41 | znf | my iso's md5 is 49b428d6fb1a1e53c0682aed76664c2b |
| 23:19.55 | nevcairiel | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media |
| 23:20.33 | nevcairiel | can either apply it to a USB stick directly or save to ISO |
| 23:20.58 | znf | that tool is awesome |
| 23:21.34 | znf | 10 minutes for download, nice |
| 23:21.41 | nevcairiel | yeah their servers are fast |
| 23:22.05 | nevcairiel | no need to hunt fishy sources for presumably untouched ISOs anymore |
| 23:26.28 | znf | and always getting the latest stuff! yay! |
| 23:26.56 | Stanzilla | I wish they would update those isos |
| 23:27.18 | Stanzilla | so yo udont have to spend 3hours downloading/installing patches after a fresh install |
| 23:30.34 | znf | true |
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| 23:32.52 | znf | mkay, need a show to watch |
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