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| 05:45.32 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10631925&postcount=2453 |
| 05:45.53 | pompy | goto sleep |
| 05:46.26 | quiescens | gives pompy a cookie |
| 06:24.47 | wink | you people all spoiled me. |
| 06:25.02 | wink | been drycoding some feature (at work) for a few days and not even run it once yet :P |
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| 06:25.24 | wink | nb: over the span of a few days, time spent: 2h |
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| 07:05.03 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: thanks, free games are always nice |
| 07:06.50 | Stanzilla | indeed |
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| 07:38.59 | nevcairiel | mythic brf cache day, hopefully some l uck this week |
| 07:42.25 | Fisker | never l ucky |
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| 07:55.55 | sb | morning |
| 07:56.19 | sb | Gnarfoz: no - i have +/- keys on my keyboard and use them to adjust the system volume |
| 07:58.33 | sb | ohhh, znf complaining about issues with cracked software - made my day :D |
| 07:58.40 | sb | also - whats spoi? :p |
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| 07:58.57 | sb | there is ~no content on that page |
| 08:02.33 | sb | Stanzilla: dateutil/parser.py in C:\Tools\sublime3\Data\Installed Packages\StringUtilities.sublime-package is not utf-8 encoded, unable to load plugin |
| 08:02.34 | sb | wtf? :p |
| 08:02.59 | Stanzilla | why me |
| 08:03.20 | sb | because issue-master! |
| 08:03.31 | Stanzilla | I have an issue with that! |
| 08:03.43 | quiescens | Stanzilla can fix anything o.o |
| 08:03.57 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/akalongman/sublimetext-stringutilities/issues/4 |
| 08:04.00 | Stanzilla | I can googly anything |
| 08:04.57 | Fisker | I once killed a googly |
| 08:06.01 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/akalongman/sublimetext-stringutilities/issues/3 |
| 08:06.06 | Stanzilla | this cracked me up |
| 08:06.16 | Stanzilla | VIA CHINESE is just awesome |
| 08:07.07 | sb | removed that plugin |
| 08:08.21 | sb | something is broken here - package control doesnt load :o |
| 08:08.26 | sb | i should just go home |
| 08:10.13 | sb | http://blog.askmrrobot.com/2015/05/team-optimizer-testing-in-game-looting/ - loot council / ML addon!? :o |
| 08:10.40 | sb | all players have to isntall the addon - yay, not going to happen |
| 08:11.56 | nevcairiel | we use rc loot council now, we just told everyone that they install it or they dont get anymore loot, that worked wonders |
| 08:12.31 | quiescens | or kick them |
| 08:12.33 | quiescens | kick them all! |
| 08:15.11 | wink | lol |
| 08:15.25 | wink | what does a ml/rc loot addon do? |
| 08:15.32 | wink | I mean.. why would the people need it? |
| 08:15.49 | Stanzilla | so they dont have to whisper |
| 08:15.54 | Stanzilla | if they have need/second etc |
| 08:16.03 | Stanzilla | they just click a button |
| 08:16.04 | sb | just click a button |
| 08:16.13 | nevcairiel | the way we use it, it shows a list of all the loot to everyone, and they can click a button with upgrade/sidegrade/second |
| 08:16.15 | sb | + provide a nice ui for the masterlooter with current item / new item etc. |
| 08:16.21 | nevcairiel | which makes it much easier for our ML |
| 08:16.38 | wink | I see |
| 08:16.59 | nevcairiel | the ML also sees the current item that person has in that slot, so he can make a good decision |
| 08:17.09 | wink | we just linked it |
| 08:17.17 | nevcairiel | before, we had people post in raid chat with their current item |
| 08:17.22 | nevcairiel | loot distribution always took ages |
| 08:17.27 | nevcairiel | now it fast |
| 08:17.28 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:17.30 | nevcairiel | *its |
| 08:17.43 | wink | we linked the item to show interest, then the person who longest didnt get smth got it |
| 08:17.48 | wink | not perfect, but pretty fair |
| 08:18.17 | nevcairiel | we try to favor handing out BiS over random small upgrades, unless maybe there is a huge ilvl gap to be closed |
| 08:18.28 | wink | that only works if you raid a lot, imho |
| 08:18.36 | wink | i.e. you see your BiS drop more often |
| 08:18.53 | nevcairiel | well, you only need to raid enough to kill the same things every week |
| 08:19.03 | wink | nothing is fair.. and tbh, after ~13 months raidfree I can't imagine how I obsessed over loot |
| 08:19.12 | wink | wekll, I didnt, really. but som,e did |
| 08:19.38 | nevcairiel | i would say our 6 hours a week total isnt "a lot |
| 08:19.41 | nevcairiel | +" |
| 08:20.33 | Semlar | loots nevcairiel |
| 08:20.46 | Semlar | why do you have my car keys |
| 08:21.29 | nevcairiel | need someones car keys |
| 08:21.44 | sb | you accidently looted znf |
| 08:22.06 | Semlar | it happens |
| 08:22.46 | sb | meh, another "guild merge" happening, test-raid with 5-7 players from another guild - not happy about it |
| 08:23.01 | wink | nevcairiel: true |
| 08:23.07 | nevcairiel | we need a handful of more range dps |
| 08:23.18 | sb | i looked up their logs |
| 08:23.20 | sb | its awful :o |
| 08:23.30 | wink | nevcairiel: looks good? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Aggramar/avathara/advanced |
| 08:23.31 | sb | i think "our" guild/raid lead doesnt know about that |
| 08:23.44 | Semlar | this addon has 3 different versions of the ubuntu font with it |
| 08:23.44 | nevcairiel | wink: needs alliance |
| 08:23.55 | wink | nevcairiel: so ilvl is fine, cool :D |
| 08:24.12 | sb | http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/combatlog/3a2f8489-3c92-49d8-be26-7480e1f52d3c/report/61#v=0,d=0 |
| 08:24.21 | sb | i have no idea what they are doing |
| 08:24.43 | Stanzilla | afk |
| 08:24.52 | Stanzilla | also why amr logs |
| 08:24.57 | nevcairiel | sb: that is horrible, and i thought our dps was terrible |
| 08:25.01 | wink | sb: http://www.darklegacycomics.com/152 |
| 08:25.02 | Stanzilla | I understand shit on that site |
| 08:25.06 | sb | nevcairiel: it is |
| 08:25.26 | sb | nevcairiel: what i don't get though is: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/combatlog/224ec7ef-0d7f-469e-a235-7135a27894ed/report/205#v=0,d=0 |
| 08:25.30 | sb | thats pretty good :o |
| 08:25.35 | sb | okay - not "good" |
| 08:25.38 | sb | but also not THAT bad... |
| 08:25.52 | Stanzilla | crit luck |
| 08:25.54 | Semlar | what's a jungfern |
| 08:25.59 | Stanzilla | maiden |
| 08:25.59 | nevcairiel | a maiden |
| 08:26.06 | Stanzilla | that site is so horrible |
| 08:26.07 | Semlar | aoe fight |
| 08:26.12 | Stanzilla | most unintuitive navigation ever |
| 08:26.16 | sb | yes... |
| 08:26.32 | Stanzilla | sb: tell them my lfr mage does more with eyes closed |
| 08:27.13 | Semlar | i don't like iron maidens because hunters can't really cleave that great on 3 targets |
| 08:27.15 | sb | maiden dps is fine - i dont get that |
| 08:27.21 | Stanzilla | it's not |
| 08:27.38 | nevcairiel | we have a few terrible dpsers, and even those do more dps then theirs |
| 08:27.38 | Stanzilla | he is doing dps he should be doing in a single target fight (even less) |
| 08:27.41 | Stanzilla | on a multi target fight |
| 08:27.44 | Stanzilla | how is that fine |
| 08:28.09 | sb | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Kk8nCyvxPRNJ3pYm#fight=20&type=damage-done |
| 08:28.11 | Semlar | i have no idea what anyone's ilevel is on this site |
| 08:28.13 | wink | Semlar: to be totally correct, jungern is a word prefix that means "maiden's" - maiden would be jungfer. but as it happens, unrelatedly, jung and fern are also 2 words - young and far |
| 08:28.28 | sb | Stanzilla: look at wcl... our logs |
| 08:28.29 | Semlar | i see |
| 08:28.39 | Stanzilla | I cant, need to sleep |
| 08:28.40 | wink | Semlar: err, it could also be the plural. so also maidens. sorrry. |
| 08:28.43 | Stanzilla | cant even see straight anymore |
| 08:28.52 | wink | Semlar: don't even start with german. not worth it :D |
| 08:29.10 | wink | better learn something sane. like Finnish, or Klingon |
| 08:29.18 | Semlar | how about chinese |
| 08:29.23 | wink | it's also hard |
| 08:31.51 | Semlar | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dkrxv62jRg3M9cAz#fight=6&type=damage-done |
| 08:31.59 | sb | nevcairiel: not sure if our dps is better then :| |
| 08:32.11 | sb | meh Semlar :o |
| 08:32.17 | Semlar | :( |
| 08:32.26 | sb | okay, wait |
| 08:32.30 | nevcairiel | Semlar: l2dps, dont let your poort pet do all the work |
| 08:32.30 | sb | there is one thing explaining our dps |
| 08:32.39 | sb | we do a 20-30s dps stop |
| 08:32.46 | nevcairiel | why |
| 08:32.53 | sb | because all bosses are at 25% |
| 08:32.57 | sb | to force the 3rd ship |
| 08:33.04 | nevcairiel | why do you want the 3rd ship |
| 08:33.04 | Semlar | why not just dps through it |
| 08:33.05 | nevcairiel | just skip it |
| 08:33.07 | sb | and nuke 1 boss without turrets |
| 08:33.49 | Semlar | do you gain anything by going onto the boat |
| 08:33.52 | znf | sb: don't be so smug about it. My issue is with chrome dev. |
| 08:34.03 | Semlar | i'm not sure what the point of delaying that long would be |
| 08:34.40 | nevcairiel | its definitely going to take much longer, you need to do the ship phase, you need to evade the grenades, instead of just killing a few turrets here and there |
| 08:34.40 | bluspacecow | drama llama! |
| 08:34.42 | sb | Semlar: bombs + 2 bosses (nuke 1) is easier than turrets + 3 bosses (nuke one) |
| 08:34.50 | Fisker | mein gutt im himmel Stanzilla |
| 08:34.59 | sb | nevcairiel: i dont like the dps stop.. |
| 08:35.02 | sb | because dps stop cant be good! |
| 08:35.06 | sb | but its not my point to decide :D |
| 08:35.25 | sb | maybe i should tell them i want to be part of the raid/guild lead |
| 08:35.37 | nevcairiel | turrets are totally overrated, as long as range dps just kills them and you dont end up with 2 or more, they are no problem at all |
| 08:35.53 | Semlar | oh you get extra time to dps the bosses without the turrets while the people are doing the boat, i get it |
| 08:36.04 | Semlar | we just kill the turrets |
| 08:36.07 | nevcairiel | us too |
| 08:36.39 | sb | nevcairiel: some people are dying to turrets - then we dont have enough ranged dps to catch up - wipe :p |
| 08:36.43 | Semlar | and by "we" i mean the ranged who can switch to them |
| 08:36.57 | nevcairiel | sb: then they suck, evading turrets is super easy |
| 08:37.01 | nevcairiel | especially if its only one |
| 08:37.02 | sb | dont tell me :D |
| 08:37.05 | Semlar | you shouldn't really have more than one turret up at a time |
| 08:37.12 | Semlar | so dodging it should not be that big of a deal |
| 08:37.39 | Semlar | although i guess you could have more depending on the situation |
| 08:38.16 | sb | i'm 4k ahead the 2nd in dps - and one of them is a rogue who has 2 dps stop phases (on ship waiting to return, because return-click doesnt work sometimes) and the general dps stop |
| 08:38.32 | sb | so i have no idea what the other ranged dps are doing there |
| 08:39.01 | Semlar | https://youtu.be/KXm_EqX1Plw this is me every time |
| 08:39.23 | sb | :D |
| 08:41.59 | sb | so i guess it will be fun tonight with the new guys - bottoming the meters |
| 08:43.35 | Semlar | i just afk while my pet does everything |
| 08:43.52 | Semlar | actually i come back every 30 seconds to hit barrage |
| 08:44.50 | sb | that explains a lot |
| 08:45.00 | sb | hunters are on #1, #2, #3 for the first 2-3 minutes of the fight |
| 08:45.13 | Semlar | probably just stampede |
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| 08:46.35 | Semlar | i have an enhancement shaman in my group that can burst harder than i can |
| 08:46.44 | sb | 100k burst at fight start... |
| 08:48.50 | nevcairiel | mages can also burst quite a lot with bit of luck |
| 08:49.52 | Semlar | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XZJ7GH6bKh3WrRny#fight=20&type=damage-done&source=3 |
| 08:51.02 | Semlar | i don't know why they waited 15 seconds to bloodlust |
| 08:51.22 | nevcairiel | to screw you over |
| 08:51.38 | nevcairiel | we tend to simply "forget" these days, and then someone remembers and clicks =p |
| 08:52.50 | sb | wait.. |
| 08:53.12 | sb | thats ~65% dmg from your stupid pet? |
| 08:53.43 | Semlar | my pet could probably outdamage some of your raiders |
| 08:54.32 | sb | i failed at grull this week - i can't play CoP anymore :o |
| 08:54.35 | sb | gruul |
| 08:55.00 | Semlar | in all fairness that's merging stampede and the set bonus into my pet's damage |
| 08:55.54 | Semlar | the set summons like 1 stampede pet to fight while you have beastial wrath up |
| 08:56.33 | sb | so thats 1 more button, right? :p |
| 08:57.01 | Semlar | i do have to tell my pet to attack |
| 08:58.04 | Megalon | is it still called rotation when you only press one button the entire fight? |
| 08:58.11 | Semlar | how dare you |
| 08:58.19 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: rotating his finger in his nose |
| 08:58.37 | Semlar | rotating my face on the keyboard |
| 09:00.29 | Gnarfoz | sb: your timing is impeccable - we also just merged with another guild again :D |
| 09:00.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: does it work well? (RC LC) |
| 09:01.22 | Gnarfoz | I've debated adopting it for us, too, since our (not really LC) loot distribution system has a bit of overhead I'd like to eliminate... |
| 09:01.32 | sb | Gnarfoz: not sure how this merge will go alogn though... |
| 09:01.41 | Semlar | https://youtu.be/1yX1rzTZbgQ?t=9m43s |
| 09:02.08 | sb | Semlar: why do you have your HP% in the center of your screen? :| |
| 09:02.16 | Semlar | so i know how dead i am |
| 09:02.36 | sb | and your name...? :p |
| 09:02.54 | Semlar | just a reminder |
| 09:03.14 | sb | "oh, right, i'm playing my hunter at the moment" |
| 09:03.23 | Semlar | bodypull is not just a name, it's a way of life |
| 09:04.17 | Gnarfoz | like drycode |
| 09:04.36 | Megalon | i would have expected your name to be more like swagyolo420blazeiterazrxXx |
| 09:04.41 | Semlar | also it's part of my nameplate addon so it looks like the rest of the nameplates |
| 09:05.14 | sb | Gnarfoz: that AMR loot addon looks promising - but early alpha, so meh... |
| 09:05.15 | wink | hahaha |
| 09:05.34 | Semlar | i can't fit all that in the character naming box |
| 09:05.57 | Megalon | :-( |
| 09:05.58 | wink | your font etc looks liek it fits more into SWTOR |
| 09:07.18 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: rc lc works fine |
| 09:08.02 | Semlar | https://youtu.be/c-OMebAoMYs?t=5m23s this is my favorite |
| 09:08.59 | sb | wink: i read a post from your ex-employer (?) yesterday - does this really work out? (payment based on team opinion etc.) |
| 09:10.12 | Semlar | my opinion is that they should pay me more |
| 09:11.10 | sb | you are not a team |
| 09:11.12 | nevcairiel | more is always better, but i'm actually pretty happy with the money i make right now |
| 09:11.12 | sb | you are hunter. |
| 09:11.19 | Gnarfoz | sb: well, that's a bit more than we actually need, it'd just be nice to not have to deal with manual rolls of different ranges to indicate different levels of "need" |
| 09:11.21 | Semlar | i'm a one man team |
| 09:11.36 | Semlar | team semlar |
| 09:11.36 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: we had that before, it was annoying |
| 09:11.50 | sb | Gnarfoz: there is no "more than we need" |
| 09:11.56 | sb | more is always better! :D |
| 09:12.05 | Gnarfoz | not if you want to maintain usability |
| 09:12.09 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 09:12.30 | nevcairiel | and we try to do a somewhat loot-council now, although often it ends up with the ML saying "X and Y, roll" |
| 09:12.31 | sb | lacking usability is just incompetence of user! |
| 09:12.59 | nevcairiel | but then we're nearly all full heroic geared, so big "needs" on loot are limited at this point in content |
| 09:13.54 | Semlar | we've killed mythic oregorger if that counts for anything |
| 09:14.24 | Semlar | he didn't drop any hunter loot so i don't count it |
| 09:15.02 | nevcairiel | we dont have enough people for mythic, but we also still work on blackhand heroic, so there is that |
| 09:15.07 | sb | same |
| 09:15.17 | wink | sb: I am not sure they do this with the payment, really, htought it was just about abandoning titles. and I don't know, soon will be 2yrs since I left |
| 09:16.06 | sb | wink: johann wronte something about payment in the comments section |
| 09:16.16 | wink | ah, k |
| 09:16.24 | wink | didnt check back to the post |
| 09:20.50 | sb | wtb mythic wf trinket from brf cache today! |
| 09:21.23 | Semlar | nope, another helm |
| 09:23.59 | wink | sb: found it. hmm, I don't know, ask him :) But in summer '13 there was hardly anything of that. and there especially wasn't much of a progression for paychecks. |
| 09:24.55 | nevcairiel | unfortunately, thats a recurring scheme for companies, increasing your salary is not something they do, practically forcing you to swap jobs every couple years to get a increase by getting a better contract from the start |
| 09:24.56 | sb | just wondered how this works - couldnt imagine something like that. because i know that my coworkers aren't that good - so they should get that much money :p |
| 09:26.18 | sb | nevcairiel: yes... and new employees earning more from the beginning than you (after ~5years) |
| 09:26.34 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 09:26.47 | nevcairiel | thats why you need to change jobs, so you're that guy =p |
| 09:26.52 | nevcairiel | thats also why I quit |
| 09:26.59 | nevcairiel | making around 100% more than I did before |
| 09:27.08 | sb | there should be larger adjustments (+/- 10%) to compoensate for that |
| 09:27.12 | nevcairiel | and thats before bonus, which I already got 2 of this year |
| 09:27.48 | sb | but if you are lucky the increase its somewhere in the "inflation rate" region |
| 09:28.08 | nevcairiel | we had a tarifvertrag which increased by 2-3% every year |
| 09:28.13 | nevcairiel | which is just the inflation rate |
| 09:28.13 | sb | you are special - doing all that important stuff |
| 09:29.02 | sb | yup - we have 2-5% / year (no tarifvertrag), depening on "performance" (but without any negotiation, just "thats how we see you, take it") |
| 09:29.38 | sb | and telling stuff like "you have the biggest % increase in your department" |
| 09:29.46 | wink | nevcairiel: 100% is harsh |
| 09:30.09 | nevcairiel | performance was a bit different with us, we got 90% monthly and the 10% in one big "bonus" payment every year, and depending on performance, this bonus payment scaled up a few % |
| 09:30.19 | wink | I don't have bonuses and I like it |
| 09:30.27 | wink | because measuring them is 90% bullshit in dev |
| 09:30.31 | wink | it works for sales or something |
| 09:30.42 | sb | i like our bonus system :o |
| 09:30.45 | sb | its fine for dev here |
| 09:31.02 | nevcairiel | Currently, I just get a mail every couple month that I'm getting another bonus payment, i dont know why or how, and i dont care, its just a random bonus =P |
| 09:31.20 | nevcairiel | I wont say no to an extra $4000! |
| 09:31.30 | nevcairiel | (before taxes) |
| 09:31.37 | sb | you have 1 based on ebit (cant do much about that) which is 1/3, then 1/3 "fakturierbare stunden" (>= 80% is 100% bonus) and 1/3 personal goals ("do this implementation", "do that whatever") |
| 09:31.37 | sb | etc. |
| 09:31.53 | nevcairiel | old job basically worked like that |
| 09:32.01 | sb | sadly - everything but the personal goals is bound to the ebit... |
| 09:32.29 | sb | so if you fail to reach that (cant do anything about taht) - you will only get 1/3 - without failing personally :o |
| 09:33.06 | nevcairiel | when i first started, it was common for everyone in the team to get at least 100% bonus, with the majority even getting 110% or so, unfortunately management changed, and the new strategy was that no team could exceed 100% in average, so if i'm getting 110%, someone else has to get below 100 to compensate |
| 09:33.16 | sb | oh |
| 09:33.29 | sb | nah, in theory 120% for everyone is "fine" |
| 09:34.31 | nevcairiel | they have been working on crazy cost cutting measures in IT for a long time at that place |
| 09:34.35 | nevcairiel | which was also a factor why i left |
| 09:34.42 | nevcairiel | just drained lots of the fun |
| 09:34.58 | sb | but to get 120% in "fakturierbare stunden" you have to work overtime (so you have >=100%) and tell them "i dont want to have those free time - take it, its fine" |
| 09:35.44 | sb | so it could be abused :p |
| 09:38.29 | Gnarfoz | don't entertain the idea that that is intentional |
| 09:38.32 | Gnarfoz | that'd be crazy talk |
| 09:38.53 | Gnarfoz | bonuses... we don't has them |
| 09:39.16 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, feedback talk with bossman next Wed |
| 09:40.26 | Gnarfoz | wonder how I should put the "if I quit and started somewhere else, I'd get a bigger jump in salary than any raise you'd ever give me, so what are we going to do about that?" ^^ |
| 09:40.43 | wink | hehe |
| 09:40.45 | sb | :D |
| 09:41.22 | wink | yeah, everything's kinda shitty as soon as money is involved |
| 09:41.43 | wink | like, why work where you are totally happy if the pay is below 70% of market value |
| 09:41.53 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 09:42.09 | wink | even the possibility to be equalluy happy for 30% more money is.. too miuch |
| 09:42.20 | wink | I wouldnt try to leave for 10% |
| 09:42.32 | wink | but from 30% it's kinda stupid to stay |
| 09:42.34 | Gnarfoz | perhaps not "totally", but I'd have to move, I don't know what kind of work environment $newjob would be until after quite a while of working there, etc |
| 09:42.41 | wink | yeah sure |
| 09:42.49 | wink | that's why I don't blindly go anywhere :P |
| 09:42.58 | wink | I only interviewed at companies where I knew devs |
| 09:43.02 | wink | when I last changed jobs |
| 09:43.17 | Gnarfoz | I hate people, so knowing people anywhere is kind of rare |
| 09:43.18 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 09:43.25 | wink | point |
| 09:43.29 | sb | Gnarfoz: we need SAP people! :p |
| 09:43.34 | wink | but I only hate 90% of people |
| 09:43.38 | wink | so enough to work with |
| 09:44.17 | mitch0 | SAP is the pit of doom |
| 09:48.17 | sb | :| |
| 09:48.48 | quiescens | don't do it o.o |
| 09:49.37 | wink | ./cast Sap |
| 09:51.56 | quiescens | dies. |
| 10:28.30 | Gnarfoz | not entirely surprised, but the magnitude is amazing http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/19/8621581/sony-music-spotify-contract ^^ (http://heise.de/-2657247) |
| 10:28.57 | Gnarfoz | music labels are the worst, apparently |
| 10:30.21 | Fisker | ew Gnarfoz |
| 10:30.24 | Fisker | Well that's not new |
| 10:39.06 | nebula169 | would be interesting if the big three music labels were broken up and forced to compete against each other |
| 10:40.21 | Gnarfoz | would be interesting if the entire crazy machinery could be eliminated ;] |
| 10:40.48 | nebula169 | well yea, good luck getting rid of the riaa/mpaa dinosaurs |
| 10:43.46 | Gnarfoz | xyaa doesn't concern me in particular |
| 10:44.34 | Gnarfoz | fuck I'm too scatter-brained, don't know which task to start next |
| 10:47.31 | sb | go home! |
| 10:47.51 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz a cookie |
| 10:47.53 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:58.17 | Fisker | I once scattered some brains |
| 11:03.44 | Megalon | with egg and olive oil? |
| 11:03.45 | Megalon | mmmm |
| 11:18.20 | Gnarfoz | hehe https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFb_wBeWAAAkFJv.jpg:large |
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| 11:38.40 | sb | i bet nevcairiel did that! |
| 11:39.27 | quiescens | nev is sekretly evil |
| 11:42.02 | bluspacecow | seeeekrrreets |
| 11:49.52 | Fisker | Stanzilla I came |
| 11:50.19 | wink | lol, ancient mails: |
| 11:50.26 | wink | > well, that's all - and good luck with wowwiki - great organization and |
| 11:50.26 | wink | keep up the good work with running wowwiki |
| 11:50.35 | wink | (a few years before wowpedia) |
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| 12:13.03 | Executioner | uhh is there really no round/math.round function? |
| 12:13.59 | nevcairiel | function round(n) return math.floor(n+0.5) end |
| 12:14.39 | bluspacecow | http://jesseengland.net/index.php?/project/e-book-backup |
| 12:14.41 | bluspacecow | wat. |
| 12:15.56 | Gnarfoz | function round(x) return x>=0 and math.floor(x+0.5) or math.ceil(x-0.5) end ? :D |
| 12:16.04 | Gnarfoz | dat negative number |
| 12:18.46 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/mRsLvzt |
| 12:18.57 | bluspacecow | swedish cop movies R silly |
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| 12:22.04 | Torhal | bluspacecow is a Swedish cop in New Zealand. |
| 12:23.28 | Torhal | He's also so silly that nobody remembers what happened to the original Zealand. |
| 12:24.33 | Megalon | silly Torhal, it's all explaind in The NewZealand Story |
| 12:24.42 | Torhal | TL;DR |
| 12:25.56 | bluspacecow | ya ya i is silly |
| 12:26.05 | bluspacecow | HURG! |
| 12:26.18 | bluspacecow | hurgie durgie durg *toss salad forks in air* |
| 12:26.20 | Megalon | no read, only play Torhal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rEJCa_Ztz4#t=0m27s |
| 12:27.12 | bluspacecow | omg Cadaver ? now that sends me back |
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| 13:02.01 | Executioner | Gnarfoz: thanks |
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| 13:43.53 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:47.19 | quiescens | gives blu a cookie |
| 13:47.37 | bluspacecow | *noms cookie* |
| 14:11.49 | znf | heh Stanzilla https://adblockplus.org/blog/adblock-browser-is-here |
| 14:46.18 | pompy | https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10981826_10153283092448529_1802297913380367832_n.jpg?oh=266e9de92e4d1ef24ec56b15cbaf954b&oe=55CBCB92 |
| 14:47.51 | Megalon | don't use your moms size as a password, the field can only take that many Xs |
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| 15:59.21 | Kesava | so is it possible for someone to take over/maintain a project if it's marked as abandoned and the author hasn't logged in for 3+ years |
| 15:59.39 | Kesava | or would i just need to branch it |
| 16:01.36 | Kesava | also is jadedcat here |
| 16:04.43 | Ressy | Jaded is on EsperNet in #curseforge |
| 16:04.47 | Kesava | ah |
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| 16:35.50 | Fisker | I remember when Torhal was silly and invited her to the #mmo-champion refugee camp Ressy |
| 16:40.01 | Torhal | Kesava: Depending on the license, you'd need to fork. We don't transfer project anymore due to too many instances of people returning after a year or two and WTFing that they were no longer in control. |
| 16:40.13 | Torhal | So the code license may permit forks, but the project is simply owned. |
| 16:40.20 | Kesava | that makes sense |
| 16:40.27 | Kesava | but the "abandoned" banner is out of date :D |
| 16:40.46 | Torhal | Yeah, we're also doing zero work on the existing CurseForge. |
| 16:40.52 | Kesava | yeeah |
| 16:40.54 | Torhal | Everything is on the new platform. |
| 16:41.12 | Ressy | When is that being released? |
| 16:41.30 | Megalon | tuesday |
| 16:41.35 | Torhal | 2020 according to Stanzilla, who is a reliable source. |
| 16:48.38 | sb | https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html |
| 16:48.45 | sb | (old) |
| 16:53.08 | Fisker | I believe the best site isn't affected |
| 16:53.10 | Fisker | https://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ |
| 16:54.22 | bluspacecow | ! |
| 16:54.34 | bluspacecow | itsmovingwtfwhyisitmovingthisisscaryhelpfisker |
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| 17:24.26 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/kne3tDy.png |
| 17:24.44 | znf | Fisker is hacking me |
| 17:25.03 | Fisker | Y |
| 17:25.17 | quiescens | report him |
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| 17:36.23 | sb | http://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/bahn-streik-im-live-ticker-lokfuehrerstreik-das-ist-der-ersatzfahrplan-der-bahn_id_4693472.html Stanzilla nevcairiel Gnarfoz need confirmation |
| 17:36.40 | sb | http://i.imgur.com/3OnHisn.png |
| 17:36.50 | sb | that "sixt" ad |
| 17:37.02 | sb | malware or intended ads? |
| 17:41.36 | nevcairiel | i dont get it |
| 17:41.41 | nevcairiel | but i have adblock |
| 17:42.20 | sb | i have ublock |
| 17:47.11 | Megalon | don't have it with adblock |
| 17:47.11 | sb | so malware |
| 17:47.11 | sb | damn. |
| 17:47.11 | Megalon | shows up when i disable adblock |
| 17:47.12 | sb | oh |
| 17:47.12 | sb | so its from focus.de |
| 17:47.12 | Megalon | subscribe to more lists |
| 17:47.12 | Megalon | :P |
| 17:49.24 | Gnarfoz | sb: that's from today, that's not really old, is it? |
| 17:49.43 | wink | they see ublockin, they hatin' |
| 17:50.26 | sb | easlist fixed it |
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| 17:50.54 | Gnarfoz | ublock & no in-text ad for me |
| 17:51.08 | Gnarfoz | but I probably have different/more lists enabled than you did |
| 18:03.34 | Megalon | enable all the lists! |
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| 20:33.36 | Gnarfoz | http://www.speedtest.net/result/4374270843.png yay |
| 20:35.57 | nevcairiel | neat |
| 20:36.47 | nevcairiel | 100mbit vdsl is only coming to big cities in 2016 |
| 20:36.54 | nevcairiel | or so was my latest infoi |
| 20:40.04 | Gnarfoz | the weird thing is, apparently they don't put a cap on the downstream |
| 20:40.21 | nevcairiel | cap like what |
| 20:40.30 | nevcairiel | you get over 100 sometimes? |
| 20:40.40 | Gnarfoz | down (effective) is 109.3, which is also what the line is synced at, but up (effective) is 20.0, even though the line is synced at 28.5 |
| 20:40.50 | Gnarfoz | currently trying to |
| 20:41.11 | Gnarfoz | speedtest.net is not multithreaded, so I'm half-amazed it even reaches those numbers it does |
| 20:41.28 | Gnarfoz | but for some weird reason I only get pitiful speeds downloading from my own FTP |
| 20:41.44 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:41.45 | Gnarfoz | (upload, even single-threaded is fine and maxes out the 20) |
| 20:42.27 | nevcairiel | i should move into an area with telekom fiber, there is one not too far from here |
| 20:43.31 | Fisker | I got telekom fiber nevcairiel |
| 20:43.33 | Fisker | if you know what I mean |
| 20:43.39 | nevcairiel | i dont |
| 20:43.42 | nevcairiel | enlighten me? |
| 20:44.02 | Fisker | runs |
| 20:44.13 | Megalon | he gets fibre from the telekom |
| 20:44.27 | Megalon | his poops are .... |
| 20:44.44 | Gnarfoz | da fuq |
| 20:44.59 | Gnarfoz | prett much precisely 10 Mbit/s, that can't be a coincidence |
| 20:45.29 | nevcairiel | did you exceed bandwidth and got capped? |
| 20:47.20 | Stanzilla | helllooo |
| 20:47.37 | nevcairiel | byyeeee |
| 20:47.54 | Megalon | damn, he really hates you stolenlegacy |
| 20:47.56 | Megalon | Stanzilla |
| 20:48.00 | Megalon | stupid tab :< |
| 20:48.07 | Stanzilla | watupdog |
| 20:48.43 | Stanzilla | time for some ota and windows update fun |
| 20:49.31 | nevcairiel | my N9 OTA'ed finally |
| 20:49.42 | nevcairiel | and it broke my old video playing app, now i had to use a new one :( |
| 20:49.51 | Megalon | awww |
| 20:49.54 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:49.56 | Stanzilla | what did you use? |
| 20:49.57 | Stanzilla | mx player? |
| 20:50.04 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 20:50.35 | nevcairiel | old $work app, which just uses Android MediaPlayer, which for some reason doesnt play any videos anymore .. but we have a new one in development with uses ExoPlayer, and that works perfectly \o/ |
| 20:51.00 | Stanzilla | cool |
| 20:51.26 | nevcairiel | its just not very optimized for tablet screens yet, so it has tiny icons to click on |
| 20:51.28 | nevcairiel | i should work on that |
| 20:53.51 | Stanzilla | man shits going fast |
| 20:53.58 | Stanzilla | n5 updated, n4 next, win10 download almost donw |
| 20:54.09 | nevcairiel | wtb win10 final |
| 20:54.12 | nevcairiel | i'm somewhat excited |
| 20:54.16 | Stanzilla | why? dx12? |
| 20:54.34 | nevcairiel | dunno, new things, hopefully fixes to multi-monitor and high-dpi |
| 20:54.42 | Stanzilla | dx12 is the only thing I'm excited about in win10 |
| 20:56.20 | Fisker | I downloaded mine while I was at the airport |
| 20:56.24 | Fisker | everything in Windows 10 is awesome |
| 20:58.25 | Torhal | Even malware, Fisker? |
| 20:58.31 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:58.38 | Torhal | Whoah. |
| 20:59.53 | Stanzilla | Fisker is a class #1 fanboy :D |
| 21:02.17 | Stanzilla | let me rephrase that: Fisker is best at embracing any new software advancements |
| 21:07.43 | Fisker | i h8 Microsoft Stanzilla |
| 21:07.48 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 21:08.19 | Fisker | y |
| 21:08.38 | Megalon | Fisker is like the bipolar, shizophrenic version of a fanboi |
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| 21:12.39 | Funkeh` | https://torrentfreak.com/netflix-needs-bittorrent-expert-to-implement-p2p-streaming-150520/ |
| 21:12.58 | Fisker | but legit though Stanzilla |
| 21:13.09 | Funkeh` | there better be sane throttling *has flashbacks of spotify killing his connection* |
| 21:13.12 | Fisker | they're really fixing up the modern ui shit |
| 21:13.33 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/5MsdK3Q.png well, I guess my Fritz!Box is lying. http://i.imgur.com/e9YmA9Q.png |
| 21:13.35 | Stanzilla | yeah still not there yet |
| 21:13.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ^ |
| 21:13.46 | Fisker | It's aeons better than windows 8/8.1 |
| 21:14.13 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 21:14.15 | Gnarfoz | also, amazing network overhead on that download speed. |
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| 21:17.13 | Stanzilla | VM is updating ~~ |
| 21:19.08 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: interesting: http://i.imgur.com/fTf0hwi.png |
| 21:20.55 | Gnarfoz | so the remaining question is, could this be improved by using profile 30a instead of 17a |
| 21:21.08 | Stanzilla | 8 blackrock caches inc |
| 21:23.13 | Semlar | tries to calm stanzilla down |
| 21:23.30 | Stanzilla | no |
| 21:25.03 | Stanzilla | lol nice try microsoft http://i.imgur.com/fnAKCnv.png |
| 21:26.54 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 21:27.00 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/a/CQkzQ |
| 21:27.17 | Fisker | skype for outlook.com? |
| 21:27.18 | Fisker | u wot m8 |
| 21:27.23 | Gnarfoz | also, are 8 more Mbit/s worth paying 3â¬/month :p |
| 21:27.46 | Stanzilla | Fisker: yeah? |
| 21:28.09 | Gnarfoz | (those 8 should be up to 20, but I'm too far away/signal quality too bad) |
| 21:28.11 | Stanzilla | that HS screenshots don't tell me a thing |
| 21:28.30 | Fisker | I'm awesome |
| 21:29.07 | Megalon | how would you come to that conclusion |
| 21:29.56 | Stanzilla | Fisker: is that promotion for 100 HS wins => HotS mount already live? I think not? |
| 21:30.06 | Fisker | oh no Stanzilla |
| 21:30.11 | Fisker | it's just me winning 12 wins in arena |
| 21:31.12 | Stanzilla | oh ok |
| 21:31.13 | Stanzilla | gz then |
| 21:32.04 | Fisker | https://store.google.com/category/skrillex_live_cases |
| 21:32.08 | Fisker | UNACCEPTABLE |
| 21:39.32 | Stanzilla | http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/05/video-on-demand-comes-to-mobile/ |
| 21:39.40 | Stanzilla | With this release, weâve made some changes to our Android app to address a possible security vulnerability. The change requires you to download and install a completely new app rather than update the old one. We know this isnât ideal, and weâll do our best to make it a one-time deal. |
| 21:39.43 | Stanzilla | wellll |
| 21:40.20 | Megalon | what |
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| 21:44.26 | sb | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fXg4KZTdnhWjGbcB#type=damage-done sooo bad |
| 21:47.36 | Stanzilla | :;( |
| 21:49.40 | sb | 75% |
| 21:49.42 | sb | and #1 |
| 21:49.43 | sb | .... |
| 21:50.34 | Semlar | nerf shadow priests |
| 21:52.16 | hizuro | fuchsie... as hunter. afk+autohit ^^ |
| 21:52.57 | Semlar | still higher than that ret paladin |
| 21:53.43 | hizuro | oh, ret pala... not the tank? xD |
| 21:54.27 | Semlar | how do these hunters have so much damage taken, i'm almost always dead last for that |
| 21:55.58 | Semlar | i got 1 piece of armor with avoidance on it and it reduces aoe damage by 6.36% |
| 21:56.24 | Semlar | if you had that on multiple pieces of gear that would be pretty good |
| 21:56.27 | hizuro | :) |
| 21:58.00 | hizuro | i hope my group is complete on friday... -.- |
| 22:09.37 | Kesava | I NEED AN ADDON |
| 22:09.52 | Kesava | which will store sets of macros. not in a useable fasion, just for talent switching |
| 22:10.08 | Kesava | so that i don't have to write them all trying to check which spec i'm in |
| 22:10.11 | Kesava | in an attempt to save macro slots |
| 22:10.34 | Kesava | easy right? |
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| 22:13.00 | hizuro | macrobank on wowinterface |
| 22:14.24 | hizuro | maybe ^^ |
| 22:17.58 | Stanzilla | Fisker: GPS |
| 22:28.14 | Fisker | :? |
| 22:28.20 | Stanzilla | play services |
| 22:32.25 | Stanzilla | qr´´´wtf |
| 22:32.31 | Stanzilla | 10 windows updates today |
| 22:32.32 | Stanzilla | for 8.1 |
| 22:34.10 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/2VPkVV4.png |
| 22:34.17 | Stanzilla | lots of small hotfixes |
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| 23:11.21 | Gnarfoz | Kesava: eh? something like TalentMacros? |
| 23:11.46 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: that almost reads as if they lost/lost control of their APK signing key |
| 23:12.01 | Kesava | Yees, ty |
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| 23:33.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I get the impression quasselcore does... well, questionable things. openssl s_client won't talk to it oO |
| 23:35.06 | Gnarfoz | 2015-05-21 01:21:08 Warning: Disconnecting: "Peer tried to send package larger than max package size!" << what |
| 23:37.12 | Gnarfoz | I doubt openssl is trying to send more than 64 MB :D |
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