IRC log for #wowace on 20160126

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00:44.22Primercrickets...
01:24.20znfHmmm
01:27.08znfSo, if I have eth0 and eth1
01:27.30znfand those are on different internet connections
01:27.45znf(so, their own gateways), how do I make them reply to ping on both IPs?
01:47.03Primersay what
01:47.38Primeryou ping one IP, it responds (presuming no blocking of ICMP)
01:47.42Primeryou ping the other IP, it responds (presuming no blocking of ICMP)
01:47.49Primersimple
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01:58.45znfPrimer, uhm, not if they have different gateways
01:58.52quiescenso.o
01:59.03znfas your OS will try to reply trough the default gateway
01:59.33Primermetric
02:00.10Primerand 2 default routes
02:03.32znfI've never understood metrics
02:03.45znfI mean, I understand the distance thingie
02:03.52znfbut how would that help me in this case?
02:05.49PrimerThey way I understand it is the metric would allow of each interface to respond to any traffic coming into it
02:06.01Primerregardless of the default
02:06.32Primerbut I confess I would not know exactly where to start, other than to tweak metrics and setting each interface as a default route
02:10.10quiescenshonestly i expect you'll need to do rule based routing
02:10.40quiescensand then route outbound packets based on source address
02:11.31quiescensone would normally wonder why you're trying to do this, but i assume its just znf making up new and creative ways to break things
02:11.56znfquiescens, that's my expectation, too
02:12.01znfquiescens, client has some dedicated servers
02:12.05znfhe wants to migrate to VMs
02:12.07znfwe just did that
02:12.10znfbut he also wants old IPs
02:12.12znfthey're in different blocks
02:12.20znf(and different vlans)
02:13.43znfon deployment, they ofc got an IP on eth0 from the VM block
02:13.58znfbecause that's how the system assigns it
02:14.24znfadding the other IPs to eth1-15 didn't seem to work out in their favor
02:15.32quiescensyou have 15 network interfaces?
02:19.21znfthat's how OpenNebula assigns them
02:22.56znfmeanwhile, I'm still impressed that cpanel finally implemented php-fpm
02:36.19znfhttps://bgpstream.com/event/17605
02:36.20znfInteresting
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09:34.05GnarfozI blame open nebula, too
09:34.18Gnarfozalways up to shenanigans that guy
09:34.22nebulacloses
09:36.45Phixionmorning nebula & Gnarfoz
09:37.15nebulaohayo
09:40.26Gnarfozo7
09:52.58Gnarfozfor real, mpass
09:56.50Phixion?
09:58.12Gnarfozthey want my ID and some recent invoice or something for "legitimization" purposes
09:58.25Gnarfozso I gave that to them
09:58.36Gnarfoznow they rejected it because "sorry, that invoice is an online document"
09:58.44Gnarfozchecks the calendar
09:58.49nevcairielhaha
09:59.06Phixionhad to google what mpass is
09:59.10nevcairieljust print it out, spread a bit of dirt on it, and try again
09:59.13Gnarfozis it 2016? and they want a paper invoice from someone who wants to do contactless payment
09:59.15Phixionits the german paypal competitior?
09:59.19Gnarfoznevcairiel: precisely what I'm going to do
09:59.54nevcairieli would probably use some old amazon invoice, they still come with their packages
10:00.01Phixionprobably enough to convert the pdf to img rather than text
10:00.09nevcairielunless they want something more substantial like a utility bill
10:00.51Gnarfozwhich I don't have since I pay my rent "warm"
10:01.10Phixiongay
10:01.12Phixion:(
10:01.56nevcairielGnarfoz: your rent includes water and electricity?
10:02.35Gnarfozyes
10:02.38Gnarfozeverything
10:02.40Gnarfozbecause he's a lazy bum
10:02.43Phixionrude Gnarfoz
10:02.50Gnarfozperhaps something illegal going on, I don't know (or care)
10:03.03Phixionprobably ripping you off :D
10:03.16Gnarfozthat's a given
10:03.19nevcairielsomeone wouldnt be happy if I would have such a deal with my electricity usage =p
10:03.34Gnarfozthat's why I don't complain too much ^^
10:03.52Gnarfozbut Baden-Baden is expensive as hell anyway
10:03.58Phixion:(
10:04.05Gnarfoz+ I'm too lazy to find a new place
10:04.09Gnarfoz(not that there's much on offer, either)
10:04.26Phixioneur650 for 38sqm
10:04.28Phixion:(
10:05.21GnarfozI knew Munich was insane, too, heh
10:05.37Gnarfoz560 € for 31 m²
10:05.47nevcairielyou live in tiny places
10:05.58Gnarfozyep :|
10:06.08Gnarfozjust big enough ^^
10:06.20Gnarfozabout twice the size of my room at my parents' house ;D
10:06.33nevcairieli  have 50 and I find it too small, but then again i'm here 24/7, so
10:07.33hasteGnarfoz: we were four people living in 67m² for 400 euro in Oslo :P
10:07.56hastenow we're four people living in 80m² for 525 euro
10:08.06Gnarfozthat's way more reasonable
10:08.21nevcairieli hope thats at least two couples, otherwise sleeping arrangements might be annoying =p
10:09.37hasteonly one couple, but it's still fine
10:09.43sbmeh, 1070 for 107m2
10:10.40Phixionnevcairiel: id move to a bigger place that'd require me to move suburban areas otherwise I couldnt afford
10:13.38nevcairielyeah prices in cities are terrible
10:13.51Phixionikr
10:13.53nevcairieli live on the outskirts as well, and I already got extremely lucky with this place
10:14.06nevcairielany bigger and I would have to move further out
10:15.18nevcairielthe big question however is what I'll do for work in the next years, will I continue to work from home, or go back to an office job some day, that might influence w here I want to live
10:17.01hasteI would never be able to work from home
10:17.16hasteI'd go to a office space just to get out every day :P
10:17.30Megalonyou must really like where you live
10:17.31Megalon:p
10:18.21hasteor I'd rather not bring more work home than I need to :)
10:43.33nevcairielhttp://img.pr0gramm.com/2016/01/25/3caf8c96bacd399d.jpg
10:43.59Gnarfozaccurate
11:02.57nebulaso tiny, i think my first apartment was 60 m²
11:03.31Phixion:o
11:03.32nebulacouldn't find much smaller than that outside of like renting a room
11:04.34Fiskerhey nevcairiel
11:04.39Fiskerwhat was the ETA on oculus again?
11:06.17nevcairiellate march or something is what I hear
11:06.36nevcairielmarch 28
11:16.44Gnarfoznebula: y'all buyin houses left and right, too, shit must be cheap over there
11:17.20nebulaoutside of the city, sure
11:17.20nevcairielno wonder, their houses are made mostly of cardboard
11:17.23Gnarfoz(probably also helped by HOW many of those houses are built... wood+drywall)
11:18.23Gnarfozweird, I thought one of my regular invoices was digitally signed
11:18.29GnarfozI must have hallucinated that
11:18.33Gnarfozthought it was O2
11:19.17nebulaand not many, it's probably close to all >.>
11:19.58nevcairielnearly all our houses are built from actual stones, its just such a huge difference
11:20.19nevcairielor well concrete
11:22.01Gnarfozor to reverse it: you seldom see a construction site that looks like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Wood-framed_house.jpg
11:22.20nevcairielyeah
11:22.45nevcairieli really do wonder  if our houses would fare much better against their usual tornados and whatnot
11:22.55GnarfozI don't really want to find out
11:22.59nevcairielhehe
11:22.59Gnarfoz:D
11:23.10Gnarfozprobably going to lose the roof, too
11:23.32nevcairielpossibly, but if the house still stands after thats a big improvement
11:23.33Gnarfozthat's usually made out of wood for anything that doesn't have a flat roof
11:23.51nebulai've never really heard of a house with poured concrete walls, seen a few in basements as just part of the foundation pour
11:24.03nebulamore common in nicer apartment complexes, though
11:24.08Gnarfoznah, floors/ceilings are reinforced concrete, walls are stone
11:24.19Gnarfozat least that's the  most common combination, I'd say
11:24.25nevcairielyeah
11:24.35Gnarfozusually 2 different layers of stone, too
11:24.37nevcairielpossibly just ytongs, maybe actual sandstone
11:24.38nebulayea, pretty unheard of here
11:24.40nevcairielor both
11:24.59GnarfozYTONG \o/
11:25.06Gnarfozis that like Tesa and Nutella, btw?
11:25.08Gnarfozprobably is
11:25.12nevcairielsure
11:25.16nevcairielgasbeton just sounds bad
11:25.44Gnarfozhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ytong doesn't even have an english page
11:25.52nevcairielits a german company
11:26.02nevcairielwonder what americans call that
11:26.33Gnarfozhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoclaved_aerated_concrete
11:26.34Gnarfozthis ^
11:26.40nevcairieli prefer ytong then
11:26.43Gnarfozdefinitely
11:26.43Gnarfoz:D
11:27.21nebulaoh yea, i've seen that stuff, usually encased in foam
11:27.36Gnarfozhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_masonry_unit also possible, but it's not the same thing
11:27.48Gnarfoz(they get filled up with concrete)
11:28.52Gnarfozit's sometimes really hard to find the correct English equivalent for stuff like this that has been around for decades or centuries
11:28.59Gnarfozbecause there's so many fine-grained terms
11:29.03nevcairielthose kind of stones are used here as well, yeah
11:33.20znfNice
11:33.26znfI have to pay ~500€ for heating
11:33.59znf2.4€ / m3
11:34.22nevcairiela month? o.o
11:34.25znfyes
11:34.30nevcairieljust for heating?
11:34.35znfYeah
11:34.39znffor 190 m3
11:35.18nevcairielyou measure your places in cubic meters?
11:35.29znfno, that's how much gas I used
11:35.35nevcairielah
11:36.11znfnormal price is 0.35eur/m3
11:36.23znfsomehow this residential complex manages to bill it for 2.4€
11:36.30nevcairieldo they deliver the gas in special gold plates buckets? =p
11:36.35nevcairielplated*
11:38.08nevcairielgas is charged in kWh here, not in m3, mmm
11:42.05znfyeah, the bill is usually in kWh, too
11:42.12znfbut the meter at your door is in m3
11:42.18znfwhich is retarded as fuck...
11:43.49FiskerAny way orders can see what batch they are in nevcairiel ?
11:43.55Megalon500 for heating
11:44.00Megalonyou living in a warehouse?
11:44.28Phixionhey Fisker ?
11:44.35Megalon¿que? Phixion
11:44.41Phixionhey Megalon
11:44.54Megaloni just failed 4 70% gem upgrades in d3, time to exit game
11:45.24nevcairielFisker: not that i am aware
11:46.33nevcairieli got my order mail at 17:16, so no clue if thats early or late
11:48.36Megalondid you mail order Fisker a bride?
11:49.20GnarfozMegalon: good job
11:50.35Gnarfozwhat are the odds! ^^
11:51.34znfMegalon, 70m2 apt
11:51.44sbGnarfoz: 70%! every single time
11:52.27sbznf: wtf? 500eur/month for heating a 70m2 apt?
11:53.16Megalon70% to succeed
11:53.27Megalonso i hit the 30% 4 times in a row :P
11:53.31Gnarfozsb is alive
11:53.34Gnarfozit's a mircale
11:53.41Gnarfoz(also that properly spelled thing)
11:53.49Megaloni think the game told me i should just stop for today
11:53.53sbGnarfoz: barely! i has 1000 works
11:53.57Megalonhey mircale sb
11:54.03Gnarfoz1000 works is many works
11:54.10Megaloni had a work once
11:54.12Megalonit was awful
11:54.20sband then fisker killed a guy, right?
11:54.23Gnarfozthere's such a thing as too many works
11:54.30Megalonthat's how the story is told
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12:21.17Fiskerhey Phixion
12:22.39znfsb, yes
12:26.31Megalonmaybe znf lives inside a sauna
12:32.31Phixion:(
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12:55.36znfat least it would be warm in a sauna, Megalon
12:57.33Megalonso you pay 500€ for non-functional heating?
12:57.46Megalondamn those romanian scams are getting worse and worse
12:57.55Megalonor better and better, depending on which side you are on
12:59.59Phixion:(
13:00.14Megalonwhy so sadxion
13:24.57quiescensgives Phixion a cookie
13:25.39Phixion:)
13:25.42Phixionalways sad Megalon
13:27.06Gnarfozoy vey
13:27.50Gnarfoz1&1 informing me that they're going to "make some adjustments" to ensure that their customers are going to continue enjoying a high-quality network
13:28.01Gnarfozthat sounds ominous
13:28.44znfie: where'r going to enforce caps
13:29.17PhixionGnarfoz: ??
13:29.21Phixionpastebin
13:29.22Phixionpls
13:29.39Phixionlike, peering?
13:29.43Phixionto aws
13:30.24GnarfozI dunno, that's Telekom's business in my case, it's not like 1&1 is a real ISP
13:30.27Gnarfoz:D
13:30.33Phixion:D
13:30.34Gnarfoz(well, they might be in some areas, but not here)
13:31.53GnarfozPhixion: http://paste.smb.wtf/view/da4a4270
13:32.02sbits still running, wow! :p
13:32.19sbnot using haste anymore? :(
13:32.45haste:(
13:32.57sb:D
13:33.16GnarfozI always just type "smb" and pick whatever Chrome is in the mood of putting at the top of the list
13:33.23sb:D
13:33.26GnarfozPhixion: http://paste.smb.wtf/view/bb833d06 I don't expect a useful answer
13:33.28sbwoah, your name is "Nerd"?
13:33.41sbthats awesome
13:34.31Gnarfozthat's how nerdy I am
13:35.20Megalonhis forename is Kack
13:36.04Gnarfozno, Super
13:36.22MegalonSuper Kack Nerd?
13:36.31Megalon( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
13:36.35GnarfozI'm not USian
13:36.42Gnarfozwe don't do that middle name bs
13:36.42Gnarfoz:D
13:37.10sbi have one
13:37.10Megalonlots of people here have 2 names
13:37.20Megalonsometimes i think me and my brother are the only ones without
13:37.21Megalon:C
13:37.34Gnarfozyou don't use them like the USians do, though
13:37.38Gnarfoz(I also have 3 first names)
13:39.11Megalonso Dörte Justin are the other 2
13:39.42Phixion:D
13:49.45nevcairielmany germans have a middle name (or more than one), but we generally tend to simply not use them for squat
13:51.04winkyour definition of middle name is.. different
13:51.10winkwell, depends who you explain it to
13:51.22winkI'd say the term 'middle name' is ambiguous
13:51.31znfromanians have a middle name, too
13:51.34winkI'd call the German ones just 'secondary first/given names'
13:51.36znfwe don't use them, either
13:51.44winkAmericans have proper middle names
13:51.55winkbut whatever, semantics
13:52.40znfmy middle/secondary is Marian
13:52.42znfbut I never use it
13:52.57znfI don't get tje point
13:53.41nebulathen there are hispanic names, which have 5 first names
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14:02.49znfyeah, religion fucks everything up
14:03.20winkmaybe in the greater sense
14:03.28winksome parents just want their kids to be able to choose
14:03.34winkI think that's the most sensical thing
14:03.41winkdon't like first name, use second one
14:04.32znfactually I was named "Marian" after a saint
14:05.04nevcairielmy parents just couldnt agree on one name, so both of them picked one and i ended up with both
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14:08.22znf(and most people I know with 2 names have a "saint" name)
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14:31.21Gnarfozwink: that's not how that works in Germany, though, parents determine the Rufname
14:32.11Gnarfozhmmm Windows Updates
14:32.15Gnarfozthere goes my afternoon
14:49.55znfthis crashes chrome http://crashsafari.com/
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15:03.54winkGnarfoz: rufname is only official. nothing a perosn has to accept. and I think there's a difference between using your given 2nd name or a real nickname
15:04.04winkthat's what I meant
15:04.29winklike I've heard of giving the kids <creative_weird_name> <boring_normal_name> as a fallback ;)
15:05.02GnarfozI can also call myself Karl-Hans
15:05.11Gnarfozif enough other people call me that, I can even apply for a name change
15:05.12Phixion\o/
15:08.09winksure, but think of it as an 80:20 solution
15:08.17winkyou get to choose between 2 instead of 1
15:08.25winkfor no cost or extra work :)
15:08.51winkI know a guy who changed how he introduced himself depending on social circle and/or time of hios life
15:08.57winkmade it a bit weird though
15:09.21winkmeeting him with a friend: "hi, peter" - his friend " who is peter?
15:09.40winkah. well, hell is other people ;)
15:13.17Phixionhttps://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/42p0be/python_for_network_engineersfree_course_starts/
15:13.30Phixionmaybe someone is interested
15:14.03winknice
15:14.41Phixionyou're nice wink
15:15.56winknope, I am not
15:16.01Phixion:(
15:16.08winkI'd love to get the examples of that course regarding networking
15:16.19winkbut not want to sift through a beginner's course notes
15:16.44Phixion:(
15:26.06Gnarfoz"Auch der Vorname "Frieden Mit Gott Allein Durch Jesus Christus" wurde nicht akzeptiert "
15:26.25Gnarfozbest first name
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15:28.16Gnarfoz"Nachdem eine Mutter den zwölfteiligen Vornamen "Chenekwahow Tecumseh Migiskau Kioma Ernesto Inti Prithibi Pathar Chajara Majim Henriko Alessandro" nicht durch die Instanzen deutscher Gerichtsbarkeit klagen konnte, billigt das Bundesverfassungsgericht jedem fünf Vornamen zu."
15:29.02Megalonmust be real nice growing up with her as a mother
15:29.26Gnarfoz"Emily-Extra" is a valid female first name
15:29.47Megalonit's also the name of a wurst
15:30.43Gnarfoz"Atomfried" is not allowed
15:30.55GnarfozI don't see how one is better than the other
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15:49.21Fiskermorning Repo
15:49.24Fiskeralso Ressy
15:49.49Ressyhi
15:56.34Gnarfozpfff 1&1 http://paste.smb.wtf/view/2aaf4ded ^^
15:56.44Gnarfoz--verbose
15:57.22Megalonwe did stuff
15:57.34Gnarfozbasically
15:57.51Megalonlike when an app has a new update "fixed things"
15:57.53Megalonthx obama
15:58.31Gnarfoz"- bugfixes and updates"
16:00.12Phixion:)
16:00.17Phixionminor bugfixes
16:01.47silentiumhaha, gotta ask some friends who work at 1&1 later if they know someone named Gustav Geek :)
16:01.48Megalonc minor?
16:01.50nevcairielsometimes stuff is so minor that listing it doesnt make much sense
16:02.04nevcairielalthough i wouldnt push out a new release if i only have stuff in that category
16:02.05silentium(no, they don't have to deal with customers directly)
16:12.15FiskerMy feet hurt nevcairiel
16:22.42Phixionmassage it
16:22.45Phixionor them
16:23.19FiskerYou do it
16:30.12Phixionok
16:39.08PhixionStanzilla: http://imgur.com/qxpFi4Q you?
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16:40.09FiskerWhat's that Phixion
16:40.41Phixionpopel = booger gesund = healthy
16:40.44Phixion:(
16:42.22Gnarfoznice
16:42.25Gnarfozwas that your search
16:42.40Phixionno
16:42.42Phixion:(
16:42.58Gnarfozyou wish it had been? ^^
16:43.49Phixionwow
16:46.29Reporecount: 03Resike * r1357 GUI_Detail.lua: - Tweaked the summary windows to fit the new window size.
16:46.29Repo- Added multistrike to the summary window.
16:46.29Repo- Some other various fixes and tweaks.
16:48.15Reporecount: 03resike 04v6.2.3g release * r1358 : Tagging as v6.2.3g release
16:59.06FiskerAll my wats Stanzilla
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18:49.33Reporarity: 03allara * r509 Core.lua:
18:49.33Repo- Rarity will now gather statistics data upon login more reliably; this should prevent scenarios where if you logged in, killed something Rarity should detect, never entered combat with anything else prior to that, and did all of that less than 3 minutes after logging in, statistics-based detection would fail (thanks Rothemong!)
18:50.48Stanzillahttps://twitter.com/scottbelsky/status/691800108971745281?s=09
19:04.11FiskerI wish isotopes would stop working for google Stanzilla
19:06.08StanzillaI dont think he does
19:06.12Stanzillamaybe as caretaker or so
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19:37.46nevcairielman the akkhans set dungeon was somewhat tricky
19:55.39StanzillaFisker: 6p is now 100 euro cheaper in .de
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23:36.59nevcairielso Stanzilla going to play the new tomb raider?
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