IRC log for #wowace on 20160128

00:00.29Gnarfozhm, 7z complains about additional data beyond the .cab file end
00:00.36GnarfozI guess it doesn't support the format properly :\
00:02.26znfcabs are funny
00:03.06nevcairielcab support has improved in "recent" 7zip versions
00:03.29nevcairielso if you're still on the "old" stable version, might be time to upgrade to the new release
00:03.53nevcairielafter several years, they finally released a new stable in december
00:04.25Gnarfozyeah, I noticed that when I nuked dad's PC and put him on win10
00:04.30Gnarfozbut I was on 15.07 beta already
00:04.34Gnarfoznow on 15.14... but
00:04.43GnarfozI just let Windows Explorer do it
00:04.44nevcairielthat probably should've had the cab improvements
00:04.59Gnarfozit's about 10 times slower, lol
00:05.23Gnarfozperhaps the additional data is checksums and it's actually checking them ;-)
01:09.37StanzillaI just got a broken rift
01:09.40Stanzillathe guardian does not spawn
01:10.25Stanzillanvm, found him just as I wrote that
01:10.31Stanzillahe was on lvl 3 while I already was on 5
01:13.56TorhalSounds broken to me, Stanzilla.
01:14.42StanzillaI probably just tunneled and did not notice or so
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01:29.39Funkeh`for a minor nvidia driver update it's odd that it has introduced a startup autorun entry that now creates a taskbar icon
01:35.14StanzillaFunkeh`: yeah it's yet another update managing component
01:35.23Stanzilladelete the "Update.Core" dir before you install
01:35.50Funkeh`Ill just leave it for now
01:36.14Funkeh`it's not geforce experience bullshit so it's ok, for now
01:44.38Megalonreplaces his Funkeh` experience with geforce experience
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08:17.24Phixionmorning
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09:34.30Gnarfozcomputerbase review looks like Tomb Raider looks pretty pretty
09:34.34Gnarfozdat hair
09:34.56Gnarfozthe comparison to dat non-special hair just shows how bad hair usually looks... *flop flop*
09:36.17Phixioncomputerbaselol
09:37.11Gnarfozpretty much overtook heise by now
09:37.13Gnarfoz:|
09:37.25Phixionwat
09:37.50Phixionwie meinst du das?
09:50.24Gnarfozwtf, where's my TeamViewer
09:50.32Gnarfozthis is going to be a boring day
09:52.40nevcairielGnarfoz: yeah hair is extremely complex to render completely
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13:24.45quiescensgives blu a cookie
13:26.14bluspacecowno love for me in that other channel lol
13:26.39quiescenso.o
13:42.50GnarfozGermans: please zwick me, I must be dreaming: http://www.computerbase.de/2016-01/breitbandausbau-ein-glasfaserkabel-fuer-jeden-graben/
13:46.58Phixionzwicks Gnarfoz
13:51.17bluspacecow<—— doesnt know what zwicking is but if its hot , sexy and involves being naked then I will zwick you all night long baby
13:52.26Phixionwow
13:56.38Gnarfozit might do all of those things
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14:29.20Megalon*foz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVoffqksUhc
14:42.23silentiumbluspacecow: zwicken = to pinch
14:42.30bluspacecowkinky
15:05.21nevcairielGnarfoz: like thats going to pass
15:10.53GnarfozMegalon: maximum playback
15:13.44quiescensmoo
15:18.16nevcairieltomb raider preload is weird, initially it downloaded like 17gb or so, and over the last couple days it slowly added another 800mb or so, piece by piece :p
15:53.47Stanzillaonly downloaded once for me
15:54.24quiescensas far as you know!
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16:41.17Fiskerhey Stanzilla
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16:43.57Stanzillahey Fisker
16:44.48Fiskerhow are you?
16:45.53Phixionhey Megalon how are you
16:46.11Fiskerhey Phixion
16:46.18Phixionhey Fisker
16:46.24Phixionhow are aou?
16:46.27Phixion:(
16:47.46Fiskerhey Phixion
16:47.49FiskerI'm ok
16:47.50Fiskerhow are you?
16:48.49PhixionI'm ok Fisker
16:48.53Phixionbusy days
16:51.47quiescensgo sleep
16:57.42Phixionwhy?
16:58.11Phixiondont use the words 'sleep' 'is' or 'good'
16:59.05quiescens):
16:59.43Phixion:)
17:02.41nevcairielShuteye be nice?
17:07.13Repobad-boy: 03funkydude * r1374  (2 files in 1 directory): anti-spam update
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18:03.24Gnarfozthis is why I don't watch scene or p2p-pseudo-scene releases: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/159164
18:04.15Megalonok
18:28.13Phixionhttp://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/oracle-says-it-is-killing-the-java-plugin-795547 its happening Fisker
18:28.31Fiskernice
18:28.37Phixionyep
18:29.29Phixionor maybe not
18:37.41Gnarfoznot for a good while, but at least... there are plans
18:38.05Gnarfozcan anyone tell me what purpose the Intel Management Engine has? or it's HECI driver?
18:38.08Gnarfozsuch interrupts
18:38.12Gnarfozmany DPC
18:38.12Gnarfozwow
18:38.58Phixionask computerbase forum, has many professionals
18:39.00Phixion( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
18:41.32Gnarfozat least they troll all week, not just on Fridays
18:41.49Megalonyou mean not just on ... friday, friday, friday
18:50.06StanzillaI actually like computerbase
18:50.16Stanzillanot their forums though
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19:08.21vircuserHello, I was wondering if someone could give me a helping hand with Bartender4.  I was wondering if there was a way to enlarge the hotkey text inside the buttons.
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19:13.29harlwuff wuff
19:24.43PhixionGnarfoz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOhWZOn_IWY
19:37.01GnarfozI'd say the stuttering has gotten worse, not better
19:37.20Phixion:(
19:37.35Megalonhm
19:47.09Megalonperhaps you are zwicking it too much, *foz
20:23.13winkzwickel > zwicken
20:23.25Megalonprost
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20:47.08GnarfozI've eliminated everything but usbport.sys, and I doubt I can get rid of that, considering it only rises quickly when I'm moving the mouse
20:47.44Gnarfozndis.sys still reigns supreme in terms of DPCs, though
20:48.03Gnarfoznot surprising, considering nothing else uses line-based interrupts anymore
20:48.03Gnarfoz:D
20:48.37winkwow, there was something wow-addon related 2h ago
20:48.45Phixion:)
20:48.45winkfirst time this year? :P
20:53.58Megalon[:]
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21:39.55Gnarfoznevcairiel: btw, odd: I went through nearly all devices in device manager that doesn't have obvious dedicated drivers like sound, ethernet, gpu and clicked "update drivers", and lo and behold, there were updates available?
21:40.05Gnarfozsuper weird, that never came to mind before
21:41.16Gnarfozparticularly stuff like "PCI Express Root Port 7", "LPC Interface Controller", "PCI to PCI bridge", "HPET", "PIC", "2nd generation Intel Core Processor family PCI express controller" and such
21:41.20Gnarfozso, system devices, mostly
21:41.52Gnarfozactual gain apparently neglible, at least as far as my problem is concerne
21:41.54Gnarfoz+d
21:42.19Gnarfozbut it *did* result in the remaining devices switching over to MSI/MSI-X interrupts
21:42.26Gnarfozexcept the USB2 controllers and SMBus
21:42.42Gnarfoz(although SMBus controller doesn't even have a driver loaded, so probably 0 impact)
21:43.27Gnarfoz(and I disabled 1394 controller and that weird PCI IDE controller... my mainboard doesn't even have IDE ports)
21:45.43Gnarfoznearly out of ideas now... I'll try a couple more things: switching back to Intel NIC with newer drivers (august 2015?), maybe turning some components that weren't on MSI/X interrupts before back to regular IRQs
21:45.57Gnarfozand lastly, fiddling with the myriad of offloading options in the NIC driver
21:46.07Gnarfozperhaps the CPU is better at it. :P
21:50.10GnarfozI do wonder if I could somehow step further down into this... probably debuggerland
21:50.20Gnarfozor using xperf directly instead of LatencyMon
21:50.25Gnarfozndis.sys :|
21:51.31Gnarfozalso, LatencyMon doesn't like my CPU even after turning off SpeedStep, Turbo Boost and setting it to 100% in Windows
21:55.26nevcairielDebugging kernel land is no fun
21:59.57nevcairielGnarfoz:  for Intel NICs the only pertinent info I can find is saying to use 19.1 drivers, those seem to be best
22:00.33Gnarfozbut aren't those from before win10?
22:00.39nevcairielProbably
22:00.43Gnarfozand also isn't it supposed to have started with 18.5?
22:00.45nevcairiel2014 I think
22:00.49Gnarfozconflicting info is also no fun :D
22:01.43nevcairielBut the realtek nic didn't help?
22:01.49Gnarfoznope
22:02.04GnarfozI did update to a driver from realtek's site before even trying, though, I think
22:02.16Gnarfozso I might roll back to what Windows had
22:02.31Gnarfozor maybe it was Asus's win8 driver, I don't even remember
22:02.32nevcairielI always grab drivers from the apropriate sites
22:02.42Gnarfozyeah, that's what you're supposed to do :|
22:02.49Gnarfozbut Asus doesn't have win10 drivers for any of this
22:02.54Gnarfozobsolete!
22:03.12Gnarfoz(not that this problem is new, had it under 8 and 7, too)
22:03.19Gnarfozjust never knew what in particular to look for
22:05.00Gnarfozhm. how do you get the imgur filmstrip album type back, again?
22:05.29nevcairielI had it on one old system but oddly enough only when I was on lan parties
22:05.58nevcairielWhich isn't exactly the best environment to go debug your system
22:06.04Gnarfozhehe
22:06.13Gnarfozbut maybe you were excercising your NIC more, there
22:06.56nevcairielI guess
22:07.00nevcairielThis one is fine though
22:07.09Gnarfozwhich one do you have?
22:07.15nevcairielShort of the maldesigned USB porta
22:07.18nevcairielPorts
22:07.27Gnarfozalso, I might go through a bin at work and see if I can't find a spare NIC
22:08.14nevcairiel<PROTECTED>
22:08.29Gnarfozhttp://imgur.com/a/rGesD/layout/horizontal#0 yay.
22:08.35nevcairielIt has a somewhat broken USB design which makes some ports sometimes break my mouse
22:08.46nevcairielBut I figured out which don't
22:08.49nevcairielSo yay
22:08.52GnarfozI guess I could try moving my USB periphery to the USB3 ports
22:09.46Gnarfozbut that only decreases ISR calls (or rather, would eliminate them, since USB2 is the only thing left), not ndis.sys DPCs :D
22:10.00nevcairielThat was the worst thing to debug, you don't think about our mainboards USB when your mouse stops moving
22:10.05Gnarfozand I think they don't work properly while in the UEFI
22:10.06nevcairielYou think your mouse is flawed
22:10.27Gnarfozhehe, yeah, definitely a case of "this doesn't break, does it"
22:10.55nevcairielMonths and two mice later, i finally found hints on the interwebs
22:11.16Gnarfozthat's a 2.5 hour capture from while we were doing CMs just now, btw; with qBitorrent merrily doing its thing in the background and Chrome playing audio
22:11.31Gnarfozso the high USB stuff is basically from me moving the mouse.
22:11.32Gnarfoz:O
22:12.01Gnarfoz(not surprising. you don't get "1000 Hz polling rate", or whatever number Func uses, without also doing 1000 interrupts/s
22:12.23nevcairielDo you notice glitching in game as well?
22:12.30Gnarfozkind of.
22:12.33Gnarfozit's really weird.
22:12.38Megaloni'd be pissed if someone would interrupt me 1000 times per second
22:12.39Gnarfozit's so short I'm not even sure if there's something or not
22:12.48GnarfozI do think so, though
22:13.00Gnarfozit's most obvious when I'm turning the camera at the moment
22:13.22Gnarfoz(same in D3, but that has its entire own brand of performance problems that don't have anything to do with my system :P)
22:14.04nevcairielIME D3 got better in 2.4
22:15.53Megalonif i have a twitch stream open on my second monitor
22:16.03Megalonand open the blacksmith in d3 my framrates goes to 1
22:16.17znfI just noticed that Google doesn't have an EV certificate
22:16.23znfthinks EV certificates are a waste of money
22:20.30Megalonhow's your hpv certificate coming along znf
22:20.40znfI don't have HPV
22:21.25Megalongot a certificate for that?
22:22.25znfyes, it's on the tip of my penis
22:22.26znfwanna see?
22:22.40Megalonwait, let me grab the microscope
22:24.43Gnarfozthat's because a) EV is not technically better than others and b) Google is a CA anyway! :P
22:25.17znfGnarfoz, I know
22:25.23znfI don't really see the market/appeal for EV
22:25.29znf"hey, we got our name in the address bar"
22:25.33znfuser is like, "who the fuck cares?"
22:26.27Gnarfozthey're basically a second attempt at fulfilling the "hey, the CA made sure that the website is actually run by who you'd think it's run by" promise
22:26.40Gnarfozwhile also earning more money.
22:28.00nevcairielEV is a joke
22:28.57nevcairiel$work investigated using EV for code signing because everytime you need to renew your "ordinary" code signing cert, you get these pesky warnings from windows about "not commonly downloaded files" for a few days, which is terrible for business
22:29.03nevcairielEV supposedly gets rid of that
22:29.10nevcairielhowever, EV certs are fucking annoying
22:29.50nevcairielthere is like only 2 places that sell EV code signing, and they make a drama out of that, not only that certifying is annoying, they send you a fucking hardware dongel to access the certificate, so screw automated signing in the release process
22:30.02znfew
22:30.11winkWhy's there no ADM cert if there's EVe?
22:30.28Gnarfozhttp://wink.badumtss
22:30.34wink\o/
22:30.45nevcairielthat totally should be a tld
22:31.06znfI was expecting that to be a valid tld :(
22:31.21winkthere's always .horse
22:31.23znfanswering tickets at 1am!
22:31.24znfyay?
22:31.31znfwell, 00:31
22:31.32znfw/e
22:31.32winkyour timezone sucks
22:31.34wink:P
22:31.51Gnarfozit's so late there!
22:31.54znfso, cutomer send me this: http://i.imgur.com/MZ2pcU5.png
22:31.55Gnarfozalways.
22:31.59znfsaying that they have latency issues
22:32.08znfthe only "huge" jump is between US and DE
22:32.13znfHow the fuck am I supposed to be fixing that?
22:32.21winkhehe
22:32.23nevcairielstraightne out the cables
22:40.47Megalonperhaps the fibers need a new coating
22:41.00Megalonso grab your trusty diving equipment and gogogo
22:41.02Gnarfozdip them in holy water
22:42.25Megalondon't think znf can touch that without getting severe burns
22:50.04znfcPanel is retarded
22:50.28Repoascendancetimer: 03oscarucb 041.3.3 * r38 : Tagging as 1.3.3
22:59.30znfhttps://letsencrypt-for-cpanel.com/
22:59.31znfNice
23:06.46znf# pwd
23:06.46znf/var/www/flexicar.ro/C:\xampp2\tmp
23:06.50znfyeah, nice going, guys
23:08.10Gnarfozgood job
23:08.10Gnarfoz:D
23:10.30znfI miss overwatch, Gnarfoz :(
23:12.25Gnarfozit's coming back with a lot of awesome changes :>
23:12.38Gnarfozstill going to be a while, tho
23:13.12znfyes, but I'll have no beta anymore :-(
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23:33.23nevcairielrelease is only a few months out
23:42.19Gnarfozsadface, plugging everything into the displays and plugging those into the two usb3 ports, so nothing is on usb2, just moves the ISRs and DPCs to "wdf01000.sys"
23:42.44nevcairielhehe
23:43.01Gnarfozhm, I guess the on-board bluetooth is on usb2, too, internally
23:43.39Gnarfozand I shall try and remember to take my FiiO home with me tomorrow
23:43.51Gnarfozso I can try what basically amounts to a USB soundcard
23:44.06Gnarfozat the end of this road is a new mainboard
23:44.07Gnarfoz:p
23:44.21Gnarfozor a KillerNIC
23:44.22Gnarfozlolol
23:44.34Megalonwhat are you even doing all this time
23:44.37Megalonor trying to fix :D
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23:45.19Gnarfozcheck yesterday ~22:16
23:45.57Gnarfozsound issues caused by (apparently) network card. at least that's the working theory. ;)
23:45.58Megalonah ok

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