| 00:18.07 | Torhal | hunts Semlar. |
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| 02:55.35 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
| 02:55.40 | Gnarfoz | Chrome just ate all my open tabs |
| 02:55.56 | Gnarfoz | it's not supposed to do that! :D |
| 02:56.04 | Xuerian | ctrl-shift-t? |
| 02:56.59 | Gnarfoz | empty list |
| 02:57.11 | Xuerian | rip |
| 02:57.16 | Gnarfoz | it crashed, then crashed again when I clicked "restore" |
| 02:58.23 | quiescens | nom |
| 02:58.31 | quiescens | /pat Gnarfoz |
| 03:01.16 | Gnarfoz | maybe I should just switch to this http://www.doudoulinux.org/web/english/index.html |
| 03:01.45 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:02.40 | Brybry | even if it crashes again when you click restore it should still have the session data/tabs in your profile |
| 03:05.20 | Gnarfoz | tell that to Chrome |
| 03:05.30 | Brybry | though if you kept closing and opening chrome after the restore failure and don't normally have it keep tabs between sessions then it might have overwritten it |
| 03:05.56 | Gnarfoz | why would I have done that |
| 03:06.04 | Gnarfoz | it crashed on its own, doing what you just described |
| 03:06.35 | Gnarfoz | (replacing the list with "hey, new tab" :D) |
| 03:06.50 | Gnarfoz | and I do have it keep tabs between sessions, I'm a tab hoarder |
| 03:07.00 | Gnarfoz | glares at nevcairiel |
| 03:07.11 | quiescens | what did nev do o.o |
| 03:07.17 | Brybry | did you manually check your "Current Tabs" "Last Tabs" "Current Session" etc files? |
| 03:07.44 | Gnarfoz | no, since when are those human-readable |
| 03:08.02 | Brybry | since when did strings not work on binary files |
| 03:08.16 | Brybry | I mean, that'd be a way to verify if the tabs are really lost |
| 03:08.36 | Gnarfoz | more importantly, why is my Chrome profile not in %appdata% |
| 03:08.47 | Gnarfoz | Google doing whatever they want is just fucking annoying |
| 03:09.24 | Gnarfoz | what are those files actually named, Brybry |
| 03:09.34 | Brybry | my chrome profile is in appdata (but appdata/local not appdata/roaming) |
| 03:09.41 | Gnarfoz | %appdata% is \roaming |
| 03:09.59 | Brybry | for me: AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Last Session |
| 03:10.06 | Gnarfoz | for a good reason, because \local doesn't get synced! |
| 03:10.17 | Gnarfoz | so putting user profile data in \local is just asinine |
| 03:10.20 | Gnarfoz | but... that's beside the point |
| 03:10.44 | Gnarfoz | Last Session is a mere 58 KB, so... I don't have big hopes. :P |
| 03:10.47 | Brybry | I get angrier at chrome devs when they break stuff that works |
| 03:11.08 | quiescens | isn't the session just a list of urls and window positions |
| 03:11.22 | Gnarfoz | well, they're intending to disable NPN in Chrome in May, when 90% of popular Linux distributions don't even use OpenSSL 1.0.2 (which would be necessary to support the replacement, ALPN) |
| 03:11.25 | Brybry | well, there are 4 files |
| 03:11.31 | Brybry | current session/current tabs/last session/last tabs |
| 03:11.38 | Brybry | I don't know specifically which one holds what you want |
| 03:11.57 | Gnarfoz | last tabs contains chrome://newtab and TamperMonkey's changelog |
| 03:12.08 | Gnarfoz | which is exactly what I got after the first crash |
| 03:12.10 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 03:12.58 | Gnarfoz | more like /o\ |
| 03:13.12 | Gnarfoz | last session contains the same + lots more binary garbage \0 bytes |
| 03:13.34 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 03:13.34 | Gnarfoz | but |
| 03:13.41 | Gnarfoz | cloud backup! |
| 03:14.27 | Gnarfoz | I should have earlier versions of those files around |
| 03:14.32 | Brybry | the real question is why these file names have spaces in them |
| 03:14.44 | Gnarfoz | because... they can? |
| 03:18.37 | Brybry | I remember when chrome devs broke userscripts as addons but let us keeping running them if we moved to the dev channel but then they still removed it from dev channel anyway and dev channel is a mess of despair and brokenness for weeks on end |
| 03:23.33 | Gnarfoz | for real backblaze |
| 03:23.44 | Gnarfoz | why on earth would these files not be backed up |
| 03:24.20 | quiescens | ): |
| 03:24.25 | quiescens | /pat Gnarfoz |
| 03:24.28 | Gnarfoz | (probably because Chrome runs on system startup and has them open all the time... but that shouldn't prevent them from being read? I can do it right now?!) |
| 03:25.53 | quiescens | i wonder if it actually does keep them open the whole time |
| 03:27.20 | Gnarfoz | I bet they mark them as temporary or some shit, so it skips over them |
| 03:29.51 | quiescens | more likely it has a policy of not trying to backup a file that has a modified time in the very recent past as a rudimentary attempt not to back up a file that is in the middle of being written |
| 03:30.10 | quiescens | mebeh |
| 03:30.17 | quiescens | depending on how often the file actually gets written to |
| 03:30.22 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 03:33.27 | Gnarfoz | hopefully every time I open/close a tab |
| 03:33.57 | Gnarfoz | for some reason I made a copy of the "user data" folder in August 2015 |
| 03:34.02 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure I want to go back that far :P |
| 03:36.25 | Gnarfoz | https://www.google.com/settings/chrome/sync says it knows about 238 tabs |
| 03:36.51 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 03:40.22 | Gnarfoz | but there's no way to get them |
| 03:40.34 | quiescens | ): |
| 04:45.10 | Torhal | pickles quiescens in Gnarfoz's food offal. |
| 04:45.18 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 05:16.02 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 08:56.14 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: maybe you shouldnt be up at 4:30, then you wouldnt acceidentally lose all your tabs! |
| 08:56.14 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 09:44.18 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure how that is related :| |
| 09:44.45 | Gnarfoz | it was some video that crashed it, not sure what it was |
| 09:44.52 | Semlar | porn |
| 09:45.01 | Gnarfoz | unlikely, it's heavily tested in that area |
| 09:45.08 | Stanzilla | GOOD MOURNING |
| 09:45.24 | Gnarfoz | but I recovered most (I think) tabs from the regular history, since, thankfully, they show up en bloc every time I restart Chrome |
| 09:45.44 | Gnarfoz | so I just had to find the latest point where I did that and they're all there, clumped up in the same minute |
| 09:46.27 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I use https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/session-buddy/edacconmaakjimmfgnblocblbcdcpbko?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog |
| 09:47.24 | Gnarfoz | in other news Quasselweb now has formatting things! lala woohoo 4,2awesome |
| 09:48.24 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla:that looks great for additional protection, ty |
| 09:48.30 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla:asd |
| 09:48.35 | Gnarfoz | great. |
| 09:48.48 | Stanzilla | space missing in the tab c omplete settings? :D |
| 09:48.51 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:48.56 | Gnarfoz | there are no settings, but yeah, it's gone |
| 09:49.13 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: interesting! |
| 09:49.27 | Gnarfoz | that's cursive |
| 09:49.30 | Gnarfoz | or rather, italics |
| 09:51.14 | Stanzilla | I was recently force to read a discussion about italics on irc |
| 09:51.28 | Stanzilla | and many clients dont support it |
| 09:52.26 | nevcairiel | which is weird since its really just similar to bold or color |
| 09:52.49 | Semlar | marks up nevcairiel |
| 09:52.58 | nevcairiel | go to sleep |
| 09:53.10 | Semlar | pfft it's only.. 5am |
| 09:54.11 | nevcairiel | https://gfycat.com/YoungFancyGartersnake |
| 09:54.39 | Stanzilla | lifehacks |
| 09:55.10 | Semlar | reported |
| 09:56.50 | Gnarfoz | Semlar:Â https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver/commit/e0f63da08893b1fb91041659daff0607d1484bac#diff-9deb8e8bfc14ee67a0aebdb96a887b59R767 |
| 10:08.17 | Torhal | tags Semlar so quiescens's gang will become incensed. |
| 10:09.01 | Gnarfoz | channels quiescens |
| 10:09.05 | Gnarfoz | go to sleep o.o |
| 10:09.26 | Torhal | Wow, Gnarfoz. That was pretty bad. You didn't even die. |
| 10:13.02 | nevcairiel | meh they turned the water off again, cant they be done working on the water line already |
| 10:29.00 | Gnarfoz | https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver/issues/118 I like this issue more than the other one |
| 10:31.44 | Torhal | They're simply trying to save your pixels, Gnarfoz. |
| 10:31.46 | Torhal | So whiny. |
| 10:31.58 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: you fixed it! |
| 10:32.02 | Torhal | :O |
| 10:32.08 | Gnarfoz | well, at least it was normal-sized just now |
| 10:32.15 | Gnarfoz | highlight me again, I dare you! |
| 10:32.25 | nevcairiel | no way Gnarfoz |
| 10:32.32 | Torhal | I blame you, Gnarfoz, for the imminent Heat Death of quiescens. |
| 10:36.23 | Kalroth | those bastards, they killed quiescens |
| 10:38.41 | Gnarfoz | once more, :O |
| 10:44.07 | Gnarfoz | :(Â |
| 10:54.47 | Kalroth | aww, poor Gnarfoz |
| 10:55.18 | Kalroth | does the client handle hacky highlighting like Gnarfoz? |
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| 10:56.50 | nevcairiel | what did you do, put some empty text format in the name? |
| 10:58.43 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 10:59.13 | Gnarfoz | yep,he did |
| 10:59.16 | Gnarfoz | there's a bold tag there |
| 10:59.18 | Gnarfoz | and no it doesn't |
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| 11:24.30 | quiescens | stop breaking everything gnarfoz |
| 11:27.43 | Gnarfoz | I WILL NOT |
| 11:38.31 | nevcairiel | ah they turned the water back on |
| 11:38.33 | nevcairiel | i can finally shower |
| 11:39.24 | Kalroth | less smelly, hooray |
| 11:41.30 | Gnarfoz | doubt he cares about that part of being clean, he's a hermit! :D |
| 11:41.38 | Megalon | unless nev lives in flint, mi |
| 11:42.50 | Gnarfoz | you're not up to date, that is far more widespread than just Flint (and worse in other places, too) |
| 11:43.09 | Megalon | i know, but it's only funny when i say flint |
| 11:43.16 | Gnarfoz | (add it to the list of problems with US infrastructure) |
| 11:54.39 | Xuerian | Then there's the whole Aliso Canyon thing in cali |
| 11:54.44 | Xuerian | Scary shit all around |
| 12:36.53 | znf | another day |
| 12:37.04 | znf | still no overwatch beta :( |
| 12:38.15 | nevcairiel | there are no invites on sunday nights |
| 12:38.35 | nevcairiel | i do hope the next legion wave hits soon though |
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| 13:08.17 | Gnarfoz | huh, he fixed it by replacing space with nbsp |
| 13:08.31 | Gnarfoz | I think he's trimming the text somewhere down the line and that removes the space |
| 13:10.06 | nevcairiel | does it actually send a unicode nbsp now instead of a normal space? |
| 13:10.23 | nevcairiel | that would be odd |
| 13:11.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you can check in this very message :> |
| 13:11.46 | nevcairiel | the question is, how |
| 13:11.47 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:12.32 | nevcairiel | nope its a 0x20 |
| 13:12.35 | Gnarfoz | doesn't look like an nbsp from my end, but maybe that gets mangled to 0x20 somewhere down the line |
| 13:12.54 | nevcairiel | unless copy-pasting it from quassel into notepad mangled it |
| 13:12.58 | nevcairiel | but that would be weird |
| 13:14.37 | Gnarfoz | it's C2 A0 in the source js file, tho |
| 13:14.42 | Gnarfoz | which is nbsp |
| 13:16.30 | znf | why the fuck would you send nbsp? |
| 13:16.32 | znf | what's this? 1995? |
| 13:16.48 | nevcairiel | its unicode, that wouldnt have worked in 95 |
| 13:37.21 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:38.03 | znf | unicodes quiescens |
| 13:38.49 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 15:01.51 | Stanzilla | http://www.overpwn.com/blue-tracker/topic/5804-dx12-support |
| 15:01.54 | Stanzilla | that actually surprises me |
| 15:06.19 | nevcairiel | probably not worth it |
| 15:06.33 | nevcairiel | runs fint as it is, doesnt it |
| 15:06.36 | nevcairiel | fine* |
| 15:06.46 | Gnarfoz | Xbone has D3D 12 hardware? |
| 15:06.55 | nevcairiel | no, just API support |
| 15:07.08 | Gnarfoz | even that surprises me, considering how old it is, but ok |
| 15:07.16 | nevcairiel | although some odd DX12 features are probably supported somehow |
| 15:07.20 | nevcairiel | but no full profiles |
| 15:08.01 | Stanzilla | hahaha http://i.imgur.com/3VnZLcU.png |
| 15:08.04 | Stanzilla | not bad |
| 15:09.12 | znf | I cba to compile that in my brain |
| 15:09.14 | znf | what does it do? |
| 15:09.39 | Stanzilla | make you part of a bot net |
| 15:09.58 | nevcairiel | relies on RunScript though, which should be blocked already |
| 15:10.05 | znf | y u no block runscript? |
| 15:10.09 | Stanzilla | it is |
| 15:10.12 | znf | bad author |
| 15:10.14 | znf | go to your room |
| 15:10.22 | Stanzilla | people just never noticed the aura because it also hides it in the list |
| 15:10.38 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:10.44 | nevcairiel | so thats from the guy Semlar linked? |
| 15:11.00 | Stanzilla | no, dunno what he linked, it's from a ticket |
| 15:11.17 | nevcairiel | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20742424396 |
| 15:12.30 | nevcairiel | spreading yourself through WA is not something it can realistically block though |
| 15:12.36 | nevcairiel | it just cant do evil things then |
| 15:12.49 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 15:13.01 | znf | tells Stanzilla about something |
| 15:13.05 | znf | print to chat |
| 15:13.10 | znf | "the aura is XYZ, click here to delete" |
| 15:13.53 | Stanzilla | there are more issues here |
| 15:13.58 | Stanzilla | first is that "" is allowed as name |
| 15:14.52 | Stanzilla | and yeah the print should probably tell you which one it is |
| 15:15.12 | znf | then don't allow "" as a name |
| 15:15.12 | znf | geez |
| 15:15.16 | znf | man, I have to teach you everything |
| 15:19.20 | Stanzilla | how about not being useless? :D |
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| 15:34.47 | nevcairiel | speaking of being useless, where the hell is that damn bot anyway |
| 15:35.19 | nevcairiel | repo died permanently now? |
| 15:35.25 | Megalon | znf is right here |
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| 15:41.17 | Stanzilla | torhal said something about server needs to be fixed |
| 15:41.25 | nevcairiel | yeah, like 2 weeks ago |
| 15:41.41 | Stanzilla | Curse IT ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 15:44.43 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 15:44.55 | quiescens | poor repo |
| 15:50.02 | Gnarfoz | I'm more amazed that it constantly keeps breaking, rather than be bummed about their choice to spend their time on other things |
| 15:50.43 | Stanzilla | I think the bot is a private project of Torhal |
| 15:50.45 | Stanzilla | so they dont care |
| 15:51.02 | Gnarfoz | :o |
| 15:51.08 | quiescens | what about repo's feelings ): |
| 15:51.21 | Gnarfoz | that could only possibly be true since the rewrite, but hm |
| 15:51.33 | Ressy | Its on torhal's system. |
| 15:51.44 | Gnarfoz | meaning what |
| 15:52.18 | Ressy | meaning until he can get his system hooked up to the right network, it's not coming back. :P |
| 15:52.26 | Gnarfoz | he's working offline? |
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| 15:53.13 | Gnarfoz | if he's running an IRC bot on his workstation, I'll blame cats |
| 15:53.23 | quiescens | catpower |
| 15:53.32 | Torhal | It's been running on my workstation for three years now. |
| 15:53.57 | Torhal | They had me bring it home, and now the bot gets 403s attempting to access the web API |
| 15:53.58 | Stanzilla | we only said your name twice |
| 15:54.00 | Stanzilla | not 3 times |
| 15:54.05 | Stanzilla | you came early, as always |
| 15:54.16 | Torhal | Other issues as well, so I need to take the machine BACK to the Huntsville office tomorrow and have them look at it |
| 15:54.41 | Torhal | Stanzilla confirmed as fucking perv. |
| 15:54.51 | Stanzilla | : ( |
| 15:55.13 | Stanzilla | it's not what I said, it's what you *think* I said! |
| 15:55.48 | Gnarfoz | copy it to a VM, attach VM to whatever network and wash your hands of it? ^^ |
| 15:56.18 | Gnarfoz | (*off?) |
| 15:57.38 | Torhal | Nah, I need to take the machine in. I can't connect to the .dev sites to test code either, |
| 15:57.40 | Torhal | So, yeah. |
| 15:58.27 | Gnarfoz | VPN? :o |
| 15:58.41 | Gnarfoz | but you can do whatever it is you're supposed to do on that night shift of yours? |
| 16:00.21 | Torhal | Yes. The problem is, my machine is on the office domain. Nobody mentioned that it should be removed from the domain before taking it home. |
| 16:00.57 | Torhal | So now I have to take the damn thing back, and I swear it weighs half what I do. |
| 16:01.11 | Torhal | No idea what the fuck they used to make those particular Alienware models, but ugh. |
| 16:01.51 | Gnarfoz | mfw Alienware office PCs |
| 16:02.12 | Torhal | Hahaha |
| 16:02.38 | Torhal | I assume the thinking was along the lines of "They can code and play games on these." |
| 16:02.54 | Gnarfoz | ok, that sounds kind of reasonable, if that is actually a thing that happens |
| 16:03.20 | Torhal | Yeah |
| 16:04.50 | Stanzilla | Torhal should revolt and get a team back on cf/wowace coding |
| 16:05.29 | Torhal | o.O |
| 16:06.24 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:06.36 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 16:07.03 | nevcairiel | I agree, its really stupid what cf/wowace dev has died again, should yell at Kaelten more |
| 16:07.25 | Stanzilla | don't think he cares |
| 16:07.59 | nevcairiel | someone probably does |
| 16:08.36 | Stanzilla | what makes you think that? |
| 16:09.00 | nevcairiel | if you spend months on some project and then abandon it close to completion, that should make someone think hard how stupid that is |
| 16:09.30 | Stanzilla | Curse IT ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 16:09.46 | Stanzilla | or more like Curse management |
| 16:10.04 | Stanzilla | they are all out on Curse voice atm, not giving a shit about anythign else |
| 16:10.41 | nevcairiel | wouldnt most work be in server infra and client development, not web dev |
| 16:10.45 | Stanzilla | cf/wowace probably does not even make them money |
| 16:10.54 | nevcairiel | i would think thats different people |
| 16:11.34 | Stanzilla | I'd bet my left nut that they are workin on a web version with the new design |
| 16:13.14 | nevcairiel | was to be expected though, as if curse has deliverd on any promises in the last 5 years or so |
| 16:13.53 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 16:14.04 | nevcairiel | having something new in the works is a good excuse to entirely abandon the old stuff, and then never finish the new stuff.... much work saved! |
| 16:14.05 | Stanzilla | like I said, there is no money here |
| 16:14.07 | Stanzilla | so why would they |
| 16:14.12 | pompy | Adobe: Company Issues Bug Fix After Creative Cloud Update Accidentally Deletes Users' FilesThe Mac update was pulled shortly after its release on Thursday after users discovered it was deleting files. Adobe releases a fixed version of the update on Sunday. |
| 16:14.14 | pompy | derp |
| 16:14.30 | Stanzilla | I see pompy is still on last weeks page of the news tracker |
| 16:14.40 | Torhal | Perpetually. |
| 16:14.44 | pompy | ok? |
| 16:14.53 | quiescens | gives pompy a cookie |
| 16:22.44 | Stanzilla | hey Torhal |
| 16:22.47 | Stanzilla | wanna be my lover? |
| 16:22.59 | Stanzilla | if you wanna be my lover, you have got to give |
| 16:23.00 | Torhal | No, but I'm sure Fisker will. |
| 16:34.19 | Stanzilla | if you ain't got no money, take your broke ass home |
| 16:34.52 | Stanzilla | spotify pop radio station pretty good today |
| 16:54.39 | Stanzilla | "Bereits im Sommer 2015 hat der Steam-Betreiber Valve die Sub-Domain xbox.steampowered.com gesichert" |
| 16:54.43 | Stanzilla | ...shut the fuck up |
| 16:56.28 | nevcairiel | someone is smart |
| 16:57.08 | Stanzilla | gamestar |
| 16:57.46 | nevcairiel | never liked gamestar much |
| 16:57.56 | Stanzilla | "@Telshin: @stanzillaz @kaelten People got temporarily diverted for a major push, but weâll be back on WowAce and the rest of CurseForge soon" |
| 16:58.02 | Stanzilla | yeah okay |
| 16:58.45 | quiescens | \o/ |
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| 17:01.42 | Megalon | damn, better sicher myself all those subdomains |
| 17:03.40 | Ressy | what happend Stanzilla? |
| 17:04.31 | Ressy | ahh. found the tweet. |
| 17:04.35 | Ressy | aka never getting done. |
| 17:04.53 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 17:05.01 | Stanzilla | I like how he called for help from papa Kaelten :D |
| 17:05.05 | Stanzilla | I didnt mention him before :D |
| 17:05.18 | Ressy | Kaelten's too busy. Things getting dropped. He needs an assistant. |
| 17:05.25 | Stanzilla | also can the fucking TeamSpeak devs fix this vulnerability |
| 17:05.33 | Stanzilla | I dont like having exploitable code on my server |
| 17:10.04 | Stanzilla | best part is how the guy that wrote the exploit tool now provides "fixed" binaries and some hosters start using them because it makes the crashes stop |
| 17:10.06 | Stanzilla | :< |
| 17:10.35 | Megalon | sounds like the reasonable thing to do |
| 17:18.34 | pompy | probably a security researcher duder. |
| 17:34.30 | Gnarfoz | meaning what? |
| 17:34.44 | Gnarfoz | also what are you talking about Stanzilla, have I been hax0red, yet? |
| 17:36.15 | Stanzilla | I think the tool only crashes the server instance |
| 17:38.00 | Megalon | perhaps it only happens because you forgot to register the right subdomain on your server |
| 17:38.18 | Stanzilla | perhaps it only happens because shut the fuck up |
| 17:40.41 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: didnt they release a fixed server, or is the fix also broken |
| 17:40.49 | Stanzilla | the latter |
| 17:41.06 | Stanzilla | it's actually exploitable on all older versions, too |
| 17:41.08 | nevcairiel | i mean they are on .18.2 already |
| 17:41.10 | Stanzilla | so downgrading is no option |
| 17:41.18 | nevcairiel | oh wiat thats client |
| 17:41.21 | nevcairiel | cant read |
| 17:41.41 | Stanzilla | 12.1 is the server release that fixes 2 security vulns |
| 17:42.03 | nevcairiel | luckily my server is small and unknown =p |
| 17:42.55 | Stanzilla | I removed mine from those public crawlers some time ago |
| 17:42.57 | Stanzilla | that helped |
| 17:43.16 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 17:43.34 | Fisker | What's going on? |
| 17:44.09 | Stanzilla | nothing |
| 17:44.33 | Fisker | something is |
| 17:56.09 | pompy | hm comcast could have been attacked.. http://downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity/map/ |
| 18:00.00 | nevcairiel | pompy: nah they are just incompetent |
| 18:17.44 | Fisker | kill me nevcairiel |
| 18:17.57 | nevcairiel | kills Fisker |
| 18:19.38 | Fisker | why |
| 18:19.47 | nevcairiel | you asked for it! |
| 18:20.20 | Fisker | I need to build my own shit because people suck |
| 18:20.32 | Fisker | But it's written in python |
| 18:21.43 | Fisker | I don't want to download python :( |
| 18:22.38 | Gnarfoz | Atlassian stack sucks bad |
| 18:22.51 | Gnarfoz | makes me want to host it in ZE CLAUD |
| 18:23.05 | Gnarfoz | so their monkeys can fix dumb issues instead of me |
| 18:23.45 | nevcairiel | for work? |
| 18:23.59 | nevcairiel | but you get paid for general monkeying |
| 18:24.19 | Gnarfoz | I do |
| 18:24.24 | Gnarfoz | but... this is not worth it |
| 18:24.24 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:24.52 | nevcairiel | atlassian products are largely overrated, i found after actually using them |
| 18:24.57 | nevcairiel | they market well and use crappy |
| 18:25.22 | Gnarfoz | the tools are ok-ish, but they have become (or maybe have always been) Enterprise Java crap, built to fail |
| 18:25.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:25.44 | nevcairiel | the tools are over-complex and enterprise |
| 18:26.35 | nevcairiel | OSS variants are usually better, but because they are enterprise and offer a full tool suite from one vendor, companies use them |
| 18:32.27 | Fisker | Know any better ones? |
| 18:32.29 | Gnarfoz | argh Confluence uses an entirely different Tomcat setup |
| 18:33.11 | Fisker | What's wrong with confluence? |
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| 18:57.06 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: .12.2 is out |
| 18:59.19 | nevcairiel | ..and updated |
| 19:00.19 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:01.37 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: where did they announce that |
| 19:01.47 | Stanzilla | or did you just happen to check the dl page |
| 19:01.55 | nevcairiel | i just checked the dl page |
| 19:02.06 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:11.34 | Fisker | 12 |
| 19:11.39 | Fisker | 12.2? |
| 19:12.01 | nevcairiel | 3.0.12.2 |
| 19:12.17 | Fisker | Of what? |
| 19:12.22 | nevcairiel | ts3 server |
| 19:12.51 | Fisker | Lol |
| 19:12.57 | Fisker | Who still uses that shit |
| 19:13.05 | nevcairiel | everyone |
| 19:13.21 | Fisker | I don't |
| 19:15.38 | nevcairiel | for some reason thats depending on country, some countries are ventrilo-country, some use teamspeak, some use both, and germany just uses mainly teamspeak, at least in wow |
| 19:16.08 | Fisker | Who the fuck would use ventrilo |
| 19:16.20 | Fisker | M U M B L E B O Y S |
| 19:16.23 | nevcairiel | if you would tell some random to install mumble or vent, they would rather go find a new group =p |
| 19:16.38 | Fisker | Good |
| 19:16.48 | Fisker | Then you don't need to tell them to fuck off |
| 19:16.54 | Fisker | Win/win |
| 19:16.57 | nevcairiel | in any case, ts3 works fine for us |
| 19:17.30 | pompy | vent>ts |
| 19:17.53 | nevcairiel | that may have been true in the time of ts2, but not for a long time =p |
| 19:18.14 | nevcairiel | vent is dead anyway |
| 19:18.53 | nevcairiel | no real updates for 4-5 years |
| 19:19.23 | Stanzilla | vent is the worst |
| 19:35.44 | Fisker | Mumble -> WebRTC -> Skype -> Hangouts -> Lync -> Audio Redirection over RDP -> SIP -> Two cans connected with a piece of string -> Teamspeak 3 -> Ventrilo |
| 19:36.16 | Fisker | I can confirm Stanzilla |
| 19:37.27 | Megalon | confirmation bias confirmed |
| 19:39.56 | Fisker | I don't understand |
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| 19:59.14 | Stanzilla | Torhal: ping |
| 19:59.39 | Torhal | Stanzilla: pong |
| 19:59.43 | Stanzilla | pm |
| 20:00.29 | Fisker | Stanzilla's lucky man Torhal ? |
| 20:00.56 | Torhal | Might be better than the other, Fisker. |
| 20:01.16 | Fisker | Maybe |
| 20:01.47 | Gnarfoz | vent had horrible delay even in ts2 times |
| 20:01.56 | Gnarfoz | also, dat licencing |
| 20:02.10 | Gnarfoz | and since Mumble and TS3 use the same codec, I find Fisker's list hilarious |
| 20:04.36 | Fisker | It's a nice list |
| 20:04.54 | Fisker | http://marlamin.com/u/freesoftware.gif |
| 20:05.56 | Gnarfoz | TS3 is also free, but don't tell that to RMS |
| 20:06.13 | Gnarfoz | on that thought, is Opus free of any patent encumberments...? :D |
| 20:08.09 | nevcairiel | so they claim, but probably not |
| 20:08.13 | nevcairiel | its impossible to ever confirm that |
| 20:09.07 | Stanzilla | quiescens: you are from australia, right? |
| 20:09.38 | Gnarfoz | he's from o.o country |
| 20:09.59 | Torhal | The land of moo. |
| 20:10.31 | Gnarfoz | I like that Torhal has adjusted his whork schedule to spend more time with us |
| 20:11.02 | Torhal | Heh |
| 20:11.56 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you got a Maxnomic XL, right? |
| 20:12.30 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 20:12.32 | nevcairiel | titanus orange |
| 20:13.05 | Gnarfoz | still liking it? |
| 20:13.20 | Gnarfoz | I recall you saying something along the lines of "it's nice, but it's still too expensive"? ^^ |
| 20:13.49 | nevcairiel | I like it |
| 20:13.56 | nevcairiel | not sure if there is others better priced |
| 20:14.03 | nevcairiel | but it does what I need it to do =p |
| 20:14.14 | Stanzilla | withstand the mighty farts |
| 20:14.21 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 20:14.38 | Stanzilla | why is quiescens not here :( |
| 20:14.42 | Stanzilla | I need an Austrlian |
| 20:14.44 | Stanzilla | *a |
| 20:14.46 | nevcairiel | its kunstleder so you stick to it in summer, but what can you do |
| 20:16.48 | nevcairiel | I mostly picked the XL because its built for people of my height, most others are like up to 190cm or maybe up to 200cm if you're lucky, but being 201 choosing the one thats 190-210 seemed better =p |
| 20:20.53 | Fisker | I like Torhal |
| 20:21.10 | Torhal | I feel I should be scared. |
| 20:21.20 | nevcairiel | Definitely. |
| 20:22.21 | Fisker | Nothing to be scared about Torhal |
| 20:22.28 | Fisker | It's guy love |
| 20:22.34 | Torhal | .. |
| 20:23.28 | Fisker | ? |
| 20:23.34 | Fisker | Don't worry it's between two guys |
| 20:23.41 | Torhal | Stuff. And things. |
| 20:24.21 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:24.36 | Fisker | I guess it's not guy love |
| 20:24.51 | Fisker | What now then |
| 20:27.27 | Torhal | You could always buy a horse. |
| 20:28.50 | Fisker | No thanks |
| 20:29.05 | Fisker | A horse won't make me smile when I'm down |
| 20:29.07 | nevcairiel | you could buy me a horse |
| 20:29.42 | Torhal | You don't smile, though, Fisker. |
| 20:30.54 | Fisker | Maybe I would if I had someone to cheer me up |
| 20:31.42 | Torhal | Are mail-order brides still a thing? |
| 20:31.46 | Torhal | That might work. |
| 20:33.27 | Fisker | How so? |
| 20:33.38 | Torhal | Guess not. |
| 20:35.01 | Fisker | I see |
| 20:35.05 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I updated to 3.0.12.2, am I safe from evul hax0rs now? |
| 20:35.13 | Fisker | ð¢ð« |
| 20:35.25 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: never safe |
| 20:36.05 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel confirmed evul hax0r |
| 20:36.55 | nevcairiel | is your ts even still used? you switched guild so often, i forgot if you still hosted for them =p |
| 20:37.28 | Gnarfoz | we still use it for when "we" are around |
| 20:37.32 | Gnarfoz | and for Overwatch, of course ^^ |
| 20:38.02 | Gnarfoz | and I've been hosting a separate one for my first wow guild back in 2005, still |
| 20:38.09 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:38.17 | Gnarfoz | although they've also become more of a big family thing, rather than a raid guild or anything |
| 20:38.20 | nevcairiel | i will probably not get to play overwatch until release |
| 20:39.37 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: until they use the next one, yeah |
| 20:39.59 | Ressy | Bah. I don't want to be awake.. Munchkin only let me sleep an hour.. |
| 20:40.34 | Fisker | I get to sleep soon at least though |
| 20:41.01 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I hope they add more people, the pool is so tiny, ugh >_> |
| 20:41.21 | nevcairiel | most probably dont even play regularly that could |
| 20:42.01 | Fisker | I'm doing my best Gnarfoz |
| 20:42.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: as usual T_T but Blizz has the stats, so they probably think it's ok so far |
| 20:42.43 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 20:42.58 | nevcairiel | they kept OW small for so long, its clearly intentional |
| 20:44.22 | Fisker | I love John Oliver |
| 20:45.46 | Fisker | What about you Torhal ? |
| 20:46.15 | nevcairiel | let the poor torhal work Fisker, he has 18 cats to feed with his earnings afterall! |
| 20:46.25 | Torhal | Never watched him, or Colbert, or the Daily Show, or anything of the sort. |
| 20:46.31 | Fisker | Oh |
| 20:46.34 | Fisker | ;( |
| 20:47.45 | Fisker | I'm gonna sheep then |
| 20:47.48 | Fisker | Maybe sleep |
| 20:48.02 | Torhal | I should sleep, also. |
| 20:48.08 | Fisker | Don't do it |
| 20:48.10 | nevcairiel | also sheep? |
| 20:48.18 | Torhal | Too much not sleeping going on, though. |
| 20:48.20 | Torhal | No sheep for me. |
| 20:48.50 | Fisker | Try to sleep |
| 20:49.41 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I love how at least one guy in the ts3 server thread is like "stop editing my posts and make a useful reply instead!" :D |
| 20:49.58 | Gnarfoz | what else to expect from TS |
| 20:50.13 | Fisker | My feet hurt |
| 20:50.23 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:50.30 | Stanzilla | their forum police is pretty special |
| 20:50.35 | nevcairiel | that guy probably posted IPs or something, they have been editing those out |
| 20:50.58 | Stanzilla | they also edit and delete "offtopic" |
| 20:51.04 | nevcairiel | and its not like the users posting on that forum are any smarter |
| 20:51.26 | Gnarfoz | bleh, OW is down? :( |
| 20:51.34 | Gnarfoz | Fisker Stanzilla can you log in? |
| 20:51.45 | Gnarfoz | (neither SSO nor direct login work for me) |
| 20:51.47 | Stanzilla | cant try atm |
| 20:51.47 | Fisker | I'm not at my computer |
| 20:51.56 | Gnarfoz | D: |
| 20:52.20 | Fisker | Doesn't seem to work |
| 20:53.14 | Fisker | Oh boy |
| 20:53.27 | Fisker | At least tomorrow is regular work day |
| 20:53.41 | nevcairiel | so was today |
| 20:53.59 | Fisker | Nope |
| 20:54.04 | nevcairiel | why not |
| 20:54.33 | Fisker | Meetings today |
| 21:05.25 | Gnarfoz | Meetings are the worst |
| 21:05.50 | nevcairiel | sometimes i liked them |
| 21:06.38 | nevcairiel | but my role pretty much guaranteed that when i was invited to a meeting, it was usually for a good reason |
| 21:18.52 | Fisker | I wanted to sleep |
| 21:26.56 | Fisker | I want pascal |
| 21:27.24 | nevcairiel | me too |
| 21:28.18 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: do you have hyper-v enabled? |
| 21:28.22 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:28.27 | nevcairiel | i use vbox on this system |
| 21:28.35 | Fisker | uwot |
| 21:28.42 | nevcairiel | because i read once that enabling hyper-v does something to the kernel that may not be ideal |
| 21:28.59 | Fisker | Sexy |
| 21:30.24 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: precisely why I was asking - it's a different kernel, and no turbo boost and such... re: audio problem |
| 21:30.51 | Gnarfoz | hm, the lubricant on my spacebar seems to have dissolved, it's all clattery :O |
| 21:30.58 | Gnarfoz | too much jumping around! |
| 21:30.59 | nevcairiel | I only boot those VMs once a month or so at most, and vbox works perfectly fine for me, including seamless and whatnot, not sure hyper-v could e ven offer that |
| 21:31.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, just asking because of the technical effects |
| 21:31.30 | nevcairiel | can you even turn that off again |
| 21:31.36 | nevcairiel | i assume you have it on |
| 21:31.50 | nevcairiel | or you assumed i might? |
| 21:31.53 | nevcairiel | i r confused |
| 21:31.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:32.00 | Gnarfoz | I assumed you might |
| 21:32.23 | Gnarfoz | because it's trimmed for consistency and what not --> no spikes (of whatever sort) --> no audio problem |
| 21:32.55 | Gnarfoz | and yes you can turn it back off, by "removing" the hyper-v feature again (same way as you enable it, from Windows features blah thing) |
| 21:33.56 | nevcairiel | honestly I have no clue if my system would spike under such conditions, i just never run torrent on it |
| 21:34.01 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if changing my server's IP will make them nuke my ts3 non-profit licence |
| 21:34.21 | Gnarfoz | yeah, well, ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 21:34.50 | nevcairiel | but nothing i usually do causes any sort of glitches |
| 21:35.18 | Dessa | Gnarfoz: it does not. |
| 21:35.26 | Dessa | i did that two times already |
| 21:35.29 | Stanzilla | same |
| 21:35.30 | nevcairiel | i assume you tried ripping out any kind of security software, if you have any |
| 21:35.42 | Gnarfoz | Dessa: good to hear |
| 21:35.56 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: only Windows Defender, nothing 3rd party |
| 21:36.07 | Gnarfoz | I guess I could whitelist qB in Windows Defender |
| 21:40.47 | Gnarfoz | nope, happened right away :D |
| 21:41.02 | Gnarfoz | even though qB is sitting at 0/0 traffic |
| 21:41.07 | nevcairiel | o.o |
| 21:41.21 | nevcairiel | did you try some more crazy things, like disabling CPU power management, disabling hyper-threading |
| 21:41.45 | Gnarfoz | yeah, when I went all "disable ALL the things" two weeks ago |
| 21:41.56 | Gnarfoz | I don't think I disabled HT, but pretty much everything else |
| 21:42.50 | Gnarfoz | of course LatencyMon still complained about "it might be power management related" |
| 21:42.55 | nevcairiel | HT can cause DPC issues with some drivers, although I dont think i heard about it in conjunction with ndis/tcp yet |
| 21:43.03 | Gnarfoz | it just seems completely unable to figure out the actual CPU frequency |
| 21:43.49 | Gnarfoz | I also wonder why music doesn't stop for sbu when he gets an UAC popup |
| 21:44.17 | nevcairiel | that depends on your output device |
| 21:45.12 | Gnarfoz | it does? |
| 21:45.25 | Gnarfoz | let me guess: exclusive mode? |
| 21:45.28 | nevcairiel | i dont think it should generally stop audio just because UAC happens |
| 21:45.32 | nevcairiel | what do you use for output? |
| 21:45.38 | Gnarfoz | my onboard sound card |
| 21:45.42 | nevcairiel | and sbu? |
| 21:45.43 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:45.46 | Gnarfoz | no idea |
| 21:45.48 | Gnarfoz | he ded |
| 21:46.04 | nevcairiel | hm how do i provoke a uac popup |
| 21:46.14 | Gnarfoz | task manager |
| 21:46.17 | nevcairiel | hm nope nothing |
| 21:46.18 | Stanzilla | launch something as admin |
| 21:46.21 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 21:46.39 | nevcairiel | on highest UAC setting, audio continues |
| 21:46.42 | Gnarfoz | if task manager doesn't get you a popup, you're running an insecure UAC level anyway |
| 21:46.44 | nevcairiel | using realtek out |
| 21:46.55 | Gnarfoz | i just turned it down to 2nd lowest, then Chrome keeps on playing |
| 21:47.03 | nevcairiel | but not using chrome for audio |
| 21:47.05 | nevcairiel | lets try thjat |
| 21:47.33 | nevcairiel | still works playing google music |
| 21:48.04 | Gnarfoz | fb2k keeps on playing for me, too |
| 21:48.07 | Gnarfoz | even at highest setting |
| 21:48.31 | Gnarfoz | so they must be doing something differently ^^ |
| 21:49.01 | nevcairiel | well chrome also keeps playing here |
| 21:49.02 | nevcairiel | so shrug |
| 21:49.14 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 21:49.38 | Gnarfoz | what the hell |
| 21:49.49 | Gnarfoz | process hacker just told me "the service mp123lkjlkansf" something was deleted |
| 21:49.57 | nevcairiel | all people i can find with such spike issues usually end up replacing their NIC or WIFI card and that fixes it for them |
| 21:50.00 | Gnarfoz | I didn't even see the name that quickly |
| 21:50.38 | Gnarfoz | well, I tried that :\ maybe I did something wrong there, I dunno. reinstall without intel NIC enabled, haha |
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| 21:51.08 | Gnarfoz | I wonder what the hell service that was |
| 21:51.13 | nevcairiel | could try disabling NDU, if thats even still a thing on 10 |
| 21:51.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure what that is |
| 21:51.36 | Gnarfoz | although I think I've heard the acronym |
| 21:52.19 | nevcairiel | Network Data Usage monitoring service |
| 21:52.50 | nevcairiel | apparently still exists |
| 21:53.36 | Gnarfoz | let me guess, for this crap? http://i.imgur.com/ESAZxWh.png |
| 21:53.46 | nevcairiel | no idea what exactly it does |
| 21:53.54 | nevcairiel | but you need th registry to disable it |
| 21:54.10 | nevcairiel | HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Ndu -> set Start to 4 |
| 21:54.21 | nevcairiel | and reboot |
| 21:54.49 | Gnarfoz | process hacker can do it too |
| 21:54.52 | nevcairiel | it used to be bugged to heall in early windows 8 and leak memory sometimes |
| 21:55.17 | Gnarfoz | (at least it didn't complain when I set it to disabled just now) |
| 21:57.36 | pompy | http://kotaku.com/activision-has-been-hit-with-layoffs-i-m-told-freesty-1759229868 |
| 21:58.58 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: at least you can usually reproduce the problem within seconds =p |
| 21:59.43 | nevcairiel | imagine it would be a once every 2 hours thing, that drives you even more mad |
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| 22:00.03 | Gnarfoz | well :| |
| 22:00.03 | Gnarfoz | yeah ;p |
| 22:00.07 | Gnarfoz | I' |
| 22:00.20 | Gnarfoz | I'm still kind of confused by the service/driver thing just now |
| 22:01.17 | Gnarfoz | kind of suspicious it happened right when I was fiddling with UAC settings |
| 22:01.17 | nevcairiel | well i dont envy you in any case |
| 22:01.17 | Gnarfoz | even though it was "removed" |
| 22:01.17 | Gnarfoz | (might have been added a second before, who knows) |
| 22:01.42 | nevcairiel | now either my quassel core or my network is lagging |
| 22:25.52 | nevcairiel | i dont suppose the NDU thing changed anything |
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| 22:44.58 | Gnarfoz | I haven't rebooted, yet |
| 22:45.19 | Gnarfoz | but I got a spike "attributed to" (maybe LatencyMon isn't such a good idea in the first place? :P) netbt.sys |
| 22:47.53 | Gnarfoz | pages like this are hilariously bad: http://www.reviversoft.com/processes/netbt.sys 100% autogenerated |
| 22:48.18 | Gnarfoz | "To stop netbt.sys, permanently you need to uninstall the application that runs this process which in this case is NT File System Driver, from your system." sure! let's do that. |
| 22:50.42 | Gnarfoz | http://www.needforseat.de/shop/office-comfort/maxnomic-needforseat-ofc.php now with finger rest! wtf |
| 22:54.26 | Gnarfoz | kind of annoying, I'm right between their 2nd and 3rd size |
| 22:54.45 | Gnarfoz | ~187 cm and sadly a bit over 100 kg most of the time :D |
| 22:55.20 | Gnarfoz | but I know I'm lazy, so banking on losing weight so I don't exceed the chair's rated weight seems disingenious :P |
| 22:56.09 | Gnarfoz | Fisker Stanzilla OW is back, apparently |
| 22:59.41 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: the color design on the Titanus is a way better than any of the office comfort ones, IMHO. more subtle use of the color |
| 23:09.12 | Gnarfoz | hmmm. just took a few measurements... according to the chart, the office comfort seat might actually be narrower than my 150⬠no-name chair |
| 23:09.29 | Gnarfoz | and I'd probably be using it at the lowest height instead of the highest, hmm |
| 23:13.33 | Gnarfoz | looks like I won't get around paying them a visit |
| 23:14.06 | Gnarfoz | (which would only be at the end of March, hope this chair stays alive until then :D) |
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