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01:50.39Stanzillacurse fixed the favicon \op/
01:50.47Zeldolol
01:57.16Megalonwoohoo
02:02.23TrelaFor?
02:02.49Stanzillaaddon pages on curse.com had a 404 favicon
02:03.25TrelaAh.
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03:29.30Stanzillaznf: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/49pf7d/you_can_set_your_own_dpi_sort_of_in_android_n_and/
03:29.34Stanzillawasnt that something you did?
03:30.46Stanzillahttp://developer.android.com/preview/api-overview.html#quick_path_to_app_install
03:30.52StanzillaOne of the most tangible benefits of ART's JIT compiler is the speed of app installs and system updates. Even large apps that required several minutes to optimize and install in Android 6.0 can now install in just a matter of seconds. System updates are also faster, since there's no more optimizing step.
03:30.54Stanzillagod fuckign finally
03:37.00Megalonhoo-fucking-ray
03:55.47znfStanzilla, nope
03:55.50znfnever messed with my DPI
03:55.59Stanzillaok
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04:43.56Fiskerhey Stanzilla
04:45.13Stanzillahey Fisker
04:46.06FiskerI did it
04:46.35Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/roZIwmP.png
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04:58.21StanzillaI want it
04:58.37StanzillaFisker: did you read that ne of the most tangible benefits of ART's JIT compiler is the speed of app installs and system updates. Even large apps that required several minutes to optimize and install in Android 6.0 can now install in just a matter of seconds. System updates are also faster, since there's no more optimizing step.
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04:58.45Fiskeryes
04:58.49Fiskersome of the oldest news Stanzilla
04:59.06Stanzillafuck you
04:59.19FiskerThis was discovered months ago
04:59.28FiskerBack during the change to Java 8 as I recall it
05:13.45Fiskergr8 driver from nvidia
05:13.52Fiskercan't not install the 3D driver shit
05:18.29Stanzillastill sad, Fisker
05:18.39Fiskerwhat is?
05:18.42Stanzillaand you fan Fisker
05:18.43Stanzillac
05:18.51Fisker?
05:18.51Stanzillajust delete the folders after unpacking
05:18.56Stanzillathen start installer
05:19.00Fiskerah
05:19.03FiskerAlready installed
05:19.06Fiskerjust used express instead
05:19.06Stanzillawellll
05:19.10Stanzillaand the N situation!
05:19.12StanzillaI want it!
05:19.18Fiskerdon't die
05:19.47FiskerN on Nexus Player is fucked
05:20.20FiskerDoesn't seem like the live channels apps work
05:20.29FiskerAnd the settings interface is the phone UI one
05:20.29Fisker:D
05:21.16Stanzillalol
05:21.33StanzillaI'm so close to just ordering a 6p and selling a kidney
05:22.58Fisker:(
05:25.08FiskerIt's not so good though Stanzilla
05:25.11FiskerQuassel doesn't work
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05:30.46StanzillaI know it isnt but yeah
05:30.48Stanzillateh hype is real
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09:40.20Fiskerhey nevcairiel
09:40.28Fiskerare you a fan of the division?
09:42.45winkI bet he loves 5/3. 2/3 is also pretty awesome
09:44.33nevcairieli only do long division
09:45.16winkI'd love to try it
09:45.27winkespecially as someone wrote it feels a bit like ME2
09:45.33winkfrom a RPG-shooter standpoint
09:45.57winkbecasuse I'd surely hate it if it was a 'normal' shooter
09:46.08winkcurious, but not 60 EUR-curious
09:53.11nevcairielthey had open beta two weeks ago or so
09:53.14nevcairielmissed it
09:53.14nevcairiel:P
09:53.55winkwas on vacation until the 2nd
09:54.21Stanzillano games on vacation
09:54.28Stanzillawhat kind of a normal person are you
09:54.43winkI was halfway across the globe, I had better things to do :P
09:54.55winkplus the laptop I packed has a shitty graphics card and ubuntu
09:55.31winkactually I also would have paid ~6 eur per hour of internet I think. maybe 2. and I don't even want to know about the speed :P
09:56.04Stanzillawhere were you
09:56.13winkat that time, Cuba
09:56.37Stanzillanice
09:56.40Stanzillawas there in 2004
09:57.12winkwell, people do have cellphones with data plans now :P
09:57.21winkbut not if you're only there for 2 weeks
10:10.00Stanzillait's 30 euro btw if you use a brazil vpn :D
10:14.10winkm(
10:14.34winkeu não falo português :P
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10:41.34Gnarfozmh
10:41.38Gnarfozhow do I download this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.easyMover >_>
10:41.46Gnarfozit's not compatible with any of my devices :D
10:42.23winkget someone with a samsung? :P
10:42.36nevcairielhe has one, but it probably doesnt like his CM on it =p
10:44.37quiescensmoo
10:45.09Fiskerhey nevcairiel
10:45.15FiskerI don't usually give a fuck about these games
10:46.20Kalrothbut hey, here we are
10:50.12Gnarfoznevcairiel: supposedly "Android 4.0+" but maybe that's actually "Android 4.0 - <6" ^^
10:51.11quiescensclearly you'll need to downgrade
10:54.06GnarfozI could just not use this "smart switch" app
10:55.51quiescensgives Gnarfoz a cookie
10:56.33Gnarfozbut I want to try :P I guess I need to install some app to grap the apk from my S7
10:58.33quiescenswrite your own
10:58.35quiescens\o/
10:59.41Gnarfozfunnily enough, the S7 is also incompatible with the app. :P
11:00.01nevcairieli th ink it comes pre-installed on samsung phones though
11:02.55Gnarfozyeah it even says so in the app description
11:03.05Gnarfozanyway, es file explorer to the rescue
11:05.22Gnarfozwhat
11:05.27Gnarfoz"sorry, cannot start this application"
11:05.29Gnarfozthe hell.
11:08.26Stanzillatopkek
11:09.00Stanzillaalso Gnarfoz
11:09.02Stanzillacan you read
11:09.05Stanzillabecause it says WHAT'S NEW
11:09.05Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
11:09.05StanzillaNote to Galaxy S7/S7 edge owners : Smart Switch Mobile is already preloaded on your device. To access, tap [Settings] > [Backup and reset] > [Open Smart Switch] to open Smart Switch Mobile.
11:09.39Gnarfozdid I not just say that?
11:09.46Gnarfozcan you read? :P
11:09.52Stanzillanope you did not
11:10.00Gnarfoz12:02:55Gnarfozyeah it even says so in the app description
11:10.09Stanzillawell that but you still tried to open it?
11:10.29Gnarfozeh? the s7 part was never in question, that works fine.
11:10.35Stanzillaoh ok
11:10.36GnarfozI obviously need to install it on my old phone!
11:10.42Stanzillaok ok!
11:10.49Gnarfozand I used ES to copy it over... but it just won't run
11:11.04Gnarfozguess their "Android 4.0+" really means "Touchwiz abominations Android 4.0+"
11:11.05Gnarfoz:D
11:14.39Stanzillahttp://asset-3.soupcdn.com/asset/16055/7566_34b1.gif
11:14.42Stanzillaawawwww
11:15.26nevcairielmaybe the version on the s7 is just not quite the original
11:15.58nevcairielGnarfoz: there is browser extensions to grab an APK from the play store website
11:16.16nevcairielalthough its kinda complicated
11:16.59nevcairielGnarfoz: or use http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=com.sec.android.easyMover
11:17.19GnarfozI didn't quite know which of those extensions/sites to trust/not trust
11:17.23Gnarfozsome of them want your password
11:17.27Gnarfozwhich they clearly shouldn't
11:18.17nevcairielthis website doesnt, and can always verify if the app signature is still in tact
11:21.53Gnarfozhow?
11:22.12GnarfozI only know that it's safe to install updates from 3rd party sources, since Android checks if it's the same package as the one being updated
11:22.17Gnarfozbut how do I do that for new apps?
11:25.23nevcairielhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/7104624/how-do-i-verify-that-an-android-apk-is-signed-with-a-release-certificate
11:25.31nevcairielmanual labor, but yeah
11:38.41Gnarfozhm, and how do I compare that to what's in the play store, when I can't download it from there?
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11:39.02nevcairieljust check if it says samsung
11:39.10Gnarfozthat seems too easy to fake ;p
11:39.26nevcairielits like a ssl certificate, if it has a trusted chain you should trust the name on it
11:39.58Gnarfozthat means trusting "the CA" to not give certificates to people that "shouldn't have them"
11:40.38Gnarfozlet me guess, I jarsigner is only in the JDK?
11:40.50nevcairielappears so
11:41.19Gnarfoz:effort:
11:41.24GnarfozI don't even know what it would copy
11:41.25nevcairielor just install it
11:41.26Gnarfozprobably pictures?
11:41.34nevcairielor dont migrate shit like me
11:41.51Gnarfozthe "hey, wanna tap your new device to your old device to migrate?" stuff worked amazingly fine
11:42.07Gnarfozit attached my google account + restored what looks like all apps I have installed
11:42.18GnarfozI'm not convinced I need more than that ^^
11:42.36Gnarfozmh. no root kind of means I can't use titaniumbackup anymore, though :|
11:42.41nevcairielit should do the second when you do the first manually
11:43.55Gnarfozdo what?
11:45.00nevcairielrestore your apps
11:45.08nevcairielthrough your google account
11:45.10Gnarfozit did
11:45.26Gnarfozthis has never worked before when I reinstalled my other phone, though
11:45.34Gnarfozthat's why I was amazed it actually did what it's supposed to for once
11:47.57Gnarfozbleh
11:48.04Gnarfozdid I delete my Samsung account?
12:05.11Gnarfoznice, dark material theme
12:05.19Gnarfozlooks almost acceptable
12:20.54znfSo, question.
12:21.12znfWe have some old clients, with 2-hours per month tech support, their server, but we offer support for it
12:21.21znfThey are on Debian 6, which is EOL
12:21.52znfHow do I approach them on telling them their OS is dead and if there's a security issue, the vendor has discontinued it?
12:29.46Stanzillawill they notice when you upgrade it?
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12:45.33znfStanzilla, I'm not upgrading their servers for free/during production
12:46.11nevcairielthen wait for the first security flaw and hack them
12:46.11nevcairiel:D
12:46.28Stanzillaoffer them to upgrade for a price
12:47.01Stanzillaif they dont accept tell them that if they get hacked it's their fault and carry on
12:47.02znfStanzilla, that's what I plan to
12:47.20winkagreed.
12:47.21znfbut there's no way in hell I'll upgrade it
12:47.31znfI'd rather install a new one and migrate services
12:47.56winkI once upgraded suse 10.0 to 10.3 iirc. step by step via 10.1 and 10.2
12:48.16winkat some point yum was broken and I did dependency resolution on a whiteboard
12:48.18winkthat was fun
12:48.50Stanzillalol
12:49.12znfI just reinstall things, rather than trying to figure out what's wrong with them
12:49.13znfwasted time
12:53.15winkwell it was kind of important in that case
12:53.23winkdon't ask :P
12:53.44winkusually I'd agree with fresh OS, then just your congif management script ;)
13:06.40znfthe ones I have in mind - one is a mail server
13:06.43znfone is a web server
13:07.10winkweb server is usually pain free
13:07.23winkevery few years when I reinstall my mailserver.. I plan at least a weekend
13:07.36znfthere's about 200gb of mails on that server...
13:08.10znfI want to use https://mailinabox.email/ next time I install a mailserver
13:19.42Fiskerhey Stanzilla
13:19.54znfhey Fiskerilla
13:20.14Fiskerno
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13:21.27Stanzillahi
13:45.58Gnarfozlolol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdHzlWDUUAAWIqm.jpg:large
13:47.34winkgood one ya
13:48.27hastehaha
13:48.39nevcairiellol
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14:08.15znfoh come on http://i.imgur.com/CDb1SNS.png
14:14.18Stanzillahahahah
14:14.28Stanzillashould have waited a minute longer
14:29.12Fiskery Gnarfoz
14:29.13Fiskerbest
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15:28.38pompyhttps://www.facebook.com/sneakhype/videos/10154621044567166/ lmao ... and the language is sensored
15:30.42Gnarfozpompy: :D great
15:31.17pompyindeed.
15:43.10Megalonlol
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16:45.07GnarfozI shouldn't have started upgrading to vcenter 6 this late in the day >_>
16:46.23quiescensgoto sleep
16:46.25quiescens^^
16:52.23Gnarfozbitch, I might
16:55.58Fiskertldr Stanzilla
17:17.38FiskerI miss authenticator codes Stanzilla
17:17.47MysticalOSit's coming
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18:09.12Gnarfozsnapshots ftw
18:09.36Gnarfozattached the vsphere iso image to the vm through a vmware remote console session I initiated through vcenter
18:09.53Gnarfozas soon as the upgrade tool shut down vcenter, the iso was gone :D
18:09.56Gnarfozwhoops
18:17.32pompycosmetic item patch?
18:18.27nevcairielwat
18:20.08pompyd3
18:20.37nevcairielall those are just for china, like in any previous patches
18:20.47nevcairielthey have a micro-transaction shop to buy them
18:21.25Phixionsnipes Gnarfoz
18:22.42quiescenso.o
18:25.29Phixion('-' ) (._. ) (o_o) ( ._.) ( '-')
18:30.02quiescensgives Phixion a cookie
18:30.11Phixion\o/
18:44.01Stanzillanevcairiel: no pompy is right for once
18:44.06Stanzillacosmetics drop now
18:44.09Stanzillalots of them
18:44.19Stanzillathey havent said why yet though
18:44.21nevcairielhe didnt exactly elaborate much on his comment =p
18:44.27StanzillaI know, just saying
18:44.34Stanzilla#justpompythings
18:44.51Stanzillahttps://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/49l771/241_undocumented_changes/
18:44.53nevcairielhey if those things just drop for us when china has to buy them, even better
18:44.59nevcairielmight just be a bug though
18:45.01nevcairielwho knows
18:45.05Stanzillayup
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19:03.47harlonwhy dies my game switch to character-specific key bindings with every reload/relog -.-
19:05.47harlonok, not with every relog/reload but only sometimes? wtf?
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19:18.34harlonmaybe if i just remove the corresponding files, it won't create new ones without a dialogue or something first
19:21.01harlonespecially those *.old files
19:22.39harlonwhich seem to contain key bindings that i haven't used in years.. wtf, where do these come from
19:27.13MysticalOSTorhal, add more rams!
19:27.50TorhalI have no download it first, MysticalOS.
19:28.09MysticalOSconstruct additional pylons
19:28.13nevcairielwut are you d oing
19:28.23MysticalOShttp://wow.curseforge.com/packager/
19:28.25TorhalPackager is FUBAR, nevcairiel.
19:28.36nevcairielwhats new
19:28.42TorhalNothing.
19:29.09TorhalWell, except for the fact that MysticalOS is using Git and the Universe didn't go pear-shaped.
19:29.39harlonlol..
19:29.51harlonmaybe it should..
19:31.36TorhalThough, thinking on it, that's about the time the packager ran out of memory.
19:32.23MysticalOSpackager just needs to git on my level
19:41.12harlonPackager needs love
19:42.32harlonlest it may start packing instead
20:10.26TorhalMysticalOS: Packager is go.
20:44.53Stanzillahey Torhal let's rewrite the packager in Go
20:44.56Stanzillasee what I did there?
20:45.11TorhalHow about you Go fuck yourself?
20:45.24Ressysnickers
20:45.25Stanzillathat's a excellent suggestion
20:45.37Stanzilla*an
20:45.39Stanzillamaybe
20:46.38pompy~lart mr. torhal
20:46.38purlgets a hotmal account and SPAMs mr. torhal
20:46.58Torhal~emulate Semlar
20:46.58purlACTION tries to calm Stanzilla down.
20:47.04pompylol
22:14.55MysticalOSit has begun! http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/20742964144
22:36.00Stanzillahttp://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/20742864181
22:39.31MysticalOSyeah I know, :)
22:39.58winkwtf
22:40.51nevcairielthey hired a bunch of people for classic game maintenance, or well at least posted job positions to be filled for that
22:41.15nevcairielblizzard takes game support serious, 16 years after release!
22:42.08nevcairield2's biggest problem always has been that its so extremely resolution constrained
22:42.44nevcairiel640x480 (and 800x600 later) just wasnt very high back when the game was new!
23:00.15MysticalOSI've been told this update is a focus on OS X mostly and some windows quirks. and updating installers. they will be focusing on more anti hacks, and maybe even higher resolutions and such later on. as well as getting it into battle.net launcher.
23:01.08MysticalOSimproved graphics is on table but nothing that's been commited to. but considering fans have done it. here's hoping
23:01.43nevcairielthe problem wit hthe resolution was that the viewport was tied to the resolution
23:01.47MysticalOStoday will be first time I could run the game outside of a VM in 8 years though.
23:01.50nevcairielso at 800x600 you saw more of the world
23:02.07nevcairielwhich means simply bumping it has game play implications
23:02.22nevcairielwhich might make this complex
23:02.34MysticalOSyeah, if they do it it'll be upscaling or something.
23:03.07MysticalOSI know they want to do something, just not today sadly.
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23:42.08MegalonA 24-year-old Colombian woman was arrested at Frankfurt airport after she was found to be carrying 1kg (2.2 pounds) of cocaine inside her breasts
23:42.14Megalonhow do you even notice that haha
23:42.39Primerdogs
23:43.12Megalonthe dogs chew on the breasts and taste the cocaine?
23:43.43PrimerYou underestimate a dog's ability to smell said cocaine from a distance
23:44.31Megalonso if i take my dog for a walk we can find cocaine veins?
23:44.32PrimerUnless she actually had the ability to heal from the surgery since the implantation
23:44.37Megalongonna be riiiiiiiiiich =)
23:46.19PhixionAirport officials became suspicious after they found fresh operation scars below the woman’s breasts during a search on 24 February and she complained of severe pain.
23:46.25Phixionfyi
23:46.41Phixionhey Primer you're a weird movie
23:46.44PrimerWell, she shouldn't have complained!
23:46.46Megalonshould have punctured the cocaine bags
23:46.49PrimerI've never seen that movie
23:46.56Megaloni heard that gives quite the painrelieve 8)
23:46.58Phixionseen it twice
23:47.07Phixionand still didnt get it
23:47.08Phixion:D
23:47.16Megaloni watched it twice too
23:47.20PrimerI don't even know what it's about
23:47.27Megaloni think :D
23:47.35Megalonoooooooh, then go watch it
23:47.43Phixionid recommend it, yes
23:47.53Phixionquite a journey
23:48.03Megaloni read an article afterwards
23:48.12Megalonthat tried to explain what's going on
23:48.17Phixioni didnt yet
23:48.25Phixionone more watch :)
23:48.36Megalonhehe
23:48.42Megalonyou gotta keep quite the track
23:48.53Megalonof who is really who =)
23:49.02Phixionshhh
23:49.14Megaloneverything is a spoiler damn
23:49.26Gnarfozbest not to talk about the movie at all :D
23:49.52Megalonyou can watch the man from earth after it :P
23:50.08Phixionfound man from earth boring
23:50.12Phixioncool story tho
23:50.23Megalonnot enough michael bay? :<
23:50.27Megaloni liked it a lot
23:50.41Phixionhad its lengths
23:50.49Phixionbut ye still good movie
23:51.05Phixionseen take shelter?
23:51.20Megalonnope
23:51.24Phixion:|
23:51.28Phixionslow, but kinda cool
23:51.47Phixionone trailer spoils the end
23:51.50Phixionso be careful
23:54.43Phixionhttp://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5157526538
23:54.45Phixionzzz
23:54.55Megalonwtf
23:55.10Megalon:(
23:55.22Phixionpaid hotel premium wifi
23:55.36Phixion6eu/d
23:55.56Phixionshouldve gone for lte package instead

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