IRC log for #wowace on 20160420

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00:13.16Stanzillanebula: opinion on tracer so far?
02:03.57quiescenso.o
03:29.46Ironiimhh, i wrote an addon for mop beta, and since then tooltips have been abit buggy, added OnHyperlinkLeave scripts 10mins ago
03:29.55Ironiibetter late than never i guess..
03:38.59Stanzillagg
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03:45.50Fiskerhey Stanzilla tracer is shit
03:46.06Fiskeralso no nvme until they fix thermals and storage
03:53.00Stanzillaexplain
03:53.56FiskerThe chips get hot because it has literally nothing to dissipate heat so they have to throttle when their workload gets too high
03:54.08FiskerAnd they're only 512GB at the moment
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04:10.33Stanzillaok
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05:03.56Stanzillaupdate 9 of 214 is getting installed
05:04.00Stanzilla3rd time might be the charm
05:36.05quiescenso.o
05:36.21quiescensupdates stanzilla
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08:14.41sbGnarfoz: yes, firetv here
08:53.47Gnarfozsb: are my findings correct, in that you have to switch to english for every single episode of a show you're watching?
08:54.39sbuhm... i have no clue, we use it mainly (>90%) with kodi (media from NAS)
08:54.55Gnarfoz-_-
08:55.12Gnarfozdoes kodi run well, at least? ^^
08:55.26sbyup
08:56.10Gnarfozdoes kodi use something like LAV for decoding or does it rely on the FireTV's hardware decoders?
08:56.20Gnarfozi.e. is it limited to what the hardware it runs on supports?
08:56.43Phixionhey Fisker
08:57.01Phixion> firetv
08:59.48sbGnarfoz: http://kodi.wiki/view/Android_hardware#Common_codecs_currently_without_hardware_decoding_in_Kodi maybe?
09:02.54nevcairielGnarfoz: the hardware isnt very fast to handle non-hardware stuff very well
09:30.17Gnarfoznevcairiel: that's what I thought
09:30.28nevcairielit'll probably try, though
09:30.37Gnarfozand that wiki needs updating, h264 MVC software decoding exists now! ^^
09:30.53nevcairielin kodi?
09:31.09Gnarfozit's more about compatibility than performance for me (or rather, my parents), though, so... meh
09:31.30Gnarfoznevcairiel: I guess not, but I guess they could integrate it, now that it exists at all
09:31.46nevcairielits not open source though, and only available for x86
09:32.04Gnarfozit's not? hm
09:32.20GnarfozI just read the changelog when that happened, how does it work?
09:32.48nevcairieluses intels binary decoder
09:34.34nevcairielspeaking of such things, i've once again been looking into 2016 TVs now that they are starting to become available, but for some reason there is just no perfect model
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09:35.53nevcairielLG has its really good passive 3D support, but they use a subpar IPS panel with bad black levels and low contrast, Samsung has a VA panel with better blacks (although not perfect), but superb contrast and max brightness,  but they canned 3D entirely ... which I would probably be fine with overall, but why can't they just offer it all =p
09:36.13nevcairiel(the samsung also isnt available in DE yet)
09:46.48Gnarfoz¯\_(ツ)_/¯
09:47.08Gnarfozthat reminds me, I need to look into how macros work on this keyboard, so I can have a key for that emoji. :P
09:47.19nevcairielthats not an emoji
09:47.33Gnarfozit's not?
09:47.39Gnarfozand Intel's binary decoder is free to redistribute? 
09:48.38nevcairielemojis are single icons, not compound ascii art
09:49.10Gnarfozkaomoji, apparently
09:49.17nevcairielindeed
09:50.48nevcairieland yes it is
09:53.20Gnarfozthat's nice of Intel
09:54.47nevcairielas long as you dont use it commercially, anyway
10:10.35GnarfozFLEISCHKÄS-TIME
10:10.54Phixionleberkas
10:10.58GnarfozI can smell that shit all the way to my desk, that's annoying :O
10:11.07Gnarfozno, FLÄÄÄÄÄSCH
10:11.15Phixion:O
10:11.19Phixionflash
10:11.22Phixionoohhooo
10:11.31Gnarfozno bavarians here, just Pfälzer and Saarländer ^^
10:12.05Gnarfoz(and various others, but they're not the ones offering the food)
10:12.30Phixionugh saarland
10:12.46PhixionI keep forgetting it exists
10:12.47Gnarfozwell, he's originally from Latvia, if that makes it any better :D
10:12.52Phixion:D
10:13.16Gnarfozalso, I think he's doing it together with the Romanian guy
10:13.23Gnarfozall kinds of weird mixing going on here
10:13.26Phixiongross
10:13.44Gnarfoz"REMINDER: um 12 werd geß!"
10:14.10Gnarfozgood job deciphering that, non-native German coworkers ^^
10:14.38GnarfozDownloading Packages: gitlab-ce-8.6.6-ce.0.el6.x86_64.rpm       559 kB/s | 167 MB     02:26 ETA
10:14.42Gnarfozthis is super fast.
10:15.40nevcairielthats even not all that obvious to germans
10:15.43nevcairieli assume you eat at 12
10:15.56Phixionwird gegessen
10:17.54Gnarfozye, what Phixion said
10:18.31nevcairielat my old job that would've just said "MAHLZEIT!"
10:20.11Phixionan gaudn
10:20.14Phixionguad*
10:21.11nevcairielwhy is it so hard to buy an old version of office from anywhere
10:21.20nevcairieli just need a license for 2010 for debugging purposes =p
10:22.33Gnarfozbecause MS doesn't want you to. http://geizhals.de/?cat=swoff_paket&asuch=office+2010+&bpmax=&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&filter=aktualisieren&plz=&dist=&sort=p&bl1_id=30
10:23.17znfjust pirate it
10:27.27nevcairielGnarfoz: yeah i was looking at some of those shops
10:28.45nevcairielnext task, how do i install 2010 and 2016 side by side without everything breaking
10:28.52nevcairielinterestingly MS has a info page about that
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10:53.47Gnarfozso I just tried upgrading gitlab, and all it did was explode
10:53.49Gnarfoznice
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10:59.16znfoh
10:59.18znfTracer is already in HoTS
11:21.04nevcairielsince last evening
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11:38.16sbnevcairiel: LG TVs are nice, amazon had a great deal some weeks ago
11:38.25nevcairieldeals are for old models =p
11:41.14Kalrothreal men buy the latest OLED curved 2mm thin models!
11:43.17Gnarfozthat's what he's referring to, tbh
11:43.26nevcairielnot oled though
11:43.33nevcairielhost just cost too much
11:43.34sbnevcairiel: still happy
11:43.35Gnarfozoh wait, yeah, you said something about IPS
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11:49.28nevcairielI read a bunch of user reports of the 2016 LGs, and the respone was greatly varying with a somewhat negative baseline tone, the IPS panels are just not perfect for HDR TVs because they are both not true black and dont reach very high brightness, hence low contrast
12:06.19Gnarfozprobably not the best for HDR - do they use "quantum dot" stuff?
12:33.48nevcairielyes
12:44.27nevcairielbut IPS is generally plagued by bad contrast
12:44.44nevcairielits ok for desktop screens because you really dont need more than 1000:1 on a PC screen
12:44.51nevcairielbut for a HDR TV thats another topic
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13:44.47Gnarfozhttp://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Netflix-Ueber-100-Stunden-4K-Video-mit-erhoehtem-Kontrast-bis-August-3178175.html HDR = contrast, did you know?
13:44.57GnarfozI bet the comments on that article are great
14:16.51nevcairieltechnically its not all wrong
14:17.54nevcairielHDR primarily increases the brightness of some features to highlight them more, like lamps, fire, etc, in turn increasing the contrast of those bright highlights to the otherwise dark scene
14:18.18nevcairielbut heise comments are always terrible
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15:28.58nevcairielGnarfoz: http://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/dataCenterNoiseGenerator.php .. so you feel like at work when at home =p
15:49.50Gnarfoznevcairiel: that's great
15:50.15Gnarfozour DC is 30 minutes away these days, but now I can get my fix online!
15:50.40Gnarfoz(or I could go downstairs to our local mini DC, but it's just not the same)
15:54.14pompyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ACQk1Ac3tc
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16:43.16ZeldoYou guys are ridiculous
16:46.48quiescenso.o
16:46.58quiescensgives zeldo a cookie
16:47.44Semlarstop being so ridiculous quiescens
16:47.51quiescens):
16:51.07Torhalridicules Zeldo for saying we're ridiculous.
16:59.22Zeldolol
16:59.39ZeldoI've always wanted a datacenter noise generator
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17:33.38Gnarfozpompy: isn't he either way too tall and skinny or his hair way too short? ^^
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18:03.44pompyshrugs
18:33.15Megalonshrubs
18:42.39GnarfozMegalon: bring me a shrubbery!
18:42.54Gnarfozclearly, I should get one of these just for shits and giggles https://www.sebson.de/e27-led/e27-30w/a-1665/
18:43.04Gnarfoz30 W LED :D
18:43.45Gnarfoz(and that's E27, the big socket, not a tiny E14, even though at first glance it might look like it)
18:43.59nevcairielthe lamp is just giant
18:44.05nevcairielalso, sun
18:44.13Megalonis 30w led a lot?
18:44.18Megaloni have no clue about that stuff
18:44.55Gnarfozyeah, it's in "dumb as shit" territory
18:45.07Megalonoh that's equivalent to a 150w old bulb? :D
18:45.23Gnarfozat least, yeah
18:46.02Gnarfozlol, they also have the opposite end of the scale https://www.sebson.de/gluehlampen/e27-old-inc-g95-40w/a-1896/
18:46.14Gnarfoz40 W for just 100 lm
18:46.44GnarfozI wonder where these hide their electronics, though https://www.sebson.de/design-leds/e14-des-4w/a-1658/
18:46.58Gnarfozhave they miniaturized it far enough to fit it into the screw piece?
18:47.20Gnarfoz(where else would it be, but that just seems... tiny)
19:05.46FiskerGnarfoz
19:06.23GnarfozFisker
19:06.30FiskerWell played
19:06.41GnarfozI'm not certain
19:08.41quiescensgo to sleep
19:09.25FiskerI should
19:12.03GnarfozFisker: Squarespace
19:12.23FiskerNope
19:13.54GnarfozYOU SHOULD
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21:24.34PhatsoGnarfoz you happy now?
21:25.05Gnarfozstill wasn't unhappy before
21:25.05Gnarfoz:D
21:25.18Phatsoyou only wait
21:25.22Phatsoi make you great again
21:25.29Gnarfozno, I don't, I actually reply all the time
21:25.39Gnarfozbut I just realized that I had already linked straight to the docs (and thus, the project) anyway
21:26.00Gnarfozwhich has a nice "repository" tab at the top
21:26.06Phatsoyo nevcairiel/Kaelten
21:30.45ZeldoWhat's up Phatso ?
21:31.14Phatsocan you find out who was responsible for inverting alpha values in AceConfig?
21:31.40GnarfozI still question that AceConfig even has a concept of "alpha values", but maybe I'm just bad at reading docs.
21:32.16Phatsognarfoz its mentioned in the wiki
21:32.26Gnarfozwhere?
21:32.35Gnarfozthe docs aren't on a wiki
21:32.48Phatsohttp://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-config-3-0-options-tables/
21:32.49Gnarfoz(well, they used to be. are you looking at the old old wiki?)
21:32.52Phatsolast part in color
21:32.54Gnarfozok, that's the right place
21:33.49Gnarfozlast part in color? "Custom controls"?
21:33.55Phatso"Getter/setter functions use 4 arguments/returns: r,g,b,a. If hasAlpha is false/nil, alpha will always be set() as 1.0."
21:34.31Gnarfozwell, I guess I can search for that text if you're not willing to link to the appropriate sub-section
21:34.46Phatsoyou cant link to it lol
21:34.58Gnarfozhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-config-3-0-options-tables/#w-color
21:34.59Gnarfozyou can't?
21:35.40PhatsoCTRL+F "alpha" would've been faster
21:35.42nevcairielit returns what it returns, no changing it now, deal with it or dont use it, no point in going around trying to blame people, its nearly 10 years old =p
21:35.45Gnarfozok, so it's a full-fledged colorpicker thing, not just a stand-alone alpha slider
21:35.46Phatsodidnt see the menu at the top
21:36.14Phatsoits a slider inside the colorpicker GUI thats been generated by AceConfig
21:36.26Gnarfozwell, more likely AceGUI or something
21:36.28nevcairielthe colorpicker is a blizzard component
21:36.54Gnarfozthe base blizz colorpicker has an alpha slider?
21:36.55Phatsowell yeah
21:37.01nevcairielGnarfoz: yes
21:37.05GnarfozTIL
21:37.14nevcairielhttp://wow.gamepedia.com/Using_the_ColorPickerFrame
21:38.31Phatsoso the fact that if you slide the slider to 100 it returns 0 is a blizzard issue?
21:38.42znfmaybe, yes, no
21:38.43znfprobabl\
21:38.46znfprobably
21:38.52Phatsoand 1.0 if the slider is at 0
21:39.12Phatsohttp://crimebodge.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/policenotebook.jpg
21:39.21Phatsoim gonna arrest the person responsible
21:40.30nevcairielmaybe the blizzard slider once had it inverted and something tried to compensate, then years ago it was fixed in the blizzard thing and noonce noticed, and now its inverted again, point is, changing it now would change the interpretation of the values, which would break the API, so not going to happen =p
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21:41.12PhatsoSemlar's fault
21:41.33Phatsohe knew i traced him down
21:41.34Gnarfozisn't everything?
21:41.35Phatsoso he left
21:41.36Endum whoa there are plenty of legitimate insane things to blame Semlar for
21:41.42Endno need to pin this on him
21:43.54Gnarfozsvn blame AceGUIWidget-ColorPicker.lua line 59, I guess
21:46.54Phatsoi see it
21:50.12Phatsohttp://i.imgur.com/L82iKju.png
21:50.18Phatsokill it with fire :D
21:50.41Gnarfozthat font looks terrible even without magnification
21:51.32silentiumsomeone didn't use notepad++'s zoom feature ;)
21:57.59Phatsoit was my point to make it look crappy
21:58.01Phatsoi was meming
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23:21.41Stanzillawtf did you do to that font
23:55.49StanzillaTorhal: 'http://stele.curse.us/scripts/CurseForge%20Old%20Stack%20Helper.user.js'
23:55.51StanzillaSPACES?!
23:56.17TorhalStanzilla: Blame Zeldo - he started it.

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