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| 05:14.17 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:15.41 | MysticalOS | A rare spawn, why didn't my Silverdragon go off? |
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| 06:26.00 | nevcairiel | meh wow is broke |
| 06:27.18 | Stanzilla | give it some money |
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| 07:23.40 | nevcairiel | wee it fixed itself by taking a shower =p |
| 07:33.46 | Repo | fzxc: 03Fylwind 07master * 2.0.2-3-g1b02738 (4 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 07:33.46 | Repo | 1b02738: Bump LICENSE year to 2016 |
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| 07:42.56 | Torhal | stabs znf with Minecraft. |
| 07:43.12 | Repo | fzxc: 03Fylwind 042.0.4 * 75c2083 /: [new tag] Bugfixes for breaking changes in WoW 6.2 |
| 07:43.22 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 07:50.02 | Trela | BELETED. |
| 07:50.22 | Torhal | I always thought it was BALETED. |
| 07:50.26 | Torhal | :/ |
| 07:50.45 | Torhal | Er, BALEETED. |
| 07:51.13 | Trela | It has been ten years? *Shrugs.* |
| 07:51.16 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 08:51.45 | Gnarfoz | neato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nme8T2yLhL0 |
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| 10:58.47 | Phixion | Gnarfoz: :o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjA0aee07k |
| 11:00.33 | Gnarfoz | Phixion: yeah, not as uncommon as one would think. :D |
| 11:00.45 | Gnarfoz | considering there's an established English term for those (suicide shower) |
| 11:03.47 | Semlar | what |
| 11:06.35 | nebula | first time hearing that term |
| 11:07.45 | Gnarfoz | well, sure, same for me, but I'd have expected "crazy weird shower thing", if there wasn't this one already established, apparently ^^ |
| 11:08.12 | Gnarfoz | Google even shows their fancy definition box if you put in just "suicide shower" |
| 11:08.57 | Semlar | what if i'm looking for results on how best to kill myself in my shower |
| 11:09.09 | Semlar | i don't appreciate google making assumptions like that |
| 11:09.57 | Semlar | i've had to start going to search tools > verbatim to get google to stop removing half of my search terms from my searches |
| 11:10.04 | nebula | lol |
| 11:30.15 | Phixion | Gnarfoz: no fancy definition box for me |
| 11:30.36 | Phixion | :( |
| 11:31.09 | Megalon | lol |
| 11:31.52 | Phixion | I have the perfect brithdayy gift for you now tho |
| 11:32.23 | Semlar | i don't understand how node.js became popular, this is incredibly infuriating to work with |
| 11:32.55 | Semlar | everything is asynchronous so whenever you want to do something you have to make a million nested callback functions |
| 11:33.04 | Kalroth | how can you be talking to an elephant on a banana |
| 11:33.12 | nebula | there are usually a Sync variate of functions |
| 11:33.49 | nebula | but yes, js is general is usually callbacky |
| 11:34.12 | Semlar | i've worked with asynco in python and it's not half this annoying |
| 11:34.16 | Semlar | asyncio |
| 11:34.29 | Kalroth | async best sync |
| 11:34.58 | Semlar | maybe it's just because i'm not used to writing async stuff |
| 11:35.34 | quiescens | nerf semlar |
| 11:36.00 | Semlar | well it also doesn't help that it's javascript and javascript itself has some insane quirks that i forgot about |
| 11:36.20 | End | now you've done it quiescens. you've invoked a giant foam mushroom |
| 11:36.23 | Torhal | adds a callback to Semlar for invoking Amarande. |
| 11:36.30 | nebula | use coffeescript or ts and compile it into js |
| 11:36.31 | Semlar | dies |
| 11:37.11 | Semlar | that sounds like a slippery slope |
| 11:37.37 | Semlar | is there something i can compile into coffeescript |
| 11:38.07 | Torhal | You're a weird one. |
| 11:39.10 | nebula | there's icedcoffeescript, coco, or livescript, or uberscript, toffeescript, caffeine |
| 11:39.31 | nebula | those are all supersets of coffeescript :D |
| 11:40.54 | Torhal | Clearly, we need to design Semlarscript. |
| 11:41.19 | nebula | random outputs mushrooms then stops working? |
| 11:41.23 | nebula | randomly* |
| 11:43.47 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.44 | Semlar | and i'm not sure how you're supposed to write this |
| 11:46.30 | nevcairiel | you probably want d in pairs(data)? |
| 11:47.06 | nevcairiel | or wait this isnt lua |
| 11:47.14 | Semlar | no the for loop works fine, but inside the readFile function "fileName" is always the last item in the for loop or something |
| 11:48.57 | Semlar | i don't know how you're supposed to (properly) pass values to the callback function |
| 11:49.25 | Semlar | i can think of several not-great ways to do it |
| 11:49.31 | nebula | luaFiles[ fileName.replace(/_/g, '/') ] = fs.readFileSync('./lua/' + fileName) :p |
| 11:50.01 | Semlar | well okay but what if you want it to be nonblocking |
| 11:50.12 | nevcairiel | oh right you probably tried to use the filename thing just like a lua upvalue would work, but thats not how that thing works |
| 11:50.17 | nebula | oh sorry, was there some other processing you wanted to do in the meantime? |
| 11:51.17 | nebula | unless you want to define the callback before calling it, probably what you should do |
| 11:51.25 | Semlar | for this example it doesn't really matter that much |
| 11:51.31 | Semlar | but i'd still like to know how to do it |
| 11:52.48 | Infus | Semlar: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10095404/understanding-variable-capture-by-closures-in-javascript-node |
| 11:55.02 | Infus | actually https://stackoverflow.com/questions/750486/javascript-closure-inside-loops-simple-practical-example is probably a better link |
| 11:57.53 | quiescens | just put curly braces around everything |
| 11:58.06 | Torhal | puts curly braces around quiescens. |
| 11:58.08 | quiescens | dies. |
| 11:58.12 | Infus | well if js would be a sane language, then scopes might help |
| 11:58.18 | Infus | it isn't though |
| 11:58.35 | nebula | function scope is good enough! |
| 11:58.42 | Torhal | If you use TypeScript instead, and use things like let instead of var, that helps. |
| 11:59.02 | Torhal | scopes quiescens to cookie. |
| 12:02.11 | Semlar | i was doing something earlier that involved converting strings to numbers and that's when i found out "typeof NaN == 'number'" |
| 12:02.22 | Semlar | that's when i knew me and javascript weren't going to get along |
| 12:02.28 | nebula | === all the things |
| 12:02.36 | Semlar | NaN literally stands for not a number |
| 12:03.13 | quiescens | semlar is a number o.o |
| 12:03.25 | Semlar | IT'S NOT OKAY FOR IT TO HAVE NUMBER AS A TYPE |
| 12:03.35 | Torhal | enumerates Semlar. |
| 12:03.36 | nevcairiel | while NaN is "not a number", its still a number type =p |
| 12:04.04 | Semlar | you have to explicitly call isNaN() or something on it |
| 12:04.08 | nevcairiel | strongly typed languages dont go around changing the type just because the result of a computation is NaN, a float remains a float |
| 12:04.24 | nevcairiel | so i wouldnt expect crappy typed languages to do it either :p |
| 12:04.35 | Kalroth | http://wtfjs.com/ :) |
| 12:04.39 | Semlar | can i just replace javascript with lua |
| 12:04.49 | Kalroth | i love some of the tests |
| 12:04.57 | nevcairiel | same result though, nan is still a number in lua |
| 12:05.01 | Torhal | encapsulates Semlar in NaN. |
| 12:05.09 | nevcairiel | NaN is the value, not the type =p |
| 12:05.22 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.22 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.27 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: the first thing about regex seems just dumb from the author |
| 12:06.28 | Torhal | Semlar: destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat |
| 12:06.30 | Semlar | in lua you can add a string to a number |
| 12:06.36 | nebula | yea |
| 12:06.52 | Semlar | but in javascript you can't do that because string concatenation and addition are the same operation |
| 12:07.00 | nevcairiel | character ranges are not magical, its literally a range, its not the languages fault that he doesnt have any clue whats inside the range he specified |
| 12:07.46 | nevcairiel | the real weird things are the implicit type conversions in JS |
| 12:08.11 | Kalroth | truthy and falsy |
| 12:09.48 | nebula | "" + number + string, duh |
| 12:10.17 | nevcairiel | thats a common crutch people use |
| 12:10.18 | nevcairiel | so ugly |
| 12:10.37 | nebula | and +string + number for the other way |
| 12:11.04 | nebula | or you can just cast everything to what you want |
| 12:15.09 | Semlar | alright so i fixed it by wrapping the contents of the for loop in its own function |
| 12:16.42 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.21 | nebula | could just wrap the readFile call passing the filename |
| 12:20.09 | quiescens | o.o |
| 12:20.23 | quiescens | why are you breaking everything semlar |
| 12:20.28 | Semlar | i didn't do nuffin |
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| 13:20.40 | Gnarfoz | go home Samsung, you're drunk http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/71357/1/ |
| 13:22.31 | Ressy | lmao.. wow |
| 13:22.42 | nevcairiel | what, did you think those cases are full of drive? |
| 13:23.09 | Gnarfoz | no, of course not, but it's just getting crazier and crazier ^^ |
| 13:23.10 | nevcairiel | how do you think they can fit everything on msata or m2 :) |
| 13:23.28 | Fisker | Not to mention that the big drives are like 4TB now |
| 13:23.32 | Fisker | Same footprint |
| 13:23.41 | Ressy | If they're that tiny, might as well go with an M2 |
| 13:24.11 | nevcairiel | m2 is better anyway, assuming your mobo has as slot |
| 13:24.17 | Gnarfoz | I think outer dimensions are the last factor I'd consider in the choice of M.2 vs. SATA |
| 13:24.33 | Gnarfoz | nvme and such |
| 13:25.11 | nevcairiel | although they need to find a solution for heat dissipation on those tiny ssds |
| 13:25.34 | nevcairiel | mine sits right in front of the cpu fan, so its not as much of a problem since its under constant airflow |
| 13:25.54 | nevcairiel | but if its flat on the board right next to the gpu |
| 13:25.56 | nevcairiel | might nto see as much |
| 13:26.14 | Ressy | No price difference between Samsung 850 250gb ssd vs m2 |
| 13:26.33 | Fisker | I'd rather have it keep the 2.5" form factor if I could still get nvme |
| 13:26.38 | Kalroth | yeah, my 950 pro 250GB is smaller than that print |
| 13:26.58 | nevcairiel | Fisker: intel had a cable solution for that called U.2 i think |
| 13:27.09 | Fisker | Yeah I know |
| 13:27.51 | Gnarfoz | SATA Express is just stillborn at this point, is it? |
| 13:27.55 | nevcairiel | didnt seem to take off though |
| 13:28.06 | nevcairiel | some manufacturers produce adapters for M.2 -> U.2 |
| 13:28.14 | nevcairiel | but intel seems to remain the only to produce a ssd using it |
| 13:28.46 | Ressy | m2 on my board is right above the gpu, below the cpu. But I'm running a h100i on my cpu. Tons of fans in my case though.. |
| 13:28.48 | nevcairiel | but yes Gnarfoz, sata express is mostly dead |
| 13:29.13 | nevcairiel | just like msata which was quickly replaced by m2 |
| 13:29.42 | Kalroth | http://www.addonics.com/products/ad2m2s-px4.php gotta run them nvmes in raid 0 |
| 13:29.43 | Fisker | Dissipating heat is kind of hard when they're just chips being blown on |
| 13:30.41 | Kalroth | throttling isn't that big an issue anyways |
| 13:31.05 | nevcairiel | Fisker: better then not giving them airflow at all |
| 13:31.07 | Ressy | If your cooling doesn't fail anyways. |
| 13:31.10 | Fisker | I don't like things that are not that big of an issue you'll |
| 13:31.21 | Ressy | h100i failed, and cpu throttled to .8ghz from 4.4 |
| 13:31.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah, we've heard that story |
| 13:31.30 | Ressy | :P |
| 13:31.32 | Kalroth | http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Samsung-950-PRO-256GB-and-512GB-M2-NVMe-PCIe-SSD-Review/Thermal-Throttling-Conclusio |
| 13:31.32 | nevcairiel | i could glue some spreaders on them |
| 13:31.33 | Kalroth | "you would have to write nearly 150GB at over 1.5GB/sec to get a 950 PRO to warm up enough to throttle, and when it does, the throttling is very minor, dropping to only 1.2GB/sec intermittently." |
| 13:31.42 | Kalroth | "The slightest airflow prevents this from happening at all" |
| 13:32.04 | Fisker | Transfers aren't an issue Kalroth |
| 13:32.09 | Gnarfoz | I've always wanted to have some of that fancy thermal glue |
| 13:32.11 | Fisker | Random I/O is |
| 13:32.11 | Megalon | i solve this by regularly farting in the general direction of my ssd |
| 13:32.22 | Gnarfoz | or self-adhesive thermal pads |
| 13:32.34 | Kalroth | it also takes a lot of random i/o to get it throttling, Fisker |
| 13:32.43 | nevcairiel | i thought about getting some of those pads to glue onto my GPUs ram chips that go uncooled |
| 13:32.49 | nevcairiel | but it seems to do fine so shrug |
| 13:32.58 | Kalroth | i want to watercool it |
| 13:33.08 | Fisker | Me too |
| 13:33.34 | Fisker | But I still don't want to use M.2 for the sake of using M.2 |
| 13:33.34 | Kalroth | put a dual 140mm radiator on it |
| 13:33.46 | Kalroth | overclock the shit out of out |
| 13:33.56 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: really? are they supposed to be cooled, or are they intentionally left free |
| 13:34.19 | Kalroth | nevcairiel, http://imgur.com/a/wJJAt like this, yes |
| 13:34.20 | Gnarfoz | most highend cards seem to come with the thermal pads |
| 13:34.30 | nevcairiel | speaking of cooling, first time I purchased premium thermal gel just last week |
| 13:34.47 | Gnarfoz | which one? |
| 13:34.52 | Ressy | Thats different. |
| 13:34.53 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth: they're RAMsinks |
| 13:34.57 | Kalroth | sure |
| 13:34.59 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: what is? |
| 13:35.01 | nevcairiel | the diamond one linus keeps advertising |
| 13:35.02 | Fisker | Gel nevcairiel ? |
| 13:35.05 | Gnarfoz | ah, ic diamond |
| 13:35.11 | Ressy | Kalroth's picture. |
| 13:35.23 | Gnarfoz | how is that "something different" than what he said it would be? |
| 13:35.30 | Kalroth | gotta cool that nvme |
| 13:35.31 | Ressy | I hadn't seen those before. |
| 13:35.50 | Fisker | Nvme is a protocol please Kalroth |
| 13:35.57 | Kalroth | Fisker, cool it, bra |
| 13:36.02 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: and you would think so, but no http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/geforce-gtx-titanx-back.jpg |
| 13:36.05 | Kalroth | i remember using those sinks on northbridge chips |
| 13:36.11 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth: if I use them, will I have to download more ram periodically? |
| 13:36.12 | Fisker | nevcairiel did you hear about that 43" 4k monitor? |
| 13:36.24 | Gnarfoz | considering they're ramsinks and thus absorb... ram? |
| 13:36.30 | nevcairiel | Fisker: did you know they have 80" 4K monitors? they call them TVs |
| 13:36.33 | Kalroth | Gnarfoz, you get more ram with every update of windows 10 |
| 13:36.33 | Fisker | Why don't they have a backplate nevcairiel ? |
| 13:36.42 | Fisker | wow nevcairiel |
| 13:36.44 | Fisker | Rude |
| 13:36.50 | Fisker | This is a fucking monitor not a TV |
| 13:36.50 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth: that's right, they can just increase the compression factor |
| 13:36.57 | Kalroth | [x] rekt [ ] not rekt |
| 13:37.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh, on the back. you have too much vram. :D |
| 13:37.19 | nevcairiel | Fisker: presumably no backplate just because of those ram chips, so they get airflow |
| 13:37.35 | Kalroth | have you preordered the 1080 ti yet, nevcairiel |
| 13:37.42 | nevcairiel | i would if i could |
| 13:37.46 | Fisker | Me 2 |
| 13:37.50 | Kalroth | me 3 |
| 13:37.57 | Megalon | me for |
| 13:38.12 | Gnarfoz | me for someone else |
| 13:38.17 | Kalroth | it'll be great with directx 12 when i can run all my old graphiccards in the same box |
| 13:38.54 | Megalon | anyone needs some snow? |
| 13:38.58 | Megalon | got about 5cm by now |
| 13:38.59 | Kalroth | gtx 1080 and r9 290 and 6970 and geforce4 ti 4200 |
| 13:39.01 | Megalon | ;/ |
| 13:39.22 | Kalroth | Megalon, are you offering some of your inches |
| 13:40.11 | Megalon | http://i.imgur.com/g1L6cho.jpg that's from earlier today :P |
| 13:40.23 | Megalon | and it did not stop snowing :C |
| 13:40.28 | Gnarfoz | lolaustria |
| 13:40.37 | Gnarfoz | it's just cold and wet and ugly here |
| 13:40.50 | Torhal | Lolaustria almost seems like a legit name. |
| 13:41.04 | Megalon | there is lower austria |
| 13:41.05 | Gnarfoz | not cold enough for snow, not warm enough for it being nice outside |
| 13:41.06 | quiescens | harsh |
| 13:41.12 | Gnarfoz | Lowlaustria |
| 13:41.37 | Megalon | as long as it doesn't snow for 2weeks :P |
| 13:44.14 | Kalroth | dont you live in the mountains, Megalon |
| 13:44.25 | Gnarfoz | ...IN THE MOUNTAINS |
| 13:44.35 | Kalroth | isn't there snow all the time up there |
| 13:44.43 | Kalroth | altitude 6km+ |
| 13:44.49 | Gnarfoz | lol 6 km |
| 13:45.02 | Megalon | villach is 750m |
| 13:45.14 | Gnarfoz | there isn't even anything above 4 km in Austria |
| 13:45.25 | Gnarfoz | it's Lowlaustria |
| 13:45.27 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 13:45.53 | Megalon | haha says the flachlandtiroler |
| 13:46.03 | Gnarfoz | u wot m8 |
| 13:46.09 | Gnarfoz | isn't Tirol on the other side |
| 13:46.09 | Kalroth | nonsense, there's like mont blanc and shkhara and telnuldi |
| 13:46.17 | Megalon | you are a flachlantiroler |
| 13:46.19 | Megalon | +d :< |
| 13:46.21 | Gnarfoz | mont blanc... in Austria? |
| 13:46.31 | Megalon | we only have vino blanco |
| 13:46.31 | Kalroth | pretty close! |
| 13:46.55 | Kalroth | highest point in Denmark is Møllehøj at 171 meters .. |
| 13:46.59 | Gnarfoz | Tirol is not close to me |
| 13:47.10 | Kalroth | it's apparently GroÃglockner in austria |
| 13:47.14 | Kalroth | whatever that is |
| 13:47.18 | Gnarfoz | you need to find some Swiss derogative for me, or French :P |
| 13:47.41 | Megalon | you are a french swissian? |
| 13:47.49 | Kalroth | ick |
| 13:47.51 | Megalon | that's derogative enough on its own |
| 13:47.56 | Kalroth | that's like worst of worse |
| 13:48.52 | Gnarfoz | Kalroth: it's this http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00169JL3Q |
| 13:49.04 | Kalroth | ooh okay |
| 13:49.12 | Kalroth | that's a tall cpu cooler then |
| 13:49.16 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: I'm neither, of course, but both .ch and .fr are closer to me than .at or "Flachlandtirol" ^^ |
| 13:49.42 | Gnarfoz | the CPU cooler name is just a genius play on words, IMHO |
| 13:50.01 | Gnarfoz | all their other coolers have mountain names, too, but this one takes the cake |
| 13:50.04 | Megalon | i was in north lower austria like a week ago |
| 13:50.07 | Gnarfoz | too bad it's an old discontinued one |
| 13:50.13 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: Munich? |
| 13:50.25 | Megalon | no sankt blödsinn äh pölten :P |
| 13:50.37 | Megalon | interesting what they call mountain up there ^^ |
| 13:51.07 | Megalon | and the distance you see haha |
| 13:51.16 | Megalon | burgenland is even weirder, it's just flat |
| 13:51.20 | Megalon | like 2d flat |
| 14:01.48 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/fDAoMw8.png |
| 14:02.56 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 14:03.22 | Kalroth | :D |
| 14:05.10 | Phixion | lol Gnarfoz |
| 14:06.15 | Fisker | Hipsters |
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| 14:12.36 | Phixion | hey Fisker |
| 14:12.52 | Phixion | e |
| 14:12.52 | Phixion | y |
| 14:12.55 | Fisker | hey Phixion |
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| 14:23.08 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: is there a mod to turn my Fritz!Box into a FritzlBox? |
| 14:23.18 | Megalon | do you have a cellar? |
| 14:23.40 | Megalon | preferably with bunker doors |
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| 14:24.21 | Megalon | also you have to connect everything by wire, because FritzlBox are known to not let any signal escape |
| 14:24.26 | Megalon | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 14:28.02 | Megalon | http://www.wcvb.com/news/snapchat-speed-filter-blamed-for-107-mph-highway-accident/39222790 |
| 14:28.07 | Megalon | lol |
| 14:28.51 | nevcairiel | Megalon: he has a traumatic brain injury, and they take him seriously? =P |
| 14:31.10 | Megalon | going 110mph+ in a 55mph zone |
| 14:32.04 | Megalon | nice one |
| 14:32.51 | quiescens | can they also sue carmakers for having speedometers and for making cars that can drive so fast? |
| 14:35.17 | Megalon | a pity that all those safety features also help keeping the idiots alive :/ |
| 15:01.24 | Fisker | http://images.philips.com/is/image/PhilipsConsumer/BDM4350UC_00-MI1-global-001?$jpglarge$&wid=1250 look at it nevcairiel |
| 15:01.28 | Fisker | L o o k a t i t |
| 15:01.38 | nevcairiel | i dont get it |
| 15:01.39 | nevcairiel | why |
| 15:01.51 | Fisker | Because it's possible |
| 15:03.12 | Gnarfoz | probably the aforementioned big ass monitor |
| 15:03.16 | Megalon | why is the stand su much out of center |
| 15:03.36 | Megalon | and how deformed is that guy pointing at it |
| 15:04.25 | Fisker | http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/BDM4350UC_00/brilliance-4k-ultra-hd-lcd-display |
| 15:04.28 | Fisker | and it is Gnarfoz |
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| 15:41.11 | Fisker | Wat Stanzilla |
| 15:41.31 | Fisker | Guy on reddit says android pay is working in Germany now |
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| 16:19.51 | Megalon | damn, you can snow all you want but plx leave my internetz alive, thx |
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| 17:18.00 | pompy | anyone that uses LastPass ... https://blog.malwarebytes.org/cybercrime/2016/04/fake-lastpass-extension-exposes-users-to-ads-and-installs/ |
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| 17:50.45 | Ressy | Thats a fake Lastpass. |
| 17:52.49 | Megalon | multipass! |
| 17:53.19 | quiescens | moo |
| 18:11.01 | pompy | .... |
| 18:12.33 | Megalon | i see you got a point, pompy |
| 18:15.23 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
| 18:15.23 | purl | shoves a crumpet down Torhal's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 18:15.27 | pompy | :D |
| 18:36.44 | Funkeh` | anyone remember the url of that website where you typed in your email address and it told you if it was in one of the hacxked/dumped databases from various sites? |
| 18:37.54 | nevcairiel | https://haveibeenpwned.com/ ? |
| 18:38.17 | Funkeh` | yeah, thanks |
| 18:40.01 | Funkeh` | don't think it has this so called spotify breach |
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| 18:45.40 | Ressy | The spotify breach hasn't been even confirmed by spotify. |
| 18:45.44 | Ressy | They're ignoring it |
| 18:56.19 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/04/27/evleaks-says-htc-is-building-two-nexuses-m1-and-s1-and-we-think-theyre-codenamed-marlin-and-sailfish/ |
| 18:56.44 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 18:58.56 | Fisker | Yay indeed |
| 19:01.26 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/5996843 |
| 19:02.00 | Fisker | What about it? |
| 19:02.06 | Stanzilla | look at mainboard name |
| 19:03.33 | Fisker | And it's running a Qualcomm 830? |
| 19:03.37 | Fisker | Neat |
| 19:06.31 | Phixion | you're neat |
| 19:07.01 | Fisker | No u |
| 19:07.05 | Fisker | ð |
| 19:07.49 | Stanzilla | 4gb räm |
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| 19:08.43 | Fisker | Yes |
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| 19:51.18 | pompy | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3561995/Police-investigating-possible-suicide-Apple-s-headquarters.html |
| 19:51.50 | Megalon | appel's headquarter commited suicide? |
| 19:51.54 | Megalon | apple |
| 19:52.29 | pompy | apparently after that stock drop |
| 20:04.42 | Funkeh` | wtf |
| 20:04.46 | Funkeh` | you linked the daily mail? |
| 20:04.49 | Funkeh` | you ok? |
| 20:05.10 | Stanzilla | http://www.kcci.com/news/kcci-meteorologist-gets-upgrade-surprise-on-live-tv/39240636 |
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| 20:19.40 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 20:43.40 | Gnarfoz | did someone ever answer the question why the new Curse (...Curse? Not Curse Voice, Curse Client, just "Curse"?) basically seems to be a Discord clone? ^^ |
| 20:44.22 | Gnarfoz | also why is it a website. UGH |
| 20:44.30 | Zeldo | It's Curse or CurseApp |
| 20:44.37 | Zeldo | and its way different then a discord clone :P |
| 20:45.10 | Gnarfoz | considering the timeline of things, maybe Discord was created by ex Curse people who were fed up with how long things seem to take Curse :P |
| 20:45.45 | Zeldo | We rewrote the client so that we can support more users :P |
| 20:45.46 | Gnarfoz | why has my Quassel decided to only show a "resize up/down" cursor now. what. |
| 20:45.54 | Gnarfoz | u wot m8? |
| 20:46.03 | Gnarfoz | how is a new thing a rewrite of anything |
| 20:47.42 | Stanzilla | you missed one iteration of the client, Gnarfoz |
| 20:47.51 | Stanzilla | it was a c# app before |
| 20:47.56 | Gnarfoz | I did? they released something between Curse CLient 5 and this? |
| 20:48.05 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:48.21 | Gnarfoz | I thought it was all alpha versions between then and now |
| 20:48.35 | Gethe | it even had wow addon support in the alpha version |
| 20:48.37 | Stanzilla | beta but yes |
| 20:48.47 | Gnarfoz | so they released nothing between then and now |
| 20:48.56 | Stanzilla | nothing non-beta |
| 20:49.01 | Gnarfoz | dude |
| 20:49.02 | Gnarfoz | "release" |
| 20:49.07 | Gnarfoz | is a pretty straight-forward term :P |
| 20:49.13 | Stanzilla | beta is just a buzzword nowadays |
| 20:49.56 | Gnarfoz | well, in any case, congrats on the release, I guess, Zeldo |
| 20:50.24 | Gnarfoz | please someone keep me in the loop when it becomes a replacement for CC |
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| 21:36.45 | pompy | Funkeh`: all the other links were meh .. ;) |
| 21:37.13 | pompy | http://www.hotforsecurity.com/blog/7-million-minecraft-pocket-edition-players-put-at-risk-after-lifeboat-hack-13805.html |
| 21:40.55 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz no, that's not who made Discord. |
| 21:41.47 | Gnarfoz | any other reason why it looks like a CC (HA! hahaha. dat pun.) of it? ^^ |
| 21:42.17 | Gnarfoz | (besides "chance") |
| 21:45.30 | Kaelten | it's a lot more complicated than that. What I can promise you is that we didn't just pull out a copy machine and say go to work. |
| 21:45.55 | Kaelten | chat platforms have existed a long time |
| 21:46.25 | Kaelten | if you look at many modern IRC clients they follow a very similar multi column layout, that was then built on by companies like Slack to create something new and unique |
| 21:46.56 | Kaelten | many of those same inspirations have led to many other remixes of ideas with everyone (hopefully) trying to do their own take on what they view to be the best combination. |
| 21:49.51 | Gnarfoz | did you visit a marketing speak seminar lately? |
| 21:49.54 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 21:50.04 | Kaelten | lol no |
| 21:50.25 | Kaelten | I've just done a lot of thinking about how ideas come about and grow over time in the last few years |
| 21:50.39 | Gnarfoz | I was just asking a half-serious question because they look almost identical at first glance |
| 21:58.25 | wink | I didn't start a Curse client since 2014 |
| 21:58.29 | wink | slowly backs off |
| 21:58.45 | Kaelten | *nods* take a look at an active slack client, or at Textual or Colloquy, even WeChat or similar have a lot in common at first glance. |
| 21:59.03 | Gnarfoz | good thing Slack is cancer. :P |
| 21:59.25 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:59.47 | Gnarfoz | anyway, WoWers are not the target audience anyway, considering we've had established voice comms for a decade already, and the new thing doesn't deal with addons (...yet, I hear) |
| 22:00.17 | Gnarfoz | seems more suited to non-permanent groups |
| 22:00.44 | Gnarfoz | (not that something of this style couldn't replace something like a TS server, just saying it probably won't) |
| 22:01.06 | Kaelten | addons will be merged in over the next few months |
| 22:01.12 | Kaelten | and at the same time get a long over due update to features |
| 22:01.22 | Gnarfoz | we'll... have to take your word for it |
| 22:01.30 | Gnarfoz | :> <3 |
| 22:01.41 | Kaelten | of course, it's been long over due with much fuss and promise and not much deliver |
| 22:01.43 | Kaelten | I get it |
| 22:01.55 | Gnarfoz | never mind, the good thing is: CC 5 still works. |
| 22:02.07 | Kaelten | servers provide a pretty good permanent home and a good TS replacement, but without a lot of the management overhead, cost, and security issues of those types of solutions too |
| 22:02.19 | Gnarfoz | I bet people (mostly the kind NOT in this channel) would be a lot less happy if CC5 suddenly died and there was no replacement |
| 22:02.21 | Kaelten | even the old CCv4 for mac still works ;) |
| 22:02.26 | Gnarfoz | (don't even get me started on Minion) |
| 22:02.55 | Kaelten | oh we're not going to leave people without a working solution |
| 22:05.04 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: WoW communities are pretty huge on discord |
| 22:05.10 | Stanzilla | so it IS an audience for that |
| 22:05.14 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: stop raining on my parade |
| 22:05.17 | Stanzilla | NOPE |
| 22:05.25 | Gnarfoz | PARADES, STRONGLY |
| 22:05.47 | Gnarfoz | well, at least at the Twitch/WoW intersection there's going to be users, I imagine. ^^ |
| 22:05.55 | Megalon | hands *foz his kreuz and his haken |
| 22:06.06 | Stanzilla | yeah many streamers use it |
| 22:06.18 | Stanzilla | but curse started paying streamers to use Curse app now :D |
| 22:06.20 | Megalon | is that how the catch grills? |
| 22:06.45 | Stanzilla | (which is totally fine, dont get me wrong) |
| 22:06.52 | Stanzilla | it's good marketing/sponsorship |
| 22:07.52 | Gnarfoz | sounds like a sound plan to get more people to use your sound app... voice app. :p |
| 22:09.55 | Kaelten | just the app :) |
| 22:10.46 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 22:14.45 | Megalon | s/app/tip/ |
| 22:14.49 | Megalon | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
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| 22:17.11 | Gnarfoz | should have called the app "D" |
| 22:17.16 | Gnarfoz | for obvious jokes |
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| 22:18.22 | Megalon | that joke literally killed my connection, thx *foz! |
| 22:18.50 | Gnarfoz | fear my power |
| 22:19.07 | Megalon | nintendo power? |
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| 22:48.04 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: prepare me |
| 22:48.15 | Stanzilla | what for |
| 22:48.34 | Gnarfoz | will I get a just another website wrapped in standalone Chrome if I "download our app"? |
| 22:49.09 | Stanzilla | Curse app? |
| 22:49.10 | Stanzilla | then yes |
| 22:49.14 | Gnarfoz | fucking 2016, I don't want to live on this planet anymore. |
| 22:49.32 | Kaelten | not exactly |
| 22:49.38 | Stanzilla | it is not a wrapper |
| 22:49.51 | Stanzilla | it is an electron shell |
| 22:49.55 | Kaelten | the desktop app has more functionality than the web app |
| 22:49.57 | Gnarfoz | is that not what that is? |
| 22:49.59 | Stanzilla | which is chrome + v8 + node |
| 22:50.08 | Gnarfoz | it even includes node? get the fuck out |
| 22:50.23 | Stanzilla | it is compiled!!11 |
| 22:50.24 | Stanzilla | and packed! |
| 22:50.25 | Kaelten | better voice handling, mods for MC (and eventually other nodes), and a few other things. |
| 22:50.27 | Gnarfoz | it's like there's a secret police out there hunting down people who make regular programs |
| 22:50.47 | Megalon | those guys all work for piped piper |
| 22:50.52 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: is all that extra stuff also just JS garbage? |
| 22:50.58 | Kaelten | no |
| 22:51.02 | Kaelten | C# |
| 22:51.03 | Stanzilla | its just way easier to do cross platform compat this way |
| 22:51.17 | Gnarfoz | nice, C# warms my heart in comparison |
| 22:51.18 | Kaelten | yeah cross platform UIs are very hard... really hamstrung our mac efforts for a while. |
| 22:51.33 | Gnarfoz | solution: just make separate programs! :O |
| 22:51.33 | Kaelten | now mac is in parity for communications |
| 22:51.55 | Kaelten | that has a lot of other problems, we tried that route too |
| 22:51.59 | Kaelten | you end up with apps that are drastically different on one platform or the other |
| 22:51.59 | Stanzilla | then it becomes a manpower problem, Gnarfoz |
| 22:52.22 | Stanzilla | and that Kaelten said |
| 22:52.51 | Gnarfoz | well, I'm sure there's a way that still results in native programs that are not just "website in a taco shell" like so many things are today |
| 22:52.55 | Kaelten | yeah keeping them in sync would result in > 2x the effort if you did native on each platform |
| 22:52.57 | Kaelten | and each new platform has a > 1x cost multipple |
| 22:54.36 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: Slack inside of Franz is marginally less of a memory leaking whore than Slack's own "app", btw |
| 22:54.48 | Gnarfoz | (I think I mentioned that's why I would try out Franz) |
| 22:55.39 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how that is, considering both are these standalone Chrome contraptions |
| 22:56.06 | Gnarfoz | (and Slack's website directly in Chrome is just as bad as the Slack "app") |
| 22:56.47 | End | slack has gotten kinda ridiculous |
| 22:57.11 | End | the slack app uses about a gigabyte of ram on my machine at work |
| 22:57.35 | Gnarfoz | I was only up to 600 MiB, so far |
| 22:57.55 | Gnarfoz | still too much to justify, considering I have other, actually useful programs running, too |
| 22:58.08 | End | hm, I'm connected to two different slack instances...wonder if that is part of why it balloons so much |
| 22:59.25 | Kaelten | heh slack is at 810MB for me |
| 23:04.00 | Stanzilla | I wonder if that problem is solvable |
| 23:04.07 | Stanzilla | that every app needs to ship it's own browser |
| 23:04.15 | Stanzilla | could be kinda like chrome custom tabs on android |
| 23:04.29 | Stanzilla | that they can hook into existing chrome installations and just spawn a window |
| 23:04.43 | Stanzilla | but things are too different for that, electron isn just chrome |
| 23:06.45 | End | and would need to consider that some stuff probably needs to be implemened natively depending on your use case, which may mean you need process isolation anyway |
| 23:07.29 | End | well, I guess chrome technically does that anyway, but I'm not sure how applicable it would be here |
| 23:07.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:07.52 | Stanzilla | it would have to inject stuff anyway for any custom stuff that is not in chrome |
| 23:07.56 | Stanzilla | so kinda impossible |
| 23:07.57 | End | yeah |
| 23:11.18 | Gnarfoz | <Stanzilla> that they can hook into existing chrome installations and just spawn a window <-- well, I could just open their fucking website, if all they're doing to turn it into an "app" is wrapping half a browser around it. |
| 23:12.06 | Gnarfoz | they should just be honest and say "we don't care/have the money/manpower/time to make a real desktop client" |
| 23:13.19 | Gnarfoz | on the other hand, considering that they ARE offering this thing, and their regular website has the same problem, maybe they should just fix the website |
| 23:13.53 | Gnarfoz | (maybe by closing it down, everyone needs a little education about what "cloud" really means, every once in a while) |
| 23:15.39 | Stanzilla | it's not just a website, it always has additional features when installed |
| 23:18.08 | Stanzilla | #s6prep https://goo.gl/photos/PHDNdPd3YTPg4bR46 |
| 23:18.39 | Megalon | why are you prepping your toilet |
| 23:24.19 | Gnarfoz | booster zero master race |
| 23:24.26 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, why on earth are you storing them there |
| 23:24.29 | Gnarfoz | and when is S6 |
| 23:25.12 | Stanzilla | friday |
| 23:25.12 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: which "more features" does the Slack app provide? besides "launch on startup and spawn 5 processes instead of 1"? |
| 23:25.18 | Stanzilla | that is not my toilet? |
| 23:25.18 | Gnarfoz | what time? |
| 23:25.29 | Stanzilla | 17 or 18 or so |
| 23:25.53 | Gnarfoz | it's not? potatovision might have misled us |
| 23:26.16 | Stanzilla | that is my kleiderschrank |
| 23:26.21 | Stanzilla | and some smaller schrank |
| 23:26.32 | Gnarfoz | (if I were you, I'd blame WhatsApp, but I think the picture quality was bad before it compressed the shit out of it) |
| 23:28.00 | End | only reason I use the slack app is for the system tray icon and to get both slack instances I connect to to be in one window without just being chrome tabs |
| 23:28.07 | Stanzilla | does it say that I exported it from WA somewhere? |
| 23:28.13 | End | not the most compelling reasons, I know |
| 23:28.20 | Stanzilla | oh file name I guess |
| 23:28.32 | Stanzilla | and yeah what End said but it was more a general statement, not really aimed at slack |
| 23:28.43 | Gnarfoz | End: the website doesn't support multiple slack things in one window? meh |
| 23:29.15 | End | well...I mean, I can have multiple tabs, but then I end up with other stuff in that window that is not slack |
| 23:29.41 | End | stuff like the curse app probably makes more sense, I don't know |
| 23:38.39 | Stanzilla | World Quests |
| 23:38.40 | Stanzilla | Quests |
| 23:38.40 | Stanzilla | 10,000 World Quests Completed (New) Complete 10,000 World Quests. 5 points. Account Wide. |
| 23:38.43 | Stanzilla | are you kidding me? |
| 23:39.08 | Zeldo | jesus |
| 23:39.22 | Megalon | so that's leveling +9980 dailies? |
| 23:39.36 | End | does that include already completed quests? I'm guessing not |
| 23:39.38 | nevcairiel | and people complained about not having things to do |
| 23:39.51 | nevcairiel | End: world quests are a new concept, so no |
| 23:39.54 | End | ah |
| 23:39.59 | End | what the heck is a world quest then |
| 23:40.01 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: they may be planning to keep the feature a while longer |
| 23:40.08 | Stanzilla | certainly sounds like it |
| 23:40.33 | nevcairiel | End: its a max level quest similar to daily quests in MoP, just different |
| 23:40.58 | nevcairiel | not actually daily for once but randomly assigned |
| 23:41.17 | Stanzilla | A Legendary Campaign (New) Complete 12 class order campaigns. Account Wide. |
| 23:41.17 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.19 | Stanzilla | hahahaha |
| 23:41.21 | Stanzilla | that's my jam |
| 23:41.28 | Stanzilla | alt army assemble |
| 23:42.03 | End | huh world quests even get their own section on the legion alpha forums |
| 23:42.30 | nevcairiel | because its a new feature, they want feedback |
| 23:42.52 | nevcairiel | hundreds of different quests that randomly pop up on your map f or you to do |
| 23:43.00 | nevcairiel | with varying rewards |
| 23:43.04 | End | weird |
| 23:43.10 | End | could be cool maybe I dunno |
| 23:43.44 | nevcairiel | sounds good to me so far |
| 23:43.54 | End | although thinking of stuff popping up on my map makes me think of an ubisoft game, which does not help it at all |
| 23:44.06 | End | tell me there won't be any tower climbing |
| 23:44.08 | End | just tell me that |
| 23:44.18 | nevcairiel | tower climbing sounds like fun |
| 23:44.55 | nevcairiel | i really like the druid orderhall loading screen http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2016/april/loadingscreen_druidorderhall_wide.jpg |
| 23:45.09 | End | could be, but ubisoft got into such a rut with some of their game design |
| 23:45.38 | Stanzilla | I'd never pay for an ubisoft game ever again |
| 23:45.57 | Megalon | Oklahoma court rules that forced oral sex is not rape if victim is unconscious from drinking |
| 23:46.09 | End | I played a little of the recent assassin's creed, but honestly, don't feel...what |
| 23:46.12 | End | what |
| 23:46.14 | nevcairiel | megalon moves to oklahoma? |
| 23:46.22 | Megalon | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 23:47.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah, he likes getting drunk |
| 23:49.33 | Megalon | that's why i always drive everybody home |
| 23:59.38 | Gnarfoz | beta forums shutting down? are they planning on ending beta early? oO |
| 23:59.54 | Gnarfoz | oh, maybe I should have clicked the link before assuming the worst from the slug. :D |
